WEBVTT - Brendan Sorsby's Exit + Message Board Madness

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal. Call that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, rub and see. Welcome back to the solid Verbal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely, shall we get into news.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's I don't know if you can hear to my voice.

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<v Speaker 3>My voice is still not back to one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>You're all right. I think you're totally passable. You are

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<v Speaker 2>a seeing eye single of audio quality.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not gonna do my normal screech, and I

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<v Speaker 3>probably should once this is back up to snuff, I

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<v Speaker 3>probably should record myself screaming the breaking news bit and

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<v Speaker 3>just incorporate it into the sounds so that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to, like, you know, do it organically.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like it if we could employ some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>DJ or producer to really go for it with our

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<v Speaker 2>sounds moving forward as we overhaul some of our visuals

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<v Speaker 2>where it's just like.

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<v Speaker 1>But but break but break break, but but breaking news,

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<v Speaker 1>but breaking.

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<v Speaker 2>News like I think that will take us to the

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<v Speaker 2>next level of being awful.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Solid Rebel at gmail dot com his email

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<v Speaker 3>address if you were ever.

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<v Speaker 1>So inclined, I want to be our house, DJ Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>We got news later on Monday that Texas Tech quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>if only for a moment, Brendan Soresby, was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be backing off of his NCAA lawsuit and he would

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<v Speaker 3>be entering the NFL supplemental Draft. This, of course, is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge about face in this saga that has unfolded

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<v Speaker 3>over the last few weeks and months. You may recall

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<v Speaker 3>Brendan Soresby got into some hot water right, it came

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<v Speaker 3>to light that he had placed something like ninety thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars worth of bets spanning, you know, a bit of time,

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<v Speaker 3>dating all the way back to his previous stops, some

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<v Speaker 3>of which were yes, betting on college football, including his

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<v Speaker 3>own team. So there was a whole thing that went

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<v Speaker 3>into that. We discussed it at length here on the

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<v Speaker 3>show when we last left this story. Soorsby had one

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<v Speaker 3>an injunction whereby he'd have to sit out two games

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<v Speaker 3>and that he could play the remainder of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>I should say that was met pretty swiftly with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of pushback, both from teams within the Big Twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>from administrators within the Big Twelve, from other teams that

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<v Speaker 3>were suddenly pushing back on even trying to schedule Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of pushback in light of this decision,

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<v Speaker 3>and it eventually came, I guess, to a breaking point,

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<v Speaker 3>a mutual parting of ways, as has been reported. But

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<v Speaker 3>my hunch is that the legal gravity and some of

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<v Speaker 3>what was being filed, maybe which we can detail here,

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<v Speaker 3>simply made the situation untenable and Brendan Soresby is, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>going to try and make his way to the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>now just a huge one point eight given all the

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<v Speaker 3>reporting that's gone on out there again over the last.

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<v Speaker 1>Few weeks months.

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<v Speaker 3>This is something that I think we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about for a while, certainly as we get into

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<v Speaker 3>the season, and most assuredly when we start previewing Texas

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<v Speaker 3>Tech in about a month or so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think if I don't think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>thing that we're going to be talking about for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think we're all going to move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think how well I what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that.

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<v Speaker 3>And somebody suggested to me that this could be a

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<v Speaker 3>fantasy thing, which I don't think we'll make it that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I understand where the person is coming from. This

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<v Speaker 3>tends to be one of those stories that people feel

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<v Speaker 3>the need to repeat and repeat and repeat, even if

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<v Speaker 3>it's just in passing, like Will Hamman got the job

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<v Speaker 3>because dot dot dot right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'll be a beginning of the season thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Brendan Soarsby is going to be more of

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<v Speaker 2>a trivia answer question moving forward in the long term,

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<v Speaker 2>just because it was all kind of over before it

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to begin. I'm going to attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>get let's call it sixty three percent of the legalese

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<v Speaker 2>correct here. The only thing that I think you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>skim over it, but it's just part of this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>is there was a threat from I believe the Attorney

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<v Speaker 2>General Ken Paxton of Texas, a threat regarding the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve potentially trying to exercise its own ability to punish

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<v Speaker 2>or discipline and cast into doubt the eligibility of somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who they feel like had violated their bylaws. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Twelve then prepared a legal document via I

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<v Speaker 2>think a powerhouse law firm Sidley Austin, I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the basically preparing to sue whoever and

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<v Speaker 2>whomever whatever is questioning the Big twelve's First Amendment right

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<v Speaker 2>to enforce its own bylaws. And that prepared document, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was a forty seven page document or something

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<v Speaker 2>I think put a lot of fear into Texas Tech

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<v Speaker 2>And as fun as that was, it a twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>minute podcast, as you called it, the gathering of the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech minds at a man.

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<v Speaker 3>We could talk about that later, but yeah, that I

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<v Speaker 3>did refrac the tweet that I put out last Night

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<v Speaker 3>did like a quarter million views calling it a podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a video podcast, is what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were legal doings behind the scenes that seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to put even more pressure on Brendan Sorosby and his

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to play this year now this by the Big Twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>who basically they had the fifteen of the sixteen members

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<v Speaker 2>schools behind them saying and we had I think, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get this phrasing correct, attorneys general from I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say Kansas, Oklahoma, and Utah also on board

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<v Speaker 2>and prepared to back the Big Twelve in its ability

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<v Speaker 2>to enforce its bylaws regarding eligibility. And so the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing was getting behind the scenes pretty ugly, and a

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a growing wave of support behind the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve in its potential fight against Texas Tech and the

