1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Where are you in my living room? 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 2: What's going on? 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm just hanging out, kind of looking at the lights. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 3: Been a hope for a little bit, watching the show. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 3: Girlfriend just went to sleep, so I've just been chilling. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: How can I get you today? Is there anything in 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: particularly called in to talk about? 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 4: Man? 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: Well, I got bit today, and honestly, like stuff like 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: this is a normal occurrence. I just don't really know 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: how to deal with it anymore. Kind of over it, 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: and I kind of feel bad because I think it's 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 3: my responsibility not to be over it. So I'm just conflicted. 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: So it says here that you are a bit today 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: by a human child, and that you work with children 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: that have behavioral issues. Is that accurate? 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very accurate. 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: It tough job, tough it is, So tell me this. 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure you knew before you got into it that 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: it would be a tough job, and yet you chose 21 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: to get into it anyway. Why did you make that decision? 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I love the community I grew 23 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: up in. I've loved sports in general, and so I 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: started coaching, you know, local basketball teams as a side hobby, 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: and I realized there's something I really love to do. 26 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: So I tried to get back into my you know, 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: hometown system where I can start coaching and you know, 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: just being a part of something again. And it's just 29 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: been something that has brought me like a lot of 30 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: joy and purpose in my life. But I'm not like 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: somebody that has a typical degree, So being in the 32 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: school systems just hard in general. So I kind of 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: have to get in where I can fit in. And 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: being in one of these roles as like a helper 35 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: for you know, these kids with special needs, you know, 36 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: is a great way to get into these districts, but 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: it just kind of sucks in general, just because you're 38 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: more or less just viewed as not you know, super 39 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: important or a super integral to anything that. 40 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: Really you feel as though this job working with special 41 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: needs kids, you feel as though it is it is 42 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: not a respectable or not respectable, but not a respected 43 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: around the community. 44 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 3: Well yeah, like and it's not something I guess I 45 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: necessarily knew what before I got the job. After getting 46 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: the job, and just like through social media and stuff, 47 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: I see like, yeah, this is definitely something where other 48 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: people have these same issues where they you know, are 49 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 3: stressed out about what's going on, and they do with 50 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: too much at work for you know, to be honest, 51 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: not enough pay. It's just it's just tough. So I 52 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: feel like I'm in this box where I did actually 53 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: end up being getting into a situation where I'm able 54 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: to coach. So I am coaching now and I'm loving it. 55 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: But my day to day is just so awful, and 56 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: you know, getting bit and punched and slapped and kicked 57 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: and cussed out by children you know who I know, 58 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: you know can't necessarily control it, so it's not their fault. 59 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: I just need it. 60 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 3: It's just a weird anger. Not anger, but it's just 61 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: a weird emotion to have because you're not really sure 62 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: who to direct your frustrations at. 63 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: So I wanted just the thing you said at the 64 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: beginning where you were like, you feel as though part 65 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: of the job is dealing with I forget exactly what 66 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: you said, but you said something where that that indicated 67 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: that you were feeling guilty about this feeling you have 68 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: of of it being too much, and of not wanting 69 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: to do it anymore. 70 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, because honestly, like you build these relationships with these kids, 71 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 3: and you know, if I'm not even if I'm not 72 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: a full on teacher. Like these kids come to school 73 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: every day and they, you know, look forward to seeing me, 74 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: and I look forward to seeing them and having our 75 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: little interactions. But at the end of the day, I'm 76 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: not able to pay my bills. I'm not able to do, 77 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: you know, extra things for my girlfriend who deserves it, 78 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 3: who's supposed to hell out of me, you know. And 79 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: so it's just like it's a really conflicting place to 80 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 3: be in. So now I'm like, like, I need to 81 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: get out and get something better. That way I can 82 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 3: get to the next stage in life. But at the 83 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 3: same time, I know they're not going to hire somebody 84 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: that maybe cares as much as I do. And maybe 85 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 3: it's because they didn't grow up in the same town 86 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: as me, you know, and they don't see themselves and 87 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: these children. 88 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 89 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: It's one of those tough things where it's like, Okay, 90 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: if I give up on everybody else's too. 91 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. 92 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: I just don't want to be bit Yeah, I mean that's. 93 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: A reasonable desire to have. Let's can we start there, 94 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: just that that's a reasonable desire to not want to 95 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: get a bit. You know, you're I think you're demanding 96 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: this like superman like energy out of yourself. That it 97 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: is not realistic off the bat. Yeah, because you're like 98 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: guilty about the fact that you don't want children to 99 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: bite you and hit you. 100 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 101 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: But also I get it, I understand what you're saying. 102 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 2: You feel as though you feel this responsibility which is 103 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: noble of you. It's noble of you, And there's many 104 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's it's this is tough thing, 105 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: and I don't know either way, because there's a lot 106 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: of different schools of thought about it. There's a school 107 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: of thought to nobility, which is that you you kind 108 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: of take on pain and discomforts and unruliness of these 109 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: kids and you do it for the noble higher purpose 110 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: that if you give up on them, do everyone else will. 111 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: And there's something to that school of thoughts. But there's 112 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: a lot of other schools of thought that could say, well, 113 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: you're a human being too, and you need to recognize 114 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: your own fallibility that yeah, getting kicked and hit sucks, 115 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 2: and if you can't do it anymore and you don't 116 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: have the energy, then it's a disservice. To yourself and 117 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: possibly even to the kids, for you to be involved 118 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: in something that you know is just fucking weighing down 119 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: on you. And I don't know where I'm not gonna 120 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: say that any of those are the right choice, but 121 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: maybe that is the point here, Maybe that neither of 122 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: those is the right choice, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, 123 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: whatever you do decide to go with, I would hope 124 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: that there is I hope that the understanding that neither 125 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: of those is the quote right choice helps you with 126 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: the kind of cognitive dissonance of it, you know, as 127 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: in whichever you choose you can lean into. If you 128 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: decide that you want to this on as a noble 129 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: purpose and you want to you know, go at it 130 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: warrior mode, then all right, we can lean into that, 131 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 2: and we can take pride in the fact that that's 132 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: what we've chosen and that you know, it's not the 133 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: wrong choice. And if we want to do the other 134 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: thing and we want to go I need to live 135 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: my own life and not get fucking, you know, stuff 136 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: thrown at me all the time, then you know that's 137 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: not the wrong choice either. Yeah, what do you think 138 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: about all of that? 139 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: No, it's it's you bring up you know, a lot 140 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: of other points, even just the stuff weighing down on me. 141 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: I felt that today, Let's say I coached basketball, so, uh, 142 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: like I went to practice today after you know, having 143 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: a tough day at work. I just felt myself being 144 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: a little bit more heavy on, you know, the the 145 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: other kids that I work with, and at the end 146 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: of the day, they are kids like their high schoolers, 147 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: and so it's just like, Okay, now I'm you know, 148 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: face face with a lot of emotions, you know there 149 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, you know, now you're not you're not 150 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: being the best you. And I've been having more and 151 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: more thoughts of like, uh, I only do get one life, 152 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: so yeah, I have to kind of choose how I 153 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: live it. 154 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the next step. 155 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: It's pretty crucial. I love what I do, Like I 156 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: wish I could do what I do forever. Honestly, if 157 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: I was getting paid enough to live on, I could 158 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 3: get you know, punched and slapped and kicked by a 159 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: billion of these kids. Like it doesn't matter to me. 160 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, whenever you have to go home 161 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: and face you know, other realities, that's just makes it tougher. 