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Speaker 5: I want to start the show.
Speaker 6: By congratulating Kyle Yeomans and Isaiah stand Back NBA Award
Speaker 6: winners in the building today.
Speaker 3: Fact been nice, Yeah nice.
Speaker 5: I'm proud of you boys.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. It is it's such a blessing to
Speaker 3: be able to do what we do on a daily
Speaker 3: basis and peer recognition is awesome. I really think it's
Speaker 3: a great thing. And the fact that that Isaiah gets
Speaker 3: nominated and wins for Best Analysts, I mean that's long overdue.
Speaker 1: Let's get the behind the scenes. What were the reactions, like, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: did you expect to win?
Speaker 7: Did you?
Speaker 3: I didn't either, I really didn't. I did not.
Speaker 8: I I honestly, I mean, this probably sounds bad, but
Speaker 8: I didn't know the severity or the importance of this
Speaker 8: entire anything. You know what I'm saying, Like, I just
Speaker 8: didn't just do it to do it. I'm still relatively
Speaker 8: new in this industry's I mean, Kyle knows me. I'm
Speaker 8: locked in, man, I just so, I really didn't. I
Speaker 8: didn't have a speech.
Speaker 3: I literally got up and spoke on him. I spoke
Speaker 3: on the mic.
Speaker 8: I think, you know, I thank God, I think my wife,
Speaker 8: I thank my teammates, everybody you know I consider here
Speaker 8: in my teammates, and.
Speaker 7: I thank my coach.
Speaker 9: And that was it.
Speaker 3: I was about it.
Speaker 8: There dropped the mic. But I did not expect I
Speaker 8: really didn't expect it. I was going up against Mark mcklamore,
Speaker 8: you know, and I used to watch him. I was
Speaker 8: a baseball dude, right so he's playing for the Mariners.
Speaker 8: I used to go down to the Kingdome, walk down
Speaker 8: there and watch him play, and we're cool, you know,
Speaker 8: we know each other. But like to go against him
Speaker 8: now that's kind of kind of full circle, but but
Speaker 8: I was. I was blessed, honored. Man, this guy another hand.
Speaker 8: I fully expected him to win.
Speaker 1: Came there with like a whole expect this guys.
Speaker 3: First off, his speech to the telepropherty I went, I
Speaker 3: went all the way through that that day, and first off,
Speaker 3: credit to my wife. She was like, you know what
Speaker 3: you're going and you're wearing a Tucks like you have
Speaker 3: a chance to win your first emmy. I was like,
Speaker 3: let me just wear like a sport code, let me
Speaker 3: just walk in like I didn't really want to really dress.
Speaker 3: So she was like, no, if you have a chance
Speaker 3: to win your first AMMY, you were going to wear
Speaker 3: a Tucks And I was like, okay, fine, yes ma'am.
Speaker 3: And then we got there and just getting to see
Speaker 3: everybody there, I mean, there's mentors that that I've watched
Speaker 3: on TV for so long and that I've learned from
Speaker 3: in my four years here and just really looked up
Speaker 3: to and to see them there, and uh the first
Speaker 3: person the hugby when I got off stage was new
Speaker 3: He Scruggs, who's of course on the Player's lounge and
Speaker 3: he's been such a blessing for me and in the
Speaker 3: business and in this whole process, and so it was
Speaker 3: really cool. It was really cool. I didn't have a
Speaker 3: speech prepared either, and they they told us twenty seconds
Speaker 3: is all you got. So it's like, I mean, it
Speaker 3: was quick, serious, and they would cut you off with
Speaker 3: the next video if you went over, like for real.
Speaker 3: So I went up there and I was like, yep, wife, coach, god, yeap,
Speaker 3: let me get out of here, like teammates for sure,
Speaker 3: and uh, yeah it was. It was really fun. So
Speaker 3: great day. We beam, Yeah, beamer Man beam for sure. Honestly,
Speaker 3: that's the MVP. That's a chance.
Speaker 8: But I didn't even think about trying to You're involved
Speaker 8: with the team makes there is no way to go
Speaker 8: down the line and in the amount of people that
Speaker 8: I would have to think individually, So it was all
Speaker 8: encomassing in terms of just time.
Speaker 3: The team.
Speaker 8: I mean, the team here is ridiculous, you know, and
Speaker 8: there's a lot of amazing talent that comes through these doors. Obviously,
Speaker 8: I mean skills all across the board. And you know,
Speaker 8: one thing you always remind yourself of is how blessed
Speaker 8: you are to be in this building and on this platform,
Speaker 8: because I mean, this is the greatest brand in sports.
Speaker 8: And I think a lot of times, you know, you're
Speaker 8: going through life and frustrations happened and all that jazz,
Speaker 8: and you really have to remind yourself where the heck
Speaker 8: are you at every day, you know, and it's it's
Speaker 8: pretty awesome.
Speaker 7: And then to be recognized, you know, as especially at
Speaker 7: least for.
Speaker 8: Me from my perspective as just a young spring chicken
Speaker 8: just trying to grind it out, it's pretty dope.
Speaker 1: It was also too that like what we were just
Speaker 1: walking in here, Yeah, Stephen Jones was walking by in
Speaker 1: the hallway. It was like, hey, congratulations, Isaiah whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, they know, they know. The cool thing
Speaker 3: For me, it was Isaiah and I really kind of
Speaker 3: started this journey together. I mean we were on Talking
Speaker 3: Cowboys really together from when we first got on the show.
Speaker 3: I think I did four shows without you before you House,
Speaker 3: the COVID edition, yeah, twenty twenty, and then we hopped
Speaker 3: on Talking Cowboys. Of course, that's kind of stayed the
Speaker 3: same sense. But then we got on pregame later in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty when the football season actually began and we
Speaker 3: started that TV journey together, and both of our submissions
Speaker 3: had a lot of pregame in it, a lot of
Speaker 3: pregame and postgame stuff in it. So the fact that
Speaker 3: like we kind of came in together and started this
Speaker 3: journey in twenty twenty to like win something where we
Speaker 3: kind of play off of each other on it was
Speaker 3: really really cool, so fun times. But enough about us,
Speaker 3: Let's talk about.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: That's what that's what we're here for. Let's where do
Speaker 3: you guys want to start? You want to start with
Speaker 3: the fifty three man cut downs. You're wearing your under
Speaker 3: lip key North Dakota State Green to Paris.
Speaker 5: Sure as did you know?
Speaker 6: I started the Hunter Lucky fan Club the day he
Speaker 6: got signed and the plane reached new heights yesterday?
Speaker 3: But no, no, true, thirty one thousand or thirty six thousand,
Speaker 3: thirty six thousand feet, forty three thousand feet, forty three
Speaker 3: thousand feet.
