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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Philly Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Phillies Show, brought to you by Citizens.

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Speaker 2: Ruben Lamar Juniors here, Jim Salisbury. I'm Todds a lucky

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Speaker 2: April fourth, Friday, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Guys, how are we doing?

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Speaker 2: We had our first live show at Citizens Bank Park

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Speaker 2: yesterday with the people from Citizens.

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Speaker 3: It was fun. We had John Milton on.

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Speaker 2: If you guys haven't caught the episode yet, check it

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Speaker 2: out on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Obviously you can check it.

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Speaker 2: Out on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, wherever. But I thought it

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Speaker 2: was We had a lot of fun first of all.

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Speaker 2: And then of course talking to John is always super interesting.

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Speaker 4: No question.

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Speaker 5: He's a you know, he's very upfront. He's a good storyteller.

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Speaker 5: He's got that story you know about sitting with Roy

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Speaker 5: Halliday's dad years ago and was really good. And you know,

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Speaker 5: his will to win just you know, it shines. It

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Speaker 5: comes out all the time. And you know, I asked

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Speaker 5: him because people ask me all the time. You know,

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Speaker 5: you got a huge payroll, but are you going to

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Speaker 5: have the flexibility to do what you need to do

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Speaker 5: with the trade deadline, and he says absolutely whatever Dave

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Speaker 5: Dobroski needs to do. So if you're a Phillies fan,

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Speaker 5: that is good to hear.

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Speaker 4: The guy is very committed.

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Speaker 6: He's super passionate about wanting to win. There's no question

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Speaker 6: about it.

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Speaker 4: That's not a show. He's very passionate about it.

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Speaker 6: He was always passionate when he was one of my bosses,

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Speaker 6: of course, And you know, you can tell that he

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Speaker 6: demands excellence. He demands it, and he demands that people

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Speaker 6: be accountable. I mean, the most accountable person I've ever

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Speaker 6: probably Chase Utley was the other one.

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Speaker 3: And I think that.

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Speaker 6: You know, his story about royality and being accountable for

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Speaker 6: being the best he could possibly be. We sort of

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Speaker 6: Zach Wheeler. I see that, as you know, sort of

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Speaker 6: club and a guy like Kyle Schwarber, for instance, who

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Speaker 6: about his offensive thought process and you know, really moved

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Speaker 6: the numbers last year. So these are the types of

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Speaker 6: players he likes to have, and he's going to have

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Speaker 6: some tough decisions. I think Todd asked the question about

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Speaker 6: these really good free agents coming up, and you know,

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Speaker 6: there's some people there that he really likes personally, and

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Speaker 6: I think you're important to the organization. JT and Kyle

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Speaker 6: Schwarber in particular. I think that they sort of live

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Speaker 6: up to what his expectation of easeball players should be.

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Speaker 6: And he's going to have some really tough decisions, man,

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Speaker 6: you know, during the course of this year and perhaps

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Speaker 5: It's one of the big reasons this is such a

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Speaker 5: huge year on this team's winning curve because so many

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Speaker 5: important guys are going to reach free agency. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know if anybody with the team would admit this,

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Speaker 5: but I feel like they need in case they don't

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Speaker 5: change the mix, they need to have the ability to

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Speaker 5: do that, keep their options open. So they may weigh

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Speaker 5: up weight out on these free agents and not make

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Speaker 5: decisions until the offseason. But I mean, we're ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 5: This is a good team. They're five and one, they're

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Speaker 5: starting pitching has been tremendous and big weekend on the horizon.

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Speaker 5: But you know, coming off a nice sweep of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean ta Taiwan Walker pitched very well today. Yes,

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Speaker 2: in the series finale on Thursday. Six scoreless innings, four strikeouts,

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Speaker 3: This man's life.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he comes into spring training, he's

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Speaker 3: He comes back, replaces Spencer Turnbull.

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Speaker 2: Remember Spencer Turnbull, He had like a one to six

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Speaker 2: He doesn't make the postseason roster. You know, we were

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Speaker 2: You know, do you bring him into camp? Will it

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Speaker 3: Or is that just talk?

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Speaker 2: And then he actually comes back in the spring, and

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Speaker 2: three season when he didn't pitch in the postseason, you know,

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Speaker 2: he gets booed in his last two Great Through League starts.