162 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: So what state do you live in? 163 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: Can? 164 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: I ask, uh, Kansas, Kansas and they don't. And your 165 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: high school teacher? 166 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 3: Uh, so I work in the elementary school and. 167 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: I yeah, I think you said they were high school kids. 168 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: So I coach at the high school level. 169 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: You coach at the high school, Okay, And you don't 170 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: really get paid to coach that much? You met. Your 171 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: main job where you can pay it is the elementary school. 172 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 173 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, essentially I get a stipend for coaching, but with 174 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: the hours I have to miss because I'm hourly, and 175 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: that a normal teacher, I actually end up losing money, 176 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 3: you know, driving back and forth and taking hours out 177 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: of the check to go over and coach. Yeah, but 178 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: that's that's something I knew I was going to have 179 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 3: to do, so that's not as big a deal to me. 180 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: Hey, you bring up a good point when you say 181 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: that you only have one life, and is this how 182 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: I really want to live it? I mean, I always 183 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: think that that's what's a prime way to think about 184 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: That's a prime framing device upon which to to think 185 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: about your life. You know that it's crazy, crazy short, Yeah, 186 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: and you should you know. Yeah, it's tough man, Yeah. 187 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: Tough honestly though, like you know, I've been reading some 188 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: books that have been you know, interested in Again, I 189 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: haven't been reading it in a while, you know, for 190 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 3: the last couple of years of my life. So I've 191 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: been kind of just rethinking myself and you know, listening 192 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: to podcasts. Me and my girlfriend discovered you about a 193 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: year ago, and it's I mean, stuff you say, man, 194 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: it changes some of my perspectives. So I got to 195 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: thank you there and it's helped me to the last 196 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: couple you know whatever months and just trying to be 197 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 3: a better human about it. 198 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: Cool. I'm glad to hear that. I think. Fuck, man, 199 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. You're doing the best you can out here. 200 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: I feel like that's all you can do, right, I mean, 201 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: you gave if if anything, if anything, I hope that 202 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: whatever you choose, listen, listen. First of all, so many people, 203 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: more people than not, have been like fuck those kids. 204 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 2: Why would I ever want to do that? That's like 205 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: most that's me, by the way, I would never do this. 206 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: I'd never do this. So for you, well, okay, and 207 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't say that. I say that. I say that 208 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: to me. For you to do it is a lot 209 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: for you to do it for however much time you 210 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: did it. For you to do it, you literally like 211 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: to do it until you cannot any longer. Is so much. 212 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: So whatever you decide to take, you know, pride in that. 213 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: Thank you and I will. 214 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Thank you. 215 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, just thank you for talking to me about this. 216 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: And there's been a lot on my chest. And honestly, 217 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: it's not something I can talk to my coworkers about 218 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: because it just gets weird, you know, because now you're 219 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: talking to your boss about how much you hit your 220 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: job and just stuff like that. And my girlfriend, like, 221 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: you know, I don't like bothering her with about it 222 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: every day because you know, you'd like to keep their positive. 223 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: So well, well, well I want to say that it's 224 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: it's you mentioned a funny thing just now. Your coworkers, 225 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: I mean, not necessarily your bosses, but the other coaches, 226 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: how do they feel about this ship? 227 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: So they don't kind of have different you know life, 228 00:14:55,280 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: you know places. Some of them work at the high 229 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: school level, so they kind of make a salary and 230 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: they you know, they've been making some money for a while, 231 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: so they're a little more comfortable online. Another like a 232 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: couple other ones have other jobs to where they have 233 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: good money. So I'm the only one that's really still 234 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: at that first stage of life still and it's due 235 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: to me making them just like silly choices in my 236 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: early twenties, which is whatever, Like that's everybody. But I'm 237 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: just kind of trying to play catch up. But I'm 238 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: trying to play catch up my way to I don't 239 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 3: really want to, you know, if I'm forcing this box 240 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: where I have to go to the conventional route, I 241 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: guess I'll have to at the end of the day. 242 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: But I'm just trying to, you know, do what I can. 243 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: Josh, thanks for all the kind of words and for 244 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: you know, getting bit by children so that so that 245 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: I and many others don't have to. 246 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Hey, lal h, thank you for your kind of words. 247 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: Zid anything else you want to say to the people 248 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: of the computer before we go. 249 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: No, you know, live your life. Be you. Like I said, 250 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: you only get one life, so it's true. Uh, do 251 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: what you can to make sure it is the best 252 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: one for you. 253 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: Hey, take care Josh, you too. I liked I liked him. 254 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: I liked him he was nice. I didn't just like 255 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: him because he was nice to me. Sometimes I like 256 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: people when they're when they're mean to me, So you know, 257 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: you can't make me like you just by being nice. 258 00:16:54,200 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: I liked him because, well, because he was nice and 259 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: I felt just I kind of felt him because that's 260 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: a tough thing with the with the money, and I 261 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: don't I was gonna say something about how it's a 262 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: failure of the system, but I'm I don't like talking 263 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 2: about social economics stuff because I'm stupid and I have 264 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: no idea what I'm talking about. But he's really doing 265 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: the best he can. I could tell he. 266 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: Is. 267 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: I could tell he was like he's down to go 268 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: the fucking warrior mode of like, I believe in what 269 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing so much that I don't care about getting 270 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: pissed on by high school kids. But he just can't 271 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 2: because they're not paying him enough to to do it, 272 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 2: and it's a bummer. But again, I meant what I 273 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: said when I was like, I wouldn't do this. Most 274 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: of the people who are stending to this right now 275 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't do it. So the fact that he did it 276 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: for any amount of time is something to be proud of. 277 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: And I hope he finds a good balance where he's 278 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: not fucking killing himself just to serve this cause, but 279 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 2: feels as though he's doing a thing that is, like 280 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: he was saying, worthy of his short amount of time 281 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: on the earth. I let's take a call. Hell, Hi, 282 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: who is this? 283 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 5: This is Chloe? 284 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: Hi? Chloe has gone going good? 285 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 5: How about you? 286 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: I am, I'm feeling pretty good. Actually, I'm I'm I'm 287 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm on a I'm on a spiritual journey, Chloe. I'm 288 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: trying to protect my peace more. I'm trying to work 289 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: as a little as I possibly can, take more deep breaths, 290 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: and I do not eat thirty pieces of candy in 291 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: one day. It's going all right. 292 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 5: You know those are good goals. It sounds like you're 293 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 5: crafting mindfulness a bit. 294 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I mean, I get up on this fucking 295 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: podcast and everyone's asking me about what to do in 296 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: their lives, and I hope they know that I have 297 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: absolutely no idea. I don't know. 298 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 5: I don't know what to do with my own hearing 299 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: advice and my get go. 300 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: What's going on with you, Chloe? 