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Here queen go one hand and catch at 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: a touchdown? Oh baby house film. Here's Craig Griolu, Paul 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 1: CALVC and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch. So, gentlemen, 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: this is not your typical Tuesday. Now, this is the 14 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: final Tuesday. On Wednesday, March fifteenth, the new league year 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: officially begins, though based on the activity that began twenty 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: four hours ago, perhaps the new league year is already 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: reportedly underway. We're gonna use that word Paul a lot, 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: according to reports, reportedly expected too, because nothing can become 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: official unless you're resigning your own unrestricted free agents until 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: Wednesday afternoon. So you're saying, it's New Year's Eve. Yes, 21 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: I have no plans, do either of you. You know, 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: I gotta make some I gotta I gotta scramble here 23 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: at the last minute, New Year's Eve, you know, ringing 24 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: in midnight tonight, the new league year. You know, a 25 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: couple of beverages, maybe something to celebrate. We'll see, this 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: is one of two times per year. Also, Craig, I 27 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: might point out where the Cardinals hand out those big 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: red roses, right as we like to say, Okay, you know, 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: in Bachelor style you hand out the red roses. There's 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: only two times, one at the end of training camp, 31 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the final fifty three, and here we are in free agency. 32 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well, if we're gonna go off of that analogy, 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: then the first official rose that was handed out by 34 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, Kyle went to your guy wide receiver 35 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 1: Greg Dortch, who signed his one year tender. In the fold, Well, 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: at the very least, you know, they talk about character guys, 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: guys that are gonna bring it every day, Guys that 38 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: want to go out there and love to compete, and 39 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: just from my vantage point, that's Greg Dortch in a nutshell. 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: He's a guy that's gonna push other guys on the roster. 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna fight for a roster spot. That's going to uh, 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, anytime he's a part of the game plan, 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: anytime he was on the field, whether it be at 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: wide receiver, whether it be on special teams. Um, he's 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: just a guy that wants to go out there and 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: help the team. A true team guy, and it's good 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: to see him. Um. You know, Look, he's not a 48 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: splashing name. He's not a name outside of this market 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have heard of. But he 50 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: is a guy that fans appreciate that. They recognize what 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: he brings and what he has done, and and he's 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: doing it the right way. You know. You hope that 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: he had two breakout games last year. You hope that 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: he can piece it together and have a breakout season 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals next year. Only missed one game 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: that was Week twelve because of a thumb injury, fifty 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: two catches on sixty four targets, and he did not 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: record a single drop according to Pro Football Reference dot com. 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: So Greg Dortch is back and let's use that word. Reportedly, 60 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham, the Cardinals starting right tackle, is also back, 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: according to reports ball two years, just over five million, 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: three and a third of that guaranteed. But good to 63 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: see beach And I'll steal your phrase late in the season, 64 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Beach and the boys. We know Kelvin Beacham will be 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: back or Beach in the backups, you know, either one 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: it was. That's what it came down to, because we 67 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: don't have to say reportedly when we mentioned how he 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: was the only offensive lineman, the only offensive player period 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: to start all seventeen games. You're not going to find 70 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: a guy in that locker room who commands more respect 71 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: on and off the field than Kelvin Beacham. He even 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: saw him get a little a little heated, you know, 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the season there, right, He get 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: a little feisty there at the end. So look, he 75 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: brings a lot everything. And whether you needed him to 76 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: play left tackle, which he did in a pinch for 77 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: a little bit last year, whether he's going to be 78 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: your starting right tackle this year, no idea, what other 79 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: plans they have in the draft, free agency, Josh Jones. 80 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Either way, this is a guy who's just so superior 81 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: in the locker room and and you know it is 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: not going to get you beat out on the field. 83 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: And so Kelvin Beacham, Yeah, that was a double dying 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: in my book to bring him back for so many 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: different ways as you're trying to reset the culture of 86 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: this team. He is part of the solution, not part 87 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: of the problem. And you always hear Kyle, your best 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: ability is availability. And for Beacham the last three seasons 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: one in the Arizona Cardinals uniform, he has started forty 90 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: eight of games. You can count on Beacham to be 91 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: on that football field on Sunday. And his availability is 92 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: not just because of good fortune, not because he was 93 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: lucky to not get injured. He played through pain last year. 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: I think he had a popcorn related heart attack or 95 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: something during the season that we saw in Hard Knocks. 96 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: He had an ankle sprain, was playing on one leg 97 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: really the last couple of games, and willed himself to 98 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: be out there. When you know you're when you're a 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: part of a rebuild, when you're looking toward next season, 100 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: when you're looking to build a franchise, you're looking for 101 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: players that are looking for a way into the fight. 102 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: The situation the Cardinals were at the end of last season, 103 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: there were players looking for a way out of the fight. 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: They were the season was over, there was nothing left 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: to play for guys that are looking at building their 106 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: value their next contract, trying to stay healthy. That wasn't 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham. Calvin Beacham was going out there. Look, he 108 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: probably didn't great out very well those last couple of 109 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: games because he really was playing on one leg, but 110 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: he willed himself to be out there because it's what 111 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: the team needed and he didn't want to let his 112 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: team down and he wanted to be there. That's the 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: type of leadership that Jonathan Gannon and Matthiasmporter are looking 114 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: for on this team. As good as it is to 115 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: have beaching back in that locker room, there is a 116 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: major piece that will not be back again. According to reports, 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: and this one hurt when I saw Adam Schefter. Ian 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Rappaport reported Lates on Monday afternoon, defensive lineman Zach Allen 119 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: going to the Denver Broncos, reuniting with his DC here 120 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Vance Joseph now the defensive coordinator with the Broncos, 121 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: but Alan is gone. Paul according to reports, three years, 122 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: forty seven point seven five or forty five point seven 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: five million, with upwards of thirty two guaranteed when he 124 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: puts pen to paper. Officially, he was your best player 125 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: on defense. I thought last year snapping and snapped out. 