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Speaker 2: Day, and then he gets booed again, you know, at

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Speaker 3: And then he goes out and pitches great today. And

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Speaker 3: I thought it was really cool.

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Speaker 4: Jim.

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Speaker 2: You were there when he said, Hey, man, you know,

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Speaker 2: I got a lot of text from my mom after

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Speaker 4: She was there.

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Speaker 3: She was there. Yeah, his mom was at.

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Speaker 2: The game, flew in from Arizona, and she was crying

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Speaker 2: And somebody asked, like, when was the last time your

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Speaker 2: when I was getting booed. Yeah, last year here. So

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Speaker 2: that really kind of humanizes these guys. You know, people

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Speaker 3: But man, it's it's I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, rubin, you know, it's it's can be a brutally

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Speaker 2: cool to see Taiwan Thursday pitch well and kind of

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 6: And there were times in nineteen ninety two when I

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Speaker 6: It's tough, I mean, and people say, well, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's not necessarily you know, money is important, but these

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Speaker 4: Man, he's been through it a little bit.

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Speaker 6: And you know, there are a lot of players over

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Speaker 6: then sort of been on their way, and they take

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Speaker 6: a lot of heat for it. But the fact that

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Speaker 4: Is it sustainable?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, right, but the fact that he has

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Speaker 6: separation with the split, all those things were there. I

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Speaker 6: don't know if he can do that for thirty starts

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a really great human story.

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Speaker 5: Today that you know, I was actually a little touched

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Speaker 5: by it, to be honest with you, hearing that his

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Speaker 5: He here's a guy who's been you know, he's he's

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Speaker 5: he's heard it in Philadelphia, and to my analogy, he's

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Speaker 5: never really I'm going to say, he's never bitched and

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Speaker 5: And he flat out said today, I think Destiny Legardo.

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Speaker 5: I thought she asked him a great question about you know,

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Speaker 5: how much is the booing.

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Speaker 2: Worn on you?

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Speaker 5: And he admitted that, yeah, it wears on you, but

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Speaker 5: He had it didn't turtle by being booed on an

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Speaker 5: And one thing I saw in his start Thursday, his

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Speaker 4: But he kept his team in the game.

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Speaker 5: And last year there were times I could swear I

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Speaker 5: almost saw a defeatist posture in the guys on the

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Speaker 5: like an only you know, they had this feeling of

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Speaker 4: They rallied late. They rallied late.

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Speaker 5: Big hit by Bryce Harper, a humungo bombed by Kyle

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Speaker 5: Schwarmer to help, you know, make Taiwan Walker's day and

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Speaker 5: the field, so hats off to him. It was a really,

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Speaker 5: it was a really it was a great day at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool.

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Speaker 2: You talk, do you guys talk about the human element

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Speaker 2: of it? And now you're right, Jim tay was a

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Speaker 2: great human story baseball story. So yeah, we don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we'll find out. You know, he's probably gonna pitch next week.

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Speaker 2: His next start will be next week in Atlanta. We'll

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Speaker 2: so you know, he certainly put himself in a much

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Speaker 3: So uh, the Dodgers, the Dodgers come into town.

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Speaker 5: You know, I I wouldn't call it a big test.

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Speaker 6: And I think, as far as you knows, being somewhat

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Speaker 2: Guys, let's talk money, Money moves. Citizens' Money Moves are

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Speaker 2: Official Bank of the Phillies. Guys, I'm thinking of moves

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Speaker 2: money moves in baseball this past week, and I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: with torpedo bats.

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Speaker 3: Great call torpedo bats.

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Speaker 2: Baby damn the torpedoes they're coming, They're coming. Just it's

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Speaker 2: really kind of cool how that that the torpedo bat

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: Well, I say that because we're gonna play you. In

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Speaker 3: After a we're about a weekend of torpedo bats.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a perfect Citizens money move because nobody

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Speaker 4: You know they're moving it and whatnot.

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Speaker 5: But he explains what this bat is and the Yankees

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Speaker 4: But hey, can't be a bad thing, Matt.

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Speaker 6: It's evolution, evolution, baby, it was.

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Speaker 2: you immediately like asking about give me information on these

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Speaker 2: torpedo bats.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so here we go.