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<v Speaker 2>injunction that allowed Brendon Sorosby to play. Brendon Sorosby, as

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<v Speaker 2>you noted, hasn't had until I want to say, a

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<v Speaker 2>week from yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, June twenty second, June twenty second, So we're recording

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<v Speaker 3>this on Tuesday the sixteenth. The deadline to get into

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<v Speaker 3>the supplemental draft is June and twenty second.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And I think there was a fear that if

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to start prolonged legal battles, he would

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<v Speaker 2>not have any recourse in terms of NFL eligibility in

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<v Speaker 2>this in this year's supplemental draft cycle if the legal

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<v Speaker 2>stuff kept going and going and going, And so he decided,

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<v Speaker 2>the school decided it seemed like and there were there

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<v Speaker 2>was a statement from Texas Tech that basically amounted to

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<v Speaker 2>this became more and more difficult to try and navigate,

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<v Speaker 2>and we understand and support Brendan Sorosby in his path,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's Cody Campbell put out a statement that Brendan

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<v Speaker 2>Sorosby is going to get all of the money that's

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<v Speaker 2>owed to him with this level of timing, and everybody's

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward, and the Big twelve issued a statement that

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<v Speaker 2>they're now sixteen strong, moving forward and excited for our

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<v Speaker 2>future together and hopefully everybody is begrudgingly holding hands once again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole legal side of it.

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<v Speaker 3>After Soresby won the temporary injunction, the pushback was fast

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<v Speaker 3>and furious. And you know, initially I heard of it,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm probably messing up the chronology, but initially I

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<v Speaker 3>heard of other schools outside of the Big twelve that

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<v Speaker 3>were pushing back in the sense that they didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to schedule Texas Tech. They were athletic directors, administrators reaching

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<v Speaker 3>out to coaches and those in the know, saying we

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to play them, We're not going to play

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<v Speaker 3>them as a result of this. If they decide that

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<v Speaker 3>this is okay, then yes, the Big Twelve sort of

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<v Speaker 3>banded together and started pushing back as best they could

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<v Speaker 3>through the legal system. There was this challenge from the

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Attorney General than there were others that jumped on

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<v Speaker 3>the side of the Big Twelve that led us down

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<v Speaker 3>this pathway now of soresby Texas Tech mutually parting ways.

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<v Speaker 3>The issue from the Big Twelve being such that yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we are sixteen strong, holding hands moving forward. He didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say holding hands.

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<v Speaker 2>We said that everybody's koombay ah, But yes, that was

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the Big Twelve via this law

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<v Speaker 2>firm asking a federal court clarity essentially on its ability

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<v Speaker 2>to sanction under First Amendment protections its own enforceable by laws.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where it stood, and now Texas Tech is

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward. Will Hammond is not cleared to play in

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<v Speaker 2>games at this moment. He's rehabbing from a torn acl

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<v Speaker 2>that I think he suffered in October. So he's the

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<v Speaker 2>presumptive starter at some point. Joey Maguire has said previously

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<v Speaker 2>and talking about Will Hammond, that he is on track

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, I think he's doing seven on seven

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<v Speaker 2>activity and on track to participate to some degree in

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<v Speaker 2>fall camp, but cast into doubt his ability to be

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<v Speaker 2>back by week one essentially as I think where Joey

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<v Speaker 2>Maguire left Will Hammond's status recently. So they I believe

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<v Speaker 2>have a Tulsa transfer behind Will Hammond in the quarterback room.

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<v Speaker 2>But Texas Tech, although I suppose they could address quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>in creative if not also punishable ways moving forward, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what their quarterback room as of now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where it stands.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think you mentioned there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about this. There are a couple of quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>still lingering in the portal. I want to say Jake Garcia,

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<v Speaker 2>who's sort of still traveled. He's still around, I think

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<v Speaker 2>what missoo Miami, Michigan, somewhere in that range of teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple names floating around in terms of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>pure depth plays who knows, but yeah, Brendon soarsby onto

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<v Speaker 2>the supplemental draft, Texas Tech onto a now thinned quarterback room.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably best for all parties to just

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<v Speaker 3>sort of go this route.

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<v Speaker 2>It's that seemed the way for me, especially because look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many much schools were going to

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<v Speaker 2>actually cancel matchups in various sports with Texas Tech. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say Michigan Volleyball did. That was the one

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<v Speaker 2>I saw. Michigan Volleyball had canceled a matchup against Texas Tech.

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<v Speaker 2>But Texas Tech, I don't think was even if they

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<v Speaker 2>put out that as you called it episode one of

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<v Speaker 2>that podcast, I don't think they truly want to be

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<v Speaker 2>seen as a villainous enterprise that you know, everybody argues

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<v Speaker 2>about everything, but then having the fan bases of one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty seven teams look at Texas Tech as

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<v Speaker 2>the downfall of Western civilization. I don't think as much

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<v Speaker 2>as they've tried to say the right things, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think the university is fully comfortable positioning itself in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>No. I mean, so the twenty minute and two second podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>i'll call it that that they posted via their official

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<v Speaker 3>social media channels like a week ago. That was some

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<v Speaker 3>creative wording. That was a lot of pr speak, And

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<v Speaker 3>even though I kind of side eyed it when I

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<v Speaker 3>watched it, they weren't exactly using language that, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>stirred up that much animosity.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>They were very much trying to take the approach of

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<v Speaker 3>we support the player, we recognize that a gambling addiction

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<v Speaker 3>is a serious thing. We're helping him get the help

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<v Speaker 3>that he needs. We don't want to crush his dreams.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they were trying to position it a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more softly. I don't think most people bought it. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was the greatest defense. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if there was a good defense, but they weren't

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<v Speaker 3>coming at it from the standpoint of trying to promote

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<v Speaker 3>more conflict. It was just sort of I thought, a

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<v Speaker 3>lame excuse Cody Campbell. Though, Cody Campbell, I think he

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<v Speaker 3>put a little bit of a clown nose on himself

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<v Speaker 3>with the way that he has handled this. He was

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<v Speaker 3>much more of a villain throughout this whole process, very

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<v Speaker 3>much defiant, very much took the approach of, hey, if

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<v Speaker 3>he's eligible, we have no choice but to play him

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<v Speaker 3>very much. If you are looking for a reason to

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<v Speaker 3>dunk on Texas Tech, he gave you those reasons with

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<v Speaker 3>how it seems he approached this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, he came out with.

