WEBVTT - A Killer Performance with Steve Guttenberg

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<v Speaker 1>Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm heart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so excited for this bonus wind down episode

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<v Speaker 1>because we have Steve Gutenberg coming on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>our movie Kid Up by Killer The Heather Robinson Story

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<v Speaker 1>premiered on Lifetime Now you can stream it wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>stream on I believe Prime, so check that out. But

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<v Speaker 1>he is lovely and I cannot wait to dive in

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<v Speaker 1>and chat all things with mister Gutenberg. And we've got

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<v Speaker 1>mister Allen Russell, my husband, joining us for this one

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<v Speaker 1>because he's also a Steve Guttenberg fan, so let's get

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<v Speaker 1>him on.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi friend, Hi, ma, You guys look good and.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you. Are you in New York right now

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<v Speaker 1>doing press for the movie?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's been going great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you've been doing some stuff and getting We're

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<v Speaker 2>getting great reactions and people are people are loving you,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, there's so many you have, so many fans,

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<v Speaker 2>so many people who love your work, love your music,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really cool to hear that, you know, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm proud that we're working together and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>a really good thing. And people love the trailer and

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<v Speaker 2>they love the one sheep and it's going great.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's going really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought was excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the trailer's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Traila was really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't it really good? It was? Yeah? How were you two?

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<v Speaker 3>And how's the family? How the kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, everyone's good, everyone's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I went off to do a movie in Kentucky, so

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<v Speaker 1>we just got back from that. He's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>grinding and doing his training with clients and so it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a it's been it's been a good a good

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<v Speaker 1>year so far.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been it's been good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, that's the top of the line

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<v Speaker 2>when you can say it's been a good year so far,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a ten out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know. But it's interesting because of how the

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<v Speaker 1>year started, you know, especially for you, because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>turning on the TV and when the fires were happening

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<v Speaker 1>in Californian and the Palisades, and I'm like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Guttenberg, you know, and it's like, that was not

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<v Speaker 1>a good start to the year for so many people.

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<v Speaker 3>And no, it was very tough.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's going to take a long time for the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades and for Altadena to come back but it will.

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<v Speaker 3>It will.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is resilient and very hopeful, but the reality is

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<v Speaker 2>it was a huge natural disaster. Yeah, and six thousand

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<v Speaker 2>homes were burned in Palisades and more and more structures

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<v Speaker 2>and staying with Altadena. So you have let's say there

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<v Speaker 2>were four people in each home, you have twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people in each town being displaced.

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<v Speaker 3>It's rough.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very rough. And there, you know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>have six homes, it wasn't like a forest's burning. You

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<v Speaker 2>have concrete burning, literally, you have metal burning, you have plastics,

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<v Speaker 2>you have Tesla batteries burning. There's a ton of toxins

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<v Speaker 2>in the air and in the ground. So there's lots

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<v Speaker 2>to do, you know, environmentally, there's lots to do. And psychologically, yeah, well.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when you were in West Virginia you had

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<v Speaker 1>a cough and you're like, this is from the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was in March, and so I'm curious has

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<v Speaker 1>that gotten any better? And because I don't think people

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<v Speaker 1>realize that, I mean, you were literally, you know, ground

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<v Speaker 1>zero in there, and then all the smoke and inhalation

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<v Speaker 1>that you had from that, I mean you were cough

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<v Speaker 1>and a bunch from it. In March.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have the cough for one hundred days. Wow, one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred days since the fire, and it's gone. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it anymore, thank God.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that lead that leads me to a quick just

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<v Speaker 4>a quick comment. And so so I look through when

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<v Speaker 4>I met you a couple of months ago, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know how much a fan I am of yours, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so excited and so was I when movies I.

