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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the program. It is Texans Radio

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday, in advance of the Texans and the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts playing Sunday. Later on in the show. You're

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Speaker 1: not gonna want to miss this. Bill Davis linebackers coach

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Speaker 1: for your Texans, and he has a Zelig slash Forrest

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Speaker 1: Gump type history that intertwines with the history of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans in oh so many ways, coached with Dom

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Speaker 1: Capers and Pittsburgh and Carolina. So we'll have him on

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Speaker 1: in about thirty minutes or so.

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Speaker 2: What did you say before Forrest Gump?

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Speaker 1: Zelig? It's an old Woody Allen movie. It's a dated reference,

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Speaker 1: but it's John McLean knows the film anyway, I.

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Speaker 3: Know it, and there's probably ten people listening and know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I do sometimes a joke for the ten people,

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Speaker 1: So there's that, you know. Sometimes we love them. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got to give the arcane reference every once in

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Speaker 1: a while, just to please some people who feel like

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Speaker 1: they're in on the joke. Anyway, you heard the voice

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Speaker 1: the General John McClain joins us, and here we go

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Speaker 1: a huge battle with the Colts. This thing I think

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Speaker 1: is underrated out there. I feeling the buzz in the community.

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Speaker 1: I need to feel for this one. Yet, do you

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Speaker 1: think the fans, even the media, do you think they're

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Speaker 1: aware of what's at stake here? Maybe they are intellectually, John,

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Speaker 1: but this is a huge matchup as far as you know,

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Speaker 1: this time of year, this kind of matchup can be.

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Speaker 3: First of all, Bill Davis has done a terrific job

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Speaker 3: coaching these linebackers. Dimiko gets all the credit for coaching

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Speaker 3: the linebackers. He's not coaching linebackers. Davis is coaching him.

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Speaker 3: He calls the plays, and yes, Tomiko has been a

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Speaker 3: great linebackers coach. But everybody's saying, boy, Devin White, Dimiko

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Speaker 3: will well, you know what that starts with Bill Davis

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Speaker 3: and he's done great job. Sunday was a great example

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Speaker 3: of that. Jake Hansen played really well. I've seen some

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Speaker 3: people didn't think he did, but he was pro football focused,

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Speaker 3: second highest greatest player on the team to Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 3: And then I thought, you know, Neville Hewit's been a

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Speaker 3: starter for most of his career and him step in

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Speaker 3: making that big play right off the start. I thought

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Speaker 3: Hewitt played very well. Don't know if they're gonna get

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Speaker 3: Henry toatoa back. You know, Christian Harris looks like he's

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Speaker 3: going to be out a while. I really like the

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Speaker 3: Devin the White Wove because of what he's been able

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Speaker 3: to do early in his career, and if anybody can

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Speaker 3: get something out of him, it would be the Texan.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing how long he's been around. He's still only

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Speaker 3: twenty six. I am really fired up about this game

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Speaker 3: because you win, you got a three game lead over

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Speaker 3: the Colts, Titans of the Drags, Jaguars. You know, maybe

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Speaker 3: they'll get better the last five games. This is a

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Speaker 3: Kyle of milef posted tomorrow. The Colts have a really

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Speaker 3: easy schedule. Opponents right now are ten and twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Texans opponents right now are sixteen sixteen, and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: play Miami with two of back if he's healthy, if

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Speaker 3: he stays healthy, or the Jaguars. I mean, the Colts

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Speaker 3: didn't play Miami with two and they still barely beat him.

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Speaker 3: So this game, you can had a three game lead

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Speaker 3: in the division over the Colts because the tiebreaker, and

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Speaker 3: it's just so important. You go back to that first

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Speaker 3: game that block punt gave him a five yard touchdown drive,

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Speaker 3: a great run by Anthony richardson which he bullied the

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Speaker 3: defense into the end zone. But I think everybody there's

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Speaker 3: a lingering after effect with a bitter taste in your

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Speaker 3: mouth from the pass protection against the Packers. And as

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Speaker 3: bad as it was, he still lose with Phil Gold

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Speaker 3: with no time left. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of questions that came up in

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Speaker 3: that game. You know, Demico not challenging what could have

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Speaker 3: been a backward pass instead of a pass. Whether it

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Speaker 3: was or not, it's still deserved to be challenged. That

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Speaker 3: pass play to Tank dealt the end, Dell dropping the

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Speaker 3: touchdown pass. There were a lot of issues. He could

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Speaker 3: have won the game. So now they've got to sweep

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Speaker 3: the Colts. Colts have not lost there since twenty and nineteen.

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Speaker 3: And remember when it used to be whose home was

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Speaker 3: it went in? Who who was a receiver for the Colts?

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Speaker 3: It was y Hilton t y Elton always talked about

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Speaker 3: his second home. And now the Colts have done really

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Speaker 3: well here, so I think the Texans are gonna win.

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Speaker 3: I want to see the pass protection improved dramatically. Can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see Joe Mixon. You know they're gonna do

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Speaker 3: everything they can to contain Mix. And they gave up

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty eight yards rushing Sunday to Miami. And they

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Speaker 3: did a great job against Jonathan Taylor in the first game.

