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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Memorial Day behind us, MK, in front of us.

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Speaker 1: What is this bit? Is there like a bit going

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Speaker 2: I'm asking you, Luke at this moment, hey post.

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Speaker 1: What that means? But okay, did you.

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Speaker 2: Well, Dana White did sort of like quote tweet this

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Speaker 1: No, I are you sure? I think that might be

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Speaker 1: MMA Sentel. Do you know Mma Sentel? You don't know this? No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, right, I get hacked by a fake Helwana

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Speaker 1: So there's a this this is where it started. And

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a Dana White IG. But Dana

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Connor is not Morob. Connor is barely Connor's

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Speaker 2: So yeah, about in between he's setting a cal Ripkin

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Speaker 1: Ship MMA's Wade Bogs. I mean, you know, I get it.

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Speaker 2: All right? Would you advise this next video Morob posted

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Speaker 5: Let's go you, Jersey, I'm coming, Jill seven and Steve Sugar,

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Speaker 5: you better show up and let's show people good fight,

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Speaker 5: good scrap, no excuse for you, no excuse for me

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Speaker 5: and people. I promise you're gonna have a great time,

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Speaker 5: good fight, and I'm coming. I'm healthy, I'm ready, I'm hungry.

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Speaker 5: Life is good. Look at this, dutiful nature. Look at this.

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Speaker 2: This is good life. I love this.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Guess dude, we don't have the schedule depth at the

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Speaker 2: And I'm wondering, Luke, when this fight got announced, people

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Speaker 1: M O'Malley versus Morob for a second time is good

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Speaker 1: That it was not It was not the consensus number

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that hotel room, a meeting, a bus, Harris, Harris, Teter, Trader, Joe's,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get into some bitch fest about it,

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Speaker 2: You know, and you referencing this weekend's card and then

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Speaker 2: using the term bitch fest was not misogyny, right, it was?

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Speaker 2: It was not related.

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Speaker 2: I just checking so, like, look, excuses are what they are.

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Speaker 2: I don't really know how you debate that Morob's not

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're looking at title defenses, he's got just

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Speaker 1: You know, so like he's not at enough of a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, six fights in a row defeating Marlon Moras, Josie Aldo,

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Speaker 1: It's extremely impressive. It's extremely impressive, and in fact for

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Speaker 2: add this about Morob's greatness, Luke. He would add in

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Speaker 2: if he did, and if he went victorious, going four

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Speaker 2: Would that elevate him to a or should that elevate

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Speaker 1: Although that's very ambitious, Yeah, I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I mean that's Poetson type almost.

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Speaker 1: is he had to you know, fill in late. He

431
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Speaker 1: had to fill in late at UFC three hundred basically,

432
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Speaker 1: so there's a heroic element to saving a car to

433
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Speaker 1: a degree. Now again, he'd have to have the right

434
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Speaker 1: dance partner. Morob's not poetson, but doing these events a

435
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Speaker 1: solid by showing up and I'll take over the main

436
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: event roles. You know that that sits well with fans

437
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Speaker 1: and for very good reason.

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Speaker 2: Now, look, we're going to get into this at length,

439
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Speaker 2: this fight next week as we break it down not

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Speaker 2: only in the storylines of Monday's episode, But don't forget

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Speaker 2: next Wednesday, June fourth, in New York City, eleven am Eastern,

442
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 2: a special Wednesday pregame preview of UFC three sixteen as LTBC,

443
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Speaker 2: and the Great A bron Aaron Bronstadter joins us in person.

444
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Speaker 2: But as we're looking a week and a half out,

445
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Speaker 2: the idea of the rematch being more competitive and more

446
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Speaker 2: exciting than the first fight, I already established that O'Malley

447
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: wasn't at one hundred percent, although few guys are apparently

448
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 2: including Morab here. But what do you make of these

449
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Speaker 2: comments from Tim Welch in that same ESPN interview when

450
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Speaker 2: he talks specifically about the sphere and says, quote, there

451
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: were tons and tons of shots that barely missed by

452
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Speaker 2: inches for O'Malley that would have completely changed the fight.

453
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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of it had to do

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Speaker 2: with the sphere and the lighting end quote. Now, look, look,

455
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Speaker 2: I do lump this in with the very poor performances

456
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Speaker 2: in boxing at that time, Square Turkey, Ela she Cart

457
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Speaker 2: a few weeks back where everyone that was there. I

458
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Speaker 2: talked to one of the judges that were inside there.

459
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Speaker 2: They said, it is the lights were flashing so much,

460
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Speaker 2: the heat was high, like it was a non traditional

461
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Speaker 2: boxing experience. And I connect that with David Benavitez of

462
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Speaker 2: boxing just this week, in an interview on the Sahudo

463
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Speaker 2: and USBAN podcast said publicly Turkey asked me to fight

464
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Speaker 2: in Alcatraz, but I'm like, no, man, I'm not into that.

465
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Speaker 2: I want to fight in real arenas, real fights, real fans.

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Speaker 2: Is there any stock you can put in those comments

467
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Speaker 2: from Welch because this fear was such a abnormal fighting situation.

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Speaker 1: I actually think that there is merit to this. Yeah,

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, anybody cynical enough is going to look at

470
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Speaker 1: this and say that you've got a standard MMA, maybe

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Speaker 1: even combat sports scenario, A friend slash training partner. This

472
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Speaker 1: one's a little bit more coach, but they're peers essentially

473
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Speaker 1: in age, taking someone's side after a poor performance and

474
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Speaker 1: then finding any manner of excuse. So the costume was

475
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Speaker 1: too heavy for Deontay Wilder, or my drink as you know,

476
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 1: laced with something, or you know, we were huffing paint

477
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Speaker 1: in the back, although that was pretty real too. Be

478
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Speaker 1: remember that when they were doing that in Saudi Arabia.

479
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Speaker 2: I got hurpie, so I got to pull out of

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Speaker 2: the co main event, you know, I got.

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Speaker 1: Sexually transmitted disease. Al. That one could be just a

482
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Speaker 1: delivered in utero, but either way, this it seems like

483
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Speaker 1: a similar kind of refrain, a similar kind of scenario,

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Speaker 1: And of course I can never dismiss that. But I actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually a little bit curious about this. BC. You

486
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Speaker 1: might you you you're a ball or a hooper. Here's

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Speaker 1: something that I Here's something that I guess I didn't

488
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Speaker 1: realize until I don't know, maybe relatively recently. I mean

489
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Speaker 1: I did intuitively, but I had it actually spelled out

490
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Speaker 1: to me by somebody who covers the NBA. If you

491
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Speaker 1: look at those glass backboards when you're shooting right basketball.

492
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Speaker 1: If you ever played in a gym at your high

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Speaker 1: school or maybe a church, depending what part of the

494
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Speaker 1: country you grew up in. I played in a church

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Speaker 1: league growing up BC and.

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Speaker 2: Uh foot in a church. But that's great to hear.

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Speaker 1: Luke, Well, I set foot in the church gym. I

498
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Speaker 1: did do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: When those glasses, when the glass backboard is there, how

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Speaker 1: many feet is it from the wall behind it? Maybe

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Speaker 1: ten feet, maybe fifteen feet. It's very close. Yeah, right,

503
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Speaker 1: it's very very close. What it turns out is in

504
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Speaker 1: the NBA that's not really a thing because when the

505
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Speaker 1: glass comes down, there's space behind the thing, and people

506
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Speaker 1: are waiving all kinds of stuff to distract. It turns

507
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Speaker 1: out it's less about the distraction and more about the

508
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Speaker 1: depth perception that it's easier to shoot when those two

509
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Speaker 1: things are closer. When they're further apart, like in an

510
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Speaker 1: NBA sized arena, it's very very difficult. You know, that

511
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Speaker 1: open spacing in the back, and then the lighting that

512
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Speaker 1: can come from this. If you're already nervous, if you're

513
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Speaker 1: already not used to this, I actually could see how

514
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Speaker 1: it could potentially be, you know, not the reason why

515
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: you lost, but definitely some of the reasons why overall

516
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Speaker 1: you might have underperformed, at least in certain individual context.

517
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Speaker 1: It's a question about he's making it about light, but

518
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Speaker 1: I'm saying there's also that weird spacing behind it and

519
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Speaker 1: any kind of any kind of change in the common

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Speaker 1: sensory experiences. I don't know. Yeah, Actually, that to me

521
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Speaker 1: seems like it could be something I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I talked to one of those judges, like

523
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Speaker 2: I said, at the time square boxing match, where they

524
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Speaker 2: said the flashing lights from all the big screens around

525
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Speaker 2: really was distracting and and kind of was like something

526
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Speaker 2: you're not used to. So can that.

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Speaker 1: Your eye just gets pulled in a certain direction you

528
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Speaker 1: don't even you're not even used to. Yeah, I think

529
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Speaker 1: it could mess you up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think we're gonna get a better fight regardless

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Speaker 2: of that. But how about a little luke. Uh. We

532
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Speaker 2: don't usually do wholesome moments on the show because combat

533
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Speaker 2: sports rarely produces them. But here's Morob and his pops

534
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Speaker 2: getting after it. Your thoughts here?

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Speaker 4: Oh uh?

536
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Speaker 2: But by the undercarriage right there? Look, your dad do

537
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Speaker 2: that here? Or what?

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Speaker 1: No? I didn't have. I never got that close to

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Speaker 1: a hug.

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Speaker 2: No, I'd love to see that right there, look as it.

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Speaker 2: Oh we got well, sorry, we have one more. One

542
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Speaker 2: more quote here from Rob if we can go to

543
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Speaker 2: it about just the history he's trying to make little.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, it's it's I don't look at this

545
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 5: one like easy fight. It's gonna be challenge. But after that,

546
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Speaker 5: I want to be busy. You know, I'm just gonna

547
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 5: take only one month off and I will be back

548
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 5: to training camp and I want to be busy.

549
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Speaker 1: I heard.

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Speaker 5: They they will have a fight in Guatellajara, Mexico. I

551
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 5: would like to fight there, and I would like to

552
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Speaker 5: fight in New York or December Vegas. You know, like

553
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: let's see, let's see if you get get this one

554
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 5: and two more this year. Let's see if you get

555
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Speaker 5: you know, I mean, yeah, I'm willing. I'm I'm yeah,

556
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Speaker 5: I'm that's that's how excited I am. And yeah, I

557
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: want to be just busy, you know, because I'm I'm

558
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Speaker 5: in good chef and uh, I want to because when

559
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Speaker 5: you have a fight, you know, you know, you you

560
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 5: put so many and you one of the busiest fight

561
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 5: in UFC. And when you have a fight schedule, you're

562
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 5: more discipline, you smart, You're not hanging out, you know

563
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Speaker 5: well looke.

564
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Speaker 2: While the UFC continues to hold off on the fights

565
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Speaker 2: we want for the next TV deal, he might get

566
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Speaker 2: that opportunity in this great division. Could you see him

567
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: again Sam Egan next? Yes? Could you see him against

568
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: Yan in a rematch after that potentially just as an example? Yes, so, uh,

569
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Speaker 2: he's got to get through Sugar first next weekend. Look

570
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Speaker 2: that cole main event, Kayla Harrison against Juliana Pania for

571
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Speaker 2: the Women's bandon Wait Championship. The odds are telling you

572
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Speaker 2: that it's all a uh, it's all set up here,

573
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Speaker 2: and that that this is going to be a big

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Speaker 2: time victory from Harrison. I do feel a lot of

575
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: us believe that. Are you worried at all? As we

576
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: consistently bring up this topic of the weight Kayla Harrison

577
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: would say in the past week on Instagram that she

578
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Speaker 2: needs to walk six miles a day and do two

579
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Speaker 2: full workouts to be able to keep pace for this

580
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Speaker 2: weight cut down to one thirty five. We remind everyone

581
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Speaker 2: that she won PFL championships at one fifty five and

582
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Speaker 2: Judah judokad Judoka apostrophe ed at one hundred and seventy

583
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Speaker 2: one pounds in winning two Olympic gold medals. I'm really

584
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Speaker 2: worried about this, Luke. She did admit to urinating blood

585
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Speaker 2: in the lead up to her last fight to set

586
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Speaker 2: up this opportunity.

587
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Speaker 1: I just saw your cat's buttthole.

588
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's zoe She's not looking to hide it, right,

589
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: That's the one good thing Reggie brings to the tables.

590
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Speaker 2: Zoey's like, I don't care about your listeners, your followers.

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Speaker 1: Your cat is an unbelievable whore.

592
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if only fans were around for cats,

593
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Speaker 2: you know that it'd be a possibility for her.

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Speaker 1: Okay, like me, let me just say this. This is

595
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Speaker 1: this is a debate that comes up in anti doping,

596
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Speaker 1: which is what is the role of sport and health?

597
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Speaker 1: And it sort of sounds like a weird question. It's like, Oh,

598
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Speaker 1: you're playing games, or you're engaged in you know, cardiovascular

599
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Speaker 1: or strength or some kind of way to improve the

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Speaker 1: body's ability to athletically function that must necessarily be related

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Speaker 1: to health. And actually, what you begin to realize is

602
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Speaker 1: professional sport has nothing to do with health. Professional sport

603
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Speaker 1: has everything to do with the capacity to play, and

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Speaker 1: that might mean playing through injury. That might mean playing

605
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Speaker 1: in ways that are bad for your brain health, that

606
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Speaker 1: might mean any number of actually trade offs to both

607
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Speaker 1: your present and long term health. If it aids your

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Speaker 1: ability to play through the playoffs, big games, you know,

609
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: you name it. This is a clear indication that sport

610
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: has absolutely nothing to pro sport, and in particular pro amme,

611
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Speaker 1: which you knew from the brain trauma and the injuries.

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Speaker 1: More generally, here's a case where non contact right, we're

613
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Speaker 1: not talking about sparring training, We're not talking non contact

614
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: training is absolutely a prison sentence that she is locked into. Dude,

615
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it. She's doing long term damage

616
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: to herself. And I don't say this as like gleefully

617
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: or I think it's good. And I bet she knows

618
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: it too. Like I've interviewed Caleb many times, she's a

619
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: very smart, successful person. I'm sure she's making a calculated

620
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: trade off here BC about what's accessible and how much

621
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Speaker 1: of that she's willing to expend to get it. And

622
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's going to be a very narrow window

623
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Speaker 1: because what she's doing is probably real bad for her,

624
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Speaker 1: and on top of it, just not even to think,

625
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: even if you wanted to, that you could do for

626
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: much longer than she's doing. I don't expect her to

627
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: have a long run in UFC unless they bring back

628
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: forty five in some kind of way.

629
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Speaker 2: Are you looking at this comin event next week which

630
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people are deriding. I get it, a

631
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: lot of people are deriding women's MM in general. Do

632
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Speaker 2: you look at it as the winner gets a mannis

633
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: and that's the best thing we can say about.

634
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: It, or the fight itself could be good, you know,

635
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: but yes, if it leads to the return of Amanda Nunez,

636
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: I think that it's just hard to see that anything

637
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: else currently happening in the women's game, and UFC is

638
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: bigger than that. Again, Chef Chenko versus John Wiley is

639
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: a separate exception, perhaps and the only one. But everything else,

640
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: it's Amanda is the big figure.

641
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, we'll check out what goes on next

642
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: week in New York. Hopefully these fights will be held together,

643
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Luke topic number two. We will look ahead to recently

644
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: rumored or announced fights and get a letter grade from

645
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Speaker 2: you between A plus and F minus now, Luke. The

646
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Speaker 2: first one came to us by way ask a question, Yeah.

647
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Speaker 1: Please, how do you have an F minus? I would

648
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 1: say that means failing. I mean, at that point it

649
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: doesn't well.