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<v Speaker 3>Let you do, didn't I When you met me, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Did not Your aura and energy is exactly what I

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<v Speaker 4>thought it would be, so it was it wasn't a surprise.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, So what my point is when I look

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<v Speaker 4>at your Instagram, I love all the kind of motivational

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<v Speaker 4>and inspirational stuff that you're doing right now because you're

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<v Speaker 4>you're sharing stories and experiences from your from your life

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<v Speaker 4>and you're kind of opening yourself up and putting yourself

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<v Speaker 4>in a position where you're sharing your feelings on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to say, like, I listened to them

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<v Speaker 4>and I love.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much. They started out with my dad was

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<v Speaker 3>a few years ago and he was in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>So during the day, you know, my sister and I

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<v Speaker 2>would have to take a break, you know, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'd swimch off and walk outside, get a cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and sit outside.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are always people during the day to talk to.

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<v Speaker 3>But we would sleep there in the mid and in

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>If you you can't sleep, you go outside and there's

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<v Speaker 2>nobody there to talk to. So a friend of mine said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, talk to the internet. There are other people

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<v Speaker 2>who will talk back, and they did.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would get on there and say, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking care of my dad and whatever I would

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, and they would say, Wow, I'm taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of my mom, I'm taking care of my son.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, I'm working late at the office.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I'm a janitor, I'm a I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>truck driver.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what I do in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the night.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a way of communicating and then it

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<v Speaker 2>sort of got into I would record these little musings

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<v Speaker 2>about life.

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<v Speaker 3>But what I really believe in my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to tell me was that a mother in

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<v Speaker 2>Nashville is the same as a mother in Jordan, and

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<v Speaker 2>a mother in la is the same as a mother

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<v Speaker 2>in Moscow, and mechanics and teachers and all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>all of us human beings are the same and we

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<v Speaker 2>have the same thoughts no matter where you live, we're

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<v Speaker 2>human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have.

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<v Speaker 2>These these normal thoughts about the practice of living. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just started talking and it's sort of morphed into

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<v Speaker 2>that and it's just as much for me as it

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<v Speaker 2>is for everybody else to sort of say what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about and see if anybody else is thinking. It's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like when I would talk. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of buddies, you know, women friends, men friends, but

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes with men friends, you know, it's like you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, you'll say, hey, do you different, has

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<v Speaker 2>this ever happened to you? Or you ever think about this?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you share things. And same with my

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<v Speaker 2>woman friends. You know, I'll say, do you ever think

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<v Speaker 2>about this? This is on my mind today? And a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine will said, yeah, I think about that

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. And I'm like, wow, I'm not alone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess that's what it really comes down to.

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<v Speaker 2>What I think about my musings is like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I think there's such you know, benefits,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again, because you're same thing, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we I've openly shared things on Instagram, and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>helping people. And the other side of that is it

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<v Speaker 1>does open the door for people's opinions and not so

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<v Speaker 1>nice comments and and so I don't know if you've

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<v Speaker 1>experienced that piece of it through sharing, but I still

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<v Speaker 1>think that regardless, it's that's what I'm like because the

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<v Speaker 1>positive always outweighs the one negative comment. But sometimes the

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<v Speaker 1>negative comment is the one that stands out the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know, I can put on a new outfit

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is really cool, great jacket, pants and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have ninety nine people say how great it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a homeless guy sitting on the just drank

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<v Speaker 2>a bottle of vodka, and I walked by him. He goes,

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<v Speaker 2>that outfit looks terrible, and I'll think, to myself, what

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<v Speaker 2>are you talking about. I'll say to him, we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about I just bought this. It's a great new shirt

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<v Speaker 2>and pants and a great jacket. He goes, doesn't really match.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to know something, He's someone I think

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<v Speaker 2>about all day. You know, I'll say, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>guy told me that it doesn't look good. He'll go, God,

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<v Speaker 2>buddy of am I going, what guy? I go guy

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<v Speaker 2>on the street kind of street homeless guy who just

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<v Speaker 2>drank a bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>Of vodka, And that's the guy you're listening to. But

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<v Speaker 3>we as humans, we do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're attracted to drama, We're attracted to the

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<v Speaker 2>dark side. So I do find that eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the comments are good comments and then twenty percent are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, deranged or or you know, not constructive and

