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Speaker 3: Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, screening live from the Dallas

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Speaker 3: pust Kidson, Teddy Paint Touchdowns and now.

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Speaker 4: Your hosts, Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black

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Speaker 3: Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas

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Speaker 3: in the SWBC studios. It is fifty three man cut

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Speaker 3: Down Week and we have plenty to talk about trades,

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Speaker 3: cut downs, and a whole lot more with Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: John Matchodayesa stand Back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. Gentlemen, how we

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Speaker 3: doing doing fantastic well, lots to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: I want to start the show.

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Speaker 6: By congratulating Kyle Yeomans and Isaiah stand Back NBA Award

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Speaker 6: winners in the building today.

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Speaker 3: Fact been nice, Yeah nice.

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Speaker 5: I'm proud of you boys.

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Speaker 7: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. It is it's such a blessing to

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Speaker 3: be able to do what we do on a daily

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Speaker 3: basis and peer recognition is awesome. I really think it's

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Speaker 3: a great thing. And the fact that that Isaiah gets

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Speaker 3: nominated and wins for Best Analysts, I mean that's long overdue.

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Speaker 1: Let's get the behind the scenes. What were the reactions, like, Oh, man,

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Speaker 1: did you expect to win?

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Speaker 7: Did you?

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Speaker 3: I didn't either, I really didn't. I did not.

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Speaker 8: I I honestly, I mean, this probably sounds bad, but

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Speaker 8: I didn't know the severity or the importance of this

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Speaker 8: entire anything. You know what I'm saying, Like, I just

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Speaker 8: didn't just do it to do it. I'm still relatively

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Speaker 8: new in this industry's I mean, Kyle knows me. I'm

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Speaker 8: locked in, man, I just so, I really didn't. I

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Speaker 8: didn't have a speech.

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Speaker 3: I literally got up and spoke on him. I spoke

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, I thank God, I think my wife,

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Speaker 8: I thank my teammates, everybody you know I consider here

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Speaker 7: I thank my coach.

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Speaker 9: And that was it.

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Speaker 3: I was about it.

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Speaker 8: There dropped the mic. But I did not expect I

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Speaker 8: really didn't expect it. I was going up against Mark mcklamore,

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Speaker 8: you know, and I used to watch him. I was

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Speaker 8: a baseball dude, right so he's playing for the Mariners.

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Speaker 8: I used to go down to the Kingdome, walk down

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Speaker 8: we know each other. But like to go against him

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Speaker 8: now that's kind of kind of full circle, but but

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Speaker 8: I was. I was blessed, honored. Man, this guy another hand.

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Speaker 8: I fully expected him to win.

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Speaker 1: Came there with like a whole expect this guys.

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Speaker 3: First off, his speech to the telepropherty I went, I

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Speaker 3: went all the way through that that day, and first off,

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Speaker 3: And then we got there and just getting to see

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Speaker 3: He Scruggs, who's of course on the Player's lounge and

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Speaker 3: business and in this whole process, and so it was

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Speaker 3: really cool. It was really cool. I didn't have a

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Speaker 3: So I went up there and I was like, yep, wife, coach, god, yeap,

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Speaker 8: But I didn't even think about trying to You're involved

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Speaker 8: I mean, the team here is ridiculous, you know, and

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of amazing talent that comes through these doors. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: because I mean, this is the greatest brand in sports.

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Speaker 8: And I think a lot of times, you know, you're

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Speaker 7: And then to be recognized, you know, as especially at

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Speaker 8: Me from my perspective as just a young spring chicken

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Speaker 1: It was also too that like what we were just

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Speaker 1: walking in here, Yeah, Stephen Jones was walking by in

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Speaker 1: the hallway. It was like, hey, congratulations, Isaiah whatever.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, they know, they know. The cool thing

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Speaker 3: For me, it was Isaiah and I really kind of

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Speaker 3: started this journey together. I mean we were on Talking

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Speaker 3: I think I did four shows without you before you House,

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Speaker 3: the COVID edition, yeah, twenty twenty, and then we hopped

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Speaker 3: on Talking Cowboys. Of course, that's kind of stayed the

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about.

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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: That's what that's what we're here for. Let's where do

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Speaker 3: you guys want to start? You want to start with

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Speaker 3: the fifty three man cut downs. You're wearing your under

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Speaker 3: lip key North Dakota State Green to Paris.

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Speaker 5: Sure as did you know?