Speaker 5: I'm here, I'd give you that, but honestly, I was
Speaker 5: shocked he made the roster.
Speaker 6: I will say that I thought they were going to
Speaker 6: take four tight ends and three running backs, And if
Speaker 6: you had told me it's going to come down to
Speaker 6: Sean McEwen or Hunter Lkey, I would have been like, Okay, McEwen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 6: I was pretty surprised. I and you know, the more
Speaker 6: I've been thinking about it, it makes sense. I guess
Speaker 6: if you want somebody that still has a ton of
Speaker 6: upside that can bring more to the offense from a
Speaker 6: skill perspective, that I understand keeping looky, but also I
Speaker 6: think that's going to show a lot of confidence in
Speaker 6: Schoonmaker and the fact that he can block for the
Speaker 6: running game this year. So they must feel pretty good
Speaker 6: about where he's at with his planner fasciitis if it is,
Speaker 6: you know, overcome, and they feel pretty good about where
Speaker 6: he is skill set wise too. So there was a
Speaker 6: lot of fascinating things that I think went into that decision.
Speaker 6: I think that's one of the more interesting ones my
Speaker 6: hundred Lookey fandom the side.
Speaker 3: In addition to thirty two roster cuts, yesterday, Cowboys put
Speaker 3: four players on the reserve injured list. David Durdin, de
Speaker 3: Marvion Overshowing, John Stevens. Josh ball Ball was probably the
Speaker 3: one that's kind of a bit surprising, but we talked
Speaker 3: about it on Monday. He was expected to miss a
Speaker 3: significant amount of time. Let's go through, just like a
Speaker 3: clump of these at a time. We'll start with, Uh,
Speaker 3: start with Jabrill Cox. I think that's a pretty massive one.
Speaker 3: I mean, day two pick, or excuse me, day three pick,
Speaker 3: somebody that had high hopes for being in this linebacker corps.
Speaker 3: And Isaiah I know, whenever he was selected, I was
Speaker 3: very high on him. You really liked what he brought
Speaker 3: to the table. And then the injuries kind of happened.
Speaker 3: Then it derailed a lot of that production and a
Speaker 3: lot of that growth early on.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I hate it being the guy that you know,
Speaker 8: I'm a straight shooter, but I know you've heard me
Speaker 8: many times.
Speaker 7: Say that knees just not not the same.
Speaker 8: It's not He's not what he was, unfortunately, and that
Speaker 8: sucks because I'm somebody who's sustained a lot of injuries.
Speaker 8: But the reality is, once he had that injury, his
Speaker 8: greatest asset was then tarnished. I mean, he could not
Speaker 8: he wasn't as agile as he was. He wasn't as
Speaker 8: fast as he once was. His ability to change direction
Speaker 8: and sink his weight and get out in the power
Speaker 8: in power out, it just wasn't there. And I hate
Speaker 8: that for him. I hate that for him, But there's nothing.
Speaker 8: If he could change it, he would have changed it,
Speaker 8: you know, but injuries happened. But the reason why they
Speaker 8: got him, he was unable to do those same things
Speaker 8: that they the reason why they attained them in the
Speaker 8: first place.
Speaker 1: My biggest surprise with that is just because of how
Speaker 1: thin they were at linebacker. I was like, even though
Speaker 1: he hasn't shown that, who do they who else do
Speaker 1: they have? Now obviously they can use the safeties and that,
Speaker 1: but it just there's a part of me that's like, man,
Speaker 1: it just seems thin at that position, not to have
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox there. So that would be you know that
Speaker 1: that would probably be at the top of my list
Speaker 1: of in terms of you know, surprises would be that.
Speaker 1: And then as you mentioned Lipke and not going with
Speaker 1: Sean McCune just because you know, even when Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: talked about yesterday like saying, when he was asked about mccwne,
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's those are the tough ones
Speaker 1: when you have to sit there and tell a player like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you did everything we asked you to do, but I
Speaker 1: gotta let you go.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: That's because there's probably a ton of guys you're letting
Speaker 1: go that you're just like, yeah, but you know we wanted,
Speaker 1: we need to do this and this and and you
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. But it sounds like with mckown it
Speaker 1: was just the numbers thing there. So I would think
Speaker 1: that he has to be pretty high in their list
Speaker 1: of guys that they're hoping they can get back.
Speaker 8: And to that point, when we sat down at training camp,
Speaker 8: I think it was our first talking cowboys in Auxnart,
Speaker 8: and I kind of brought up how Sean mceuwen was
Speaker 8: what he was tofu. He was a guy who didn't
Speaker 8: have a lot of flavor to him. You know, you
Speaker 8: can you can make it work, you like, but I
Speaker 8: see I sees him seizing. So McEwen just didn't have
Speaker 8: a lot to him, but he was consistent, you know.
Speaker 8: And Linda Wells has backed that up as well. He's like, man,
Speaker 8: you know what you're gonna get out of him? I
Speaker 8: think that decision in regards to Lipke over McEwen. Came
Speaker 8: down to the contributions that would be there on special teams,
Speaker 8: and I don't think Sean McKowen was as versatile on
Speaker 8: special teams as Hunter lip Key can be.
Speaker 7: And that's ultimately what I leave.
Speaker 8: It came down to reason being what would you use
Speaker 8: Sean mchum for on special teams aside from field goal protection?
Speaker 3: Not a whole lot, yeah, because I mean he's not
Speaker 3: running down field and covering kicks. Right.
Speaker 8: He can't be your personal protector, right, he can't, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean. He's just so he's very very
Speaker 8: limited in that regard. Now, would he be willing, I'm sure,
Speaker 8: could he do it? I'm sure? But there's levels to everything.
Speaker 8: And I think when you take somebody who was a
Speaker 8: six one two forty eight, two fifty whatever he is, Okay,
Speaker 8: who can that.
Speaker 3: That frame peral downfield frame gives you a lot to
Speaker 3: work with.
Speaker 8: Okay, As a he could he could still be a
Speaker 8: wing on a field goal block if you really needed
Speaker 8: to field goal protection if you needed to, But he's
Speaker 8: not gonna be there, so field goal field goal block,
Speaker 8: he's not.
Speaker 7: Going to be your guy.
Speaker 8: But on all the other things, coverage, coverage covering kicks,
Speaker 8: punt and kickoff, kickoff return. He's going to be one
Speaker 8: of the front line guys or even the backline guy
Speaker 8: most likely that can sit back there and be the
Speaker 8: quote unquote new version of a wedge, you know, so
Speaker 8: he can be versatile in those offerings, so he can
Speaker 8: be one of your core special teams versus McEwen would
Speaker 8: not be a core special teamer. And that's the aspect
Speaker 8: that people are forgetting that Bones Fossil has to have.