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<v Speaker 2>and a little mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's actually how life is.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is supposed to be eighty percent great and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>percent hard. I think that's the way God made it,

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<v Speaker 2>so it sort of works out in everything. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think in the morning, you know, you got to wake

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<v Speaker 2>up and say, I choose happy, and I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, there's going to be twenty percent not so great.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not supposed to be eighty twenty, like eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent horrible comments and twenty percent great. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be eighty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like the eighty twenty. That's that's a nice rule.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you happy that social media wasn't around when you

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<v Speaker 1>were back in the day doing you know, the two

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<v Speaker 1>men and the baby's and that it takes too, like

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<v Speaker 1>are you are you happy that you lived in I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're the success and the rise of your career

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in social media times.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm glad there were no no, no techie phones

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid that I would, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>go out in the street and play stickball and kickball

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<v Speaker 2>and baseball and football and ring a libo and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and live a normal life without these phones. I think

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<v Speaker 2>these phones and social media is terrific because you can

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<v Speaker 2>you can educate and entertain with them, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>changed the timber of the psychology of the planet, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes not so good, you know. You know, it's sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it's much better to get on the phone and talk

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<v Speaker 2>rather than tech. And the texting is so easy that

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<v Speaker 2>we lose that ability to converse, you know, and we

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<v Speaker 2>need that. Like if I was texting you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say and you know, or you wouldn't say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah yeah. And I think it's social media eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of it is great, twenty percent of it is not.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a lot of selling going on and promoting,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's also fake.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. I'll look at someone social media and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see everybody in like, all dressed in white and

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<v Speaker 2>their house is white in the Hamptons and it's a mansion,

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids are running and the husband saying about

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<v Speaker 2>the message is such stank, so blessed. And I look

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<v Speaker 2>at them and I'm like, you, man, I'm not blessed

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<v Speaker 2>like that. You you know how happy you bastards are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know? And then I'll realize, wait a minute, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fate. It's not real. That's just not real. And

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<v Speaker 2>you and you know, so I think that it can

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean we I mean, there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>studies on that that you know, it can make you feel.

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<v Speaker 2>You start going, you start scrolling and seeing everybody so

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<v Speaker 2>happy and laughing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's just like one, you know, one part of

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<v Speaker 3>their lives, you know. But you have to be so compared.

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<v Speaker 3>A friend of mine always says, compare and despair.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Steve, is this the first time that you

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<v Speaker 4>have played the role of a murderer?

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<v Speaker 3>A murderer?

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<v Speaker 1>I love your Scottish accent when you do.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you have the greatest voice. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to do, you gotta do something you do. You have

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<v Speaker 2>the most beautiful voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me think here, No, I did play a murderer

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<v Speaker 3>in a very small horror movie out of Brussels. I

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<v Speaker 3>shot in Brussels and it was a job. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I went there to work and it never went anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've been a villain.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a pedophile in Veronica Mars pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. She was a mean Las Vegas hotel owner

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<v Speaker 3>in Ballers.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, putting Dwayne you know Dwayne Down and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Did when I when I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was eighteen or seventeen, I did a show called Family,

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<v Speaker 2>which was many years ago, and I played a very

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<v Speaker 2>bad kid.

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<v Speaker 3>So I and on stage, I've played villains.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, as an actor, I think you only

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<v Speaker 2>get to play a serial killer basically once in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and this was a great opportunity. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>grateful to Lifetime for you know, for choosing me and

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<v Speaker 2>offering me the part. Because you know, as actors, we

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<v Speaker 2>like to work first of all, and then when you

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<v Speaker 2>get it, you know, you're given a certain amount of equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you look at Robert de Niro and he

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<v Speaker 2>looks like an Italian mafia boss.