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Speaker 3: Got to do it again. There's just so many storylines

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Speaker 3: in this game that is so important today of the

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Speaker 3: already played that have winning records. They beat the Colts,

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Speaker 3: that beat the Bills, they lost to the Packers, and

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Speaker 3: out to be tough for early then we thought it was,

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Speaker 3: but they got the beat in the air. Everybody's gonna

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Speaker 3: push the panic button, the fans, among the fans and media.

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Speaker 4: All right, General Anthony Richardson running, Anthony Richardson launching bombs,

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Speaker 4: or the Texans past protection. Which of those three is

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Speaker 4: the most important aspect of this game against the Colts.

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Speaker 3: The pass protection goes if you protect Strout and he

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Speaker 3: was sacked four times in the first game, still through

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Speaker 3: two touchdown passes, and that one hundred and fifteen rating

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Speaker 3: Digs caught both of them. Nico had six catches for

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Speaker 3: one hundred and fifteen yards, So if you can protect him,

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Speaker 3: you can control the ball. They controlled it for forty

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Speaker 3: minutes in the first game, they had what four hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifteen yards colts. If you take away those three

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Speaker 3: They totally shut down Jonathan Taylor. So if they can

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Speaker 3: if they can protect him, they can control the ball again,

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Speaker 3: opens up their whole office, gives them balance. Of course,

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Speaker 3: the others are important. I'd be willing to bet right

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Speaker 3: now the coach don't have three pass plays of at

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Speaker 3: least fifty four yards, including two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: John McClain with us, all right, general, correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: I feel like some.

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Speaker 1: Of the critics out there, and it's fine to criticize

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Speaker 1: lack of pass protection. I get it because it was

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Speaker 1: not where it needs to be on Sunday. But you've

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Speaker 1: lived through a lot of NFL seasons, and I think

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Speaker 1: there's too much of a feeling of week in week out.

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Speaker 1: The team should perform exactly the same almost just be

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Speaker 1: thoroughly great in all these different areas. And even if

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Speaker 1: they win without that, well, that could be a problem.

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Speaker 1: And we need to cite that Maybe it's just me,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm overly sensitive. What are your thoughts, because I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling a lot of heat out there on the five

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Speaker 1: I know this is a monumental game coming up, but

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Speaker 3: Well, when you think about this one Sunday, if they'd

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Speaker 3: done just like one more thing right, they'd be six

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Speaker 3: And because afterwards, when you lose a game like that,

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Speaker 3: you just crushed. But I think there are so many

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Speaker 3: a lot of weekly talk shows in different cities, and

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Speaker 3: almost all of them are asked me, well, what's wrong

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Speaker 3: with Strout? And I said, okay, through for eighty six yards,

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Speaker 3: But I don't I try to be kind, I said,

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Speaker 3: but he had the worst pass protection I've seen since

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Speaker 3: I've been covering this team. And it wasn't because they

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Speaker 3: got beat physically. You know, I went back and watched it.

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Speaker 3: You don't see Packers just physically banging on them and

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Speaker 3: knocking them down. They confused them so much, and it

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Speaker 3: been prepared? And what about adjustments? Going back and watching

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Speaker 3: it in slow motion over and over, and you wonder

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Speaker 3: why did they make some of the decisions. They do

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Speaker 3: And then Dalton Schultz he didn't have a good game

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Speaker 3: blocking either, and I don't think Joe Mixon did. But

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Speaker 3: they you know, they worked on it a lot. And

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Speaker 3: I try to tell people, Okay, Stroud doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: same stats he's making missing Nico'collins. Defenses are playing them

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Speaker 3: they haven't adjusted. That's up to Bobby Slowick. One of

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Speaker 3: the things I'd like to see more of is him

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Speaker 3: taking three step drops. Ball comes out and don't drop back.

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Speaker 3: And when you see a I can't remember who pointed

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Speaker 3: who it was, said, when you have no it's Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 3: He said, when you have a guy blitzing. You got

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Speaker 3: to have a hot receiver and quarterback's got to adjust

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Speaker 3: same play where you're maybe taking a five step drop.

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Speaker 3: You have to be able to change it. And he

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Speaker 3: happened to them a couple of times. Stroud's got to

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Speaker 3: made all these adjustments. Stroud said yesterday he wanted to

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Speaker 3: time he did that last year was after the Carolina loss.

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Speaker 3: They said, I want to throw the ball down and

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Speaker 3: And so I'm kind of expecting that that slowick will

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Speaker 3: We'll see some different we'll see a different type game

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Speaker 3: plan involved in passing game on.

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Speaker 1: The other side of the ball. General.

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Speaker 4: The Texans went out and signed Devin White this week.

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Speaker 4: What did you make of the signing of Devin White,

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Speaker 4: linebacker formerly of Tampa Bay where he's a pro bowler.

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Speaker 4: It was with Philly and training camp didn't work there.

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Speaker 4: What do you think of Devin White being sided?

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Speaker 3: His second year he had I think it was eight

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Speaker 3: or nine sacks. That's amazing at one hundred and forty tackles.

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Speaker 3: And I know he had contract issues near the end.

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Speaker 3: He was mad they wouldn't extend him, and so he

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Speaker 3: goes to phil and he can't get on the field.