Speaker 8: He has to have six solid guys that he could
Speaker 8: rely on in every specialist.
Speaker 3: That was gonna be. My next question is do you
Speaker 3: think Bones Fossil ultimately made this decision. You think it
Speaker 3: was they went to Bones and said, Okay, we've got
Speaker 3: a couple guys here. Here's a list of guys. Who
Speaker 3: do you want out of this list of guys, who
Speaker 3: is going to be most productive for you in this situation?
Speaker 3: Because we feel good at tight end, we've got Ferguson,
Speaker 3: Schoonmaker and Hindershot as offensive weapons. Sure, we would like
Speaker 3: to rotate a guy in there here and there because
Speaker 3: they run two tight end sets so often with a
Speaker 3: guy like Sean McEwan.
Speaker 8: But Hunter Lipke can do a similar thing. I mean
Speaker 8: he really kind of hybrided. If you're gonna play is
Speaker 8: he going to play twenty snaps on offense?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 7: No, is he gonna play twenty steps on special teams?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what it ends up coming down.
Speaker 1: Speaking of special teams real quick, were you guys surprised
Speaker 1: at what happened with Calvin Joseph? I know, when we
Speaker 1: had talked about cutting down the roster possibly not having
Speaker 1: them out, were you surprised that they were able to
Speaker 1: get something in return?
Speaker 3: I want to I want to wait until the second
Speaker 3: segment because I want to spend the whole segment on it,
Speaker 3: because it's.
Speaker 1: Kind of a notable move. That's a very notable move.
Speaker 1: You know that It's easy to overlook it because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are like, it's not like
Speaker 1: they traded someone that you're like, Man, I knew for
Speaker 1: I thought for sure that that guy was going to
Speaker 1: be on the fifty three, and so we had talked
Speaker 1: about it. So that's not the reason why I mentioned it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to talk about it significantly because
Speaker 3: I mean, whenever you trade for a former first round
Speaker 3: or for the second time this week. It's kind of
Speaker 3: something to talk about. Yeah, the then along the lines
Speaker 3: kind of going back down the list, I mean, jabro
Speaker 3: Cox was a surprise. Sean McEwan was a surprise. Out
Speaker 3: of the names that we listed in our show on Monday,
Speaker 3: we only got four guys wrong. It was those two.
Speaker 3: The third one was brock Hoffman. We kept brock Hoffman
Speaker 3: even though we had kind of.
Speaker 1: A don't think I don't think we had a sixth receiver.
Speaker 3: And then we did not have a sixth receiver.
Speaker 1: That's the only one I can think of. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't have Brooks.
Speaker 3: We I think we cut Brooks too, is Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was the problem. So yeah, I mean pretty close on
Speaker 3: what what we thought was going to happen, did you
Speaker 3: But it's not I mean, ahead, what were you gonna say.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, it's not fully settled yet, right
Speaker 7: for real?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there will be a backup center on this
Speaker 5: roster that is not in this building right now?
Speaker 3: Good Win?
Speaker 1: Right, I mean again, I know we'll talk about it,
Speaker 1: but like especially losing Kelvin Joseph, I don't see how
Speaker 1: they would they need CJ. Goodwin. I mean those are
Speaker 1: the two top gunners last year. We're a good Win
Speaker 1: and Joseph so and Trent and they kept Trent Sig too.
Speaker 1: They're going to bring him back.
Speaker 3: They kept every single one of their draft picks too.
Speaker 3: By the way, you noticed that as well, because they
Speaker 3: kept Miles Brooks. Excuse me, uh, I brought Miles Brooks.
Speaker 3: Miles Brooks got cut unfortunately, uh Eric Scott junior and
Speaker 3: they got they brought back Jalen Brooks. I mean multiple
Speaker 3: guys that were late in that draft class. Villiami Fijoco.
Speaker 3: We kind of knew he was going to be around.
Speaker 5: But then three undrafted guys again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, again the rookie class is it carries a lot
Speaker 3: of weight in this.
Speaker 1: I told you going into camp they keep three undrafted guys.
Speaker 1: Don't you think that either Wheat or Land would be
Speaker 1: one of those guys?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think.
Speaker 1: One of them on the fifth l for Land, that's right, yeah.
Speaker 3: I so interestingly enough, in talking with some of the
Speaker 3: front office, they had a higher grade on Wheat than
Speaker 3: they did on Land, but they had a fifth round
Speaker 3: grade on Wheat. I mean they were very high on
Speaker 3: Tyrus Wheat.
Speaker 1: They really like to know what their grade was on bass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that one.
Speaker 1: I can ask the athletic We lean heavily on Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: and he definitely had a draftable grade.
Speaker 3: I had a fifth round grade.
Speaker 1: Okay, that might have been with Dane had two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he definitely was a draftable grade. It was one of
Speaker 1: those when the draft was over, like Dane's draft guy,
Speaker 1: he was one of the highest guys that were still
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: I'll look into it. I'll see if I can talk
Speaker 3: to somebody across the street, because I think having Wheat
Speaker 3: not on this roster kind of shocks me because they
Speaker 3: were really high on him out of out of school
Speaker 3: and maybe they bring him back. I mean, he could
Speaker 3: be one of those guys that gets lost in the
Speaker 3: cracks and he goes back to the practice squad and
Speaker 3: you feel pretty good about him. But if they felt
Speaker 3: that good about him and he just ended up slipping
Speaker 3: through the cracks and got to the undrafted free agent class,
Speaker 3: they signed him. Is there another one of the thirty
Speaker 3: one teams that was looking at him as an undrafted
Speaker 3: free agent possibility and then didn't sign him back in April?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8: My mind automatically goes to some of the strategy that
Speaker 8: goes into the veterans that can't be picked up on waivers,
Speaker 8: and you know that don't have to try to clear
Speaker 8: waivers some of these younger guys that we thought that
Speaker 8: we sat here and cut on Monday but wanted on
Speaker 8: the practice squad. Some of those guys are retained for now,
Speaker 8: but may not be by the.
Speaker 7: End of the week. And then you know, hopefully they slipped.
Speaker 8: Through the cracks because everybody's not trying to grab all
Speaker 8: their practice squad players, you know, at that point in time,
Speaker 8: and you have a greater probability of a Jalen Brooks
Speaker 8: or or somebody like that being released and being able
Speaker 8: to get him back because nobody wants to let go
Speaker 8: of their guys they already signed.
Speaker 3: Sneak them.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of that stuff that still
Speaker 8: could take place by what Friday, I would assume.
Speaker 7: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: I will say every time I see Isaiah Land's name
Speaker 6: on Twitter, I just want to report the tweet, like.