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<v Speaker 3>So what does he get? A lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Mafia boss guys and a lot of you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of mafia soldiers that's a big part of his career,

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<v Speaker 2>or tough guys. But every once in a while you

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<v Speaker 2>see him do meet the fockers or the intern where

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<v Speaker 2>he's this, you know, a father or a sweet older

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<v Speaker 2>man trying to help a you know, a young lady

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<v Speaker 2>find her way. So we're actors and we love to

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<v Speaker 2>bring out our toolbox.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say, like, if you're an architect and all

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<v Speaker 2>you do our barns and people go, oh, I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to build an apartment building, but I know you can't.

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<v Speaker 3>You go, no, I can. I just have made my

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<v Speaker 3>living building barns.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, I can building you an apartment house and

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<v Speaker 2>knock your socks off, so you know, and then long

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<v Speaker 2>wood away.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really grateful for this part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you were so in on being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I want the mustache, I want a mustache, I want this.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be able to have, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>you were. You know, I was hearing those discussions when

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<v Speaker 1>when they were doing my putting my bangs on. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Steve is like really invested in wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>change his look. And I think that was really cool

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<v Speaker 1>because you were truly invested in creating a character.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so much of what we do is physical. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to create a walk and a posture and

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<v Speaker 2>cadence of talking and the look, you know, shave my

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<v Speaker 2>hairline back and put the mustache in the glasses and

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<v Speaker 2>even make my skin have eggzema, you know, those like

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<v Speaker 2>little red dots on it, and it really changes not

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<v Speaker 2>only your look, but how you feel when you're acting.

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<v Speaker 2>That equipment. I remember years ago I worked when I started,

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<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen, and I worked with Larry Olivier who said,

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<v Speaker 2>use a fake nose as much as you can fake

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<v Speaker 2>teeth wigs.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you'll love it, and the audience will love it.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll see something different. We love to see people popping

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<v Speaker 3>up different holes. You know, when you see a friend

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<v Speaker 3>all the time is in sweats and T shirts and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, never does her and all of.

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<v Speaker 2>A sudden you go to the wedding, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>wedding or an event, and she's all dolled up. You're

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<v Speaker 2>like wow, you know, you get a real kick out

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<v Speaker 2>of that. So same with actors. And Olivier was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge proponent of fakery.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, and and when I was very young.

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<v Speaker 2>I took it to heart, saying, she can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you know, you're doing a picture or a movie

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<v Speaker 2>or a play where they go, we just want you

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<v Speaker 2>to look like you. And that happens a lot when

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<v Speaker 2>you know, producers kind of want to emulate the successes

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<v Speaker 2>you've had. We no, no, no, we don't want that

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<v Speaker 2>fake nose. We want you, you know. And and that's

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<v Speaker 2>a different ballgame. But I was so grateful to the

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<v Speaker 2>producers and our director, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Marty was great and the Tanell brothers just great to

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<v Speaker 2>let me do my thing, you know. And did you

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way when you were working that they gave

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<v Speaker 2>you a lot of rooms?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I love them. That was the second

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<v Speaker 1>time that I got to work with them, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were great. And it was funny cause Stacy or their

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the makeup girl, she was like, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to be able to do your typical

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<v Speaker 1>beach curls. I'm like, no, I don't want that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to, like, yes, change it up. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where this is going through eras of or different decades

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<v Speaker 1>from the eighties to you know, the two thousands and

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<v Speaker 1>so like yes, change it up. Let's do it like

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<v Speaker 1>that is excited for that piece of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's that's our job to to bring all our

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<v Speaker 2>tools out and figure out, Okay, how do I I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to decorate this house?

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<v Speaker 3>How do we decorate this house?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we usually do ten paintings those kids with

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<v Speaker 2>the big eyes, but I don't want to do that

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<v Speaker 2>on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let will you allow me to do something new? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>and and it's terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sure that you know, as you said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we as actors, we we.

