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Speaker 3: Let's get you all jacked up for Yeah, I like

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Speaker 3: this song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're gonna like this thief all right,

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Speaker 2: So Brady Quinn came up with an idea. Okay, and

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of this because this war you just

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Speaker 2: cut through all the bs, all the crap that coaches

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Speaker 2: tell you in the NFL. So it's a little something

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Speaker 2: called coach speak. Oh okay, to where Ryan Berschinger, our

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Speaker 2: throughout the early portion of this week talking about their teams.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if we have any sort of

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Speaker 2: underlying music we can throw in. It's kind of add

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Speaker 2: a little spice to this.

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Speaker 3: All right, God, that'll work.

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Speaker 4: That isn't too loud. You'll still be able to hear

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Speaker 3: So I think we'll be fine.

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Speaker 2: So, Bursch, you've got a you've got coaches in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You've got comments they've made postgame or other during the

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Speaker 2: early portion of this week or after Sunday's performances, and

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Speaker 2: you're going to rattle them off off and we're going

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Speaker 2: to try and decipher what they're actually saying as opposed

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Speaker 3: Oh I love this, that's correct, that's right now.

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Speaker 5: Now, some of these statements might be a little bit

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Speaker 5: will be up to you, guys to to better translate

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Speaker 5: what these coaches are saying.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be so fun.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's start off with some sound from yesterday from Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: First off, let's start with Aaron Glenn. Of course, the

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Speaker 5: Jets just traded away a handful of guys and it's

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Speaker 5: A reporter asked him about how fans should feel about

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Speaker 5: the team despite their one and seven start. This this

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Speaker 5: the way that that Aaron interjects and and his his answer.

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Speaker 4: Here we go the fans who were, you know, frustrated

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Speaker 6: Ticket prices go up, and they saw you with their

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Speaker 7: You seen nothing different that I've been saying. Listen, I

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Speaker 7: but I will tell you this, our guys are working.

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Speaker 4: We're going to continue to work.

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Speaker 7: And again, I'm gonna stand by that statement. I want

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Speaker 7: So don't let go of the rope. You've heard me

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Speaker 3: Okay, Uh yeah, we.

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Speaker 8: Stak. That's that's That's as simple as it can be.

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Speaker 8: They're not a good football team right now, but you know,

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Speaker 8: But they stink, that's essentially what he's saying. And you

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Speaker 8: You know, they're not gonna all be winning seasons. They're

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Speaker 4: My interpretation was our fans can't be proud of this

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Speaker 4: And for what it's worth, and now, I'm just giving

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Speaker 3: That's that's my interpretive. We stank.

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Speaker 2: I think Aaron Glenn is saying I've made a terrible mistake.

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Speaker 2: I was waiting for my opportunity. I followed my heart

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Speaker 2: and out my head. I was a former New York jet.

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Speaker 2: I thought I could be the guy to fix this place,

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Speaker 2: only to find out we're as bad as everybody says

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Speaker 2: we are and it's not getting better anytime soon. And

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Speaker 2: I'm shocked we've actually won a Gaine.

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Speaker 3: You won that route and then you won that round.

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Speaker 2: Serious, there's no there's there's no way that Aaron Glenn,

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Speaker 4: Would be like, this was a terrible mistake.

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Speaker 3: I've made a horrible mistake.

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Speaker 4: So when he goes home, he was telling his wife

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Speaker 3: Honey, this is this is way worse than I thought

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Speaker 4: Hey, man, Because we've all had those moments where you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, yeah, that's that's that's.

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Speaker 4: My inter I made a terrible mistake. A couple of.

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Speaker 3: Burs, yeah, next one up here, Mike Brabel.

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Speaker 5: Mike Brabel was asked about why the Patriots didn't didn't

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Speaker 9: Deals are like being pregnant. You either are or you aren't.

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Speaker 9: There's no like. It's either a deal or it's not.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know how close you can be. I

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Speaker 3: Do Lavarn, what are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like somebody gets impregnated while somebody else

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Speaker 4: does the impregnating and if that doesn't take place between

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Speaker 4: then we'll get a deal done. But you can't be

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Speaker 4: sitting there playing around with it. I think he can't.

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Speaker 4: He shot from the hip. That wasn't cap I think

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Speaker 4: he wanted to possibly get some deals done, but maybe

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Speaker 4: it just didn't make sense in terms of what the

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Speaker 3: Brady, what do you thinking?

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Speaker 8: I think he was saying, look in the future, if

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Speaker 8: you want to do a deal, give us a damn call,

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Speaker 8: But otherwise kickrocks like I'm not I'm not playing around

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Speaker 8: with all this, all right. You either are or you

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Speaker 8: aren't in the market to a trade. We're not going

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Speaker 8: to waste our time with this. BS back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Jonas.

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Speaker 2: I think Mike Vrabel was just saying, look, man, I'm

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Speaker 2: happy that our owners out of the massage parlor. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's it like that. That's my priority here. I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to win games, all right. I can't worry about make

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Speaker 2: and I've got all these other things that could pop

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Speaker 3: I know what a trade looks like.

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Speaker 4: I've been to Asia's of Orchid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he or Asia. By the way, Ages of Orchid

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Speaker 3: is actually a better name. You want to see what

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Speaker 3: trade looks like. Follow me, third room on the left.

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Speaker 4: I'll trade you that third room on the left for

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Speaker 4: that first one on the right.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's let's go. Let's move on to the

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Speaker 5: I think that the first couple here is just to

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Speaker 5: mind going in terms of translating here, because this next

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Speaker 5: order to translate the coach speak here because it's Mike McDaniel.

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Speaker 5: Oh oh, so here is Mike McDaniel. Of course, the

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Speaker 5: Dolphins are facing the Bills this this Sunday, and this

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Speaker 10: They've beaten us because they've scored more points and done

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Speaker 5: Okay, I do you want that to keep going? We

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Speaker 5: could keep going. There's there's a good another minute to

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Speaker 5: that answer. What is Mike McDaniel, Yes, what is he

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Speaker 4: I think what he's really what he's really saying is

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Speaker 4: is that right now I'm on under the influence and

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Speaker 4: that's better. It's better that I do this interview while

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Speaker 4: I'm fried, so that I could give you guys some

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Speaker 4: very very educational and very very detailed reasons as to

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Speaker 4: why the Bills beat us so bad. And I guess

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Speaker 4: while I'm feeling as nice as I am and as

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Speaker 4: fried as I am, I would offer that well, the

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Speaker 4: obvious reasons are ABC as well as one, two, three

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Speaker 4: is the reasons why we can't beat the Bills because

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Speaker 4: that up? I'm sorry, but this is the alphabet and

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Speaker 4: the numbers game, and that's why Buffalo is beating us,

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Speaker 3: There you go, okay, perfect, perfect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brady, Brady, I'll give you a shot.