650
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to give you extra new on

651
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: because there's F fights, but then there's F minus fights.

652
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: Look you know what I'm saying.

653
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I one time wrote a paper one time overnight,

654
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: and I remember the teacher. This is in college, and

655
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: I didn't care about this class at all, and uh

656
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,239
Speaker 1: it was patrick a pass fail. And they wrote on

657
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: one of my papers F then they crossed it out,

658
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: then they wrote D minus, then they crossed it out,

659
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: and then they left me with a C minus. And

660
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll take it.

661
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: And then they were like, seek oxygen and women, please,

662
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go, Luke. The first one comes to

663
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: us from an unusual source. UFC play by play announcer

664
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Speaker 2: John Annick, who, during an episode of the Annik Florian

665
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: Pod with Ray Longo as a guest in his typical

666
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: weekly spot, we got breaking news about a former welterweight

667
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: champions next fight, right, how do you?

668
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: How do I?

669
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Speaker 7: Well, I'm glad that he has an undisputed. You have

670
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 7: see Weltsway Championship. Helt at home and I'm glad that

671
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 7: he's married to the game. And we'll see what rock

672
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 7: Monop has for him in October. Okay below versus shot

673
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Speaker 7: Pot at October. There's your breaking news?

674
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Speaker 1: All right?

675
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Speaker 2: Would you rather now, Luke? I did not see UFC

676
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: follow it up with a news I mean they're not talking, yo,

677
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: He's noting about anything right now? All right? They talking

678
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: about Canelo, Crawford, Jones, Aspital. They ain't talking. But we

679
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 2: do know that Anikist friends with Bola. We know that

680
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: Annex's twin brother Jason, hosts a podcast with him. If

681
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: this is the fight in which we're doing a lot

682
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: of time rightfully matchmaking the welterweight division, Bilal coming off

683
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: a close title loss and a healthy Shavecot, who will

684
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: get skipped in terms of being next for the title

685
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 2: due to the injuries he's had, and also islam Matchev

686
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: jumping in. Are you down with Blal versus Shavcott next

687
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: in October?

688
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: Sure? Sure?

689
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: Uh?

690
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: The division moves fast. The fight over with Ian Gary

691
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: was not the kind of drubbing that it maybe could

692
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: have or should have been. Or you know you name it,

693
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: like he kind of squeaked by with Gary on his

694
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: back in the end, Squeakdby is a little strong, but

695
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: maybe kind of squeaked by Gary a little bit in

696
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: that fight and then was off for a long time.

697
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: That's not enough of a mandate to hold you spot.

698
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: It's just not You got to get it back out

699
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: there and do it. And Belall is a tough ass

700
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: fight for anybody. Jack beat him, but it wasn't like

701
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: a walk in the park for him by any stretch

702
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: of the imagination. Again, two of the judges had it

703
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: to too heading into the fifth. Yeah, Rockmanhoff should get

704
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: out there and fight him again. If Rockmanov is that guy,

705
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: that's a winnable fight. So one way or the other,

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00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: I have no problem with it. If they if he

707
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: wants to hold on, I think that'd be a mistake.

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00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't bitch about that either, bec But you're asking,

709
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: do I think it's a good move if they end

710
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: up making that fight, particularly for that card at that

711
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 1: time of the year, Yes, yes, I do, absolutely.

712
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 2: Now, am I getting played here by another fake account

713
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 2: or John Annick playing with the audience? If this is real?

714
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: I want to get your letter grade, but do you

715
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: believe this is real?

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00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: Let's just treat it like it's real. How about that.

717
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: We don't know if it's real, letter grade A minus.

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Speaker 2: I'm into that. I'm into that, all right, let's get

719
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Speaker 2: into our second fight announcement here. It's a report that

720
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: came from a South American MMA journalist whose name I

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00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: don't have in front of me. Luke my bad on

722
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: that one. But according to this report another former Well

723
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: that's the way champion Leon Edwards could be back for

724
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: UFC notch September, presumably in Wada Lajara. But you know

725
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 2: UFC doesn't talk against Michael Morales. If we get Rocky Edwards,

726
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: Michael Morales next, what's your grade?

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00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: Fucking A? I don't know if that again, the fight

728
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: could be MMA Sentel special B. See, we don't really

729
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: know if it's real. I absolutely freaking love it again,

730
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: young versus old, although Leon's he's very young old, if

731
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But you know he's not over the

732
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: hill like thirty six, thirty seven or something like that,

733
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Speaker 1: so he's still I know he's in a tough spot

734
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: coming off two straight losses. One of the was a

735
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: terrible finish. But Morales is a very different game than

736
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Speaker 1: both Ballall as well as Sean Brady. He's a different

737
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: beast altogether, and I don't know if he's ready for it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit too much, too soon.

739
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: But again, this is the thing with excelling, I should say,

740
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: accelerating through the contendership q at at the speed he's

741
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Speaker 1: doing it, it's an interesting test for both guys. I

742
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: would love that fight. And by the way, Morales, as

743
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: you mentioned, trains in Mexico for long portions of the year,

744
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: so that would be not a homecoming exactly, but they

745
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: would certainly be favorable towards him.

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Speaker 2: Well, we might be putting out fake feis Luke, but

747
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: that's that's the news cycle this week. Another fight that

748
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: does not appear to be fake appears to be fully announced,

749
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: and you referenced it on Monday on last Friday show,

750
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: August second UFC APEX main event, Amir al Bosi at

751
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 2: flyweight versus Tatsua Tyro. Are you in what's your grade?

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00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? B plus, really great fight, really fun, both guys

753
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: being very hyped. Kind of next, you know, maybe these

754
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: are in the future of the division, kind of figures

755
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: at flyweight, but then had some real setbacks. And that's okay,

756
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: particularly in the case of Tyro, who's quite young, although

757
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: all Bosio I think is pretty young too, but I

758
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: think Tyron's are the younger of the two. Definitely has

759
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: time to get a lot better. So they're still really exciting.

760
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,399
Speaker 1: So now you're getting top prospects, I think, still top

761
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: prospects locking horns with one another. Yeah, I'm all in

762
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: favor of that. I know we don't want to cannibalize

763
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: the division, but you don't want to skip interesting prospect

764
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: fights if you don't have to, and that seems like

765
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: a fun one to make.

766
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna get some fun turnover in this division

767
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: between that Cop versus Roy Vall. Obviously we've got the

768
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: champion coming up against KKF, so we could see some

769
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: key changes at the top. So that's the August second

770
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Speaker 2: Fight Night APEX main event. One week later, August ninth,

771
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 2: also in the APEX, we officially have a middleweight main event,

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00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: Fluffy Hernandez back against Roman de Ledes. Do you like

773
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: this for a APEX slop fest?

774
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: I actually like it a lot. That's another great fight.

775
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: I mean, these are good fights. Now this one I'm

776
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: gonna give a bee because it doesn't have a lot

777
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: of you know, celebrity sizzle, it doesn't have a title,

778
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: there's some questions about exactly how far the winner goes here.

779
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: But for Fluffy Hernandez, this would be his most important

780
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: fight to date. He has looked vulnerable in key ways,

781
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: particularly to the body, although we've also seen him perform

782
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: when he was sick and you know, injured and all

783
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: kinds of other messed up stuff, and his resiliency is remarkable.

784
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: But of course, what does he really have got. He's

785
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: got an unbelievable gas tank and pressure over the long term.

786
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: So that is going to be a really tough fight

787
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: for Rooman, maybe not up front, but again, like any

788
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: fight with Hernandez down the stretch, is going to be

789
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: a real grind. Love that fight. Look forward to that one.

790
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: A fun one at middleweight.

791
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the thirty six year old Deledze has won

792
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: three straight Anthony Smith, Kevin Holland and then Marvin Vittori,

793
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 2: so he's on a little bit of a run. Luke,

794
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: you think it should be automatic that if you're a

795
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 2: big Cheyenne fan, you're automatically a Delede fan, right, connect

796
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: people's fandoms, Luke, if you will, apparently you won't.

797
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: And finally look to connect people's fandoms.

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00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: Yes, I am uh Luke. July nineteenth, We already know

799
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: PFL Africa will make its debut. We already know it's

800
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: gonna air live at four am Eastern time, and we

801
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: already know it's up against that day. You know, nothing

802
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: like Pacquiao coming back, or Usik Dubato or a Bam

803
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: Rodriguez or I don't know. I mean, there's a lot

804
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: going on that day. But in addition to those main

805
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: two card fight or main fights atop the card, which

806
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: is World middle eight champion Johnny Eblin and also Dakota

807
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: Ditchivo on the Colemane event, somebody get my dad up

808
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. We have two more fights to round

809
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: out that main card. We can throw to the full

810
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: graphic here. Corey Anderson is gonna move up to heavyweight

811
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Speaker 2: and take on twenty twenty four Heavyweight Tournament champion Dennis Goitsov.

812
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: And then we've got aj McKee cutting back down to

813
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: featherweight to take on eleven and one Ahmed Maga Metoff.

814
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: Luke all things considered here for PFL, what do you

815
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: think about the strength of this card overall with these

816
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: two fights on it.

817
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: I think it's Goltsov. That's an el there, not an eye.

818
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: There's there's no way I can continue to mess that

819
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: name up more than I already do apologies out there.

820
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's like it's like me, I got

821
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: like Macy Chassen. How do you say it again? Yeah,

822
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: it's like for some reason, my brain just won't let

823
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: me do it. I listen, put the card up one

824
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: more time. Put the card of one more time. Okay, look,

825
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: look here, this fight should be a relative. PFL has

826
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: a way of surprising you, but your main event should

827
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: be a nice clean win for Eblin. I think Ditscheva

828
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: is going to do evil things to in Abba. In

829
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Abba a long time betef belt or veteran, well rounded,

830
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: but at a lower level basically everywhere than Ditscheva, Aj

831
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: McKee versus Akhmed Maga Medov. I think this should be

832
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: maybe showcase for Edwikey. No, the key should be a

833
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: slight favorite here, but it could be fun and competitive.

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Speaker 1: Cory Anderson go against Goltsov is huge, so I'm six

835
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Speaker 1: foot four about two seventy five, I walked past Goldsov

836
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: and he towered over me both in like Luke's shoulder

837
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: width and height. He's a huge man for Anderson, thank

838
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: you for the card. For Anderson to jump up to

839
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: heavyweight just to stay active against a guy like that,

840
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: that's a huge challenge. It's actually kind of ans that

841
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: card has a little bit of Strikeforce challengers vibe to it.

842
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I don't mind it.

843
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: But what do you think about aj McKee cutting back

844
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 2: to featherweight after a couple fight run there at lightweight?

845
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Might not be the worst idea. He's not a big lightweight.

846
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: He's a good sized lightweight, but he's a big featherweight

847
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: if he can do it. I actually don't think it's

848
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: a bad call at all.

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Speaker 2: You know what. I want to see these people get

850
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: their careers going. Like whatever Corey Anderson has left in

851
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: the tank. I'm glad he finally has another fight because

852
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: he's been campaigning for it. I don't want PFL to

853
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 2: fold because I want there to be options for people.

854
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,240
Speaker 2: But it's like guys like aj McKee before he's suddenly

855
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: going to be thirty three one day, it's like, I

856
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: kind of want to see him now in the UFC, Luke,

857
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: So should I be chairing? What should I be cheering

858
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: for Pepfel to just trade all their good people left

859
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: that they have no clue how to promote so they

860
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: can go to the UFC like Pico just did, Like, uh,

861
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: what's his name? Just did PATCHI Mix just did and

862
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: he'll be debuting next week in Newark? What should I

863
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: be cheering for.

864
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: Here, Luke, I don't knownerstand the question.

865
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: If I want all these people to carry on their

866
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: careers in meaningful fights Ditchiva included, then should is it

867
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: like reverse karma to chair against PFL staying alive when

868
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: we all want other avenues for fighters, But it's this

869
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be an avenue that's producing what the

870
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: fighters actually want.

871
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: The die is already cast. I mean, I've been trying

872
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: to say this for a long time. The die is

873
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 1: already cast. It's already too late. I you know, I'm

874
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: not sure what to say. People don't want to connect

875
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: the dots. They want to pretend that everything that's happened

876
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: can be utterly surmised by the wisdom of the executive's decisions.

877
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: And there's I say it every time. There's a million

878
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: things to pick at about what Don Davis and Crewe

879
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: have done, although they've made some good decisions too. But like,

880
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: I'll say it one more time, de la Hoya makes money.

881
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: Do you think he makes money significant amounts as a

882
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: promoter in boxing because he's a genius at it? Oh

883
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: my god, Like, what are we talking about here? This

884
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: is silly. This is a ridiculous conversation. People don't want

885
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: to accept the reality of it, and I guess it's

886
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: a you know, we're beating a dead horse with this.

887
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't need to go on about it. But the

888
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: die is already cast. There's nothing to do. So the

889
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: only thing I'm rooting for is that they can remain

890
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: active as much as possible, and that we can get

891
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: that service as best we can before the inevitable takes over.

892
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be so gloomy, but that is just

893
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: where we are.

894
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: I mean, getting serviced is what I'm after, Luke. To

895
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: be fair, all right, that's topic number two.

896
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: Pull in? Do you pull into jiffy lubin? You're like,

897
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: which one of you guys is gonna blow me?

898
00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: How does this?

899
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 8: Sir?

900
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: I asked for his service.

901
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: You get in the back with the oil chains you uh, Luke?

902
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: Topic number three. As we continue to try to fill

903
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: out a dead week with filler material, just brightened by

904
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: our own personalities and charisma and enthusiasm, I came across

905
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: a random tweet that normally I'd skip because it comes

906
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: from the mouth of famed Twitter boxing matchmaker Rick Glazer.

907
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: But if we co host, but if we could throw

908
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: to the legendary New York State matchmaker's tweet here, it

909
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: got me thinking. Rick Lazer said, many talk about who

910
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: the face of boxing is, Canelo tank Aj in a

911
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: way are most mentioned. The reality is the face of boxing,

912
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: according to Glazer, is Turkey Alachic as Turkey has now

913
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: established himself in the business and to the public as

914
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 2: the ultimate boxing power in the world. Now, you know,

915
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: exclamation point, Luke. You know, one out of every ten

916
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: scoops from Glacier. Sometimes it turns out to be true

917
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 2: Luke and is in spite or originated. But in this case,

918
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: his tweet got me thinking not just about who are

919
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: the faces relative you know, respect respectively, in both boxing

920
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: and MMA, but who are the power figures at the

921
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: moment in all of combat sports. So, Luke, in light

922
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: of that, I tasked both of us with ranking in

923
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 2: order a top five list of who we think are

924
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: literally the most powerful players in this game, with the

925
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: most poll leverage and influence when it comes to making

926
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: big events and big fights and making headlines in that

927
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: regard to So, Luke, do you want to well, how

928
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: do you want to reveal this?

929
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: I would actually this time, I think it'd be better

930
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,760
Speaker 1: if you went first.

931
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: All right, all right, are we good? Let's start off

932
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: with number five here. I think this is potentially my

933
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: most controversial hold on.

934
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: So just just to clarify, we're gonna give you top

935
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: five of who we think are the most powerful and

936
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: then separately what we think the average fan views as

937
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: the face of MMA and the face of boxing. So

938
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: one is like what the fans think one is not.

939
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: Just to be clear, my top five power players in

940
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: combat sports at the moment, I am interested in your

941
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: response to this. Number five. I have Jake Paul at

942
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: the moment, as controversial as he can be. Obviously when

943
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: he fights, people tune in to varying degrees, but still

944
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 2: he's built a pay per view business out of fighting

945
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: retired MMA names and a mixture of people from different backgrounds.