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Speaker 6: I started the Hunter Lucky fan Club the day he

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Speaker 3: But no, no, true, thirty one thousand or thirty six thousand,

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Speaker 5: I'm here, I'd give you that, but honestly, I was

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Speaker 6: I will say that I thought they were going to

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Speaker 6: Sean McEwen or Hunter Lkey, I would have been like, Okay, McEwen.

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Speaker 6: I was pretty surprised. I and you know, the more

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Speaker 6: I've been thinking about it, it makes sense. I guess

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Speaker 6: lot of fascinating things that I think went into that decision.

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Speaker 6: I think that's one of the more interesting ones my

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Speaker 3: In addition to thirty two roster cuts, yesterday, Cowboys put

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Speaker 3: start with Jabrill Cox. I think that's a pretty massive one.

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Speaker 3: And Isaiah I know, whenever he was selected, I was

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I hate it being the guy that you know,

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Speaker 8: I'm a straight shooter, but I know you've heard me

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Speaker 7: Say that knees just not not the same.

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Speaker 8: But the reality is, once he had that injury, his

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Speaker 1: My biggest surprise with that is just because of how

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Speaker 1: And then as you mentioned Lipke and not going with

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Speaker 1: Sean McCune just because you know, even when Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, that's those are the tough ones

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's because there's probably a ton of guys you're letting

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Speaker 1: go that you're just like, yeah, but you know we wanted,

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Speaker 3: That was gonna be. My next question is do you

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Speaker 8: But Hunter Lipke can do a similar thing. I mean

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Speaker 1: Speaking of special teams real quick, were you guys surprised

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Speaker 3: I want to I want to wait until the second

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Speaker 1: Kind of a notable move. That's a very notable move.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to talk about it significantly because

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Speaker 3: The third one was brock Hoffman. We kept brock Hoffman

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Speaker 3: even though we had kind of.

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Speaker 1: A don't think I don't think we had a sixth receiver.

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Speaker 3: And then we did not have a sixth receiver.

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Speaker 1: That's the only one I can think of. Yeah, we

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Speaker 3: We I think we cut Brooks too, is Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: But it's not I mean, ahead, what were you gonna say.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, it's not fully settled yet, right

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there will be a backup center on this

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Speaker 3: Good Win?

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Speaker 1: Right, I mean again, I know we'll talk about it,

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Speaker 1: but like especially losing Kelvin Joseph, I don't see how

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Speaker 1: They're going to bring him back.

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Speaker 3: They kept every single one of their draft picks too.

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Speaker 3: Miles Brooks got cut unfortunately, uh Eric Scott junior and

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Speaker 3: they got they brought back Jalen Brooks. I mean multiple

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Speaker 5: But then three undrafted guys again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again the rookie class is it carries a lot

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Speaker 1: I told you going into camp they keep three undrafted guys.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think that either Wheat or Land would be

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think.

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Speaker 1: One of them on the fifth l for Land, that's right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: grade on Wheat. I mean they were very high on

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Speaker 1: They really like to know what their grade was on bass.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that one.

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Speaker 1: I can ask the athletic We lean heavily on Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 3: I had a fifth round grade.

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Speaker 3: I'll look into it. I'll see if I can talk

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: My mind automatically goes to some of the strategy that

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Speaker 8: and you know that don't have to try to clear

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Speaker 8: but may not be by the.

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Speaker 7: End of the week. And then you know, hopefully they slipped.

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Speaker 8: Through the cracks because everybody's not trying to grab all

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Speaker 3: Sneak them.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's a lot of that stuff that still

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Speaker 7: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I will say every time I see Isaiah Land's name

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Speaker 6: on Twitter, I just want to report the tweet, like.

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Speaker 3: Get his name off the time.

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Speaker 5: You can't tweet about until noon.

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Speaker 3: Get him out of here, all right, everybody and talking

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Nation, No more tweeting about Isaiah Land. We got

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Speaker 3: to keep them for at.

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Speaker 5: Least the next forty three minutes. Let's just keep it quiet.

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Speaker 3: So that's when the deadline is is forty three minutes

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Speaker 3: from now. That's when what is that deadline exact?

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Speaker 6: That'll be the claim waivers deadline. So anybody that is

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Speaker 6: I think there's going to be at least two guys

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Speaker 7: That's what I think.

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Speaker 3: Do you if that's the case, and I agree, and

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Speaker 3: say reports are yeah, we can kind of keep it

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Speaker 3: very generic, but yeah, plenty. Still moving the back and forth.

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Speaker 3: The the strategy that's at hand with building this fifty

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Speaker 3: to it. The Cowboys trade for a former first rounder

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Speaker 1: I can't wait here.

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Speaker 3: After that move, we've just coined the term rowdy replay.