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<v Speaker 3>All enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that every actor, no matter where you are,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you get a chance to play you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mercutio or something. You know you want a different look

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<v Speaker 2>or you know you want to play you know, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know make in the Scottish play you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you want a different look. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, it's cool. It's really fun to play. To dress up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we do, right, we dressed up.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were having a Steve Guttenberg weekend in the

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<v Speaker 1>house the other the other weekend because I've been introducing

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<v Speaker 1>the kids to movies that I watched when I was

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<v Speaker 1>around my daughter's age, and so one of my favorites

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<v Speaker 1>was It Takes two. So we were watching like parent

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<v Speaker 1>Trap and then I was like, guys, here's like this

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that I'm like stee like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>like love that movie so much, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>and Christiality's you know, chemistry was so great in that

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<v Speaker 1>and I just like I And of course I fan

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<v Speaker 1>grolled when I met you, like, you know, A Three

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<v Speaker 1>Minute Baby and a Little Lady were like my favorite movies.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't give me usually yet I get paid like

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<v Speaker 2>the fan fan stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like twelve dollars and I never got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just yeah, okay, I was like twelve dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm a really big fan and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going to get that out by the way. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love a love your movies. And then of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a big on Police Academy. But

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<v Speaker 1>is there a movie you look back and go like

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<v Speaker 1>that that was special or that that connection was special

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<v Speaker 1>doing that movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't have a favorite. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>love them all.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the experience of working, of meeting people, of

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<v Speaker 2>becoming intimate with them in conversations. You know, you become

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a really it's a really great part

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<v Speaker 2>of our job that we of all we're pretty sent

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<v Speaker 2>All actors are sensitive and that like if you know

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<v Speaker 2>your two plumbers that you get to a building and

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<v Speaker 2>you got to fix a leak, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, how you doing? How you doing? You know, you

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<v Speaker 3>just get to work. But what we do is we

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<v Speaker 3>start to find out, you know, oh, what's your husband like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and where do you live?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, where do you come from and what

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<v Speaker 2>do you do? And this is what I do and

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I come from, and you exchange intimacies

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<v Speaker 2>that make you closer and then able to work. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've found out on every job I've ever had that

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<v Speaker 2>there's something very similar to all of us that we

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<v Speaker 2>like to share and be close and open ourselves up

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<v Speaker 2>because I think we all look different, whether it's Duane

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson or you know, or you know, you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>George Clooney or no matter who you are, we all

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<v Speaker 2>were that weird kid, you know, that sort of was

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<v Speaker 2>different and tried to fit in and all that, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we found as an adult or maybe as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>we found other actors and we say.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you're like me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you you know you like musical You know you

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<v Speaker 2>like musicals, So do I, you know, and and so

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always enjoyed every job. Had one job.

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<v Speaker 2>In Spain where the director was lusting after my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>so I thought he was weird. And that was the

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<v Speaker 2>only job where I'm like, this guy's really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, it was one of those, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So I've watched a lot of like true crime stuff

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<v Speaker 4>and serial killer stuff that sounds weird and it sounds

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<v Speaker 4>a bit dark. But how much I'm always interested, right

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<v Speaker 4>like you are obviously top of your profession. How much

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<v Speaker 4>work and research, Steve, did you put into the real

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<v Speaker 4>John Edward Robinson. What were some of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>you did so that you could maximize your craft?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you nice for asking.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of time looking over newspaper articles,

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 2>magazine articles, from television and video on him and on

0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 2>people discussing him, on Heather, on his wife is some

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<v Speaker 2>of his kids, and and after about an hour and

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<v Speaker 2>then then about his actions, and then after about an

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<v Speaker 2>hour and a half of studying, I had to take

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<v Speaker 2>a break.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so painous. His life was so disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond disgusting, so low that I sort of had to

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<v Speaker 2>clean out after about an hour and a half and

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<v Speaker 2>watch some Seinfeld and just just you know, go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the real world. I don't think it's good for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody to spend too much time.