Speaker 3: Get his name off the time.
Speaker 5: You can't tweet about until noon.
Speaker 3: Get him out of here, all right, everybody and talking
Speaker 3: Cowboys Nation, No more tweeting about Isaiah Land. We got
Speaker 3: to keep them for at.
Speaker 5: Least the next forty three minutes. Let's just keep it quiet.
Speaker 3: So that's when the deadline is is forty three minutes
Speaker 3: from now. That's when what is that deadline exact?
Speaker 6: That'll be the claim waivers deadline. So anybody that is
Speaker 6: going through the waiver process right now will have to
Speaker 6: be claimed by eleven am Central time, and we'll see.
Speaker 6: I think there's going to be at least two guys
Speaker 6: that the Cowboys will go after for sure. That or
Speaker 6: that we're not on the roster beforehand.
Speaker 7: That's what I think.
Speaker 3: Do you if that's the case, and I agree, and
Speaker 3: you see anything, say something, Okay for sure, everybody that's
Speaker 3: on Twitter see something, say something, and we could just
Speaker 3: say reports are yeah, we can kind of keep it
Speaker 3: very generic, but yeah, plenty. Still moving the back and forth.
Speaker 3: The the strategy that's at hand with building this fifty
Speaker 3: three man roster continues to ebb and flow here this
Speaker 3: week and then in the middle of the week. But
Speaker 3: when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we alluded
Speaker 3: to it. The Cowboys trade for a former first rounder
Speaker 3: for the second time this week.
Speaker 1: I can't wait here.
Speaker 3: You pronounce the name Noah Benogany. Okay, you've worked, I've
Speaker 3: got you. I got my twenty twenty draft class back
Speaker 3: here all right, when we come back with more on
Speaker 3: talking cowboys.
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Speaker 3: the other day for the Emmy nomination and the Emmy
Speaker 3: Award show, because I want to know as well. So
Speaker 3: Holme's got some chamber, goeh, got something ready to go?
Speaker 1: As in a rental or this is real?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 7: Okay? I scoured the universe for suits and Texas.
Speaker 1: He actually just don't have enough important things to go
Speaker 1: do to own a tux. I'd like to have I'd
Speaker 1: like to have a few suits, but I just don't
Speaker 1: feel like I do enough that I could utilize the
Speaker 1: tucks enough.
Speaker 8: I actually went shopping yesterday just you know. There's a
Speaker 8: couple of spots I go to listen for everybody that
Speaker 8: needs suits or tuxes.
Speaker 7: You about to give up this, I'm no, no, I'm
Speaker 7: gonna get plug. I'm not geting paid by the body.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 8: But there are a couple of spots that you go
Speaker 8: to right now if you want to pay for your boy,
Speaker 8: I'll give you a shot out. Oh, this is the
Speaker 8: time of the year for those that need suits. Okay,
Speaker 8: this is when you go and you look for suit
Speaker 8: deals because they're transitioning seasons. They're going from summer to
Speaker 8: fall and they have to get rid of stuff, so
Speaker 8: you ol during this time you go to your local
Speaker 8: suit stores whatever those are, okay, and that's when you
Speaker 8: go straight Today They're like, how can I help you today?
Speaker 7: Where are your cells? And you go there and you
Speaker 7: get everything for the lo lo huh.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're back here on talking fashion.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lol. You know, I didn't get an invite
Speaker 3: to go shopping.
Speaker 8: This is the only thing I did it right. For
Speaker 8: our picture where you at, I was moving. I had
Speaker 8: to I had to pack the box of the house.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, apologies, but yeah. So there you go. There's
Speaker 3: Isaiah looking fresh as always. I dare you to wear
Speaker 3: a suit on Friday to the show tomorrow, but you'll
Speaker 3: wear one tomorrow. Fine, all right? No what Benogany is
Speaker 3: now a piece of the Dallas Cowboys secondary. Cowboys trade
Speaker 3: former second round pick Kelvin Joseph second round pick in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, to the Miami Dolphins, just to straight
Speaker 3: up cornerback trade. And really it was a similar situation,
Speaker 3: but just one more year down the line and one
Speaker 3: more round up for IgG Benogany as opposed to Calvin
Speaker 3: Joseph because he was drafted in twenty twenty he was
Speaker 3: a first round pick and then turns around and is
Speaker 3: in Miami in a crowded secondary, and they were looking
Speaker 3: at ways to either cut him or release him or
Speaker 3: trade him, and Dallas said, well, let's see if a
Speaker 3: change of scenery can help both of these teams out.
Speaker 3: But I really like to deal overall, because you don't
Speaker 3: necessarily lose anything except for one of those fifty three
Speaker 3: roster spots. That's the only thing I think you might
Speaker 3: lose in this scenario. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think it's set.
Speaker 6: If they were wanting to covin Joseph instead of cutting him,
Speaker 6: you get a guy for him, and a guy who
Speaker 6: is a former first round pick, as you said, probably
Speaker 6: a guy that probably should have been in the second
Speaker 6: round coming out of that twenty three draft, but nevertheless
Speaker 6: he got late first. Noah, Igbinoghany, he's still twenty three.
Speaker 6: He's younger than Kelvin somehow, And I like it because,
Speaker 6: like you said, there's nothing to lose. If it doesn't
Speaker 6: work out, then okay, then you know you've lost the
Speaker 6: roster spot that you were gonna give up. Anyway, it
Speaker 6: does work out, then everyone looks smart and everyone's happy.
Speaker 6: I think for Igbinoghany, you know, he's more of a
Speaker 6: boundary guy. Kelvin was more of an inside guy. It's
Speaker 6: gonna work out great for Kelvin in Miami because they
Speaker 6: need an inside guy to kind of fill in and
Speaker 6: play some time there. He's gonna get a ton of
Speaker 6: reps this year. He will be playing on Christmas Eve
Speaker 6: if he's healthy, knock on wood, and then Noah Igbinoghany,
Speaker 6: he will be able to sit behind Stefan Gilmour and
Speaker 6: Trayvon Diggs, which you know, just depending on how long
Speaker 6: Stefan Gilmour is here. Who knows by the time that
Speaker 6: he's you know, getting to his father time noggbnogan, he's
Speaker 6: ready to step in. So I don't hate the move.
Speaker 6: And you know, if you're thinking optimistically, then it works out.
