00:00:02 Speaker 1: When I. 00:00:09 Speaker 2: Invited you here I thought I made myself perfectly clear When you're a guest in my home You gotta come to me empty-handed I said no gifts, your presence is presence enough And I already had too much stuff So how do you dare disobey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I Said No Gifts, I'm Pritchard Weininger I'm afraid I may be blacking out. We're just starting. Even before the episode begins, I've got health concerns. That's just an energy I like to bring into your day. And this is all– earlier this week, I had my yearly physical. My doctor could have acted more impressed. I'll say that. I don't feel like he was wowed. He was almost ignoring me. So that's a shame. And now we're seeing me black out on camera. So this is going to be an interesting episode. If I fade or collapse, I don't know. What else is going on? Almost absolutely nothing. I saw all kinds of cars on my way here. I saw big cars. I saw small cars. I saw a Toyota Matrix without brake lights. I thought that might be interesting to share. And I think that's essentially my life. I– let's see if I have any business. Well, I do have a note here. Men need to find a new personality trait outside of collecting watches. Men have got to stop collecting watches. I don't understand this at all. But it's a– every fifth man is very into getting watches. Where does that come from? What void is it filling? Is that just a lack of interest in other things? I don't understand it. But I guess I needed to bring that up. And then just, of course, Patreon. I'm here to hassle you. Patreon.com slash I said no gifts. You go there. You sign up. You join a community of dear friends. And then you enjoy bonus content. And ultimately, you support the podcast unless you want to tear the podcast down, which is also an option. You can do all kinds of things with your life. If you want to tear the podcast down, you've got the keys. Take that drive. Okay, so I haven't blacked out yet, but everything I've said felt like that's what was happening. Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. It's Tommy Doe. Tommy, welcome to I Said No Gifts. 00:03:05 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. 00:03:06 Speaker 3: It took you an hour and a half to get here. 00:03:09 Speaker 1: It took me an hour and a half to get here. Hi. I was in Venice, not to give a location. Not to name a city. Not to name a city or an address. 00:03:20 Speaker 3: Venice is a neighborhood. 00:03:21 Speaker 1: It's a state of mind, really, Venice. Venice, California. But traffic is very heavy. I'll be the first. 00:03:31 Speaker 3: Something about Los Angeles I've noticed. Yeah. 00:03:34 Speaker 1: I'll write that down. Maybe tell it later. 00:03:36 Speaker 3: Flesh that out. Explore that idea. 00:03:38 Speaker 1: More cars. 00:03:40 Speaker 3: What did you do on your drive here? Did you listen to music? Did you fight with other drivers? 00:03:44 Speaker 1: I've been really in a Carly Rae Jepsen kind of mood. I hear she's coming out with a new album. 00:03:49 Speaker 3: Double album. 00:03:50 Speaker 1: Double album, day and night. And I was revisiting Emotion. 00:03:54 Speaker 3: Of course. Kind of her. 00:03:56 Speaker 1: The big one. 00:03:57 Speaker 3: High point. 00:03:57 Speaker 1: High point, yes. 00:03:58 Speaker 3: Not that she's had a ton of low points or anything, but that feels like. 00:04:01 Speaker 1: That's the one that entered my brain. 00:04:04 Speaker 3: Kind of like leveled up in a way. 00:04:06 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Yeah. 00:04:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, emotion. So you were just blasting emotion. 00:04:11 Speaker 1: Emotion into the B-side, which I love. 00:04:13 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. 00:04:14 Speaker 1: And then I love the most recent one, The Loneliest Time. Oh, yes. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: Yes, that's the– I'm trying to think of what songs. Oh, that's got the one that sounds kind of like Daft Punk. 00:04:25 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. The album cover is cornucopia themed. It's like Thanksgiving. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm kind of picturing this. 00:04:34 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like orange burnt sienna. Yeah. 00:04:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, what an interesting way to go with that. 00:04:40 Speaker 1: Well, she was like, well, Thanksgiving. 00:04:43 Speaker 3: It happens once a year. 00:04:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's when she released it, too. 00:04:46 Speaker 3: Is that true? 00:04:47 Speaker 1: I do believe so. 00:04:48 Speaker 3: That's confusing. That's bad marketing. Right. 00:04:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a song on it called Go Find Yourself or Whatever, which I really enjoy. 00:04:58 Speaker 3: Oh, that's, yeah, that, I need to get more into that album. I do love the, again, it sounds like Daft Punk. It's about, it's like about Drugs or something. 00:05:09 Speaker 1: Sure, sure. I don't remember specifically. 00:05:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, but now I'm so confused about this. 00:05:14 Speaker 1: I can pull up my phone if we want to get there. 00:05:16 Speaker 3: Let's get there. I'd like to call it out. Carly Rae Jepsen, The Loneliest Thanksgiving. 00:05:22 Speaker 1: The Loneliest Time. 00:05:23 Speaker 3: The Loneliest Time featuring Psychedelic Switch. That's the song. And you're into... Let's see here. 00:05:31 Speaker 1: Go Find Yourself or Whatever. 00:05:33 Speaker 3: Go Find Yourself or Whatever. That's a song? 00:05:34 Speaker 1: I think it was second to last, maybe. 00:05:38 Speaker 3: Put It to Rest? 00:05:39 Speaker 1: The second to last of the album. 00:05:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not listed here. Oh, man. 00:05:44 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm making it up. 00:05:45 Speaker 3: There's also The Loveliest Time. 00:05:47 Speaker 1: Right. That was the flip side album. 00:05:49 Speaker 3: Oh, kind of the sequel, right? The sequel, yes. So maybe it was on that one. 00:05:53 Speaker 1: Maybe that's, yeah. 00:05:54 Speaker 3: And that's probably the Thanksgiving one. 00:05:57 Speaker 2: Oh, no. Okay, no. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: Now I'm wrong. I was looking at the loveliest. 00:06:01 Speaker 1: The loveliest time. 00:06:02 Speaker 3: Now, again, kind of back to confusing marketing. 00:06:06 Speaker 1: She's doing two inverse albums. 00:06:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:06:09 Speaker 1: So Lonely is Loveliest and Day and Night. Mm-hmm. 00:06:11 Speaker 3: Okay. It's interesting introducing opposites to the broader world. 00:06:18 Speaker 1: You know, she does something that I really appreciate in a pop star is she goes away. She comes, she sings her songs. Mm-hmm. She kind of does what she's like really excited about. And then she's like, you know what? Give me three, four years. I'm going to think about this. 00:06:31 Speaker 3: It feels like that's less and less because it feels like you just have to constantly be in the conversation or you vanish. Yeah. 00:06:38 Speaker 1: You have to like be driving around the Beverly Center hoping to be seed. Please dance to my song. Yeah. 00:06:45 Speaker 3: You have to have a new album every four months. 00:06:48 Speaker 2: Right. 00:06:48 Speaker 3: And the like single release thing is like eight singles before you even get to the album. Right. 00:06:54 Speaker 1: Right. 00:06:55 Speaker 3: And I don't blame anyone. 00:06:56 Speaker 1: No, I hear you. 00:06:57 Speaker 3: What a nightmare. 00:06:58 Speaker 1: People have to eat, but at the same time, give it a think. 00:07:01 Speaker 3: Just give it a couple, two years. 00:07:03 Speaker 1: Give it a beat. 00:07:04 Speaker 3: Two years. 00:07:05 Speaker 1: Who knows who you'll be? 00:07:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, you might have a new idea. You might have a double album in you. 00:07:10 Speaker 1: You know? 00:07:11 Speaker 3: The other thing I like about her is it seems like she's always doing extra credit. I feel like she's the student that does extra credit. Do you know what I mean? 00:07:20 Speaker 1: She's going away for three, four years. 00:07:22 Speaker 3: She does her full assignment and then does extra. And I think that's a nice texture for a pop star. It's not necessarily edgy or cool, but … Right. She's getting above a 4.0. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: Exactly. And she is just who she is. She's not like, I'm going to go country. Not that I don't love Joanne. I do. 00:07:42 Speaker 3: I do. I've never listened to Joanne. 00:07:44 Speaker 1: It's really fun. Okay. I do like it. But she doesn't feel the pressure to have to. 00:07:50 Speaker 3: Right. 00:07:50 Speaker 1: She's just like, these are my songs. 00:07:53 Speaker 3: What do you think? 00:07:54 Speaker 1: Hey, I hope you like them. I appreciate that. 00:07:57 Speaker 3: She is also kind of a miracle and she could have been a one hit wonder in such a huge way. 00:08:00 Speaker 1: Very true. 00:08:01 Speaker 3: I think she's kind of our new Kylie Minogue. 00:08:04 Speaker 1: Oh, that's, wow. Okay, you heard it here first. I really agree with that. I did not connect those dots. 00:08:10 Speaker 3: No, I think that kind of makes sense. 00:08:11 Speaker 1: It absolutely makes sense, 110. 00:08:14 Speaker 3: So you were just blasting Carly, driving down whatever freeway you get to this area of town. 00:08:19 Speaker 1: God, I was in Beverly Hills at one point. 00:08:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you saw most of Los Angeles. 00:08:23 Speaker 1: Yes. I saw the clown alcohol liquor store. 00:08:29 Speaker 3: Oh, from Clueless. 00:08:30 Speaker 1: From Clueless. Saw that. Yeah, took a tour. 00:08:33 Speaker 3: Wow, that's incredible. 00:08:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty great. 00:08:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't do the long drive. Like the last time I really took long drives like that was during the pandemic when it was such a dream to drive around. 00:08:41 Speaker 1: To the ocean. 00:08:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, drive out to the ocean. There was nobody on the road. 00:08:45 Speaker 1: There were dolphins. 00:08:46 Speaker 3: There were dolphins. Nature had come back for just a brief period. 00:08:50 Speaker 1: Very quick, yes. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: But you're in Venice because you're dog sitting. 00:08:54 Speaker 1: I'm dog sitting this little sweet terrier named Taco. So cute. The mayor of Venice. 00:09:02 Speaker 3: Does Taco require much care? 00:09:04 Speaker 1: No. 00:09:04 Speaker 3: Oh, that's great. 00:09:05 Speaker 1: Oh, no, not at all. Barely eats. A little concerning how little he eats. 00:09:09 Speaker 2: Right. 00:09:10 Speaker 1: Kind of like, huh. 00:09:11 Speaker 3: Don't need to call the owner. 00:09:12 Speaker 1: How are you up? How are you walking? 