1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of The Doug Gottlieb 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: three to five Eastern twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: boxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR What Up, It's 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. You know, the progression 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: of events in our day, Jay stew I think is 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: it's normally not interesting to anybody, But today I think 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: it might be actually interesting. Right. And I say that 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: because you know, between you and I sharing notes all 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: day and then our discussion about an hour for the show, 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: you would think that we had nothing to talk about today. 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: You know, we're like three days away from the NBA Finals. 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: The only topic you can really go with with the 16 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: NBA Finals is like, how fired up are you considering 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: these are two sort of no name teams And look, 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm a big obviously basketball guy, basketball fan. I know 19 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: all these guys and so I'm gonna watch, but I'm 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: talking about more of the mainstream fan NFL wise, Like, 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: what are you going to go with Stefon Diggs and 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 1: the pink cocaine or are you going to talk about 23 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. College sports, I mean, college baseball is entertaining, 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: and there's lots of dramatic back and forth between umpires 25 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: and players and coaches and the NCAA and some of 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: these coaches, and then just the flamboyance of some of 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the players. Like Okay, Oklahoma loses in softball. I didn't 28 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: know that was actually possible. But some of the former 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: OU players are at Texas Tech, Who's bought this championship team. Like, 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: there's some interesting things you can go with. But when 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: you're when you're trying, I need to do a radio 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: show and ash'll show you're like, hey, let's find a 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: lead topic. Right, No, I don't know what a lead 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: topic always is, but this one was dropped in her 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: lap and it's a pretty good one. Tom Thibodau was 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: fired today as head coach or just recently just fired 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: as head coach of the New York Dicks. And what's 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: amazing about the TIBs thing is, I mean, there's just 39 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: so many different levels to it. The first part is 40 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: that just comes to my mind is gosh, golly, uh 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: I almost feel bad about, you know, kind of clowning. 42 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: Whoever asked Jalen Brunson the question this is going back 43 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: after they lose in the conference finals, there was a 44 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: question and Brunson kind of laughed it off when he 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: was asked, you know whether or not Tims was the guy. 46 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: You talked about the confidence? Obviously, I feel like nobody 47 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: takes more criticism than Tom and this team obviously has 48 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: turned around during his tenure. Do you kind of feel 49 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: that going forward he's the same guy if t you 50 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: guys the rest of the way at next level? 51 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: This is Is that a real question right now? 52 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: You just asked me if I believe that if he's 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 4: the right guy? 54 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Yes, thanks, guys, Come on, I mean I felt the 55 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: exact same way. Is that really a question? Is this 56 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: really a possibility now? If I'm being fair, how many 57 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: of us knew that Tibbs had been there for for 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: five years or that Tibbs guess his age? Okay, it's 59 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: sixty seven, right, But the Knicks reached the conference finals 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: for the first time in twenty five years. In his 61 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: fifth year, they won forty one, thirty seven, forty seven, 62 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: fifty fifty one games, they've gotten better every year, they 63 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: gotten further in the playoffs the last three years. I just, 64 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: I guess I'm still just stunned. And it doesn't mean 65 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: that it doesn't make some form of sense. Right notoriously 66 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: doesn't like to play his bench. They came upon a 67 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: deep team and they lost. But I think the mistake 68 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: here is that we're judging result, not judging process. We're 69 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: judging result, we're not judging process. And we can sit 70 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: here and he deserves some of the blame. And I 71 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: thought it was a poorly coached last fifty two seconds 72 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: when they're up nine points. But I mean, just not 73 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: guarding guys and missing free throws and turn the ball 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: over is not tips. It's just not is it? Does 75 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: it technically fall under your purview because you're the head coach? Yeah, 76 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: but any head coach tells you, he's like, what did 77 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: you want me to do? And what did you want 78 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: me to do? So let me get this straight. The Knicks, 79 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: who have been sort of a laughing stock organization, they finally, 80 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: finally finally seem to kind of figure some stuff out 81 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: and they make it to where they're at. They go conference, 82 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Semis Conference, Semis Conference, finals. They are climbing the ladder 83 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: of success, climbing the ladder of success. They promptly fired 84 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeaux after five seasons, which is the longest anybody 85 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: had lasted since Jeff