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, JJ Watt had a glorious finish to the season. 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. He had the numbers. But 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: if you remember the first half of last year, how 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: close Zach Allen was to another half dozen sacks. He 130 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: was so disruptive, he was such a problem. There was 131 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: a next gen stat they just put out that when 132 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: it comes to run stuff rate last year he was 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: number two in the NFL to Aaron Donald. That's when 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: you tend to make a tackle for loss or no 135 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: gain and he a tackle opposing Paul carries every right 136 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: here for a loss or no gain on five point 137 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: five percent of his run defense snaps last year, trailing 138 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: only Aaron Donald barely, who was at five point eight percent. 139 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: He was really good. He was, and you hoped that 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: he would have been part of the future. But this 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: was the fear. When he gets to the open market, 142 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna come with the big money, the Christian Kirk money, 143 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the Calais Campbell money years ago. This is the risk 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: of allowing a player to get to the open market. 145 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: So I think you could really contend that in hindsight, 146 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: was Zach Allen a deal that should have been done 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: by Halloween last year? And is it one of the 148 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: reasons the Cardinals made a change of GM. Quite honestly, 149 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: if we're in the trust tree, that's something that in 150 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: high site. They have no idea what the negotiations were 151 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but I'm guessing that the new GM 152 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: would have loved to have been the GM last season, 153 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: to perhaps be a little anticipated that and beat a 154 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: little preemptive and getting that deal done. Much more on 155 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: Zach Allen and his loss as we continue here on 156 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Read seat report presented by a seat geek 157 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: your ticket to great Seats. But when you talk about 158 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: defensive line now, the good news is is Zack is 159 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: not going to be within the division, not even within 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: the conference. However, Kyle, the big news, at least with 161 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: respects the division, that really raised my eyebrows was what 162 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers did, and that is give big 163 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: money to defend the tackle Javon Hargrave or reported four 164 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: years eighty four million with forty million guaranteed at signing 165 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: eleven sacks last season, one of the many free agents 166 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: that the Philadelphia Eagles had, one of the many names 167 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 1: that people were hoping perhaps the Arizona Cardinals would take 168 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: a run at. But now you're going to face sim 169 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: twice a year along with Nick Bosa and Eric Harmstead 170 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: on that D line. Yeah, it's concerning for a number 171 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: number of reasons. Look, we just have got to find 172 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: quality bodies here in free agency. We have to plug 173 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: a couple of holes. We have to check a couple 174 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: of boxes, particularly on the defensive front. Could be four 175 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: new starters across the defensive front or three or whatever 176 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: front we have next year. And I mean, I'm just 177 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: looking at a list right now of D tackles that 178 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: are left in All of them are either on the 179 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: back half of their twenties or early thirties. Good players 180 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: in there, but they're they're they're stop gap guys. So 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: it's something I hope that they address soon, at least 182 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: check one of the boxes, get a start, or look 183 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: where Jonathan Gannon came from. We all know how disruptive 184 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Phillies front was, but part of the reason they were 185 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: so disruptive was their depth. They had quality players going 186 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: too sometimes three deep at each position, and we're sitting 187 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: here with very little to no depth. I mean, we've 188 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: got good players, we've got good young and up and 189 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: coming players that we hope we'll get close to reaching 190 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: their ceiling this coming season or the season after. But 191 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: what we need is some quality depth, and we need 192 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: to start finding in now. And then on the other 193 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: side of that coin, you're talking about San fran and 194 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: how they just keep adding. It's what they do every year. 195 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: They either draft so many other defensive line in the 196 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: first or second round, or they bring in a big 197 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: name free agent, and it's how they're built. So we've 198 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: got to very soon, very quickly in this offseason, shore 199 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: up the inside of our offensive line from center to 200 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: both guards and find some people that can block some 201 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: of these disruptors that some of the other teams in 202 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: our division have. Hardgrave grows from Philadelphia to San Francisco, 203 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: the Seahawks dipping their toe into that defensive line market. 204 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: Raymond Jones, the former Denver Bronco three years fifty one 205 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: million that coming down earlier on Tuesday, any other news 206 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: within the division or just overall, Paul as far as 207 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: seeing Patrick Peterson now going to be wearing at Pittsburgh 208 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: Steelers uniform, we did get solution. Jimmy Garoppolo is out 209 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: of the division and going to be a Las Vegas rader. 210 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: A lot of movements around the league, but everyone's focused 211 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: on what the Cardinals are doing in so far not doing. 212 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals are going to play against Patrick Peterson for the 213 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: third straight year. That's the way that works out. As 214 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: for the forty nine Ers, to Kyle's point, I think 215 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: of everything they've invested over the last decade in that 216 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: defensive front, whether it's the Forrest Buckner and Eric Armstead. 217 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: Even Javon kin Law was a first round pick twenty twenty. 218 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: He's been a bust, which I think is one of 219 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: the reasons they went after Javon Hargrave. But John Lynch 220 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan, they emphasize the defensive line, There's no 221 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: question about that. And so look, the loss is Zach Allen. 