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Speaker 3: Brooks Cabina used to work with me at the Chronicles

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Speaker 3: covered Eagles last two years for the Athletic. He was

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Speaker 3: on the Landrew Locker and Cody Stewts, and he went

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Speaker 3: over everything about White, says a good guy. Everybody likes him,

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Speaker 3: but he just couldn't get on the field because the

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Speaker 3: And so I don't think for a minute he's going

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Speaker 3: to step in and play right away. Why would they

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Speaker 3: unless something happened to Neville Hewitt and Jake Hanson. I

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Speaker 3: think next week maybe. And they're playing two linebackers all

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Speaker 3: the time. I see a lot of people saying, well,

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Speaker 3: they need to play three linebackers again. Teams won't run

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Speaker 3: did a great job in the running game Sunday, and

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Speaker 3: One of the things Baltimore's got a chance to do

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Speaker 3: I am blown away. And how great the NFC North is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Well, speaking of the NFC North, the

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Speaker 1: They're going through an NFC buzzsaw right now, because they

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Speaker 3: You know, the Texans, when you get to the end

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Speaker 3: The old Aggie comes back to his home state, Dan Campbell.

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Speaker 3: That's going to be exciting. But the Texans have to

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Speaker 3: That's why they got to win this game. They got

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Speaker 4: General Vikings at Rams tonight. There's been a lot of

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Speaker 3: Now, they redid last off season Matthew Stafford's contract, so

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Speaker 1: All right? So the Jets are up next for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: Coaches and players can't look ahead, but we can. It's

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Speaker 3: Couldn't be any worse than last season, which was the

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Speaker 1: Okay, Cowboys at forty nine Ers Sunday night. There's a

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Speaker 1: Both teams man the morning talk shows every day it's

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Speaker 3: Two games ago they won in Pittsburgh. The Cowboys did,

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Speaker 4: Well, we know one quarterback got close to sixty million

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Speaker 3: They've lost too often. They have serious injuries in their

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Speaker 3: Can't cut him this offseason. It'd be one hundred and

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Speaker 3: But I think he's gone, and I if he's one

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Speaker 3: the money. And I've read several deep dives on Watson

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Speaker 3: because I'm still fascinated by what's happened to him since

431
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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty season, and I'll bet you his read

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Speaker 3: he will be relieved that he doesn't have to go

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Speaker 3: through anymore when they boot him. When he came on

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Speaker 3: the field boot him when he got hurt. Chanted you

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Speaker 3: deserve it, you deserve it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty reading.

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Speaker 3: When he left the field, that was I've never seen

438
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Speaker 3: anything like it. And then for Miles Garrett talk about

439
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Speaker 3: him being a model citizen. That wasn't a good luck

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Speaker 3: for the Aggie.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me this general about the schedule. Seventeen games,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go to eighteen at some point. Why don't

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Speaker 1: they just do double buys and add the extra week so

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Speaker 1: you have another week of nationally televised games. You'll have

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Speaker 1: seventeen games. Still, you don't have to add that extra game,

446
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Speaker 1: and you can have your longer season to get the

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Speaker 1: national TV revenue driven up. Thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what they'll do. That's what the player

449
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Speaker 3: will insist on. And you could play the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: in April if you wanted, you could play it on

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Speaker 3: the first Sunday of the baseball But if you want it.

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Speaker 1: I thought, not add the extra game, Just go to

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Speaker 1: double buys and now you had an extra week to

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Speaker 1: the season and stay.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're gonna have eighteen games and then you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have double buys and you can play the Super ball

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Speaker 3: whenever you want. When the city has the Super Bowl,

458
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Speaker 3: they have to keep everything open in February in case

459
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Speaker 3: there's some kind of catastrophes. All the hotel rooms, everything

460
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Speaker 3: has to be available. So that's where we're headed. And

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Speaker 3: I think that'd be good for the players. And I

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Speaker 3: see it. Derrick Henry's on a pace to break the

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Speaker 3: all time rushing record. Well he's got an extra game

464
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Speaker 3: to do it. So it's skewers of stats. But you know,

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Speaker 3: that's what it's been historically, and the players will make

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Speaker 3: more money out of it, probably probably get more time

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Speaker 3: off in the off season when they play paddy Cake basically,

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Speaker 3: and more power to them.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: For the league to do that, the players have to

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Speaker 3: be on board. A lot of players don't like it.

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Speaker 3: When you see how many guys get injured all the time.

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Speaker 3: They should expand rosters. They should let you have fifty

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Speaker 3: three not forty five available. They should let you have

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Speaker 3: everybody available on game days. They have to get away

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Speaker 3: from the way they treat Grant game days and Ross

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Speaker 3: and I r when they got eighteen games.

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Speaker 1: I feel like with the elevations they are much better

479
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Speaker 1: shape though, and they get what Johnny two elevations, perfect three,

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Speaker 1: three from the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Squad.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot better than it ever was. But I

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Speaker 1: hear you and I.

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Speaker 3: Think they have a seventeen not eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well eighteen would be another deal. It's any another

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 3: Five I need to give them. How many is it

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Speaker 3: coming from O R right now? You can?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot. It's a lot. I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Texans aren't even close. Last I checked to UH.

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Speaker 3: They'll need more. And I think when you put guys

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Speaker 3: on our start of this season, you put them on

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Speaker 3: in training camp. They're not part of the roster. If

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Speaker 3: case keenum that they need him, and this is the

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Speaker 3: way it used to be forever. You can put them

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Speaker 3: on our anytime. People stash players on there. Well, the

497
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Speaker 3: unions like that because that means more guys are getting

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Speaker 3: played paid.

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Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, general, what do you have on Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: dot com for us?