Speaker 6: But if you're thinking pessimistically, which is honestly probably the
Speaker 6: more realistic option at times, then probably you see know
Speaker 6: what Igbinoghany not working out down the line just because
Speaker 6: of what he's not been able to do on the
Speaker 6: field as a first round pick for Miami. But I think,
Speaker 6: I think if you're thinking optimistically, then this is a
Speaker 6: good trade here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like both teams are trying to maybe
Speaker 1: get somebody that can jumpstart their career with just a
Speaker 1: change of scenery. You know, hey, this isn't working out here,
Speaker 1: this isn't working out here. Let's try and make a
Speaker 1: move and maybe it'll work out for at least one
Speaker 1: of the two. I just keep going back to that
Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft because there was just such an emphasis
Speaker 1: I get in a corner. Yeah, And I remember just
Speaker 1: all those mocks leading up to that draft that you know,
Speaker 1: you got top ten pick, you you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to get certain or or j C. Horn out of that,
Speaker 1: and then they go both go boom boom right there,
Speaker 1: and then you just have to, I guess, deal with
Speaker 1: taking Micael Parsons and just see so make the best
Speaker 1: of it. But it just felt like after that it
Speaker 1: was like they were trying to really get a corner,
Speaker 1: no matter how whoever it was going to be it
Speaker 1: with that second round pick, hoping that you get the
Speaker 1: same return on investment they did when they got Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs and it just never worked out. So I think
Speaker 1: for them to get something, even even if this doesn't
Speaker 1: work out, it's better than just you know, outright releasing him.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And some of the guys that corner that went
Speaker 3: after kill the Joseph there was only one other corner
Speaker 3: in the second.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Floor to State football fan, I really,
Speaker 1: but I know his size doesn't fit what they were
Speaker 1: looking for.
Speaker 3: The size wasn't what they wanted, But I wanted him
Speaker 3: so bad, and it was a Sante Samuel junior out
Speaker 3: of Florida State, And he was the only other second
Speaker 3: round corner that year. After that, Paulson Adebo corner from
Speaker 3: Stanford went in the third round. A little bit further down,
Speaker 3: there was a run of corners later after Nashan Wright.
Speaker 3: Actually it was then nay Sean Wright, followed by a
Speaker 3: few Melifan Wu from Syracuse and Brandon Stevens from SMU.
Speaker 5: That was good at this pronunciation. Things do a lot
Speaker 5: of research.
Speaker 1: I never was I never thought of Calvin Joseph as
Speaker 1: being like a first round quality player. Like so you
Speaker 1: know how some people talked, go for it, say it,
Speaker 1: you know, going in then draft, people talked a little
Speaker 1: bit about he had like first round two. I just
Speaker 1: never saw that.
Speaker 3: I didn't either, And honestly, let me go to my grade.
Speaker 3: I keep all my grades for all these guys I had. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had Kelvin Joseph as the seventeenth ranked corner in
Speaker 3: that class.
Speaker 5: So it's corner third, mid third, late third, that's like
Speaker 5: late fourth, late fourth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like one one ninth was his overall grade. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I had one nineteen. The one thing I liked about
Speaker 3: him was a speed He ran a four to three
Speaker 3: four with a one four to fourth split.
Speaker 1: So my whole thing about when it comes to like
Speaker 1: the pre draft stuff, is it just you just don't
Speaker 1: really know what's going on behind the scenes, Like you know,
Speaker 1: you can watch a player in that, but you don't
Speaker 1: know what it could be off the field other stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And clearly the teams have that advantage to
Speaker 1: get a chance to meet with guys and things like that.
Speaker 1: I remember multiple people went from the Cowboys organization, you know,
Speaker 1: to Kentucky, uh to scout him. I want to say
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn went. Maybe Dan went with Will I think
Speaker 1: he did because they got Bohanna and Calvin Ei of that.
Speaker 3: Yep, I think you're right.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that was a tough year to draft too, though,
Speaker 1: because that was coming off the COVID year.
Speaker 3: I don't think there was no combin no combine right,
Speaker 3: no combine well.
Speaker 1: By writers that The Athletic wrote about that with the
Speaker 1: lance thing that yeah, maybe it was a bad time
Speaker 1: for one of our niners. Writers wrote about that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this might have been a bad time to gamble on
Speaker 1: a quarterback to trade three first round picks just because
Speaker 1: there was so much uncertainty going into that draft class.
Speaker 5: Yeah, limited experience too. It's fascinating to me.
Speaker 3: What do you guys think about iggbonogamy and kind of
Speaker 3: the rotation there now because nay Sean Wright is still
Speaker 3: on this team, you have on the back end, is
Speaker 3: you mcwualm who's still on this team? You have some
Speaker 3: boundary guys. I know mcwam who plays both. But do
Speaker 3: you feel like he can find a way into the
Speaker 3: rotation as a guy like this or are they going
Speaker 3: to try and fit him into that rotation with now
Speaker 3: that Kelvin's gone, Are they going to force some of
Speaker 3: the iggbanogany opportunities? Maybe?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think I don't know.
Speaker 8: I think some of these guys again and just goes
Speaker 8: to the specialist because you have your solid three dbs
Speaker 8: for this team and then you have a horde of safeties,
Speaker 8: so you're on the field with six dbs most of
Speaker 8: the time. Yeah, and it's gonna be hard to break
Speaker 8: that rotation. It's just really it just really is because
Speaker 8: those guys aren't really rotating out, they're not coming off
Speaker 8: the field. They're almost like old light man. They just
Speaker 8: don't really come out at least at the quarterback position.
Speaker 8: So I think, you know, obviously the depending on the
Speaker 8: health of Jay Lou, that's always going to play a
Speaker 8: part into some of these guys opportunities as well how
Speaker 8: long it takes for him to really touch the field.
Speaker 8: But I think aside for their fourth guy up, and
Speaker 8: if you have to talk about, like, well, who's the
Speaker 8: fourth guy to touch the field at the cornerback position,
Speaker 8: I think I have to go with probably Nashaw until
Speaker 8: Jay Lou gets healthy.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I think he would play by necessity like Monogheny. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and hopefully that necessity is not experienced. Yeah, because that
Speaker 6: would take a couple of guys getting injured. I think
Speaker 6: I think that would take one of either Trayvon or
Speaker 6: staff On and then na Sean Wright.
Speaker 8: So I think I can say again, I know he
Speaker 8: keeps saying special teams like both also I think had
Speaker 8: his hand.
Speaker 7: On a lot of these decisions.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I really, I really believe that because he lost,
Speaker 8: Like I've mentioned it before, he lost two core special
Speaker 8: teamers Luke Gifford last year, Noah Brown last year, and
Speaker 8: then you Kelvin Joseph this year.
Speaker 7: Those are three of his six core special teamers.
Speaker 1: He's probably helping for something out of uh the Marvin
Speaker 1: overshown too.
Speaker 7: Absolutely. I know, you know, I talked to him about
Speaker 7: a couple weeks ago. He was heartbroke.