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Speaker 3: What is what is Mike McDaniel really saying here?

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Speaker 8: Where am I am?

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Speaker 3: All right? Jonas? What's what's Mike McDaniel?

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Speaker 3: I get, I.

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Speaker 8: Get, get get.

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Speaker 3: Your memories, I.

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Speaker 11: Get, I get.

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Speaker 3: Ha woite set us? They're better for longer than us.

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Speaker 4: That's It's simple, what I mean, you know, if you

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Speaker 5: All right, So moving on here now this this one.

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Speaker 6: They did a nice job. They stimulated a snap. The

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Speaker 3: Brady, what's Raheem Morris really saying?

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Speaker 8: Here? They cheated? They're cheaters. They cheated and always have been,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, LeVar, what what did?

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Speaker 4: What's Raheem really saying? This one is simple a Mike,

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Speaker 3: Man, Look, damn.

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Speaker 4: It shouldn't. It shouldn't. Transit's transition over it to the

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Speaker 5: Piece, Jonas, What's what's Raheem really saying?

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Speaker 2: I thought we'd be way better than this, and it

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Speaker 3: It's got to be something else.

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Speaker 2: They're doing something to kind of cheat us and screw

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Speaker 2: I think they're cheating. It's got to be that because

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Speaker 2: I was hired over Bill Belichick, who's the greatest coach

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Speaker 3: They chose me over him.

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Speaker 2: Clearly, this is not a me problem, it's a them problem,

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Speaker 4: Oh ud Man, I'm just telling you man, he was

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Speaker 4: telling them. Listen, you remember this, You remember hearing this

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Speaker 4: this this, uh this audio? You remember that audio. Rah,

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Speaker 4: I'm just telling y'all, man, stay away, it's shady. I

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Speaker 4: let's clapping taking place.

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Speaker 3: Here is my clapping, dag.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's look at some post games sound from week nine.

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Speaker 5: Let's try something that's just a super generic cut. This

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Speaker 12: Gotta play better offensively. We're better than you know, ten points,

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Speaker 3: All right, LeVar.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like that's pretty candid man Like it's

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Speaker 4: They are better than ten points. Dak is actually having

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Speaker 4: That's I take this one as this This is pretty literal.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Brady, what's the shot Nimer saying here?

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Speaker 8: I think he's uh. I think this is what he's saying.

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Speaker 8: He's saying, Do you want undisturbed sleep let matches for

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Speaker 8: a match? Shot matches for his Black Friday sales. Save

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Speaker 8: up the five hundred dollars on slept temper Peedick adjustable

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Speaker 4: Their offers was sleep.

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Speaker 3: Dang Jonas Helter.

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Speaker 4: Saying here, we.

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Speaker 2: Just got torched by Jacoby Brissett. Can I get some

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: And why'd you make me hire Maddie Refluse just because

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be given full autonomy on the

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Speaker 3: Make decisions here, and and you go ahead.

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Speaker 2: And after you announce me as the head coach and

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Speaker 4: So y'all giving up a lot of points? Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: gotta reverse. I got to put it in reverse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 2: That is the uh, the first installment of.

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Speaker 4: All right, So I'm just going to be outrageous from

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if they're not going to be fourth, right,

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Speaker 4: So oh that's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

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Speaker 2: So we talked about this a little bit with Dean

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Speaker 2: on the show about the Frankie Louvu hip drop tackle

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Speaker 2: that was a one game suspension handed out violation by

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Speaker 8: I can't wait to hip drop tackle this player and

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00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 8: injure him. In those moments, he's doing his job. He's

439
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 8: trying to get the player to the ground. And I

440
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 8: understand they're trying to eliminate this technique of doing so,

441
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, this comes down

442
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 8: to a guy's or a man's job being getting that

443
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 8: guy down on the ground, and a defender is gonna

444
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 8: do it by whatever means necessary because that's his job.

445
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 8: I just I look at this and I think, now,

446
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 8: because he's done it a few times before, a couple

447
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 8: of times before, people are quick to react to it.

448
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 8: It's no different than like Draymond Green in the NBA.

449
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 8: As soon as he starts to talk to an official,

450
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 8: they're quick to give him a tee. Why because he's

451
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 8: got a history of it, so now they're assuming that

452
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Speaker 8: anything he says anything he's done warrants that they're not

453
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 8: every tackle, not every game, not every play is all

454
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 8: the same. And so I understand they're trying to change

455
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 8: his habit of how he's made some of his hits

456
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Speaker 8: in the past and eliminate this particular tackle. Stop trying

457
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 8: to teach tackling how you do now, because every single

458
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 8: time they teach these angle tackles, they're trying to take

459
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Speaker 8: their head out of it. You subject the player, especially

460
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 8: if they end up aiming behind, he's gonna be able

461
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 8: to try to grab in some type of way and

462
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 8: swing his body to get the guy down. Otherwise he's

463
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Speaker 8: the ball here is going to carry them for four

464
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 8: or five yards. I just I think there's a big

465
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Speaker 8: issue right now to me with the way we're teaching

466
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 8: tackling and how it then applies to what we're seeing

467
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 8: or how the hip drop tackle has come along. I

468
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 8: think it's a byproduct of some of the technique being taught.

469
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Speaker 4: I'll start by saying there is no exact there is

470
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: no exact perfect way to tackle, and people may say, well,

471
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Speaker 4: what does that mean. The reasoning behind it is is

472
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 4: there's too many variables that go into a play that

473
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Speaker 4: dictate how you're able to approach the person the ball carrier,

474
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: So there isn't an exact okay, soon as he catches

475
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: the ball, this is exactly the way you approach it.

476
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: This is how you make contact. It doesn't work that way.