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Speaker 3: I'm I have a column on Joe Mixon that's on

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Speaker 3: there this week. I have a cot him I'm working on.

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Speaker 3: He posted tonight and tomorrow about lessons learned in the

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Speaker 3: first game at Lucasol Stadium, about the deep balls, and

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Speaker 3: about shutting down Jonathan Taylor, which they did, and then

506
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Speaker 3: of course making sure that they stop Anthony Richardson running

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Speaker 3: the football.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good. Thanks a lot, John, Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 2: Coming out.

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Speaker 1: Bill Davis linebackers coach for your Texans. Super interesting guy.

511
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Speaker 1: He's been around the block. His dad coached in the league.

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Speaker 1: This is going to be a fun visit. Check it out,

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned. It's Texans Radio. Jumping right back into the

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Speaker 1: Hyundai Texans Radio studio. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with

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Speaker 1: you and Bill Davis, coaches linebackers for the Texans. Johnny

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Speaker 1: and I had a chance to catch up with him

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Speaker 1: right after practice and his enthusiasm is palpable.

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Speaker 5: Just came off the practice field excited about how the

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Speaker 5: guys are working.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the guys are working hard, and you can

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Speaker 1: tell the depth is there because last week couple of

522
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Speaker 1: guys pressed into with Jake Hanson Neville Hewett. They played

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Speaker 1: pretty well. For you. Injuries press certain guys up to

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Speaker 1: the starting line up them they do well.

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Speaker 5: I was really proud of the group they've been working.

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Speaker 5: It starts in the off season in training camp. It

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Speaker 5: really does. That's where when you get your opportunity that

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Speaker 5: you fail to succeed. It starts way back there, and

529
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Speaker 5: we talk about it back there. So the way the

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Speaker 5: work that never puts in, the work that Jake puts in,

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Speaker 5: there was no surprise to anybody in the building that

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Speaker 5: they were going to perform at a high level because

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Speaker 5: that's how they practice every day.

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Speaker 4: Coach, when Devin White comes in, whether this really isn't

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Speaker 4: about Devin so much as it is just a new

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Speaker 4: player coming in in the middle of the season. Because

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Speaker 4: you've been around the NFL for a long time, I

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Speaker 4: knew the goal is probably, hey, let's get this guy

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Speaker 4: on the field as soon as possible. But how do

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Speaker 4: you kind of go about that process of getting a

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Speaker 4: guy up to speed with something new, like learning this

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Speaker 4: particular defense.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that factor in.

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Speaker 5: For instance, disease came to us, but it had been

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Speaker 5: in San Francisco's the system before, so the words instantly

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Speaker 5: turned to he knew exactly what they meant. Devon is

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Speaker 5: not so Devon's coming from two different systems that we run.

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Speaker 5: So now there's a lot of all right, here's what

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Speaker 5: we call this hook curl buzz cover three, cover four

550
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Speaker 5: and here's what you called it, and we just have

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Speaker 5: to It's like teaching somebody to speak Spanish from German

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Speaker 5: or England. You know you've got the same meanings, but

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Speaker 5: you've got to figure out the words that apply. And

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Speaker 5: then you dive down a little bit deeper into specific

555
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Speaker 5: techniques and we call them tools or adjustments that we

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Speaker 5: make when an offense is attacking our cover three in

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Speaker 5: a certain way where we have a couple of tools

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Speaker 5: to beat how they're attacking us. Well, he's got to

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Speaker 5: learn not only are cover three, but the tools that

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Speaker 5: live within that cover three. And that's where the deeper

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Speaker 5: dive takes longer to really trust that he can help

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Speaker 5: you win the game and not hurt you, because he

563
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Speaker 5: just is in a situation he hasn't covered yet. We

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Speaker 5: have all these OTA's, all the training camp, all these practices.

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Speaker 5: These guys stack and they've gone through all those problems

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Speaker 5: and they can say, oh, yeah, I remember in spring

567
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Speaker 5: when that happened, I remember in preseason. Devin doesn't have

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Speaker 5: any of that. So we just have to take him

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Speaker 5: at the pace it'll go. We'll start in small packages

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Speaker 5: that are real familiar to him, and then.

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Speaker 3: And We'll grow is needed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every situation is different. Guess sure, Bill Davis with

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Speaker 1: US linebackers coach for the Texans, You've been a defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: You've coached linebackers for a long time though in this league.

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Speaker 1: What about the evolution of the linebacker in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We've done shows with with Ted Johnson, we had Brian

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Speaker 1: Cushing on this team, those guys a little bigger. Seems

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Speaker 1: like the sizes are changing. What do you think, overall, coaches,

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Speaker 1: the way the linebacker position has evolved.

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Speaker 5: So basically, what happens if you look at it through

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Speaker 5: this real simple leends that the more big people the

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Speaker 5: offense has on the field, the more big people we

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Speaker 5: put on defensively, the more smaller fast people, the more

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Speaker 5: smaller fast defensive players we play. And what's happened over time.

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Speaker 5: And I've been in three decades now and even longer.

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Speaker 5: When I was a kid and a ball boy, there

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Speaker 5: was always the big players. When I say big, there

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Speaker 5: was multiple tight endsets. There was always a fullback in

589
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Speaker 5: everybody's offense. So everything was big, and our linebackers were

590
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Speaker 5: two fifty two to fifty five.

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Speaker 1: That's what we looked for.