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Speaker 2: Our interview earlier this week with Victis Sports founder and

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Speaker 2: CEO Jared Smith. Thank you for joining The Philly Show

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Speaker 2: with Jim Salisbury. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, this has been I

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Speaker 2: imagine an insane week for you. Can you describe how

446
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Speaker 2: crazy it has been in other words? And specifically when

447
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Speaker 2: did it start to really go nuts? Was it as

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Speaker 2: soon as that Yankees game ended on Saturday? Your texts

449
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Speaker 2: start flowing in?

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Speaker 3: What was that like?

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Speaker 1: It was? Yeah, it was more so when the other

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Speaker 1: teams games ended. The players all started reaching out because

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Speaker 1: they saw the Yankees, they saw the headlines, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys hadn't even heard of it yet, so

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of inquiries just about the explanation

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Speaker 1: and then of course wanting to try it as well,

457
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Speaker 1: so getting some samples out or getting some orders in

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Speaker 1: for some batses.

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Speaker 5: Also crazy man, congratulations, you are the hottest thing in

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Speaker 5: baseball with this torpedo.

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Speaker 4: Bet.

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Speaker 5: I know we were talking to some Phillies players before

463
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Speaker 5: their home opener, and right before the game started you

464
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Speaker 5: were able to personally deliver a shipment and Alec Bowman

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Speaker 5: ended up with one of them, used one of them

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Speaker 5: in the game. I just was wondering if you could

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Speaker 5: kind of take us through the time, maybe from when

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Speaker 5: you get the phone call, maybe from Phil Sheridan or

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Speaker 5: somebody in the clubhouse with the Phillies or Alec himself.

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Speaker 5: What were you racing down the school kill Did you

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Speaker 5: have to fight traffic?

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Speaker 1: Did you do.

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Speaker 5: A handoff on Darien Street out in front of the U,

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Speaker 5: out in front of the stadium.

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Speaker 4: How did you get it there so quick?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So, I mean Monday morning we came in and

477
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Speaker 1: the guys had reached out over the weekend and just

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Speaker 1: kind of asked for some samples with their handles in

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Speaker 1: their model of the torpedoes. So Monday morning we came

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Speaker 1: in and fired them up and ran them down to

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Speaker 1: the ballpark. And you know how traffic is coming from

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Speaker 1: King of Prussia down the Philly so it took us

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Speaker 1: a good hour in ten minutes to get down there,

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Speaker 1: but able to deliver them to the clubhouse. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: right before the game, probably about two o'clock we got there.

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Speaker 1: Game started at three. We saw the guys sitting in

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Speaker 1: the in the vans getting ready to head out the

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Speaker 1: center field there. So it was it was a cool

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Speaker 1: experience again to see Alec really just pull it straight

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Speaker 1: out of the box and game it and then get

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Speaker 1: a knock with it in the second A. B. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's now we're going back. We're kind of finishing some

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Speaker 1: making some additional torpedo designs for them, as far as

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Speaker 1: just actually taking our time and finishing the bats and

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Speaker 1: doing it the way they're used to.

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Speaker 5: Now are you sending when you when somebody from the

497
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Speaker 5: Phillies calls here, let's say Alec or Bryson Stott, whomever,

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Speaker 5: are you actually turning their bat on Monday morning, their

499
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Speaker 5: model bat and racing it down there. Are you going

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Speaker 5: to something stock that resembles their bat?

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Speaker 1: So in this instance, just giving the the scenario, the

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Speaker 1: home opener, in the fact we were going to the game,

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Speaker 1: all of those things kind of combined for us rushing

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Speaker 1: that bat out Monday morning or those bats out just

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Speaker 1: two for each guy for them to try. So in

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Speaker 1: most instances we're about ten to fourteen days turnaround time.

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Speaker 1: But I mean in certain times come playoff time, that's

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Speaker 1: usually one or two day turnaround times. And with stuff

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Speaker 1: like this, when guys really want to see it, we're

510
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Speaker 1: just gonna rush out some nude ones and let them

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Speaker 1: check it out.

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Speaker 5: So you actually turned that bat Monday morning that Alec

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Speaker 5: Baum used?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Wow did you have time to finish it? Did

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Speaker 4: you have time to finish it?

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Speaker 1: No? So that one was nude. So those we didn't

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Speaker 1: do any codings on. They just come out. You still,

519
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: you bone the bats and you send them down there.