477
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 4: Some guys run higher than others. Some guys are taller

478
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 4: than others. Some guys are shorter than others. Some guys

479
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: are bigger than others, some guys are smaller. It's too

480
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 4: many different variables in Louvu's case, and this tackle that

481
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 4: he just made that he got fined for, which I'm

482
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 4: curious as to why he would get fined one hundred

483
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. That was his momentum. His momentum carried him

484
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: that way. He ran from an outside angle, he made

485
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 4: contact with the ball carrier. He's holding on to the

486
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Speaker 4: ball carrier. Because again the conversation with Dean Blandino that

487
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: was thrown out there, if you let the guy go

488
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 4: so that you don't get what is perceived to be

489
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Speaker 4: a hip drop, a hip drop technique, then you missed

490
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Speaker 4: the tackle. And it's okay for you to miss the

491
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 4: tackle because you let him go for safety purposes, where

492
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Speaker 4: you don't get labeled as a dirty player or a

493
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: hip drop technique, like that's that's pretty that's pretty crazy

494
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: to me.

495
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: You can't drag him down, and you can't drive.

496
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: Him down again. If you can't drag a guy down,

497
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 4: If you can't drag a guy down, I don't like

498
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 4: you're you're really really making it difficult. And again you

499
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: see you see the benefits of it because you see

500
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 4: more runners have success in running the ball because these

501
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: defenders don't really know. It's it's just hard to tackle

502
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: somebody anymore. It really is. If if I have to

503
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: tackle a guy that's smaller than me, he's most likely

504
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: going to be as quick or quicker than I am.

505
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 4: That's hard to try to figure out an open space

506
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: how you're going to tackle a person legally. It's it's

507
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: it's an added thought process. It's difficult, and at the

508
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 4: pro level, that's like you're you're asking guys to do

509
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 4: things that are unrealistic. And maybe that's what what the

510
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: rules are for. Maybe it is to make it unrealistic

511
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: for defenders to be able to legitimately be able to defend.

512
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 4: And maybe that's the hidden secret of it all, Like

513
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: keep putting rules in play, say it's for safety purposes,

514
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: but in reality, you're you're making it easier for players.

515
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 4: And then when a player and and and now that

516
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm saying this out loud, maybe that's why it's one

517
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars fine. You know that that's There's no

518
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: way that hit should have been a fine. There's no

519
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: way that hit should have been a penalty. There's no

520
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: way that the kids should have been suspended. It's just

521
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 4: that was a good hit. He came from an outside angle.

522
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 4: He ran up on him. The guys going forward, he's

523
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: running from the side diagonally, so his body and his

524
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 4: momentum is carrying carrying him across the back of his body.

525
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: Like you gotta get in position to try to make

526
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: the tackle as best you can.

527
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: How fast is the guy? How quick is the guy?

528
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 4: Like there's all these different aspects of going into a

529
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: tackle and what that looks like, and it's just not

530
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: it's people can sit back and talk about how difficult

531
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 4: it is or how it should look. You can you

532
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: can rewind slow mode, Da da da. You can put

533
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 4: these diagrams in affect as much as you like, but

534
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 4: clearly you don't understand what it feels like to be

535
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 4: on the field with some of these guys trying to

536
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 4: do your job. And the simplest thing that a defender

537
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: is supposed to do is tackle. It's tackle, and so

538
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: to me, you make it more difficult. You find him

539
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 4: one hundred grand. That's a that's a message, that's what

540
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 4: that is. Like, don't tackle like this. If you see

541
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: what Luvu did, don't tackle like this because you don't

542
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: want to lose one hundred grand. You don't want to

543
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: risk missing a game. You don't want to miss losing

544
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: a game check. That's all this is is you're sending

545
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 4: a message to the other defenders to stop tackling a

546
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 4: certain type of way. I just think it's it's sad.

547
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: So if they're telling you you can't do the hip

548
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: drop because you're gonna get suspended a game and you're

549
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: gonna miss your five hundred plus thousand dollars game check,

550
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: all right, then what do you do?

551
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you've seen you we've seen these these videos

552
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: that pop up where you'll see a guy like pull up.

553
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, Like basically what you're saying is is if

554
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: you don't have the right angle, like This is real.

555
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: This is like real talk. If you do not have

556
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: the right angle to go tackle somebody, then don't tackle them. Yeah,

557
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: and I'm just and it sounds crazy, right, It sounds crazy,

558
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 4: But we have there have been videos that have popped

559
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 4: up where you see guys pull up, you see them

560
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 4: pull up. It's amazing to me. So basically, what you're

561
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: saying is is a guy has to be in front

562
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: of you, in front of you, and he has to

563
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: attack you for the tackle from in front of you.

564
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: Because if you attack somebody from the side, if God forbid,

565
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: you have to run somebody down from the side an

566
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 4: angle from behind, anything that you do is generally going

567
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 4: to be some type of up to interpretation of if

568
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: you're executing a legal tackle. That's what this is to me.

569
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that the thought of Frankie Louvu when

570
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: he goes into you know, when this was Jackson Smith

571
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: and Jigba. I can't imagine in that moment he's thinking, oh,

572
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: I want to rip this guy's knee up.

573
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: I could understand if you were going if it was a.

574
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Direct shot at his kneecap and you were going to

575
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: take him out and you were going low, which I.

576
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 4: Want to totally get him down. Every defender is thinking

577
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 4: to themselves, I want to get him down. That's how

578
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 4: hard you hit somebody. That's different, right, But getting like

579
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 4: somebody down with your momentum, which that's what he did.

580
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: You're supposed to use your momentum to try to get

581
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 4: somebody down. That's what you're supposed to do. Use your momentum.

582
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 4: If I'm running up on you, if I got to

583
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: grab you by your shoulder pads, I want to use

584
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: my momentum to get you down. That might be my

585
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 4: only way of getting you down. You heard Q say

586
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 4: using your neck and extending your neck and getting your

587
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: head in the way, Like I'm not doing that. So

588
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: if I can make the tackle without having to get

589
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 4: my neck all the way involved in doing it, I

590
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 4: want to make contact. If you want to know the

591
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 4: proper contact point, it's your chest, your chest. The proper

592
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: aiming point is the shoulders. You attack the balance zone

593
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: of a ball carrier to impede thereforeward progress to throw

594
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 4: their balance off. If I can throw your balance off,

595
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: then from there I gotta see what I can do

596
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: to get you down. So if I strike your shoulder

597
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: then now I'm grabbing your shoulders, I'm wrapping you up,

598
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 4: and then now I'm trying to use my momentum to

599
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: force your shoulders to take your body down. And some

600
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 4: guys that's in theory. It sounds good and it makes sense,

601
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 4: but they might be strong enough to withstand your your

602
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: contact and your your leverage of trying to use your

603
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 4: momentum to pull them down. Some guys can break that.

