1 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: It is Huddle Up. 2 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: J P. Shadrick with you from the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan, 3 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 2: as the Jaguars and the Detroit Lions get joint practices 4 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: underway earlier today, plenty to get two on the show. 5 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: Coming up today, we'll review the first joint. 6 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: Practice the Jaguars and Lions and full pads today Jaguars 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,639 Speaker 2: D line, Lions O line going at it and one 8 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: on one drills and vice versa. We'll get some breakdown 9 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: of some of those performances today. Another practice on the 10 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: books tomorrow and then Saturday. It's preseason week two at 11 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Ford Field and downtown Detroit. Is the Lions entertain the 12 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars Suddle Up with the Bucky Brooks is brought 13 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: to you by Field's Auto Group Jacksonville Step up to 14 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: Luxury Fieldsauto dot Com. No Bucky today. John Osier is 15 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: here though Jeff Loghman is with us here in Troy, Michigan. 16 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for hopping on, Logan, thanks for having me, and uh, 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: by the way, I was just telling you guys, I 18 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 2: feel honored to be able to sit in for Bucky Brooks. 19 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 2: And Bucky Brooks, I mean, is he getting a little 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: bit of payback from Johnny Manziel. I saw him in 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: the series about Johnny Manziel the Netflix thing. Yeah he was. 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: He was at a table at the combine interviewing Johnny 23 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: Manziel and he looks so young, both of them. 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: Right, that was good plenty to get to today. 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: Of course after the first to joint practice, let's hear 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: from Doug Peterson before practice on what to expect from 27 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: these two practices at Allen Park. 28 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: It's not about you know, who's the tougher man. It's 29 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: about getting good work in and there It's gonna be physical. 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just the way padded practices are. You know, 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: our guys understand, you know that that we're here to 32 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: work and to get get some quality time. 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: You know. Done. 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: That was before practice. Today they go out with full 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: pads today. A few chippy moments, but really nothing over 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: the edge today, which is really good work. 37 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: John by this, uh, these. 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: Two teams, both up and coming teams talking to Evan 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: Ingram after practice that they're kind of in the same ballpark, 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: same idea, right. NFC for the Lions finished strong last year. 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: The Jaguars did what they did. They kind of ascending franchises, 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: so there's a lot of respect out there on the 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: field today. 44 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: Well, I want to get Jeff's thoughts on this in 45 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: a minute, but it seemed I missed the first maybe 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: seven or eight minutes because of those over shooting Jaguars am. 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 4: But once I got out there, all the feedback everything 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 4: you saw was at the Jaguars defense, especially the pass rush, 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: had a pretty good day against a pretty good offensive line. 50 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: Looked like the Lions offense later on had some success, 51 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: But the NFL offenses are going to have success much 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 4: talent as Lions have. Jeff, I'm wondering if you saw 53 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: the same thing. Pretty good day for the front seven 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: for the Jaguars. 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: I thought it was arguably the best day for the 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: pass rush in one on one, which camp Yeah, I mean, 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. Look, I was really looking forward 58 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 2: to watching the one on one drow because the Detroit 59 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: Lions have two of the best tackles that there is 60 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: in a National Football League, maybe the best tandem with 61 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: Pine Sue at right tackle Taylor Decker at left tackle, 62 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: I mean, a really good tandem. And I thought that 63 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: Trayvon Walker Josh Allen had very productive days arguably their 64 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: best days, and that's what you want to see against 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: premier competition. Now, the chippiness that you alluded to, I 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: think it was a little bit more than just a 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: little bit. The Detroit Lions looked like they're trying to 68 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: build an identity on defense, and those guys were the 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: ones that were kind of crossing the line. It was 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: on them, yeah, okay, and they were crossing the line, 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: and the Jaguars offensive players are like, wait a minute. 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: And in fact, at one point, I mean there were 73 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: both teams leaving the sidelines on opposite sides of the 74 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: field to meet in the middle, and uh, there was 75 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: more than a little bit of push them shoving going on, right, 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 2: But the point is that I haven't made this point. 