00:09:16 Speaker 3: Those little dogs, my dog eats so much food. But she's like 75 pounds. Those little dogs probably eat less than a cat. 00:09:23 Speaker 1: Well, the thing is that most dogs wait for food. They're like, my day revolves around food. I'm actually only going to move as far as my food will allow. Taco does not care. 00:09:35 Speaker 3: It's kind of cat-like. 00:09:36 Speaker 1: Kind of cat-like, yes. 00:09:37 Speaker 3: Can the food just always be in the dish? 00:09:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:09:40 Speaker 3: That's a miracle. 00:09:41 Speaker 1: Day to night. 00:09:41 Speaker 3: Day to night. 00:09:43 Speaker 1: To next day sometimes. Wow. And I'm like. Should we go on a walk today? What's the vibe? 00:09:48 Speaker 3: Does the dog need to be walked? 00:09:50 Speaker 1: Like taken out? Yeah. Like I walk it and it's very energetic. 00:09:54 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:09:54 Speaker 1: Very always scheming that taco. Always has a plan. Right. MLM kind of vibe. Oh, interesting. 00:10:03 Speaker 3: I'd like you to buy my leggings. 00:10:05 Speaker 1: Yes. Three steps ahead kind of vibe. Right. 00:10:08 Speaker 3: When you're staying in somebody else's house, how comfortable are you as far as just moving around, eating their food? 00:10:15 Speaker 1: Not comfortable. Give me 20 minutes. 20 minutes. 00:10:17 Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive. 00:10:18 Speaker 1: Wow. Sometimes because I live in a smaller place, it's a bigger house, and that's a little scary to me. 00:10:28 Speaker 3: Oh, right. 00:10:29 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what looky loser in the house. 00:10:32 Speaker 3: Who's lurking. 00:10:32 Speaker 1: Who's lurking. 00:10:33 Speaker 3: Right. 00:10:34 Speaker 1: Are the fences high enough? Can we keep? unwanted beings out. Yeah. 00:10:40 Speaker 3: Is your place in an apartment or a house? 00:10:42 Speaker 1: It's like a townhouse, like a little. So it's exposed. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: To the outside world, though. It's like not within a giant apartment building. 00:10:49 Speaker 1: Right. It is exposed to the outside world. You do have to go up some stairs and pass a gate. So there's a little more. Whereas a house is like door street. 00:10:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. Like I've lived in a big, huge apartment complex for a long time. And then now I'm in a house and the fear goes through the roof. 00:11:05 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the fear of car in living room. It grows exponentially. I could wake up with a Toyota in my living room. 00:11:16 Speaker 3: It's kind of amazing how often cars drive through buildings. 00:11:19 Speaker 1: Oh, we don't talk about it enough. There was one the other day. 00:11:23 Speaker 3: Where was this one? 00:11:24 Speaker 1: It was, I mean, I saw it. I guess maybe it was Fail Army. Maybe that's where I did see it. Not the news. It was Fail Army. But to the point where I was like, what's wrong? What is it? 00:11:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's, I feel like that's a news story constantly. 00:11:39 Speaker 1: Constantly. 00:11:41 Speaker 3: It feels like that takes work. If I'm going to drive through a building, it's going to be on purpose. 00:11:45 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Right, right, right. 00:11:48 Speaker 3: The idea of just like slipping off the road and suddenly you're driving to like a McDonald's. 00:11:53 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is like what happened? And we never know. 00:11:57 Speaker 3: No, we never get the answers. 00:11:59 Speaker 1: We never get the answer of what happened. And I would love to know what happened. Because I would say I don't– it's normally during the day. It's likely it's not drunk driving. 00:12:09 Speaker 3: Right. 00:12:09 Speaker 1: It seems like it's just. 00:12:11 Speaker 3: Is it just you're turning– Putting makeup on? Trying to turn on Carly Rae? 00:12:15 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: Turn it up just so then suddenly. 00:12:16 Speaker 1: My phone's– yeah, something like that. Yeah, pedal to the metal. 00:12:21 Speaker 3: You grew up in Boston. Did you drive growing up? 00:12:23 Speaker 1: I did drive growing up. I am not a fantastic driver and I don't– yeah, it's pretty tough being Asian. I'm not a good driver. I really carry a lot of weight on me. 00:12:35 Speaker 3: Well, I balance it out by also being a terrible driver. 00:12:38 Speaker 1: Okay, good. I would say I'm good for 10 minutes. 00:12:41 Speaker 3: Okay, that's impressive. 00:12:42 Speaker 1: And then I get pretty bored. 00:12:44 Speaker 3: It's a boredom issue? 00:12:45 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:12:45 Speaker 1: I mean, I drove an hour and a half here. Can you imagine? 00:12:47 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. 00:12:48 Speaker 1: But it's like, hello, this again, still, still drive, still road. 00:12:54 Speaker 3: This is the thing about driving I love is having to just focus on nothing for a while. 00:12:58 Speaker 1: Right, yes. 00:12:59 Speaker 3: Just being forced to. 00:13:01 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, I'm still– Does your brain wander? 00:13:03 Speaker 3: Yes. So that's what I like about it. 00:13:04 Speaker 1: The shower principle. Yes. 00:13:06 Speaker 3: And the shower principle never works for me. I don't know why. And I take long showers. What am I doing? 00:13:12 Speaker 1: You're busy in there. I'm busy. 00:13:15 Speaker 3: I'm listening to music a lot of the time. Yeah, I like– I rarely– but I guess I take showers in the morning when my brain isn't working anyway. 00:13:25 Speaker 1: Okay. You're not a morning person. 00:13:27 Speaker 3: No. 00:13:27 Speaker 1: Such a terrius. 00:13:29 Speaker 3: Libra. 00:13:30 Speaker 1: I knew it. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: No. 00:13:31 Speaker 1: Just talking. After a wild guess. Just talking. 00:13:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:13:35 Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it. 00:13:36 Speaker 3: Very Libra. What are you? 00:13:37 Speaker 1: I'm a Cancer. 00:13:38 Speaker 3: Cancer. 00:13:39 Speaker 1: Yeah. Very sensitive. Oh, interesting. 00:13:42 Speaker 3: I need to just kind of memorize at least one trait about Libras that I can think about when people ask me because I don't know anything about it. 00:13:49 Speaker 1: I just got into it this year. Okay. Yes. I accidentally saw a psychic. 00:13:55 Speaker 3: Accidentally how? 00:13:55 Speaker 1: At a Halloween party. 00:13:57 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:13:57 Speaker 1: I saw a psychic at a Halloween party. She told me something that was very spooky. It all came true. And then I told my friend and he was like, you should see my astrologer. Oh, boy. And I was like, what? He's been seeing the same guy for 34 years. 00:14:10 Speaker 3: Wow. 00:14:11 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:14:11 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:14:12 Speaker 1: And I was like, you have an astrologer, but not a therapist. Honey. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: I support that. 00:14:17 Speaker 1: Where's his number? Get him on the horn. Sounds like worth the money. Wait. 00:14:21 Speaker 3: So what was this horrible prophecy she had for you? 00:14:23 Speaker 1: It was a great prophecy, actually. It was like about work. 00:14:26 Speaker 3: Oh, okay. 00:14:27 Speaker 1: And she said a new offer is coming in on Thursday. You say yes by Friday. It's not going to feel good is what she said. Whoa. But take it. You're going to do it in April, and it's going to open a new door for you. 00:14:39 Speaker 3: This came true? 00:14:40 Speaker 1: It all came true. 00:14:42 Speaker 3: This is some sort of setup. 00:14:43 Speaker 1: Oh, it's Truman Show. 00:14:44 Speaker 3: She's also with the astrologer. 00:14:45 Speaker 1: She's behind that wall. 00:14:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going to empty your wallet. This is a full, long scam. Oh, yeah. 00:14:51 Speaker 1: She's in the lobby. I was saying that if I were to be a little more schemey, to infiltrate Hollywood, I would pretend to be a psychic and go to the executives and be like, I see a tall Asian man as the next star of your movie. 00:15:12 Speaker 3: I bet that would work. It kind of feels like– Most of these people are just looking for someone to say something concrete. Yes. So you show up and tell them that. They'd be totally on it. 00:15:21 Speaker 1: It would be kind of– yeah. That's a great movie idea. Clock it. 00:15:24 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:15:24 Speaker 1: There you go. 00:15:26 Speaker 3: Wait. So this psychic, was it a tarot reading? 00:15:28 Speaker 1: It wasn't a tarot reading. She was an intuitive guide. 00:15:30 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not familiar. 00:15:32 Speaker 1: Yes. And she was both an intuitive guide and a medium. So she gave you the option. 00:15:38 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:15:38 Speaker 1: But at this party, people were going into the room and actually leaving the party. 00:15:45 Speaker 3: She's ruining the party? She's bringing the mood down? 00:15:48 Speaker 1: Yeah. She was like telling people very disturbing things about like passed on relatives, etc. 00:15:53 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:15:53 Speaker 1: And my friend Zach was like, don't go in there. And I was like, well, now I got to. But I asked for the intuitive guy. 00:16:00 Speaker 3: Okay. That's probably for the best. 00:16:02 Speaker 1: That's for the best. 00:16:02 Speaker 3: I mean, I think like when you say I want to talk to a dead loved one. 00:16:06 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:16:07 Speaker 3: The mood is not always going to be that great. 00:16:09 Speaker 1: No, especially when Monster Mash is playing. 00:16:14 Speaker 3: Do that in a private ceremony. Wow. An intuitive guide. 00:16:22 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:16:23 Speaker 3: I need to get into this. I've only ever had tarot readings. Okay. No, I had my chart read. 00:16:28 Speaker 1: Oh, okay. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: A friend gave that to me as a gift. 00:16:31 Speaker 1: And how was it? 00:16:33 Speaker 3: It was fine. I don't remember anything about it. I have the voice note. It was from 2019. The one thing that I, and I've said this a million times, but he did predict, his big prediction was that rom-coms were going to have a renaissance. 00:16:46 Speaker 1: And they have. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: And they have. 00:16:48 Speaker 1: Here we are. 00:16:49 Speaker 3: I don't know why they had anything. Well, it's probably my fault that I didn't write a rom-com. 00:16:53 Speaker 1: Oh, I see. I see. But isn't it supposed to be about you? 00:16:56 Speaker 3: Well, ask this guy. Ask Angel. I see. 00:16:58 Speaker 1: A little too on the nose. Angel astrologer? I don't know. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: His real name is probably Richard or something. Yeah. 00:17:08 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:17:09 Speaker 3: I do love to go to– L.A. parties frequently have something like this. 00:17:13 Speaker 1: Yeah, something fun, gimmicky. I had a great time and now I have a new religion. Scary. 00:17:22 Speaker 3: Very scary. Well, there's something else we should probably talk about. I've been avoiding the subject. The podcast is called I Said No Gifts. I was excited to have you here today. And now I've just been dealing with some personal feelings because it looks like you've brought a gift. 00:17:39 Speaker 1: Yes. Hey, I'm so sorry. Thank you. I did, against your wishes, bring a gift. I did not have time to wrap it. I hope there isn't an address that could be seen on it. 00:17:50 Speaker 3: No, we'll keep that away. 00:17:51 Speaker 1: From the camera. And I also, I mean, obviously, try your best not to buy from Amazon Prime. The oceans are on fire. 00:17:58 Speaker 3: Okay, this is a good... That's a good sound, though. 00:18:05 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:18:08 Speaker 3: Oh, it's five. Wait, is this a card? It looks like a deck of cards, but it also looks like a branded game. 00:18:16 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:18:16 Speaker 3: A Rummy style card game called Five Crowns. 00:18:19 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:18:20 Speaker 3: And the game isn't over till the kings go wild. 00:18:23 Speaker 1: And boy, do they ever, hun. 00:18:25 Speaker 3: Wait, tell me about this. 00:18:27 Speaker 1: Okay, so I was like, should I bring a joke gift or should I bring a gift that's like I genuinely use? I discovered Five Crowns three years ago. It has changed the way my friends and I interact. 00:18:39 Speaker 3: Really? 00:18:41 Speaker 1: Like, we're in Paris, we're playing Five Crowns. We're in Barcelona, we're playing Five Crowns. Epcot, hun, Five Crowns is on the table. Oh. I am telling you, Five Crowns is the perfect game to, one, catch up with. Okay. If you haven't seen a friend in a long time. Or, like, to just keep your hands busy. It's the perfect amount of, like, thinking, but also able to, like, respond to questions, ask questions, et cetera. Unlike Bananagrams. Bananagrams is— Requires full— Everything, right? Could not be more quiet. Oh. No one's talking. 00:19:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're concentrating. 00:19:18 Speaker 1: You're concentrating on the level and you're meeting each other all the time. 00:19:21 Speaker 2: Right. 00:19:21 Speaker 1: But this is just enough, what is it, stimulation for you to, like, keep kind of the shower principle. 00:19:30 Speaker 3: Right. It's a little bit of driving, boredom. 00:19:33 Speaker 1: Keeping your hands busy. 00:19:34 Speaker 3: Right. 00:19:35 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. It's fabulous. And I would have gotten you the... The travel version, but I just didn't know how slippery those were. And like, it needs to be full size. 00:19:46 Speaker 3: This is, I want to see these. So who introduced you to this? 00:19:49 Speaker 1: My friend, Jessa. when we were on tour together and we would um yeah go around town playing this like In Chicago and we're in Minnesota, we're always playing five crowns. 00:20:00 Speaker 3: And can you explain the basic rules? Like what is it similar to any game that is also not rummy because I don't know how that works? 00:20:07 Speaker 1: Oh, yes. Okay. So basically there are five suits. 00:20:10 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:20:11 Speaker 1: And you're looking for either runs or sets. 00:20:13 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:20:13 Speaker 1: So 3-3-3 or 4-5-6. Okay. If they're 4-5-6, they have to be in the same family color suit. Or if they're three to three, they can be any of them. And then the gameplay is there is a deck of cards face down, and everyone has three the first round. The next round, everyone has four, five. It goes up like that. And you are trying to get sets or runs to get zero. Whoever gets to zero first puts their card down, and then the next person has one more chance to get the lowest amount of points or get to zero. Am I making sense? 00:20:46 Speaker 3: Does it seem like I'm learning something? 00:20:48 Speaker 1: It's a lot of information thrown at you. 00:20:50 Speaker 3: Because I'm learning nothing. 00:20:52 Speaker 1: Usually we do a test round. 00:20:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. This is the sort of thing where, I mean, we could try doing it on the podcast. Is that going to be exhausting for people? But any time a game is brought out at a party and someone starts explaining, I just black out until the game begins. 00:21:07 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:21:08 Speaker 3: And then I'm just like, well, I'll just figure it out as we go along. Well, you just figure it out. Because the rules are just, they just wash over me. 00:21:13 Speaker 1: That's a good life lesson, don't you think? 00:21:16 Speaker 3: I think it's a very good title. Yeah. 00:21:17 Speaker 1: I think, what do they say? A genius still is worse than an idiot in motion. 00:21:21 Speaker 3: Oh, I've never heard this. 00:21:23 Speaker 1: Maybe I just made that up. 00:21:24 Speaker 3: I love that. A genius still is better than an idiot. 00:21:27 Speaker 1: No, it's worse. 00:21:28 Speaker 3: Oh, it's worse. 00:21:29 Speaker 1: An idiot in motion is better. 00:21:30 Speaker 3: Oh, right. 00:21:31 Speaker 1: Than a genius still. Yeah. The words escape me. 00:21:38 Speaker 3: Do you think this is something that we could try playing right now? I think so. 00:21:41 Speaker 1: I don't know about your listeners if they're going to be intrigued. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: We'll try to chat while we're doing it. 00:21:46 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah. Do we need both? Put the thing I said to the test. 00:21:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. We'll see if this actually works or if the game sucks. Let's just find out. 00:21:54 Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness. 00:21:55 Speaker 3: Let's see here. Do we just need one? 00:21:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just need one deck here. Okay, so in the deck two, it's, so the first round, because you have three cards, threes are wild. 00:22:07 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:22:07 Speaker 1: And then there's also like jokers in here, which are wild. Here, I'll show you. Okay. So I'm going to divvy up a set of three. 00:22:14 Speaker 3: All right. 00:22:15 Speaker 1: And then here's the pile. Okay. And here's the, so it's going to look like this. I'm going to show you my cards. And it's okay to show you your cards. 00:22:22 Speaker 3: Oh, you can, okay. 00:22:23 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:22:24 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:22:24 Speaker 1: So basically what we have here is I would be done. 00:22:28 Speaker 3: You'd be done because you have a king, a joker, and a jack. 00:22:31 Speaker 1: Because I have a run. 00:22:33 Speaker 3: Oh, of stars. Jack, queen, king. Oh, okay. 00:22:37 Speaker 1: So then, say I didn't have this. Let's just pretend I didn't have that. The gameplay would be... Oh, you know what? We have to shuffle them. 00:22:47 Speaker 3: I kind of like playing a game with a totally unshuffled deck of cards. 00:22:51 Speaker 1: Everything's beautifully laid out. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: Really soothing to just get the exact cards you need. 00:22:57 Speaker 1: Okay, so basically, so say it's my turn first. 00:23:00 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:23:00 Speaker 1: I would have the option of either picking this one. 00:23:03 Speaker 3: The ten of stars. 00:23:04 Speaker 1: If this helps me. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:23:06 Speaker 1: But it doesn't, so I would want to pick this one, and I get a seven. So then I would discard one, preferably the... highest card because at the end of it, you want the lowest amount of points. 00:23:17 Speaker 3: You want the lowest amount of points. Right. 00:23:19 Speaker 1: So I would discard here. So now it's your turn. You would be able to pick either the king of diamonds or this deck right here. 00:23:27 Speaker 3: Okay. Well, let's see here. I'm going to Well, I'm going to show you. 00:23:31 Speaker 1: Yeah, just show me your cards. 00:23:32 Speaker 3: I currently have two jokers and a queen. 00:23:34 Speaker 1: So you're at zero. Oh, you're right. Yeah, so you're zero. 00:23:37 Speaker 3: Yes. This is, again, because these were given to me before it was shuffled. 00:23:41 Speaker 1: Right. So say you're zero. 00:23:43 Speaker 3: So I'm winning big. 00:23:44 Speaker 1: You're winning big. And then so I would have one more chance to get the lowest amount of points. 00:23:49 Speaker 3: But you're mad at me now because I'm winning. 00:23:51 Speaker 1: I'm so mad. Okay, and then, so six, right? So then, obviously, I have no set or run here. Right. So I would put this here, and so I would add up these points. So six plus five is 11, plus seven is 18. I have 18 points for round three. 00:24:07 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:24:07 Speaker 1: The next round, we have four cards. 00:24:09 Speaker 3: Right. 00:24:09 Speaker 1: Five, six, seven. 00:24:10 Speaker 3: And you're still trying to get it all down. 00:24:12 Speaker 1: Yes. The entire time. And then once you hit, like, six cards, you can do three and three. 00:24:16 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:24:16 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? 00:24:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes basic sense. 00:24:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah, once I actually put it into motion, I think I'm going to have a delightful time with this. 00:24:26 Speaker 1: Do you like card games? 00:24:27 Speaker 3: I love card games. I just hate that I play them so infrequently that when somebody brings the idea up, I'm like, well, everybody else has a working memory. And I'm going to have to sit here and either fake it. Or ask someone to explain every element. Even like Blackjack. I'm like, I need you to walk me through the most simple game you could possibly play. 00:24:48 Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right. 00:24:49 Speaker 3: But then once I'm into it, I'm going crazy. 00:24:51 Speaker 1: This is so innocent. 00:24:52 Speaker 3: And I love the idea. I do love a game that's just like, it fills in silence. You know, that's why conversation is able to just continue and continue and continue. 00:25:02 Speaker 1: This is what it does. 00:25:03 Speaker 3: Right. 00:25:03 Speaker 1: And when there's a lull in the conversation, it's like, whose turn is this? Oh, your turn. 00:25:07 Speaker 3: Right, exactly. 