van Gundy. But Van Gundy went 86 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Conference semis, Conference Semis, lost in the finals, lost in 87 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: the conference finals, lost in the first round. Then he 88 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: was fired early on the next season. It just kind 89 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: of worn out its welcome. I just I don't get it. 90 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't mean that Tom Thibodeau is the 91 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: only coach available. It doesn't mean he's the best coach 92 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: on earth. But he fit what they were trying to do. 93 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: It mirrored with his best player in Jalen Brunson. And 94 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: whether you want to judge judge it based upon results 95 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: or you want to judge it based upon the process, 96 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: the process was better. It was better. And unfortunately this 97 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: is what we do in the NBA. And I'm sure 98 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: that Tibbs had to sign off on the Carl Anthony 99 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: Towns trade. Hey remember Karla Anthony Towns was also a 100 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Leon Rose client. So the guy running the Knicks used 101 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: to be an agent, and a good one. And he's 102 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: a good dude. I don't know. I'm not somebody who 103 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: he was. He didn't rep me, but he rerepped friends 104 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: of mine, and everybody's like, he's a really good dude. 105 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I believe that. But this is choosing beers, choosing tibbs 106 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: over choosing the play. Towns have been catching a beating 107 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: because he didn't play much defense, doesn't appear in great shape, 108 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: and he took some bad shots, especially in that last game. 109 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: Jalalen Bruns did to taken a little bit of beating. 110 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: How many times had people said, hey, he's not good 111 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: enough to be your best player win a championship with 112 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: and we can, And there'll be people who say, and 113 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: this is not inaccurate. It is accurate that they only 114 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: beat the Celtics when the celtics best player got hurt, 115 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: But they were beating the Celtics regardless of that. Now 116 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: they had to come from twenty down. I just it 117 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: feels like a complete buzzkill to anyone trying to, as 118 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I have done, put a positive note and thought on 119 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: the next season. The Knicks had a successful season. They 120 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: won fifty one games, They got into the conference finals. 121 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: They got to game six of the conference finals. Now 122 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: that's judging result process wise, gotten better and better, and 123 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: they change the roster the best players bought in. Will 124 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: he win you a champion? With a coach win you 125 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: a championship? He's never gotten past the conference finals. I 126 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: understand that, But unless you're bringing in a proven guy 127 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: who's won conference championships and gotten do an NBA Finals 128 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: and won a conference championship, what are you actually doing? 129 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: And it shows a continuing loyalty to the players above 130 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: that of the coaches, above that of the coaches. It 131 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: does feel like Leon Rose is one listening to fans 132 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and then maybe maybe listening to Karl Anthony Towns, who's 133 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: this former client, And because he was taking such a 134 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: beating in the media, now this takes the blame off 135 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: of his shoulders. It puts the blame squarely on TIBs 136 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: for losing that last series. Whatever they say, it doesn't 137 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: actually matter. Reality of it is when you lose the 138 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: series in the conference finals. The furthest the Nicks had 139 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: gotten in twenty five years, especially the way and listen 140 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: Less lost Game one, and the first change you make 141 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: to is that of the head coach. You're blaming him 142 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: for the losses and again, I don't think it's fair, 143 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to lead with a well, it's 144 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: not fair. Life's not fair. Coaching is not fair. It's 145 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: a great job, a terrible profess. It's a great professional, 146 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: terrible job because you can have an incredibly successful year 147 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: and turn around everything within the franchise and they just 148 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: don't think you're good enough to get them over the 149 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: hump and they move on. The shams tweet was the 150 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: Knicks We're leaving Tom Thibodeau of his duties as head coach. 151 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Sources this uespn Tibbs led the Knicks to the first 152 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals in twenty five years, made the playoffs 153 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: four or five years, led the Knicks to fIF consecutive 154 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: fifty plus wins season for the first time since the nineties. 155 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: The Knicks are singularly focused in the pursuit of a 156 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: championship and believe a new voice will serve as the 157 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: focus for the organization's next step. Starts is said. After 158 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: five seasons with the Knicks, Tom Thibodeau is out as 159 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: head coach. I can only think of one guy who 160 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: has not one NBA championship who you should call, right, 161 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: You would think it'd be Jay Wright because he's coached 162 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: you know, two NCAA championship teams. Because he's a Philly 163 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: obviously not New York, but respect he's incredibly respected. You 164 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: got three Vanilla Villanova Wildcats, and I think Mike Malone 165 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: is probably the other guy. You could only hire somebody 166 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: who's won championships. If you're going to fire Tom Tipeau, 167 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: only do it because otherwise, like, what are we doing? 