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: After practice, you can go up to the edge of 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: that and protect your guys. That's no punch is thrown, 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: there's none of that stuff going on. There's those Well, 80 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: if you're gonna do it, just make sure nobody sees it. 81 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Set a tone, right, Well, yeah, I mean set a 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: tone and then just make sure that you don't get 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: over the line, or at least get perceived across that line. 84 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: The other part of the one on ones today. Obviously, 85 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: this Lion's defensive line is stocked with big names, young talent, 86 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: the whole deal against the Jaguars tackles on the outside 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: walker little Anton Harrison, who actually left practice early today, 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: kind of favoring that shoulder again, What did you make 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: of those groups today? Well, when when they went to 90 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: one on one, Okay, there they were literally if I 91 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: was standing in the in the middle, okay, and Selly's here, 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: Trent Balky's here, I mean worse at the perfect position 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 2: because we can literally go watch the defense pass rush 94 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: one on one, turn your head to the right, and 95 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: then watch the offense against the Detroit Lions and pass 96 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: rush one on one. And it was a great venue point. 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: And I can tell you Aiden Hutchinson got stoned a 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: few times against Anton Harrison, and Anton Harrison I thought 99 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: was really good. Not only was his feet good, but 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: he really showed an ability to anchor, which is what 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 2: I had a little bit of concern about, not a lot, 102 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: and so I thought he had a really good day. 103 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: So I think there was some really good things on 104 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: both sides of it. And then you brought up the 105 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: shoulder after that one on one drill in a team period. 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: Anton Harrison had to come out and was in a 107 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: noticeable amount of pain. And he's wearing a harness. And 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: for people that don't know what a harness, there's a 109 00:05:54,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: shoulder harness. There's a kind of a cloth and this 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: material that goes around the chest and then it connects 111 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: to a cuff that goes around the arm. And what 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: it's designed to do and there's a connection between the 113 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: two and it's designed to keep the arm from getting 114 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: away from the chest body too far, to help protect 115 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: the shoulder a little bit. And it's something that he's wearing. 116 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: And if he had a problem with the shoulder earlier 117 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: in camp and then it grabbed him like that today 118 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: and camp might I'm not an expert here, but I've 119 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: warned those shoulder harnesses before and it was usually an 120 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: indication there's something wrong and it probably needs fixing, but 121 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's you can still play with it right. 122 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: Hopefully he'll get you know, shut him down for the 123 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 4: rest of preseason maybe, I mean I'm just speculating, maybe 124 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 4: give him some rest for the regular season at this point. 125 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: Well, I just have for a rookie out there, and 126 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: he's a young player. You want to give him the 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: rest and look and hopefully it's not something that needs 128 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: fixed that it just needs rest. And they're being overly 129 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: cautious with the whole harness thing. But I can tell 130 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: you that send me a first round pick. He's a 131 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: right tackle. You're gonna be losing your starting left tackle 132 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: Cam Robinson for what four games to start the season 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: out And Josh Wells went out with an injury today 134 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: where it did some kind of an injury. We don't 135 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: know exactly what it is. I mean, so now of 136 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: a sudden, what a position that you felt like was 137 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: very deep once you started training camp and in a 138 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: matter of one day you go, oh, well, wait a minute, 139 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: here a little concerning. 140 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: Let's come back in a moment. 141 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: Plenty more ahead recapping the first joint practice for the 142 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Lions in Detroit today. 143 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: And if you're a Jags fan who's always in the move, 144 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: We've got the perfect plan for you. 145 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: With our bundle with the Bank, you can purchase tickets 146 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: to three or more games starting at just fifty eight 147 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: bucks per game. 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And obviously that was a that was 156 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: a moment that wasn't our best and we seemed to 157 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: kind of figure it out from there and flip it, 158 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: flip it around after that. 159 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: The fact that is of course had Joe Doug Peterson 160 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: and rehashing the Week thirteen game last year. 161 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: The Lions hung a. 162 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: Forty burger on the Jags forty to fourteen, but it 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: was the beginning of the great run for the Jags. 164 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 165 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: It's huddle Op, JP, Shadwick, John Ozier, Jeff Logerman and 166 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: for Bucky And we're here in the Detroit area at 167 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: the team Hotel after joint practices today and tomorrow at 168 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 2: Allen Park, the home of the Lions. Today in pads, 169 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: I don't believe pads. Tomorrow, we're breaking down some of 170 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 2: the action earlier today and John, you and I talked 171 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 