00:25:08 Speaker 1: Oh, is it my turn? Yeah. And you're like, oh, my God, can you believe she said that? Oh, it's your turn. 00:25:12 Speaker 3: It's delightful. This is the sort of thing that makes me say get me into a retirement home as soon as possible. Get me around a table with some seniors and a game and I'll have the time of my life. 00:25:24 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. 00:25:25 Speaker 3: Do you think we're going to end up in retirement homes? 00:25:27 Speaker 1: Is that– Honey, we might not make it to 2030. I know. 00:25:32 Speaker 3: I can't picture a future where any of us is old enough. To be in a retirement home. 00:25:37 Speaker 1: If we're lucky. 00:25:38 Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're lucky, they'll still exist. 00:25:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:25:42 Speaker 3: But, yeah, and I also have kids to force me into one. 00:25:46 Speaker 2: Right. 00:25:47 Speaker 3: So that's also tricky. 00:25:49 Speaker 1: Okay, pro and con. How do you feel? 00:25:51 Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like I'm going to be terrorizing my neighbors until I die. 00:25:56 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. 00:25:57 Speaker 3: I do solidly think I will be a senior who goes missing, like a silver alert situation. I just know that's my future. 00:26:03 Speaker 2: Really? 00:26:04 Speaker 1: A silver alert. Okay. Do people kidnap seniors? I guess that is what a silver alert is. 00:26:08 Speaker 3: I think it's more of a senior kidnaps themselves or goes to the grocery store and forgets where they were going and then drives off into the wilderness. 00:26:17 Speaker 1: I know so little. 00:26:18 Speaker 3: Yeah. And so it's less of a– I think– well, I mean there's the famous example this year of a senior being kidnapped, Savannah Guthrie's mother. But. 00:26:28 Speaker 1: That's right. 00:26:29 Speaker 3: I don't think that was a silver alert situation. I think silver alert's a little bit more like grandma went to the store. 00:26:35 Speaker 1: Right. 00:26:36 Speaker 3: We don't know where she is now. 00:26:37 Speaker 1: She's missing. 00:26:38 Speaker 3: She's missing. 00:26:38 Speaker 1: It's not like the same as an Amber. 00:26:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, Amber, somebody got taken. 00:26:41 Speaker 1: It's like someone got taken. 00:26:43 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:26:43 Speaker 1: But silver alert... But it's the same noise. 00:26:45 Speaker 3: It is. The same horrible noise that makes me mad at the victim. 00:26:48 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:26:49 Speaker 3: It just makes me... I'm scared that I'm resenting whatever Nissan Sentra they've been taken in. Right. And it's... They should have a soothing noise. Yeah. 00:27:01 Speaker 1: Just like a warm. Yes, yes. It's the same noise. Amber alert, a silver alert, and like a projectile missile are all the same. 00:27:08 Speaker 3: They're all the same level. 00:27:10 Speaker 1: They're all the same level. 00:27:11 Speaker 3: They should all have a different sound. 00:27:13 Speaker 1: Right. 00:27:14 Speaker 3: And I guess they're all emotionally maybe on the same– it's complicated. 00:27:20 Speaker 1: I also think that we've been so– where am I trying to get to? Yeah. 00:27:27 Speaker 3: Let me guess. 00:27:28 Speaker 1: Desensitized to this noise or, like, the alarm. I was in, I don't know, Ross earlier today, and I was walking out with a bag, bought everything or whatever, but alarm bells go off. 00:27:41 Speaker 3: Oh, boy. 00:27:42 Speaker 1: No one flinched. 00:27:43 Speaker 3: No one even looked. 00:27:45 Speaker 1: No one cared. I was like, all right, could have stole whatever I wanted. 00:27:47 Speaker 3: You should have. 00:27:48 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could have gotten those Uggs I've been looking at. 00:27:50 Speaker 3: This is good to know. I'm headed to Ross after this. Really? Well, I might as well. 00:27:54 Speaker 1: Ross for less. But yeah, so I think that maybe we should think of like maybe animal noises. That would be strange. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: Like an elephant roaring. 00:28:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. Amber alert. Duck noise. That would– my ears would be up. Yeah. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: I would be like, well, what's happening? Yeah. 00:28:11 Speaker 1: What is going on? I'm curious. Yes. 00:28:12 Speaker 3: I'm curious enough to help. 00:28:13 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:28:14 Speaker 3: But, yeah, like even fire alarms, you'll be in a crowded place and a fire alarm will go off and people might, like, turn their head. 00:28:20 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then they go back to– Like enough already. Enough with the drills. Haven't we drilled enough? 00:28:26 Speaker 3: Give me the real thing. 00:28:27 Speaker 1: Yeah. Have we drilled enough? 00:28:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. So is there a name for the missile alert or is it just national emergency? 00:28:38 Speaker 1: I think national– I think look out. Run for cover. 00:28:42 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:28:43 Speaker 1: I don't think. 00:28:44 Speaker 3: They named it. Wait, and that happened. That happened in Hawaii? Is that right? Do you remember that? There was an emergency. 00:28:50 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor? 00:28:52 Speaker 3: There's something I remember. 00:28:54 Speaker 1: From around the 40s. I think that's what it is. 00:28:57 Speaker 3: No, I feel like maybe during the pandemic or something, there was somebody set off like the nuclear warning. Oh, man. People were going nuts. 00:29:08 Speaker 1: I did not know this. This missed my desk. 00:29:10 Speaker 3: So I guess I– well, I hope I never hear the noise and I hope it's not an Amber Alert. 00:29:17 Speaker 1: It is. Now that I know Silver Alert is just a missing. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, who cares? 00:29:22 Speaker 1: It's kind of not as extreme. I guess it is extreme. Sorry, all lives matter. I'm so sorry. 00:29:28 Speaker 3: You don't care about seeing your lives. I brought you here to catch you in this. 00:29:33 Speaker 1: I knew it. 00:29:34 Speaker 3: I knew it. 00:29:35 Speaker 1: I knew you were going to bring me down a cul-de-sac, a mental cul-de-sac and just catch me. God. 00:29:40 Speaker 3: No, I just feel like silver alerts are a little bit more keep it. It feels like the family. Send it to the family. 00:29:47 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:29:47 Speaker 3: The rest of us, I don't know. 00:29:50 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't. 00:29:51 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. An old person. I don't know them. 00:29:55 Speaker 1: I don't know. And also, it's always like the make and model of the car. I like the idea of it. 00:30:00 Speaker 3: We love that and we're hoping it's working. 00:30:02 Speaker 1: We're hoping it's working. But the second red Honda goes into my ear, it goes out the other. I don't even know. 00:30:07 Speaker 3: I see eight red Hondas now. 00:30:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. You are blacking out. 00:30:12 Speaker 3: I'm in the middle of a parking lot. 00:30:14 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is getting dim. All the walls fall. 00:30:20 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm so excited about this game. Wait, so you were on tour when you learned about this? 00:30:24 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. I was on tour and we played it. I mean, you name every city, we brought it with us. Every bar, everything. 00:30:32 Speaker 3: Right. And you were touring doing? 00:30:34 Speaker 1: I used to be a figure skater. 00:30:35 Speaker 3: Right. 00:30:36 Speaker 1: With, I don't know, Disney on Ice. Okay. 00:30:39 Speaker 3: And I bet you've talked to a million people about this. 00:30:42 Speaker 1: I know, we can discuss. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: But I'm curious about it. Like, were you a character? 00:30:46 Speaker 1: Sure. Yes, I've been there. I was there for so long that, like, I played every tall male character. 00:30:51 Speaker 3: Incredible. 00:30:52 Speaker 1: There is. Yeah, Mr. Incredible. 00:30:54 Speaker 3: Gaston. 00:30:56 Speaker 1: No, never Gaston. 00:30:56 Speaker 3: Interesting. 00:30:57 Speaker 1: Yeah, there were. Okay, I say every tall. You name one. I'm not that one. 00:31:02 Speaker 3: It falls apart immediately. 00:31:03 Speaker 2: It falls apart. 00:31:06 Speaker 3: The rest of the time you were the seven dwarves. 00:31:08 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. I played Aladdin, Prince Naveen. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Who's Prince Naveen? 00:31:14 Speaker 1: He's the princess and the frog prince. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: Oh, great character. 00:31:19 Speaker 1: It's my favorite prince. 00:31:20 Speaker 3: Right. 00:31:20 Speaker 1: He has a cape. 00:31:22 Speaker 3: Oh, you were in a cape on ice skates? 00:31:24 Speaker 1: On ice. And, you know, a big note I would get is, Tommy, you have a princess. You are not alone and you don't have a prince. So please leave the cape alone. It was so tempting. And he's jazzy. 00:31:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. 00:31:40 Speaker 1: And I've played, like, Shay, the exact opposite. And he's so robotic and like not my favorite. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: Right. How did you get, obviously you knew how to figure skate, but then how does that lead to Disney on Ice? 00:31:53 Speaker 1: It's such a small community. And when you don't make the Olympic team, they kind of go to that locker room and go, okay, who here didn't make the list? Come with me. 00:32:03 Speaker 3: There's somebody standing in the parking lot waiting for you. 00:32:05 Speaker 1: Yeah, with a car full of wigs. Put these on. Snap those photos. 00:32:13 Speaker 3: That sounds like an incredible job. That sounds like a good time. I don't know. 00:32:17 Speaker 1: It's really fun. It's actually like a really fabulous way to travel. 00:32:20 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, totally. 00:32:21 Speaker 1: I've been to South Africa twice. Wow. Can you imagine? 00:32:24 Speaker 3: And you would probably stay at the places for a minute, right? 00:32:27 Speaker 1: Yes. I was in South Africa for, I think it was a month and a half. 00:32:31 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:32:31 Speaker 1: Had all my stuff stolen. 00:32:32 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:32:34 Speaker 1: Oh, wait. 00:32:34 Speaker 3: From your hotel room? 00:32:35 Speaker 1: From my hotel room. 00:32:36 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. What a nightmare. 00:32:38 Speaker 1: The first time. Little known fact. This is a little like if you have homeowner's insurance or your parents do, they cover like theft. Yeah. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: I didn't know that. 00:32:48 Speaker 1: Interesting. So you guys know. But yeah, it was kind of crazy. Wait, should I tell the story? Do we have time? 00:32:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can absolutely tell it. 00:32:56 Speaker 1: Okay. So basically, we were in apartment-style hotels. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:33:00 Speaker 1: And the keys had the room number on the keys. Okay. In the hotel. 00:33:05 Speaker 3: Right, right. 00:33:05 Speaker 1: So obviously, some people who are well-versed in travel, I'm such a space cadet. 00:33:10 Speaker 3: I am. 00:33:13 Speaker 1: I need assistance. I need people to guide me, which is a lot of what Disney on Ice is. It's like they just give you a piece of paper. There's like your Starbucks is next week. 00:33:20 Speaker 3: Right, because you're in a new place every month. 00:33:23 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do I know? But some people took that plaque off. I did not. I kept it in my coat pocket. My coat was stolen at the gay bar. 00:33:31 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:33:32 Speaker 3: Jesus. The path of theft is crazy. 00:33:36 Speaker 1: They went to the hotel. They went in. My roommates were in the room sleeping. Right. And my roommate, she has night terrors before this. 00:33:48 Speaker 3: Oh, no. 00:33:48 Speaker 1: Can you imagine them now? They're pretty– they're clinical. 00:33:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:33:52 Speaker 1: They're something to call the mayor over. 00:33:54 Speaker 3: Right. 00:33:55 Speaker 1: Yes. So then we had our own security. Disney on Ice has their own security. And they're like, we're going to try to. 00:34:02 Speaker 3: Find– This cat burglar. 00:34:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. Who could it be? We're going to look at the elevator footage. So the next morning, me and my roommates, my roommates and I looked at the elevator footage. We don't see who stole our things. We do see a coworker cheat on his wife in the elevator. That is incredible. Can you believe that? We were screaming, turn it off. Turn this off. 00:34:26 Speaker 3: What did you do with that information? 00:34:28 Speaker 1: Nothing. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: There's nothing you can do. 00:34:29 Speaker 1: I mean, my ears were bleeding. My eyes were bleeding. I was like, turn this off. Turn this off. I don't want to see this. This is none of my business at all. Obviously, they're not together anymore. Obviously, there was, you know, other problems. Yeah, of course. And we didn't have to intervene. Not our business. 00:34:44 Speaker 3: Did that coworker ever find out that you knew? 00:34:45 Speaker 1: I think eventually. Long after we had. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: That is such an incredible journey. 00:34:52 Speaker 1: No, I was shaken. I was screaming in a hotel lobby, shut it off. 00:34:56 Speaker 3: That's worth losing all of your things. 00:34:57 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My Nintendo Switch. Oh, God. No, my DS. Okay. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: Okay. Yeah. 00:35:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:35:06 Speaker 3: What were you playing on your DS? 00:35:07 Speaker 1: Super Smash? 00:35:09 Speaker 3: Oh, sure, sure. 00:35:10 Speaker 1: I'm a Super Smash girl and like a Mario Kart kind of. Do you play Super Smash? 00:35:14 Speaker 3: Who's your character in Smash? 00:35:16 Speaker 1: Do you think that who you are in Smash is who you are in life? Is that what you're asking me? 00:35:19 Speaker 3: We'll see. 00:35:20 Speaker 1: Okay, it's Kirby. 00:35:21 Speaker 3: I'm Kirby too. 00:35:23 Speaker 1: Wow, Libra. I knew it. I knew it. 00:35:26 Speaker 3: That's why. 00:35:27 Speaker 1: Libra. 00:35:27 Speaker 3: Kirby's every time. 00:35:28 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:35:29 Speaker 3: But I'm also in it. I'm not good at it. I'm more of an annoying player and Kirby's really good at being annoying. 00:35:34 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kirby's almost like cheating. 00:35:36 Speaker 3: It is a cheating character. The slamming. The flying and slamming are just two things the other characters can't even match. I'm sure somebody who's good at the game could easily defeat me. But when I'm playing just with friends or whatever, I'm Kirby. You're unstoppable. 00:35:51 Speaker 1: Unstoppable. Almost like what they call the girlfriend character. Oh, what is that? The. 00:36:02 Speaker 1: It's like just a little bit of a cheaper character. 00:36:04 Speaker 3: Right. 00:36:05 Speaker 1: So like very misogynistic, I know. But that's me. I'm the girlfriend character. And I like it there. 00:36:13 Speaker 3: Oh, and he sucks characters up. Yes. He does it all. 00:36:17 Speaker 1: He copies other characters. He's a rogue. A rogue, a ditto, you name it. 00:36:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really everything. 00:36:24 Speaker 1: He really is. 00:36:25 Speaker 3: And if I'm not in the mood to really play, I'm Jigglypuff. That's just more of setting a vibe in the game. 00:36:32 Speaker 1: Microphone out. 00:36:33 Speaker 3: I bet somebody's really good with Jigglypuff. I bet. Maybe that's how I'll dedicate my time for the next year is becoming good at using Jigglypuff. 00:36:42 Speaker 1: That would be iconic. I would love that. 00:36:45 Speaker 3: I bet there's somebody out there that's so good at that. 00:36:47 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. 00:36:48 Speaker 3: And Jigglypuff deserves it. 00:36:50 Speaker 1: She does. 00:36:51 Speaker 3: She's a great little lady. 00:36:52 Speaker 1: Hey, she's a great lady. Overlooked. What is your... Do you play Pokemon? 00:36:57 Speaker 3: I do. 00:36:57 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:36:59 Speaker 3: I mean, like I haven't played. 00:36:59 Speaker 1: Starter? 00:37:00 Speaker 3: I usually go with a water starter. 00:37:02 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:37:04 Speaker 3: Like a Squirtle. 00:37:05 Speaker 1: Actually, I think same. 00:37:07 Speaker 3: I never do a leaf or. 00:37:09 Speaker 1: Well, fire seems, well, fire is like, well, they're going to get you. 00:37:12 Speaker 3: They're going to get you. 00:37:14 Speaker 1: Leafs is like, they're going to get you. 00:37:15 Speaker 3: Water, it just feels nice. 00:37:17 Speaker 1: Yeah. Water is just like water versus leaf. It's just ineffective. 00:37:23 Speaker 3: It's completely ineffective. It's helpful. 00:37:25 Speaker 1: But it's not like they're going to get you. You know, with fire to leaf, they're going to get you. 00:37:28 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely. Every time. 00:37:30 Speaker 1: They're going to kill you. So water feels like a nice sidebar. 00:37:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Then I started playing, do you know this game, Pocopio? 00:37:37 Speaker 1: Wait, I heard about it. I haven't played yet, though. 00:37:39 Speaker 3: Incredible. 00:37:40 Speaker 1: Wait, are you a Switch 2? 00:37:41 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:37:41 Speaker 2: I see. 00:37:42 Speaker 1: You're already there. 00:37:43 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. 00:37:43 Speaker 1: You're in it. 00:37:44 Speaker 3: I'm such a loser. 00:37:45 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:37:46 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:37:46 Speaker 3: It's kind of like Animal Crossing, though. 00:37:48 Speaker 1: I see, I see. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: But with Pokemon. 00:37:49 Speaker 1: I see, I see. 00:37:50 Speaker 3: I wasted so much time playing this thing. 00:37:52 Speaker 1: No, no time wasted. But it's a game where you- That's where you're doing the shower. 00:37:57 Speaker 3: It's the sort of game where you get so into it, you're like, wait, I'm building something that means literally nothing. 00:38:05 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Okay. That's why, I mean, open worlds make me so anxious. Oh. Because it's like, I can't figure out this one. Why would I do this other one? 00:38:14 Speaker 2: Right. 00:38:15 Speaker 3: And I just get lost. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:38:16 Speaker 3: The only one of those I can do is Zelda. 00:38:18 Speaker 1: I can't do it. 00:38:19 Speaker 3: You can't even do that. 00:38:20 Speaker 1: No. I need linear. 00:38:21 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:38:21 Speaker 1: I need someone. 00:38:22 Speaker 3: Put me on a path. 00:38:23 Speaker 1: Put me on a path. Tell me to do this, this, this. Tell me to live my life. 00:38:27 Speaker 3: That, especially if you don't have a ton of time. Yeah. It's like, well, I want to. Play the game and finish it. 00:38:32 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:38:33 Speaker 3: I don't have thousands of hours. 00:38:35 Speaker 2: No. 00:38:36 Speaker 1: No, no, no. What are dreams? 00:38:39 Speaker 3: I'm pursuing so many noble things. 00:38:43 Speaker 1: Yes, I can't pursue the orc. You know in this. I can't pursue the goblin sword. Sorry. 00:38:52 Speaker 3: But the bandit was never caught. 00:38:54 Speaker 1: Never caught. Got away. 00:38:56 Speaker 3: Good for them. 00:38:56 Speaker 1: Got away with my hard drives. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: Hard drives. 00:38:59 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's nothing on them, just videos of me and Woody. 00:39:01 Speaker 3: Oh, okay. 00:39:01 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, you're gonna watch, like, me skating videos of Naveen? That's more annoying for me than anything. 00:39:08 Speaker 3: Interesting. 00:39:09 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:39:10 Speaker 3: I guess they probably just sold all the stuff. 00:39:12 Speaker 1: I guess. But, you know, it's one of those things where I have a laptop for, like, since 2012. 00:39:17 Speaker 3: Right. 00:39:17 Speaker 1: So those parts don't even exist anymore. And there's definitely black mold in them. You're sick. 00:39:22 Speaker 3: This is a new thing for me. I used to keep a laptop for, like, eight years. 00:39:25 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:39:26 Speaker 3: And now it seems like that's, like, not an option anymore. 00:39:29 Speaker 1: No. 00:39:30 Speaker 3: They're built to three years. 00:39:33 Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, yes, yes. It makes me so mad. I mean, I don't know how much this was before, but it feels like their programming and their software gets rid of yours. If you're not on the most up-to-date device. 00:39:44 Speaker 3: Yes, yes. Bland obsolescence. 00:39:46 Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Obsolescence. 00:39:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:39:49 Speaker 1: Word of the week. 00:39:51 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow. 00:39:53 Speaker 1: I feel that, though. It's so annoying. Are you going to get the Duo? 00:39:56 Speaker 3: No. 00:39:57 Speaker 2: Oh, I might. 