168 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: This is the best of the Done Dot Lead show 169 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio. 170 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. Look what you 171 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: did there? You knew we were having cuban. Ice Cube's 172 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: gonna join us. I want to thank God God, Mama 173 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: cook the breaks with no hog. Thanks Mom, appreciate that. 174 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: It's Doug Otutlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. So 175 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: ice Tube is going to join us in what is 176 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: it like five minutes? 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You know, we played football all the way 187 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: American football all the way through high school. We didn't 188 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 5: just tap it at one thing and just did one 189 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 5: thing all year round. And I think a lot of 190 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: kids burn they burned out. Do you just tell him, dude, 191 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 5: just okay, I'm gonna just do this one all year round. 192 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: I'm just playing basketball, or just play volleyball, or just 193 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 5: play soccer all year round. You burn out, you know 194 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 5: at twenty two, twenty three, twenty four, you know, because 195 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 5: you've just been doing it. Are young? Yeah, thirteen they starts, 196 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 5: you know, they done. I don't even want to play 197 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: no more. 198 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, I mean, 199 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: did my son's gone through that with basketball? Just this 200 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: there's got to be more life than just just hoop. 201 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: And he did play all those sports kind of growing up. 202 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: But you know, everybody said, you know, you got to 203 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of specialize. Whenever I think there's it's a hard one, 204 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: right because it's not fomo. But there's a reality too. 205 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: If you're not working on it, does it help you 206 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: in that sport? And guys are going to be better 207 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: if that's all that they do. I think a lot 208 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: of it comes to the high school coaches because the 209 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: high school coaches they don't mandate it, but they sort 210 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: of mandate it. But it's also how the high school 211 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: seasons and schedule comes out. I was a baseball player 212 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: and a football player growing up, as well as a 213 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: basketball player. Got to the high school, there's no way 214 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: you can do football and basketball just not really possible. 215 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: And there's definitely and basketball into baseball. I remember my 216 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: freshman year, and part of this is southern California. But 217 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: baseball starts like feb one, right, and the playoffs and 218 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: basketball go until March. So by the time you come 219 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: out for baseball, even if and I was making several 220 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: baseball practices a week, but by the time you come out, 221 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: like people already have their positions, they already kind of set, 222 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: and I wasn't good enough to come out and play. 223 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: So you're you know spot, you know, spot inning, spot 224 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: at bats, and then you get to the point like 225 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: what am I doing this for. I'm not that good 226 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: at it, and I'm not getting the opportunity to be 227 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: that good at it. So let's just focus on basketball 228 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: because with every practice I'm missing an opportunity to be 229 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: good at basketball. Do I think playing all those sports important? Yes? 230 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: I do. Do I think it's good for your body. 231 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: I do. I think soccer is great for people to 232 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: play all growing up. Unbelievable for your agility. It's a 233 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: physical sport to teach you spacing, you know, it's there's 234 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: obviously a great conditioning element to it. There's two types 235 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: of conditioning. It's not just about being able to run 236 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: around for a long time because you run slow. Then 237 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: you it's start and stop like like basketball, like football 238 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: in terms of speed and explosiveness. There's contact to it. 239 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of great things to it. What screws 240 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: it up is that you can literally play them year 241 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: round anywhere now and just because you can, mean some 242 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: do and they get ahead by playing that support more often, 243 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: and then the high school coach mandates it, and then 244 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: you kind of got to do it any But I 245 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: would also tell you that it's like, hey, here's the 246 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: issue with Lebron. Okay, so Lebron talks about what he 247 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: did growing up and how it worked for him. Lebron's 248 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: raised two sons. I don't know if Bryce did, I 249 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: don't know if Browny did. But I don't remember seeing 250 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: any video of them playing football or playing them playing 251 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: baseball or tennis or pickleball or anything. They just played basketball. 252 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: So you are a dad and he acts like and 253 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: I think he does a really good job being as 254 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: good a dad as he can possibly be. So why 255 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: not make your sons play those other sports? Why not? 256 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. 