2: about it right after practice blogs. I think I might 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: have been standing near you. I don't know if you 173 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: saw it or not. Was to me the play of 174 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: the day was Devin Lloyd stepping back in coverage. I 175 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: think it was the first snap of like the regular 176 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: middle of the field, eleven on eleven drifting back in 177 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: coverage one handed, right hand interception makes a great playoff 178 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: Jared Goff. That's a good sign. I mean, what a 179 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: fantastic play for Lloyd. And what kind of camp have 180 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: you seen out of Devon? It looks to me. 181 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: Like he's seeing it better, like he's more aware, and 182 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 4: he certainly thinks so, and talking to Josh after practice, 183 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: he certainly thinks so. When he's around the ball, he 184 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: makes plays. He's athletic. I guess I would again defer 185 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 4: to Loggs. Do you feel like you're seeing a little 186 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: more awareness out of him this year? To me, it 187 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: seems like you are. 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: The One thing I think it's very noticeable is that 189 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: he looks to Foyer less when the huddle breaks and 190 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: then when the communication is happening when they're on the field, 191 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: which last year, Tom, I mean, I hate to say this, 192 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 2: Devin was like looking at foyer the whole time, and 193 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: then looking at the offense kind of get in the 194 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: gauge what am I supposed to do? And then where 195 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: am I supposed to be? And when you play linebacker, 196 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: you can't do that. You're the one that has to 197 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: be directing the traffic. And then your mind has to 198 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: be clean, clear and free so that you can be 199 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: an athlete and you can anticipate, so your focus is 200 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 2: on what they're doing as an offense instead of what 201 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: I have to do. And so that's a good sign 202 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: so far. And he's like a magnet, isn't he with 203 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: the ball? 204 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: And the ball is like all it gets in his hands. 205 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 4: And it's funny, Jeff, I hadn't talked to you about this. 206 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: I didn't tell Devin Lloyd, but you had just said 207 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 4: because you just said it now without being prompted. This 208 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: morning when I was talking to him, he said the 209 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: exact thing thing you did. He said last year when 210 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 4: I was breaking the huddle. I'm prayer phrasing this, but 211 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: when they broke the huddle, he had this instinct of 212 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: wanting to see the call sheet again, you know, and 213 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 4: just sort of wishing he could see it one more time. 214 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: To make sure, and he said, now and he makes 215 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: the call, meaning Foy. When he makes a call on 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: the huddle, he's. 217 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: Out and he's ready to go. 218 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: So it's interesting that you use that terminology and that anecdote. 219 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: And he said, without you prompting. Hey, that's what I'm feeling. 220 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: So I watched the film, Johnny. 221 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: Well, I was giving more credit to him than you. 222 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 4: But you go ahead and take credit. 223 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: You're fine, now, I know. And here's the thing. You 224 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: love the guy, Yeah, you love the guy because he 225 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: is such a good guy. He works his tail off. 226 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: And the gold standard for the linebackers in Jaguars history 227 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: is who Paulpa's less me? Sure, right? I mean, I 228 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: mean there were some great linebackers, don't get me wrong. 229 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Hardy was a great player, But I'm talking about 230 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: the gold standard as far as the guy that had 231 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: the work ethic, the knowledge, the availability was there all 232 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: the time. And I think we have another one in 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: the making here because he's just so committed. I mean, 234 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: here's a guy that think about this now, the mandatory 235 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: mini camp, all the players that attended all the off 236 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: season workouts, the OTAs, and then where they're working now. 237 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: We're given a free pass that they didn't have to 238 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: attend the mandatory mini camp. Josh Allen didn't have that 239 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: luxury because he wasn't around, okay, with a contract, you know, 240 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: negotiation that was going on. And uh so Devin Lloyd 241 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: could have went home and eight cheetos on the couch 242 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: in his underwear, watching cartoons like JP and he didn't. 243 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: He chose to participate in the mandatory mini camp because 244 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: he felt that it was valuable for him to get 245 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: the reps. I mean, I was dedicatedd but I probably 246 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: would have been eating cheetahs. But I know, I give 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 2: him credit because I mean, he's that guy of a 248 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: likable guy and you root for him and he is 249 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: like a magnet when he's around the ball, and he's 250 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: so dagum athletic. The one thing he's not he's not 251 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: a blazing fast guy. And so if you're not fast, 252 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: because like go back to puzzlesni and who played alongside him, 253 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 2: Telvin Smith. Tellvin Smith was blazing fast. They got there 254 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: at the same time. Pobs got there because he anticipated 255 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: Telvin got there because he was he was there fast. Well, 256 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: if Devin Lloyd, who doesn't have blazing speed. If he 257 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: can get the mental aspect of it down. He's such 258 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: a freak athletically, he can do some great things if 259 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: he gets the understanding of the defense and it's good. 260 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 2: Like I said, you can see that they're signs that 261 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: it's coming to him, and that's encouraging. 