WEBVTT - Camp Buzz: Murray is Vikings QB1, Puka Injury and Spicy Joint Practices 0:00:04.600 --> 0:00:08.000 Welcome to NFL Daily, where we love a quarterback battle 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:08.719 and early. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:09.840 I'm Greg Rosenthal. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.160 I'm here at the Bolt in El Segundo, the Chargers 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.040 training facility where we watched practice on this very Tuesday, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.079 and you're gonna hear our interviews and our takeaways from 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:25.840 Mike McDaniel on Wednesday show. But for now, Jordan, what 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.920 we're doing, Yes, Jordan Rodriguez with me. Hello, We're gonna 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.159 do a little campus might be named Daily Buzz in 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.560 the in the season. That's the one that's the name 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.160 that you wanted. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.400 So what campus is. 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.360 We're just gonna get you up to date on all 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.880 the news around the league. And yeah, like I said, 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:45.479 we'll tell you everything that happened at Chargers camp on 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.160 our next show, and I alluded to it off the top. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.800 Kyler Murray is your Vikings quarterback. I find the timing 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.960 really interesting because it comes off of three or four 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:01.320 days where the general reporting around Kyler Murray and this 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:05.080 Vikings quarterback battle was like, man, it'd be nice if 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.000 Kyler would just take this job, because he actually hasn't 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.440 been playing that well. He's thrown some groaners. JJ McCarthy's 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.959 had his moments, if you just didn't know that much 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.800 between the two of them, even though Kyler's been getting 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.440 way more snaps with the first team, you would say, yeah, 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.600 it's Kyler, but it's kind of either way, like they're 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.200 both struggling. And yet, why do you think Kevin O'Connell 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:32.040 chose this Tuesday to declare it over as we expected 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:33.040 from the beginning? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.400 To me, some of it, I would think has to 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.400 do with preparing for this first preseason game and really 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.200 getting your roster plan ready for that. Who's going to 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.760 play and how much they're going to play, who's not 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.000 going to play, and how much they're not going to play. 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.160 That in itself would be a huge tell and again 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.560 continue to perpetuate the story of this quarterback battle, which 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.040 I don't think that organization really wants at this point, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.640 but it really would be a very very clear indicator 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.600 either way if they hadn't already announced it, when people 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.280 are breathlessly counting preseason snaps and who does what? And 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.720 is Kyler is he even playing? Is he held out? 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.639 And does that mean he's the starter? I think that 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.000 this makes sense to me that for that reason, what 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:17.600 I wish I would have seen is one of the 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.720 two guys, to your point, actually sees this job and 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.240 clearly run away with it. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.240 I do wonder for a team that you're right. I 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.400 think probably does just want this story to go away. 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:31.480 That if anything, it's annoying to hear people being like 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.919 JJ won this day and it's just like, what are 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:34.600 we doing here? 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.240 We know it's going to be Kyler Murray's job. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:40.400 JAJ McCarthy certainly hasn't played well enough to change their mind. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.040 And what Kevin O'Connell said at the podium was it's 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.880 a projection. But now we've seen him in this offense 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.359 despite what people are saying, and these are my words, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:55.480 not Kevin O'Connell's words. Kevin O'Connell said that we think 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.680 he fits this offense. We now know he fits this offense. 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.400 We've seen him fits this off Ultimately, it's like we're 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.800 wasting our time giving first team reps to JJ McCarthy. 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:09.000 I wanted to ask you if you believe Kevin O'Connell 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.520 that JJ McCarthy has a future with the organization. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.720 I think he can say that until the right offer 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.440 comes along, if it ever does. 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.480 What about just like a six round pick or something 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.520 in late August, like basically nothing, but just let's get 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:24.920 rid of it. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.040 I don't really want I don't really that's not really 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.120 my forte is assigning value to people. 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.720 But I really think that, like. 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.959 But he's gonna have to. They're gonna have They're. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:34.280 Gonna have to. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.600 And my thing, to sort of circle back on what 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:39.480 you're talking about there for a second, Greg, is like 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:42.640 they want to install a lot of offense too. You 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.160 can install actually what your offense is gonna That's what 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.840 teams are doing right now the first two weeks of 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.840 training camp. That's all fun and there's fans there and 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.680 it's a really really cool time. This happens right now 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.200 in this like third ish week, right before the first 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.800 preseason game, where you're actually you're not gonna show your 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.400 offense in the preseason, but you're actually uploading your entire 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:06.320 playbook in totality to this offense. And if you're splitting 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.200 reps between two players, you can't actually functionally do that. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.680 And when he says but when he talks about you know, efficiency, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.720 and it just doesn't make sense to keep doing it 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:18.599 this way, Like, yeah, absolutely, I understand that. Do I 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.000 believe that long term, JJ McCarthy is going to be 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:22.160 a part of this Vikings team. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:23.080 No, I don't. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:24.840 I don't believe that, even though I do think there 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.040 are some people in the building who still still want 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.360 to see how to make that work. However, I don't 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:33.080 think they're just going to give this guy away. 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:33.359 Okay. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.320 That's why I ask and when I say a sign 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:37.640 of back, because you're saying if the right value comes along, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.000 I don't know what it is, right, I mean to me, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.640 there's two different types of ways that they would handle it. Sure, 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:46.160 they would trade him for a good draft pick at 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.920 the end of training camp, if someone gave him a 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:52.320 good offer, let's say a future third or something like that. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.520 I find that unlikely to happen. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.320 It's possible, because you know, top top quarterback picks. It happens, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.360 it's pos or do they look at it? And I 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.160 think this is where it could go. That we have 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.400 the backup quarterback in Carson Wentz that we really like. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.520 And I've heard some reporters, including on Purple Daily that 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.320 I listened to, say like Carson Wentz probably played like 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:18.839 the cleanness of like knowing the offense of this camp. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.880 And here we are right, we have our backup in 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.760 Carson Wentz that will take the best offer we can 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.159 get for JJ McCarthy, and that might be a future 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.000 fifth we will find out, and that would be the 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:29.920 last time we hear. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.240 Do it this time of year too, because you if 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.480 you're going to up again insta all your entire offense 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.000 for your starting quarterback, Kyler Murray, you. 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.159 Gotta make sure the vibes are good. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.800 That's star's more what I mean, like to start. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:43.520 Camp, we're not good. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.760 Did not feel good coming from at least one side 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.000 of that that whole operation. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.479 That is more what I mean that they might just 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.720 decide it's not worth the distraction in their minds of 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.160 the questions and let's just rip the band aid off 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.600 and it would be interesting to see who went after him. 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.520 This would be a pretty logical place to do it, 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:07.440 the Los Angeles Chargers, where his former coach has tried 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.720 to rehabilitate a top quarterback pick before, in Trey Lance, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.880 who is here as the backup, but not really lighting 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.080 it up at training camp from what I've heard in general. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.360 So more in this space later. Okay, it's a news 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.800 update show. And unfortunately, at this time of year, A 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.120 lot of the news updates are injury, so we're gonna 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:27.680 go through a lot of the ones I think are 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.480 the most interesting. Pukuinakua goes first because he left the 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:36.120 joint practice between the Rams and the Cowboys on Tuesday 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:40.440 with an injury that Sean McVay didn't want to guess 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.960 what it was, but he left. But it's Pukinakua will 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.239 always keep an eye on that. Miles Garrett also left 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.640 with or didn't practice at all with swelling in his knee. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.640 That doesn't sound great. I'm sure they're being careful. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:53.760 You don't want to throw them out there in a 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.440 joint practice, but just swelling, and he's had some issues 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.360 so far this week. But I bring pukab first because 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:03.520 Adam scheff Or mentioned Puka Akua as one of a 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.880 few NFL players who could face discipline in terms of 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:12.200 a suspension. He also mentioned Josh Jacobs specifically Adam Schefter, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.640 that is, as someone who could still face NFL discipline. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:21.520 This was the most on Front Street that any main 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.280 reporter like that has actually thrown out the possibility that 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:28.360 that Puoka could be suspended by the NFL. If Schefter's 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.200 thrown it out there. I tend to think it's happening, 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.120 and then that is surprising to me because you just 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:34.320 hadn't heard a lot about this. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.760 Yeah, and it's well, it is something the team has 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.840 sort of been bracing with Alerc Jackson as well, their 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:44.400 left tackle, to see they did they didn't know what 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.720 was maybe gonna come or not come. But the fact 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.000 that they were that they didn't know clearly that something 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.680 wouldn't come made me feel like, maybe something will, you know. 