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<v Speaker 3>Another statement, and I think that was a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more softly worded. But at least initially, he was very

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<v Speaker 3>much the target of much animosity out there around college athletics,

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<v Speaker 3>which is interesting given the fact that Cody Campbell has

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<v Speaker 3>very much been in the limelight for other reasons against

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<v Speaker 3>other conferences and super leagues and media rights and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all all these things kind of worming their way through Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a bit of a one to eighty

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<v Speaker 3>for him as well, just in terms of a pr

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<v Speaker 3>image and his Q.

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<v Speaker 1>Rating, if you want to call it that.

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<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, like I think all of that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>looks bad, but the Cody Campbell side of it, to

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<v Speaker 3>me was what really stuck in my craw as Like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he positions himself as the good guy in one light,

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<v Speaker 3>but then this comes about and it's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of question intentions at that point when you

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<v Speaker 3>see some of the other wording.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and obviously he has had some official titles within

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech and has been an advocate obviously for the

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<v Speaker 2>bill that there's an attempt to push through Congress regarding

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<v Speaker 2>changes and you know, hopeful changes to college sports. He does,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems, and I'm I'm totally open to be to

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<v Speaker 2>being corrected here of the big money involved behind the

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<v Speaker 2>scenes at big or semi big places, however you want

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<v Speaker 2>to qualify it. He seems a lot more vocal and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more comfortable pointing to himself as a leader

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<v Speaker 2>of Texas Tech football while not actually being a leader

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<v Speaker 2>of Texas Tech football, or at least the wink wink,

0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.120
<v Speaker 2>nudge nudge kind of leader, right that, Like, we know

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<v Speaker 2>there are big names at many schools behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>but Cody Campbell fashions himself as the scenes. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know whether I obviously Texas Tech fans are into

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of enthusiastic money as they should be, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the name of the game right now, and every

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<v Speaker 2>program would take that kind of commitment. But it's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>different with regard to how Texas Tech is viewed to

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<v Speaker 2>me that they're just this guy saying, yes, I'm in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna buy us an offensive line. Yes, I am

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<v Speaker 2>the guy in charge of this program in as many words,

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<v Speaker 2>and this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what a lot of people seem to want

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<v Speaker 2>out of this sport.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly different, especially when the light has never been

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<v Speaker 2>brighter on Texas Tech and the attention has never been

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<v Speaker 2>sharper on the program.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's where we are.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really, it's a it's a really sterling example

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<v Speaker 2>of where this sport is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm I'm not willing.

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<v Speaker 3>To give people a pass necessarily on this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>On a certain very human level, I kind of understand

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<v Speaker 3>not really knowing how to approach this because it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's atypical. And I hope we don't see more

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<v Speaker 3>of this, but I can just imagine behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of guys looking at each other, like, what

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<v Speaker 3>do we do now? How are we supposed to respond

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<v Speaker 3>to this? You know, what is what is the best

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<v Speaker 3>way to handle it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Hopefully they learn from it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think some of the verbiage that I heard

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<v Speaker 3>was handled all that well, but it seemed as if

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<v Speaker 3>they at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Arrived at a point where they realized this was.

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<v Speaker 3>Untenable and whether whether or not they were hoping to

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<v Speaker 3>crush young Brendan Soresby's dreams or not, this this was

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<v Speaker 3>probably the only outcome that was going to make sense

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<v Speaker 3>in the long term. So I look, by no means

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<v Speaker 3>are we legal experts here, And certainly if you have

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<v Speaker 3>something more to add to the conversation, solid verbal at

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<v Speaker 3>gmail dot com is the best way to reach out

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<v Speaker 3>and let us know your thoughts. I would actually welcome

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<v Speaker 3>too much of the verballer hood to chime in with this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, for for as much fun as I think

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<v Speaker 3>we've had with Texas Tech, and you know, the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of renewed effort to go out there and get high

0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 3>priced talent that is the game now. I know many

0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.640
<v Speaker 3>of the Texas Tech fans that listen to this don't

0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:02.960
<v Speaker 3>always appreciate that, but it's it warn't mentioning. And so

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<v Speaker 3>we bring this up not to dunk on Texas Tech,

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:09.800
<v Speaker 3>certainly not to dunk on Texas Tech or anybody, but

0:19:10.960 --> 0:19:14.440
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's the only newsworthy thing right now, frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>and we had to address it.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, you don't want to talk about Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>getting themselves a five star receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally as we began this show, I don't really don't do.

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<v Speaker 2>I have enjoyed and hopefully this serves as a worthwhile

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<v Speaker 2>transition tie. The whole situation puts Texas Tech fans in

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<v Speaker 2>a really weird spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think so, I think it does.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm I'm actually glad you brought that up because

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<v Speaker 3>that's where I was going to go next with it.