604
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 4: So you're not like you got guys like Saquon and

605
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 4: guys squatting shobb and Autumn squatting the god dang world

606
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: on a squat rack on a bar, and you're saying,

607
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: we got to figure out how exactly to hit them

608
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: where it doesn't constitute it being interpreted as a hip drop. Hey,

609
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 4: come on, man, if somebody's hip dropping the tackle, you

610
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 4: can see a guy that grabs a guy, pulls them

611
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: and sits down on the back of their legs. Just

612
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: go look at Roy Williams. Roy Williams was the master

613
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: of hip that. If you want to call it hip

614
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: dropping whatever, I think it's crazy to even give it

615
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 4: a name. Horse the dude, well horse, he will horse

616
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 4: callar you, pull you back and then sit on your

617
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: legs to get you down.

618
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: Like that's that? That to me the horse callar tackle.

619
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 4: I get that, even though I'm like, hey, if you

620
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: could catch a guy from behind and you could get

621
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: a hold of the bat, I made a living off

622
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 4: of that, So most of the plays I would have

623
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: made would have been penalties. I'm gonna run you down

624
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: if I could get a hold of the back of

625
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: your pads. I'm gonna I'm gonna yank you down by

626
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: the back of your pads. I don't see why that

627
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: should be a problem either.

628
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 13: Man.

629
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Speaker 4: It's fine if it's if you want to call it,

630
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: make it a penalty and make it a legal that's fine.

631
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 4: Because guys did eventually start throwing their bodies into their legs.

632
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: But for some guys, I didn't throw my body. I

633
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: didn't drop my butt onto the back of their legs

634
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: when I when I horse collar guys, I just pulled them.

635
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: I pulled them down. I got a hold of the

636
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: back of their pads and held onto it and used

637
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: my momentum to pull them down. My body never touched them.

638
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: I never had to use my head, didn't have to

639
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: use my shoulders. I got a hold of their pads

640
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: and I pulled them down. So I just think that

641
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 4: creating all of these conversations about players safety and how

642
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: you got to tackle, and all these different focuses on

643
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: the defense, I think it just takes away. It really

644
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 4: takes away from the game, man, It really does, because

645
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 4: you're taking away the essence of what football represents. Football

646
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: is about moving the ball down the field and another

647
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: group trying to stop them from doing it, and doing

648
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 4: it ends the play by the person hitting the ground

649
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: or or incomplete pass. You gotta tackle. You gotta be

650
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 4: able to tackle, man.

651
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 11: You know.

652
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,400
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Speaker 13: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

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Speaker 13: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

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Speaker 2: It is time a Thursday tradition here on the show

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Speaker 2: that we welcome in a man who is feeling really

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Speaker 2: good about his alma mater sitting high atop the college

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Speaker 2: football playoff ranking.

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Speaker 3: He tried of Ohio State. He want and only.

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Speaker 2: Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.

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Speaker 3: You can get him on X at Albert Breer AB.

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Speaker 3: Good Morning.

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Speaker 15: You want to make sure we're good here.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I it sounds like some people have some

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Speaker 11: problems with us being number one.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean got here.

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Speaker 4: Came in hot, Albert Breer came in hot today.

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Speaker 8: Let's let's let's warn this out.

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Speaker 11: Albert is that on a tough schedule they faced the SEC.

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Speaker 8: Right, hold on, hold on, and M and Indiana both

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Speaker 8: have played so far a tougher schedule and and have

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Speaker 8: better wins.

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Speaker 11: Am really played a tougher schedule though, Yeah, or are

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Speaker 11: you or are you just.

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Speaker 15: Going by the patch on their jerseys?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 8: And this is where, like I think a lot of

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Speaker 8: people who want to try to act like the SEC

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Speaker 8: doesn't have a greater group of good football teams. I mean, look,

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Speaker 8: Ohio State is probably the best team in the country.

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Speaker 8: Indiana's right there at number two. Like you can, you

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Speaker 8: can make those cases, but don't act like a M's

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Speaker 8: not right there, And don't act like the SEC doesn't

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Speaker 8: have more more depth. They've got better teams.

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Speaker 16: They do, they do have more.

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Speaker 15: Death they buy La.

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Speaker 3: Albert.

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Speaker 8: There's no dispute, by and large, you can play a

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Speaker 8: much more difficult road. Like that's not even debatable. That's

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Speaker 8: like fact.

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Speaker 16: That the SEC is so big now and the Big

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Speaker 16: Ten is too.

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Speaker 11: You really have to look at which teams they're playing, right, Like,

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Speaker 11: look at which SEC teams they've played.

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Speaker 8: Okay, if you really want to go that route, all right,

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Speaker 8: let's just go ahead and talk about this. Which conference

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Speaker 8: has the most team most players draft in the NFL.

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Speaker 15: I'm not arguing the SEC. The SEC is deeper, There's

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Speaker 15: no question about that. I'm not arguing that at all.

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Speaker 16: I'm just saying, like the team specifically the teams that Texas.

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Speaker 11: A and M has played like there, they have not

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Speaker 11: they have played Alabama?

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Speaker 15: Have they they played?

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Speaker 8: But they will take play Texas. They played Miszoo this week.

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Speaker 8: They've already beaten LSU in baton Rouge, which is a

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Speaker 8: tough road test. And I would go as far as

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Speaker 8: saying this, they beat Notre Dame on Notre Dame like

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Speaker 8: I would say this the Auburn's, Mississippi States in Florida's

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Speaker 8: those schools are better than the Rutgers, U, C, l A,

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Speaker 8: whoever else you want to throw on there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: they are, well, I would take I would. I think

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Speaker 8: Florida would beat Illinois.

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Speaker 16: Close though, right, Like so sure, but what are like

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Speaker 16: what do we No, No.

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Speaker 8: I'm not m throw pens into this, which like that's

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Speaker 8: part of the issue.

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Speaker 4: Is a down year.

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Speaker 8: That's a down year, right, That's part of the issue.

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Speaker 8: Is your Penn State, your Michigan brands are not as

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Speaker 8: good as as some of these other teams that are

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Speaker 8: bidding for a playoff spot. Michigan's still in the hunt,

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Speaker 8: but we'll see what happens at the end of the year.