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Speaker 1: They hit with them like they used to back back

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Speaker 1: in the old days.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that is awesome. Ruben has joined us. Ruben, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna love this. Jared Smith is with us talking about.

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Speaker 4: Talking about the bats that might have saved your career. Ruben.

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Speaker 3: I never hit the ball on a trademark, man.

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Speaker 1: I was always on the barrel.

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Speaker 4: That's the funny thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm here and all these people saying, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: it's for people who hit the ball in the trademark.

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Speaker 5: If you hit the ball on the trademark you get

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Speaker 5: released on a ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say it's as much the trademark. So

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Speaker 1: I do have one here I can kind of show

534
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Speaker 1: you guys. I mean, you can see where the weights redistributed.

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Speaker 1: We pulled the mass off of the end here and

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Speaker 1: then just kind of transferred into this area. So really

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Speaker 1: the performance zone, and would you know, like metal bats,

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Speaker 1: is what I would say, typically the best performance in

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Speaker 1: the metal bats is gonna be somewhere in this range.

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Speaker 1: And I would bat was always closer to the end

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Speaker 1: right out here is where that sweet spot was if

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Speaker 1: you were so by redistributing the mass, it does move

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Speaker 1: that sweet spot or performance area a little closer to

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Speaker 1: the hands. It's still I mean the labels all the

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Speaker 1: way down here. We're talking performance here versus here. But

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Speaker 1: I mean one inch is a big difference in the

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Speaker 1: game of baseball, and it's something to any edge. You

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00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 1: can help these guys hitting the ball a little closer hand,

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Speaker 1: balancing the bat out a little bit. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: working for some of the guys, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But you are you've taken mass and put put

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Speaker 5: it more into the the barrel. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 5: I'm I can see how putting mass into the barrel

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Speaker 5: would be attractive to a hitter and and maybe increase

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Speaker 5: the force that he connects the or contacts the ball.

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Speaker 5: Impacts the ball, you should say, but how I'm seeing

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Speaker 5: it that it also affects and improves bat speed?

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Speaker 4: How is that?

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Speaker 1: How?

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Speaker 4: Jared?

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Speaker 1: I think the bats just more balanced. So if it

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Speaker 1: improves bat speed, it's probably because it's easier to move.

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Speaker 1: Just from an MI standpoint, it's going to be more balanced.

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Speaker 1: As you move that weight from the end of the

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Speaker 1: bat down towards the hand a little bit, so even

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Speaker 1: though it's the same weight or in some cases even

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Speaker 1: a little heavier, it is easier. We use the term

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Speaker 1: BPI balance point indicator, and when you move that down,

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Speaker 1: it drops the BPI, so it makes it much easier

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Speaker 1: to swing.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the bats, you know, stat Cast tracks all

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Speaker 2: that stuff, and I guess some of the Yankees bat

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Speaker 2: speeds did tick up the guys that.

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Speaker 3: Were using those bats. Do you think I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've dug into those numbers, maybe new some

576
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Speaker 2: of these numbers beforehand. Do you think those things are real?

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Speaker 2: Or is it just too small of a sample size

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I still think my general opinion is that it's

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Speaker 1: still a small sample size and we'll see how it

581
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Speaker 1: all shakes out. But Anthony Volpi also that I know

582
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Speaker 1: he worked his butt off this offseason, so it could

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Speaker 1: have just been one of those things where some of

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Speaker 1: these players that are young guys are getting stronger also

585
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Speaker 1: in the off season and swinging the bat better. So

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Speaker 1: there's a number of things to go into it. But

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Speaker 1: I do think there's certainly something to the performance increase

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Speaker 1: when you when you put the barrel where the guys

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Speaker 1: are actually making contact the most.

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Speaker 7: Jared, has there been a more of a need or

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Speaker 7: a request from players as of late.

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Speaker 6: Is that something that's sort of.

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Speaker 7: Coming in now exponentially or is it still you know,

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Speaker 7: are people still like getting the wait and see mode?