222 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: They need along the offensive line. Cardinals have to build 223 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: from the inside out. And if you tell me the 224 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals trade out of number three, because they get an 225 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: extra first round pick or two, or maybe a high 226 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: second round pick or two. I think this would be 227 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: a driving reason. You need quantity as much as you 228 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: need quality. And so we'll see what happens between now 229 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: and draft Day. But if the Cardinals do pull the 230 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: trigger and trade out at number three, because you know 231 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: our marketing matra Az needs three, three quarterbacks, viable quarterbacks 232 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. There's most definitely two. 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: If a team feels like there's three and they make 234 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals an offer they can't refuse, well, that's the 235 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 1: benefit as they have those extra picks. I think to 236 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: rebuild in the trenches. Well, one of those names that 237 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: we had talked about on previous shows was offensive line 238 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: Kyle and looking at the center position and connecting the 239 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: dots and connecting Drew pets Ing with Ethan Posic. But 240 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: Ethan is staying with the Cleveland Browns, doesn't get to 241 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: the new league year. But there's also a loss in 242 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco. They're losing Mike McGlinchey, they're starting right tackle. 243 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: He is going with Zach Allen to the Denver Broncos. 244 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: So so movement along the trenches I think more so 245 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: than wide receiver. Jacobe Myers was the first wide receiver 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: off the board, and that happened earlier on Tuesday. But 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: you're looking at team shoring up the offensive line and 248 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: defensive line first and foremost. Yeah, and it's it's exactly 249 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: what Montias fort Jonathan Gain and what they said they 250 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: want to do, build this team from inside out. Well, 251 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: you know they've got some work to do. Well, we've 252 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: got to get some bodies and we've got to get 253 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: some talent. Just looking at the other notable stuff that 254 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: pertains to the Cardinals to a degree, well in two ways. 255 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: You look, Jalen Ramsey's leaving and thank goodness. Look the 256 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: Rams are done. They they they're just getting rid of 257 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: all of their valuable assets. You know, Matthew Stafford's rumored 258 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: to be on the trade block if if anybody's interested, So, 259 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, you might end up back in Seattle. The 260 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Rams that won the Super Bowl. This 261 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: team will not resemble that team in any sort of way. 262 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: So that's good. But interestingly, I mean, you're looking at 263 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: a player that's still playing at an elite level at 264 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: one of the most coveted positions in the sport of football, 265 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: and they only got a third round pick for Jalen Ramsey. 266 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: So here we sit and everybody's wondering what's gonna happened 267 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins, And I know we're gonna address that later, 268 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: but it makes you wonder what the value is. And 269 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: it's so funny how year to year, you know, some 270 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: teams will give up multiple first round draft picks for 271 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: a player that's a premier player's positions, and then the 272 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: next year it's like there's no interest in a really 273 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: good player, will go for a six or seventh round 274 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: draft pick. So it'll be interesting to see how that 275 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: plays out and whether, you know, DeAndre Hopkins will be 276 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: back with the Cardinals, what they could get for him 277 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: in a trade. You know, all of those answers are 278 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: going to come here in a very short time. There's 279 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: been more movement Paul, as far as backup quarterback is concerned. 280 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: We've mentioned Jimmy Garoppolo go into the Raiders. Well, the 281 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: forty nine ers picked up Sam Donald who had been 282 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: with the Panthers, but Taylor Heinekey on the move, Jared Stidham, 283 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Mike white Case, Keenum Nick Mullins is resigning with the Vikings. 284 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: But I just rattled off six names right there as 285 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: far as teams looking at a number two quarterback, and 286 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette does not have a deal done yet. So 287 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: where does that leave the Cardinals? Because you got a 288 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: figure between Kyler Murr and whatever is ailing Colt McCoy 289 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: and it's definitely gonna curtail his off season, and the 290 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: OTA's Cardinals definitely you would think are in the market 291 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: for a veteran quarterback. So what about it? What about 292 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: the guy that Drew Petsy knows really well, Maybe he 293 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,119 Speaker 1: won't get that starting type gig somewhere like we speculated 294 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: last week with Drew Stanton. Maybe he's just waiting as 295 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: we all are, for Aaron Rodgers to make a decision. 296 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: The biggest domino to fall here in free agency, this 297 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: is the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. Darkness snapped the staffer. 298 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: They get the playoffs straight, dropped back ass time, pump dog. 299 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: It's hit ant sack by Alan back in the twenty 300 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: nine yard line of the Cardinals force a font with 301 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: the screen and it picked off Alan on the far 302 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: sides got it at the thirty can't the twenty and 303 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: the fifteen and tackled by Dalton at the eleven yard line. 304 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: The ball comes out and it's scooped up by Zach 305 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: Allen at the five and INDI ends up pour the touchdown. 306 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: Bat Field and Trouble steps up hit ant sack by 307 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Zach Allen back at the twenty yard line. Matfield pre 308 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: step drop past time, throws right side Bettett down in complete. 309 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: Zach Allen, Boy, what a game he's had. Matfield's gonna 310 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: throw Pettitt in the year again, this time by Allan 311 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Hennison complete. Zach Allen got a hand up Befall hits 312 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: the ground in complete. Cardinals takeover on downs. This one 313 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: is gonna hurt unless we find out what the Cardinals 314 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: plan is moving forward. But in the moment, gentlemen, losing 315 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: Zach Allen. The question was Kenny stay health and I 316 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: think the past two seasons. Yeah, he's been missing some games, 317 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: but a buying large he has been a mainstay the 318 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: last two seasons. In this past season, overall, a career 319 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: high ten tackles for loss, plus he set career highs 320 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: and sacks, quarterback hits, passes defense, the letter of which 321 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: he had eights, which finished tied among defensive lineman and 322 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: no longer because, as we talked about a quoting to 323 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: or Zach Allen on his way of the Denver Broncos, 324 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: three years, forty five million and change thirty two and 325 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: a half guaranteed a huge hole alphol on that D line, 326 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: and we all started to get cold feet. Maybe beginning 327 