301 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: Oh not much. I'm chilling in bed right now talking 302 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: to you. 303 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: Why what did what did you do? Today? 304 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,120 Speaker 6: Let's see, I went to the gym, had a crazy 305 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 6: sessions and got back and just had to meet myself an. 306 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 5: I day and I had a therapy session and I 307 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: just chilled and I watched you and here I am. 308 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: Now, how do you feel right now? Do you feel therapized? 309 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 5: I feel relaxed, but that's probably because I am good. 310 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, well listen, uh, you did tell the call 311 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: screen or something and I got you told the call 312 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: screen or that your mom wishes that you were gay. 313 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, she kind of wished that ever since I was 314 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: in high school. 315 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: What your what your mom? Ever since? Ever since she 316 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: was in high school, she wished that you were gay, Like, 317 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 2: ever since she was in high school, she wish she 318 00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: had a gay daughter. 319 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 5: No, no, ever since I was in high school. Basically, 320 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 5: I think there's a few reasons for it, but I 321 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: believe in love at first sight, and I only experienced 322 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 5: that once in my life. It was when I was 323 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 5: in high school, and it was with a girl. Nothing 324 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 5: ever came of it, but I think that's when she 325 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 5: started really pushing for me to be gay. And I 326 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: don't know ever since, with any time that I've had 327 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 5: a partner, they've all been men. It's like they lose 328 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 5: brownie points for not being a woman. 329 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: Man. Your poor mother. 330 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I think her part is in the right place. 331 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 5: It's just for for me, it's a little bit. It 332 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 5: caused me to question things because she hasn't really ever 333 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 5: steered me wrong and and parents don't know everything that 334 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 5: She's been pretty dan right a lot of the time 335 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 5: and interesting. Sometimes I'm like, should. 336 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: I be mm hmm Okay, So your mother has uh, 337 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: you know, given you advice and direction in life that 338 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: has been very beneficial to you, and so part of 339 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: you is wondering if if maybe she's right and you 340 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: should be gay. 341 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm bye h. But I've never really 342 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: explored her relationship. 343 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: Wait your your your bye. Yeah, that's a really good compromise. 344 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: She has to admit. 345 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, well, I think her argument is that 346 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 5: since I've never explored it, that I should. 347 00:22:53,119 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: Okay, your your mom's your her mom said to you 348 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: that you should explore sexually with other Like, Okay, Here's 349 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: what I wanted to ask when you said your mom 350 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: has pushed you to be gay? What does that actually 351 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: look like? What does that mean? 352 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: It means that? Okay, So when it started in high school, 353 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: it was very subtle. It was always like, you know, 354 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 5: I'd be okay with it if you want to date 355 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 5: a girl, or she would try to elude that my 356 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 5: girl friend. 357 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 358 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 5: But in adulthood it's been more like, you know, you 359 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: try to date a woman, don't don't go with that guy. 360 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: Go need a girl first. When I'm in a relationship, 361 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 5: a committed one, she always just kind of hyes, And 362 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 5: I just know what she's dying at. I know what 363 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: she wishes, she wishes, but I was an independent woman 364 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 5: living in a wife with a girlfriend, with maybe two 365 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: cats in a high ride. That's what she wishes. 366 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: Here's what I think. Here's what I think. Obviously, we 367 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: all know you cannot choose your sexuality. And I think 368 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: your mom, I think your mom is. I think your 369 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: mom wishes she was gay. 370 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 5: You know it could be, but she's married to a man. 371 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: She's been through I think she's had terrible experiences with men. 372 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: She wishes that she was gay, but and so because 373 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: but because she can't just be gay, she I guess, 374 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: wants you to be gay so she can live vicariously 375 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 2: through you. 376 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 5: I mean, it's so strange though, because I have a 377 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 5: trans brother and before he was trans. He was dating 378 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 5: a girl for school, so it's like she could live 379 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 5: vicarious him, but she wants to do it through me. 380 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: Wait, so your brother is trans and I guess before 381 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 2: they transitioned they were presenting as female yeah, and dating 382 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: a woman yes, and then transitioned into a straight man. 383 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 7: Yes. 384 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: And your poor fucking mother she almost had. 385 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 5: Her dream almost almost. 386 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 387 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a it's a strange family. My mom's students, 388 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 5: My brother is Wickan, and my sister is Jewish. 389 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: Your brother is Wickan? What does that mean? 390 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: It's a vein off of paganism. I belief that's sick. Yeah, 391 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 5: it's pretty cool anytime that I go to him and 392 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: his wife, But they do rituals. I'm not like candles. 393 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: I think there's something to do with gods and goddesses. 394 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: It's interesting. 395 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hmm. I So let me ask you this 396 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 2: in seriousness. Do you have a good relationship with your mom? 397 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? I definitely do. I went to go with her 398 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 5: in Wales for three months last year and it helps 399 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 5: me so much. 400 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hm. 401 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 5: Call her pretty much every time you get out of 402 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 5: the gyms here, so we're staying connected. 403 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: Mm hmm hm, Well that's good. M Uh, Like, how 404 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: often is she she is she still like she's she's 405 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: still unrelentingly trying to push you to be gay. Uh. 406 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 5: You know, she's definitely backed off in the past six 407 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 5: months or so because I have been with someone for 408 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 5: two and a half years now and she's kind of 409 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 5: gotten to a point of chasey. But it's also she 410 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 5: always she does something to ask you know if I 411 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: ever thought about exploring that side of things, and it 412 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 5: just I know I am thinking about it really too 413 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 5: long after those conversations with her. Yeah, No, it's uh, 414 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: but I don't want to sacrifize a great relationship or 415 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 5: something like that for exploring something. 416 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: Uh. 417 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: Have you told your mom? Uh that it's that it's 418 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: weird to keep asking you if you're gay. 419 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 5: I I guess it felt normal because she been doing 420 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 5: it for so long that I never thought to tell 421 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: her that. 422 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, does it bother you? 423 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: No, it just makes a question. Thanks, It makes a 424 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 5: question in my relationship and questions I'm making the right 425 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 5: choice or not? 426 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what's your name? Club? You seem like a 427 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: very sweet person and sounds like you have a good 428 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: life of family that you care about, a partner that 429 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: you care about. I have no idea what your mom's 430 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: deal is, but I hope that you you don't let her. 431 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: I don't know warm into your head about whether or 432 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: not you are making the right decisions with your life. 433 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: Because are you happy right now? 434 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 435 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Okay, Well you got there based on following your decisions, 436 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: so I assume that following your own decisions will lead 437 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: you to further happiness in the future. 438 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 7: Thank you. 439 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 5: I think you're right, but. 440 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't Maybe your mom knows more 441 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: than me. 442 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: Maybe maybe she has a crystal ball. 443 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 2: Uh Chloe, is there anything else that you want to 444 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: say to me or the people of the computer before 445 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: we go? 446 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 5: Uh? No, No, it was nice chatting with you. 447 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 2: It's nice chatting with you too, Chloe. Thank you very 448 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: much for calling. 