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<v Speaker 1>The fan reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, because when I bring out our email address

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<v Speaker 3>and I tell people, hey, write in, let's know your thoughts,

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<v Speaker 3>I can just judge from the people in our discord

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<v Speaker 3>and the ballers that we've already heard from that they're

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<v Speaker 3>I can I can sense the conflict. Like you're a

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<v Speaker 3>fan of a team, you want your team to do well.

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Texas Tech has clearly got the wind to their back

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<v Speaker 3>to a degree. Now want a conference championship, made the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 3>got a first round.

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<v Speaker 1>By it.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have to talk about what happened in the playoff, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You always want to root for your team, what your

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<v Speaker 3>team do well. This is just sort of snuck up

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<v Speaker 3>on a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>And you want to dig in when you feel as

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<v Speaker 2>if maybe your team is being unfairly villainized. Your program

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<v Speaker 2>is being unfairly villainized that you know, any other program

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<v Speaker 2>would try to do just you know, the same things

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<v Speaker 2>that Texas Tech is trying to do, and both standing

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<v Speaker 2>behind their quarterback and making every effort to get him eligible.

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<v Speaker 2>It puts them in a weird spot where you would

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<v Speaker 2>have to where the school would be the ones to say, look,

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.280
<v Speaker 2>this is an unusual spot, and we're going to air

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of helping him as a human but

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to rock the boat in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>we view eligibility and how we view players wagering on

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<v Speaker 2>their own teams, and you know, hopefully use this for

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<v Speaker 2>good to edge players about, you know, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>the threats and pitfalls of gambling on sports, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>even allowed in your state. If obviously there are NCAA

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<v Speaker 2>rules prohibiting gambling on college football and your team and

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:19.680
<v Speaker 2>so forth, so they could have done that, they decided

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.119
<v Speaker 2>to dig in and support him in his lawsuit. And

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<v Speaker 2>so now there's obviously the I guess perceived unrest between

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech fans and the way they feel like they've

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<v Speaker 2>been mistreated by the Big twelve. I saw a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of references to like, how dare you treat your bell

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>cow of a program like this? Texas Tech has been

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<v Speaker 2>the bell cow for about an hour and a half

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<v Speaker 2>of the Big Twelve. So the emotions are running high,

0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.440
<v Speaker 2>obviously because we're in the moment right now. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I do feel for Texas Tech fans who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they feel this allegiance like we all do for our

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<v Speaker 2>favorite teams, And it would be weird to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I have paid all this money for season tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>merchandise and a generational you know, it's passed down from

0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:07.639
<v Speaker 2>generation to generation, this Texas Tech fandom. But now that

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 2>everybody's villainizing us, I'm going to turn my back on

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:12.080
<v Speaker 2>my favorite program.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know, I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>The understand I understand the conflict there, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think if I were a fan, my first reaction

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 3>would probably be my disgust would be directed at the

0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.399
<v Speaker 3>people who brought sores being in the first place, like

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<v Speaker 3>why didn't they do their homework?

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<v Speaker 1>Now we addressed this on a previous episode.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many guys in the portal, right, there's such

0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.919
<v Speaker 3>a limited window during which you can now actually go

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:39.040
<v Speaker 3>out and get guys to sign with that program, and

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 3>like it's it's so compressed, and nobody has the staffing

0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:45.879
<v Speaker 3>that they need to do PI work on every single

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 3>recruit out there. So of course there are going to

0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.159
<v Speaker 3>be some instances that slip through the cracks. But you know,

0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 3>as a fan, you don't always have that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>organizational perspective. I think that would be my initial reaction, like,

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<v Speaker 3>why didn't they do their homework?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why did they sign up for this? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's fair or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree again, Solid verbal at gmail dot com is

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<v Speaker 3>how you can write in let us know your thoughts

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:13.119
<v Speaker 3>on the matter. I'm sort of glad that we can

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of turn the page on this.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to talk about Texas Tech football without

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:21.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about Brandon sorosby right, and without talking about Sidley Austin.

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'd much rather focus on the particulars of

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.639
<v Speaker 2>players who are there and will be contributing, and I

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 2>think that's more worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it the second half against Utah the Will Hammond game?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe so.

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<v Speaker 2>Will Hammond I think had a lot of the support

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 2>of his offensive line. They were pumped to rally behind him.

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 2>He was I believe the starting quarterback when they did

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<v Speaker 2>lose to Asu last season, so he had sort of

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 2>an up and down time in relief of Baron Morton.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously as his upside, I think is more athletic

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 2>than as a polished passer at this moment, But everybody develops.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know what, Yeah, that would be fine. Sure,

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 3>that would be fine because one I think what they

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.400
<v Speaker 3>were looking for with Sorsby, with somebody who could give

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 3>them a little bit more of a dual threat capability. Well,

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 3>Hammon certainly does. Now he's recovering from pretty serious injury.

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.560
<v Speaker 3>So his mobility will have to wait and see on

0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 3>that front and find out what his health status is

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 3>as we get a little bit closer to the season.

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 3>But he does bring that to the table, and maybe

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.960
<v Speaker 3>giving him more first team reps will help him sort

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<v Speaker 3>of catapult his skills forward. And you know, if you

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.080
<v Speaker 3>can get to the Baron Morton level and then a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more, I think Texas Tech is all the

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 3>better for it. Secondly, and I know this has sort

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<v Speaker 3>of flown under the radar a little bit. I know

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about it here time and again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>totally convinced that Brendan Sorsby was like a slam dunk

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 3>just as a corn as a quarterback, you know, probably

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 3>better than what they had. Yeah, I mean, definitely a

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 3>different type of quarterback than what they had. But I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like a big part of the conversation with respect

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<v Speaker 3>to the transfer portal as we get into preview season

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<v Speaker 3>talking about guys that move to new teams, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>always know who's gonna hit, and they don't always hit.