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: of this week, NFL dot com put out their list 328 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: of the top free agents available. Three of the top 329 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: four where Eagles players, and then Zach Allen was number 330 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: eight overall. You're like, wow, okay, but you read off 331 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: the numbers, and then we watched every snap every game, 332 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: and I think we all agree he was disruptive. He 333 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: was a problem. If he wasn't in the backfield, if 334 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't making a tackle and stuffing a running back, 335 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: he was knocking down a pass, he was get in 336 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: the face of a quarterback. It was a big deal. 337 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: I know. Marcus Spears. I saw him on ESPN doing 338 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: his preview of the top four defensive lineman available. He 339 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: had John Hargrave in there and he got around to 340 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: Zach Allen and I'm quoting loosely Marcus Spears, and ESPN 341 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: said I know everybody's not paying attention to Zach Allen 342 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: because he's not one of those household names. But once 343 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: he gets that bag, he will be a household name. 344 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: And he went on to conclude and say, I think 345 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: this is the second coming of Trey hendrickson the Bengals standout, 346 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: which I thought was an interesting comparison, and the way 347 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: he's flourished since he came to Cincinnati. So we'll see. 348 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: He followed vanced Joseph up to Denver and they appear 349 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: to be closer to winning. Don't know if that had 350 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: as much to do it. It is just the sheer money. 351 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Obviously he got paid and there's a lot of guaranteed 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: money in there as well. Fifteen million season, and you 353 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: go back a year ago, Colin. The big name that 354 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: was with the Arizona Cardinals and everyone was surprised was 355 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk at getting eighteen million. Now Kirk backed that 356 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: up with a one thousand yards season. Zach Allen now 357 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: needs to back it up. How were or how close 358 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: was the decision for Zach Allen. We'll have to wait 359 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: and hear from Zach himself. I'm sure the Cardinals had 360 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: of had interest just based on the fact that J. J. 361 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: Watt retires. Now you've got Zach Allen gone for Chard 362 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: Lawrence and Lucky fote Tore you're only two players with 363 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: any significant plane experience on that d line that are 364 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: signed for next season. Yeah, there's there's definitely a hole. 365 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: But you know, to me, look front offices and scouts. 366 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: They look at a player and I remember having a 367 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: conversation with my defensive line coach in Tennessee, and they 368 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: want to They want to put an arrow based upon 369 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: where you're at in your career. Your arrow is either 370 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: going up. Your arrow is completely sideways, which means he's 371 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: kind of breeched his ceiling. He might maintain that, or 372 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: the arrow's going down, means you're probably on the back 373 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: half of your career. You've done some good things, but 374 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: your play is going to steadily decline. Look, Zach Allen 375 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: has gotten better every single year. Zach Allen has shown 376 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: that he continues to improve. He has shown that he 377 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: can stay healthy. Now. Look, I understand he missed a 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: few games last year, but it was a hand injury. 379 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: I think the biggest concern was his foot ankle problems, 380 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: especially with a guy his size and a defensive tackle him. 381 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: He's healed from that, he's put that behind him. He 382 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't have any issues with that last offseason. And you 383 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: know he's on the inside. He's strong, he's disruptive, he's 384 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: active with his hands. It seems like he's always making 385 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: something happen on the inside. And he was a sponge, 386 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, listening and observing J. J. Watt, and he 387 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: picked up part of his game. He started batting down 388 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: passes when he couldn't get there on his pass rush 389 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and affected games that way. And to me, my favorite part, 390 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: and this is something close to my heart, is Look, 391 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Zach Allen did get injured again last year. That shouldn't 392 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: be a knock on him. If you watched the play 393 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: he got injured on. He ran all the way to 394 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: the sideline, made made a effort hustle play on a 395 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: running back and another he caught friendly fire from a 396 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: teammate and broke his hand. So you love the way 397 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: he's wired. He's a great locker room guy. You wish 398 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: him the best. He's not the kind of guy that 399 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: you know was a problem in your locker room. All 400 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: he wanted was money. He's leaving good riddens you you 401 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure every single player in the Cardinals 402 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: locker room and every coach and anybody in the front 403 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: office that was around him, which assumes much success in 404 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: where he goes and what he does in Denver. Well 405 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: on the pash Pod owner Michael Bidwell said, and I quote, 406 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I had the notes right here were interested in resigning 407 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Zach Allen, and I think he wants to be here. 408 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: That's what he said last month, So there's no doubt 409 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: there was mutual interest. But then it comes down to 410 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: the dollars and when you're getting an average of fifteen 411 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: million per year and you're getting all that guaranteed money, 412 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: and Vance Joseph obviously values of Zach Allen. See if 413 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph doesn't go to Denver, to me, do the 414 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: Broncos offer that kind of money? Do they feel confident 415 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 1: enough without Zach Allen's longtime defensive coordinator in the building 416 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: vouching for him. So to me, that was the key 417 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: and that getting that deal done. And you know what, 418 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: maybe and it was hard to maybe foresee that sort 419 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: of money coming, and that sort of guaranteed money coming 420 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: until Vance Joseph went to an opponent that had a 421 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: need along the defensive front. So now the Cardinals have 422 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: a need along that defensive mentioned the Seahawks earlier in 423 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: the week signing Draymont Jones three years, fifty one fifty 424 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: one million, while they just made a couple of moves 425 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: earlier today and they released two defensive lineman Shelby Harris 426 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: who they acquired from the Broncos and the Russell Wilson 427 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: trade a year ago, and Quentin Jefferson who had five 428 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: and a half sacks in seventeen games last season. Whether 429 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: there's interest or not, but just two names to keep 430 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: an eye on on that defensive line offensive line for 431 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. We talked about Kelvin Beecham being back according 432 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: to reports, we do know DJ Humphries will be back, 433 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: and prior to the news Beach's return, Humphries was the 434 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: only one on that starting line signed for next season. 