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Speaker 1: No, everybody wants to try it, so right now it's like, hey,

596
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Speaker 1: how quickly can you get me some with my handle

597
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Speaker 1: that swings similar to what I am, But just just

598
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Speaker 1: get me my barrel and take it, take it out

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Speaker 1: of the end, move it that mass down a little

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Speaker 1: bit and send me a torpedo please. And I would say, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Rubbin is probably over half of our players, and between

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Speaker 1: Marouci and Victis there's we got fifty to fifty five

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Speaker 1: percent of the league swinging our bats. So you figure

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Speaker 1: it's almost a quarter of the league just reaching out

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Speaker 1: to us directly asking for samples, asking the try this

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Speaker 1: thing out.

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Speaker 4: Wow, do you see this?

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Speaker 5: I know it's a small sample size, but I mean

609
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Speaker 5: it makes so much sense, and such baseball can be

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Speaker 5: so copycat. Do you see this almost being the predominant

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Speaker 5: bat shape someday? I mean there was I remember when

612
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Speaker 5: all the bats were ash and now they're all maple.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I know there's reasons behind that, but Maple

614
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: has supplanted ash. Could this bad style, you know, takeover

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Speaker 5: for the one we all have seen over the years.

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Speaker 1: I mean possibly. I would just say there's I think

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Speaker 1: we have eight hundred different models in our lathe already,

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Speaker 1: so there's already so many different variations. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: say if this is gonna be the majority or just

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Speaker 1: for a select few. At this point, it's still too

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Speaker 1: early for us to tell, but we're certainly going to

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Speaker 1: be working with the players, working closely with the teams.

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Speaker 1: The teams have the data as far as being able

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Speaker 1: to track exactly where the ball is hitting the back

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Speaker 1: consistently for these guys, so being able to translate that

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Speaker 1: back to us and allowing us to kind of iterate

627
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Speaker 1: off of it, I think will be kind of next steps.

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Speaker 2: And I think you've also said that you don't think

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Speaker 2: this is like one of the questions I've guys, do

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Speaker 2: you think this is a gimmick going to be a

631
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Speaker 2: gimmick where in a few years it fades out and

632
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: you don't think so. I mean, I remember years they

633
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Speaker 2: had the axe handles and the hockey puck handles on

634
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Speaker 2: the bats, and those seem kind of like those things

635
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Speaker 2: kind of come and go.

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Speaker 1: But well, you say that, but lukis still crushing it

637
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: with the ax handle springer those guys, and gold Schmid

638
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: still rocking the puck now. But so, I mean, the

639
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Speaker 1: guys they've won MVP with these things too. I think

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Speaker 1: this is just something we've been doing things in the

641
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Speaker 1: bat world where we've been innovating and working with these

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Speaker 1: professional players in a meaningful way really for the last

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Speaker 1: five six years, and I think there's just not a

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Speaker 1: lot of light shed on it, quite honestly, And I

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Speaker 1: think now this with this really getting out there, and

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Speaker 1: there's guys like I never could have anticipated. I think

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Speaker 1: people are just starting to realize really what's been going

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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes now for a little while.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to get too technical, but as far

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Speaker 6: as the machinery is construed, now, do you have to

651
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Speaker 6: reprogram everything now or is it something that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, do you have to change your machinery completely

653
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Speaker 7: to be able to, you know, provide these these new

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Speaker 7: types of shapes of bats.

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Speaker 1: It is a programming thing, like you said. So for us,

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Speaker 1: our C and C machines, we're actually able to take

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Speaker 1: the volume, maintain the same volume so it doesn't change

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Speaker 1: the density, and then reconstruct the barrel shape based off

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Speaker 1: of keeping the handle the same, the taper area generally

660
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Speaker 1: the same, maybe change that a little bit, but then

661
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: taking that volume from the end of the bat and

662
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: moving it into that hitting area. So for us, it's

663
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: it's literally taking their model and then just moving that

664
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Speaker 1: extra weight into where they make contact the most. And

665
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean so far see like we did it. We

666
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: went and were hitting ourselves in the cage with them

667
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: the other day, and just by own personal experience too,

668
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Speaker 1: I mean it feels incredible. Those mishits towards the label

669
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: are performing way better than they ever had. You you know, Reuven,

670
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: Like when you get hit down there and would that

671
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: ball is going maybe to the track, but probably in

672
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: front of it, it just doesn't feel right. But now

673
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: that it feels right and it's going over the wall,

674
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, it's a whole different feeling that

675
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: I've ever had with Hitten with the wood back before.

676
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: Pretty fascinating stuff, man, very cool.