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 4: And the way he explained to me last year at 263 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: that position, that split second of waiting and watching it 264 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 4: doesn't take very long. It didn't have to be an 265 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 4: entire second. It can just be a half a step 266 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 4: makes all the difference in the world. So if he 267 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: makes up that half step, he's there more. 268 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Often this year. Give you an example. If I'm a 269 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: half a step slow at linebacker, okay, and here's a 270 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty pound guard, let's be reasonable, three 271 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pound guard, okay, and he has 272 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: six inches of angle on me. Okay. Six inches of 273 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: angle makes all the difference in the world for an 274 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: approach with a defender to take on a block to 275 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: be in a favorable position. So if Devin Lloyd has 276 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: the instincts and the understanding and the anticipation to eliminate 277 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: that six inch lag or you know, the to get 278 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: on top of six inches the other way. Then all 279 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: of a sudden he's in a position of power. And 280 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: so that's the type of thing that can make all 281 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: the difference in the world. And also six inches between 282 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: him and the ball, six inches between him and getting 283 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: a pass breakup, six inch between making a tie. 284 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 4: Big and thing about him, as you said, when he's 285 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: around the ball, he recovers or intercepts it. So he's 286 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 4: a turnover maker linebacker, which you can probably count on 287 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: one hand in the league the number of linebackers you think, okay, 288 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 4: they're going to create a lot of turnovers even not 289 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: being aware. Last year he had three interceptions. Boy, what 290 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: is he when he's aware? 291 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, this is huddle up. 292 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: J P. 293 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Lagow and John Os're glad you're with us 294 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: from the team hotel in Troy, Michigan. Hey, so we 295 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: mentioned a couple of the offensive injuries today on the 296 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: defensive line. It was one of the defensive lines today 297 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: as well. Fully fought a Cassi left practice today and 298 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: obviously that's because I guess looked like a lower right leg. 299 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: Not sure exactly, no official. 300 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: He told somebody afterwards that he was okay. You know, 301 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: you hope that's not just the player being brave and 302 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 4: saying he's okay. But I really hope he's okay, because 303 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 4: it felt to me like he was twice the players right, 304 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: but that he was being the player that they thought 305 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: they were getting last year when they signed him. He 306 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: was a lot closer to it. And if you package 307 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: him and Hamilton and Roy Robertson Harris, you've got a 308 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: good defensive three up there. I think he's pretty important 309 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: at this thing, Jeff. 310 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 2: He's one of three of the big strong dudes, right, 311 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Devon Hamilton, Roy Robertson Harris and fully fought a Cossi 312 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: are the three big strong dudes. And availability is key, okay, 313 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: And last year he missed a lot of games with 314 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: injury and wasn't able to find a groove with his defense, 315 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: and I was hoping that he be able to stay healthy. 316 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a looked like a 317 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: foot ankle, whatever it may be. Hopefully he's okay because 318 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: he's been having a pretty good camp so far. 319 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with him moving ahead. 320 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: Hey, Jags fans want customized Jaguars furniture for your home? 321 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: We'll check out zipchare dot com and browse all customizable 322 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: options ZIP chair furniture for fans. Well back in the moment, 323 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: Jaguars wide receivers had a pretty good day. We'll break 324 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: it down after this unhuddle up. Welcome back. 325 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: It's huddle up. 326 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, jap Shadrick, John Ozier, Jeff Logman, our 327 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: entire crew from the Team Hotel in Troy, Michigan. The 328 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Detroit Lions joint practice today and again tomorrow, 329 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: and then the Jags are on their own Friday, and 330 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: then it's preseason week two Saturday, one o'clock kickoff time 331 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: at Ford Field in downtown Detroit. The Lions and the 332 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: Jaguars coming up. So we're breaking down today's joint practice 333 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 2: pads today. Some