00:39:58 Speaker 3: It's two grand. 00:39:59 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? What could you possibly be doing on that? 00:40:04 Speaker 3: The thing with the new phones that I realized as soon as I buy a new phone is like, oh, it's just like a better way to do everything I hate. Right. It's like, I don't want to be using it anyway. 00:40:14 Speaker 1: Right. 00:40:15 Speaker 3: Why am I improving. 00:40:16 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have nothing new to say. No. 00:40:21 Speaker 3: I'm immediately opening Instagram on this $ 1, 000 device. 00:40:24 Speaker 1: Right, right, right. It's just the slap. It's that. 00:40:27 Speaker 3: I do want to see it bend. I want to see the foldiness. I've never seen a folding phone like that. 00:40:31 Speaker 1: Me neither. I think they do exist. 00:40:33 Speaker 3: Yes. Other companies, I think, sell them. 00:40:36 Speaker 1: Yes. But I heard they crack so fast. 00:40:39 Speaker 3: I imagine. 00:40:40 Speaker 1: With a green line in the middle. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, it just seems against nature. Yeah. 00:40:45 Speaker 1: Yeah. Glass doesn't bend. 00:40:47 Speaker 3: Weird. But I do need to get my hands on one just to take a look. But I just don't need– I'm constantly wanting to throw my phone away. 00:40:55 Speaker 1: Right. My phone was stolen. I've had a phone saga the past three years. 00:40:59 Speaker 3: You have. 00:40:59 Speaker 1: I mean the– Do you want to talk about this? 00:41:02 Speaker 3: Stealing that's happening in your life. 00:41:03 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. Thievery. 00:41:05 Speaker 3: You're surrounded by thieves. 00:41:06 Speaker 1: I would say the phone saga– Oh, wait. Yeah, my phone case was the third time. Third? Mm-hmm. 00:41:11 Speaker 3: What was the other one? 00:41:12 Speaker 1: The other one was we were shooting– I was shooting something in West Hollywood. I had some stuff in my car, my passport. Oh. Car window smashed, everything gone. 00:41:23 Speaker 3: Uh-huh. 00:41:25 Speaker 1: I had nothing to my name at that day. And I was– I mean– I guess I should have been more aware, but I was parked next to a cafe that prints your selfie on the coffee. So I thought we were safe. 00:41:39 Speaker 3: Oh, you should have been safe. 00:41:41 Speaker 1: I thought we were good. 00:41:41 Speaker 3: It's like being parked in a garage. 00:41:43 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I was like, there are fake roses at this cafe. We're pretty great. There's neon signs. We're good. Yeah, so passport gone. That was a whole thing. And then my phone was stolen two Halloweens ago. I had just bought a new one, iPhone 15. And I was at Ackbar. 00:42:03 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:42:04 Speaker 1: And I was dressed as Lena Dunham. 00:42:06 Speaker 3: Okay, that was going to be my next question. 00:42:07 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was Lena Dunham. I had a purse. 00:42:09 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:42:11 Speaker 3: That's a great last minute. 00:42:13 Speaker 1: Yes, it was very, yeah. I was like, great. Namely, Lena Dunham from Girls, season one, episode three. 00:42:20 Speaker 2: Oh, okay. 00:42:20 Speaker 1: Dancing on my own. All adventurous women do was my costume that year. And yeah, phone snatched. 00:42:27 Speaker 3: Out of the purse. 00:42:28 Speaker 1: Out of the purse, gone instantly. 00:42:30 Speaker 3: I kind of admire snatching something out of a purse. 00:42:32 Speaker 1: Well, I called them being like, I called myself being like, you're such a loser. You need a phone? Just keep it. You need that bad? Just take it. And I was like, Obviously not well. And I was pretty upset. And then I got a new phone the next day. And I'm the one who got that voicemail because it's on the cloud. So I just heard myself yelling at myself. And that felt pretty cool. 00:42:54 Speaker 3: That's kind of eerie. It's close to like calling yourself and your self-answer. 00:42:58 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very scary. But oh, wow. 00:43:01 Speaker 3: To actually get the person who's stolen your phone on the phone, I would be terrified. 00:43:06 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:43:07 Speaker 3: I don't know. If they picked up, I would immediately hang up on them. 00:43:12 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to them. So I also have the theft protection. 00:43:16 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:43:16 Speaker 1: But this is a little tip for those listening. You have to have Find My iPhone on for the theft protection. 00:43:22 Speaker 3: To be valid. What is the theft protection? 00:43:24 Speaker 1: It's like an insurance thing. So if it does get stolen, you can pay like I think $ 30 or $ 100 or something like that. 00:43:28 Speaker 3: Oh, interesting. 00:43:29 Speaker 1: Get a new one within the warranty year or whatever that might mean. 00:43:32 Speaker 3: But they don't tell you about having to turn on Find My Phone? 00:43:36 Speaker 1: Not until I got there and they laughed at me. They were like, why would you even come in here? 00:43:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:43:41 Speaker 1: We can't prove that you didn't steal your own phone, is what they said to me. 00:43:44 Speaker 3: Interesting. 00:43:45 Speaker 1: And I went, great, customer service. 00:43:47 Speaker 3: Touché. Wow. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: Right. 00:43:50 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've had this iPhone 14, the red color. 00:43:54 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:43:54 Speaker 1: Do you know the one? 00:43:55 Speaker 3: Right, the, like, charity. 00:43:57 Speaker 1: The charity one with you two. 00:43:58 Speaker 3: Yes, teamed up with you two. 00:43:59 Speaker 1: That's right. They've teamed up with Bono. So that's been my phone. Every time my phone comes out, everyone goes, wow, what number is that? So then I— so I don't have a case on it. I don't care. 00:44:11 Speaker 3: No, why would you? Richard, I don't care. 00:44:13 Speaker 1: It's been smashed. And I actually think at some point I was like, this is kind of chic, kind of like Lindsay Lohan. 00:44:17 Speaker 3: Oh, it's very— I mean, this is like rich person behavior. 00:44:20 Speaker 2: Sure, yes. 00:44:21 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 00:44:22 Speaker 3: Where it's just like, it doesn't—I don't even think about it. 00:44:24 Speaker 1: Honey, yes. It's like when Lindsay Lohan had the black nail polish and they like— Yes. Yes, so— I was like, this is kind of cool now. And then every time I took a phone call, I would be cutting my face. I have scars from phone calls. 00:44:36 Speaker 3: I think it's like quiet luxury. It's like chaotic luxury. 00:44:40 Speaker 1: Chaotic luxury. 00:44:41 Speaker 3: I think is what you would call that. 00:44:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like a beat up Birkin. 00:44:44 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 00:44:45 Speaker 1: I don't need. 00:44:46 Speaker 3: I remember the first time I really realized that like how you could find a rich person online was how bad their photos were on Instagram. 00:44:55 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:44:56 Speaker 3: I remember like I interned with this girl who clearly had so much money and all of her photos just look purposefully bad. And I was like, oh, she's just on another level. 00:45:05 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:45:05 Speaker 3: Life is something else. 00:45:06 Speaker 1: Yeah. She doesn't care. Yeah. 00:45:08 Speaker 3: She doesn't care. 00:45:09 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:45:09 Speaker 3: Her phone's probably destroyed. 00:45:10 Speaker 1: Yes. And it's honestly so iconic to be like, you'll find me. 00:45:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to come looking for you. 00:45:19 Speaker 1: I'm not advertising for you. You'll find me no matter how blurry I make this. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited about this game. We should play another game here on the podcast. 00:45:32 Speaker 1: Please. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: I need a number between 1 and 10 from you. Ooh. 00:45:36 Speaker 1: Do I tell you? Yes. Eight. Okay. 00:45:38 Speaker 3: I have to do some light calculating. You can promote, recommend, do whatever you want. I'll be right back. Promote. 00:45:42 Speaker 1: Okay. I am coming. I am going to be in the new X-Men movie. I'm just kidding. 00:45:48 Speaker 3: I was like, I wasn't aware. You should be. Let's get you in it. Who's directing? 00:45:53 Speaker 1: No, I wish. I'm one of the non-mutants. I just live in the house. 00:45:59 Speaker 3: You're just a total drag. 00:46:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cleaning up the rubble from all their trading. I think the thing I would promote is just find me on Instagram, Tommy2underscoresdoe. T-O-M-M-Y, two underscores. I don't want to talk about the two underscores. It's not one underscore. It's not no underscore. I'm in deep, deep legal battles. They won't even verify me. 00:46:23 Speaker 2: They won't? 00:46:24 Speaker 1: No, we're in hell. They keep being like, we'll verify you for $ 14 a month. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: All right. 00:46:28 Speaker 1: And I'm like, honey, eat my bum. 00:46:31 Speaker 3: The idea of paying for verification. 00:46:34 Speaker 1: For what? 00:46:35 Speaker 3: I'm already paying with my life. 00:46:37 Speaker 1: Yes, my time. 00:46:38 Speaker 3: Yes, you're sucking everything out of me. 00:46:40 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:46:41 Speaker 3: You want my money too? 00:46:42 Speaker 1: Yeah. Can't get verified on Instagram. Can't get on Raya. 00:46:46 Speaker 3: God, what's the Raya situation? 00:46:48 Speaker 1: I don't know. Everyone I tell this to, they're like, I can recommend you. I have, I think, 15 recommendations. 00:46:57 Speaker 3: Wow. Maybe they know about the iPhone Red. 00:47:00 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:47:02 Speaker 3: It might be. It's holding you back. It's the final piece in the puzzle. 00:47:06 Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Everything will click once I get rid of it. Smooth sailing. The prophecy will come true. I ascend. 00:47:15 Speaker 3: Everybody find Tommy on Instagram. He's so unbelievably funny. We're going to play a game called Invite List. I'm going to start naming a list of celebrities. 00:47:24 Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen this. 00:47:25 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah. You tell me invited or not invited. Right. You can say why if you want or why not. Once we get to 10, that's the party. 00:47:32 Speaker 1: Great. Could I have my phone not to Google? 00:47:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. 00:47:37 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 00:47:37 Speaker 3: Because. 