449 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: Good night. 450 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: Hello. 451 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 7: Hi is this Loyle? 452 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: Yes? Who is this? 453 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 6: Hey? 454 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: What's your What's what's what's your life like? 455 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: It's good. 456 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 7: I live in San Francisco. Been working a lot fucking 457 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 7: expensive fuck to live here, but still doing it as 458 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 7: best I can. I'm gonna see you with my friend 459 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 7: Chris see who I turned onto your stream. We just 460 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 7: got tickets in San Francisco. 461 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, man at the Swedish American Hall. I've heard 462 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: it's a great venue. I'm very excited. 463 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's awesome. I've seen a lot of good shows there. 464 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: So listen, Evan. Is there anything in particular you wanted 465 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: to talk about today? 466 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 467 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 7: Actually, uh, I wanted to thank you for being part 468 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 7: of connecting me with my current partner. I dressed as 469 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 7: the Therapy Echo for Halloween this past year and met 470 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 7: them at the Goth Night, which is fucking hilarious and awesome. 471 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: They're listening right now, I think too really, but yeah, 472 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 7: we're in like separate houses, but yeah, I wanted to 473 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 7: shouts them out high. 474 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: Nas, Hello Nas. So your partner, like what do they 475 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: say to you? 476 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 7: We had like I think we had matched on like 477 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 7: bumble or hinge or something like maybe a week or 478 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 7: two before and then like the day of Halloween, we're like, 479 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 7: oh yeah, like kind of like what are you doing 480 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 7: for Halloween? And it turned out we were both going 481 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: to the same like party at DNA Lounge. They do 482 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 7: like a goth night that like a couple of my 483 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 7: friends go to regularly, and they had invited me to 484 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 7: go to, and I was nervous about like having a 485 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 7: costume or whatever because I haven't dressed up in a 486 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 7: long time. But I was just like, well, fuck, if 487 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go like and I'm gonna be at a 488 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 7: goth night, like, what would be a fun se to couss. 489 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 7: So instantly Therapy Get Go was was the jam. 490 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: How much was your costume? Because I bought two today 491 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: and they were both ninety dollars. 492 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was around that I'm gonna rel. 493 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 2: You spent ninety for me. I'm like, I'm never gonna 494 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: for me. I'm like, I'm never gonna regret buying a 495 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: gecko costume because I need them all the time. But 496 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: you bought you spent ninety dollars on this fucking costume 497 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: to wear it one day? 498 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: Fuck? 499 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, Well I got to wear it to two 500 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 7: parties like over that weekend. 501 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah it's worth it. 502 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I had. 503 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: A question for you actually about uh, like you have 504 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 7: a couple of them? You bought two today? 505 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: You said, right, I did, I bought to today? 506 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 7: What like in terms of maintenance, I had to throw 507 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 7: away the feet after like one night out because they 508 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 7: were fucking horrifying. 509 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: So so on tour. No, no, I finish your question. 510 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: Now you finish your question that all hop in. 511 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 7: Is there any way to like treat them because I 512 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 7: kept the hands in the head because I think they're 513 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 7: funny and they're like hanging up in my room. But uh, yeah, 514 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 7: the feet were destroyed after like one night out like 515 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 7: walking around in San Francisco. They're fucking disgusting. 516 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: The feet get totally fucked The reason I have to 517 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: buy I have. So here's the thing I have. I have. 518 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: I have infinite amount of heads. I have so many heads, 519 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: so many torsos, and so many pants, but I'm always 520 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: low on feet and hands because the feet they get 521 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: fucked up all the time. So I'll typically I'll have 522 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 2: to spend ninety bucks to buy a whole costume just 523 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: for the feet because I'm I'm always running the long 524 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 2: feet because they get fucked up so easily. And I'm 525 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 2: about to go on this you know, crazy tour, and 526 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: so I'm gonna need and you're yes, you're correct. The 527 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: feet get fucked up anytime you wear them out, So yeah, 528 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: you gotta. 529 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 7: Like, honestly, you should reach out to the company that 530 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: makes them and see if they could do like a 531 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 7: bespoke deal for you and be like, hey, like I 532 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 7: need x amount of feet, like give me like four hundred. 533 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: Of these bad boys. 534 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 7: And like a good a good chunk of hands because 535 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,959 Speaker 7: I feel like, yeah, everything else is pretty durable. Like 536 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 7: the suit itself is fine, like even just from like 537 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 7: two nights out, and like, honestly, the the club that 538 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 7: I was at was like really packed and like I 539 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 7: got trampled a bit though, Like that definitely put more 540 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 7: wear and tear on it than like either sitting on 541 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 7: stage or like talking to somebody like out in the world. 542 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: But who See, here's the thing is, I might I've 543 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 2: thought about reaching out to the company that makes them, 544 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 2: but I'm scared to negotiate with them because and look, 545 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: maybe it's not a good idea to say this publicly, 546 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: but here's the thing that I need them so much 547 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: more than they need me. 548 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 7: You have no idea that this is the feel like 549 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 7: you're getting to a point that the tables could turn though. 550 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: No, no, Evan, Evan and Evan. If they stop making 551 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: this Gecko costume, my career is over them. Fucked. 552 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 7: There's gotta be some There's gotta be some listeners. That 553 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 7: have like crazy etsy businesses that would make you some 554 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 7: bespoke suits, like I don't know why that isn't a 555 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 7: thing already. 556 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 4: Well, look, i'll tell you what I had to go 557 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 4: to the same plate. 558 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 2: If you ever want to make your ninety dollars, if 559 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: you ever want to you know, if you ever want 560 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 2: to make your ninety dollars back, you know, hang on 561 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: to that suit and maybe one day I'll buy it 562 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: off of you. 563 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 7: It'll be missing feet, which is like the most important part. 564 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: Twenty dollars, it's yours. 565 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 7: I'll say, I'll bring you. You said you got too 566 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 7: many heads, but I'll bring you an extra pair of 567 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 7: hands that are only lightly used. 568 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: When I come see you in San Francisco. There might gift. 569 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: Pciate that. I appreciate that. By the way, I want 570 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 2: to say something. I appreciate that you said that I 571 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: helped you meet your partner, But in the story you 572 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: told I had nothing to do with it. You guys 573 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: just matched on bumble. 574 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 7: Well yeah, I mean, but it was their first time, 575 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 7: like meeting in person, like the first time we saw 576 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 7: each other in real life. Like I was full, like 577 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 7: I did the green face paint, I did everything like 578 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 7: I tried to go screen accurate. I bought, I brought 579 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 7: a microphone. 580 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 2: So I just made you look a little bit insane. 581 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: I actually detracted from. 582 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: This not at all. 583 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 7: I I had a couple of people actually come up, 584 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 7: Like I got a lot of people asking if I 585 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 7: was like Yoshi or like a frog. But I had 586 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 7: quite a few people that recognized me as Therapy get 587 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 7: Go and some people that actually thought. 588 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: I was you. 589 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: That's fucking sick. That's amazing. 590 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, they were all really stoked, Like everyone that knew 591 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 7: what it was were like really fucking hyped, Like you 592 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 7: got a lot of love in San Francisco. 593 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: Damn, that's fucking sick. That's awesome. I'm sure that way 594 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: more people just thought you were frog, though. 595 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 7: I did get a couple of frogs, but I think 596 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 7: it was also I don't know what the full crossover is, 597 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 7: but gos knight is definitely has like a higher capita 598 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 7: I think of just out in the world like than 599 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 7: out in the world. People who recognized me as Therapy Gecko, 600 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 7: which is kind of fun. 601 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 2: What did your what did your partner address. 