435 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannett, Cardinals new head coach, on his left tackle. 436 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: I have a very high opinion of DJ. I know 437 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: Clayton and Chris are ready to work with him. He's 438 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: been a really good player for a long time. Had 439 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,239 Speaker 1: to go against him a couple of different times, and 440 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: he's a tough matchup for outside edge players in the 441 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: pass and run game. And he's got phenomenal football character. 442 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: And you know, he's a guy I've already leaned on 443 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: since I've been in the job to gain some information 444 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: and pick his brain a little bit, and he's been 445 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: great with me. So excited that he's on the Arizona Cardinals. 446 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: On the Arizona Cardinals, But do we know where along 447 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: that offensive line? We assume it's going to be left tackle. 448 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: That's where he has played. But in his absence last season, 449 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: remember Humphrey's only played eight games. A year ago, Josh 450 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: Jones played left tackle and played it very well with 451 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: Beach him back, though, do you move Jones to right tackle? 452 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Is there a competition at right tackle, or do you 453 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: try what the Cardinals did a couple of years ago, 454 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: Kyle and have Jones play inside at right guard, which 455 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: he did, or maybe left guard, which he has not done. 456 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: But he is a natural left tackle and spoke very 457 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: highly about wanting to be on the left side when 458 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: he addressed the media in early December. Yeah, look, DJ 459 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: Humphries when he's been on the field, I know he 460 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: missed a good chunk of last season. He's been really good, 461 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: really really good. I mean two seasons ago he was 462 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl as a left tackle, which says 463 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot about his play. I don't think you mess 464 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: with him. He's he You've got a left tackle and 465 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: it's DJ Humphries. Now the question is what to do 466 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: with Josh Jones, And I think, you know, conventional wisdom 467 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: says you've got your two starting tackles. Let's try to 468 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: move him into guard. But if he doesn't fit at guard, 469 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: I think you opened up the competition at right tackle. 470 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: Just because we signed Calvin Beecham does not mean he's 471 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: he's the starting right tackle. And look, Calvin Beacham is 472 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: great last year. I already threw a lot of flowers 473 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: at him earlier in this show. But you know, the 474 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: money the contract says not necessarily starting right tackle. It 475 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: says you're a part of the picture. You may be 476 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: our swing tackle, you maybe our starting tackling. You know, 477 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: from day one when Jonathan Gannon was hired, he said, 478 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: I want competition at every position. So you know, while 479 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: we're talking about holes at the starting positions, we he's 480 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: looking for quality players that are going to push for reps, 481 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 1: push for starting positions push for playing time, and you know, 482 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: maybe Josh Jones is that guy where you know, day 483 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: one of the offseason, you say, we see you as 484 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: a tackle, we see you possibly our starting right tackle. 485 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: Let's go out there and see where this competition goes. Look, 486 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: in two twenty one, Josh Jones was forced to play guard, 487 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: a lot of right guard didn't go well. He didn't 488 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: play a lot of guard in two twenty two, and 489 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: that was by design, that was a result of what 490 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: happened in two twenty one. But he's so much more 491 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: comfortable on the left side to your point, Craig, and 492 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: he's made that known that we wondered at the end 493 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: of last season on Big Red Rage and Beyond and 494 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: here on the Red Sea Report, Hey, um, do you 495 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: think Josh Jones could be a left guard? Because he 496 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: had played a lot of right guard, and towards the 497 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: end of last season, I asked some of the offensive 498 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: coaches in that area. They were skeptical. They think his 499 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: future as at tackle. So to Kyle's point, I'm guessing 500 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: they put him back out of right tackle. Here's the thing. 501 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: He got beat out for that right tackle spot last 502 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: season pretty soundly, pretty immediately by Kelvin Beecham, wasn't much 503 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: of a contest. Sort of reminds me back in the 504 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: day when a Q Shipley they bring in young centers 505 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: and are Shipley. By the time they got to the 506 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: red and white scrimmage, it was no longer a competition. 507 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see. We'll see what sort of gains Josh 508 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: Jones makes. But obviously this is a huge offseason in 509 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: a critical year in his career. Can he get traction 510 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: in the league as a tackle? His final season under 511 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: contract for the Arizona Cardinals and Josh Jones again late 512 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: December asked about playing left tackle. Quote, I just feel comfortable. 513 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I can be more aggressive over there. 514 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: It just feels like home over there. End quote. Now 515 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: that was talking about tackle. Whether it's left versus right 516 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: to you Truman guard on the left side, or is 517 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: to your point, do you go, hey, it's a competition 518 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: at right tackle Josh Jones and Calvin Beecham best man win. 519 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: I think that's the case. But you know, to me, 520 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: the bigger question is who we're going to get at center. 521 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: I think we need a veteran presence at center, particularly 522 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: if we're gonna rely on one of our young guards 523 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: from last year's draft, or drafting a young offensive lineman 524 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: to plug in a rookie centers. That's a tall task. 525 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: So I think you need some veteran presence at the 526 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: center position. So the Browns went with Ethan posk, the 527 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: guy who replaced an injured Nick Harris, Nick Harris healthy, 528 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: who was the original starter of the Browns last year. 529 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Perhaps he comes with Drew Patsy. Perhaps we were focused 530 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: on the wrong Browns center. We connect the dots here. 531 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: It's the Cardinals Red Sea Report, presented by SeatGeek, your 532 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: ticket to great Seats. This is the Arizona Cardinals where 533 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: you do network. Robert Downey Junior. It's a fake handoff 534 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: rolling right as Stafford looking back to the left, throwing 535 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: a deep ball farside for DeShawn Jackson, and it's picked 536 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: off inside the fifteen yard line. Alpaccino, it's Byron Murphy. 