Speaker 6: He had taken that Gifford role for Yeah, so who
Speaker 6: takes those roles? In your opinion, we got Jalen Brooks
Speaker 6: that probably takes to know.
Speaker 7: Ye yeah, yep, one ye is that guy. But Bill
Speaker 7: Jua ye Bill, both.
Speaker 3: Of those guys with them are here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3: So they still went heavy in safety in corner like
Speaker 3: secondary was heavy, kind of like what we expected. I mean,
Speaker 3: we took twelve guys between the two and they ended
Speaker 3: up with thirteen.
Speaker 8: Right, I mean because the versatility with that size, you
Speaker 8: could do a lot. Yeah, I mean you could do
Speaker 8: a lot. I mean that's why all the injuries Eye sustained.
Speaker 8: I was able to keep jobs just because of the versatility.
Speaker 8: If you're if you have good size, you got speed,
Speaker 8: and you and you are willing to go out there
Speaker 8: and put your head in there and get some contact,
Speaker 8: You're gonna have plenty opportunities.
Speaker 1: So are we seeing the NFL? You know how, there's
Speaker 1: obviously the devaluing of the wide receiver, I mean the
Speaker 1: running back position, Like how how like is it going
Speaker 1: to start affecting linebacker like this because like you know,
Speaker 1: jay Ryn Curse is talking to the locker room today
Speaker 1: about how you know the way that everyone's spreading you
Speaker 1: out nowadays in the NFL, you're getting more and more
Speaker 1: safeties in there. Is it gonna start getting to a
Speaker 1: point where like team and just really have two or
Speaker 1: three traditional linebackers and then have a bunch of dB
Speaker 1: type guys like that.
Speaker 8: It's all predicated on the type of offenses that you're
Speaker 8: seeing now. Yeah, I mean back in the day it
Speaker 8: was run heavy. Yeah, so you need to be this
Speaker 8: big linebacker. Now if the league's pass heavy, so you
Speaker 8: don't need as many big guys because you have to
Speaker 8: be able to cover you know, Kyle receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, So the game's changed now. You can
Speaker 3: say those are directly connected, honestly, because the devaluation of
Speaker 3: the running back position leads to the devaluation of the
Speaker 3: linebacker position. It also goes back to the big nickel.
Speaker 3: You think about the way that teams run the big
Speaker 3: nickel now, like it's just a normal base defense as
Speaker 3: opposed to ten. Fifteen years ago, teams didn't run the
Speaker 3: big nickel but at all unless it was a specific scheme,
Speaker 3: and now it's almost a normal thing in the l
Speaker 3: NFL because of the way the tight ends are utilized
Speaker 3: in the versatility of the passing game. And honestly, I
Speaker 3: think it also has to do a lot with a
Speaker 3: lot with the RPO too, and the way that the
Speaker 3: run pass option has come into play, because if you
Speaker 3: talk about the RPO, linebackers need to read for like
Speaker 3: one or two plays and then the rest of it,
Speaker 3: it's the secondary that's who's really doing a lot of
Speaker 3: the reading and a lot of the covering.
Speaker 1: That was It was interesting today, like when Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: was out there with Tree Lance, they were they were
Speaker 1: working on a little bit of that, a little bit yeah,
Speaker 1: about how they like to hold the ball and like
Speaker 1: if in their style and then pull it back and
Speaker 1: things like that.
Speaker 7: It was interesting.
Speaker 3: That is super interesting. One last thing on Noah Igbinogay.
Speaker 3: Have y'all ever just gone back and looked at the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty draft class of corners and how odd this was.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go now, I'm just going to go
Speaker 3: down the list. These are the guys that I had
Speaker 3: him ranked. This isn't the way that that they went,
Speaker 3: but you'll recognize some of the guys. Jeff Okuda already
Speaker 3: traded in good did not work top top ten pick.
Speaker 5: I thought he was going to be I thought he
Speaker 5: was dude.
Speaker 3: I had him number number five overall player uh CJ Henderson, Oof,
Speaker 3: Jeff Gladney, the late Jeff Gladney, H Christian Fulton. He's
Speaker 3: been okay, He's been okay in the league. AJ Terrell
Speaker 3: has been great, Trayvon Diggs has been great. Then it
Speaker 3: goes Damon arnettof Jalen Johnson, Oof, Cameron Danceler, and Noah
Speaker 3: Eggbinogady goodness. So just just a roller coaster of corners
Speaker 3: at this point in that twenty twenty draft class that
Speaker 3: just didn't work out. That was also the same draft
Speaker 3: class that the Cowboys took Reggie Robinson the second in
Speaker 3: the fourth round.
Speaker 1: So just oh, yeah, you got about him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder what he's up to.
Speaker 3: I don't know care.
Speaker 8: I know I did about Will Greer getting shoot. Yeah,
Speaker 8: but he chose not to come back here, right, isn't
Speaker 8: that a practice squad?
Speaker 7: You get to choose where you go. It's not that's
Speaker 7: not a pickup. You get the your agent cause you.
Speaker 1: I think that he I think he got claimed, so
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know if he has a
Speaker 1: saying that I could.
Speaker 7: Be a practice squad would be wrong.
Speaker 3: Claimed you.
Speaker 1: Fifty three practice squad.
Speaker 7: You get to choose.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Patrick Walker told me earlier in the week that
Speaker 6: you if you're claimed off waivers, you can either go
Speaker 6: there or stay where you're at.
Speaker 5: Now, don't come at me, come come at no seat.
Speaker 7: But he's signed, yeah, character yeah, so he so he
Speaker 7: he chose to go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: But that makes sense.
Speaker 3: Why before here, I understood.
Speaker 8: What I'm saying about after coach McCarthy's comments about how
Speaker 8: he would love to have Will Grear back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 8: I just thought that was interesting because Will had probably
Speaker 8: had a chance to come back here and he was like, yeah.
Speaker 7: No, I appreciate a coach. But now I'm good. I'm
Speaker 7: going over here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at since he's depth chart, I was
Speaker 5: trying to do the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be three I any of their backup is
Speaker 1: but he won't be I don't think he said it's.
Speaker 3: One of those career backups, one of the long Yeah,
Speaker 3: Jake Browning, so you dope. Yeah, that's only I said,
Speaker 3: career backup. That's all he was. He was prime brown
Speaker 3: after not.
Speaker 7: He does not fit the mold of us.
Speaker 5: That's the second best watched the quarterback.
Speaker 10: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake, I was about to say each was really good.
Speaker 3: I'm calling warm moon right now. All right, let's let's take.