602 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 7: As they were in like latex like bondage gear. 603 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you two had a we got 604 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 2: one night. 605 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 7: We did we like right after we met, like five 606 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 7: minutes after a meeting in person, we took like photo 607 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 7: booth pictures that are fucking hilarious. I can I can 608 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 7: send you on the on Instagram if you want. But yeah, 609 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 7: it was I actually tagged you, like. 610 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 2: When I was walking around you tagged me in them. 611 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I I not in that one. But when I 612 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 7: was like walking around like in SF and like getting 613 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 7: gacked out by like my friends, they like, I tagged 614 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 7: you in a couple of photos of me as there 615 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 7: if you get go on Halloween, and you liked them, 616 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 7: and I said, thank you. 617 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: Ah, yes I did. I saw a lot of people 618 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 2: who are I I like to that night. I went 619 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: through my like mentions and liked all the photos of 620 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: people dressed as me. But I didn't see any versions 621 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: of me that were being uh masochistically choked by someone 622 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: in other I'll have to go back and look though. 623 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: We're out there, Evan, is there anything else you want 624 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 2: to say to the people of the computer. I appreciate 625 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: your homage. 626 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 7: No, man, honestly, I'm just really so talk to you. 627 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 7: It's called in a couple of times I've gotten through 628 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 7: to your call screeners who were super nice, like it 629 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 7: was great to hear them on the stream. This has 630 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 7: been a great stream tonight, Like I caught most of it. 631 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 7: I started listening when I was at work and it 632 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 7: got me through to getting home. I'll say that the 633 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 7: survivor of the Weeni War. 634 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 2: I'll say this. I want to say this, fucking oh, 635 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 2: if you have one more usage of the gecko costume, 636 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: wear it to the show? 637 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 4: Really? 638 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay? 639 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 7: My friends who got us the tickets was asking and 640 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 7: they were just like, should we should we go all 641 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 7: as geckos? And I was like, that's kind of crazy, 642 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 7: but like people. 643 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: Have people people have done that before. Where if you 644 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: and no one listening to this, if you're coming to 645 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: the live show and you have a gecko guys, wear 646 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 2: it to the show, please show your dedications. So I'm 647 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 2: going to start my cults. Thank you for calling, Evan. 648 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, of course, I have a great night. 649 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: Gek you doo? Hello? Oh Geka? 650 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: Who is this? 651 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: Hey? Hi, this is Alexander. You Mike you might know 652 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: be as lex though. What's going on? 653 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: Alexander? 654 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Ship? 655 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: Yes? 656 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 2: It says here that it says here, Alex from Chicago 657 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 2: went to high school with you. We didn't go to 658 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: high school together, but we we. 659 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no. Your call screener got that incorrect. 660 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 4: Let me, well, I know what, I went high school 661 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 4: with met you through hence we almost made that Watermelon 662 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: time travel movie together. 663 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: But that's a whole other thing. 664 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: Yes, one of my one of my best friends of 665 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 2: all time went to a high school in Baltimore where 666 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: and you went to that high school? 667 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: And we yes, very good man. 668 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you doing? 669 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: Man? 670 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 2: Has it been? 671 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? It's kind of fucking a roller coaster. 672 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: Man. 673 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 4: I'm actually doing pretty decent right now. I'm actually life updates. 674 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 4: I do kind of want to get to the story 675 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: I gotta tell you about Life Updates is I'm currently 676 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 4: in an outpatient rehab program. I'm currently working for my 677 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 4: best entrants on sobriety's sake, which I've been I don't know, 678 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 4: off a couple of times over the years, but this 679 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 4: is kind of the most serious I've taken it in 680 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 4: the darker news of things going on in my life. 681 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 4: But mentally I'm doing pretty great and kind of like 682 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: a upswing, but not as bad as it could be. 683 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 4: I'm just people don't know too. I'm talking to you, like, 684 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 4: do you know me. I'm a bipolar one diagnosed. 685 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: I do do real therapy and all that. 686 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 4: Not to undermine you get but I do do all 687 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 4: the me. 688 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: I am not a real therapist, dude. 689 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 4: I've been getting like as much help from you at 690 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 4: this point as my real therapist I used to have. 691 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: I've filmed your. 692 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 4: Show, not for like I've seen you put us some 693 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 4: clips like back in the day. 694 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: If you're doing this, uh, get up. 695 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 4: But I was working at Concierge Downtown at a place 696 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 4: called Block thirty seven in Chicago, and I was just 697 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 4: bored as shit, like on this computer for like eight 698 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 4: hour shifts and I just fuck around like on Reddit 699 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 4: sometimes and I open read it one day and You're 700 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: just like the top of the fucking page and I'm like, 701 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: I know that. 702 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: Get go. That's fucking lyle no way. 703 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been watching longtime watchers since like COVID times 704 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: or beginning of COVID times, and yeah, like third time 705 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 4: caller finally getting through. 706 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 2: That's fucking awesome, man, that's cool. I remember I remember 707 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 2: when we were in high school. I was really excited 708 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: to meet you because you were another guy who I was. 709 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 2: I you know, I made movies in high school, and 710 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 2: I made movies with my friends. But I think my 711 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 2: friends at the time, like they they they loved helping 712 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 2: out with the movies, but I don't think any of 713 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 2: them like wanted to like like on their own, like 714 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 2: pursue being a a filmmaker or anything. 715 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the fucking money with your like as far 716 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 4: as sketch comedy goes next to like whitest Kids and 717 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: like what a couple of my face, like you know, 718 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 4: Jordan Peele and fucking like Chappelle show and shit, as 719 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 4: far as like independent stuff that I was coming from, 720 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 4: like my hometown, Like the gifts that you all were 721 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 4: doing were like my favorite things, especially. 722 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: Like the end of high school. 723 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 2: Man, well thanks, man, I was gonna say I was. 724 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 2: I was excited to meet you at the time because 725 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 2: you were another guy who wanted to make who wanted 726 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: to make films, and I feel like I had a 727 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: lot of dudes like that. 728 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, no, totally, I was pursuing it semi seriously 729 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 4: at the time. I've done a bunch of like weird 730 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 4: kind of crazy. 731 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: Shit in middle school. It's a movie called like None 732 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 1: with a Gun and. 733 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: Some horror movie called Silent but Deadly, and a whole 734 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 4: bunch of like goofy shit that. 735 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. People were like pretty. 736 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 4: Impressed that a fucking kid could do, even though I 737 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 4: felt like I was just fucking around. So I decided 738 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 4: to go to that magnet Art high school for it. 739 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 4: And that's when I became pretentious and thought like, oh, 740 00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 4: I could consume at cooperg and like all this shit, 741 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 4: but you know, Garden some like decent work. But I 742 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 4: don't know, I look back at who I was in 743 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 4: like high school, and even though I. 744 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: Did a bunch of fun ship, I definitely looked back 745 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: at like who I wasn't an artist back then. 746 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 4: Is just like damn, I can't believe I was so 747 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 4: high on myself because you know, I was just a kid, like. 748 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: I was doing cool things. But if you had asked me, 749 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: I would have been like, I'm the greatest. 750 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 4: But I don't know, that's a bipolars mentality whatever. 