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Speaker 4: That's fair.

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Speaker 11: I mean, like, but I would I would agree with

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Speaker 11: like everything you're saying if they.

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Speaker 16: Were playing like like I'll go home.

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Speaker 15: It's playing like a.

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Speaker 11: Legitimately like murderous schedule, I think, right, Like so like.

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Speaker 8: You forma Florida a number of teams, But yeah, there

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Speaker 8: are a few of these schools.

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Speaker 11: Like it's just these conferences have gotten so big now

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Speaker 11: that there are years where you have a little bit

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Speaker 11: of an easier path. It happens in both the Big

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Speaker 11: Ten and the SEC.

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Speaker 15: Right, And I just feel like if you look at

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Speaker 15: A and M schedule, it's like, yes, the SEC is deeper,

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Speaker 15: there's no question.

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Speaker 11: I'm not I'm not gonna be one of those like

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Speaker 11: Big ten guys who argues otherwise it's not.

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Speaker 15: It's just it is where it is.

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Speaker 16: It's just like A and M has an easier.

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Speaker 15: Pass this year through the SEC than you might in

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Speaker 15: another year.

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Speaker 11: I don't think that's debatable either, is it, Brady?

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Speaker 8: Uh, it's it's easier in comparison to other SEC schools.

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Speaker 8: I don't. I wouldn't say that their schedule is easier

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Speaker 8: than Ohio States, for example, because they'll both play Texas.

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Speaker 8: Texas is not the team we thought they were. And

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Speaker 8: by the way, if you want to make the comparison

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Speaker 8: to like Indiana's strength the schedule, I realized their non

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Speaker 8: conference was easy, but you both played Illinois like they

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Speaker 8: blew the crap out of Illinois. Yeah, you played them

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Speaker 8: in Champagne and you still beat them. But the reality

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Speaker 8: is like Indiana's game, you.

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Speaker 11: Watch that game, I mean, come on, you watch that

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Speaker 11: game like Illinois was never and we were in like

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Speaker 11: third gear in that game.

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Speaker 15: You know, like I don't know, Like I just like

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Speaker 15: look at this and like I just I mean, it'll

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Speaker 15: all be sad. I mean it means.

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Speaker 11: Here's the other thing, is this argument means less than

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Speaker 11: it ever has before. Right, it actually matter like where

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Speaker 11: it was, like it could mean getting in not getting in,

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Speaker 11: So it matters less than it ever has before.

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Speaker 8: Sure, But the problem is the problem is is it

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Speaker 8: comes down to eye test. Is really what you're saying then,

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Speaker 8: as you're saying right now, it's not what's on paper,

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Speaker 8: it's what I think I see, and I agree with you,

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Speaker 8: Like Ohio State looks to be the best team statistically.

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Speaker 8: You could probably make some arguments. I mean, Indiana again

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Speaker 8: is a better point differential. They've equally as dominant, and

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Speaker 8: at the end of the day it doesn't really matter

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Speaker 8: because they would both end up getting buy It's a

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Speaker 8: different path. Like I look at honestly, Lo like a

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame of ten, and I understand what people have

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Speaker 8: a gripe with it, Like if Miami beats you, you

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Speaker 8: can't have them eight spots behind them, even though they

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Speaker 8: just lost, and they feel like they're on a downward,

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Speaker 8: you know, trend, and they struggle in November under crystabal.

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Speaker 8: But like I understand how people get frustrated because if

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Speaker 8: you're going to state a criteria, you need to abide

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Speaker 8: by that criteria, and so you can't go into this

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Speaker 8: offseason and say strength to schedule matters. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 8: when the first ranking comes out, you don't really make

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Speaker 8: strength of schedule look like it matters quite as much.

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Speaker 8: That's what's frustrating, I think for a lot of fans.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I just don't I don't think like I mean,

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Speaker 11: I don't and maybe I'm wrong about this. I don't

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Speaker 11: think the strength of schedule like between Ohio.

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Speaker 15: State and texts A and M at least, like I

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Speaker 15: think Indiana.

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Speaker 11: Schedule is probably a little lighter, although they did play

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Speaker 11: Oregon in Eugene, right Like I think, like with Ohio

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Speaker 11: State and text A and M, I I think to

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Speaker 11: this point and maybe it'll change as you know, the

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Speaker 11: year ago, like you know, you get deeper.

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Speaker 15: Into the season.

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Speaker 11: Ohio State doesn't have a real test left until until Michigan,

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Speaker 11: and you know, like and M, I think as a

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Speaker 11: couple left right, like, so this might look different like

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Speaker 11: at the end of the year.

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Speaker 16: But like as of right now, you know, you talk

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Speaker 16: about the eye.

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Speaker 15: Tests and everything else, and then you know the history.

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Speaker 16: And all that, and I don't know that there's this

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Speaker 16: like I think some people are making it.

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Speaker 11: Out to be because it's huge gap in the schedules,

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Speaker 11: and I just don't think there is that Texas A

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Speaker 11: and M schedule might be a little tougher, Like I'm

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Speaker 11: fine with that, but like to act as if like

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Speaker 11: they're going through like the murderers row the sec just

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Speaker 11: a case you know they've played.

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Speaker 8: Don't don't tell that to Bama fans. Don't tell that

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Speaker 8: to Bama fans. And and I also I also would

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Speaker 8: add this, there's been more parody and upsets I think

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Speaker 8: this year than many others in which in regards to

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Speaker 8: the AP poll. And I think a lot of that

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Speaker 8: has to do with the fact that those games that

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Speaker 8: you're referring to that feel like layups, they're not anymore

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Speaker 8: because you go out there and you lay an egg

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Speaker 8: or your team has an off day, those average middle

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Speaker 8: of the road teams are now capable of pulling off

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Speaker 8: the upset.

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's right, Yeah, And I sit there and.

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Speaker 8: Looking at I go look at look at some of

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Speaker 8: these other like for example, Texas barely being in Kentucky.

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Speaker 8: It's like, dude, they won, they won, like at the

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Speaker 8: end of the day, like all that matters is winning

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Speaker 8: and losing. And so again, we don't need to waste

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Speaker 8: too much time on this, Like Ohio State looks to

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Speaker 8: be the best liked. By the way, do I feel

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Speaker 8: like Notre Dame looks to be better than Miami right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think if they played again, Notre Dame would beat

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Speaker 8: Miami and we can go talk to odds makers and

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Speaker 8: what those betting lines would look like. But the truth

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Speaker 8: of the matter is like, at some point your own

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Speaker 8: criteria has to come into play.