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.800
<v Speaker 3>Even big name quarterbacks don't hit. I'm not certain that

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<v Speaker 3>Sorsby would have been that dude, even if he gave

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<v Speaker 3>them a little bit more in terms of physical tools.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, Brendon Sarsby, it seems would have.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>And they brought in some receivers in the portal this cycle,

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>but it seemed like he would have a better offensive

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>mind behind him, probably a better offensive line in front

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 2>of him, perhaps deeper, more interesting receivers to throw to,

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and without question, seemingly a better defense to support him

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>in the offense's efforts. And so it seems like he

0:25:58.240 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 2>would have been put in a much better posiosition to

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<v Speaker 2>succeed than the position he was in in Cincinnati. So

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<v Speaker 2>nothing's as slam dunk. But it seems like he was,

0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>in terms of that roster and the coaching staff, in

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.199
<v Speaker 2>a better position to thrive than he was at Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So that is the news. Brandon Sores bes

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be playing college football this year. Brendon

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Soars be taking his talents to the NFL. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what happens on that front. Very curious to see if

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.719
<v Speaker 2>anybody takes a risk on soores be now given all

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>this news, but or knows there are plenty of teams

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL that need quarterbacks. Maybe one of them

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 2>will take a fly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw he was being looked at as a Jackson

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<v Speaker 2>Dart type, athletic and fearless. And you know, hasn't had

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<v Speaker 2>the best novembers. I don't believe. But their schedule has

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 2>gotten tougher there, and I don't know, Jackson Dart wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>perfect Pross.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm not telling you he is of equal quality.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying the style of his game. If you were

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 2>to make a co that's what he was. Are we

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>pretending to make that Dart? Make that pump was Jackson Dart?

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Lighting the NFL on fire.

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Jackson Dart was pretty good last year. He was pretty

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>good last year as a rookie, ok with nobody around him. Okay,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>also true, I don't know if I draw that comparison,

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but okay, fair enough, listen, fair enough, wish and well,

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.400
<v Speaker 1>hope he gets the help he needs. Hope he's able

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to go on and prosper Dan.

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 3>Let's take while we can here in the middle of June,

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 3>before previous season heats up. Let's take this occasion to

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 3>open up the window and peer into the fan bases

0:27:39.040 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 3>around college football. You may recall our good friends out

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 3>at message board Geniuses. You can follow them on Twitter

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:57.959
<v Speaker 3>at board geniuses. For our money, the best of the

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 3>best out there among college football social media I still

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.719
<v Speaker 3>to this day and we have yet to bring them

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 3>on the show, or go on their show or anything.

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 3>We do need to have a conversation at some point

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.720
<v Speaker 3>about how they manage this, because what they're doing is

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 3>God's work. Frankly, yes, poor Geniuses has a portal into

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 3>all of the weirdest message board postings around college football.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 3>From time to time, whenever you or I feel the need,

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 3>we peruse their social media account and we pick out

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>some of our favorite screenshots to discuss here.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So these are not ours. They do the hard work,

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>unlike some others. Hard work. Unlike some others on social media,

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>we do it command shift for is that what it

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.080
<v Speaker 1>is on a mac? I think that's what And then

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you just have to drag the little handles. Yeah, you

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.480
<v Speaker 1>have to drag, of course. But somebody's doing that work,

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>or somebody's doing.

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>It, somebody's getting receiving tips from the message board dungeons.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>So credit where it's due.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 3>Unlike some social media, we like to pay homage to

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 3>the people doing the work here.

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 1>This is true.

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 2>I would look if you were to tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>an art gallery in my area was having a message

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>board genius exhibition. Yes, I would be in line to

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>that opening night premiere having the you know, little the

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>toothpicks with little cubes of cheese. I would be an art.

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Appreciator and thnosur aficionado. How about a patron.

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I would be a patron of the arts if there

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>were a message board geniuses exhibition at a gallery near me.

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>Let's keep it real here and let's continue talking about

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Texas tech. This was a post that was surfaced by

0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>our friends at MBG. The title was ACC time, Here

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>we Go, Here we Go? Where's my sound? Just waiting

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.160
<v Speaker 3>for Cody to buy us into the ACC asap. We

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 3>even have our own travel buddy. I bet we could

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 3>bring the Zonas in Kansas, Kansas with us too. It's

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 3>really funny that this post came to light because I'm

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna be honest, this is my first thought. My first

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 3>thought when I saw that the Big Twelve was banding

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 3>together against Texas Tech, I was like, you know what,

0:30:18.720 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 3>conference realignment over the last five years granted a lot

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 3>based on money, but much of it has seemed rather illogical.

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't be completely illogical for Texas Tech and the

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>moneymen behind it to like have a vendetta against the

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Big Twelve because of how it felt. How they felt

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 3>it was collusion, as Cody Campbell put it, and to

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 3>try and see if they could find an exit over

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 3>into another conference, whatever that might be. So I actually

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 3>saw this and I was like, you know what, it's funny.

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.479
<v Speaker 3>I also completely get it.

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's also funny because the ACC itself and

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>its long term prospects are sort of We did a

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>teeter episode Teetering teams. ACC is teetering on the brink,

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>and if they're being looked at as the dream destination

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 2>to show the Big twelve, that's not great. That's not

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 2>like exactly Valhalla right now with the lawsuits that now

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>are settled between Florida State and Clemson and stuff.