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.840 And so that's something absolutely to keep an eye on 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:59.800 right now, less so than than you know, any possible 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.960 injury or anything like that. I mean, this is this 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:07.200 is the big the biggest subplot of the Rams start 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.640 to their season, even more so than the superstar talent 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:10.400 that they have brought in. 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.800 Yeah, keep an eye on this because the NFL generally 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:19.440 announces these suspensions they're a little unpredictable by mid to 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.480 late August, which we're in. Sometimes they've announced it in 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.960 early August, but usually they don't, you know, wait until 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.280 the last week before the season starts. And the Rams 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.160 are starting in Australia. They're not leaving eight days early 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.000 like San Francisco. But I'm sure the Rams would like 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:38.440 to know, and I'm sure Netflix is hoping he's available 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.520 for that game, but Adam Schefter thrown it out there 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.040 makes me think that he might not be out there 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:44.360 for week one. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.679 Usually he at least lobs up the signal you know 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.840 that something's marinating the other. The thing with Miles Garrett, Okay, 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.720 I don't ever want to doubt in. I hope he's 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.520 not injured. I hope he's not. You know, but wouldn't 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.560 it be interesting if you know these two teams they 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.480 want to get some really productive work in right goods 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.560 on goods against an opponent. They want to really see 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.839 defensive structure and offensive structure. Wouldn't that be something maybe 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.200 you talk about with the other coach. Because I was 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.480 just at a Rams practice and Miles Garrett single handedly 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.000 blew it up. So it's like the old Aaron Donald days. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.120 So I'm just I'm just you know, I'm not saying anything. 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:25.079 I'm just wondering. Wouldn't would that be something Cowboys. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.240 Are like, we don't want that smoke. Tyler Geiten's trying 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:28.520 to get build some confidence. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.600 Also, like their defense, the Rams want to see what 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.200 this defense actually could Also look like, you know, without 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.640 I just think like maybe you get your bet your 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:38.600 most functional work done. If if you're a superstar pass 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:43.160 rusher who is absolutely destroying your practice script on days 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.559 he is available like Aaron Donald used to do. I 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.080 don't know I would have that conversation. I'm not saying 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.400 it happened. I'm just I would personally have that conversation 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:53.640 absolutely fair. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.680 And I don't know if Garrett even makes the show 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:56.840 if not for the Pooka connection. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:57.760 But it's interesting. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.319 I love the joint practices out there, and I believe 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.120 there was a report forty nine ers Titans had four 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.040 fights within the first ten minutes of practice. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.360 That's great, that's great for everyone there. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.079 But as I mentioned, Josh Jacobs could be suspended as well, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:15.000 so that's something to watch because he hasn't been healthy either. 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:16.640 He is out for at least another week with a 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.760 knee injury. He is in every other year guy. He 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.480 often gets hurt, so he might not be a guy 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.880 that the Packers can rely on, certainly not if he's 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:29.160 suspended early in the year. Michael Parsons helped to illuminate 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:34.880 his recovery from his knee surgery with our Stacey Dales 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.880 and Brian Baldinger saying that Week six against the Cowboys, 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.520 not so coincidentally, I doubt would possibly be the very 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.719 earliest that Micah Parsons would be back, and wouldn't that 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.160 be delicious? I think that's a Sunday night football game 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.400 if he gears up his rehab to get back for 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.679 that game, but he won't be back until then. According 0:10:54.720 --> 0:11:00.160 to Michaeh Parsons, who this was a delight in terms 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.360 of building up himself with our friends. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.280 And I don't even think it's just about pastors. I 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.920 think about is commanding the defensive front, like the way 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:10.240 I set it up. I can dictate the slides, know 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.880 where the slides going, understand protections. I think I'm above 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.640 IQ in every rush in the league. I don't like 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.480 I've learned from the best between Dan Zim halfway like 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.480 I really understand football at a way better level. So 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.920 allows me to, you know, use those abilities that I 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:26.959 haven't seen no one else do. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.000 So I love the take the confidence for Michael Parsons, 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:32.560 And the reason I threw that in the show other 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.840 than it's a fun SoundBite, is that I remember he 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.680 did this event with Miles Garrett and they were on 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.160 the stage. Did you see that this summer? He more 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.719 or less said, I'm smarter than you. Miles Garrett, like. 