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<v Speaker 3>With undesirables. Although you know, my dad was a cop, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's what they do all and it creates

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<v Speaker 2>a certain type of person. It really affects you. I'm very,

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<v Speaker 2>very cognizant to not let it affect my outside life

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think it's fair for my family and

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<v Speaker 2>friends to deal with me saying, oh, I can't talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you now because I doing my research. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>serial killer and I'm all screwed up, so I try

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<v Speaker 2>to just clean it off at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>But the research was rough.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever talk to Heather.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't speak to anybody nobody at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of didn't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't know. I just didn't think it

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<v Speaker 3>was something I needed to do. Yeah, you know, did

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<v Speaker 3>you speak to anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, but I did on my previous one

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<v Speaker 1>was a true story, and you know, I remember talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Marty because she directed that one. Too, where it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, she said she wasn't emotional in the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was. She's like, but you also got to

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<v Speaker 1>play it how you would how you think it should

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<v Speaker 1>be played too. So it's like meeting it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. And so sometimes where I want to

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<v Speaker 1>honor their story, it's also you're telling a story too,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and what would be coming up for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I could see the poll of not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of wanted to make a painting of

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<v Speaker 2>the experience rather than a photograph. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to look just like John. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>create my own look of somebody who's so disturbed. What

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<v Speaker 2>would that look like? And I kind of felt the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing about my relationship with Heather and relationship with

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<v Speaker 2>you and the relationship with my wife in that I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to create a painting of it. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>put it through a few prisms, not just a straight photograph.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reading this thing right now, where it's basically A

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<v Speaker 1>jury found the man guilty on three counts of capital

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<v Speaker 1>murder in two thousand and two, and he was sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>to death. He later admitted to five additional murders in

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<v Speaker 1>Missouri as part of a plea agreement, and received five

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<v Speaker 1>life sentences his prison in prison. But I just saw

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<v Speaker 1>a thing like kind of where is John Edward Robinson today?

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<v Speaker 1>And it says he remains in prison, has and has

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<v Speaker 1>appealed to his sentence numerous times. And I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>does he appeal when he's when a he's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a murderer, He's pled guilty to these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>numerous women, Like, what do you mean you're appealing your sentence?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 3>I did some research on that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you have any like can you help me

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<v Speaker 1>understand that piece? Or like, is he just trying not

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<v Speaker 1>to be sentenced to death?

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<v Speaker 2>Or in our country, the way the legal system works

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<v Speaker 2>is you could sue your couch if you think that

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<v Speaker 2>the couch is hurting your back, and do you the

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<v Speaker 2>reason that your postures and correct just because of your couch.

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<v Speaker 3>You could sue the company that made that couch. You're

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<v Speaker 3>allowed now, whether the court takes it and decides it's

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<v Speaker 3>all right, that's one thing. But you're allowed to sue anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>For you sue the guy who sells pretzels, on the

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<v Speaker 3>corner because you don't like the look of his pretzels

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<v Speaker 3>reminded you of a terrible experience, and you can sue him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if your coffee is not is too hot,

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<v Speaker 2>spills on your lap, you can sue the company for

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<v Speaker 2>too hot coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>That McDonald's lawsuit, Yeah right, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So with with appeals, you can appeal anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, whether the court takes it seriously or not. That's

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<v Speaker 3>another thing wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he killed eight women in Kansas, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's allowed to be that's the law. You're allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to appeal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's because that's for the innocent man who actually they

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<v Speaker 2>say killed all those women and he didn't, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>in jail and he's allowed to appeal, and that appeal

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<v Speaker 2>proves that somebody else did it and then he and

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<v Speaker 2>then he can go free. And that's really what it's for.

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<v Speaker 2>It's for the innocent, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's the So when I was reading up a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit about it's the scheming side of it also,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean those those are the actual mothers of the women,

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<v Speaker 4>which is disgusting. But there's the scheming side of it,

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<v Speaker 4>where he was his own brother that he took money

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<v Speaker 4>from yeah, yeah, and say that was the money for

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<v Speaker 4>the baby when obviously we knew, we know where the

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 4>baby came from. But to do things to that extent

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<v Speaker 4>to your family members as well as strangers of people

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<v Speaker 4>that are in your.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuckles, it's just like and then for that brother too,

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<v Speaker 1>for his head to spend like what like not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's just that's tough, and that's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be it's got to be hard for you to then

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<v Speaker 1>play that kind of character and then separate because you

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 1>were such a good man and he was such a

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<v Speaker 1>bad man. And then like, obviously it's your craft and

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<v Speaker 1>you're but it's also it's I gotta imagine that's tough too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're not playing a great human.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The research and the thinking about it was tough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But the playing it, you know, the acting it in it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the scenes we did, the scenes I did

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<v Speaker 2>with Rachel.