946
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: He also put forth a fight against Mike Tyson that

947
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: had numbers we haven't seen in many years. You add

948
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: that to the idea that he is a successful promoter

949
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: who's looking to corner the market in women's boxing, and

950
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: we'll be back on Netflix in just a few weeks

951
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: at Madison Square Garden with arguably the biggest fight in

952
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: women's boxing history. I bring this name up largely because

953
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: Netflix is the new what we were ten fifteen years

954
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: ago of. If we can only get boxing on regular TV,

955
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: if we can only get it on CBS, NBC, Fox, ABC,

956
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: that's Netflix nowadays. Jake Paul seems to have the inside

957
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: track above anybody on getting that. Do you agree this

958
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: guy's top five most influential slash powerful people in this

959
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: combat sports game today?

960
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting debate. To me, where would

961
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: you say?

962
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 6: So?

963
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: Here, here's the issue. I didn't have him as number

964
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: five on my list, Not that I think your list

965
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: is crazy to start out with that at five, but

966
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: we have to define the terms of his power. So

967
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: is he that significant a presence as a promoter? Well,

968
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: he certainly is in the women's game, but not in

969
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: the men's game. He's really not very much at all. Now,

970
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: he is a significant presence BC, as you indicated with

971
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: the huge amount of people watching the Tyson File on Netflix,

972
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what happens with JCC Junior

973
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And again some of the big stuff he's

974
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: doing Women's MMA is quite big, the return to Netflix

975
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: for Serrano and Taylor. But you know, I could see

976
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: for me, he didn't make that list because while I

977
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: recognize he is a significant presence, the question is to

978
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: what kind of amount does he lred his power over

979
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: the industry to shape it not just for his own ends,

980
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: but to shape boxing more broadly. And to that regard,

981
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I say, he's not that powerful.

982
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: So I pushed back against that. There's a very few

983
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: amount of people who can be I guess all things

984
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: at once, and he kind of is that. Meaning he's

985
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: a fighter that can draw his own big time ratings

986
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: and attention. He's a promoter. He's also an influencer who

987
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 2: connects to a younger audience, which is everyone's goal in

988
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: combat sports. But you know, people have very mixed results

989
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: on that. Is he specifically strong enough in any of

990
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: those areas singularly to be on this list. No, but

991
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: I think if you make the totality of it combined

992
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: and really keep in mind that Netflix thing. I mean, Luke,

993
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: didn't it seem like Turkey and Dana We're gonna get

994
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: on Netflix with Canella Crawford And that's like, I mean,

995
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: it's everybody's want. There are people that believe Turkey and

996
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: Dana only announce their partnership on March fifth to try

997
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 2: to hold Jake off from getting a potential residency on Netflix,

998
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 2: although that never looked likely because Netflix want seems to

999
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: be to only do big time combat events. But I

1000
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: think you know, you're talking influence, you're talking leverage, You're

1001
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 2: talking he was that close from fighting the biggest star

1002
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: in the sport, Canelo on Netflix. Even though Jake's not

1003
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: quote unquote a real fighter, which I do agree with.

1004
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 2: He's not quote unquote a real fighter in that sense,

1005
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: but even in the sense that he is, he's the

1006
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: face of the crossover bubble and he's like trying to

1007
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 2: make fights with Anthony Joshua Jervonte Davis. I'm not here

1008
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 2: to argue the quality of those fights. I'm just saying

1009
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: that's power when you can get people to be willing

1010
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: to do that, and you have the connections to create

1011
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 2: the platforms, and you can handle everything in house yourself

1012
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 2: ultimately because you're also a promoter, it's pretty remarkable.

1013
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: It is power, but it's self centered power, which I

1014
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: again I'm not yeah, of course, like that's what you

1015
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: want to do. But to me, it's not quite the

1016
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: same as Floyd, And it's not even close to being

1017
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: the same as what Floyd and Showtime coming together that

1018
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: had a big net industry impact. I've not seen that exactly.

1019
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: I've seen it where he was able to raise to

1020
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: see again, we all saw the numbers for the Netflix fight,

1021
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: it was fucking enormous. Like to that end, he does

1022
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: wheeld power, but it all seems directed like vacking it up,

1023
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: not about extending it out. And I don't know, it's

1024
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: just a different way to see power. But I certainly

1025
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: recognize the point you're I don't think it's crazy to

1026
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: have him on that list. We see in fact that

1027
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in any way being like, oh this is laughable.

1028
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's it's an interesting debate.

1029
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 8: Right.

1030
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: Let me go to number four. He's in og in

1031
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 2: this game. And you certainly can make the argument giving

1032
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 2: his age, reported hell scares in the last year and

1033
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: also losing the big platform at the end of twenty

1034
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: twenty three in showtime, But I don't think you can

1035
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: ever count out al Haman in this game or even

1036
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: try to diminish the influence he still has. Remember when

1037
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 2: it came time to get Timo Bullerina for Cinco de Mayo,

1038
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 2: who got it over you know, UFC and Dana White

1039
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: and all that for note was it was al Haman

1040
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: who can still put together the biggest pay per views

1041
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 2: in this game that are that are done the quote

1042
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: unquote you know traditional way that can drive the live

1043
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: gates behind Dravante and obviously Floyd Mayweather and a litany

1044
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: of all stars before him. But I think you also

1045
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: have to look at not just the history the last

1046
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: fifteen years of what have been the biggest pay per

1047
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: views in combat sports history, and who has been the

1048
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: promoter of record, even though technically he's a advisor slash manager,

1049
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: but you understand the point, he's the he's the boss

1050
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. That's al and today even still with

1051
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 2: a big platform on Prime even though they they're certainly

1052
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: struggling to get back up to where they were would

1053
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: probably be the best way to say it. I still think, Luke,

1054
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: when you when you look at connections, the ability to

1055
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: put on the biggest fights, that that moved, the attention

1056
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: in the in the metrics that we that we value

1057
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: from live gate to pay per view buys. Hayman's still

1058
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: that dude, still the O G. Got to recognize that.

1059
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: I challenged this one. I think that there is a

1060
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: time b C. I think we would both agree and

1061
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: not too distantly from now where he was without question

1062
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: the most powerful guy in boxing, and that that that

1063
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: stood for a long time. So this is not a

1064
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: question of, like, you know, is this guy was this

1065
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: guy ever relevant? He was? He was the relevance for

1066
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: a huge amount of time, and to the point you raise,

1067
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: still doing and contributing in important ways as well, despite

1068
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, rumors or reports of declining health and any

1069
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: number of other factors as you previously articulated. But I

1070
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: don't think if we're looking at who's really driving the

1071
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: industry you could put him in your top five. I mean,

1072
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to see how he's got more

1073
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: influence than Jake Paul and I don't even know if

1074
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: Jake Paul deserves to be on the list.

1075
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: He still has Tank, he still has David Benavitez among others.

1076
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: Still Yeah, but how much has he lost in the

1077
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 1: last two years. I mean he's significant amount.

1078
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 2: It's a fair argument. I mean, look, the entire business

1079
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: has changed in the last year and a half in

1080
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: see sure insane incredible ways. But I got him there

1081
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: at number four. Interesting to debate here. Let's go to

1082
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: number three, Luke, this guy's certainly the fastest riser. But

1083
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: I believe that the rumors are true, or that the

1084
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: great reporting done by places like the MMA draw are true,

1085
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: that Dana White, who long would have probably been number

1086
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: one on this list for many a year, or you know,

1087
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: no worse than two or three, that a lot of

1088
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 2: his responsibilities these days are going to the man I

1089
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: have at number three, and that's Hunter Campbell. That's the

1090
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: deal maker for the UFC, the chief business officer who

1091
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: from negotiating fights to seemingly having a big hand in

1092
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: making to all things business. I think it's hard to

1093
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: diminish the power that this gentleman has today. Are we

1094
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: wrong to say that although we don't you know, we're

1095
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: not behind the scenes every day. It really feels like

1096
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: this is the guy at UFC these days in a

1097
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: role that was once either Dana or Dana, with Lorenzo

1098
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: right behind his ear calling those shots.

1099
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question fully agree with this one. Hunter

1100
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: Campbell's the guy. He is the guy making the deals,

1101
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: He's the guy traveling to make the deals. Dana White

1102
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: still serves a important and I think reasonably valuable function

1103
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: to the organization, but the nuts in like the backbone,

1104
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: who's the executive. Who's the backbone of the executive at UFC.

1105
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: It has to be Hunter Campbell at this point. It's him,

1106
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: no question about it, and he's got a land in everything.

1107
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this would fix some of the communication issues

1108
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: in theory that we have with UFC. But I know that,

1109
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: like when Dana's not at the press conferences, they put

1110
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 2: out David Shaw ahead of international and maybe it makes

1111
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: sense when they're in international cities, although I can certainly

1112
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: argue against that because he doesn't have answers to the

1113
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: larger questions that the media sort of demands, or you

1114
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 2: could argue deserves to be able to ask and hear

1115
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 2: would you like it? Instead of show if they started

1116
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: working Hunter Campbell into this job, since we are all

1117
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: starting to believe that that's like, if not already the

1118
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: boss behind the scenes, like that's the guy who should

1119
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 2: be answering these questions.

1120
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, so that's a really interesting question. It depends

1121
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: what you want, and that only the fans can decide this.

1122
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: I can't decide this for anything, nor am I going

1123
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: to declare what's best. I don't know what's best. Do

1124
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: you want somebody out there who can actually promote in

1125
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: the way and I'm saying this pejoratively but also not

1126
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: to carnival bark Do you want a Carnival barker? Like?

1127
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: Do you want someone who will get out there and

1128
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: like Eddie Hearn to me, does the job of both

1129
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: like making fights and then carnival barking. And to be clear,

1130
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: that's a legitimate part of being a depending on your

1131
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: style of promotion, but it can it can be. It's like,

1132
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: it's not a thing I'm saying is all the way bad,

1133
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: but it does require a certain kind of like car

1134
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: salesmanship to it. Right. Do you want that from Hunter

1135
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: Campbell or do you want someone to fill that role

1136
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: for UFC? And then Hunter Campbell can just do whatever

1137
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: he does more normally and doesn't have to face press scrutiny.

1138
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it'd be nice to have some level

1139
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: of that. I think thinking of this in terms of

1140
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: press scrutiny is like almost an out antiquated way of

1141
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: looking at it. So only the fans can decide what's

1142
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: missing about that. But Hunter Campbell cannot be Dana White.

1143
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: They are. They are split in that regard BC, and

1144
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: I think trying to put them back together by having

1145
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: Hunter do more media careful what you wish for. I

1146
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to deliver exactly what people think.

1147
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: Or do any media, I mean, you know, or do

1148
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: any Yeah, it was the star of that Roku doc

1149
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: It did teach us a lot Luke, even if it

1150
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: seems like UFC kind of do you think they regret

1151
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: that doing that?

1152
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that? I don't know if

1153
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: I've told you this. One of the guys who made

1154
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: that documentary I won't say on which side of it

1155
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: reached out to me maybe three four months ago, and yeah,

1156
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: there was a lot of my understanding was a lot

1157
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: of what got out there. How do I say this

1158
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: exactly wasn't supposed to, I'll put it that way.

1159
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did let a lot. I mean they let

1160
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: us see a lot, I mean a lot, and I

1161
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. It was interesting. It changed the way I

1162
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: think we look at the company in a lot of ways.

1163
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: But let's carry on to number two. We're talking about

1164
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: the heaviest of heavy hitters now, and if you tried

1165
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: to argue this guy as number one, it might be

1166
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: hard to overtake you. But I'm gonna leave him at

1167
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: two here. And that's certainly Ari Emanuel, the head of

1168
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: both Endeavor, the owner of the UFC and that purchase

1169
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: at twenty sixteen, and now the conglomerate known as TKO Global, Inc.

1170
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: Which includes WWE, UFC, PBR, And we thought maybe TKO

1171
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Boxing now first and foremost, Luke he's the boss. I mean,

1172
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: he's Dana White, Nick con Hunter, Campbell, Tripleh's boss. That

1173
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: first and foremost is huge. He's running a company that

1174
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: up until a week and a half ago, we thought

1175
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 2: was like literally on the verge of a triple monopoly

1176
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: across the three major combat sports genres if you consider

1177
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: that in boxing, MMA, and pro wrestling. But I think

1178
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: Even more importantly, he seems to be obviously, along with

1179
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: Mark Shapiro, seems to be really be the brains behind

1180
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 2: the shift that UFC has done, in particular to seeking

1181
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: out government contracts and big site fees with all of

1182
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: these major cities in the US and beyond. And I

1183
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: say this as a drawback the idea of not just

1184
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: monetizing the UFC but turning it into a full time

1185
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: value extraction product, that to the point where the product

1186
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: is suffering because of how aggressively they are trying to

1187
00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: make money on every single space available to them. This

1188
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: guy's cutthroat, he's well traveled, well seasoned, and just the

1189
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: control he has and the people that answer to him alone,

1190
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: it's hard to find anyone in the history of combat

1191
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: sports who has more power and influence and leverage right

1192
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: now than Ari does. And it seems to be Luke

1193
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: that he's ruling that power with an iron fizz.

1194
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any under selling this at all.

1195
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: He is one of the most powerful people, not just

1196
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: in combat sports, in sports, if you think about it,

1197
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, there's many powerful people. I'm not saying he's

1198
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: the most over there. There's more important figures, but you know,

1199
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: the level of power over the size of the industry

1200
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: that he wields is significant, in charge of not one,

1201
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: but two monopolies and potentially three big, big, big time.

1202
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: And by the way, his brother is sort of floating

1203
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: a run for president Ram Emmanuel, and I think it's

1204
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: a long shot BC. But it's not just how powerful

1205
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: he is in combat sports, but the level of connectivity

1206
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: beyond sports and to tie these disparate worlds together of

1207
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: power and influence and tech. You know, you seen the

1208
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: video of him hosing off Elon Musk in the back

1209
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: of their yacht and whatnot. I mean, this is a

1210
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: guy who only interacts with other enormous power players in

1211
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: various other sectors of the world, in big deals with

1212
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: big influence. Yeah, he's easily one of the most important

1213
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: guys in sports.

1214
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: And I mean on the phone with the White House

1215
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: daily is what I hear.

1216
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Luke, Do you know what I mean?

1217
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: Like, you want to talk about the influence and control

1218
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 2: and I could say just enough negative things about what

1219
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 2: he and TKO has brought to combat sports, and I

1220
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: often do, But you want to talk about power, it's there,

1221
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: So who could trump that? Luke? I think you can

1222
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: all guess it.

1223
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Donald Trump.

1224
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: Close right, close, right, I mean, but no, it's Turkey

1225
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: alichic in what's going on in Saudi Arabia, And it's

1226
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: just first and foremost of this any fight or situation.

1227
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: When I say situation, I'll bring up this sphere last

1228
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: year as a great example. Any situation where you're like, man, damn,

1229
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: it'd be great if we could do that fight. But

1230
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: what about the money? What about the fact that this

1231
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 2: promoter doesn't work with this promote You know what about

1232
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 2: all that? Well, the thing that fixes that is extreme money.

1233
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: And nobody has access to more extreme money at the

1234
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: moment than Turkey Alaschik, from his connections as being the

1235
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: right hand man to MBS and the Crown there in

1236
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia, through running their general entertainment fund, through personally

1237
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: financing a purchase of the ring, and turning that historic

1238
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: publication now into a fight series in boxing. But it's

1239
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: not just boxing. The fact that we had a UFC

1240
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 2: No Chase celebration that was titled sponsored by Riodd Season

1241
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: and that Dana White's only call to be able to

1242
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 2: pull that off given the tight TKO financial guidelines that

1243
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 2: they that they run with it was Turkey. You gotta

1244
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: call Turkey, they did. He wields that power in a

1245
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: big way also across the WWE, although ww has had

1246
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: you know, relations with Saudi for years before Turkey took

1247
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: on this public facing role in combat sports. But combat

1248
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: sports is about money at the end of the day,

1249
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: and always has been. It's prize fighting. This guy's got

1250
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 2: the most of it. This guy's got the most control.