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Speaker 5: Could you stop the run first, and over time the

593
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Speaker 5: offenses have morphed into more pass heavy and in order

594
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Speaker 5: to be better in their past, they get smaller, faster,

595
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Speaker 5: quicker guys. So what we've done with the linebackers, especially

596
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Speaker 5: the inside, is now what used to be a two

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Speaker 5: forty five, that's just that's what the weight and the

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Speaker 5: size six 'y three doesn't necessarily run real fast, but

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Speaker 5: can stop the run. That is no longer what we're

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Speaker 5: looking for now it's gone smaller and smaller.

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Speaker 1: Faster, quicker. The first thing I look for is can

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Speaker 1: he run and cover?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: Because seventy percent of what he has to do is

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Speaker 5: coverage and thirty percent stop the run.

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Speaker 1: So where at that place?

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Speaker 5: So we have to evolve. What was a safety when

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Speaker 5: I first started in the league is now a linebacker?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So could Jamiico Ryans be an all era linebacker? Could

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Speaker 1: he play in any era?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Okay, good answer.

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Speaker 5: And I don't only say that because he's the boss

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Speaker 5: saying that because of who Damiico is, and he's right

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Speaker 5: at the end between he is big enough to handle

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Speaker 5: the run and stop the run. He's athletic and fast

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Speaker 5: enough to cover. You put him in coverage like they

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Speaker 5: can't go Christian McCaffrey coverage. That's that's a rare coverage anyway.

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Speaker 5: Even you put a safety on a kid like that,

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Speaker 5: now you're okay, our safety is going to have trouble.

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Speaker 5: So there's different variations of who that running back is

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Speaker 5: week the week, who the tight end is, and you

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Speaker 5: find your matchup linebacker wise to the one that we

625
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Speaker 5: match up with better.

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Speaker 1: Well, you attempted to suit him up last week.

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Speaker 4: With But it's an interesting discussion about all that because

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Speaker 4: we've watched that evolution. But then here come the Colts

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Speaker 4: on Sunday and they've got a six foot five two

630
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Speaker 4: and forty five pounds pseudo running back playing quarterback. They've

631
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Speaker 4: got Jonathan Taylor, they've got a big old offensive line,

632
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Speaker 4: and it feels like when it gets nut cut in time,

633
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Speaker 4: one of those guys is going to carry the football

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Speaker 4: and the run game becomes that much more important to stop, seemingly,

635
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Speaker 4: but then he throws the.

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Speaker 2: Ball over our heads. He's a very complicated guy to

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Speaker 2: have to face.

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Speaker 4: How difficult does a challenge like Anthony Richardson provide for

639
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Speaker 4: your linebackers?

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Speaker 5: Oh, this offense gives us a big challenge. It's first

641
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 5: and second, the running game is what they base their

642
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 5: offense on. So we have to the linebacker. World has

643
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: tackled a man with the ball, break it down. It's

644
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 5: a simple that's your job description. Guy with the ball

645
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Speaker 5: has got to be tackled. Who do they Their offense

646
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Speaker 5: gives the ball to the running back more than other

647
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Speaker 5: offenses do. Some offenses throw downfield, some hand the ball

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Speaker 5: to the running back. We've got to stop their running game.

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Speaker 5: Then you put in the factor as linebackers, the vertical

650
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Speaker 5: pass is really not in our area of responsibility. We

651
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 5: have the underneath stuff, we've got pass rush, but we

652
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: don't have vertical routes very often. So it's stopping the

653
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 5: run for us. And then you take a quarterback of

654
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Speaker 5: Richardson's talent, and he's got a big man that can

655
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Speaker 5: run and he can throw it. You can make every

656
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Speaker 5: throw in the field. So the quarterback, though, and I've

657
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 5: been through a lot of running quarterback in my career,

658
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 5: they're still not running backs. Although they're talented whenever they're

659
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: scrambling or it's a design run, they're not like a

660
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 5: talented running back. So you got to put a body

661
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 5: on them and tackle them. Now they can slide and

662
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 5: they have all that element of escapism and I understand why.

663
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Speaker 5: But we have to stop the running back run game

664
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Speaker 5: and then just contain in the passing game or the

665
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: quarterback designed runs or have to be stopped.

666
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Speaker 1: All right, Bill Davis with US linebackers coach for the Texans.

667
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Speaker 1: Are you mentioned you have some history in this league coach,

668
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Speaker 1: and I have a lot of places I can go here,

669
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Speaker 1: but I want to start here. You're with Dom Capers

670
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Speaker 1: in Carolina, the very first head coach in Texans history,

671
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Speaker 1: and you're with him in Carolina. Had some success with them,

672
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: you were coaching linebackers and Kevin Green and Lamar Lathan

673
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: finished one and two in sacks. That's incredible stuff. But

674
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Speaker 1: what was it like being with Dom and Carolina?

675
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Speaker 5: So I started in Pittsburgh with Dom yep So when

676
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: my first broke in the league, it was Pittsburgh steel As.

677
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: He was a coordinator, went on to be the head

678
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Speaker 5: coach of the expansion Panthers and I was just outside

679
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 5: linebacker coach. Vic Fan Andrew was our coordinator. So I've

680
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: really been blessed with the coaches that I've been able

681
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 5: to be around, and Dom Capers is an absolute mentor

682
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 5: of mine. He has been there for me the whole career.