257 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: I could introduce him for his what he did in music, 258 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: what he's done in movies, or just as a personality. 259 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: Everyone knows who Ice Cbe is, and everyone knows the 260 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: Big Three, and the Big Three is back. It starts 261 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: June fourteenth in Chicago at Allstein Arena, live on CBS 262 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: and Vice TV. The One and only Ice Cube kind 263 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: of have to spend some time with us. Cube. How are 264 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: you hey? 265 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 6: What's up, Doug? How you doing? 266 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm good, bro? What's it like like you've been as 267 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: ingrained with these big name NBA players going back to 268 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: when you're making movies and producing music and recording music. 269 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Now obviously so many of them playing for you, But 270 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: we have an NBA Finals that's kind of devoid of 271 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: those big traditional names. What's it like for you, as 272 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: such a big basketball fan to watch the finals with 273 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: so many new faces. 274 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 6: Well, you know, I love basketball, so it's not really 275 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 6: for me about your your name as much of you 276 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 6: as it is about your game. So you know, these 277 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: are the best players that could do it. I guess 278 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 6: these are champions this year. 279 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can even tell in the sound of 280 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: your voice there's like a disappointment there. Right, gets great. 281 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: I'd still rather watch the dudes that I've watched the 282 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: last twenty years do it. 283 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 6: Without a doubt. You know, it's the finals you expect 284 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 6: to see, you know, a star studied event. Now you 285 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 6: just got to wait to the Big three stars. J't 286 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 6: forward ten to see a star studied event. 287 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of my point, which is it's 288 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: crazy the names that you're able to get to play 289 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: in the Big Three. What's it like it feels like again, 290 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: outsider looking in, it feels like, now, are you guys 291 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: asking as much or more selecting By that, I mean, 292 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, do you get are you to the point 293 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: where too many of the former stars want to play 294 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: and you get to select who's going to play? 295 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 6: Well, you know, we still ask the you know, the superstars, 296 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 6: because you never know what they want to do. Some 297 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 6: of them are really done. Some of them when they 298 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 6: when they're done in basketball, their basketball, it's you satisfied. 299 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 6: And then you got some who still want to play. 300 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 6: Some guys they need one hundred million to play. Some 301 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 6: guys will play if you throw the ball out there 302 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 6: with enough people. So you just got to figure out 303 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 6: where the hunger's at. You know, we always say it 304 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 6: ain't about your name, it's about your game, and you 305 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 6: got to bring your game because your name is not 306 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 6: gonna last in the Big Three. 307 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: No question. But you do have some huge names, right Dwight, Howard, Kemba, 308 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: more Ready, Land Stephenson, Wes Johnson, montrezl Harrald. Who are 309 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: you most excited to see in the league this year? 310 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 6: Dwight for sure, Lance, you know Montrez see how they do. 311 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 6: But I'm also Michael Beasley's the MVP, Joe Johnson three 312 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 6: time MVP. So you know we got some performinable players 313 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 6: that's been proven in this style of basketball, and so 314 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 6: I can't wait to see him clash on June fourteenth. 315 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: It is crazy, Like I'm forty nine and Joe Johnson 316 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: used to come to our games at Oklahoma State when 317 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: he was being recruited and he's still getting buckets, still 318 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: getting buckets in his in his forties. In terms of 319 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: legendary bucket getters, he got my mood up. Du rouv. 320 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: You got Joe Johnson, h and you talk about Michael 321 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: Beasley in your mind, who's the best bucket getter in 322 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: Big Three history? 323 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 6: Wow? I would have to say Joe Johnson. Yeah, this 324 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 6: is tough. You know, they don't call him my sho 325 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 6: Joe for nothing. And you know what's great about our 326 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 6: style of play. You know, guys who've honed their skills 327 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 6: and and who have every trick in the book to 328 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 6: get a bucket, you know, have a place to play. 329 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 6: You know, these guys can't play eighty two games no more. 330 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 6: They can't go back to back. They can't do three 331 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: games in fort ninth. Some of them can, but you 332 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 6: know most of them, you know, first to fifty win. 333 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 6: You know it's right there on the NBA court. 334 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: You know, you guys have been doing this for a minute. 335 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: And obviously you've talked about how many have tried to 336 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: take down the league, right, and you went public and 337 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: talked about how the NBA didn't want you guys to succeed. 