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>But it is.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>It is pretty funny that the ACC, which had to

0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>in a Hail Mary football term add cal and Stanford

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 2>and SMU, is looked at as the safe dream state

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>of Texas Tech.

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, that's great. That's where they that's

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>where they've landed.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they'd easily be the second best team in

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 3>the ACC they were to move over this year.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>They're not going to move over this year. I know that.

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 3>But right, so much of the conversation right not ACC

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 3>has been who's who's in that next tier down from Miami?

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech would be right there.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think you want to pay the exit

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>fees to just play all due respect. You know, Wake

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Forest and Syracuse and Georgia Tech like it. You got

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to be paying money to get to big ten SEC.

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure the a SEC is that destination.

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Continue speaking of the ACC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my favorite fan base right now is Florida State.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>They're in a tough spot for Florida.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>State's in a tough spot. Quote, I should hope Florida

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 3>State is from war Chant are friends of our war Chant?

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I should hope Florida State is investing three hundred to

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 3>four hundred thousand per year, of course on a private

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 3>eye to check Mike Norvel's activities. If they managed to

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 3>dig something up that warranted firing for cause, that would

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 3>be a fantastic one hundred x ROI business term. Dan.

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's down bad and then there's down bad.

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean the next post here on the list is

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>titled what if we just move down to FCS. This

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 3>is the state of play right now in the Florida

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 3>State world.

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Florida saying, didn't our friend Bud Elliott he doesn't

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>do his Florida State show anymore because the entire ecosystem,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 2>not ecosystem, the entirety of the Florida State short term

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 2>outlook was too much of a bummer that they felt

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>like their show would be too much of a bummer.

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, if I was reading that correctly.

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I'm paraphrasing here. I remember when Bud posted

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 3>about it. Yeah, but like really good friend of the show.

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Bud haven't talked to him in forever, but I obviously

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.719
<v Speaker 3>very good at what he does and a Florida state person.

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, we put a lot into this show,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 3>and it became apparent that we're putting more into this

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>show than the football program, or then the administrators are

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 3>putting into the football program something like that. And so

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.360
<v Speaker 3>until that seems a little bit more imbalance, we're going

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>to like evaluate how often we.

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Do this thing? Right?

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's a just downbat across the board and

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>hope for the hope for the Florida State in all

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 2>of our lives that they can become competitive soon.

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Lsu I like this one.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Yes, there seems to be concern that Lane Kiffin has

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 3>yet to buy a house mm in Baton Rouge, someone

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 3>says this has been concern of mine too. Him not

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.319
<v Speaker 3>buying a house says a lot about what his intentions are.

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Yet, Oh are you?

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you questioning the accountability and seriousness of Lane Kiffin's

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>commitment to literally anything.

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not the poster here is the right look.

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Everybody eventually talks themselves into and out of Lane Kiffin. Right,

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.759
<v Speaker 2>that's just the gig of rooting for a team that

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>has aligned itself with Lane Kiffin. I don't think this

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 2>is an appropriate reaction right now, because you got he's

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>got a lot on his plate, right. He jumped into

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 2>the program and has been recruiting NonStop, also finding new

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 2>players and hitting the portal, hitting boosters, doing everything he

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>can to get this LSU team seemingly to the point

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 2>that they can compete for a national championship sooner rather

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 2>than later.

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's a lot on his plate, and a

0:35:16.840 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>lot of these guys are, you know, living out of

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>hotels and renting before they actually buy a house. I

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>think this is likely jumping the gun. But here we

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>are in June, and you got to be worried about something.

0:35:29.239 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of jumping the gun, if you are an LSU fan,

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 3>what is your expectation.

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Mindful of the fact that we haven't done to buy

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>a house, my expectation is that he buys a house. Okay,

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>what about the football team? What about it? Because listen,

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I you know, they made.

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Headlines all across the board by going out and getting Kiffin,

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.280
<v Speaker 3>and it was a guy they wanted.

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Clearly, there's a commitment to spend.

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a bit of a circus, but

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I think you sign up for that when you go

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 3>for lane. But realistically, realistically, this is a team of transfers.

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Realistically, this is.

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 3>A situation where the schedule is always going to be

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 3>the gounlet sec And realistically, I don't know if anything

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 3>over nine to three based on what I've seen, at

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.480
<v Speaker 3>least initially when I'm doing my homework, I don't know

0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 3>if anything.

0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Over that is like a truly realistic expectation. Doesn't mean

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>they can't get there.

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't mean they won't get there because they have a

0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of good players, right. But I'm just wondering what

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 3>the cutoff is if you are a fan of the

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 3>team they get to let's say they finish eight and four,

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 3>what is the reaction from the fan base to that.

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>I think usually speaking, obviously they're spending like they want

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:48.839
<v Speaker 2>to win a national championship in year one. I think,

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>generally speaking, if you were to eliminate the most irrational

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 2>fans on either side of the spectrum, the hope for

0:36:55.560 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>a new coach is that they can plainly see what

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 2>needs to be addressed in terms of what needs to

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 2>be improved, and that there is a good faith effort

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>if everybody's healthy, to double down in LSU's case, on

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 2>whatever it is finishing the game, obviously the offense and

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the running game last year. The offensive line has been

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of a nightmare recently. That if you see relatively

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 2>early returns that the obvious things that needed to be

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 2>fixed have been fixed or are on the path to

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 2>being fixed, then you're pretty excited because you know that

0:37:27.440 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 2>with the talent level on this roster, if you don't

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:34.319
<v Speaker 2>do anything really, really poorly, LSU is going to win

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 2>a ton of games. There's just always going to be