1251
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: Money brings people together that don't want to be together.

1252
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: Money changes everything in this game, not almost everything. Right,

1253
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out soon what's going on behind the

1254
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 2: scenes with this weird Canelo Crawford Messer, hopefully we will.

1255
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: But outside of that, who have we ever seen? I mean,

1256
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: Don King tried to be this back in the day

1257
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: but couldn't get it done. Al Hayman, you could argue

1258
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen took over the sport of boxing in

1259
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 2: such an aggressive way that we've almost never seen it.

1260
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: This guy's not just taking over boxing. It's similar to

1261
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: the effect that Ari Emmanuel has. And that's why I

1262
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: think a lot of us were like, oh my god,

1263
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: we're gonna pair up Ari with Turkey. Now that doesn't.

1264
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem now that that's true, although you know

1265
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: it's been silent. We'll see. But dude, I never imagined

1266
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: one person over a year and a half doing exactly

1267
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: what this man has done. And it's not his wallet

1268
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,400
Speaker 2: for the most part. It's a country that is looking

1269
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 2: to do incredible things for their own image and their

1270
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: own reputation, and they're willing to s been for it.

1271
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: But Luke, if you call him up and get him involved,

1272
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: you can get anything final. There's not a thing that

1273
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: you can't get financed these days. Better call Turkey. People

1274
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: are calling him. He's the man right now across the board.

1275
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 2: Say what you will about him.

1276
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: I don't have much to add to that. I'd have

1277
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: a slightly different position for a few things on my list,

1278
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: so we can get to that in just a second.

1279
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: But you know, I've seen powerful figures come and go

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Speaker 1: through boxing. I don't know if I've seen one this

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Speaker 1: powerful before.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into your list, I did want to

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Speaker 2: ask you this related to how we're putting this together.

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Speaker 2: People might say, oh, b see no fighters on your list.

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01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 2: In different years that would have changed. Maybe Canelo's on

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Speaker 2: the top three. Good point up to four years ago,

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Speaker 2: maybe Floyd Mayweather slam dunk to be high up on

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Speaker 2: this list, you know, while he was in his prime.

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Speaker 2: You know, you could argue a lot of fighters at

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Speaker 2: certain points, including Connor McGregor, would have been arguably number

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Speaker 2: one on this list, just for the fact that if

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Speaker 2: they show up any where, you're moving an incredible amount

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Speaker 2: of live gain and pay per view you know, cost

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: and all that. I mean, it's it's money everywhere. So

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Speaker 2: are you surprised that my list and that we don't

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01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 2: have fighters in the power position right now?

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 1: Well, no, who would it be? Canelo's arguably the most

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: popular guy in boxing. I mean, there's Gervonte Davis up there,

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: but then like whoever it is is so commensurate with

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: him that it wouldn't qualify. And on the MMA side,

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, please be serious, the only guy who have

1303
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: a name that could even potentially even be useful in

1304
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: that regarded to be Connor, and his brand has declined substantially.

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01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: So no, there wouldn't be a fighter. But certainly we've

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01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: lived in eras to the point you raise who've lived

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01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: in eras where the fighters would be on the list,

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01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: just not this one.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, all right, what you got Luke?

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01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: All right? For mine, we can move through this relatively quickly.

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Speaker 1: For number five, go ahead and put it up on

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: the screen. I have a three way tieh Hern De

1313
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: la Hoya and Hayman and the reason you could probably

1314
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: make it four way tie. Put Frank Warren in there,

1315
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: however you want to do it.

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 2: But no respect for Grandpa.

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01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: Come on, well, I sort of see I sort of

1318
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: see these guys, these these De la Hoya is still

1319
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: putting on relevant fights, so is match Room, and you

1320
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: could put in I wouldn't put air MBC. Who's who's

1321
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: like really the guy at top rank.

1322
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: Well, Todd De Buff's son in law is sort of

1323
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: kind of running things behund the scenes. But they've got

1324
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: an all star team from Brad Jacobs to Calmar.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't know who had to identify. It's basically

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01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: that tier of promoter. And then collectively all of them

1327
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: are doing the kinds of things where they're getting new

1328
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: television deals or trying to go back to old partners,

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01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 1: or doing deals with Saudi Arabia, or trying to keep

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Speaker 1: the American market alive in the UK market to an extent,

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Speaker 1: depending on who you're talking about that tier of promoter.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say they're all the same, but I

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: do believe that as we're ranking power, they do belong

1334
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: in the same tier of power in that particular sense,

1335
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: and they're all in different ways kind of doing or

1336
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: fulfilling a similar purpose within the fight itself, obviously to promoters,

1337
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: but more than that from a wielding power and influence standpoint.

1338
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: So I kind of grouped them all in one go.

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: All right.

1340
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Speaker 2: I would quibble with dal La Hoya, although he could

1341
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: still make big fights, being that he's Ryan Garcia's promoter

1342
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: and that he's willing to work with everyone. Also, he's

1343
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 2: a big personality that can sell it. I just don't

1344
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: know if he has the stable to keep him in

1345
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: the control here. Eddie Hearn is a much more seemingly

1346
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: connected powerful figure.

1347
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: From hern Definitely, yes, But I get.

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Speaker 2: The point you're trying to say here that the even

1349
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: though some of these promoters are still relying upon riads's

1350
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 2: and money to do really big things. I've always liked

1351
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: that Eddie just flexed his muscles instead of Turkey goes

1352
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 2: away tomorrow. I still feel like I'm the best promoter

1353
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 2: in the game.

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: It's not to say they're all equivalent. It's to say

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01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: that again, from a power structure, I don't know that

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: one is necessarily wielding a significantly more influence over the

1357
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: industry than the other. Okay, that's number five, number four,

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Speaker 1: put it up on the list here, Dana White. Now

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: you might be surprised by me saying that. And here's

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01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: why I'm going to say number four for Dana White. BC.

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01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: We just talked about how Hunter Campbell is the guy

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01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: who's actually doing the bulk of the work that Dana

1363
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: and Slash Lorenzo once did and none of that really changes.

1364
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: But which you have to understand something is the position

1365
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: to which we have arrived. And we have arrived at

1366
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 1: a place where the takeover that Dana White and again

1367
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: Lorenzo and then the whole UFC team from previous eras

1368
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: and to an extent fulfilled by this one as well.

1369
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Speaker 2: Joe Silva too.

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: Shout him out, Joe Silva as well. For sure that

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01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: they defined the terms of how MMA exists. Right, they

1372
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 1: beat out all these other competitors. That was driven by

1373
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: a vision to do exactly that, to be exactly as

1374
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: big as they are. The way in which they have

1375
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: a relationship that's adversarial to the media, the way in

1376
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: which you know that they have just come to make

1377
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:55,959
Speaker 1: large and small business decisions about the way their business functions,

1378
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: that has defined how the industry more broadly functioned. We

1379
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 1: are swimming in the soup that they have all made.

1380
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, Dana is not necessarily day to

1381
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: day getting out there and driving those kinds of factors

1382
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: of influence in the way that he once did. But

1383
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 1: my point is is so much of all of how

1384
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: we understand and interface with MMA is defined by the

1385
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: vision and the relentless pursuit of it by Dana White,

1386
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: that you couldn't even extract ourselves from it, like it

1387
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: would take years and years to undo it. That's how

1388
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: baked in that it is. And so for that reason,

1389
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: I actually still have them pretty high on the list.

1390
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: For just for the record, he would have been number

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01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: six on my list. It's hard to keep him out

1392
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: of it. But the factors that we talked about in

1393
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: terms of Hunter Campbell's role, I do sort of subtract

1394
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 2: that from Dana's one time power. But he's also teasing

1395
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 2: and getting into boxing, although again, who knows what's gonna

1396
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,759
Speaker 2: happen with that? So he's when he speaks, people still

1397
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 2: listen and largely believe it, Luke, even if they have

1398
01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 2: proof to not do it.

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01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, the thing is like, the thing is, I'm

1400
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 1: like dismissing power, slap. I don't care about any of that.

1401
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: You know, again, we'll see what happens with TKO. He

1402
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 1: might get back. Oh I'm sorry with with with Turkey

1403
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: and if not Canella Crawford, you know, subsequent fights. There's

1404
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 1: still a lot more as a promoter he can contribute.

1405
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not really even weighing in on that.

1406
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, if you saw MMA in a

1407
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: world where Dana White had to share power with other

1408
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: promoters and share space with other promoters, you can't help

1409
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: but notice the way that it looks now and you

1410
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: can like those changes or you cannot. Again, there's a

1411
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: whole debate about that, But the question of how MMA

1412
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: functions today is heavily heavily defined by the actions that

1413
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: UFC has undertaken under his leadership, not just more recently

1414
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: but really since you know, two thousand and three.

1415
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: But it seems like me putting out Hayman at four

1416
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: is maybe pushing two back on too hard back on history.

1417
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 2: Maybe the same I could say about Dana unless you

1418
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 2: look at it like this, even if you're trying to

1419
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 2: diminish data at this exact moment to being more influencer

1420
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 2: than Boss, he's a pretty damn big influencer for all

1421
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 2: things UFC and by extension, mixed martial arts. And by

1422
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: the way, he's like that with the President, which matters

1423
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: when you see the direction of things in recent years.

1424
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 2: So that's a pretty big influence.

1425
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty big influence. Again, you can debate it, you

1426
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: can put a different few places, but I feel comfortable

1427
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: putting on the list, all right. Number three, and this

1428
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: is where we get to the real heart of the

1429
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: list here. Number three Hunter Campbell, like UBC, hard to

1430
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: overstate exactly how important he is to the brand. We've

1431
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 1: been over this. The guy doing the deals, the guy

1432
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: making the moves, the guy just kind of doing the

1433
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 1: things that Daniel Lorenzo once did. I I'm not going

1434
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: to beat a dead horse, but he had to be

1435
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: number three on my list to BC. I don't for

1436
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: anything else to add at this point, but I also

1437
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 1: recognize extremely important figure.

1438
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should get him on the show.

1439
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd love to come and just talk to

1440
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: us about all of the decisions he's made. All right,

1441
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: number two, This is where I think we started to

1442
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,879
Speaker 1: have some difference. I'm gonna put Turkey number two. Everything

1443
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 1: you mentioned BC about what he's doing and the takeover

1444
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: that he's initiated, I couldn't challenge any of it. It's

1445
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: just where you categorize it. But certainly, if he's not

1446
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: number one, that he would have to be number two.

1447
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: He could not be number three. I don't know. I

1448
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 1: don't know who would be if he's not, you know

1449
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, who would you put between him

1450
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: that would that would even make sense. I don't even

1451
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: know who that could possibly be. The guy defining the

1452
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: terms of how boxing works today in large part and

1453
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: potentially might define how it goes for the rest of

1454
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: our lifetimes.

1455
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: Huh.

1456
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: He could. He could fall flat on his face, But

1457
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: what he's attempting is that that is what he is attempting.

1458
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 2: He can have a role in boxing, and a lot

1459
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 2: of it could be good. I don't need this guy

1460
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: controlling boxing with iron fists.

1461
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: You better hope, but he might. I mean, that's what

1462
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: he's they're not attempting some you know, lighthearted Oh, we

1463
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 1: want to be on the Council of you know, advisors. No, no, no,

1464
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: they want to be the Council of Advisers. They might

1465
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 1: want to get it right.

1466
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 2: They are the ones that's actually you know.

1467
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: But I've got number one. I've got different and I

1468
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: put it this way for a reason. And I'll explain

1469
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: why I've got Ari Emmanuel. The reason why I put

1470
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: him number one BC is Turkey gets a lot of media. Rightfully, he's,

1471
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: as we just indicated, either one or two depending on

1472
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 1: the list. But I want to think about something here.

1473
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: Ari Emanuel goes on the I think the beginning of

1474
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: this year, at the end of last year on the

1475
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee show and makes cryptic comments about the Ali Act. Okay, now,

1476
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't imagine that a Ari is in any way

1477
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: involved with the day to day about what UFC is doing.

1478
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: And you know whether or not you know Morob is

1479
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: you know fighting on Newark or the Chicago event, like

1480
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: he's not thinking about it in those terms, but just

1481
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: on the boxing side alone. Forget about the fact that

1482
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 1: this guy is basically in charge of everything. But just

1483
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: just ignore the MMA side. They want to change the

1484
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: ALI Act to give themselves not in all parts of it,

1485
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: but they want to basically change the portion of the

1486
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: language that will enable them to hold their own titles.

1487
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: And the reason why they want to do that, of course,

1488
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 1: is to have market dominance and potentially even monopolization over

1489
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: boxing if they get that. Again, these are big ifs.

1490
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 1: Even if they get the law change, can they actually

1491
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: seek out that worldview and and make it all happen.

1492
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 1: There's a lot of unknowns about it, but let's just

1493
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: assume that they actually, I mean, they're not there again.

1494
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: Why are they change again? Why are they? Why are

1495
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: they desiring to change federal law because they want to

1496
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,839
Speaker 1: make it easier for their competitors. Is that what everyone

1497
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: thinks because they just fucking you know, woke up from

1498
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: a coma. No, they want to do it. They want

1499
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: to do it because they want to have control. It's

1500
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 1: what the mo is of everything the UFC has done

1501
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: since the moment that it had been taken over by

1502
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 1: zoofa leadership, And this of course is just a natural

1503
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: extension of it, paired with Ari Emmanuel's vision for you know,

1504
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: corporate control as well. That's what this all comes down to.

1505
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: That's what that that that that's the game that that's

1506
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:04,480
Speaker 1: a level of takeover that I didn't even know was possible.

1507
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 1: I had not even contemplated it is. It would redefine

1508
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 1: how you understand boxing and what it could even be

1509
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lifetimes if they're potentially potentially,

1510
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: if they're successful. For that reason, among any other one

1511
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: I could pick, you've got to put Ari at the

1512
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: top of the list. Changing how the rules of the

1513
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: game work is next level powerful and.

1514
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 2: Just you know, you can add in the ability to

1515
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 2: take an athlete from UFC, put him in the crowd,

1516
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: in the front row on rown SmackDown right like things

1517
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: like that, the connectivity between Hollywood and everything. Yeah, Ari's

1518
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,400
Speaker 2: up there. It's either Ari or Turkey, there's no question.

1519
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 2: Look quickly on potential honorable mentions are people that we

1520
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: mixed missed. We didn't put Don Davis on there for

1521
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. I do agree that I said earlier that

1522
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: in a previous era it would easily be Connor, Canelo,

1523
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: Floyd whomever. A year ago, would you have put Francis

1524
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 2: and Gano here because he's doing he could do big

1525
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: boxing pay per view, made events big UFC ones. He

1526
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 2: worked his way out of a UFC deal for this

1527
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: insane PFL deal, while he's also taken big money in

1528
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 2: from Saudia in boxing or would you limit that?