683
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 5: I've learned most of my defensive ball from Dom. My

684
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 5: first seven years were with Dom. He's outstanding human being.

685
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 5: Him and Karen are two of my favorite people on

686
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Speaker 5: planet Earth. But when we were in Carolina and we

687
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 5: took that expansion, I've been with two expansion teams, Carolina

688
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 5: and the Browns and the Frost expansion team. They gave

689
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 5: the league, gave us and Jacksonville everything. It wasn't fair

690
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 5: to the rest of the league. We thought of one

691
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: would be fair to us. We were loaded in free agency,

692
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 5: we had an unlimited checkbook, and we had two picks

693
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 5: in every round the week we both went to the

694
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 5: championship games after year two, so it was a real

695
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: quick ascent. Then later on I was in Cleveland for

696
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 5: the expansion and they took all of those away from us,

697
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 5: right so it was a little bit different animal. But

698
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 5: with Dom and Bill Polian, those guys put together a

699
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 5: heck of a team and it was fun to the

700
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Speaker 5: Probably one of the biggest accomplishments of my career as

701
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 5: a coach was having Lamar Lath and Kevin Green finished

702
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 5: first and second in the NFL in sacks, and they

703
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 5: were starters in the Pro Bowl, and it was a

704
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 5: year that was a lot of fun. But those players

705
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 5: were really committed. Like this group I have now is

706
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 5: how hard do they work? In practice? Tells you what

707
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 5: kind of players you have. And they don't all work

708
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: the same. But those guys back when we were one

709
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 5: and two work They earned what they You get what

710
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 5: you earn, and they earned those that first and second coach.

711
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Speaker 4: You mentioned it earlier about being a ball boy when

712
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: you were growing up, so you've been around this thing

713
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: for a real long time. Thinking back to when you

714
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 4: were a kid and you were doing that, did you

715
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 4: ever think it would materialize into this? Was that kind

716
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 4: of the impetus for Oh, yeah, I'm gonna be in

717
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: the NFL, I'm going to be a coach, this is

718
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 4: what I'm gonna do. How did that experience as being

719
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 4: a ball boy kind of project forward into what you

720
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Speaker 4: do now?

721
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: I was so blessed my upbringer.

722
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Speaker 5: My father's first job was with the Philadelphi Eagles in

723
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy six. Would Dick for Meal Wow and Vince Popala.

724
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 5: Actually the whole invincible. It was all right then when

725
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 5: we were there and I was a ball boy, so

726
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 5: I was in a locker room and experience all at

727
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 5: Ron Jaworski and those guys coach for meal, watching him

728
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 5: coach and the grind he put the players through. And

729
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 5: then I was also able to go to the Miami

730
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 5: Dolphins when my dad was with Don Shula. So I'm

731
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: now a ballboy with Don Shula. We're ball boys. And

732
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 5: here the ball boys are are Jerry Sandusky, who's radio

733
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: for Baltimore now, David Schula, Mike Shula, Orangebarger's son David.

734
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: We had Henning.

735
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 5: We just had a great group of guys and we

736
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 5: were watching coach Shula coach every day. And you're watching

737
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: him coach on game Den were Monday Night football. I'm

738
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: the guy with a red ex and I'm the kid

739
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 5: throwing the ball. Listen, coach Shula coach. So from early

740
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: on it was so much fun to be around those

741
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 5: guys and in the locker room. The first goal was

742
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: I was going to be a player. I was going

743
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,760
Speaker 5: to be the Hall of Fame and Joe mont Danas

744
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 5: I was going to be That didn't work out, like

745
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 5: I didn't work out for a lot of people.

746
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: And then there was no There was no question I

747
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: was going in any coach.

748
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: There was no doubt. And we're blessed for it because

749
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: you're the linebacker's coach of the Texans. Coach, thanks a

750
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: lot for joining us, good luck, thanks for having me.

751
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: Guys appreciate it, all right, Johnny, the Bill Davis visit

752
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: is legendary now and it's only been a few minutes,

753
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: but it's already legendary in my mind because I love

754
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: all the touch points throughout Texans history that he has.

755
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it really is incredible to see where he's

756
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: been and how it relates to the Are you ready

757
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: for a couple of these here? We already talked about

758
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: Dom Caper's being with Dom and Pittsburgh and Caroline and

759
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: all the people like Vic Fangio associated with that. All right.

760
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: He was with the Browns in nineteen ninety nine, their

761
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: expansion year when they came back into the league. Who

762
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator? No, who's the head coach? Chris Palmer.

763
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: Chris Palmer, first offensive coordinator in Texans history. He was

764
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: with the Falcons when Matt shab got drafted in three

765
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: all right, so he was with them. Then he was

766
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers as the defensive coordination during

767
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: the Reggie Bush Bowl, the season finale of five. Had

768
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: the Texans won that game, they don't have the number

769
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft. But they lost in overtime

770
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to the forty nine Ers, Bill Davis was the defensive coordinator.

771
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: But wow, there's more. It's an infomercial. It's Bill Davis. Sure,

772
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: linebackers coach for your Texans. He was also the defensive

773
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals in nine when Andre Johnson

774
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: had his iconic some people call it his best play

775
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: ever catch the ball, boom boo boom, knock over three

776
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: guys on his way to the end zone. Bill Davis

777
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for that team that day. Pretty cool. Huh. Wow,

778
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: linebackers coach for the Browns and eleven. Now he's coaching

779
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: linebackers and Cushing had the bloody face episode against an

780
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: offensive player. But still he was on the Browns during

781
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: that time. Oh, he's with the Eagles as the defensive

782
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: coordinator in twenty fourteen, And that was was that Ryan

783
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick against the Eagles.