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 2>that level of talent there on a national championship level

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 2>tbd this year. But right if the offensive line clearly

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>looks better, or that the offense is shape shifted in

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 2>such a way where the offensive line doesn't need to

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 2>be perfect, if they're playing tempo, if they're getting the

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 2>ball out quickly, if they're creative about how to get

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 2>the running game out to the perimeter, whatever it is,

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>so that you're not counting on having an NFL offensive line,

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that I think people are gonna be pumped right that

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you sort of enhanced strengths and mask weaknesses in a

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 2>way that helps you win SEC games. I think that's

0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 2>the expectation, a limiting, eliminating the you know, either side

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 2>of the most extreme spectrum of just like, hey, this

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>is too much, this is too soon, this they're never

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 2>going to be able to fix it, or you know,

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 2>all is better and fixed now that Lane Kiffin is

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 2>in town. I think that's the expectation that's reasonable to

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 2>have about Lane Kiffin. That's that's what I have, that

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the obvious, the obvious flaws need to be addressed early

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>and often.

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 3>I just don't think there's a lot of runway and

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 3>no that's what gives me my cause for pause or

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 3>favorite pet charity. You know, Like they've got Clemson at

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 3>home to open up in Week one, they should be

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 3>better than Clemson. Clemson I think has bigger questions than

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 3>LSU at this point. But Week three on the road

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 3>at all Miss that game is going to be nuts.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Week four home against Texas A and M. Like the

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 3>first half of the year, though many of these games

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 3>are winnable, there are definitely a few potential losses in

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 3>there that I think could sort of be a fly

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 3>in the ointment and then the deeper you get into

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 3>this thing. I mean they close out the year on

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:19.280
<v Speaker 3>the road at Auburn home against Alabama home against Texas

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 3>back to back weeks. Then they're away consecutive games Tennessee

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 3>and Arkansas to close this out. So this is not

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.520
<v Speaker 3>to say it is the toughest schedule in the SEC.

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I think, all things considered, it's spaced out reasonably well.

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 3>But there are a lot of really really good teams

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 3>on this thing, and if it's going to take you

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.839
<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks to kind of get things in order,

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 3>and who knows where Sam Levitt's at right now with

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 3>his recovery from his foot. I mean, he'll be out there,

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 3>but there's just so many new things that need to

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 3>come together. Not everybody's Kurt Signety that can pull it

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.760
<v Speaker 3>together so quickly. I think Kiffen has a track record

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.040
<v Speaker 3>for being able to assimilate a bunch of new pieces

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 3>quickly and obviously have success right away.

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>But this is the added layer of the expectations is

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 1>what I think makes this really interesting. Yeah, I agree.

0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>We got one here from a Washington fan, Dan that

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask you about.

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Okay, this is dog Man m Montlake classic of

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the form.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah Montlake.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.720
<v Speaker 3>Monty says the only way that Oregon gets a recruit

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 3>over you, dub is by paying double nothing else to

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 3>sell recruits on at UOE.

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 2>Sure, Okay, look I on a certain level, I am

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>the wrong narrator here to talk about the Washington fans

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 2>viewpoint on Oregon. Obviously, they look at Oregon with a

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 2>good amount of disdain because of the attention they feel

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>like is unfairly heaped on Oregon and the idea that

0:40:56.280 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Oregon is amassing all this talent that Washington is unable

0:40:59.600 --> 0:41:02.959
<v Speaker 2>to only because of money, only because of the flashiness,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>not because they have anything else to offer. But on

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 2>a certain level, I kind of feel for Washington in

0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>an empathetic way because they've been through it in similar

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>ways to how Organ's been through it, right, losing generational coaches, Right,

0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:20.439
<v Speaker 2>You've Klin de Borr having all this success and leaving

0:41:20.480 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 2>after a couple of years. You have your time High

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:27.479
<v Speaker 2>on the Hog with Chris Peterson and then replacing him

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:31.840
<v Speaker 2>with an absolute disaster of a Jimmy Lake era. They've

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>been through it, and while Organ's also been through it

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 2>with the end of Mark Helfrich and then Willie Taggart

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>Mario Christobaul leaving after some success in going to Miami

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 2>and thriving that Oregon not only found their guy, but

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.479
<v Speaker 2>found their guy who isn't leaving at least as of yet.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Whereas that would be something that you could hang your

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 2>hat on as a fan of a team rooting against Oregon,

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 2>that like, oh, it's a stepping stone school or something.

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>And not only does Dan Lanning not take other jobs,

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>but a print shirts with his reasoning for not taking

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.399
<v Speaker 2>other jobs where he says like that the grasses isn't

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.799
<v Speaker 2>always greener on the other side of the tracks, they

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 2>have like these the grass is damn green in Eugene.

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 2>That's they print the shirts. And so Washington fans, from

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>what I can tell, see the energy, see the attention,

0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>see the recruiting, and their response tends to be like well,

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 2>as a university, it's not a more esteemed place.

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:27.359
<v Speaker 1>There's more to do.

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Seattle's a more interesting place than Eugene. Why would anybody

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>choose like the idea that somebody would rather be playing

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 2>for a school that has had more success these past

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 2>couple decades and that has been a more national brand

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 2>these past couple decades while they've been alive is nearly

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>incomprehensible to some Washington fans. And this is the off season,

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>and so these are the things that occupy every every

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 2>fans mind. Why would they choose that school? Our school

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 2>is so much cooler and better, more interesting, and uh

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of feel for man, you know, what is.

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 3>The conversation like on the text thread between you and

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Jeff Schwartz with regard to Oregon and their expectations for

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 3>this coming season.