00:47:38 Speaker 1: I saw an episode where you were like, Laurie Grenier. And I was like, who the hell is that? 00:47:43 Speaker 3: You could also say, I'll explain. Because I also, while I'm reading this, I'm frequently like, well, I have no idea. 00:47:49 Speaker 1: Oh, I see. 00:47:49 Speaker 3: I'm so bad with celebrities, which is. 00:47:51 Speaker 1: Let's be there together. 00:47:52 Speaker 3: How did I end up? Well, whatever. I made the game and now I'm stuck with it. 00:47:56 Speaker 1: But if you're like Shark Tank Lady, I'm like, yeah, Laurie Grenier. 00:47:58 Speaker 2: Right. 00:47:58 Speaker 1: But the name Laurie Grenier sounds like Stella Lefty to me. 00:48:01 Speaker 3: Oh, my God. The fact that if I was asked to just think of any of these names off the top of my head. I can rarely name my favorite actress. 00:48:09 Speaker 1: And who would that be? Go on record. 00:48:15 Speaker 3: Laurie Metcalf, I love. Oh, great. 00:48:17 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:48:18 Speaker 3: That's a great one. That's one of my all-time favorites. You can't go wrong with Laurie Metcalf. 00:48:22 Speaker 1: You cannot. 00:48:23 Speaker 3: Okay. I'm going to start naming. Glenn Powell. 00:48:26 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:48:27 Speaker 3: Carlos Santana. 00:48:30 Speaker 1: Is that Santana? 00:48:31 Speaker 3: Yes, that is Santana. Not invited. Not invited. Steve Harvey. 00:48:38 Speaker 1: Invited. 00:48:38 Speaker 3: Why not? This is a good start. 00:48:41 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 00:48:41 Speaker 2: Steve. 00:48:43 Speaker 3: Ann Dowd. 00:48:44 Speaker 1: Oh. Wait, I'm thinking of Annie McDowell. 00:48:50 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a different. Ann Dowd is, she's a great character actor. I think she's most famous. What have I seen her in that I've loved? I know, I'm pretty sure she's in the, obviously you're not inviting her. 00:49:04 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:49:04 Speaker 3: We love Ann Dowd. 00:49:05 Speaker 1: We love you, Endowed. 00:49:06 Speaker 3: I think she might be in the leftovers. Whatever. 00:49:09 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is. 00:49:09 Speaker 3: She's fantastic. 00:49:10 Speaker 1: I saw episode one. Was she in that? 00:49:12 Speaker 3: No. 00:49:12 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:49:13 Speaker 3: You got to watch the whole series. 00:49:14 Speaker 1: It's so good. Yeah, I do. 00:49:15 Speaker 2: I do. 00:49:16 Speaker 3: You'll be so happy you watched it. Okay, Fran Drescher. 00:49:18 Speaker 1: Oh. Oh, Invited. Yeah. 00:49:23 Speaker 3: Steve Harvey and Fran Drescher. Jason Momoa. 00:49:26 Speaker 1: Not Invited. 00:49:28 Speaker 3: Francis McDormand. 00:49:31 Speaker 1: Invited. 00:49:32 Speaker 3: Shaggy 2 Dope. 00:49:33 Speaker 1: From Shaggy? 00:49:34 Speaker 3: From ICP. 00:49:35 Speaker 1: Not Invited. 00:49:38 Speaker 3: Lester Holt. 00:49:40 Speaker 1: Wait, Lester Holtz? Who is that? 00:49:42 Speaker 3: News anchor. 00:49:43 Speaker 1: Not invited. I don't know who that is. 00:49:45 Speaker 3: Jude Law. 00:49:46 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:49:47 Speaker 3: Geena Davis. 00:49:49 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:49:50 Speaker 3: Little Sims. 00:49:52 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:49:52 Speaker 3: Oh, great rapper. Margot Martindale. 00:49:56 Speaker 1: Not invited. I don't know who he's from. 00:49:57 Speaker 3: Margot Martindale is fantastic. 00:49:58 Speaker 1: Are you surprised I work at Hollywood? 00:50:04 Speaker 3: You're going to be run out of town after this. I know. 00:50:06 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. 00:50:07 Speaker 3: Margo Martindale is going to get you blacklisted. No, please. 00:50:11 Speaker 1: My parents are immigrants. This is why. I don't know a lot. 00:50:14 Speaker 3: Well, then what's my excuse? Oh, no. 00:50:17 Speaker 1: You're a Libra. 00:50:18 Speaker 3: I'm a Libra. Right, right. And what was the other thing that I pick a water Pokemon? Was that the other thing? 00:50:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a Squirtle. Squirtle, Libra, possibly Jigglypuff. 00:50:29 Speaker 3: Jigglypuff rising. Maxine Waters. Oh, yeah. 00:50:37 Speaker 1: I don't want to do her the disservice, so not invited. 00:50:40 Speaker 3: Kaya Gerber. 00:50:42 Speaker 1: Oh, not invited. 00:50:43 Speaker 3: Billy Bob Thornton. 00:50:45 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:50:46 Speaker 3: Robbie Williams. Do you know who that is? No. He's the British pop star who recently had kind of a biopic movie made about him, but as a monkey. 00:50:59 Speaker 1: Okay, not invited. Stay away. 00:51:03 Speaker 3: People apparently loved that movie, by the way. I haven't seen it, but they went crazy for this thing. 00:51:06 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:51:07 Speaker 3: Rosalia. 00:51:07 Speaker 1: Oh, Invited. 00:51:09 Speaker 3: I love her last album, especially. 00:51:11 Speaker 1: It was fabulous, but I'm just... The thing is, I'm kind of going to... I'm a little embarrassed to be around Rosalia. 00:51:16 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Oh, she's so cool. 00:51:18 Speaker 1: She's just cool. 00:51:19 Speaker 3: So worldly. 00:51:20 Speaker 1: Yes, talented, worldly heart. 00:51:21 Speaker 3: The most sophisticated. 00:51:22 Speaker 1: Yeah. But Invited. Okay, yeah. If she comes. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: You can't say no to inviting her. 00:51:26 Speaker 1: No, I'm going to invite... I just don't want to waste an invitation because I know she'll say no to me. 00:51:31 Speaker 3: Have a little self-confidence. 00:51:32 Speaker 1: Can't even get on Vaya. 00:51:37 Speaker 3: Hassan Piker. 00:51:38 Speaker 1: Not invited. 00:51:39 Speaker 3: Gwendolyn Christie. 00:51:40 Speaker 1: I don't know. Not invited. 00:51:41 Speaker 3: She's kind of the lady in Game of Thrones, tall lady. Psy. 00:51:50 Speaker 1: Invited. That's kooky. 00:51:52 Speaker 3: Get Psy there. 00:51:52 Speaker 1: Psy with Steve Harvey? 00:51:54 Speaker 2: Hun. 00:51:55 Speaker 3: What a party. 00:51:55 Speaker 1: What a party. 00:51:58 Speaker 3: Imogen Heap. 00:51:59 Speaker 1: Oh, she's very cool. Yeah, invited. 00:52:04 Speaker 3: Wesley Snipes. 00:52:05 Speaker 1: Not invited. Not invited. 00:52:06 Speaker 3: Angelina Jolie. 00:52:08 Speaker 1: Invited. 00:52:09 Speaker 3: Pam Grier. 00:52:11 Speaker 1: Oh. Wait, who's Pam Grier again? 00:52:13 Speaker 3: She's one of the coolest of the cool. She's, I mean, an actor who's been around for years. She was in a lot of blaxploitation movies. Then she's in Jackie Brown, which is one of my top favorites. Conan O'Brien. Invited. I was like ready to explain who that was to you. 00:52:28 Speaker 1: And that is nine. We're at nine. Guy Fieri. 00:52:31 Speaker 3: Guy Fieri. 00:52:35 Speaker 1: Oh, God. 00:52:36 Speaker 2: Invited. 00:52:37 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey needs someone to talk to. He needs someone to discuss. 00:52:40 Speaker 3: He's going to be so bored otherwise. 00:52:43 Speaker 1: Guy Fieri with Rosalia. She's going to be mad. 00:52:47 Speaker 3: Steve Harvey and Imogen Heap. 00:52:49 Speaker 1: She's going to ask for reimbursement for the Uber. She's going to be mad. 00:52:53 Speaker 3: She's going to burn your house. 00:52:54 Speaker 1: She's going to burn. 00:52:57 Speaker 3: Oh, God. 00:52:57 Speaker 1: She destroys that bathroom. She leaves. She's like, that's quite enough. 00:53:02 Speaker 3: Beautifully played. Absolutely beautiful. Okay, we're going to also play Gift or a Curse. This is a game where I name three things and you tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. And then I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. 00:53:14 Speaker 1: You name three things. This is the card. I'm blacking out. 00:53:19 Speaker 3: One at a time, I'll name things. 00:53:21 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:53:21 Speaker 3: You tell me if they're a gift or a curse and why. Okay. And I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. Oh, sure. Because there are correct answers. 00:53:26 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 00:53:27 Speaker 3: All right, these are all from our Patreon listeners today. This first one is from someone named We're praying this is a screen name, Mega John X. 00:53:36 Speaker 1: I'm not praying that. That's exciting. 00:53:39 Speaker 3: He was baptized Mega John X. Gift or a curse, driving your partner's car. Oh. 00:53:47 Speaker 1: It depends on your partner, but I guess a gift. It's nice that they let you drive their car. 00:53:54 Speaker 3: Shows a little trust. 00:53:55 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:53:56 Speaker 3: Wrong. 00:53:57 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:53:58 Speaker 2: Curse. 00:53:59 Speaker 1: Because they want things– the seat has to be a certain way. 00:54:01 Speaker 3: There's always going to be a seat conversation once they're driving again. 00:54:05 Speaker 1: Right. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: It feels uncanny. There's something about it where you're like I'm always– even when you're in your own car in like the back seat, it feels strange. 00:54:14 Speaker 1: Right, right. 00:54:15 Speaker 3: It makes me feel like a ghost. I don't like it. It's not for me. 00:54:18 Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, it's kind of like looking at someone's FYP. 00:54:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 00:54:22 Speaker 1: Like, whoa, this is your brain. This is what you like. 00:54:25 Speaker 3: And the stakes couldn't be higher. 00:54:26 Speaker 1: They're so high. 00:54:28 Speaker 3: This next one is from a listener named Rick. Gift or a curse, eating a meal while someone seated with you eats nothing. 00:54:35 Speaker 1: Oh, curse. 00:54:36 Speaker 3: Why? 00:54:37 Speaker 1: Well, because I feel like I have to hurry up. I feel like the timing is off. The rhythm of the table is off. I feel like the storytelling is off. Now it's when I'm eating, you're telling stories. Oh, I haven't eaten. Well, I've been talking the whole time. Oh, I haven't, you know, all that jazz. Wrong. Oh my gosh. 00:54:59 Speaker 3: This is a gift. You're in the driver's seat in this situation. Where do you learn this in school? You're powerful. You're really in charge. 00:55:07 Speaker 1: I see. 00:55:08 Speaker 3: This person is your prisoner until you're done eating. Right. 00:55:10 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about community. The community of the table. But it's a power thing. 00:55:19 Speaker 3: It's a power thing. On the opposite side, though, if I'm not eating anything and the other person is eating, I'm all over the place mentally. 00:55:28 Speaker 1: Well, I would say it's like you're not eating by choice, right? Like what other factors are in here? 00:55:33 Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm just saying– I've already eaten. Yeah. If I go to dinner and– Well, I don't know. It gets complicated. But if you don't order, there's always a quiet resentment, I think. 