338 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: What is it like to continue to build on this 339 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: league year after year when there's so much competition and 340 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: somebody who have tried to take shots at this league? 341 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 6: And I'm used to being in this position, even with music, 342 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 6: even with movies, with you know, Q Vision or movie Company. 343 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 6: You know, we've always had to prove ourselves in a 344 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 6: new space. So I feel right at home right here. 345 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: I wish it wasn't like that. It don't have to 346 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 6: be like that. I think we're very complimentary to the NBA, 347 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 6: but uh, you know, we don't need them to succeed, 348 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 6: as you can see. And uh, now you know the 349 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 6: sports world is starting to realize it. 350 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: No, they are, they are starting to realize it. Right, 351 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: So why do you think in your mind, why do 352 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: you think that people don't want to see you succeed 353 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: with this lake? 354 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 6: I don't know, you got to ask them because it 355 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: don't make crazy man sense. Uh, you know if you 356 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 6: ask the crazy man, he'd tell you do this, so uh, 357 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 6: he scratching his head. So it don't make sense to 358 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 6: anybody but probably Adam Silver and Mark Tatum. And so 359 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 6: once you get a chance to interview there, please action 360 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 6: call me and let you know. 361 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,239 Speaker 1: I will, and we'll send you the table. We'll kind 362 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: of see what's up. Ice Cube joining us here as 363 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: we get Ready. June fourteenth, All State Arena and on 364 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: CBS Advice, it's another season of the Big Three. Dwight 365 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: Howard playing Campbell playing born Ready, Land Stevenson playing of course, 366 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: Michael Beasley, Joe Johnson and others still playing. How about 367 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: you personally, Like every mountain you climb, you get to 368 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: the top this league, you've built into a consistent success story. 369 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: What's the next mountain? Because again you've found them and 370 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: climbed up them and conquered them. What's next. 371 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 6: Build a house on top of them? You know, it's like, 372 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 6: we want to be here for a long time, so 373 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 6: we got to be great for a long time. So 374 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 6: I don't see it as you know, we've achieved our goal, 375 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 6: We've only just begun. As they say, Uh, we want 376 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 6: to be here as long as the NBA or longer. 377 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 6: So you know, I take a lot of work to 378 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 6: get there, and I'm having a ball. You know, I've 379 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 6: had a great career in music movies, and you know 380 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: this is a new frontier when it comes to sports. 381 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no question about it. What what for? 382 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: People haven't been to one of these events, right, And 383 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: I've been right and it's a great show. But Somebody's like, man, 384 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: I've always heard about it, but I haven't gone. What's 385 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the experience like for a fan to come to say 386 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: they're going to come to All State in Chicago, that 387 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: that arena is really close to O'Hare they're gonna come in. 388 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: What's that experience like? 389 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 6: This is the most fun you ever had at a 390 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 6: basketball game. What's great is you get four games for 391 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: the price of warning, so you get a chance to 392 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 6: see the entire league, and I think that's unique and 393 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 6: it's fun, and we have entertainment gonna start to finish, 394 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 6: and we got some great squads this year, so it's 395 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 6: like a basketball festival to come out there and hang out. 396 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 6: And it's an affordable ticket so that make it family 397 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: friendly and nobody's gonna tackle you if you go ask 398 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: for an autograph from Doctor j. The You don't have 399 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 6: to worry about that either. You know, it's not all 400 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 6: tight and buttoned up like you will see that a 401 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 6: bulls band, I guess. 402 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, some summer hoops with stars that you know, 403 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: and a game that's easy to digest, and you know, 404 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: it's kind of old school three on three in the 405 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: backyard in terms of the physicality like it is, it 406 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: is super physical. What's it like to get Dwight? Because 407 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: and and Dwight's game is going to be interesting, right 408 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: because it was so much based upon you know, defense, 409 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: shop locking, rebounding obviously still a value in the Big Three? 410 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: What was it like to land? To land Dwight? 411 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 6: Great? What's good about this year? In Dwight? He's gonna 412 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 6: have to show more skills than just defense, rebounding and duncan. 