677
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: It's really fascinating. Do you see could this technology be

678
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 5: used on an aluminum bat or a composite or you

679
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 5: know the stuff that Amate's using.

680
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, that's something that So we've been working with

681
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: the Yankees since spring training of last year on this

682
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: torpedo design, if you will, a bowling pin that all

683
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: the different names you've had for it. So we actually

684
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: have already tested some metal bats. We had tested them

685
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: a few months ago. It was something we weren't rushing

686
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Speaker 1: along because we were in the testing phase. But now

687
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Speaker 1: that this has really hit the market the way that

688
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Speaker 1: it has, I think it will be something that you

689
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: see comes to market in a metal bat. I would

690
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: assume sometime in the next few months.

691
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Speaker 5: I'm wondering, like, you know, because it's such a hot

692
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: item and it's such a big story, Like what's like

693
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 5: the youngest age kid you've heard from, wondering if you

694
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: can get one.

695
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: We've had a lot of youth requests already, so you're

696
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: talking eight nine year olds. We actually just had three

697
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: gentlemen in here, buddies, uh said. They were all seventy plus,

698
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: and they came in literally like I gotta try this

699
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: thing out. They went into the bad signed the waiver,

700
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: went to the batting cage, and took some hacks with it.

701
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: And I mean just their feedback. I love hearing it.

702
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: I love seeing guys that played the game for such

703
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: a long time and just their fascination with the performance

704
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: change being closer to the hands in that way. There's

705
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: certain guys, I mean, they're like, man, if I had this,

706
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, it just it gets the imagination going. Wow.

707
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 6: I can't wait for you guys to be breaking it

708
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 6: out for our slug ball stuff.

709
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, we're in.

710
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 6: Right on, bro.

711
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 4: That's gonna be awesome, Jared.

712
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they went on sale on your

713
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: website right like they're they're available for people to buy

714
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: had they sold out, I mean, like, what's how was

715
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: that going for you?

716
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we launched them on Monday, and it was

717
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: the most popular bat we've had in the first twenty

718
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: fourth I mean first forty eight seventy two hours. You

719
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: can keep adding up the numbers. It's been the most

720
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: popular drop we've had since we've been making bats in

721
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: fourteen years, so it is the interest is truly there.

722
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: And then for us, we offered three versions. The versions

723
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: do have different barrels, so different sweet spot areas, different

724
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: handles on them, so there will be different variations of these.

725
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: And I think it's something too, the education for the

726
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: general republics just getting started. I think we're going to

727
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: start seeing that there's a lot of smart people out

728
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: there now that people are thinking about it. You're going

729
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: to start seeing a lot of different versions of this,

730
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: and certainly we're working on that on our end.

731
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: So just for people that don't know Phillies players that

732
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: use Victis bats as our Bryce Harper, Bryce and Scott

733
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 2: Alec Bohm, who am I missing anybody else?

734
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Marsh and Kepler, Marsha Summons and Stubby. So yeah, we

735
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: got a lot of the guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's awesome. And then so I'm going to go

737
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: back to the very beginning when you see you're driving down,

738
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: did you actually drive your car into the into the

739
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: player a lot to drop these off? Did? Was there

740
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: an exchange on Darien Street with Phil Shirt and the

741
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: Phillies equipment manager?

742
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: How did that exactly go down?

743
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: We're fortunate enough now that we have a great relationship

744
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: and we being the official bats of Major League Baseball

745
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: now we have access to drop them off to Phil

746
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: at the clubhouse. So yeah, we went down, went down,

747
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: walked through the tunnel and just dropped them off right

748
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: with Phil. Then he got them in the player's locker

749
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: and I guess when they came in from centerfield, boom

750
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: came in, grabbed it out of his locker and just

751
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: went right to the dish with it.

752
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: Great.

753
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: That is awesome. That is awesome. Did is any of this?

754
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, this kind might sound weird, but has any

755
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: of this caught you by surprise on how big it

756
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: has gotten in just the past week and how like

757
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: everybody is talking about torpedo bats?