751 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean I I was too in high school. 752 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 2: I went my I think you know, my friends and 753 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 2: I we thought we were like the funniest guys, and 754 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,479 Speaker 2: you know. 755 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 4: That I would confirm that too, though not to kiss 756 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 4: your ass, but I appreciate it. 757 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 2: Or but it's not well, it's funny because the whole 758 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 2: idea of, like I guess, with art and making things 759 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 2: in general, there's a there's a there's a line you 760 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 2: have to walk, right, because I think to make good 761 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 2: stuff you have to you have to really believe in 762 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 2: yourself and really believe that what you're doing is good 763 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: enough to exist for like just to propel you to 764 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 2: make it. But then also not line of like you know, 765 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: being you know, getting getting too high on yourself. 766 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely true, But that was the thing, like I 767 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 4: had bought into all the you know, there's every celebrity 768 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 4: in their mother has a video out there that's like 769 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 4: believe in you and the. 770 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: Rest will follow type shit. And I saw all of 771 00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: those when I was like a kid. So by the 772 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: time that I did. 773 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 4: Get to, like, you know, the point where I was 774 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 4: making work where I was like recognized at least by 775 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 4: the state for it, I was like, oh, fuck it, 776 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 4: the world is my oyster. I gotta believe that I'm 777 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 4: the best there is. 778 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: Or ytta YadA. 779 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know, I came out to Chicago, 780 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 4: and then I realized a lot more like leaving hometown, 781 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 4: that it's really not all about you, which is like 782 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 4: obviously a big thing for life, but I mean it's not. 783 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: And you go out to a place that you're. 784 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 4: Unfamiliar with, you kind of like accept the fact that 785 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 4: you are a tourist in another place. You're not like 786 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 4: settled with this hometown that you fuck around with for 787 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 4: eighteen years, like I was in Baltimore, and you kind 788 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 4: of realize the things are a lot bigger than you. 789 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 4: And I've been like very i think selflessly pursuing that 790 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 4: for the last step in years. But to kind of 791 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 4: seguey to my story, and then I'm like at a crossroads. 792 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 4: I'm probably in June, gonna head back to Baltimore at 793 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 4: least temporarily, and then continue on with the next place. 794 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: I think Chicago's wraps, So why why. 795 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: Are you at a crossroads? 796 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 4: Are? 797 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: What are the two roads? I want is coming back 798 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,959 Speaker 2: to Baltimore and what's the other one? 799 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: The other one is just kind of like I don't know. 800 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 4: I've been a part of this band for like seven years, 801 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't know, it's someone else's band, 802 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 4: but I definitely am like as far as like you 803 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 4: ever seen Social Network, you know that movie, the Facebook movie? 804 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. 805 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: If there's an Edward. 806 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: Saverign like character in this is this band, then I'm 807 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 4: definitely the one that's like, sorry, my fuck you flip 808 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 4: flopster at the what's it called? Like, I got some 809 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 4: sort of like to being here because I've been around 810 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,959 Speaker 4: so long, but I don't care. It's those other kids 811 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 4: fucking bad. I've just been a part of it since. 812 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you're you're getting you're getting sucked out 813 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 2: of your. 814 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: Band a sort of I'm sucking myself in a way. 815 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 4: That's why I can't sucking myself, but I get sucked 816 00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: a little bit. 817 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 1: It's more dramatic than the fucking I don't know that 818 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: that the Zuckerberg guy though, I don't think he ever 819 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: got shot at And that's kind of the thing. 820 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 7: Man. 821 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: Chicago is a very violent place. I don't know, it's 822 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: been dealing with it for a while, but it just 823 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: kind of. 824 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 2: So, your your bandmate tried to shoot you. 825 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: Let me clarify for the record's sake, because one we're 826 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: keeping gro anonymous. We can look back. 827 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 4: At this later as a haha ha, very funny. But 828 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 4: this is a thing that happened kind of an ongoing 829 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 4: thing that I'm still going to be like, all right, 830 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 4: I'll describe in detail, but only vaguely. 831 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: All So, let's just do the day. 832 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 4: Of this thing happening, because I will say yes, but 833 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 4: let me explain the day that this happened. I was 834 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: about a couple of weeks deep into coming off my 835 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 4: last job, so I was kind of in this place 836 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 4: where it's like, you know, what's the bullshit that I need? 837 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: What do I don't need? What can I sell? What 838 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I make money off of? 839 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 4: Just so I got some groundwork that I can move 840 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 4: on top of. Besides that, just trying to make money 841 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 4: independently for a second. So one of the things that 842 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 4: I had was this weed pen that it was like 843 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 4: one hundred twenty dollars. I used to work with head 844 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 4: shop called the Other Side in the House, and I 845 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 4: gotta look like one hundred twenty dollars there. It's a 846 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 4: nice little like pen battery, and somebody offered to buy 847 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 4: it for me for like sixty dollars, So I'm like, 848 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 4: fucking cool. 849 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: I could totally use six dollars right now. 850 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 4: I don't even smoke weed like that, so well, I 851 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 4: don't smoke pens like that, so I can totally sell 852 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 4: this thing. 853 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: It's fine. 854 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 4: But the problem was my roommate was using it at 855 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 4: the time, and it was like eight o'clock and I 856 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 4: like eight in the morning, and I had to leave 857 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 4: and he was asleep, and I was just like, oh, 858 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 4: fuck it. Oh two very important point of the story too. 859 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 4: It's not just one roommate. It's well, we're talking about 860 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 4: the one guy, but he. 861 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: Is a girlfriend too, who's also another roomate. So it's 862 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: a whole cup of situation. 863 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 4: So I go and I knock in this couple's door 864 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,279 Speaker 4: and I'm like, yo, I'm sorry, but I got to 865 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 4: get that pen back because I got to sell it. 866 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 4: And I just hear like oh, And so I'm doing 867 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 4: my thing, get my things together for like twenty minutes 868 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 4: or so. I go back and nobody's there at the door, 869 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 4: so knock again. I'm like, yo, I got to head out, 870 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 4: and they're like, just let us sleep, and I'm like, yo, 871 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 4: fucking I didn't say, like why, but I'm like I 872 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 4: really need this now, please let me go and they didn't. 873 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 4: They didn't open the door, and they didn't give me 874 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 4: the thing, and I was like, fuck it, I gotta go. 875 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: So I did. 876 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 4: I left, and I didn't make the sixty dollars. I 877 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 4: made a little bit more money, but I didn't make 878 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: as much as I could have. So I go back 879 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 4: home and I'm fucking pissed, and no kids are up 880 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 4: at this point, and I'm just like, basically just like, 881 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 4: don't talk to me, like you all kind of ruined 882 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 4: that for the day. You've lost me money today, and y'all. 883 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 4: I'm already kind of on bullshit with y'all because Rent 884 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 4: and a whole bunch of other dumb ships who just 885 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: don't talk to me today. 886 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: Just give it a day. 887 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,439 Speaker 4: Maybe we can talk about it later, but today, just don't. 888 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 4: Like thirty minutes go by and I hear motherfuckers like 889 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 4: Snake saying something in their room, like. 890 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: Thoughting each other. This is what they do too. There's 891 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 1: a couple things like they definitely group together when they're like, 892 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,240 Speaker 1: all right, we're in trouble. 893 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: You're you're living in that. I'm I'm sorry if I'm 894 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 2: a bad listener for this, but so you're you're living 895 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 2: in the house with with with this this guy and 896 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 2: his girlfriends. 