1529
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. I mean, I probably would be

1530
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: a little bit cautious about putting him on that list,

1531
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: not to say that he wouldn't be doing really and

1532
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:35,879
Speaker 1: did big things and something of a pioneer for athlete

1533
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: rights to a degree, or certainly a risk taker, but

1534
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 1: because of the nature of the contracts that the UFC

1535
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: has and that they changed following his departure right around

1536
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: that time anyway, certainly to prevent you know, they make

1537
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: you sign a waiver you won't participate in the class

1538
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: action lawsuit, and you know the ways in which they

1539
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: add tolling provisions to your contract and taking out that

1540
01:16:57,880 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: sunset clause and all that stuff, are changing this on

1541
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: cy clause. I should say, you can't really get that

1542
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: at scale, right, You can't really get that kind of thing.

1543
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he showed everyone something that they could do.

1544
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 1: He did something for himself that was big and symbolic,

1545
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: but ultimately not a at scale alteration of the way

1546
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: the business operates.

1547
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: Len Bovatnik of his own simply because they've got you know,

1548
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 2: a lot of boxing on there or.

1549
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: No not fuck no. If anything, they're a contributor to boxing,

1550
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: Well that's not right. They're not a contributor to boxing's decline,

1551
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 1: but they're not helping.

1552
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like the back in the day, the

1553
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 2: head of HBO would be on this list, but that

1554
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 2: times changed, all right, quickly, Look, if we're talking about

1555
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 2: the actual faces of the sport and how we think

1556
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 2: the public perceives that to be, who do you think

1557
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,839
Speaker 2: right now is the current face of boxing?

1558
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: I struggled with this one because when I came to

1559
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: the conclusion, I'm like, really, it's this guy. But then

1560
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: when you think about if it's not him, who would

1561
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: it be, and you're like, well, I don't think there

1562
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: is a better one. So Canelo Alvarez to me is

1563
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: the face of boxing. I I'm surprised by that because

1564
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: he's been really letting the fans down for a number

1565
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: of years at this point, and that last one, the

1566
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: last fight against William's School in Saudi Arabia was a

1567
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 1: true Jesus depressing kind of fight, but it's not Jake Paul,

1568
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: it's not Gervonte Davis.

1569
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it's Turkey because I don't think that

1570
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 2: the general public knows.

1571
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: General public Again, this is what does the public perceive.

1572
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 1: I think Canelo's the guy.

1573
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 2: He still is, and I don't think it's it's definitely

1574
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 2: on the public's mind that he's ducking Benavitez or that

1575
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 2: he you know, hasn't been overly challenging himself. He still

1576
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: can fill out an arena in Las Vegas to full

1577
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 2: capacity against anybody on and do you know, good pay

1578
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: per view numbers. Still, I think he's at His brand

1579
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: is never at the most. It's the most challenge and

1580
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: it's been because of that School fight, because even the

1581
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: weirdness surrounding this whole uh you know, Crawford fight and

1582
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 2: what happened there. But he's still got to be the face.

1583
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 2: I agree with you on that. Do we agree on Mma, Luke?

1584
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,839
Speaker 2: It's still Dana White. They have completely programmed for years

1585
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: him to be the face of the operation. I think,

1586
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: you know, obviously twenty fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, even eighteen, you

1587
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 2: could argue, you know, that's Connor McGregor the face of

1588
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: MMA in everyone's eyes, no question about it. Was it

1589
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: Rousey at one point, was it lesnaror you know, you

1590
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 2: can insert the names. But the person that's been the

1591
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 2: most and still is is Dana White, no question about it.

1592
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with that. I don't know who else

1593
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: you can say, dude, you can even make you can

1594
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: make an argument that the face of MMA is Donald Trump.

1595
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's a little strong. Obviously I wouldn't go

1596
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: that far, but it's not that far. But if it's

1597
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: not him, it's definitely Dana White. Dude. The biggest star

1598
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: are the biggest name, the just synonymous with the brand.

1599
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: The guy who's the media outreach guy to take something

1600
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: that he still does any the podcast circuit guy, the

1601
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:16,000
Speaker 1: influencer circuit guy, he's on the board of Meta. I mean, yeah, good.

1602
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Who is more popular as an MMA figure than Dana

1603
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: White in MMA? I have no fucking idea.

1604
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: Maybe at Zuck for that time that he helped Volkanovski

1605
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 2: lose the title in the corner. Maybe that guy Luke.

1606
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: That is our three topics for this week and now

1607
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: to continue to fill fun time and play around with

1608
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: the news cycle, we've dipped back into the MK bag

1609
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,679
Speaker 2: of tricks. This one's called call me crazy. Yeah wow,

1610
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: hell of an animation there, separation. But Luke, if you

1611
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 2: forgot already call me crazy? Is BC putting out seven

1612
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: opinions out there on combat sports that may be a

1613
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: little leedgy, maybe a reach. It's up to you, Luke,

1614
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 2: call me crazy or am I onto something here? Number

1615
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: one during an inn what have you? On the BCX

1616
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: last week with Eddie Hearn, the famed match Room promoter,

1617
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: I was given him crap for the July eleventh Katie

1618
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 2: Taylor Amanda Serrano trilogy still being under what I would

1619
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 2: call the archaic old school women's boxing rules of ten

1620
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: rounds two minute rounds, even though you can argue that

1621
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 2: the sport needs to evolve from that. I did pressure him.

1622
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: I expected him to give me a fake answer, because

1623
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 2: why Taylor, his fighter benefits based on her style from

1624
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 2: this system. His answer was interesting, though, Let's listen in.

1625
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 3: There's a couple of things on that. Number one is

1626
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,839
Speaker 3: I've actually watched a few twelve three minute round fights

1627
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 3: recently in women's boxing. Amanda Serrano was in one much

1628
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 3: more boring if I'm honest, like, don't get.

1629
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: It wrong, and they weren't.

1630
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 3: They weren't elite. Sorry, they weren't quite Taya Serrano, but

1631
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 3: they were still world championship fights. When when Serrano box

1632
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 3: free minute rounds, it wasn't as fun to watch. I've

1633
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 3: always felt that as a product, ten two's really suited

1634
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 3: the growth of women's boxing because it's all action. It's

1635
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 3: great to watch, they throw so many punches.

1636
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 2: Things just change a little bit now, Luke. You could

1637
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: again certainly argue that's just protecting Taylor. But here's the thing.

1638
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:26,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is the most progressive thing I

1639
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: can say, but considering what Eddie just said, and considering

1640
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 2: the apathy that is currently being had for all things

1641
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: women's MMA, where people are pointing out lower skill sets,

1642
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,799
Speaker 2: boring fights, blah blah blah. Call me crazy, but moving

1643
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: female UFC fights to three minute rounds as a trial

1644
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: moving forward could or maybe even would greatly increase the

1645
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 2: entertainment level, even if it's not the most progressive thing,

1646
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:56,480
Speaker 2: and it could be a win win for everyone.

1647
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: Essentially, what the claim is here is if you just

1648
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: be KFC women's boxing, it becomes better. That's the claim, right,

1649
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, not exactly right, you're not standing toe to toe.

1650
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: It's not bare knuckle, but short in the time, shortened

1651
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: the number of rounds to make everything a sprint. This

1652
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: is essentially the claim, right number one. To make a

1653
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: claim like that, you would need a broader set of data,

1654
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 1: not Eddie's anecdotal experience. That's not nearly a sufficient basis

1655
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 1: by which to make any kind of conclusion. Could be true,

1656
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: could be very well be true. But what I actually

1657
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: think is a bigger problem, and I mentioned this the

1658
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: number of times, is I actually would make the gloves

1659
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: a little bit smaller and women's excuse me, women's boxing.

1660
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: I actually think that playing with the round time is

1661
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: exactly what you should not do. You should have the

1662
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: rules uniform in that regard, but you should make the

1663
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 1: gloves a little bit smaller to make the power punching

1664
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: a little bit more significant. Actually think I don't think three.

1665
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: Minute rounds would push them to push the offense more.

1666
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: I think in certain cases it absolutely could. The question

1667
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: is does it do that? More broadly, what does the

1668
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: data actually show? And then also, like you know, just

1669
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: making women fight sprints because you're worried about them being

1670
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: boring seems like you need to question the premises of

1671
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 1: what goes into making a calculation like that. To begin with,

1672
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it can't be true, but see this

1673
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: is this sounds like I'm making a broad declaration of like, oh,

1674
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:15,520
Speaker 1: it's not true. What I'm saying is to make decisions

1675
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: like this, you need to have good information. Good information

1676
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: lets you make good decisions. It lets you to quite

1677
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: literally make an informed decision. I don't know what the

1678
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: broader set of information is that you can judge it

1679
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 1: on Eddie's saying this. This is where Eddie becomes a

1680
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: really interesting promoter from ABC, because in all likelihood, what

1681
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,839
Speaker 1: he is saying is just cover for his his fighter

1682
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: in Taylor. However, because he's smart enough, he finds a

1683
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: clever way that makes you really think about the way

1684
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 1: things work in order to see if what he's saying

1685
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: is bullshit or not. And it may not be at all,

1686
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: it's still nakedly what it is, but he's clever enough

1687
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: to make it a bigger issue you know that is

1688
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: worth having some discussion. This is why I actually kind

1689
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: of like Eddie as a promoter. He's full of shit

1690
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 1: like they all are, but he's smart enough to do

1691
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 1: it in a very interesting way, which is why I

1692
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 1: kind of like him.

1693
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 2: All Right, you're not buying on the on the bra.

1694
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: I could be I could be sold. I could be sold.

1695
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,480
Speaker 1: You need better information.

1696
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: All right. Number two call me crazy here, Luke. Former

1697
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, the thirty six year old posted

1698
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 2: a video from his family vacation in Como, Italy. We

1699
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: thought it was to announce a fight. Turns out it

1700
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: was the exact opposite.

1701
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 6: Listening good morning people, but if you hear off the balcony,

1702
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 6: absolutely stunning here in Coma stunning.

1703
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 1: This morning.

1704
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 6: I hear a lot of talk of the Gypsy King

1705
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,720
Speaker 6: returning to boxing, and I asked the question of this

1706
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,799
Speaker 6: one for what what would I return for? More boxing belts?

1707
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 6: One twenty two of them. I've been rumped. That's it,

1708
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 6: fair play to one they've had to use for me.

1709
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 6: But I'm happy. I'm happy, contenting with what I've done,

1710
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 6: what I've achieved, what I've accomplished, been around the world

1711
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 6: and back again, and here we are. This is what

1712
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 6: retirement looks like for the Gypsy King. Not too shabby,

1713
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 6: I mean, no rush at all to come back boxing.

1714
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 6: Get me face punched in for what What would I

1715
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 6: return for?

1716
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: I asked that question.

1717
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,639
Speaker 6: So here we are. I'm retired and I'm staying retired.

1718
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 6: I've got nothing to prove to anybody and nothing to

1719
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 6: return for. God bless you all, see you on the

1720
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 6: other side. Like I said earlier, Utah now Luke.

1721
01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 2: Sportico reported that Furi was the highest highest paid boxer

1722
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, making one hundred and forty seven million,

1723
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: with one hundred and forty of that from the two

1724
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: fight persons against Usik, which is insane. But Fury's already

1725
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: retired and come back about five times already, as many

1726
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 2: famous boxers have. Call me crazy, Luke, but this first

1727
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: ballot of Hall of Famer, there's a zero point zero,

1728
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: zero zero one percent chance that he doesn't retire for

1729
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 2: good without first fighting British fellow British legend Anthony Joshua.

1730
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: And I'll also add in if Dubois betso sick in

1731
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 2: their rematch, this guy's going to be back on the

1732
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 2: phone looking for a chance at the heavyweight championship.

1733
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Come on, I don't think you're crazy. I think that's

1734
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 1: exactly right. However, I just want to say BC if

1735
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: I made one hundred and forty seven million in a year,

1736
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 1: you would never see me again.

1737
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: I want to hear from me.

1738
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: I want to see it one hundred clear. I absolutely

1739
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 1: would never say goodbye. I would never do a sign off.

1740
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: I would just close this computer and I would leave,

1741
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: and you'd never hear from me again.

1742
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't believe him. He's not he's not.

1743
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: He's not, he's not. He's not staying away, Luke.

1744
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: He'll come back, but only for something with a ton

1745
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: of money. That doesn't matter if he wins or loses

1746
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1747
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 2: I think he wants to fight Joshua. He wants to

1748
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: be considered the greatest British heavyweight of all time. I

1749
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 2: think that's something that like he wants to have on

1750
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 2: his resume. That's my opinion.

1751
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: I think if I had that kind of money, I

1752
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't give the slightest degree of fucks all.

1753
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: Right, number three, Luke. During a recent interview on the

1754
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: h JR Podcast, sitting next to one Rampage Jackson, Nate

1755
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: Diaz produced a shocking reveal about a near Hollywood turn

1756
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: Let's watch I was supposed to do. Connor McGregor is

1757
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: part in uh Roadhouse, right, Yeah, that was my part.

1758
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm not fighting. I'm not going

1759
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 2: there and losing a fight.

1760
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: I've seen the original Rhoe, so I'm the main bad

1761
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: guy I'm supposed to fight.

1762
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Who's Who's Patrick Swayzee then?

1763
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: And they said it was Jake Jileh.

1764
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 5: I'm I ain't going to no movie and losing in

1765
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,639
Speaker 5: No Broke Bag Mountain, I'm good.

1766
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 4: That was the best meme where it said man broke

1767
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 4: Back Mountain two is lit and it shows like Connor

1768
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 4: on top of Jason.

1769
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: I said, I can't see, I can't do it gives

1770
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1771
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: Nobody. I think you need to get into the weed business.

1772
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 2: Luke, first of all, call me crazy. No Hollywood producers

1773
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 2: putting him into speaking role, but he guys would also

1774
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: say this week that he hopes to make a UFC

1775
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: return soon, and he identifies a Connor McGregor trilogy, a

1776
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 2: Max Holloway BMF title fight, or a lightweight title fight

1777
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:07,599
Speaker 2: against Ilia Taporia as his preferences. Call me crazy, Luke,

1778
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the forty year old nads can be

1779
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: any big name in the octagon anymore that is not

1780
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: named Conor McGregor.

1781
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy at all. Am I understanding

1782
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 1: that's right because Jake Gillenhall played a gay dude in

1783
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: a movie once. What he couldn't be in a fight? Yeah,

1784
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 1: and he's like perfectly straight as okay, I mean, fuck me, Bro,

1785
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: what are we doing?

1786
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, Let's go to the next one. Twenty

1787
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 2: year old boxing heavyweight phenom. Moses Etama improved it.

1788
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:36,879
Speaker 1: This motherfucker is awesome.

1789
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 2: Bro twelve and zero with ten Ko Saturday by blowing

1790
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 2: out twenty one to one Mike Blogan in less than

1791
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,440
Speaker 2: two rounds. Even though he has just surpassed Mike Tyson's

1792
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 2: official age of twenty years four months, so he won't

1793
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: have a chance of becoming the youngest heavyweight champion in history.

1794
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: He's being called the best heavyweight prospect we've seen in

1795
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 2: a long time, and some people are comparing him to

1796
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,799
Speaker 2: the impact Tom Aspinall has on the UFCS everyweight division

1797
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 2: because he's a south Paul with speed, combinations and big power. Luke,

1798
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 2: with the exception of back to back six round decision

1799
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:11,160
Speaker 2: wins in his third and fourth pro fight, he's knocked

1800
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: everyone out within two rounds. Many would love for him

1801
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 2: to face Martin Bacoli next. Baccoley was in the crowd

1802
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 2: and said this, Oh he's.

1803
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 10: Got beautiful now, He's got beautiful future up before him.

1804
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 10: I want him to build up his career like he did.

1805
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 10: But to pick Martin Baccola now, I think it's too

1806
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 10: early for him. I want him to work hard and

1807
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 10: uh maybe deal will champion tomorrow. But I don't want

1808
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 10: him to pick me now because he's making a big mistake.