fans out there and the Detroit fans 334 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: got to get a look at Calvin Ridley today for 335 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: the first time. And there were a couple of moments 336 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: John in practice where he stood out and what I 337 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: saw early in seven on seven near the goal line, 338 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: he breaks out to the left front left pylon, makes 339 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: a catch over a defender tells him all about it, 340 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: and it turns out they grew up in Florida together, 341 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: so there's a little bit of that going on with 342 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley today. But Christian Kirk had one of a 343 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: similar play on the front right pylon today for a 344 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: touchdown down in that kind of tight goal line area 345 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: in seven on seven, So there was another deep baul 346 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: to Ridley today too. So the receiving group here, we've 347 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: heard about them all camp, but they're continuing to make play. Yeah. 348 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 4: I thought Trevor also had a nice play. I think 349 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 4: it was to Ingram in the in the final eleven 350 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: on eleven where he got saw the defender come off 351 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: about a twenty yard pass down the field, which I 352 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 4: thought was good considering that felt like the most live 353 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: and practiced me. I watched the offense the whole day 354 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 4: and I had kind of a funny, uh I guess 355 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 4: feeling about it. I wasn't overly dazzled. Calvin really had 356 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: a beautiful deep route and it looked like the Lion's 357 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 4: cornerback lost him and he was about fifteen yards open. 358 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 4: So my first impression I wasn't dazzled. Then I thought, well, 359 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 4: it wasdn' dazzled, but they still look good. So I 360 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: think that's just sort of what you expect now. And 361 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 4: it seems like every practice you go out there and 362 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 4: Ridley does something that he makes a look routine. It's 363 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: not routine, I guess, is what I'm getting at jests. 364 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 4: I think that's a good thing when you're not dazzled 365 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 4: by something you see offensively and it's just what. 366 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: They do, right. I thought it was a good day. Yeah, 367 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: not a great day, but a good day, which you know, look, 368 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: you start stacking good days together and you're gonna win 369 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: a lot of football games. And you know, think about 370 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: adding Calvin Ridley to the current mix that you have. 371 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean, let's not forget that Zay Jones and Christian Kirk, 372 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: I think the only due in the league that had 373 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: ady ketches life year together. I mean that's tremendous. And 374 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: now you're adding a talent that looks like he's a 375 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: step above even those two guys. So I think it's 376 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: going to be exciting. And they're getting great work in 377 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 2: and they're competitive as all get out, and that's what 378 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: you really like to see. And Trevor I think, is 379 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: still getting better and he's not perfect. He still makes 380 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: some mistake. There was one play where he take the 381 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: handoff and went to hit a slant right to his right, 382 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 2: and he missed it by like, you know, I don't 383 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: think three yards or something like that. And I loved 384 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: about what happened next after the drill, Trevor and Christian 385 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: Kirk worked on the exact same play. I mean, when 386 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: you have a quarterback that sits there and goes dak gumman, 387 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: I need to work on that. So the play or 388 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: the group period ends and he goes over and has 389 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: Christian run the exact same route, takes the handoff, makes 390 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 2: the throw, and this time he hits it. I mean, 391 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 2: that's what you want to see out of a quarterback. 392 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 2: And that wasn't like the coaches said, hey, Trevor, come 393 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: on over here, we need to work on that. 394 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: He did that, and the receivers are pros too. They're 395 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 4: if not ahead of him, they know what's coming. They're 396 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: there on huddle up. Jeff, I like to ask questions 397 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: of the scout because Bucky's calling scouted with different hats. 398 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: I know you're kind of. 399 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 4: A scout as well. You could do that, explain to me, 400 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: Zay Jones. I think people know Christian Kirk and they 401 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: know Ridley very well and he got a lot of 402 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 4: pub What is it about Zay Jones that makes him 403 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: good and why is he so important to what they do? Right? 404 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: Let me I answer the second part of that. First. 405 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: He's the leader of that group, and you're talking a 406 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: great group that has strong performers. He's the leader, and 407 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: all you got to do is watch the dynamic when 408 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: and when they're in practice. You can tell that he's 409 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: the guy that gets out front, He's the guy that talks, 410 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 2: and you can tell they all get along. And it's 411 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: because of save Ay's got a tremendous magnetic personality that 412 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: I think really draws people in. I mean, you've talked 413 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: to him before and he's a joy to talk to, 414 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: and he's not a bore right and Christian is a 415 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: little bit more quiet and Ridley being the new guy 416 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: on the block, you can tell that Zay's kind of 417 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: the leader of that group. And from talking to the 418 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: Wide Receiver coach Chad Hall, he said as much to 419 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 2: me the week before last, said that Zay's really the 420 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 2: leader of that group, but he's also an excellent performer. 