00:55:45 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:55:45 Speaker 3: It's like, well, why are we both here? 00:55:47 Speaker 1: Right. I just get truffle fries. 00:55:49 Speaker 3: Something. 00:55:52 Speaker 1: My go-to. 00:55:52 Speaker 3: You don't like it? Get those off the menu. 00:55:54 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I love them. 00:55:57 Speaker 3: What were you doing pre-2008? 00:55:59 Speaker 1: Nothing. Arms crossed. Waiting for the magic of truffle fries. Truffle Parmesan fries. 00:56:07 Speaker 3: Parmesan I'm on board with. Okay. Yeah. 00:56:09 Speaker 1: I love truffle oil. I love it. 00:56:11 Speaker 3: Did I go too far? 00:56:12 Speaker 1: No. 00:56:13 Speaker 3: Okay, you've gotten two wrong so far. I'm in the red. And the listener's rooting against you at this point. 00:56:18 Speaker 1: Sorry, Patreon. 00:56:19 Speaker 3: This is from a listener named Matthew. Gift or curse the blue water in a toilet bowl after putting a cleaning tablet in the toilet tank. 00:56:27 Speaker 1: A gift. 00:56:28 Speaker 2: Why? 00:56:28 Speaker 1: Because it's just a little wink that it is clean. What? 00:56:32 Speaker 3: No. You've lost the game completely. I hate this. It looks cheap. It turns every bathroom into like a truck stop restroom. Also, there's one in my toilet right now. And I don't know if my boyfriend or the cleaner put it in there. But the dog, if the dog gets anywhere near the bathroom, I freak out. 00:56:53 Speaker 2: I see. 00:56:54 Speaker 3: Because I don't want her drinking the poison. 00:56:56 Speaker 1: Yes. See, I see it. I'm delighted. 00:56:59 Speaker 3: They need to work on the color. The color is tacky. 00:57:03 Speaker 1: Are there pink ones? I think that's more tacky. 00:57:07 Speaker 3: That's way tackier. 00:57:08 Speaker 1: I think blue is. 00:57:09 Speaker 3: Why not like a nice aquamarine? 00:57:11 Speaker 1: Oh, okay. 00:57:11 Speaker 3: Like a Baja Blast color. 00:57:12 Speaker 1: I didn't know that was the option. I'm kind of just take what you're given. 00:57:15 Speaker 3: I think Mountain Dew Baja Blast should team up with the toilet tablets. 00:57:19 Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot here. 00:57:19 Speaker 3: Because that's a beautiful color. 00:57:21 Speaker 1: I think, yeah. 00:57:22 Speaker 3: Serene. 00:57:22 Speaker 1: It's a missed collaboration. 00:57:24 Speaker 3: Yes, but maybe a future collaboration. 00:57:26 Speaker 1: Dew X Clorox. 00:57:30 Speaker 3: Well, you completely lost the game. 00:57:31 Speaker 2: Damn. 00:57:32 Speaker 3: And we hate to see, you know, somebody fail like that, fall on their face. 00:57:36 Speaker 2: I know. 00:57:37 Speaker 3: Especially towards the end of the podcast, but that's fine. Well, will you help me answer a listener question? 00:57:44 Speaker 1: Please. 00:57:44 Speaker 3: People are writing into, I said, nogifts at gmail.com. I don't know why I sang that. My apologies to everybody. Does anyone like my voice? Anyone looking for a lead singer? 00:57:58 Speaker 1: The Gmail musical? 00:58:01 Speaker 3: But they're writing into that email address and begging for answers. Dear Bridger and lucky guest, my husband and daughter have the same birthday and I always stress over getting both of them something and not breaking the bank as Christmas and my other child's birthday are within the next few months. My daughter will be turning 12 and loves music, cats, and the color purple. I don't know if that's the musical, the TV movie, the movie, or the book, or the color. But We'll continue. Oh, and the Roblox online game. My husband will be turning 35. He's a paramedic and also has his own handyman business on the side. He loves being outdoors, hunting, and fishing. I need your help to assist me on what I can do or get for both of these important people in my life without spending too much money. I appreciate all the ideas you can give. Okay. Thank you for your help, and that's from Jess in Iowa. 00:58:58 Speaker 1: So... Oh, Jess. 00:58:59 Speaker 3: Husband and daughter share a birthday. 00:59:01 Speaker 1: They share a birthday. That's portal. There's a lot of birthdays. 365 and they're on the same day yeah. 00:59:07 Speaker 3: Something wow spooky spooky how did that work out that's something's up something's very wrong in this family I'm telling you my new religion keeps standing correct keeps getting proven right. 00:59:22 Speaker 1: I would say spend it on an experience together. Maybe a trampoline park. 00:59:31 Speaker 3: Oh, father-daughter at the trampoline. 00:59:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, Jess. 00:59:42 Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting gift. I see. And that would also make the other child jealous. Right. Which adds an interesting dynamic to the family. 00:59:58 Speaker 1: Maybe. We're trying to create divide within the family. 01:00:02 Speaker 3: And you can kind of corner the child who's at home and kind of poison them against daddy. 01:00:08 Speaker 1: Right. Yes. 01:00:10 Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. 01:00:11 Speaker 1: As a survivor. Wow. 01:00:14 Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately, I think the problem is they both have, there are two people in this woman's life that have the same birthday. 01:00:19 Speaker 1: Or camping. 01:00:20 Speaker 3: Well, just pick one. Get rid of one of these people. 01:00:24 Speaker 1: Right. Yes, yes, yes. Vote one out. Vote one out of the house. 01:00:28 Speaker 3: You already have another child, so maybe the daughter goes up for adoption. 01:00:31 Speaker 1: Sure, sure. 01:00:32 Speaker 3: You've probably had her for a while. You're probably getting tired. Yes. You know, the Roblox has got to be driving you insane. Probably draining your wallet. 01:00:40 Speaker 1: Right. 01:00:41 Speaker 3: Roblox. What is it? It's gambling for kids? 01:00:45 Speaker 1: I think it's similar to your... Isn't it not Animal Crossing? 01:00:49 Speaker 3: But I feel like there's an element where it's just like, we need more money from you all the time. 01:00:53 Speaker 1: Oh, you have to pay constantly to be in it. 01:00:55 Speaker 3: I think because it's online. There's got to be some element. 01:00:58 Speaker 1: Oh, a membership. I see, I see. 01:01:00 Speaker 3: Right. It seems dangerous to me. 01:01:02 Speaker 1: It is dangerous to be online like that as a kid. 01:01:04 Speaker 3: Yes. 01:01:05 Speaker 1: Wait, how old are these children, did you say? 01:01:07 Speaker 3: Turning 12. 01:01:08 Speaker 1: Oh, to be, whoa. 01:01:10 Speaker 3: I can't imagine. No. No, no, no. 01:01:12 Speaker 1: No, scary place. That's the new mall. 01:01:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is the new mall. 01:01:15 Speaker 1: Look out. I hate that. 01:01:20 Speaker 3: Okay, trampoline park, I think. Well, why not send them on a hunting trip? Buy the 12-year-old a gun. 01:01:26 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:01:28 Speaker 3: Buy the 12-year-old a handgun to go hunting with. Do people hunt with handguns? Is that a thing that happens? 01:01:35 Speaker 1: I do not know. 01:01:36 Speaker 3: That doesn't seem right. 01:01:37 Speaker 1: No, I think it's rightful. 01:01:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you have to have like a law. Like you can't hunt like this. This is something you're walking down a hallway with. It's Resident Evil. 01:01:49 Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, no, I think it's not. I don't think a handgun is powerful enough to kill a deer. 01:01:54 Speaker 3: Oh, that can't be true. 01:01:58 Speaker 1: Listeners, that's my guess. 01:02:00 Speaker 3: Maybe it's just too easy. 01:02:01 Speaker 1: I've been watching the series online where this man shoots these like items, random items through doors to see if it gets to the dummy in the end. 01:02:10 Speaker 3: Oh, interesting. 01:02:11 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like it's only the rifle that works. Oh. 01:02:15 Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess I don't know that much about guns. 01:02:18 Speaker 1: I'm in a weird space online, so I– Yeah, how did you get there? No, it's being forced upon me and I'm not resisting. 01:02:26 Speaker 3: That path is going to really branch out in bad ways. We've got to keep an eye on you. 01:02:32 Speaker 1: Can we please send someone? 01:02:34 Speaker 3: We're at the beginning of your radicalization. Yes. Okay, so we're buying the 12-year-old a gun and sending them to a trampoline park. 01:02:42 Speaker 1: I'd say that's good. 01:02:42 Speaker 3: I think that's perfectly nice. And then the father can... We get sued. 01:02:47 Speaker 1: What? 01:02:51 Speaker 3: These two things, let's just be very clear. Let's leave the gun in the woods. 01:02:55 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:02:56 Speaker 3: Take the handgun to find some innocent animal somewhere. Yes. And then go trampolining with daddy. 01:03:03 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:03:03 Speaker 3: While mom poisons your sibling. Sure. 01:03:06 Speaker 1: Yes. I thought we were veering away from the lawsuit, but the poison just came in last minute. 01:03:15 Speaker 3: But Jess did say she appreciates. All of the ideas. 01:03:18 Speaker 1: Really great. 01:03:18 Speaker 3: We've done the game before. Yeah. You can't complain. 01:03:20 Speaker 1: You can't complain. 01:03:21 Speaker 3: We answered the question perfectly. You lost the game. I did. 01:03:25 Speaker 1: Oh, my God. 01:03:27 Speaker 3: But you did bring this beautiful new game into my life, and I'm excited to... Maybe I'll invite some friends over and spring this on them. 01:03:34 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it. I think it's... It really changed the way I interact with my friends. 01:03:39 Speaker 3: I like this. I reveal to you this is. 01:03:41 Speaker 1: How I kept them. They were all leaving me. 01:03:43 Speaker 3: I'm like, wait, I have a great game. 01:03:47 Speaker 1: Wait a second, you guys. 01:03:48 Speaker 3: They're going to be delighted. 01:03:49 Speaker 1: And now they're here. 01:03:52 Speaker 3: Well, I'm so glad you could be here. 01:03:53 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. 01:03:55 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. Listener, the podcast is over. And I just kind of came to a real halt. I feel like maybe it always comes to a halt like that. But it's, again, I'm blacking out. And I'm back in the parking lot, and I'm panicking, and I'm sweating, and people are worried. So do what you need to do. I love you. Goodbye. I Said No Gifts is an Exactly Right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker Patrick Kottner. You must follow the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? 01:04:46 Speaker 2: When I invited you here I thought I made myself perfectly clear When you're a guest in my home You gotta come to me empty-handed I said no gifts, your presence is presence enough And I already had too much stuff So how do you dare disobey me?