1809
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 10: It's play with the fire now is a man If

1810
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 10: you think it can handle me, I'm up into it.

1811
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 2: Look, I get the warning from Bacoli, but call me crazy.

1812
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 2: There's a potential scenario in which Bacoli doesn't even make

1813
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: it their six full rounds against a tom Off they

1814
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: fought next.

1815
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I don't think that they should

1816
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 1: make that fight because Moses needs a little bit more.

1817
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 1: He's still got some issues to work on. But dude,

1818
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: he he looks like the real deal Holy Field, he

1819
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 1: does he not literally? I mean I'm using it as

1820
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:16,959
Speaker 1: a dude. Most is the tauma is in MMA or boxing,

1821
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: the most exciting heavyweight prospect in the world.

1822
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: Wow, Now, I would play his who would have been

1823
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 2: but him? No, you're right, and I would play chere

1824
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,400
Speaker 2: Zone would would copyright us. But dude, his check hooks

1825
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 2: as his opponents are coming after him. That's what I'm saying.

1826
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 2: Because Baccoli is known for taking punishment and then walking

1827
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,280
Speaker 2: you down as like fear and fatigue sets in. I

1828
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 2: don't even think Becoley would get to that point because

1829
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: I think he'd be getting lit up by a tauma.

1830
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 2: He's special, Luke. It took me a while to really

1831
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 2: want to bite into how special he was with all

1832
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: that hype. Watch the tape. Yeah, he hasn't beaten a

1833
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 2: ton of world beaters yet, although he did face former

1834
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 2: title challenger Marius Walk and blew him out in two rounds.

1835
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 2: But uh, dude, I'm I'm in now. This guy's absolutely

1836
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 2: fire legit. I mean, dude, would you like to see

1837
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: him against Tyson Fury one day in a passing of

1838
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 2: the of the torch of British heavyweights? That could be wild? Right?

1839
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, I don't know how that's timing

1840
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: is gonna work. But let's just keep him busy. Let's

1841
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: focus on that.

1842
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: All right. Number five, Luke, Manol Farrel took to IG

1843
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 2: to deliver her first public commentation shit since losing her

1844
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 2: women's flywaight title to valentin at UFC three fifteen. One

1845
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,920
Speaker 2: of the quotes that she said was, it's far from over.

1846
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 2: We're going to do this. The dream is alive. Nothing

1847
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:33,799
Speaker 2: is lost. This is just one chapter, Luke. Call me crazy.

1848
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: But even though she's thirty five and coming off of

1849
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 2: a very close defeat and considering how close she was

1850
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 2: to stealing round five from Valentina and taking a decision

1851
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 2: in a fight she lost forty eight to forty seven

1852
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,719
Speaker 2: on all three scorecards, call me crazy if you're still

1853
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 2: the second best flyweight in the world, and I think

1854
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: she ends up becoming champion in early twenty twenty six.

1855
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Think about it, she came back from getting her nose

1856
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 2: savaged in round one.

1857
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 1: You're not crazy. You're not crazy. I hadn't put much

1858
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 1: thought into it, because you know, why would I. But

1859
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: now that you say it this way, I mean, let's

1860
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: see what happens between Barbara and Blanchefield. I know that

1861
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: Blanchveald fought and okay, but like you know, let's see

1862
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: what happens. But you might be right. I can see

1863
01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: that she.

1864
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: Just has a way of She doesn't take huge damage,

1865
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean outside of the first round when she was

1866
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 2: getting lit up by the right hand from Jeff Jenco

1867
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 2: in the left crosses. But she does have a way

1868
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: to hang in there and make it a technical battle,

1869
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 2: which favors her. She's physically imposing, She's got an improving

1870
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 2: takedown defence. I just don't think, even though there's very

1871
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,519
Speaker 2: good fighters at one twenty five, are any of them

1872
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,080
Speaker 2: killers that are going to take it from her, or

1873
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 2: take it from Valentina for that matter. I don't think so.

1874
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 1: I thought there would have been by now, but I've

1875
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,880
Speaker 1: slept on Chevchenko enough to just shut my mouth about it.

1876
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 1: I believe it when I see it. I believe it

1877
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: when I see.

1878
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 2: It, Luke. Despite being forty six years old, active since

1879
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, and winless since twenty nineteen, Manny Pakiao

1880
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 2: is just a plus three point forty betting underdog according

1881
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 2: to DraftKings, to defeat WBC Walterway champion and thirty year

1882
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 2: old Mario Barrios when they meet on July nineteenth. Many experts,

1883
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,839
Speaker 2: including Chris al Jerry in a recent Boxing Scenes story,

1884
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 2: believe there is a legitimate path to victory for the

1885
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 2: pac Man. Call me crazy, but by already holding boxing's

1886
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 2: mail record for the titles in most divisions with eight.

1887
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 2: If Pacquiao becomes a world champion at forty six after

1888
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,840
Speaker 2: this long of a layoff, we may need to re

1889
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: examine the whole debate between him and Floyd Mayweather as

1890
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 2: to who has had the best career had to head

1891
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: despite the fact that we did see them in twenty

1892
01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 2: fifteen when they were thirty eight and thirty six years old, respectively,

1893
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 2: and that typically is the decider in close debates like this.

1894
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna have to have that discussion

1895
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 2: if this happens. That's insane history to add on to

1896
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,480
Speaker 2: everything else he has accomplished.

1897
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Hey, that's not gonna happen. And b I, you know,

1898
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:06,880
Speaker 1: do you think you can win a boxing title at

1899
01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: forty six given what he's been through? Drug free?

1900
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 11: No?

1901
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 2: Right, I don't think anybody's drug free in the blast you.

1902
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 1: Need to do, I need to do I But like

1903
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 1: it's always one of those things where you have to

1904
01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:21,320
Speaker 1: understand the terms of the conversation. He's I mean, I

1905
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: saw him in Rising PC and he looked terrible. He

1906
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 1: looked terrible.

1907
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 2: He didn't train for that he fought against. He fought

1908
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 2: at one sixty against a guy that I'm told he

1909
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: thought was gonna take it easy on him, and that

1910
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 2: guy came to win and jumped on him. I'm not

1911
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 2: going to defend him. I mean, the way he looked

1912
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 2: in that fight.

1913
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: Marios is beatable. We know that. Like I'm not saying

1914
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,640
Speaker 1: Marios is some fucking, you know, amazing fighter, but uh,

1915
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: pak looked like shit.

1916
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: Isn't whether he wins. The argument is if he does win,

1917
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: is there like the question is is there anything left

1918
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,720
Speaker 2: he could accomplish that coul put him above Mayweather all time.

1919
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: You're kind of treating it like a George Foreman Michael

1920
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: Moore moment. It doesn't feel that way to me.

1921
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. It feels a little to some day.

1922
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: I got you, all right? One more for you, Luke

1923
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: tom Aspinall reposted on Instagram the online petition to strip

1924
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 2: John Jones of the UFC title, which.

1925
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: I thought about this. I didn't do it, but I

1926
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 1: thought about it.

1927
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 2: It now has over eighty thousand signatures on change dot org.

1928
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 2: Call me crazy, but John Jones if he should ultimately

1929
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: ghost the UFC and fuck up everything from the heavyweight

1930
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: division to Aspinall's prime by carrying out the soap opera

1931
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 2: without fighting Tom to close the year, there's still a

1932
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: potential silver lining Tom Aspinall versus Francis and gan who

1933
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:48,719
Speaker 2: is actually a much better MMA fight than Aspinall versus Jones.

1934
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 2: And I know, not crazy here, not crazy. No, it

1935
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 2: doesn't have the history of having Jones involved, but it's

1936
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: a much better MMA fight.

1937
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Yes, the Jones fight is a bigger fight, no question

1938
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: about it. And by the way, it could be a

1939
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: fine fight, great fight too, Like it's not an either

1940
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: or question. And also I want to point out if

1941
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: Francis was still around, even if Jones was still playing

1942
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 1: all of the same fuck fuck games that he's playing now,

1943
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it wouldn't matter, but we could

1944
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: have had Aspinall and Ganu by this point anyway, potentially

1945
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 1: even a couple of times. Right, that's what we're missing

1946
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 1: here too. I want everyone to be aware one more

1947
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: time for the dumb fos in the industry or like, hey,

1948
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: let's remake that Miochic fight, even though we gotta get

1949
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: out of jail free card when he got injured. Salute

1950
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: to that shit. Just the dumbest thinking ever ever. But

1951
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 1: putting that aside, yeah, dude, these two are gonna absolutely

1952
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 1: get after it. Could Aspinall land on Francis in a

1953
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,680
Speaker 1: similar way to what Joshua did. I'm not saying he

1954
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 1: is joshuaare has that kind of power, but you know,

1955
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: we know he's got the ability to cover this very

1956
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 1: quickly and he hits extremely hard. Could that be the

1957
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 1: case or could someone finally crack the chin of someone

1958
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: who leaves it up in the air the like like

1959
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: Aspinall does. I mean, I don't know. It would be

1960
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: a long fight, BC, but it would be probably you know,

1961
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 1: high tension until it was resolved, and like the chaos

1962
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 1: quotient could make it so much more interesting. I will say, though,

1963
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:28,200
Speaker 1: the capacity for that fight to have the jones Aspinall fight,

1964
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 1: the capacity for that fight to have a slow build

1965
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 1: over time, it seems stronger because John's gonna want to

1966
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 1: drag it out, I think a little bit. And for

1967
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 1: that reason, you might get a little bit more drama,

1968
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get absolute you know, insanity with Aspal

1969
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:46,679
Speaker 1: and Ghana.

1970
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,640
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this in a world if this

1971
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 2: happened where John Jones at the end said, sorry, guys,

1972
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 2: not going to do it. I'm fine. I'm enjoying Thailand.

1973
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,160
Speaker 2: I love being in a pool full of dagistan men.

1974
01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:01,640
Speaker 2: If that was the case, Luke I looked up in

1975
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 2: Ghana's contract the best I could from the information we have.

1976
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 2: It's not based upon fights, it's based upon time. Right,

1977
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 2: He's only fault once in the PFL. I don't know

1978
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 2: if the PFL is going to be here in a year,

1979
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,640
Speaker 2: and haven't We don't know a lot of things. But

1980
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 2: if Jones screws YOUFC, is there any way in your

1981
01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 2: eyes that the combination of Hunter and Ari could overrule

1982
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Dana's grudges and that there would be an olive branch

1983
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 2: put forth to Anghanu if he becomes free agent, that

1984
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: this could even happen, and would they be motivated to

1985
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 2: want to make it happen.

1986
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that this is a

1987
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Paul some text daily situation.

1988
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 2: He's out, all right, that's it, it is there, it

1989
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 2: is okay, and that's done for our special segment. Call

1990
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 2: me crazy. It could be the last time that you

1991
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 2: ever see it. Now. We go to the fans every

1992
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 2: Sunday night at morning combat on IG and X. We

1993
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 2: give you the opportunity to ask us questions, and maybe Tuesday,

1994
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 2: but it's still time to hear from you. This one's

1995
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: called DMS from the Dogs. Dude, they got rid of

1996
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 2: the masturbating donkey.

1997
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: Do you hear that I did? Would you think it's better?

1998
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know this was called Long Island Luke, so

1999
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 1: see it again. Still a little hawking personally.

2000
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 4: I like the old one, but uh yeah, we got

2001
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 4: a new one.

2002
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll take it. Our first questions from

2003
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Eric Bolden. Will Sean O'Malley move up to one for

2004
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 2: if he loses on June seventh, easier way to the

2005
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:40,480
Speaker 2: title and good stylistic matchups for him.

2006
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I think that's a very reasonable possibility. What's if you

2007
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 1: lose twice to Morob? What are you supposed to do

2008
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 1: at that point?

2009
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 2: You're supposed to fight Vulk for the title at one?

2010
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly?

2011
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 2: All right? Do that? Please? Let's go. Let's go second

2012
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 2: question here, No, I agree, and I think do you

2013
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 2: think because he's wiry and tall that he could fill

2014
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 2: into that weight and be good at that weight, Cliff, I.

2015
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 1: Think he's gonna struggle with wrestlers and that division to

2016
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 1: the extent that he runs into him. But there's not

2017
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: that many at the top right now, so I think

2018
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 1: he could do quite well.

2019
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 2: All right. From Rob Jankowitz. Janki asks if Jones retires,

2020
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:23,799
Speaker 2: who can Aspinall fight to become the greatest heavyweight in UFC?

2021
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: Besides wins in numbers, I don't see any real names

2022
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 2: in the weight class to cement his legacy. I mean

2023
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 2: you can support that by saying Cyril Gohn, we already

2024
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:37,120
Speaker 2: know would probably be the next fight you got what's

2025
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: his name? Volkoff is angry that Jones is holding it up,

2026
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: but Aspinall already beat Volkoff in like six seconds. Look,

2027
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:46,439
Speaker 2: the cupboards bear. The question is how quickly can they

2028
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 2: create one or can they acquire and Ghanu or Malakan

2029
01:41:50,439 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 2: or whomever is out.

2030
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 1: There for they can give Malakin? Is that going to

2031
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 1: really provide? I mean, you need rivals. You need rivals

2032
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 1: in stature, you need rivals and style, you need rivals.

2033
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think there's gonna dude, this is

2034
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: the thing like heavyweight is not. This is not a

2035
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: UFC problem. This is a global problem. Globally, heavyweight is

2036
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 1: just shit right now. So that's just that. You know,

2037
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 1: obviously you could get Malacan, as you mentioned Gabe Gable Steveson.

2038
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with that. You know, there's some

2039
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: ways that you know.

2040
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 2: Tom's not young. I know heavyweight, you linger, but Tom's

2041
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 2: not young. I mean the bet, dude, if John doesn't

2042
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 2: fight him, Tom should fight every two and a half

2043
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,800
Speaker 2: months on the dot and just keep blowing through every

2044
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:35,640
Speaker 2: single name they have.

2045
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:36,759
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree.

2046
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:40,880
Speaker 2: If he does, they might acquire and Ghano. They might.

2047
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: They might do it, Luke, I would love it.

2048
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a great, great call. I'm just

2049
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 1: skeptical they'll do it.

2050
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 2: Indeed. Indeed, our third question comes from Justin b. How

2051
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:54,640
Speaker 2: great was Josh Taylor in his prime? Many claim he

2052
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 2: was never that good, which is dead wrong. It would

2053
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: be dead wrong to say he was never that good.

2054
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 2: But Taylor did lose in and all set over the weekend,

2055
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: Luke to a gentleman's name I forgot, and that is

2056
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 2: his third straight defeat. He's in his mid thirties. We've

2057
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 2: seen the best of him already, but at his peak

2058
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,640
Speaker 2: at one hundred and forty pounds, this tough southpaw with

2059
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:17,280
Speaker 2: legitimate boxing ability, a great jab, a great understanding of distance,

2060
01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 2: a really good left hand balls. He was as elite

2061
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: as against He was the underspeed champion at one hundred

2062
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,400
Speaker 2: and forty pounds after he beat an unbeat in Jose Ramirez.

2063
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 2: Not you know, losing the title to Teo Femo in

2064
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 2: that case doesn't take that away. Neither maybe does his

2065
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 2: confirmed racism in the past Luke. But I would say

2066
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 2: he's not a you know, in maybe an all time

2067
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 2: great fighter, but at his peak he was top ten

2068
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:45,720
Speaker 2: pounds per pound, the best in his division, and a

2069
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 2: great fighter, even if he doesn't have twelve years of

2070
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: beating you know, elite names across the board.

2071
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I think it's a good way

2072
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: to put it. Great for his era, you know, how

2073
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 1: far that extends is a little bit harder to say.