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<v Speaker 3>I enjoyed it. I loved it. I had a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so cool to play not that to play

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this true life character, but to act and

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<v Speaker 3>to use my.

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<v Speaker 2>Skills and to see what I can do different and

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<v Speaker 2>how do I become believable And at the end of

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>the day. It's always been easy for me to hang

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<v Speaker 2>it up and it's gone. And there were moments when

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<v Speaker 2>I really thought about him and what he did, and

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<v Speaker 2>I felt the scene where I murder head. There's mother

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the in the motel that was terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now that you bring it up, you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>that really bothered me a great deal. We were, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a small crew in the motel room. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't thought about this, you know. I'm glad you both

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<v Speaker 2>burned up. Thanks Ellenen, Thanks Janathan. But the baby was

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<v Speaker 2>on the bed, and I've seen lots of babies on

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<v Speaker 2>the bed, so it reminded me of you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>sweet it is to have a baby on the bed

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<v Speaker 2>because it's safe. You know, the baby can't really roll off,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because if you're right there and there's the mother,

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<v Speaker 2>the sweet mother, and I seduced her, you know, with

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>my language or whatever, and then murder her with a

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>hammer in front of the baby. And that was a

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<v Speaker 2>very very difficult moment. Uh, you know, a difficult shoot time,

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 2>whether you know, I don't know. It was a half

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<v Speaker 2>a day. And then at the outside near the car. Uh,

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>she gives me the baby to hold or something. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the devil and he's holding this little baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah. That was terrible. That was terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>M h I can't wait to see the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>You like it was you know, Marty did a great

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<v Speaker 2>job on in the Tinnels, you know, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>us actors. But it was a good movie, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it directed really well. The music is excellent. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought the production value was high and being every all

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the actors were seamless.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you never saw anything other than realism. It

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<v Speaker 3>was good. It was a good little movie. And I

0:32:03.040 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 3>think it's gonna make some noise, I really do. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone watched Kidnapped by a Killer The Heather Robinson Story.

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<v Speaker 1>It has aired on Lifetime, but you can stream it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Not by a Killer, The Heather Robinson Story. Steve, you

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<v Speaker 1>were a pleasure. It was a joy to work with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're you're a force. So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was honored to be in a scene

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was too.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a really great actor, and you're such a great couple.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're you have such love for each other.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so beautiful to see because that's what the world

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<v Speaker 2>is about you know, and you have a great family,

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you move to Nashville and you're making

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<v Speaker 2>a great life and you're you're both are working and contributing.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I can't wait to come down there at

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<v Speaker 3>Nashville and see you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And the invitation is there, and we're gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe well we'll find you a nice little Southern girl

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Steve.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. I remember our talk. I'm trying to I'm

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to match make don't you worry. I'm not. I

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<v Speaker 1>have you right here in my brain vibe. I might

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>have mentioned you to a girlfriend the other day. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, you know, I've got you. I've got

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you in mind, one of the best, so you deserve

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<v Speaker 1>the best. Is as all I'm want to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks. I love you guys. Thanks for thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 4>So nice to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to see you both. All right, Chad, soon talk

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<v Speaker 3>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>By loving so much amazing, all right, everybody will watch

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Kidnap by Killer. The Heather Robinson story disturbing, but so

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<v Speaker 1>proud of Heather for letting us share her story and

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<v Speaker 1>giving her a voice in the tragedy that was her mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and and all those women so stream watch and support

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<v Speaker 1>Heather