897 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeah, and enough kids in there too, but 898 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 4: he wasn't a home and. 899 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 2: Then and then so there's some tensions going on with 900 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 2: this this this vate pen that they didn't give you, 901 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 2: and now they're kind of conniving in one corner and 902 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 2: things are boiling up. And how did this escalate to 903 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 2: the point where you know, by the way, just I 904 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 2: just wanted to let you know, man, if you if 905 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: you feel like you shouldn't tell this story for whatever 906 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: legal reasons, it's you. 907 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 4: If there's a platform that I can tell it on, 908 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 4: it's definitely the Get Show. 909 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: I just feel like this is definitely gonna be all right. 910 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 2: I just wanted to give you that a second to 911 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 2: think about it, but go ahead. 912 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 4: No, definitely, I think that I can't tell the story. 913 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 4: This has happened like two weeks or two or three 914 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 4: weeks ago. 915 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,399 Speaker 1: Now I definitely thought about it clear enough to. 916 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 2: Think just okay, So so just so, so tell me 917 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,879 Speaker 2: if we could like go to the because I want 918 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 2: to hear more about about you and I want to 919 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: make sure we have enough time to you know, get 920 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 2: what can you can we where how did it escalate? 921 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 7: All right? 922 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 4: So basically, like after they group together, the girlfriend comes 923 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 4: out to me and she has this like wheetend it's 924 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 4: like an ozone pen. 925 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: Anybody smokes wheet tens know this like little gray disposable pen. 926 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 4: And she's like, I found this is mine and I 927 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,800 Speaker 4: found it the other day in your room completely empty. 928 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 4: What do you have to say on some shit like that? 929 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 4: And just like a million things went through my mom 930 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 4: but the very first thing that went through my mind was, 931 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 4: holy shit, you went my fucking room. Like I keep 932 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 4: my door lock. You went inside of my room like 933 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 4: I understood, Like I understood too, Like okay, you're finding 934 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 4: a thing that is like you think it's yours. I 935 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 4: get in my moavies, but you went in my room. 936 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 4: That's like just where I drew the line. And I 937 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 4: was like, you went my fucking room. 938 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 1: No way. So basically, long story short, me and her 939 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: are well. First of all, let me explain. 940 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 4: I also told her too, before she even came to 941 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 4: me about this, I was like, I fucking told you. 942 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 4: I can't don't feel like I can talk about this 943 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 4: to day. I really late that as Bessa could. I'm like, 944 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 4: are you sure you want to talk about this, and 945 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 4: she still did. So we're arguing about this fucking pen 946 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 4: for no reason, and I don't know she's going down 947 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 4: the hall She goes down the hallway. I'm on the 948 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 4: my side of the hallway, so kind of a distance 949 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 4: between each other. But at the end of the argument, 950 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 4: I realized that she was just talking in circles. 951 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 1: I was just like, whatever, So I fucking tossed the 952 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: pen at her feet. 953 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 4: I basically tossed it back down the hallway and tossed 954 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 4: it at her feet, basically in my head, being like 955 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 4: the same way that I throw a fucking dog a bone, 956 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 4: because the fucking word went through my head. There's a 957 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 4: fucking appropriate to it that I don't like. Can't be 958 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 4: one of my fucking room. Oh my god, But yeah, 959 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 4: I fucking threw this. 960 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 2: And then she goes, so, how did how did how 961 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 2: did a gun get involved? 962 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 4: That's what we're getting to the good, juicy stuff in 963 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 4: the next five seconds. 964 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: So I throw the fan at her feet. 965 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 4: She goes, did you just throw a fucking pen at me? 966 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 4: Her boyfriend's not in the room, but that's enough for 967 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 4: him to hear that and then come out. 968 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: Ah way did you just throw a pen of me? 969 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: So he comes out, he's running walking towards me. 970 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 4: No one keeps seven years, but I just see this 971 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:37,439 Speaker 4: looking at other I'm. 972 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: Like, oh, this guy's gonna beat the ship out of me. 973 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 4: And I'm just like, well, you know what, he's talking 974 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,000 Speaker 4: about it so much for seven years, I'm just gonna 975 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 4: win him have it, because honestly I'm interested. 976 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: I want to see how hard this he can hit. 977 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 4: So he comes up to me, He doesn't exactly what 978 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 4: I think, well a little bit more. 979 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: He picks me up. He slams me on his. 980 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 4: Music setup, which I'm too just like my pianos in 981 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 4: the corner. You could have broken my piano, but you 982 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: slam me on your music setup. 983 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: What the fuck? 984 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 4: And then I'm on his music setup just blow blow, blow, 985 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 4: like in the face, over and over and over again. 986 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: And he kind of stops, and I'm just like again 987 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 4: because I'm like still talking, I really still talking, like 988 00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 4: again wow wow again bow, And I'm just trying to 989 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 4: lean into it, but he's not fucking leaning into the 990 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 4: point where I'm like, dude, who can beat up like 991 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 4: so much worse than this, Like it's so so boring 992 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 4: if this is really what you've been threatening me with 993 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 4: the whole time. And so this happens, and it gets 994 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 4: to the point too where he's like finally refuses to 995 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 4: like beat the shit out of me because I just 996 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 4: keep saying again like a fucking crazy person, like I 997 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 4: don't know someone wh's saying fight club too many times, 998 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 4: but fucking man, I just he finally stops. He's like, 999 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 4: this dude must be crazy. He just keeps wanting me 1000 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 4: to punch him, and then he starts, and then I 1001 00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 4: go start going off like. 1002 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: Oh you hit Michael, bitch, you got no just. 1003 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 4: Going off in this fucking kid for like no reason. 1004 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 4: I won't shut the fuck up because, like I said 1005 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 4: to Bipolar, when provoked, man I will fucking like go off, 1006 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 4: especially person to say, but I just wouldn't. 1007 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,399 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. 1008 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 4: And the other point he was like he shut his 1009 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 4: door behind him in his room, door was shut. I 1010 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 4: was still talking shit and he comes out one off 1011 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 4: on the floor and that just shut everybody up. And 1012 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 4: then it was just like I don't know, I didn't 1013 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 4: flinch nothing, like I just had experience in Baltimore. 1014 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go XIX. 1015 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me, let me cut off, 1016 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 2: let me, let me let me Okay, so you had 1017 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 2: this this pretty wild roommate encounter that you know, I did. 1018 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 2: You were you were egging on a little bit, and 1019 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 2: you were also dealing with your own mental health problems 1020 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 2: at the same time, and it just sounds like a 1021 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 2: crazy fucking mess. So just like I guess kind of, 1022 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 2: you know, I want to make sure we get to 1023 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: this before we go like you're so you're doing better now. 1024 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,760 Speaker 2: I want to know the arc because you getting beaten 1025 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 2: up on your roommate's music studio and asking him to 1026 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 2: keep hitting you does sound like a low points and 1027 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,360 Speaker 2: so I'm happy to hear that. As we're talking in 1028 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 2: current day, you you you're feeling better, and you're you're 1029 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 2: feeling at a at a higher point than then, and 1030 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to know. 1031 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: And also checked out and you know, not to undermine 1032 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: you again, but actual like therapists and psychiatrists and like 1033 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 1: doctors and stuff, they're like, you're getting and I had 1034 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: to check too. I was like, man, how crazy am I? 1035 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: Everybody's I took a couple of weeks. Everybody says that 1036 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm chilling. So I'm here talking to gek. 1037 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, so how do you how do you feel 1038 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 2: like you got there? 1039 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 4: Well, to the point in the well, it's back up 1040 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 4: a month. This motherfucker gets a gun in general, and 1041 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 4: I guess it's a couple of months ago, but it 1042 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 4: was to one point where you know, we lived together, 1043 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 4: we've lived to get me and this person lived together 1044 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 4: for basically like seven years. It's to the point with 1045 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 4: this place where it's just like the rent is just 1046 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 4: so like on time. 1047 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 2: All hold on, I guess let me stop going quick. 