2074
01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 1: But and for his weight class as well. Yeah, I

2075
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 1: think that's a fair way to put it.

2076
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 2: His fight against uh against Ruguru in the semi file

2077
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 2: or was it the semi finals of the World Boxing

2078
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,559
Speaker 2: Super Series is a hell of a fight, a split

2079
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 2: decision win. People should watch that look if they have

2080
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,320
Speaker 2: that's a great fight. It's probably his. It's you know,

2081
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 2: it's one of the best. Also we have from I

2082
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:26,639
Speaker 2: z Z Underscore. He is he I know you both

2083
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 2: don't smoke anymore. Well, Luke is a closer, so he's

2084
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 2: still vapant. But give me okay, thank you. That's great

2085
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 2: for you and your future and your family. Luke. Give

2086
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: them your all time cigarette power rankings, post Sex, post Meal,

2087
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 2: post Whippets, behind an RB's whatever, or rank them. Luke,

2088
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure you had a period where you were on

2089
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 2: them thangs, So which ones? What was your brand?

2090
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Definitely post Meal, Definitely post Meal. I was gonna chime

2091
01:44:57,360 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 1: in to just say it's very on brand for me.

2092
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,480
Speaker 4: But post Bong hit cigarette is the best cigarette.

2093
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: I stand on that. We got white trash working on

2094
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: this show.

2095
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 2: Hey, how dirt bag? Are you no seea Have you

2096
01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 2: ever smoked a cigarette under the covers when you as

2097
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 2: soon as you woke up?

2098
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:13,839
Speaker 1: That's that's where like under the covers.

2099
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 4: Now, I haven't smoked a cigarette in eleven years, but

2100
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 4: I did smoke cigarettes back in the day. Marlborough twenty

2101
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 4: seven's were my brand of choice.

2102
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: Shout out are those the ones with fentanyl in them.

2103
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 4: No, those are the ones that everyone says have copper

2104
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 4: in them. They're the copper colored Marlborough ones.

2105
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I mean yeah, it's for

2106
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: me post meal. I was never like yeah, and I think, dude,

2107
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: I think if you're smoking in the bed, you're gross.

2108
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:45,720
Speaker 2: If you're a a fan and you smoke cigarettes in

2109
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 2: your bed.

2110
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that's like there's nothing people make that sound like, Oh,

2111
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: post sex cigarette, do you smoke in your fucking bed,

2112
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: You're dubb t, You're you're You're a white trash piece

2113
01:45:57,240 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: of shit.

2114
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 2: You what about bong hits in the bed while you're

2115
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:01,040
Speaker 2: like sitting under the covers.

2116
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I can look the other way.

2117
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: I don't think that's as bad, but like just sitting

2118
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 1: there having a fucking cigarette in your fucking sheets, you

2119
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: just go shower. You absolutely filthy, fucking swine.

2120
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 2: Okay. I used to smoke Newport's when I was nineteen,

2121
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 2: like when i'd go to Yukona party with friends Luke,

2122
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 2: But I'm glad it didn't last. Secrets are the worst

2123
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 2: things ever.

2124
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: Cigarettes are terrible. Yeah, it's just.

2125
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 2: All right, thank you. We also have one here from

2126
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 2: Platinum Mike Perry, Is this a joke? Is this for real?

2127
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 2: I know he does follow our show?

2128
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 4: He legitimately replied on the post and read, tell.

2129
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 2: Me yeah, all right, So Mike Perry's question is bbw's

2130
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 2: only question mark. So what is he saying here, Luke?

2131
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 1: Uh? Is he talking about big old women, big, big

2132
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:48,839
Speaker 1: beautiful women.

2133
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 2: Big booty whites or big beautiful women?

2134
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 6: No?

2135
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 1: I think long Long Island, Luke, this is a porn

2136
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 1: reference to like big old girls. Right, you tell me, Luke,

2137
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. I think that's what

2138
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:07,120
Speaker 1: it is. I'm not sure you sure he didn't write

2139
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: bbl BBW He wrote BBW Yeah, I mean I'll pass

2140
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: on that. I mean, that's not you know, it's not

2141
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 1: my fave.

2142
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 2: Did you see Corey Sanhagan on the Overdogs podcast with

2143
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 2: Mike Perry where san Haagan, which appears to be a

2144
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: bit that everyone fell for, claims he made two million

2145
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:24,600
Speaker 2: on only the Fantasticals.

2146
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fucking died laughing. I saw yesterday and.

2147
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 2: Then and then Perry's like, yo, I got beautiful balls.

2148
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 2: I got to talk to my wife. I could be

2149
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: making as killing.

2150
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean I'm you know, BC, the BBWs are not

2151
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: really down with but the PA, b WB's, the POGs

2152
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: or WG excuse me, the POGs.

2153
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, true or false? That William and Mary you were

2154
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,600
Speaker 2: known as a BBW closer, you know, I mean you

2155
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 2: know they like to party to Luke.

2156
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: I mean, please be serious, I had I had some

2157
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 1: discerning taste.

2158
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 2: You're a frack guy. It was with any port in

2159
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 2: the storm, Luke.

2160
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 1: You know, no, no, it actually wasn't any port in

2161
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: the storm until after I graduated. It was, you know,

2162
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: four am. It's time to go hogging, you know what?

2163
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: All right?

2164
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 2: Speaking of hog, Luke, that is your DM question. It's

2165
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 2: time to transition into a full hog category, in which

2166
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 2: I look around on the Internet and find the weirdest

2167
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: videos possible and you force you to watch them. See

2168
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 2: if Luke lasts. This is called BC's Ooh, Luke, Hey,

2169
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 2: it's getting a little zesty in Thailand. Here's the goat himself,

2170
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 2: Boney enjoying himself with the boys in Daugaston. Luke nat

2171
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 2: Diez lasted one day on that reality show This guy

2172
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 2: loves It?

2173
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, are we doing the John Jones gay thing? No?

2174
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,360
Speaker 2: No, we're not that's a mme guru bit. This is

2175
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 2: just men having fun. What's wrong with that?

2176
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: Nothing? I just don't care about it, Okay.

2177
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 2: I mean it's raining men, Luke halleluj he right, it's great.

2178
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

2179
01:48:57,040 --> 01:48:59,439
Speaker 2: Does that make you think he's gonna sign for that fight?

2180
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm trying not. You know what, Like last week,

2181
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 1: we actually did a lot of talking about John Jones.

2182
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm ready to not talk about it.

2183
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 2: Let's never talk about it again. You once asked John

2184
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 2: Jones about your twenties and got nowhere. Here's Joe Rogan

2185
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:14,799
Speaker 2: talking about his twenties.

2186
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about your twenties.

2187
01:49:16,040 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 5: I don't know what you did in your twenties, but

2188
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 5: my twenties have been like this crazy.

2189
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:19,439
Speaker 1: Roller CoA.

2190
01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 2: But hit the hell of the time in his twenties there, Luke,

2191
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: what even was that? I don't know. It looked like

2192
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 2: he was you know, I don't know. You know, this

2193
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 2: is a kid, a family program at the end of

2194
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 2: the day.

2195
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Luke, age appropriate for kids.

2196
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 2: A new summer pool flow idea for you and your family.

2197
01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 2: Let's check it out. Hell yeah, if you put a

2198
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 2: pool in your front yard next to that weight bench,

2199
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:56,240
Speaker 2: would you put that in there just just to mark

2200
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 2: your territory.

2201
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing is, I have to be careful

2202
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 1: about it because any place that, first of all, I

2203
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 1: don't have one of those. But you're asking, like in

2204
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: the theoretical world, I mean nowhere that Tuchster is gonna play.

2205
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. Oh yeah, yeah, you know

2206
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I gotta you, gotta you gotta respect

2207
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 1: the Tuchster. I can't do.

2208
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 2: I can't even make jokes about that.

2209
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: Luca show up to your house uninvited with one of

2210
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:17,040
Speaker 1: those potentially you know.

2211
01:50:17,680 --> 01:50:19,799
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, you know we've never done in this segment

2212
01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 2: are eulogy of the week.

2213
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,920
Speaker 1: And John was a great man with a beautiful soul.

2214
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:29,560
Speaker 2: And that's why I give John's life five big booms.

2215
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 10: Boom boom, boom, boom boom.

2216
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 1: Have they died yet? The uh.

2217
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:42,439
Speaker 2: Did you see the Wrizzler at the Knicks game posing

2218
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: in a suite with like Larry Johnson, like all these

2219
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:48,519
Speaker 2: Knicks legends and Mama, yeah, with what they all know.

2220
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:49,880
Speaker 2: The Wrizzler, dude, it was great.

2221
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 1: The Rizzler. The Wrizzler is first of all, he's gonna

2222
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: pull procipitto. He's gonna die from type two diabetes or something.

2223
01:50:57,640 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: His brand is is staying strong, while the Costco.

2224
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: Guys, yeah, people love them, but the Costco boys, they've

2225
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 1: fallen off hard. I haven't seen them anywhere.

2226
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's bad.

2227
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:06,639
Speaker 12: Uh.

2228
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 2: Look, have you ever had spicy nuggets in fast food before?

2229
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 2: Probably for some people they're too spicy, and that's what

2230
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: led to this week's meltdown of the week.

2231
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:21,880
Speaker 12: You were on camera, right, So you need to get

2232
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 12: them out of here before I get hurt put in

2233
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 12: jail for the rest for life.

2234
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 3: You were on camera right.

2235
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 12: Before I get hurt put in jail for the life.

2236
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 2: You were on camera right, Uh Luke, that was a

2237
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,919
Speaker 2: burger king. That was pretty obnoxious, Right.

2238
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 1: What the fuck was wrong with that? You're just watching

2239
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: people have like mental episodes.

2240
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, post COVID, we're getting a lot of those

2241
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 2: publicly on this Uh it's wild, all right, Uh Luke.

2242
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: You know, pickleball produces not only Jay Aaron in tight shorts,

2243
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 2: so let's avoid that, but it does produce some great fights.

2244
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:05,679
Speaker 2: Let's check out this one. Two white guys, you know, arguing, Okay,

2245
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:07,200
Speaker 2: we got a kick. You know this.

2246
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm watching. Oh we came over with the racket. Oh

2247
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 1: here we go. Oh yeah, you fucking look and you know,

2248
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: just swatting him. Oh here we go. My man's got

2249
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: risk control, you know what, he's got pretty good risk control.

2250
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he learned that.

2251
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone landed a single punch in that

2252
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 1: whole exchange. So execute all of them, please please.

2253
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, it is time for father daughter bonding and

2254
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 2: time for you to teach Tuki the classics first literature.

2255
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorites. I read to her

2256
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 1: at night and goes to bed in tears. But it's

2257
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 1: worth it, you know what I'm saying.

2258
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:53,600
Speaker 2: And Luke, here's a perfect Halloween father daughter costume you

2259
01:52:53,640 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 2: guys can put together. I mean, outside of the door.

2260
01:52:57,840 --> 01:53:00,080
Speaker 1: Why why is my man got a heat put that bay.

2261
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:02,719
Speaker 2: Whise?

2262
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:04,800
Speaker 1: My man got a heat boner that goes to his hip?

2263
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: We know, we know you don't have that, sir.

2264
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:10,560
Speaker 2: Like okay, speaking of boners, Luke, you ever checked the

2265
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,360
Speaker 2: job listings and be like who applies for these? There's

2266
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 2: an opening for a beef boner with at least one

2267
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 2: year of experience called five eight one thirteen eighteen to apply.

2268
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: I got over get that number here. Yeah, I got

2269
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 1: a beef, I got I got a lot more than

2270
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:27,240
Speaker 1: one year's experience.

2271
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 2: All right, Mma, fighters in the wild. Nobody loves gender

2272
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 2: reveals more than you, Luke. But what about if it's

2273
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: Dustin Poier in his beautiful family.

2274
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:39,880
Speaker 1: It seems like a nice place wherever they're at.

2275
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 2: He's probably got some compound in Louisiana, right, look at that.

2276
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet he's living nicely.

2277
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:48,600
Speaker 2: Do you look down on him because he did this

2278
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 2: and tell and put it out there?

2279
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, gender reveal parties are just

2280
01:53:55,479 --> 01:53:58,439
Speaker 1: so ubiquitous that I'm you know, you're just fighting the

2281
01:53:58,479 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 1: weather at this point, you know what I mean, the

2282
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: battle has been lost. They're a thing. Now you have

2283
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 1: to admit surrender.

2284
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 2: More fighters in the wild. How about iron sharpening? Iron

2285
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:13,879
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas as Sean O'Malley And is he we're training?

2286
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 2: Is is he going to be trained by Welch? Is

2287
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:16,280
Speaker 2: that what's going on?

2288
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,479
Speaker 1: I think you're just working it out. You know, here's

2289
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 1: always stuff to learn from people.

2290
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:22,839
Speaker 2: That's an interesting power couple there in a cage.

2291
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,599
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, again, you train with as many people as

2292
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 1: you can you'll learn as many many different things you

2293
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 1: never imagined.

2294
01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you have a chance to train with Osbourne.

2295
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: We saw what happened with their h one more Fighter

2296
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 2: in the wild. Here's Corey Sandhagen preparing to pack for

2297
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 2: a fight. Pretty standard stuff.

2298
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 8: You don't need a lot like the UFC gives you

2299
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 8: a lot of stuff when you get there. To bring

2300
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 8: your own scale obviously, which I have your other scale

2301
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 8: for your other things. Drugs I don't do, like the

2302
01:54:50,760 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 8: serious drugs, just you know, the not white drugs that

2303
01:54:54,720 --> 01:55:00,879
Speaker 8: sticky iggy eh. Some tobacco protein of course. And then lastly,

2304
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,960
Speaker 8: this is Cosmo. This is my attack dog. He looks

2305
01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 8: soft and fluffy, but he's a mean son of a bitch.

2306
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 4: So come on, buddy, okay, all right, don't eat the drugs, buddy,

2307
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 4: just don't eat the drugs.

2308
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 8: Good boy. All right, And uh yeah, that's pretty much it.

2309
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 8: We're gonna take off to the private jet. That's how

2310
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 8: I get around now, so uh so, yeah, we'll be

2311
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 8: doing that.

2312
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 2: Dude, Why did we not have him on the MK documentaries?

2313
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: In hindsight, he's got it down right.

2314
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 1: We didn't know, we didn't we know, we didn't know.

2315
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 2: We didn't know. All right, look, you know what time

2316
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 2: it is, this time to rate that tat one to

2317
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,879
Speaker 2: ten rating system. Let's go to former UFC title challenger

2318
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 2: Meagan Anderson, who touched up the back your.

2319
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 1: Thoughts, man, So a lot of her other work I

2320
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 1: do think is very good. I'm not super in love

2321
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: with this, but it's unfinished, so we'll have to see. Okay,

2322
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: it looks a little, it looks a little.

2323
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 2: So better than mister heboss, but not quite.

2324
01:56:14,440 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 1: Definitely better than well, I mean that's not saying much. Yeah,

2325
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: it's definitely, but again, she has a lot of black

2326
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: and gray work. She has a legs leave that's really good.

2327
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 1: She has some of the best tattoos I've seen in mma.

2328
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,480
Speaker 1: I didn't have that back piece is not necessarily my favorite.

2329
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's go rate the next one, Luke, this

2330
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: is combining two of our favorite things, Creed and Ronald McDonald.

2331
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: Right, come on, okay, this is a ten out of ten.

2332
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 1: Are you shooting me? That is six feet from six

2333
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 1: feet from the mother fuck with the migfucking edge, Dude.

2334
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 2: I went into my son's bedroom yesterday and he had

2335
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 2: a Creed mix playing, and I.