413 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 6: So in the Big Three, you gotta have a whole bag. 414 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 6: You got to be able to pass, dribble shoe and 415 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 6: defend or you will get exposed. The help is not coming, 416 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 6: so you need to lock it up. And so he's 417 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 6: gonna have to show more than he even showed in 418 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 6: the NBA. So that's gonna be great to see because 419 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 6: I think he got it. 420 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Q, man, this is a great league. It's gonna 421 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. I'm gonna head on down 422 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: to Chicago watch you guys. It's Big three dot Com 423 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: slash Tickets. Big three dot Com slash Tickets. Of course 424 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: you can see you on CBS or on Vice TV, 425 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: but as Q pointed out, it's way better in person. 426 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: You get four games, super family friendly, super affordable. I 427 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: encourage you to go out and see it this season, 428 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: the Big Three Icecup. Thanks so much for joining us, man, 429 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 430 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 6: Appreciate you too. 431 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: Me easy anytime in the things in your life. Jay 432 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Stu that thirteen year old me would be like elbowing 433 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: me that while I'm doing it. Interviewing ice Cube definitely 434 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: one of them. And ice Cube knowing my first name right, 435 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: like having a working knowledge of Cube a little bit. 436 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: I've seen him at other events. It's really nice to me. 437 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, like NWAF the Police. I don't think there's 438 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: any question of all the cassette tapes that I had, 439 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: was the most plague cassette tape I had my in 440 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: my childhood or adolescent hood, if you will. 441 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. That makes sense for whatever reason, 442 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: that stuff was off my radar. I was. I was 443 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,479 Speaker 3: all about K rock music, grunge and Iron Maiden, and 444 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: then later and Wife I began to appreciate it. But 445 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: my first ice cube experience was Boys in the Hood, 446 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: which was one of my favorite movies back then. Sure, 447 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: and he was so good at it. 448 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and then Friday was like, Friday was our movie. 449 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: From the two movies from my college days that resonate 450 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: the most, or that we play the most, were Friday 451 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: and Something about Mary. Yeah. 452 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam and I went over to talk about this. 453 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: There's a couple of movies, Friday being one of them. 454 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 3: There was one that we just talked about. I think 455 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: it was the what's that Coen Brothers movie? The Coen 456 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 3: Brothers movie with Jeff Danelum and Dummer No, not Jeff 457 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: Daniels anyway, Big Lebowski. Yeah, the Big Lebowski. I put 458 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 3: him in the same category. And you tell me if 459 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 3: if I'm wrong. It seems like those are two movies 460 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: that you enjoy most when you're stoned, and I've never 461 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: been stoned, so I think I missed the humor and 462 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: Friday and I kind of missed the subtleties of The 463 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: Big Lebowski. 464 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: Big Lebowski is very subtle. I don't obviously what's it called? 465 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: Is not Friday is not a subtle It is not 466 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: a subtle movie. It's not like in your face. But 467 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: the comedic lines are pretty obvious. And yeah, those are 468 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: two very different comedies from very similar eras. And so 469 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: you didn't watch Big Lebowski at the time when it 470 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: came out, like that wasn't on your radar then either, 471 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: And no, no. 472 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: I watched both the movies when they came out, but 473 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: I have not been like these this long time appreciator 474 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: of those two movies. Both of those are iconic movies 475 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: for people my age. Yeah, because I never smoked marijuana, 476 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: and I always put them in the same category that 477 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: all my pot smoking friends absolutely love those two movies. 478 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: And there must be something they got out of the 479 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 3: experience that I didn't. 480 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: I wasn't a pot smoker in college. I just I 481 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: don't know. It's just funny. 482 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 7: The thing about The Big Lebowski is the dude, the 483 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 7: Dude of vines, but he smokes pot through the whole movie. 484 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 7: He's a pot but like the other characters aren't so 485 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 7: I wouldn't call like a stoner movie, but it's definitely 486 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 7: like the dude is always chilling with his little little 487 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 7: tiny doobie. So you know, I saw Big Lebowski in 488 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 7: the theaters with my mom and she was like, she 489 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 7: really wanted to see it. She's like, I don't. I 490 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 7: must sow. That movie came out in maybe ninety seven. 491 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 7: I was like eleven or twelve, but not probably enough 492 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 7: the best movie to show like a young boy. But 493 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 7: I remember it because it was it was funny. I 494 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 7: didn't get all the jokes, but I appreciate her taking 495 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 7: me now that I look back on it. 496 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: No, I don't think anybody got all the jokes. 497 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 7: The plot of the film is great. It's such a 498 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 7: well written film because it connects all these jokes and 499 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 7: all these like things that happened throughout the movie. They 500 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 7: kind of connect back. They circle back to him later 501 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 7: in the film, so it's pieced together very cleverly makes sense. 