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Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever faced anything quite as dramatic

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that I mean that was sort of my need.

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Speaker 5: To ask what would Olivia Pope do?

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Speaker 3: It comes out May ninth, Mother's Day weekend. Leaders of

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Speaker 5: On their heads. They pull out all the stops.

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Speaker 1: So how did you tap into their role? Did you?

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Speaker 2: I mean, thespian is just like an old world word.

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Speaker 1: Did you have to work out? You have to drive?

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Speaker 2: It was crazy, actually was very I've said to people.

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Speaker 4: It really stretched me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked your your co anchor a lot.

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Speaker 2: Omarcy from Lupin. Do you watch Lupin?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Wait, so when does it go from like your like?

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Speaker 2: So what I want you to remember is that you

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Speaker 2: But that's another thing actually that that really resonated for

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be looking. Everybody's gonna be looking for a

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Speaker 2: At so twenty years ago, not to date myself, but

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Speaker 2: I will. I'm want to be honest. Twenty years ago

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 4: I did a movie called mister.

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Speaker 4: A lot of water?

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Speaker 4: What are these incredible things?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, shacklicious gummies?

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Speaker 2: What's in these gummies? By the way, nothing, It's just candy. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I can take those to the kids. That's weird, Okay, great, amazing.

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Speaker 5: Shack's face is the gummy?

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Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Are you like you? Are you like on a special diet?

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Speaker 2: I am I on a special diet. I have a

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Speaker 3: You're never going to be shack.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to be gluten free.

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Speaker 1: Bro, I'm fifty three and I don't look at halfway here,

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Speaker 2: Can get no water, if I have a height, I'd

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Speaker 2: probably eat a lot more, though, because you can spread

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Speaker 1: I always told you like thirty something.

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Speaker 4: Well that's nice. I'm honored.

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Speaker 1: So are you going to do more roles like this?

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Speaker 4: I want to?

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Speaker 2: I mean, so that's what happened is twenty years ago

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