537 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: He's tackled around the twelve Byron Murphy, the NFC defensive 538 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: player of the week. We had two picks last week, 539 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: gets one here on Stafford in the first quarter. Okay, 540 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: so now this is Wolf talking to do it first 541 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: as Wolf oh, Byron Murphy, badd Matthew Stafford to throw 542 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: that ball and then broke on the ball on an 543 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: unbelievable play from Byron Murphy and slowly starting to turn 544 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: into Jesse the body Ventura all right and base Snonian 545 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: all right? And then I have one line after that. 546 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Let's do that line of shack Man. Murphy's playing like 547 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: a pro bowler the first month of the season. It's 548 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. Let talents. The one and only Frank Aliando 549 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: on the Dave hash podcasts. The question is, though, will 550 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: he be able to do that which he does yearly 551 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: with David It's good? Will he be able to still 552 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: impersonate a play call of Byron Murphy? That is the 553 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: question here on the Cardinal's Red Sea Report. Ever since 554 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: that performance by Kaliando in the Pashpot, I cannot say 555 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: the name or hear the name Byron Murphy without thinking 556 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: about Byron Murphy. I mean, just some sort of iteration. 557 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: I can't just say it or hear it straight anymore. 558 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: It's always in one of those voices. Well, to be honest, Kyle, 559 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: it's the first time I've heard Byron Murphy's name this 560 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: week in free agency the legal tampering period began on Monday, 561 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: and he was one of the big names as far 562 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: as the Cardinals unrestricted to free agents to be yet, 563 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard any interests, let alone from the Cardinals, 564 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: but any other team associated or tied to Byron Murphy. 565 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: Now you're right, it's it's surprising. As Shack just said, 566 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: he was a leading VP candidate after about a month 567 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: of the season. So, I mean, he you know, we've 568 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: seen his upside, We've seen what he can do, We've 569 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: seen how he looks lined up across from other team 570 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: number one receivers and what it can do for our defense. 571 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: You know, the question is do the Cardinals know, do 572 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: other teams know more than I know? You know or 573 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: we know about his back injury, about the reason he 574 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: missed a large chunk of the season, about what it 575 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: might mean for his future, or is that just nothing? 576 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean typically you know I said this earlier, but 577 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: cornerbacks are one of the premier positions and they're so 578 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: hard to find. And if there is any that are 579 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: available that are good cornerbacks that can cover and make 580 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: a difference and shut down number one receivers, they get 581 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: snatched up pretty quickly, and the and the money flows 582 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: pretty fast. So you know, it's surprising that we haven't 583 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: heard anything. Look, it's still early. I'm sure we will 584 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: hear something, but yeah, I mean it would be it 585 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: would be nice to get him back. But you know, again, 586 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: the fact that a player hits free agency and then 587 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: all a sudden you have a bidding war against thirty 588 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: one other teams, it's going to be difficult to keep 589 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: up with that. Here's my question. I'm gonna put Kyle 590 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: on the spot, ready, agree, is Byron Murphy went healthy 591 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: a true number one corner in the NFL because your 592 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: new head coach, Jonathan Gannon comes from an Eagles defense 593 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: or he had Darius Slay, James Bradberry. That's his area 594 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: of specialty, that defensive backfield. Jonathan Gannon, I wonder when 595 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: he watched the film, especially here in the air, when 596 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy was playing some good ball, There's no doubt 597 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: about it. But I wonder if he sees a true 598 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: future number one corner that, let's face it, team Byron 599 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: Murphy is seeking that sort of money from what we understand, 600 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: So maybe that's where the stalemate is. Not only were 601 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals but the entire market. Well, I'm not gonna 602 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: answer it, yes or no. He was becoming one. He 603 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: had shown flashes of being a true number one possibly 604 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: lockdown corner, wasn't quite there yet, and then the injury happened. 605 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: So it just you know, talent evaluators do a fantastic job. 606 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: They'll look at the film, they will see what things 607 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: they can improve, what things he's already you know, he's 608 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: maxed out. If he's hit a ceiling and he's not there, 609 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: they will recognize that. But you've got to think, I mean, 610 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: we talk about arrows and again, or I talked about 611 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: arrows again season his arrow was pointing up. It looked 612 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: like he was phenomenal. It looked like he was the 613 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: best player on the Cardinals defense through about four or 614 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: five six games last season. So you know, you gotta think. 615 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I don't know they he'll get number one corner money 616 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: because of the injury and because of the uncertainty, but 617 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: he very possibly could. It was a Friday, Week eight 618 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: before the trip to Minnesota when Byron Murphy showed up 619 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: on the injury report with that back issue. Played the 620 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: following week against the Seahawks in Week nine, but then 621 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: didn't see the field the rest of the season, and 622 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: to me, that's the big unknown. And we have seen 623 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: bier Murphy within the facility. He was at Jonathan Gannon's 624 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: introductory press conference. But that back issue with something Vance 625 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: Joseph brought up a couple of times during the season 626 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: when we asked for updates. You might feel good, then 627 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you stuff for a setback in backs. 