784
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: That's right, And who was his starting middle linebacker until

785
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: he got hurt in that kid Demiko Ryan, thank you

786
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: very much.

787
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: So he coached Demiko Ryans in Philly and Demico got

788
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: hurt in that game. I'm just describing to you, and

789
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: that's pretty much where it ends. You would think, oh, yeah,

790
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: you ended up with the forty nine ers. No, he didn't.

791
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: He went to Ohio State the back with the Cardinals. Oh,

792
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 1: he was with the Cardinals as linebackers coach when the

793
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: Texans went there in twenty one and got their doors

794
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: blown off by JJ Watt DeAndre Hopkins, who.

795
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: Was the d line coach for that Cardinals team who

796
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: won Matt Burke.

797
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: That's wow. Here we go. So there's a lot of

798
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ground here. Yeah, a lot of connections

799
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: of Bill Davis now with the Texans. But that's kind

800
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: of fun.

801
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, when we asked him about being a ball boy eight,

802
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 4: you know, I grew up his coach's kid and his

803
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: dad was a tremendous.

804
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: Executive in the NFL. He coached the NFL for a while.

805
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: He was also the vice president of the player person

806
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: out with the Browns for a while, so he did

807
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: a little bit of everything you talk about being a

808
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: ball boy, and he said it was a ball boy

809
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: for a Dick Vermial. When you mentioned that seventy sixth

810
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 4: season in Philadelphia, I'm like, oh my god, that's incredible.

811
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Speaker 4: All the different names, and then down in Miami with

812
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Speaker 4: all different names he was with.

813
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Speaker 6: So it.

814
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Speaker 4: In some sense, when you've spent all that time, you

815
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 4: feel like, oh, well, you were destined to be a

816
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 4: coach at some point.

817
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Right.

818
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: There's some people that get into that and they're like,

819
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 4: you know what, I think I want to try something different, right,

820
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: you know, I think I'm gonna try something different.

821
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Speaker 1: But David tried something different.

822
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: That's right.

823
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 4: But and I think when you look at coach Davis's resume,

824
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: it's it hits everything. He's never been anywhere for longer

825
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: than Like, as I'm looking at this, I think Michigan

826
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: State a year, Pittsburgh three years, Carolina Panthers four years,

827
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Speaker 4: Browns a year, Packers a year, Falcons three years, Giants

828
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: a year, San Francisco two years, Cardinals two years, Cardinal Well, Cardinals,

829
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Speaker 4: he was there for a little bit longer. He just

830
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Speaker 4: changed roles in the defense coordinator of the year after

831
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Speaker 4: they went the Super Bowl. You know, Brown's two years Eagles,

832
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Speaker 4: three High State, two Cardinals. He was there for four

833
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: as long ast he'd been anywhere. So he's done a

834
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: good job with these linebackers. There's no question that this

835
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 4: group to be able to disease and Henry, you know,

836
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 4: obviously he's is coming from the Titans. Henry did not

837
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 4: start for them last year. Those two have played very well,

838
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden they get hurt. Okay shuffle out,

839
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 4: bringing Neville Hewett and Jake Hansen, and those guys play

840
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: very very well. And when he was talking about the linebackers,

841
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: I don't know about you, Mark, but I felt like

842
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: there was a lot of pride in how that group

843
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: played Sunday against the Packers. Like you could just tell

844
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 4: he was pretty proud of the way they played. Now,

845
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 4: as a coach, you never to truly satisfied one hundred percent,

846
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 4: but well, especially without the dub, right, but you can.

847
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: Feel very proud about how you guys played. And I

848
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 2: felt like that was definitely definitely a case.

849
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: And I think that's that's one of the things the

850
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 4: General pointed out too, Like there are been some people saying, oh,

851
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: Jake Hanson, he didn't get it done. That's why they

852
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: got Devin White like Jake Hansen was was tremendous. I

853
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 4: mean he had the second highest grade on PFF. Now

854
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 4: you know how I feel about PFF. I said every

855
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: time I couch you with that. But he played pretty well.

856
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: My eyes told me he played pretty well in the

857
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: PFF grade just backed that up. So it's like, if

858
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: people are saying those linebackers didn't play well, then they're just.

859
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: Searching for crown they lost there, searching for junk. Come on,

860
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: they you got takeaways kept you in the game. We

861
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: all know this one. I hate to say it's on

862
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: the offense, but it's kind of on the offense. The

863
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: offense knows that off they gotta put up more points

864
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Speaker 1: on the road in that situation when they get all

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Speaker 1: those takeaways. Jay said that, CJ said, this one's on us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they got to be able to put up

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Speaker 1: more than twenty two points. You get those great field

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Speaker 1: position situations. Got to be able to capitalize more, that's right,

869
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Speaker 1: especially opening possession. Man, you stick that in the end zone.

870
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Speaker 1: You know how many times do you see that. You

871
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Speaker 1: get a great situation, but you don't get the touchdown.