758
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've never again, We've we've done things

759
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: like the pencil bat that went viral, like We've We've

760
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: had our moments over the years, Harper when we won

761
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: the home run derby back in DC, like that stuff

762
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 1: for us, we're big moments, but nothing like this to

763
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: where it's out there. I mean when when my wife's

764
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: co work and everybody else, like I got buddies that

765
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: I played ball with in high school text me for

766
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: a first time in twenty years. Like things like that

767
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: that you just you realize how much this is penetrated. Honestly,

768
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: I think it's great for the game more than anything,

769
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Like people are talking about baseball. It gets people that

770
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: haven't thought about a baseball batter hitting, like, hey, I

771
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: want to try this thing, Like I'm interested in going

772
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: out there. I think you're gonna see a little uptick

773
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: in men's league even like That's That's the sort of

774
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 1: stuff that excites me is that it gets people talking

775
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: about baseball at the start of the season and getting

776
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: them locked in on their local teams.

777
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure I know you mentioned how hard Anthony Volpi works,

778
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 5: and he's a tremendous ballplayer and all credit to him,

779
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 5: but when he has a day like he had with

780
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 5: your baby in his hand, you know, are you pinching

781
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: yourself a little.

782
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: Bit of course, man, Yeah, absolutely, I mean, just go

783
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: go talk about Bulp. He's been coming to Victa since

784
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: he's thirteen years old. Him and his dad make a

785
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: trip down every year at least once. And to see

786
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: him go from the little kid from New Jersey that

787
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: being the short stop the Yankees is incredible and honouly

788
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: just working with Harper from the DC days up until now,

789
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: and then he hits the home runs in the playoffs,

790
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: like being in the stands for that mccollor's home run

791
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: the first pitch, like things like that. It's just, yeah,

792
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: I pinch myself all the time just thinking how fortunate

793
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: we are and just how blessed them to be a

794
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: part of the game. Quite honestly, you could be.

795
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 4: You could be part of baseball history.

796
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, once upon a time, going way back,

797
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: I'm a big hockey fan. Stan mckita and Bobby Hall

798
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 5: invented the curve stick, and now you don't even hear

799
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 5: of a straight stick. I mean, you could be the

800
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 5: Stan mckeeday and Bobby Hall of baseball.

801
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: It's possible.

802
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to think of that too far

803
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: in advance, but yeah, I mean For me, it's again,

804
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be a part of it. Like

805
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: seeing our bats on field the way we do, going

806
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: up to the Hall of Fame, seeing our bats in there,

807
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: and feeling like you're really making a difference and innovating

808
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: within the sport, whether it's our cool custom stuff or

809
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: the actual designs of the bats. It's yeah, it's a

810
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: blessing man, and that's why we have a great staff here.

811
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: Y about sixty people at Victis. We're all baseball fans.

812
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we enjoy the sport

813
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: and I think it's what makes us passionate about our

814
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: jobs too.

815
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Thanks Jared for the time.

816
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming on and talking about the torpedo bat,

817
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 2: bowling pin bat, what everybody wants, what everybody wants to.

818
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: Call it, I guess, but it's a torpedo bat.

819
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 1: This was one more question. What'd you shoot?

820
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: Rub shot right around in eighty two?

821
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: Not bad, not pretty yod ear season We'll take pretty well.

822
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 6: I don't have a FicT this golf clubs, but we'll

823
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 6: get you a father something for me for that.

824
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: That'd be great too.

825
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: Thank you.

826
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

827
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: Anyway and all curiousness.

828
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 6: Thank you so much for joining us number one, and congratulations.

829
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: Man, this is a really cool thing.

830
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you guys.

831
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 6: I know how passionate you guys are about what you do,

832
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 6: and and you're providing the game with another weapon that

833
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 6: that I think, as Jim said, might go down in history.

834
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: Really cool stuff.

835
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 5: I know you've had a crazy week. Thank you for

836
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 5: joining us, but I agree with you. It's just great

837
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 5: to hear people buzzing about baseball.

838
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, guys. I appreciate you having me on.

839
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Speaker 3: Thanks to Jared for the time. That was a lot

840
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Speaker 3: of fun. Guys.

841
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: If you and.

842
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: Gals, Guys and gals, if you like the Philly Show,

843
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 2: you can support us by getting your own Phillies Show

844
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,600
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845
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: maroon right now. We've got a lot of powder blues.

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847
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848
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849
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Speaker 2: Talk to you guys next week.

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Speaker 4: Very laated boys, It's my age.

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Speaker 6: Jell