421 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: He's competitive as all get out and he works hard 422 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: at his craft, and he's got a skill set that's 423 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 2: not to be just kind of dismissed. I mean, and 424 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: that's the impressive part about Zay. 425 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 4: Better deep runner, I mean, a better deep receiver that 426 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 4: I think he gets credit for. 427 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: Trevor said, the best double move route runner on the 428 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: roster last year was Zay Jones. 429 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: I can see that. 430 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, in and out and then all of a 431 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: sudden breaking open down feet and he's got really good speed. 432 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: I mean, he's got a lot of strong assets. And 433 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 2: we know all this too already, but we get this 434 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: is a smart wide receiver group too. You have to 435 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: really know this entire offense because they're flipping routes, set 436 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: the line, but they don't have time to change positions 437 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: where they're lined up, and they're splits to run Zay, 438 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 2: he's got to run Christian's route and vice versa. And 439 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: they did that a bunch last year. Add Ridley to 440 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: that mix and now you'll have some combinations against secondaries 441 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: that you should have some advantages. 442 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: You know, you. 443 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: Compare the Jaguars wide receiver group to like the Detroit Lions, 444 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 2: and look, they've got a really good one at aman Ross. 445 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 2: Saint Brown really good, okay, But after him, this wide 446 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: receiver group that the Jaguars have, I can guarantee the 447 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: Lions would love to have this group. But I'm talking 448 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 2: not just the top four or five guys. You go 449 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: past the four or five guys that the Jaguars have, 450 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: and you got some legitimate players that deserve to play 451 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: in this league, from Tim Jones to Austin to eighty three. 452 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: I mean cooks, and Cooks is a young player, rookies. 453 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: He needs some time yet. But I mean there's it's 454 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: always been around here. I mean that's yeah, you wish 455 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 2: that right. It's it's a deep group. And I can 456 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: tell you if you if you took away the top 457 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 2: two guys, Okay, let's take Ridley and who's gonna be 458 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: number two? You're gonna take Christian out? Are you gonna 459 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 2: take that? 460 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 4: Sake Kirk for stats? 461 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: Okay, let's take Kirk House. Now we got Za and 462 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: the rest. You'd feel okay, you'd sit there and you go, well, 463 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 2: we're unproven, but we feel confident about the prospect of 464 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: this young group because we feel like these guys are 465 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: gonna be able to compete. And I literally, if you 466 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: take the two top two guys out. You're probably not 467 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: even looking. I think you're still better than a Detroit. 468 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: Line, especially if you consider anger and receiver, which yeh. 469 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, they get really deep on guys. 470 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: Deep group, good group, and it's exciting and it's gonna 471 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: be very hard come cut down day when they have 472 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: to make the decision for that position group not only 473 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 2: two ways one how many are you gonna keep? And 474 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: who are you gonna keep? They started the NFL season. 475 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: It's just around the corner and we can't wait for 476 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: you to be back at the bank. The Jags host 477 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: the Dolphins next Saturday, August twenty sixth locking those seats 478 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: now call nine O four six three three two thousand 479 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 2: or visit Jaguars dot com slash tickets. 480 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: We'll wrap it up in a moment. This is Huddle 481 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: Up This Auto group, Jack Leon. 482 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Auto Final Moments, J P. Shadwick, Jeff Flogoman, John Osier 483 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: on Huddle Up on this Wednesday afternoon from the team 484 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: Hotel in Troy, Michigan. All right, so one practice down, 485 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 2: one more tomorrow, no pads. 486 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: And help me out here. I will you know me, 487 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 4: I'm a pro. I want to do a good job, Mark, 488 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: But tell me how to watch this thing without pads? 489 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: Uh, well you just watched okay, Well, well thank you. 490 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: Uh No, And I I get the feeling that you 491 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: were hopeful that the second practice against the Detroit Lines 492 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: will be in pads as well. 493 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't ask for mind. 494 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: You can come out and say it, John, It's okay. 495 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: I was hoping a little bit. 496 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: Well, are in the rules? Are is that you can 497 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: be in pads if you were I mean, if you're 498 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: in you can be in pads for two consecutive days 499 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: and then take it dow off and then be back 500 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: in pads for two consecutive days again. Or you can 501 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: be in pads for three consecutive days then you have 502 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: to take I think it's like two or three days off, right, 503 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: So they could have been in pads, and uh I 504 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: get the impression that Dan Campbell probably would have liked 505 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: to have been in pads. But look, here's the thing. 