502 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: This is the Doug outleb Show here live on Fox 503 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio again. Story of the Day. Tom Thibodeau out 504 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: as Nick's head coach. Out as Nick's head coach. I 505 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: see even our Fox Sports Radio Collins biking in like 506 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: Amsterdam or something. Is there gonna be Is he going 507 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: to do an emergency post at some point? I don't know. 508 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: You listen to us now, but you know you could 509 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: also see us. Hello. Check out the Fox Sports Radio 510 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. 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We thought it was gonna be 520 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: a whole home show, and then the NIXT fired Tom Thibodeau, 521 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden we have something being 522 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: to talk about. Let's talk about just for a moment 523 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: before we get to something about Ronnie James. I saw 524 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: from Athlon Sports going back to yesterday, Tibbs is out 525 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: first Knicks coach to take them to a conference finals 526 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: in twenty five years. So the Knicks have climbed back 527 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: into respectability and now in their pursuit of a championship, 528 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: they fired their coach. Bold move Cotton now doesn't mean though, 529 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: that it's that you can't get better. You know that 530 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: one guy gets you to a place place where you're 531 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: respectable and you're solid, and you're in your Eastern Conference finals. 532 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you need a guy to get you over the top. 533 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: Knows how to play the bench better, knows how to 534 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: stop transition game better. I don't know, maybe knows how 535 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: to It needs to evolve a little bit, not sure. 536 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Mike Malone, Jay Wright wouldn't stun me if the name 537 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: Jeff Van Gundy because of how well respected he was 538 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: as Nick's last head coach, Tod take him to a 539 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: finals and the job he did this year's assistant coach 540 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: just he's brilliant. He's a big mond, he's a great mind, 541 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: and he's a big name and he's worked in New 542 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: York before. I have to look at who Leon Rose 543 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: represented because that feels like it's part of it. But 544 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: this definitely feels like a Carl Towns was Karl Anthony 545 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Towns was catching a lot of heat. Karl Anthony Towns 546 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: was represented by by Leon Rose when he was an 547 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: agent before he became the president. Now he's the president, 548 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this saves Carl Anthony Towns 549 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: to the next but it definitely it definitely takes some 550 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: of the pressure of the loss off of Karl Anthony Towns. 551 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: There's a statement out now from Leon Rose. Our organization 552 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: is singularly focused on winning championships for our fans. This 553 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: pursuit led us to the difficult decision to inform Tom 554 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: Thibodeau that we've decided to move in another direction. We 555 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: can't thank Tom enough for pouring his heart and soul 556 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: into each and every day being the New York Knicks 557 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: head coach. He led us not only with class and 558 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: professionalism for fast five seasons, but also to tremendous success 559 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: on the court, with four playoff berths and four playoff 560 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: series victories. Unfortunately, we made a decision we feels in 561 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: the best interest of our organization to move forward. Tom 562 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: will always be part of a Nicks family and we 563 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: truly wish him nothing but the best in the future. Okay, look, 564 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I it's one thing. If it's like 565 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: one year or two years, and remember TIBs it took 566 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: him until his mid fifties to even get a head 567 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: coaching job, as being a lifer kind of assistant coach 568 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: coach some of the minor leagues as well. It doesn't 569 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: have to be fair, it doesn't have to be right, 570 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: to be well within the bounds of what the Knicks 571 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: are gonna do. You have a contract, lons fulfill that contract, 572 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: pay you every penny. If he has any money left over, 573 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: he'll get all of it, and it's their decision to 574 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: move on again, doesn't that have to be the right 575 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: move and also mean it's the wrong move. We don't 576 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: know about the inner workings of the team. We don't 577 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: know why the defense had so many breakdowns. Is it 578 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: Carl Anthon Towns or was that Carlnthon Towns didn't jibe 579 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: with the system. I don't know. I don't know. I 580 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: do know that's a big challenge though, to follow in 581 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: those shoes. And I do know that there's been plenty 582 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: of teams that have gotten the Eastern Conference Finals, especially 583 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: after beating beating up teams like you know, the Celtics 584 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: collapsed in Game one, in Game two and then the 585 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum injury obviously made it so they weren't going 586 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: to be competitive, but they did just beat the Celtics. 