628 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's not an easy injury to diagnose shin 629 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: alone rehab from. And you understand why the other teams 630 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: in the league, the thirty one other teams would be 631 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: really hesitant, be really apprehensive about investing long term and 632 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: a player who hasn't been in their building. They don't 633 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: have a full understanding of the back injury. Heck, we 634 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: don't even know if the Cardinals have a true understanding 635 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: of the severity of the back injury. For that reason, 636 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: and I think maybe we're seeing the beginning stages of 637 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: this is that there's no long term deal out there 638 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: for Byron Murphy in the shadow of this sort of injury, 639 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: and then maybe his best option is on to prove 640 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: it one year deal, stay home with the Cardinals where 641 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna. He will be the number one corner at 642 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: this point, and so he can prove himself and then 643 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: take that game film to market next year. I wouldn't 644 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: be shocked if he gets a one year deal for 645 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: good money, but not the long term security he's looking for, 646 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: just because that's not a viable alternative for a team 647 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: out there in lieu of that injury. At the moment, 648 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: Cardinals have Marco Wilson, Christian Matthew and Nate Harrison who 649 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: ended last season on practice squad as far as cornerback position, 650 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: so certainly don't know much about Bayern Murphy's future. The 651 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: future of DeAndre Hopkins still very much in the air, 652 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: and we've already heard we mentioned earlier in the show, 653 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey traded from the Rams to the Dolphins for 654 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: a third round pick. Well earlier as we speak, according 655 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: to reports, the Raiders have shipped tight end Darren Waller 656 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: to the Giants for a third round pick. Cardinals, certainly, 657 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 1: according to reports, Kyle would like a haul if you will, 658 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins. But if we're seeing Ramsey traded and 659 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: Darren Waller traded for a third round pick, does the 660 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: if the decision is to move on from number ten. 661 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: What do you get? Maybe what your hope for is 662 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: not what you end up getting in return from another team. 663 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: It's a tough situation. Look, I think they should get 664 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: a haul for him. You know, we've all had front 665 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: row seats and saw the amazing things that DeAndre Hopkins 666 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: can do. We saw the impact he had on the 667 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals in his first game back from suspension. We saw 668 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: when he's covered, he's not covered, he can make phenomenal 669 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: catches as tremendous body control. So um. But yeah, it's uh, 670 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: you know to me this this team is in a rebuild. 671 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: This team we talked earlier about offensive line, defensive line, 672 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: how many holes we have to fill. You know, I 673 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: would take you know, draft picks we need. We need 674 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: other bodies. And I'm not sure a thirty year old, 675 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, even if we have the best receiver in football, 676 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: which he may still be, he may be around there, 677 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it helps us get that many more 678 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: wins this year. But you know, filling out the roster, 679 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: having quality depth at other positions, I think that helps 680 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: us get wins more than having the best receiver in football. 681 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: I think working in the Cardinals stable right now supply 682 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: and demand. The rate was traded Darren Waller. He had 683 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: another injury plague season. He makes big money, didn't have 684 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: as much production as he had in the past. And 685 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: guess what, this year's draft is loaded at tight end. 686 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: That's not the case a receiver, and that's not the 687 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: case in terms of free agency at receiver. It's then 688 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: on both counts. So to me, if you're a team 689 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: who thinks you're a number one wide receiver away you know, 690 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: Bills who needed Stefan Diggs for example, you know you 691 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: hear that team. You know the Raiders went after Davante 692 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: Adams and obviously what Tyreek Hill did for the Dolphins. 693 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: If you're that team, if you're the Giants, who's your 694 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: number one receiver? Right now? They part a ways with 695 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay. Cleveland has been all over DeAndre Hopkins, reuniting 696 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: him with Deshaun Watson. Dallas, you're Jerry Jones recent comments 697 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: about they made a mistake not getting enough for Amari 698 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: Cooper or you know, fortifying the receiver room, and maybe 699 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: even DeAndre Hopkins was in Dallas working out trying to 700 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: speak that into existence. Who knows Baltimore, Kansas City, Tennessee. 701 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: These are all teams. I think the Cardinals do have 702 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: a really good shot at at least at least a 703 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: second round pick for DeAndre Hopkins. Maybe I'm being unrealistic 704 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: over here. We started this offseason thinking maybe a low 705 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: first round pick, but I think a second round pick 706 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins is definitely in play because I think 707 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: you have enough teams and not enough supply of young 708 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: receivers and or proven receivers out there. Cardinals parted ways 709 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: with the eighteenth overall pick to acquire Hollywood Brown. You're 710 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna tell me that you can't come up with a 711 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: late round draft pick, first round draft pick for DeAndre Hopkins, who, 712 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: even despite the age gap, is a better receiver than Hollywood. Hey, 713 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: how about New England just traded away Jacoby Myers to 714 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders or they lost Jacobe Myers to the Raiders 715 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: in free agency. Who's the Patriots number one receiver? And 716 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: we know the affection, the affinity between Belichick and DeAndre Hopkins. 717 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: There's the Bill O'Brien factor. Now I don't know how 718 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: that plays out exactly because he's on the staff in 719 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: New England, but you can't tell me that Patriots and 720 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: Coach Belichick aren't thinking strongly about calling the Cardinals of 721 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: Manias and Ford about DeAndre Hopkins. T hop will be 722 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: thirty one in June, so thirty one when the season begins. 723 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: He is under contract for two more years, but no 724 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: guaranteed money on those last two years. We'll see what 725 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: the decision is as we get closer and closer. Of course, 726 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: the decision will be coming at the end of April. 727 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: Cardinals on the clock at number three, do they stay there? 728 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 1: That's ahead here on the Arizona Cardinals, where you do network, 729 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: everybody talks. It's about the effort that he gives turns 730 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: into a Superno Wow, Wellerson doing damn Anderson. It will 731 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: be simple full ration Bill Anderson with the sack round Baba. 732 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: Though we talked about do you double Indian ship bim Wolf, Sure, 733 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: zech is. One thing you can't do is just leave 734 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: him one on one torned under Letter's the best pass 735 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: rusher we've seen in college football in a long time. 736 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: Quarterback we're keeping and gets taken down. Will Anderson Junior 737 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: playing it way business Isabel Anderson Junior touchdown, the two 738 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: time winner of the Bronco Nagurski Award, given it the 739 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: nation's top defensive player. Will Anderson out of Alabama six 740 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: foot four, two hundred and forty three pounds, he can 741 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,720 Speaker 1: be had with the third overall pick. As we welcome 742 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: you back to the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented. Buy 743 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: a seat, kiek your ticket to great seats. We know 744 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks Kyle are going to go one and two, the 745 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: Bears parting ways with that first overall pick, trading with 746 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: the Panthers. Panthers now on the clock at number one, 747 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: sitting at number two, the Texans, Both those teams need 748 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And as a former edge rusher yourself, when 749 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: you look at Will Anderson, how tempting is it to 750 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: just stay there despite teams perhaps calling to move up 751 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the Colts at number three and say, all right, 752 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: what's it going to take to part with a Will Anderson? 