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Speaker 3: The four to h one says congrats Isaiah and Kyle
Speaker 3: Beam is the MVP. He said, just have a comment
Speaker 3: for you guys. Mike McCarthy loves the fullback. No way,
Speaker 3: Hunter Wicky wasn't making this team. That's George from Rhode
Speaker 3: Island fans since nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 1: My argument would be, then, I would you play a
Speaker 1: guy that much in that last preseason game, because there's
Speaker 1: that last preseason game is tricky because there's sometimes where
Speaker 1: you're playing a guy a lot because you wanted to
Speaker 1: show you something. But then there's other guys like I'll
Speaker 1: give you a good example, like Jalen Brooks. You don't
Speaker 1: think he needed to play like They're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I felt like they now looking back on it,
Speaker 1: knowing what we know, they're probably like, yeah, we've seen
Speaker 1: enough there, But I don't. I just don't think they
Speaker 1: let Lipke play that much. If it was like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: we already know that you're on the roster. I think
Speaker 1: that the way he played in that game worked a spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with you, because.
Speaker 1: I think more so than anybody else in that game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he said it. He said it.
Speaker 3: Karthy said that, I think you also play the factor
Speaker 3: of when when he had the start to camp, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of I mean, there were expectations. I
Speaker 3: really liked Hunter Lipky too, but the expectation was that
Speaker 3: he was going to be a versatile athletic blocker, slash,
Speaker 3: well rounded receiver and YadA YadA YadA, and he could
Speaker 3: do a whole lot of different things. And then he
Speaker 3: just never really could show the balance for the vision
Speaker 3: or whatever it ended up being in these practices to show, hey,
Speaker 3: he's worth taking one of those fifty three roster spots.
Speaker 3: And then the way he played with Will Greer in
Speaker 3: that final preseason game was finally an aha, like, Oh,
Speaker 3: that's that's what we were looking for, Like, that's the
Speaker 3: moment we were looking for. You and I were sitting
Speaker 3: in the booth and we were kind of joking with
Speaker 3: each other back and forth, like he's going to mess
Speaker 3: around and make this team. But I don't know if
Speaker 3: we really believed that until like the second half, whenever
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, I think he actually is going
Speaker 3: to play in and make his make his way onto
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 6: When he had those back to back receptions that eventually
Speaker 6: led into the touchdown. That's when I was like, Okay,
Speaker 6: he's at least cemented a practice squad spot. Sure, but
Speaker 6: it still surprised me that he made the fifty three.
Speaker 6: It still surprises me. But having a fullback like John Coon,
Speaker 6: when Mike McCarthy had that during his days at Green Bay,
Speaker 6: and that just wants you, that wants you feed in
Speaker 6: for the next one.
Speaker 5: He wants it back.
Speaker 3: Find a way.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well.
Speaker 5: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, parting ways with Ezekiel Elliott took way
Speaker 1: one of your bigger backs like that that you could
Speaker 1: use in goal line situation, shortyard and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So I know we had talked about before, like back
Speaker 1: when we were out knock start about the whole idea
Speaker 1: of like if they don't have one of these bigger backs,
Speaker 1: are they going to get Maybe they think that from
Speaker 1: what they've seen from him, he can fill a little
Speaker 1: bit of that role.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this one hundred.
Speaker 6: Look he scores a touchdown this year, I'm going to
Speaker 6: be ruthless the next day on the show, I'm going
Speaker 6: to be unbearable.
Speaker 3: Can you get a jersey? It's just like it's hard
Speaker 3: to cover Jason.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll make it work now that he made the
Speaker 6: fifty three. It's in the works, it's already done. Oh No,
Speaker 6: I just love fullbacks. I'm a big full because you
Speaker 6: are a fullback. Stand you was your favorite fullback. I
Speaker 6: really like used Check And that's probably recency biased, but
Speaker 6: I love you Check, I really do.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: I grew up around the whole Darryl Moose, Johnston, Tom Rathman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it was just such a big part of whenever
Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys Niners and that. I don't I feel
Speaker 1: bad for you though, because I think the game's going
Speaker 1: away from that.
Speaker 6: It is, it is.
Speaker 5: That's why I love him so much. To be able
Speaker 5: to find a niche in this league at a position
Speaker 5: like that, it's tough.
Speaker 3: It's a throwback to throwback, all right. Anthony from Seattle
Speaker 3: up there in the Pacific Northwest, He says, what decisions
Speaker 3: do you think the team will make once Ronald Jones
Speaker 3: is off suspension, especially if the running backs currently perform well, Isaiah,
Speaker 3: what do you think about the running back position? Because
Speaker 3: Ronald Jones is still sticking around, at least at the moment.
Speaker 7: At least at the moment, what question.
Speaker 5: Is he counting towards the fifty three? I think he
Speaker 5: has to he is, right, that's so interesting.
Speaker 7: Sorry, No, I really don't.
Speaker 8: I don't see a role currently for him. I also
Speaker 8: don't see them carrying all these running backs. So something's
Speaker 8: going to happen over the next few days. I feel
Speaker 8: I'll just stand by.
Speaker 5: In the position group in that position.
Speaker 7: You're not keeping all those guys, h absolutely not, No, absolutely.
Speaker 3: They kept four of the five. The only one that
Speaker 3: they cut was Malik Davis.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 8: Yeah you think, I mean, right now, you got TP Jones, Rico, Yep,
Speaker 8: Duce Lipkey, that's true.
Speaker 3: I didn't even count Lipkey.
Speaker 7: You're you're keeping five guys in that room.
Speaker 3: You're just not that's not gonna happen. All right? What
Speaker 3: about this one? This is from big Time Cowboy Fan.
Speaker 3: That's that's his name, from Longview your roots. Have you
Speaker 3: guys heard of any offensive linemen that they may sign.
Speaker 3: You talked about a couple of names, maybe not specific names.
Speaker 3: Eighteen minutes, but yeah, we got we got eighteen minutes
Speaker 3: of this deadline. Do you think the do you think
Speaker 3: the offensive line is a spot where they will add talent.
Speaker 3: They will go and add somebody up front. Just just
Speaker 3: on your inkling, just you're are you.
Speaker 6: Asking for a name or the position group center center
Speaker 6: for sure? Okay, yeah, one thousand center, Yeah, go.
Speaker 3: And get a backup center. Yeah. Do you have any names?
Speaker 3: I don't Okay, I do not make sure, John, but I.
Speaker 6: Do feel for the scouts who do know the names,
Speaker 6: because they were up all night this past night.
Speaker 7: I feel for those.
Speaker 1: I got some sleep, Travis Frederick, I don't have anybody now.
Speaker 3: That would be nice. Uh, okay, here's here's a good one.