587 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: That did really happen. So it's surprising, nonetheless that he's 588 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: he's let go from his position. Let me read you 589 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: this other story, this from Athlon Supports yesterday. Twenty year 590 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: old Brownie James is said to be a part of 591 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: the NBA roster for much longer in the upcoming months 592 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: due to his impressive developmental League showing. I don't think 593 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: there's any doubt that that's their plan, and executive told 594 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: Athlon Sports. I know the guy gets a lot of 595 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: grief because of who his dad is, but we've seen 596 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: a lot of tape on Brian. The fact is he 597 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: was a lot better in April than he was in 598 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: October and definitely in July. He's twenty years old, he 599 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: had a whole year where his development was thrown out 600 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: a whack. But he can defend the perimeter. He showed 601 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: us he can shoot the three, and if he can 602 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: show us it wasn't a fluke, he's going to be 603 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: getting ten to fifteen minutes to night because the team 604 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: is going to feel like they can trust him. Okay, 605 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: I just again, I don't know who the executive is. 606 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: It is one, and I think there was a There's 607 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: one question that was not asked that would be fair 608 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: to ask, and that question would be does he deserve 609 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: to be would he be on your roster right? Would 610 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: he be in the rotation? And yeah, the numbers did 611 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: dramatically improve late in the year in the G League. 612 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: He shot forty four from the field, he shot thirty 613 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: eight from three. He did have end up having a 614 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: positive plus minus. I just ten to fifteen minutes a 615 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: game makes some rotation player. Does that mean they're replacing 616 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: Gabe Vincent with him? I don't know. And again, the 617 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: bigger part of this story is not Bronnie James. It's 618 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: part of it, right, because if you're going to play 619 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Bronnie that many minutes and you're going to keep Lebron, 620 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 1: you're going to keep Austin Reeves, You're going to keep 621 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: uh Luca. I don't know how you're winning a championship 622 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: with three guys that don't defend. But the question becomes, 623 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: how can bron how can Lebron walk away after essentially 624 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: mandating that they draft Bronnie and not draft Rice. You 625 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: go from best that ever to worse dad. Ever, right 626 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: if he retires at the end of next year. Hey, 627 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna retire at the end of next year. Like, wait, well, 628 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: you could have had Bryce and made them draft and 629 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: develop him there. Nah, Bryce is fine, He'll fend for now. 630 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: If you've ever raised kids, you do know that that 631 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: second born, third born just they raised themselves. I know, 632 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: I was a third born. I literally got myself vaccinated. 633 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: I vaccinated myself. I taught myself everything I know because 634 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm a third kid. But can you imagine if Ronnie 635 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: takes that next step and Bryce goes to Arizona and look, 636 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: full disclosure, Bryce is way behind Ronnie as a player 637 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: more athletic. Sure has some plays which are interesting, but 638 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: he's he's not an NBA player. But Ronnie was an 639 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: NBA player either, and they drafted him and told us 640 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: that he told us that he'd earned it. So I 641 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: just think it's very unlikely that lebron James will help 642 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: Bronnie's development. And if Bronnie develops into a ten to 643 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: fifteen minute a game guy, I think that's way too 644 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: much to ask. But if he does develop into a 645 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minute a game guy, then what Lebron's 646 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: going to say is, hey, look, Bronni didn't have much 647 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: of a freshman year. He ends up being a ten 648 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: to fifteen minute a game guy. Let's draft Bryce. Same 649 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: thing can easily happen. We know how to develop players. 650 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: What it tells me is Lebron's going to play two 651 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: more years. That's what tells me. And as for Bronnie James, 652 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: will he develop into a rotation guy? I don't think so. 653 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: But the numbers, especially late in the year, dramatically improved. 654 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: But I think also if you look at the numbers 655 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: of a lot of people late in the year in 656 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: the G League, they dramatically improve because the level of 657 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: competition was as good as the end of the year. 658 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: Because at the end of the year, by the time 659 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: he was making, guys that were good in the G 660 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 1: League had already been called up. So, but gonna be 661 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: interesting because as much as we think aighties are grown ups, 662 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: they're grown men. They get their contracts like magic. If 663 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: your Gaye Benson, who injured two years ago, plays this 664 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: year and you're like, yeah, I'm gonna give up my 665 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: minutes to Brownie James. When I played, I was a 666 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: starting point guard, for an NBA Finals team a couple 667 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: years ago, and the big follow up that's missing is 668 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 1: would you trust him? Would he be in your rotation? 669 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: And that that wasn't answered. 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