753 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: Because edge rushers they don't grow on trees, especially as 754 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: one as talented as Will Anderson. Now you're right what 755 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: he has. You don't have to guess how he's gonna 756 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: look what he's gonna how he's gonna fit into your defense. Um, 757 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: he's been highly productive, really at the highest level of 758 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 1: college football. Um, he's been consistent, he's he's disruptive, he's uh, 759 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's got a good motor. So he's 760 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: the kind of guy you want. This is exactly, you know, 761 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,439 Speaker 1: the kind of player that the Arizona Cardinals need pass 762 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: rushing off the edge. Now saying that, you know, look, 763 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: we sit in a great position at number three. Um, 764 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, depending on where you look, there's there's so 765 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: many mock drafts out there. Um, you know, there could 766 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: be four quarterbacks taken with the first four picks, and 767 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: so we could still move back and still possible get 768 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: Will Anderson. So you know, there's so many scenarios that 769 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: could present themselves for the Arizona Cardinals. You know, I'm 770 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: a big believer right now with where we're at, we 771 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: need to hit this. Look, we need to draft well, 772 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: but we need to hit it with quantity. We need 773 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: to get a lot of bodies in here create that 774 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: type of competition. And really, I mean there's there's so 775 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: many holes. You know, we talk about offensive line, defensive line, 776 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: but there's others on this roster as well that we 777 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: need some talent on this roster. So if we can 778 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 1: accumulate draft picks, whether it be by trading back, you 779 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: know and hopefully still getting a Will Anderson, or even 780 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: trading back and getting you know, multiple picks. That may 781 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: be the route that we need to go. Panthers at 782 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: number one, yep, Texans at two, yep. They need quarterbacks. 783 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are going one two in this draft. Colts at 784 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: number four, they need a quarterback. And I'll even add 785 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks at number five. Yeah, Gino Smith's signed, but 786 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: it's a two year deal. It's not some long term investments. 787 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 1: You can make a case that four of the first 788 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: five teams Paul are looking at that quarterback position. Yeah, 789 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks can get out of that that Gino Smith 790 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 1: deal really after one year, and most definitely after two. 791 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: It's not very onerous or a punitive for them to 792 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: get out of that deal. So it's really incentive Leyden 793 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: for Geno Smith. It's very team friendly. So but you 794 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: know what, the best thing I've heard all day guys 795 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: earlier this morning, I think it goes Dan Grasiano and 796 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: ESPN said, and I quote, Indie is desperate because they 797 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: know that quarterbacks are going one two. Indianapolis sits at four. 798 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals can somehow parlay that desperation into a 799 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,760 Speaker 1: deal where you know what, Indianapolis attention, Chris Ballard, the GM, 800 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: you need to come up to number three, to Kyle's point, 801 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: then you get an extra pick or two whatever whatever 802 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: it is. You're still sitting there at number four. You 803 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: get your guy and extra picks, so you get the 804 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: quality and the quantity. That is by far to me, 805 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: the best case scenario for the Arizona Cardinals, and it 806 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: might just come to fruition with each passing day, in 807 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: each passing move in this market, it looks more and 808 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: more likely based on if Indianapolis wants to get because 809 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 1: as Will levis really a top three or is Anthony 810 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: Richardson going to be that guy? The best thing to 811 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: happen for the Cardinals I think was an Anthony Richardson 812 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: just blew that combine workout out of the water. And 813 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: now there's even speculation that Anthony Richardson might be the 814 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: number one player drafted overall, believe it or not. After 815 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,239 Speaker 1: the Seahawks at five, you got the Lions at six? 816 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: Is Jared Goffey answer? In Detroit, the Raiders are sitting 817 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: at number seven Yeah, they've got Jimmy Garoppolo, but that's 818 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: an older quarterback. To the Raiders, are they in play 819 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: for a QB? Look the first seven picks, the Atlanta 820 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: Falcons at eights, who knows what they're doing at this point? 821 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: And then we know the Bears are sitting at number nine. 822 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: They have Justin Field. So your first nine picks Kyler, 823 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: Murray and Justin Fields, those are the only certainties the Lions. 824 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: That's a great point. Think about the Lions, what's their 825 00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: future at quarterback? And whereas this offseason started with mock 826 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: drafts thinking, oh, the Lions at eighteen might take an 827 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, maybe they get Will Levis and no, neither 828 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: one of those guys who is going to be there 829 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: at eighteen. This reminds me of twenty nineteen when Kyler 830 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: went number one overall and everyone thought the Giants could 831 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 1: get Daniel Jones middle of the first round. No, they 832 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: had to come up to number six to get Daniel Jones. 833 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a similar scenario. Now. You love the 834 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: fact that quarterbacks just dominate the headlines, whether it's free 835 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: agency or the draft. Story of my life, man, quarterbacks 836 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: always get all the attention. But that's all right. They 837 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: take the majority of the blame. Two when things they 838 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: will go well, so they can have it. I can 839 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: see Will Anderson coming in and being tutored by Kyle 840 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: Van and Bosh. I've got about zero knowledge. Hey, when 841 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: Cam Thomas walked into this room, he stopped said hey, 842 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: Kyle Van and Bosh. There was some immediate reverence for 843 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: our guy over here. As they say. Just put it 844 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: on YouTube, Google Kyle Van and Bosh and you'll see 845 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: everything that he's able to do. Hey, this has been 846 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals reds Hee Report. We'll talk to you in 847 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: one week time. 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