872
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: You get the three and it haunts you for the

873
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: rest of the game, and it clearly did. But well,

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00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: look that's over. Green Bay. Pretty good team, no question

875
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: about that. Minnesota good team, no question about that. You're

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Speaker 1: back in the Vision this week with the Indianapolis Colts,

877
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Speaker 1: and I'm feeling it. I talked about it with the General.

878
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: You talked about it with the general. I feel like

879
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: there's not enough buzz yet with this one, and there

880
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: needs to be. I think by the time the ball

881
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Speaker 1: is kicked, it'll be there. But I gotta feel it.

882
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to be out there by the radio

883
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Speaker 1: stage on Sunday morning with Sean Pendergast and Seth Payne

884
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: and them talking about not feeling it today the way

885
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: you think you would.

886
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: I need to feel it.

887
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: I think the players need to feel it. You got

888
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: to get here early, be loud, and do your thing.

889
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

890
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 4: And if you think about how last year's game against

891
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: them went, they came out went bang bang, fourteen to nothing. Yeah, Like,

892
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 4: if you if you have that slow start, you're gonna

893
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: up being five and three, having lost a second in

894
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: a row. And if there's anything that we wanted this

895
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Speaker 4: team to do this year, amongst many things at home.

896
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: We dominate at home, we win games, we don't lose

897
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: games at home anymore. And the last one you lost

898
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: at home, if i'm I think I'm right about this,

899
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: the Cleveland rounds. Yeahlast time you lost at home under

900
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 4: Dimica Rudzon, last time you lost a home. But also

901
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 4: you haven't lost much at home. But the one you

902
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Speaker 4: did lose was week two because Anthony Richardson came out

903
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Speaker 4: in Lanta haymakers early before he went and sat on

904
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Speaker 4: a bench because he was injured. So you can't allow

905
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Speaker 4: that to happen. No haymakers from Richardson this week. That

906
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: should be in my Keys to the Game. I didn't

907
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Speaker 4: put it in there. In so many words. What I

908
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: said about Anthony Richardson was is he doctor Richardson or

909
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: mister Anthony like jacky ol Hyde sort of thing, because.

910
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Speaker 2: That's really what he that's really what he is.

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Speaker 1: To see, jacky in Hyde is not so much a

912
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Speaker 1: dated reference because it's such an iconic thing. It's right,

913
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Speaker 1: it's historic, historic, So I like that, all right, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, it's the injury report. We'll have it

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Speaker 1: for you along with a Houston Methodist minutes segment. It's

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Speaker 1: all coming up here on Texan's All Access. All right,

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Speaker 1: we ran along with the other segments, so this is

918
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Speaker 1: a super quick one, but it's filled with information. So

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Speaker 1: bear with me as we do this, and don't forget.

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow we have a three hour block of Texans Radio

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Speaker 1: with Tamiko Ryans and a whole lot of other good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Injury report. Did not participate again as he's Al Shire

923
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Speaker 1: or Jimmy Ward. D'Angelo ross out with an illness today,

924
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Speaker 1: but Kamari Lassiter is back, so that's good news. Henry

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Speaker 1: Toatoa did not practice concussion now. He did participate on

926
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Speaker 1: a limited basis yesterday. Don't know if that's a setback.

927
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Speaker 1: We'll find out more tomorrow. Limited. Titus Howard with a knee.

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Speaker 1: That one is worth watching. He popped up on the

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Speaker 1: injury report with the knee and you're just wondering what

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Speaker 1: does that mean. So let's not panic. Find out more

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Speaker 1: tomorrow when the game status comes out. And Robert Woods

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Speaker 1: limited with a foot. Great to see Robert out there,

933
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Speaker 1: so he's on the way back and that would be

934
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Speaker 1: a big boost with Nicocollins still on IR so let's

935
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Speaker 1: hope for the very best now, Houston Methodist minutes. Here's

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Speaker 1: a quickie knee surgery. Some great technological advancements in recent years,

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Speaker 1: and I talked to doctor Taylor brid Out of Houston

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Speaker 1: Methodist bout them.

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Speaker 6: Surgery remains a primary treatment for patients and players with

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Speaker 6: ACL injuries. We still use autographed ten in, which is

941
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Speaker 6: a portion of the patulla tenon, but now we're becoming

942
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Speaker 6: more and more popular with a quadricep ten in as

943
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Speaker 6: well because we've seen good results with that in high

944
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Speaker 6: level athletes as well. And then one of the most

945
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Speaker 6: exciting things that the research that Houston Methodists has shown

946
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Speaker 6: is blood flow restriction therapy, where we limit the blood

947
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Speaker 6: flow to the patient's limb after surgery in an effort

948
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Speaker 6: to help the recovery of muscle function and strength far

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Speaker 6: faster than traditional physical era.

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Speaker 1: Interesting stuff from doctor Taylor Brown. Houston met that is

951
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Speaker 1: the official healthcare provider of the Houston Texans. Houston meth

952
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Speaker 1: that is the leading medicine. All right, that's going to

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Speaker 1: do it for the show tonight Thursday Night Football Rams

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Speaker 1: and Vikings. The Texans will actually visit the Rams next year,

955
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Speaker 1: and I think the Chargers too. Man next year's schedule

956
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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that right now, but

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Speaker 1: next year's schedule is wild, lot of West coast travel.

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Speaker 1: This year's schedule East coast, the NFC North. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're in progress right now. Tomorrow full three hour block

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Speaker 1: of the show. Have a great night, Go Texans.