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Speaker 11: I'm with you on that because I do think like

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Speaker 11: you know, this is one thing that was frustrating to

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Speaker 11: me about these arguments in the past, is like, at

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Speaker 11: some point, winning the game has to matter, you know

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Speaker 11: what I mean?

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Speaker 16: Like and like I think sometimes like we get.

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Speaker 11: Away from what happened a month ago, it's like, no,

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Speaker 11: those games count two, you know what I mean? Like that,

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Speaker 11: it's just because it happened in the September doesn't mean

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Speaker 11: it doesn't count. Like so, you know, like, I'm with

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Speaker 11: you on that part of it.

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Speaker 8: Hey, By the way, Albert, how much more fun is

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Speaker 8: college to talk about that NFL? I know Jonas is

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Speaker 8: going to transition right now to NFL, but much more

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Speaker 8: fun at college, it is, just admit it, it's more fun.

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Speaker 11: Well, I get more, I get more emotional and fired

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Speaker 11: up and everything.

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Speaker 15: So it is fun to talk about.

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Speaker 11: For sure.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Jonas, transit transition, Jonas? Are you there? Is

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Speaker 4: Janas there? That's Jonas Jonas?

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Speaker 15: Did Jeffer himself?

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Speaker 4: I take it. I'll take no worry fine for Jonas.

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Speaker 4: You totally zoned out or did? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what I was.

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Speaker 2: I was about to and then you know, I'd gotten

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Speaker 2: cut off with no blinker, so I just figured, okay,

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Speaker 2: I would just you.

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Speaker 4: Know, got cut off with no blink. Yeah, three seconds did.

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Speaker 3: That's not a fine. That's not a fine. You should

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Speaker 3: be fine.

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Speaker 4: That was rude.

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Speaker 3: I was getting ready to ask a question.

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Speaker 8: Jonas knocks, being a weenie.

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Speaker 13: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was getting ready to ask a question.

874
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: I got dead, are bro We We tried, we we said, Jonas,

875
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Speaker 4: go ahead.

876
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 8: You wanted to say nothing.

877
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I got cut off in traffic. I don't

878
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: know what to tell you.

879
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: That's what it was. He's sitting there talking instead of

880
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: paying attention. Go ahead, go ahead, Jonas.

881
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: So, so ab, how did we get here with the

882
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: New York Jets.

883
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's actually a really interesting story. You know,

884
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 11: like this goes back to the summer and kind of

885
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 11: how they assessed you know, like their roster and I

886
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 11: you know, I I know when they when.

887
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 15: They science nots that deal.

888
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 11: One of the things that like the cat people were

889
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 11: instructed to do is like, let's make sure this deal.

890
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 16: Is tradable because you never know, like you don't know.

891
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 11: What this is going to look like in three months

892
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 11: and four months, and so you just want to give

893
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 11: yourself the flexibility you know, you give you give the

894
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 11: player some wins in the deal, of course, but like

895
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 11: you want to give yourself a flexibility where if something happens,

896
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Speaker 11: you're going to be able to have the flexibility to move.

897
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 15: So that's really where it starts.

898
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 11: And then you know, I give the Jets credit, like

899
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 11: because one thing that I thought was really interesting that

900
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 11: they've been doing over the last month.

901
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 16: And a half is like they've got a weekly meeting

902
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 16: where they.

903
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 11: Put trade values on every one of their players. And

904
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 11: it doesn't mean they're going to trade their players, but

905
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 11: like there's this like we have to be ready for anything, right, like,

906
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 11: and we know we're going to get calls, and so

907
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 11: we have.

908
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 16: To like at least have an idea of what it

909
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 16: would take on.

910
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 11: Any player on our roster, so we're not caught flat

911
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 11: footed and we're not like hustling to figure out whether

912
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 11: or not we want to do something.

913
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 15: And you know, I think the Micah.

914
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 11: Parsons trade informed them on a lot of this because

915
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Speaker 11: on Sauce, when they were talking about like what the

916
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 11: trade value would be, the trade value was what we

917
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 11: would need a.

918
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 15: Micah Parsons type of deal. And you look at it

919
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 15: and like what did it wind up being? It wind

920
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 15: up it wound up being.

921
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 11: A Micah Parsons type of return, right, Like, so I'm

922
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 11: not comparing the two players, but if you look at

923
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 11: the terms of the of the of the trade Dallas

924
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 11: and Green Bay, it was it was it was two

925
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 11: first round picks going from the Packers to the cow

926
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Speaker 11: Boys with a quality player and Kenny Clark. And so

927
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 11: in this case, same sort of thing, you know, like

928
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 11: two players and a quality to two first round picks

929
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 11: and a quality player going from Indianapolis to the Jets.

930
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 11: And then like, I think that kind of loosened them

931
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 11: up a little bit on Quinton Williams, where once the

932
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 11: Sauce deal happens and goes down, it jarred things loose

933
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 11: a little bit.

934
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 15: And it was like, okay, like is there another deal

935
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 15: out there to be done?

936
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 11: You know, and the Cowboys call and the Cowboys were

937
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 11: had had had had that discussion with with with with

938
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 11: the Jets about Quinn Williams going back to the summer

939
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 11: when they'd inquired on Michael Parsons and so uh, that deal.

940
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 15: Gets done too.

941
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 11: I think as much as anything else, Guys, it's like

942
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 11: an acknowledgment of where they are and that you know,

943
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 11: they aren't as close as they thought they'd be based on.

944
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 15: The talent that was on hand.

945
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 11: And so like now you know, you still maintain a

946
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 11: core and you still have Garrett Wilson and all the

947
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 11: Shanu and armand Membu and Jermaine Johnson and well McDonald

948
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 11: and a bunch of good young players.

949
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 15: But this gives you some flexibility to keep building the team.

950
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Speaker 11: And I think the big thing, of course, is this

951
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 11: gives you the capitol to get a quarterback at some

952
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 11: point over the next year or two.

953
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: That's got to be what it is that that they're

954
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 4: trying to do is position to get a quarterback, right.