506 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: I don't, okay, I don't. I believe in what Doug 507 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: Peterson decides. The guys won a Super Bowl. I haven't, 508 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: and he's been a highly successful coach. I trust his judgment, 509 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: and if that's what he believes is best for his 510 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: football team. Johnny, then we're gonna accept it, and we're 511 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: gonna like it. Accept it, accept it. 512 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: I think Doug is wrong enough person that he can 513 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 4: understand if I don't like it. But no, and again 514 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: this time of years, paramount, you had three guys injured 515 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: today in some capacity. Let's not have anymore. 516 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: I'm curious, you know how, after today's practice and what 517 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: happens tomorrow, does that affect any playing time in the 518 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: game on Saturday. Do you expect some starters to go. 519 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: I don't expect many starters to jp. I said this 520 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: at our meeting last week when we were getting ready 521 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: for the Dallas game, and Johnny I said that I 522 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: would be surprised if anybody placed oar or wise against 523 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, just because the whole reason that you 524 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: come to a place like Detroit to practice with the 525 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions is to have a controlled environment for your 526 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: starter so that you can have a lot of reps 527 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 2: with him in practice. And if we watch today's practice, 528 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of first team reps. So now in the 529 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: game is a great opportunity to evaluate the guys that 530 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: you got to decide are they going to be good 531 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: enough to make my football. 532 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 4: Team with one fewer preseason game. What you're talking about 533 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 4: comes into play even more. 534 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean for me, controlled reps for my 535 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: start and less likely of getting them hurt because I'm 536 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: not probably not going to play them in a game, 537 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: so I don't think they will a great opportunity to 538 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: evaluate the guys that you need to look at, which 539 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: is your twos, threes and fours in a game environment 540 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 2: when the lights were bright come Saturday afternoon, and then 541 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: the last preseason game against Miami at home. You've got 542 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: two weeks from that game until the start of the season. 543 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: So I think that's a great opportunity to get your 544 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: start as some really really good reps. See what Doug 545 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: Peterson decides. Moving ahead, the Jaguars and the Lions practice 546 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 2: tomorrow's same time in the morning. Jags am tomorrow right 547 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: from Alan Park to look forward to that, and that's 548 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: from the practice field. We'll be back here tomorrow four 549 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 2: o'clock with the Jaguars Happy Hour and then the Doug 550 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: Peterson Show and the Jaguars Am was from the Grassy 551 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 2: Knoll today. It was a grassy knoll. 552 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: There right there, right where the car parked right out 553 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: of the tailgate. 554 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, nice and nice setup. I was watching you 555 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: guys over there. It's pretty nice. I did a nice jet. 556 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: By the way, the Detroit Lions have a nice facility. 557 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 2: It ain't as nice as the is the mac. 558 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: Electric Center. 559 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: Yes, the Miller Electric Center. Because I got a little 560 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: mini tour. You guys know, I kind of told the 561 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: security guard. I said, hey, kai use the bathroom, and 562 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: he said, hey, let me all take you in and 563 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: I'll show you. And so he tacked me in and 564 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: he said that, and I said, you're in here, you 565 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 2: mind if I get a little tour. And so I 566 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: got a tour. I mean I got to see all. Yeah, 567 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: I got I got coffee. I got a cup of 568 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: coffee and everything. So I got to see the facility. 569 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: They got a nice setup, but it's not as nice 570 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: as the Miller Electric Center. Logs thanks for jumping into heay, 571 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it, and uh, it'll be good to get 572 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: Bucky back in here. He's a much prettier face. That's 573 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: Jeff Loghman, that's John Oser. Thanks to our entire crew, 574 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: britt Reebert David, the Candice, Joe Fortuneto, David Joe back Home, 575 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: and Patrick Cavanaugh cutting SOTS today for our entire crew. 576 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for watching Huddle Up.