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 2>He is he is more settled on the like, Uh,

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:22.399
<v Speaker 2>Oregon's gonna win a national championship, not necessarily for this year.

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 2>He was like, it's gonna happen, right, He's just like

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>he is at peace with the idea that Oregon's gonna

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:31.160
<v Speaker 2>win a national championship, that there's too much continuity, that

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the recruiting has been too good, and that you know,

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>there have been bad breaks in his estimation, in the

0:43:38.120 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 2>estimation of Oregon fans some of these seasons where they

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 2>get close but not not all the way there, that

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>this year or one of these years, it's just gonna

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 2>happen because they'll put themselves in a position and when

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the time is right, they will finally capitalize. And look,

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 2>we saw with what Arsenal. They were that team, they

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 2>were that squad. We saw New York pay Arsenal. But okay,

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 2>well they did win a EPL right, they did win

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 2>the New York Knicks.

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Nothing since the seventies, nineteen seventy three has been fifty

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>three years.

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so maybe there is that pixie dust in the

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.959
<v Speaker 2>air for those teams who have gotten close but haven't

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>been able to do it. So I'm I'm too hurt

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 2>to believe fully again, But I'm sure by the time

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the season rolls around, or at least by the time

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, November rolls around, if they're looking very strong,

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I will find myself ready to be hurt again, There's

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it.

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I will close out with this one, Dan, and I

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 3>actually don't want an answer to this, Okay, I don't

0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>need you to answer this.

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, that makes me really want to answer it.

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I know it does.

0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 3>But this one from Auburn Sports from ghost titled how

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 3>many dumps.

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you take per day? You can just leave it there.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Do we think that's construction related? Do we think that's

0:44:56.920 --> 0:45:00.479
<v Speaker 2>like these guys are working on a construction in site

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.479
<v Speaker 2>and maybe we have some backholl loader operators something like that.

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Is that are you at are you a oner? Are

0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you a tour I'm not answering the question. I said,

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want an answer. We do not need to

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>answer this question. Is it we're a human? Do you

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 1>know what theme of the book is?

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Show what's the name of the book for children when

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>they're when we're talking potty training?

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Tie?

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:24.120
<v Speaker 2>I think it's everybody poops, everybody poops, everybody poops?

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Tie?

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, And here's the only thing I'll say, please don't

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.799
<v Speaker 2>in response, Please, we don't need the response. Sometimes three

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>to five is the answer given by Ghost.

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>I think is the user.

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>If it's more than four or five days a week

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that you're taking three to five, please know. I think

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe you reevaluate dietary choices.

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Or it's a lot of fiber.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, it's it's either a lot of fiber.

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Ghost is doing a lot of weightlifting and fiber

0:45:58.040 --> 0:45:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and maybe hit training.

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever done hit training?

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Tie?

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 1>The high intensity. I don't know if that's three to

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>five though.

0:46:04.080 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying there are ways where you can supercharge

0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:13.879
<v Speaker 2>this effort. I have not found myself unless I'm under

0:46:13.920 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 2>the weather or have eaten something.

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't need you to answer time. We're humans. I

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:21.879
<v Speaker 3>understood everybody listening to this knows we're human.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I did.

0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>By the way, not a sponsor could be. I suppose

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I haven't used it yet, though. I was given a

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 2>super charged fermented Japanese green plum, which is apparently like

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:37.479
<v Speaker 2>a performance enhancer for those who might be bloated. And

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had to use it yet. But if you

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:46.080
<v Speaker 2>look online, people are saying this thing is rocket fuel.

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>Great like it it sort of finds caverns in your

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 2>body that an excavation that you didn't even know were there.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Like you know when you know when the National Geographic

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:03.280
<v Speaker 2>discovers the islands with inhabitants that have never seen modern

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.640
<v Speaker 2>man kind of their modern technology, and they always just

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.000
<v Speaker 2>end up killing them, right, like, yeah, we went to

0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 2>this island, so the people that they got murdered. I

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 2>think this fermented Japanese green plum is doing that with

0:47:16.200 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 2>your inner workings. They're discovering, they're discovering lands that even

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Magellan didn't have the wherewithal to find. So on that note, yeah,

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll report back if and when right at the top

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 2>of a show.

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, you should do it. You should. You should

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>eat it or whatever, drink it. Whatever.

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a tiny it's like the size of maybe like

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 2>a very big like it's smaller than a golf ball,

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 2>smaller than like a standard large plum or whatever. It's

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 2>not small and it's small enough though that it's weird

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 2>where they's like, maybe don't take more than half at

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 2>a time.

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, you need you need to down that thing and

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.760
<v Speaker 3>then hit record and we'll see how long it takes

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 3>for you to start feeling some grumbles.

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 2>I was told you take it before bed and wake

0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 2>up and drink some warm water and that will that

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 2>should be the timing.

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, but you never know, ty, never know,

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:06.920
<v Speaker 1>never know.

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Uh. Go and follow four geniuses out there on social media.

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Thank you for all the fine work that you guys do.

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 3>We appreciate it. We'll be back next week after I

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 3>returned from my travels to Seattle, Go, USA. Yes, we've

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 3>got previews coming up here in about a month or so.

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>If you've made it this far, God help you, but

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 3>please hit follow or.

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<v Speaker 1>Subscribes that you do not miss any of the episodes.

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 3>If you've got anything to say, Solid verbal at gmail

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:37.759
<v Speaker 3>dot com Dan.

0:48:38.520 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Why only did the fine people go all right, but

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>that guy have their DAN for myself over here, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll catch you all next week meantime, Fays peace,