955
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're going to if you're going to

956
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 4: use draft picks, you're going to use them on trying

957
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 4: to find a cornerback as well. You're going to try

958
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 4: to use it on trying to find a dominant interior

959
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: lineman or a pass rusher that can get to the quarterback.

960
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: Or you're going to use it trying to get a

961
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 4: receiver that can break games open for you and give

962
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: your your quarterback a weapon. I just don't I mean,

963
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: can we get is there any clarity on like is

964
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: it just that the getting a quarterback outweighs the talent

965
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: that you have in Quinn and in Sauce. Like I

966
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: know people say Sauce, I'm been as good in recent

967
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 4: recent games, but that's still an elite guy at the position. Sure,

968
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 4: you're going to just go draft another guy? Why why

969
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: those two? Is it strictly because the draft capital?

970
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 11: I mean, well it was those two because those two

971
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 11: are you know, who they got calls on and who

972
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 11: would bring home the biggest return.

973
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: You know.

974
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 15: Now, I don't think Garrett Wilson was as available, And

975
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,959
Speaker 15: I think part of that does.

976
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 11: Relate back to whenever we do get a quarterback here,

977
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 11: we want to have like an infrastructure around him. On offense,

978
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 11: they have the two tackles, they have a number one

979
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 11: receiver they bring in Ady Mitchell, We'll see what he

980
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 11: becomes there, you know. But they did tell the Colts

981
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 11: at the beginning of this, and this was really three

982
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 11: weeks in the making. I would say they did tell

983
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 11: the Colts at the beginning of this, like.

984
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 15: Anybody on our defense is available.

985
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 11: Now, that doesn't mean they're looking to trade everybody, but

986
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 11: just make us an offer.

987
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 13: You know.

988
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 16: And you know, I'm always having to that, like LeVar,

989
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 16: because like you just never.

990
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 11: Know what someone's gonna what someone's going to offer you,

991
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 11: you know, and it's it's not as long as like

992
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 11: you're not like this stuff.

993
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 15: Isn't becoming public. It can be good to at.

994
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 11: Least have those conversations because you're starting to think bigger

995
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 11: picture about your roster. And I think that's where the

996
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 11: Jets wanted to be here. So I think really the

997
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 11: availability of Sauce and Quinn had to do with their

998
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 11: value and the fact that they could bring a lot

999
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 11: back teams willingness to meet that value.

1000
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 15: And then you know the side of the ball that

1001
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 15: they played on.

1002
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 8: Mm oh, you, Albert, I want to ask you about

1003
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 8: the Colts. They feel like clearly, Daniel Jones, their guy

1004
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 8: for the future with the moves they've made.

1005
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 16: Yeah, I think that's fair, Brady.

1006
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 15: I know they're they're over the moon with what they've

1007
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 15: gotten from them so far.

1008
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 11: And you know, we'll see like what that what what

1009
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 11: what what a new deal looks like. I'd like to

1010
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 11: be Daniel Jones's agent right now because I think he's

1011
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 11: got I think Brian Murphy at Athletes First has a

1012
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 11: lot of leverage rights helpers that way.

1013
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 15: I think it's you.

1014
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 11: You look at where they're at, and you know, if

1015
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 11: you are going to address the quarterback in a way

1016
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 11: other than bringing Daniel Jones back, he would probably be

1017
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 11: using first round picks, whether it's the draft to college

1018
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 11: player or trade for a quarterback to get that quarterback.

1019
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 11: So now you know they've essentially been trading for Sauce

1020
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 11: Gardner eliminated a lot of their ability to go find

1021
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 11: a quarterback in the off season, you know, So that

1022
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 11: points Daniel Jones is a really good negotiating position where

1023
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 11: I think.

1024
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 15: You know, he knows he's their guy going forward.

1025
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 11: You know, And if I'm them, I would actually explore

1026
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 11: doing it now, you know, rather than waiting to le

1027
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 11: the off season. Now we'll see he could force them

1028
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 11: to tag them and you know, then you go through

1029
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 11: that whole song and dance, and you know it's going

1030
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 11: to probably cost forty fifty million dollars a year.

1031
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 15: To keep them there, you know.

1032
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 11: But but yeah, I'd say because this eliminates, you know,

1033
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 11: the other path that the Colts would have to solve

1034
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 11: the quarterback position. You know, I'd say, there's there's no

1035
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 11: question that this is a signal that Daniel Jones is

1036
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 11: going to be a quarterback next year and probably going forward.

1037
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: Albut for Kyler Murray, I'm sorry, what's that is it?

1038
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 4: Is it a rat for Kyler Murray?

1039
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 13: No?

1040
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 15: Yeah, I was, Yeah, I.

1041
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 16: Think at the very least of our the Cardinals are going.

1042
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 11: To explore other options after the year.

1043
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 3: Now.

1044
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 11: Like it's interesting, like the contract sets up, so I

1045
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 11: think he's got about thirty seven million dollars guaranteed for

1046
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 11: next year.

1047
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 16: So it's sort of similar to Tua in that, Like,

1048
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 16: you know, Tua.

1049
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 11: The same way has like a lot of guaranteed money

1050
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 11: in twenty six and then and then and then you know,

1051
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 11: the team whoever holds.

1052
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 15: The contract can get out of it after that. So

1053
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 15: like for me with Kyle or it's like, you.

1054
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 16: Know, I look at Toua and I say, like, if

1055
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 16: a new coach is coming.

1056
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 11: In there, a new coach can sell it as like,

1057
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 11: all right, like Tua is our bridge quarterback.

1058
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 15: You know who is gonna be our quarterback in twenty six.

1059
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 15: That will give us a little bit of flexibility.

1060
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 11: We can neither draft one and keep them behind to

1061
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 11: it this year. We can wait till next year. But

1062
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 11: at the very least we can get a good level

1063
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 11: of play out of Tua. With Kyler, it's a little trickier.

1064
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 15: Because you know, you're not going to have a new

1065
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 15: regime coming in there. I don't think and so and

1066
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 15: you've had now.

1067
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 11: Jacoby Brissett going in there, and I don't know about

1068
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 11: you guys, but watching them, it looks to me like

1069
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 11: Trey McBride and Marvin Harrison and some of the talent

1070
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 11: they have on hand there.

1071
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 15: It's starting to come alive with Jacoby at quarterback, you know, So.

1072
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 16: How do you handle that going forward?

1073
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 15: Can you go back to Kyler after this? I don't

1074
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 15: think that's the plan right now. We'll see how.