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.559 I did not see this. Now in the. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.440 Nicest of ways, he was. He was like, I don't 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.320 just get there with athleticism. I'm the smartest edge in 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:52.720 the league. I do it with this, this and that, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.720 and some people aren't just going out there and doing 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:56.079 it and I and Miles Garrett was. 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.559 Like, excuse me, back and forth, and. 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.360 I was just like I, I, you know, generally someone 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.199 that calls themselves the smartest, we have some high profile 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:09.080 examples are not the smartest. So maybe it's it's not true, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.840 but I still just like it. 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:12.680 I like Michael Parker, you know who I bet loves 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:13.760 that as Jerry Jones. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.640 Yes, yeah, another self proclaimer. 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:21.000 Another I bet he'll also love No lie. If Michael 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:23.480 Parsons come back for that game, yeah, just the attention 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.960 on that would be one of the games of the year. 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:27.840 But he will not be back for a while. More 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:28.400 injury news. 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.199 Nate Wiggins, the Ravens cornerback, carted off practice. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.000 We'll see again. 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.079 Carts don't always mean the same thing, but we'll track 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.120 that because he's really important for their defense at cornerback. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.520 Thought he was a young, improving player. Caid Mays one 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.720 of our favorite free agent pickups. He's the center for 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.120 the Detroit Lions, is gonna be back in about eight 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.960 to ten weeks after a wrist injury, so that puts 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.880 him out for the first month plus of the season. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.959 More bad Lions news. His backup, which in theory is 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.320 Juice Scrugs, great option from the Texans, also hurt right now. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.360 Isaiah Pacheco sprained his MCL. He hasn't been healthy in years. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.520 And then Dan Campbell indicated that Brian Branch and Kirby Joseph, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.720 they're all pro safety tandem, would both not be back, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:18.080 likely until early in the regular season, that they would 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.480 miss some regular season time. That is not a surprise 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.760 when it comes to Brian Branch coming off major knee surgery, 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.040 but we haven't really heard about what's happening with Kirby Joseph. 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:27.839 So just. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.920 A bunch of bad news for one team. And sometimes 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.160 it's not you know who you face, but when you 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.880 face them, the Lions, you know might be a good 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.040 Week one opponent. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.200 Yeah, Well, and the whole talk about them this year 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.760 is can they get their offense kind of humming the 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.160 way that we're used to, especially the run game humming 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:47.920 that we're used to with the even with the departure 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.600 of David Montgomery. When you're missing your center and the 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.480 offensive line was retooled a little bit, when you're missing 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.000 the guy in the pivot basically in that role, that's 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:57.800 that's really tough. 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.760 Caid mays we loved him for. 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:03.520 He was really held that Panthers line together last year 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.920 in a really positive way. Tough as they come to. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.280 So that's unfortunate. And then the questions about this Lion's 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.280 defense just won't will not go away until they're healthy. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.160 Oh and by the way, losing you know, a corner 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.680 for the foreseeable well they cut him Terry on Arnold 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.080 and and and you know you're losing depth there with him, 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.440 and then you're also losing guys to injuries like this. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:25.760 My question still, what is this defense going to look like? 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.920 And how are you gonna affect the opposing offense because 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.160 it's just one thing after another with this group. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.320 I think it's been a good camp for them up front. Yeah, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.360 once you get to the linebacker and the second the 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.760 secondary is a mess, and you know who plays them 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.480 week one. This is off the top of my head, 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.320 and so I really hope it's not wrong. You're New 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.840 Orleans Saints, Tyler suck baby, Yeah, could be lighting it up. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:49.400 That's back and forth. That's a lot of points. I 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.400 see a lot of points in that game, partly because 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.360 the Saints are quite banged up too. Cam Jordan has 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.960 an injury that could keep him out into the regular season. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.840 We were waiting for an update with Cam Jordan, but 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.880 it does sound quite significant and he's going to be 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:09.240 out for a while. Hopefully he's still podcasting in the meantime, 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.080 but I unfortunately. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.480 Maybe we can get an update from him. You know, 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.440 I hope he is on the come on the show. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.920 That would be outstanding. The Bears are another team kind 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.760 of clustering injuries. Kobe Bryant their safety. We knew he 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.400 was going to miss a big chunk of the season, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:26.400 we did not know he was likely to miss all 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:26.920 the season. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:27.200 Yeh. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.640 Ben Johnson revealed at the Ponium after Adam Schefter reported 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.800 it earlier that Kobe Bryant would be out four to 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.720 six months and they would hope for him to be 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.520 back for the playoffs. I think it's one of those 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.000 situations they didn't know quite how bad it was until 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.560 he underwent the surgery. Yeah, and so that's one of 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:46.560 their big free agent pickups gone. They're really banged up 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.960 in the secondary right now. We'll see who comes back, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.960 if Kyler Gordon comes back. But also on offense, the 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.600 guy who a lot of people thought might be their 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.240 number one receiver this year, Luther Burden, out roughly a 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.640 month according to a local report. I think the hope 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.920 is that maybe he's working his way back, not fully 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.640 back for week one. It's tough to tell this far out, 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.160 but some rough news on a few fronts there for 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:09.600 the Bears. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.920 Yeah, I worry less about their offense as long as 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.960 those you know, their their alignment. You know, the Ozzie 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.720 Trepulo obviously still recovering from the injury. But for the 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.200 most part, I think they'll be okay. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.200 They did the thing on the depth chart where they 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.880 listed three guys at the same position as their starting 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.080 left tackle, which is classic if you have threes. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:32.000 Class I mean, I think I don't worry as much 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:32.760 about their offense. 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.800 Luthor burden. It's not having to miss much time. I 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:37.600 don't worry too much about that. I think it's a 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.440 soft tissue which I am a little worried about. With 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.240 the receiver as explosive as he can be. This defense 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.640 is where I have a huge concern because they already 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.480 played the game and took the risk this offseason that 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.880 they were going to continue to predicate their system with 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.920 coverage first, and they were going to continue to try 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.800 be as aggressive as possible with their coverages despite letting 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.000 some really good players walk in free agency, and then 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.840 by bringing in a player like Kobe Bryant dictate that 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.720 way and then try to get these guys up front 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.840 continuing to develop and not make a big signing there 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.280 and not make a big a big trade there. And 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.680 so that is a risk already, and then it becomes 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.200 even more of a razor thin line to walk when 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.359 you do have an injury, the significant with a player 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.639 who was supposed to really make a difference for them. 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:19.960 I know. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.199 And it's like the starters are hurt, the backups are hurt. 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.360 We got a month to go. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.000 But man, they've asked the station over there, right, They've 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:30.160 asked Dennis Allen to do a lot, and he made 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.960 up for a lot. That's tough to make that work 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.159 year after year in the in the secondary, but I 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.800 believe in you. The Dennissance is on a few other 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:43.280 rookie notes. Kaylin Rutledge the yeah the Texans. I was 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.000 going to say first round pick, yes, or was he 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:47.960 high second round pick? Either way, he's going to be 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:49.760 the starting center for this team, so learning a new 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.440 position that's interesting immediately put there. Heard from our friend 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.040 Andrew Siciliano that Spencer Fano, uh, following up on what 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.359 we talked about Sunday night has been declared the left 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.800 tackle of the Browns and no more battle there for 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.240 the top ten pick. I also spoke too soon about 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:08.280 that Browns quarterback battle, like a day after it sounded 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.080 like they're just going on Watson. They give it back 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.800 to should Sanders, and Todd Munkin is f bombing both 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:19.040 quarterbacks because practice ends with Shoulder having two like pre 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:23.600 snat penalties and incomplete and then Watson and then practice 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.520 with pre snat penalty and an interception, and he's just 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.919 like Todd Muggins, mad at them all and there's no 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.840 clarity there, and it serves me right for opening a 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:34.200 show with the Browns quarterbacks. 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:34.680 Stupid. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.400 The Patriots made a trade which I'm only gonna mention 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.000 because he was a third round pick two years ago, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.840 Kaden Wallace. And now that Drake May draft class only 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.600 has two guys left of it, Drake May and Marcellus Dial, 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:48.600 who's like an end of the roster guy who might 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.240