Speaker 3: How about this? This is Dano says he's from the
Speaker 3: two o three, says, very surprised to see that Neville
Speaker 3: Gallimore stuck around? Is he missing something? He said? Am
Speaker 3: I missed something?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: It don't really start. I feel like, I mean they
Speaker 1: needed another we tackle. That's I mean, Mazzie and Hankins
Speaker 1: fit together and there really wasn't anybody else buying Osa.
Speaker 1: So he's your next guy up. And also man, like
Speaker 1: we talked. We've talked many at times about how hard
Speaker 1: it is to find backup like offensive lineman. Nobody's letting
Speaker 1: good defensive tackles go. No like you're not going to
Speaker 1: find somebody out there on the I mean to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I was pretty surprised that they were
Speaker 1: able to get Hankins last year, Like I mean, for
Speaker 1: what they gave up for him and then the impact
Speaker 1: that he had, I mean, that's I think that's been
Speaker 1: a pretty good value as long as he can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: So defensive tackles just a tough spot.
Speaker 8: So Gallmore's an agile, he's a big He's a big boy,
Speaker 8: especially when he's healthy.
Speaker 3: He's full.
Speaker 7: He's best of both worlds. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 7: got so who's getting there.
Speaker 8: He's a penetrator, you know, create some disruption in back though,
Speaker 8: but gallum work can clog things up, and he can
Speaker 8: get vertical and he can run some stuff down.
Speaker 5: So he's got really good aerodynamics.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 6: It was gonna come down to Gallimore and Bohanna and
Speaker 6: Gallimore had a really good camp for if you were
Speaker 6: looking at that battle.
Speaker 5: Gallimore won that for sure. So it doesn't surprise me
Speaker 5: that he made it by any means.
Speaker 3: Jason from Pennsylvania says, can players be added to the
Speaker 3: practice squad throughout the year if injuries add up? Yes,
Speaker 3: you can you can add and drop from the practice
Speaker 3: squad as the year goes along, So that's a good question.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's sixteen men and then you can elevate
Speaker 3: two right per week, but you can only do that
Speaker 3: for each player three times. You get three elevations from
Speaker 3: the pack. Least.
Speaker 1: That's how it was last year. Unless there's been a rule.
Speaker 3: They switched it. I don't think they have. I think
Speaker 3: that a lot of that was switched during the COVID
Speaker 3: year and then they kept it and it's been that
Speaker 3: way ever since. So yes, Jason, can you can add
Speaker 3: and subtract? This is from the four to six nine.
Speaker 3: It says Rocho doesn't count toward the fifty three man
Speaker 3: roster he's on the suspended list, but I don't he.
Speaker 1: Definitely doesn't count for the fifty three. They have already
Speaker 1: had fifty three guys in the roster.
Speaker 3: And Rojo doesn't. Isn't one of those. No, so you
Speaker 3: can put somebody on the spind it. I haven't dealt
Speaker 3: with this in a long long time.
Speaker 1: It has to be just because he was suspended before.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, like I count right when they
Speaker 1: did all the roster cuts, I listed every all fifty
Speaker 1: three guys in there, and I did not have him
Speaker 1: as one of gotcha.
Speaker 3: So there's your clarification. I did, Like I said, we
Speaker 3: haven't had to deal with the suspended list.
Speaker 1: What was his name?
Speaker 3: This is Rojo or no who oh sorry? Or it
Speaker 3: was just from the four six shutof six four six
Speaker 3: nine doing a great job. But yeah, So there's a
Speaker 3: couple roster cuts and questions along the way, and we'll
Speaker 3: continue to break it down. I mean when we get
Speaker 3: back on the air on Friday, we will have plenty
Speaker 3: more to talk about it. Absolutely, there's gonna be more movement,
Speaker 3: more studying to be done. I'm going to do a
Speaker 3: film study on Noah Igbinoghany and what he did in Miami,
Speaker 3: because I'd be lying to tell you if I watched this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a pronunciation study and get this day say.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, come on, I gotta work on it.
Speaker 5: There is a YouTube video that you know it pronounces
Speaker 5: his name perfectly.
Speaker 3: Okay for him to nah Nahodny Giggy.
Speaker 1: I'm confident that I'll get it down, just because, to me,
Speaker 1: the most difficult name I've ever seen was Anti Takoupo
Speaker 1: and I was like, but you know what, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be good for a long time. I'm just gonna keep saying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying, I'm keep saying and eventually, you know,
Speaker 1: he's become like a household name. But the first time
Speaker 1: I saw that in the back of a jersey, I
Speaker 1: was like, I got no chance at this thing.
Speaker 6: You know what was really difficult for me in my
Speaker 6: recruiting days was DJA having to spell that as well.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, that I had to get down.
Speaker 6: There's them, there's a lot of and he has a
Speaker 6: lot of brothers that are really good, so I had
Speaker 6: to deal with.
Speaker 5: That name for a long time.
Speaker 3: Albert again, Yeah, I thought it was OUI.
Speaker 1: I said, So there's a lot of in all different ways.
Speaker 3: Man, Alberto Quabnam who's now a free agent, tied end Alberdo,
Speaker 3: Jared la Machia.
Speaker 5: That's a big throwback there.
Speaker 3: How about that. Let's just start naming names. That's what
Speaker 3: dudes can do is sit around a table and just
Speaker 3: name all that.
Speaker 1: polyN, I'm telling you, the first one I thought it,
Speaker 1: when you, like we were talking on the break in
Speaker 1: that Washington thing, was Marcus.
Speaker 7: That wasn't names we had to do name.
Speaker 1: Oh damn, but you can pronounce that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my brother though.
Speaker 5: Bromates.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he does. H Bill Kilmer, Sonny Jergensen, Joe, thisman.
Speaker 3: Are these all Washington quarterbacks? No, I don't. I think
Speaker 3: they're Washington commanders commander's quarterbacks. But we're talking about you, Dub.
Speaker 3: And then then he said Warren Moon at the end,
Speaker 3: so I think that's I think he flipped it. That
Speaker 3: was one of the texts that that's the absolutely absolutely Warren. Yes.
Speaker 3: I mean we were walking around.
Speaker 1: Seattle, Napoleon cough, not even a question.
Speaker 3: Can you get Warren Moon on the show one day?
Speaker 7: Probably?
Speaker 3: Can you do that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: You guys are friends like that.
Speaker 7: There's only three of us, four of us in history
Speaker 7: at the school. We stayed pretty close.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Friday, I'm talking cowboys.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: All right, let's uh well, uh, that's it for us.
Speaker 3: Let's go Dan into I know it's fairy quick. Every
Speaker 3: time we get into it. I feel like we can
Speaker 3: keep you going. But that does it for us here today.
Speaker 3: We'll be back on Friday. It is ten am right as.
Speaker 5: Far as I know. Yes, yes, there's nothing going on Friday,
Speaker 5: so yes week.
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