1048 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about you and your personal journey because again, 1049 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 2: it felt it seems as though when you were in 1050 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 2: that encounter, you were yelling and you were you feel 1051 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 2: like you sounds like you were not in a good place. 1052 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: And as we're talking now, you feel like you are 1053 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,920 Speaker 2: in a good place. And I just want to know, 1054 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 2: you know, from then to now what you feel like 1055 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 2: is improved and how you feel like you got there? 1056 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, absolutely, man, Sorry that I was going right 1057 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 1: in the darkest. 1058 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 4: No literally, I think that the best thing that I 1059 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 4: could have done for myself, and the thing was too 1060 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 4: I gave myself like twenty four hours on it, so 1061 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 4: I know how to at least in a roommate situation, 1062 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 4: like I can stay in my room for the most 1063 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,960 Speaker 4: where I can avoid people. We can probably just even 1064 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 4: if a dramatic situation has I was basically way too 1065 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 4: dramatic for some people, but at least for me, when 1066 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 4: dramatic situations happen, for the most part, you can take 1067 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,319 Speaker 4: a back seat. The problem was I took a back 1068 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 4: seat for twenty four hours and was still pissed off 1069 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 4: to the point where I'm like, I need someone to 1070 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,919 Speaker 4: like check me for sure and make sure I'm good. 1071 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 4: So I didn't responsibly do when I'm in crisis, and 1072 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 4: I went to an inpatient that I knew they had 1073 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 4: all my information, and. 1074 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: I did a nice little seventy two hour stay just 1075 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: to talk to. 1076 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 4: Some professionals make sure that they could check off that 1077 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 4: I was okay like I thought I was. They did, 1078 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 4: and then through them too, I decided to start doing 1079 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 4: this outpatient rehabilitation center too, where I could focus more 1080 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 4: on myself and my surprise. 1081 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 2: Good, good, good, Are you are you sober right now? 1082 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: Am I? 1083 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 4: Literally just I just an hour before us getting on 1084 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 4: the phone, man smoked my last joint, or officially my 1085 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 4: last week that I have on me. This next week 1086 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 4: is going to kind of be a test to be like, 1087 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 4: can I just survive off the cigarette? 1088 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 2: What's the what's the big what's the big one? What's 1089 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 2: the big one for you? Is it pod? Is it alcohol? 1090 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 1: Is it? 1091 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 2: Oh? 1092 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: Word? 1093 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 4: The worst thing for me is just And this is 1094 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 4: where I totally like New Year's. I mean, I'm just 1095 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,319 Speaker 4: at a decent point here in Chicago where I can 1096 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 4: just hang in and hanging out with these rich kids 1097 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,080 Speaker 4: at like New Year's parties, and there's just molly and 1098 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 4: cocaine and all the other like upper shit that's regularly 1099 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 4: available and for free, and it's all like the yeah, 1100 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 4: just upper like bandmate press bullshit, and and. 1101 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 2: How how how how sober are you from from that stuff? 1102 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: Oh? 1103 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 4: Man? Yeah, I would say a couple of months now, well, 1104 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 4: actually not months. 1105 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm over jumping myself. It is February. 1106 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 4: But since a couple of days after New Years, I 1107 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,959 Speaker 4: got to a point independently where I was like, these 1108 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 4: things are definitely like I don't know, I was talking 1109 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 4: around with them when I was a teenager. I started 1110 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 4: sucking around with them again when I was twenty five, 1111 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 4: and I'm like, there's the reason I to stop when 1112 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 4: I was a teenager. 1113 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 2: So so so so lex Man, I suppose like, oh, 1114 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,440 Speaker 2: I want to know from you before we go. Uh, 1115 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that you're doing better. I'm glad 1116 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 2: to hear that I'm your you're beginning to it sounds 1117 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 2: like walk down a good path and you know you're 1118 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 2: going to a real therapist and getting off the you know, 1119 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 2: the hard stuff. Actually, what what do you hope for 1120 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 2: the future? 1121 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: Man? Man? 1122 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 4: I gotta man And this is the thing too, And 1123 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 4: I've really done some fucking cool things here in the 1124 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 4: last seven years. 1125 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: I hope to show you personally some time at. 1126 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm starting to release, at least the music side. 1127 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 4: I've been doing all types of art, but the music 1128 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 4: side of this stuff is coming throughout twenty twenty three 1129 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 4: in a pretty expansive form. But also I haven't dropped 1130 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 4: really anything since before COVID, so tons of music rolling out. 1131 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 8: I got a June or yeah, I remember or film 1132 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 8: interrupting you, but I remember I think either I saw you, 1133 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 8: or maybe our mutual friend saw you and. 1134 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 2: Or or maybe he shared with me some music and 1135 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,320 Speaker 2: I remember I heard it. It must have been high school 1136 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 2: of college of being like this, shit's fucking hard as hell. 1137 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 2: This is great. 1138 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. 1139 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 4: If I can really quick plug myself on your show, 1140 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 4: my account. 1141 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: Is on all platforms. 1142 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 2: Well listen when you're in When next time you're back 1143 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 2: in Baltimore and I'm back in Baltimore, I'm coming to 1144 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 2: the Auto Let me know if you want to come 1145 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 2: and coming to the Auto bar. Uh fucking later this 1146 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 2: year to do my GETO thing. 1147 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, isn't that in That's in April? Right? I thought. 1148 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 2: It in September. 1149 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, no wait wait Baltimore is in good You've 1150 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: got an April show in Chicago though, right. 1151 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see I'm doing one in Chicago. 1152 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1153 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: Also, I should say, unless things getting super dramatic, I 1154 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: should still be here. 1155 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 2: Don't stay in Chicago for the sole purpose of coming 1156 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,439 Speaker 2: to my live show. 1157 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll say that I am not lyle trust me, it's not. 1158 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: I love you man, but it's definitely not just go 1159 00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: to the GEK show. But I hope that I can 1160 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,160 Speaker 1: go to the GET show. 1161 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 5: It'll be great. 1162 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 1: I will definitely be like Chicago Get Show or the 1163 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: Baltimore Get Show. At least you. 1164 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: Want to good. Good of the show. Good good catching 1165 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: up with you man, hit me up on we follow 1166 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 2: each other on the computer. Man, hit me up. I'd 1167 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 2: love to talk again. All right, that's you want to say. 1168 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 4: To the I shouldn't have plugged my Instagram account because 1169 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,920 Speaker 4: now people can put this story together if they want 1170 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 4: to figure out. Oh whatever, fuck them, dude, Lyle. It 1171 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 4: was very catching up with YouTube man. 1172 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Hey, YouTube man, you take care, I take care, buddy 1173 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 2: letter Man. 1174 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 8: Good. 1175 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 2: This good. It's always good catching up with old friends. 1176 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm glad he's doing well. 1177 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1178 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Lex was a friend of mine in in high school 1179 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: and he was always doing cool creative stuff. It's cool that. Yeah, 1180 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 2: he's watching the stream the shows. You know, it's tweirt. 1181 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 2: I feel a weird uh kind of connection to a 1182 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 2: lot of folks from from from my past through this 1183 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,800 Speaker 2: thing because I get like d ms and comments or 1184 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 2: whatever from from folks I went to high school with, 1185 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 2: or you know, anything like that. And it's good. It's 1186 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,919 Speaker 2: good to keep connections to all phases of your life. 1187 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 3: There Ben goes on the line, taking your phone calls 1188 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 3: every night. 1189 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 2: There, Repin goes through on his eight who's teaching you 1190 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 2: cud in the mind of your life, but he's not 1191 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,680 Speaker 2: really an expert