2336
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 1: Was like, yes, you better kick that door to the

2337
01:56:57,320 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 1: fucking stream after it.

2338
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 2: I didn't and I didn't even influence him with this.

2339
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 2: It's just osmosis onto him.

2340
01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 1: Luke, poor child, gonna call Child Protected Services on your

2341
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: bitch ass.

2342
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,080
Speaker 2: Luke, rate this next test. Shout out Danny Glover of

2343
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:12,200
Speaker 2: lethal weapon fame.

2344
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah, that is a very good tattoo. I

2345
01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: mean it's a little strange, like the bottom lips got

2346
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: like a ton of white on it, but in general

2347
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 1: that's I love the I love the font. I'm too

2348
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: old for this show. That's I like that one. That's

2349
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 1: a nine and a half out of ten.

2350
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,919
Speaker 2: That's ok oh yeah, one more for you, Luke, involving

2351
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 2: your favorite the Marines.

2352
01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: You know what as an ironic tattoo, it's a ten

2353
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 1: out of ten.

2354
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2355
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 1: Are you sure, Luke, I wouldn't get it. I can

2356
01:57:47,680 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: tell you that I wouldn't do that.

2357
01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Shit, all right. Speaking of Marines, Luke, here are the

2358
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 2: two most important flags to a marine. Would you agree.

2359
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: In that order as well? Yes?

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01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Uh. New segment alert. We call

2361
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 2: this dongs in the wild. See if you can find

2362
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,840
Speaker 2: the hidden Mickey in here. I mean, sorry, the hidden

2363
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 2: peenie in here, Luke.

2364
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 1: Well, that means you've got a vainy ass cock.

2365
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 2: Is his name Rocco by any chance?

2366
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 6: Mean?

2367
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Yo? This rules? Oh and it's on the tents of

2368
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: the other minion. Wow.

2369
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 2: Hey, that's aggressive, right, that is oh lukey, you probably

2370
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised to find out that this sea urkin

2371
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 2: is also named Rocco urchin idiot who cares all the

2372
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 2: same upside down?

2373
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:47,800
Speaker 6: Right?

2374
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:53,720
Speaker 2: Look look at that? Yeah, that's wow. Look at the

2375
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 2: unit on that guy. Right? Wow, this show.

2376
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:00,200
Speaker 1: Hey, let's talk about whether or not who's a most

2377
01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 1: powerful parable combats. There's some dicks.

2378
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 2: Here's some dicks of van Let's check in on the

2379
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 2: happy meal right.

2380
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 5: On this table service brom getting nuggets.

2381
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:22,840
Speaker 2: Spicy Dick nuggets they got over there? All right, Uh,

2382
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:24,160
Speaker 2: let's go outside.

2383
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: I really love what you bring to this show. It's

2384
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 1: really we're just looking at Dick's in the wild. That's

2385
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:31,480
Speaker 1: that's all it is.

2386
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 2: Anymore, right, we might continue it all right? Next, what

2387
01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 2: are you doing?

2388
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:44,400
Speaker 1: Uh? I'm making a snow man. How are you gonna

2389
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: get that on top? It doesn't need to go on top?

2390
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:49,640
Speaker 1: And I just gotta make the seam to it.

2391
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 2: They don't see how this is a snowman.

2392
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:58,600
Speaker 1: You gotta trust the process. Seriously, what are you doing?

2393
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: We have neighbors. It's art. Please stop again. The hair

2394
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is what my life is.

2395
02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm forty five. I'm forty five. The hair on that

2396
02:00:17,680 --> 02:00:19,440
Speaker 1: snowman's balls made me laugh.

2397
02:00:20,680 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 2: We got one more dick in the wild, hare Luke.

2398
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:25,839
Speaker 2: They call this class art. You ever see this before?

2399
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 1: This is Long Island Luke's bong. It's much nicer than that.

2400
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that joab blows Luke.

2401
02:00:34,240 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 6: Right.

2402
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:39,120
Speaker 1: That is You're fired. I'm done with the show. You're fired.

2403
02:00:39,960 --> 02:00:41,480
Speaker 2: All right, Enough of this ship. Let's go to the

2404
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:44,200
Speaker 2: next one. Hey bro, you got any plans this weekend?

2405
02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 2: Let's listen in.

2406
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:48,959
Speaker 7: Hey bro, are you going to that Salcon convention?

2407
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 13: What's Sawcon?

2408
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:56,120
Speaker 5: You ask SoCon these nuts?

2409
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Okay, someone had some gummies in there. Temmy. When this

2410
02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: list came together, I.

2411
02:01:02,840 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 2: Can yeah, I can't coming on that. Do you remember

2412
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:10,720
Speaker 2: m M A great Jeff Monson? Look? Yeah, remember this promo.

2413
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Month in here. You like watching people get fucked for free?

2414
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 14: Watch me fuck up Mark Kerr for free on don

2415
02:01:17,800 --> 02:01:22,600
Speaker 14: ktv dot com Live Saturday, September twenty seventh, nine pm

2416
02:01:22,640 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 14: Eastern Time, don ktv dot com.

2417
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fuck him up.

2418
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 14: I'm gonna fuck him up. I'm gonna put these hands

2419
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:31,800
Speaker 14: right around his face and beat his ass. You watch

2420
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 14: his live for free don kingtv dot com.

2421
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 1: They fucking are fighting there.

2422
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 2: BC sounded like that Al Joe promo from back in then.

2423
02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 6: No.

2424
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know what's kind of funny about it

2425
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:48,080
Speaker 1: is anybody who's got you know, you know, immigrants in

2426
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 1: their life, God bless him. I have many of them

2427
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 1: in my life. Uh. They have the Spanish language once

2428
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: they have difficulty with certain kinds of verb tenses or

2429
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:02,560
Speaker 1: not just not tenses, but like for example, I'm gonna

2430
02:02:02,600 --> 02:02:06,080
Speaker 1: turn the clock or turn up the radio, they drop

2431
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:09,000
Speaker 1: the up. So they'll just you know, they'll they'll so

2432
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 1: instead of saying, fuck up the guy, I'm gonna I'm

2433
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna fuck the guy versus I'm gonna fuck up the guy.

2434
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 1: Two very different fuckings going on, you know what I mean?

2435
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, I don't know what shows you watch with

2436
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 2: young tukes. Uh, maybe this one's on your on your menu.

2437
02:02:26,440 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: Bob the building, He's a building, Bob the building, Oh no,

2438
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew what you were gonna do. You're

2439
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:42,240
Speaker 1: so predictable. I have to look at the veins on

2440
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: Dix and then pro terrorism jokes.

2441
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:51,600
Speaker 2: That it's about never forgetting. In fact, some people pay

2442
02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:53,880
Speaker 2: tribute to this day so that we do never forget it.

2443
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 2: Check out the back of this truck and the license plate.

2444
02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, it's a lot of never forgetting.

2445
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 2: I can say that, Yeah, sir, at the DMV, I'll

2446
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 2: take the license plate nine one two zero.

2447
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:08,360
Speaker 1: Who's number three in Nascar?

2448
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 6: Uh?

2449
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: Dale Dale singer?

2450
02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the intimidator. We don't joke about him anymore, though, Luke,

2451
02:03:16,640 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 2: on this show, I want to do.

2452
02:03:17,560 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 1: They get bitter when you joke about Dale scene, they

2453
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 1: get super bitter.

2454
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh, let's go to the playground. You gotta take care

2455
02:03:23,200 --> 02:03:26,560
Speaker 2: of your kids out here. It is a dangerous place, bro. No,

2456
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:28,800
Speaker 2: they can grab a tea bag out of nowhere.

2457
02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I am so glad. Yeah, just yeah, yeah, I

2458
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:38,160
Speaker 1: mean this is you don't understand. I mean, you know, BC,

2459
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 1: because you had kids, you don't understand how common this

2460
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 1: is at the playground. Not every time, but at least

2461
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:48,640
Speaker 1: once a week. I have to watch a kid get

2462
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:53,360
Speaker 1: absolutely punted into fucking orbit because they walk right in

2463
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 1: front of the swings and get fucking smashed and their

2464
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: parents aren't paying attention. It is. It is an app

2465
02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 1: salute regularity at this point.

2466
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 2: Look, have you ever gone on a cruise?

2467
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:07,120
Speaker 1: No, I'm not dubty, Okay, I.

2468
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 2: Was gonna ask if you remember cruise. Let's see this

2469
02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 2: guy's first cruise. You know that is.

2470
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: Really seeing the sights, you know?

2471
02:04:23,960 --> 02:04:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, finally, Luke, do you know all this time in history,

2472
02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 2: I never realized there were six spice girls? Did you

2473
02:04:29,960 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 2: know this? Let's do this?

2474
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:35,720
Speaker 13: New's this? I wa wa, I will not really really really,

2475
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:44,960
Speaker 13: I'm the I'm the stake spice girl.

2476
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 1: Okay, wet spies, ladies.

2477
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:55,040
Speaker 2: That's the ship this week, Luke, I hope you enjoyed it. B.

2478
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,480
Speaker 1: I'll give it a B. There was definitely some very

2479
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 1: strong moments, some very weak moments, but overall solid effort,

2480
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:01,440
Speaker 1: solid effort.

2481
02:05:01,480 --> 02:05:03,560
Speaker 2: A long Island looke letting us know that Josh Taylor

2482
02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 2: lost to Eco Essmon on Saturday. I'd forgotten that name.

2483
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, all right, And Daniel Snyder's nephew

2484
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 2: letting us know that BBW is officially a big beautiful women.

2485
02:05:14,440 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 1: Look there we are, there we are.

2486
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:18,280
Speaker 2: That's the show. That's all we got for you.

2487
02:05:18,480 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: All right, that's it.

2488
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all we could produce. Follow us below.

2489
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:24,880
Speaker 2: If you haven't liked and subscribed, it really would help

2490
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 2: the algorithm. Is that a thing? I think it would

2491
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 2: help it. You can check out our YouTube channels. I'll

2492
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:32,680
Speaker 2: have an interview later today with One Key Shaan Davis,

2493
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 2: the businessman. You're not gonna want to miss it. Talk's

2494
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:38,960
Speaker 2: a good game. That guy also delivers. Luka, you fired

2495
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 2: up him against Edwin Dalos Santos June seventh. I'm ready,

2496
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

2497
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm ready for that, dude. Yeah, this month has been

2498
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of quiet. It's gonna end kind of quiet, but

2499
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:48,080
Speaker 1: I feel like the summer's gonna be nice. Heat up,

2500
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:48,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good.

2501
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:51,920
Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's go Long Island. Luke Nosita of The

2502
02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 2: Main Card Minute. The UFC is back this week with

2503
02:05:55,160 --> 02:06:00,240
Speaker 2: Barber versus Blanchefield, a new Jersey product. Will you be

2504
02:06:00,560 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 2: podcasting this Saturday?

2505
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 1: I will.

2506
02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:04,600
Speaker 4: I'm putting out the bet breakdowns today and tomorrow. Took

2507
02:06:04,680 --> 02:06:06,680
Speaker 4: yesterday off because of the holiday, and I'll be doing

2508
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:10,919
Speaker 4: a full card watch along Saturday, so join me and Locito.

2509
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 2: Would you say big merch announcement next week? Would you

2510
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:13,800
Speaker 2: say yeah?

2511
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 4: I would say definitely tune into Monday's episode at eleven

2512
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,360
Speaker 4: am for a big announcement.

2513
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get after that a week from tomorrow. Don't

2514
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,560
Speaker 2: forget Wednesday, June fourth, brought to you by Quervo. It's

2515
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:31,839
Speaker 2: pregame preview UFC three sixteen BC LT and noted UFC

2516
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 2: hater Aaron Bronsteedner getting in there. So this will be

2517
02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 2: this will be good. We'll tussle all right. Uh Luke,

2518
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,120
Speaker 2: do you want to tell the people anything else before

2519
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:42,280
Speaker 2: you go onto your life? Uh?

2520
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:44,640
Speaker 1: I saw the new le Loo and Stitch. Don't go

2521
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:45,360
Speaker 1: see it.

2522
02:06:45,360 --> 02:06:48,040
Speaker 2: It's bad, okay, black Adam bad or what.

2523
02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 1: Well? Bad? Different? That was just you know, yeah, this terrible.

2524
02:06:58,720 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: Don't don't waste your time.

2525
02:07:00,560 --> 02:07:03,040
Speaker 2: I went on a double date this weekend at Mohegan Sun.

2526
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 2: Remember we were locked in there for a long time.

2527
02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 2: I saw a comedian you know who it was. You

2528
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 2: remember in the early two thousands there were those Dodge

2529
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 2: commercials where that redneck guys like is that a Hammy.

2530
02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: Vaguely.

2531
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that guy.

2532
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 1: What's his name, John Reap. Damn bitch, you go see

2533
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:23,800
Speaker 1: some sad shit.

2534
02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 2: I did it. It did happen. That's it though. Okay,

2535
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to my WT life. Thank you

2536
02:07:30,440 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 2: for tuning in. Uh, don't forget folks. This Saturday, Amazon

2537
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:38,640
Speaker 2: Prime Non pay per view, Get fired Up. PBC is back.

2538
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 2: We're looking at Caleb Plant, Armando Rescind's in the main event,

2539
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 2: Jamal Charlow and just his what second fight in like

2540
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:53,120
Speaker 2: five years or so? Big questions, big questions against Thomas Cornflake, Lehman,

2541
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 2: a couple of the good fights on that card. BC

2542
02:07:55,200 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 2: on the call with Morol Ronalo and Abdermaris, thank you

2543
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 2: very much. Checked that out ThisDay night on Prime Video.

2544
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 2: But that's about all for now. Like everything we do,

2545
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,800
Speaker 2: we like you back. Take care of yourselves, folks. That's it.

2546
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:11,440
Speaker 2: Hope you enjoy your week. We'll be back on Friday,

2547
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 2: eleven am Eastern for lt LL. I am THEBC and

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Speaker 2: we are out all the smoke fighters headed to the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 11: This year's International Boxing Hall of Fame Induction weekend in

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Speaker 11: boxing's hometown Cannas Stowe to New York. It takes place

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Speaker 11: on Thursday, June fifth through Sunday, June a, ending with

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Speaker 11: an annual ceremony immortalizing boxing's all time greats.

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Speaker 9: The International Boxing Hall of Fame are hosting fan events

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Speaker 9: and experiences all weekend long. On Friday night, June sixth,

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Speaker 9: Salida Promotion will present a terrific fight car in association

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Speaker 9: with All the Smoke Fight Live on his Own from

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Speaker 9: the Turningstone Resort Casino and Ramona, New York, featuring USBA

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Speaker 9: Heavyweight Champion Brandon Moore defending his title against undefeated prospect

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Speaker 9: Stanley Right in the main event, plus a stack under

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Speaker 9: Caring World Champion Franchion Foods Dessern and rising prospects JJ

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Speaker 9: Pagan and Develle Smith.

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Speaker 11: Sounds to me we're gonna have a great fight night

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Speaker 11: and of course Sunday ceremony to a inductor class of

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty five legends like many Pacman pak Yaw Michael

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Speaker 11: second to none in Pasmanian Devil Vinnie.

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Speaker 9: Paz joined All the Smoke Fight and Sleted Promotion at

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Speaker 9: Turning Stone Resort Casino for this year's International Boxing Hall

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Speaker 9: of Fame Induction weekend Hey Listen.

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Speaker 11: Visit Turningstone dot com for accommodations and tickets to Fridays

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Speaker 11: Fight Night. Visit ibhof dot com for the full Induction

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Speaker 11: weekend schedule.