1075
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 11: Jacoby continues to play, and then how do you handle

1076
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 11: it after the year.

1077
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 15: Do you walk away, do you try to trade them?

1078
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 15: Is there somebody out there.

1079
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 11: Who wanting to take him on as like a Sam

1080
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 11: Darnold Baker Mayfield reclamation project. I think there's going to

1081
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 11: be a lot of like those questions asked when we

1082
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 11: get to February and March, and it wouldn't surprise me

1083
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 11: in the least if the Cardinals.

1084
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 15: Are going in a different direction at the position.

1085
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Zach

1086
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: Taylor in Cincy. I know that, you know, defensively, you know,

1087
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 2: he's the offensive guy, but he's also the head coach,

1088
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: and so anything on that team that looks, you know,

1089
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,919
Speaker 2: a little suspect, he's going to be the one that's

1090
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: held accountable for it. And so Chase Brown calling out

1091
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 2: the defense. You know, I know Joe Burrow's been injured,

1092
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Speaker 2: but you know, it's been a couple of years since

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Speaker 2: they've made the playoffs, They've gotten off to these slow starts.

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Speaker 3: They tried a different approach this year. What's his future

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Speaker 3: look like?

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Speaker 2: Because I would imagine if that job opens up to

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Speaker 2: be able to coach Joe Burrow immediately has got to

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Speaker 2: be the top job of the.

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Speaker 11: Market, right well, I mean, let's start here. I mean

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Speaker 11: generally my experience, I don't know. Yeah, the guy guys

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Speaker 11: can can can speak to this probably better than me.

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Speaker 11: But I generally think, like when something like this becomes public,

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Speaker 11: it's probably way worse behind the scenes, you know.

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Speaker 15: And we've seen this before where you've got the.

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Speaker 11: You have the kind of divide between offense and defense

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Speaker 11: when one side is out performing the other, and that's

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Speaker 11: certainly the case here, you know, where the offense is

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Speaker 11: doing everything it can to save the Bengals season and.

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Speaker 15: Doing it without the quarterback, you know, and then you hear.

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Speaker 11: About things like, you know, defensive players horsing around in

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Speaker 11: the locker room after after what happened on Sunday with

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Speaker 11: the with the Bears. So you know, certainly I think

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Speaker 11: that like there's a question of like how one side fits.

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Speaker 15: With the other right now. And the job Al Golden's.

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Speaker 11: Doing and replacing Uliant Romo and Loulian Arumo obviously is

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Speaker 11: acquitting himself pretty well in Indianapolis. Now, so are you

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Speaker 11: going to another coordinator change? I have a hard time

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Speaker 11: seeing them walk away through Zach Taylor after everything that

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Speaker 11: Zach's accomplished there over the last you know, five years

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Speaker 11: and going back to back AFC title games and making

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Speaker 11: it work through you know, Burrow being injured. But but

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Speaker 11: I but I certainly think like there's there's got to

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Speaker 11: be a look after you know, you spend all that

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Speaker 11: money on offense, and you know you've done so much

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Speaker 11: to to to try to make sure that you're you're

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Speaker 11: stable long term on.

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Speaker 15: That side of the ball.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's it's one of those questions where you

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Speaker 11: look at it and said, yes to take the defense

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Speaker 11: down to the studs now and.

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Speaker 4: Almost start over jeez.

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Speaker 3: Uh well, ab uh, it's that time.

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Speaker 2: It's time to uh to go ahead and get your

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Speaker 2: thoughts here as we get ready for the big weekend

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Speaker 2: in the world of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, look.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, I mean these are these are big games,

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Speaker 2: big games involving everybody including so ab Uh, do you

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Speaker 2: feel that at the end of this weekend's game against

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Speaker 2: Purdue that Ohio's date will have won by more than

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Speaker 2: twenty nine and a half points?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, let's say you Because I haven't taken him to

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Speaker 11: cover the last few weeks right like and then they did,

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Speaker 11: I think, so.

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Speaker 16: I'll take them to cover this week.

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Speaker 15: How about that?

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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Speaker 15: Or I'll take them to Sorry, I shouldn't use that.

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Speaker 16: That uh that that that phrasing.

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Speaker 15: I will take them to. I will expect them to

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Speaker 15: win the game by more than twenty.

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Speaker 3: Now, are they going to be out of third gear

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Speaker 3: to run up the score and be able to kind

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Speaker 3: of prove me?

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Speaker 15: You never know, tick it into fifth gear?

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Speaker 11: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 15: LeVar might have an idea of what fifth gear looks like.

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Speaker 4: Week. No, Wow, I should have got a targeting call.

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Speaker 11: I know that.

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Speaker 16: That's where you're going.

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Speaker 4: Referees. Those referees were you're going.

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Speaker 16: Wait, wait, wait, that's where you're going.

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Speaker 2: Referees.

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Speaker 4: Those referees they they were getting they were bailing y'all out.

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Speaker 15: You know, I talk.

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Speaker 11: It's what it was.

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Speaker 16: You're gonna go with LeVar targeting call in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 15: When you were down by twenty.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't called. They didn't he didn't get suspended. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't targeting. It's it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: In defense, Dean Dean did say that that should have

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Speaker 8: been targeting.

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Speaker 4: It should have been talking.

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Speaker 16: I mean, did you see Caleb looked like looked like.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't believe it. He couldn't believe he was ready

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Speaker 3: to go in.

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Speaker 4: He knew what he did. You see what I did

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Speaker 4: right there? Guys, though, you got you got to shift

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Speaker 4: the attention to something else. Man, don't want to hear

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Speaker 4: about all this gloating.

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Speaker 11: I'm just I'm just glad I won't call it cost

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Speaker 11: Caleb the first half and that big massive against Purdue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's so disappointing that we've been

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Speaker 4: doing this show for so long.

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Speaker 8: And I think this season, like half your schedule has

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Speaker 8: got a winning record.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to yet to come on here after

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Speaker 4: an Ohio State game with a win against Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: That's that's ready to represent.

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Speaker 4: I'm just ready to like be a sore, sore winner

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Speaker 4: with Albert Breer on the line, and it just won't happen.

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Speaker 4: I just can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a.

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Speaker 4: Part of what I got going on.

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Speaker 3: Always appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 2: There he is the Albert Breer with us here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at

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Speaker 2: the MMQB at Albert Brier on X.

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Speaker 3: He can't be hot today