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Speaker 3: Let's roll back the table.

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Speaker 4: Okay, there's our mascot rowdy cheering on the boys, and

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Speaker 3: on so white mobile devices. Message in dat raisy, apply

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Speaker 3: a number FDIC.

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Speaker 9: Welcome back into Dear Doctor, the show where I am

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Speaker 9: so questions with an ice cold can of doctor pepper, Sheila,

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Speaker 9: let's hear from my next caller, would you, dear doctor?

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Speaker 2: My friend supported me during a tough time, But what's

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Speaker 2: the right gift that says thanks for being a soldier

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Speaker 2: to cry out.

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Speaker 9: Okay, this one's easy, I say, give her a delicious

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Speaker 9: Doctor Pepper. Nothing says thanks good better than one of

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Speaker 9: a kind soda. Yes, any Doctor Pepper flavor will do. Now,

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Speaker 9: just a reminder that I don't need to be a

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Speaker 9: real doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the one

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Speaker 9: you deserve.

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Speaker 3: Coffee Company. By the way, send us a text eight

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470
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Speaker 3: your text messages this direction. Ask us about the raw,

471
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Speaker 3: asks us about the roster building. Any question is good,

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Speaker 3: especially if it comes to where Isaiah got his tucks

473
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Speaker 3: the other day for the Emmy nomination and the Emmy

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Speaker 3: Award show, because I want to know as well. So

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Speaker 3: Holme's got some chamber, goeh, got something ready to go?

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Speaker 1: As in a rental or this is real?

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Speaker 10: What?

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Speaker 7: Okay? I scoured the universe for suits and Texas.

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Speaker 1: He actually just don't have enough important things to go

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Speaker 1: do to own a tux. I'd like to have I'd

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Speaker 1: like to have a few suits, but I just don't

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Speaker 1: feel like I do enough that I could utilize the

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Speaker 1: tucks enough.

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Speaker 8: I actually went shopping yesterday just you know. There's a

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Speaker 8: couple of spots I go to listen for everybody that

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Speaker 8: needs suits or tuxes.

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Speaker 7: You about to give up this, I'm no, no, I'm

488
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Speaker 7: gonna get plug. I'm not geting paid by the body.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 8: But there are a couple of spots that you go

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Speaker 8: to right now if you want to pay for your boy,

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Speaker 8: I'll give you a shot out. Oh, this is the

493
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Speaker 8: time of the year for those that need suits. Okay,

494
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Speaker 8: this is when you go and you look for suit

495
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Speaker 8: deals because they're transitioning seasons. They're going from summer to

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Speaker 8: fall and they have to get rid of stuff, so

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Speaker 8: you ol during this time you go to your local

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Speaker 8: suit stores whatever those are, okay, and that's when you

499
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Speaker 8: go straight Today They're like, how can I help you today?

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Speaker 7: Where are your cells? And you go there and you

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Speaker 7: get everything for the lo lo huh.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're back here on talking fashion.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lol. You know, I didn't get an invite

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Speaker 3: to go shopping.

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Speaker 8: This is the only thing I did it right. For

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Speaker 8: our picture where you at, I was moving. I had

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Speaker 8: to I had to pack the box of the house.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, apologies, but yeah. So there you go. There's

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Speaker 3: Isaiah looking fresh as always. I dare you to wear

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Speaker 3: a suit on Friday to the show tomorrow, but you'll

513
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Speaker 3: wear one tomorrow. Fine, all right? No what Benogany is

514
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Speaker 3: now a piece of the Dallas Cowboys secondary. Cowboys trade

515
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Speaker 3: former second round pick Kelvin Joseph second round pick in

516
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, to the Miami Dolphins, just to straight

517
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Speaker 3: up cornerback trade. And really it was a similar situation,

518
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Speaker 3: but just one more year down the line and one

519
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Speaker 3: more round up for IgG Benogany as opposed to Calvin

520
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Speaker 3: Joseph because he was drafted in twenty twenty he was

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Speaker 3: a first round pick and then turns around and is

522
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Speaker 3: in Miami in a crowded secondary, and they were looking

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Speaker 3: at ways to either cut him or release him or

524
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Speaker 3: trade him, and Dallas said, well, let's see if a

525
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Speaker 3: change of scenery can help both of these teams out.

526
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Speaker 3: But I really like to deal overall, because you don't

527
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Speaker 3: necessarily lose anything except for one of those fifty three

528
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Speaker 3: roster spots. That's the only thing I think you might

529
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Speaker 3: lose in this scenario. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think it's set.

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Speaker 6: If they were wanting to covin Joseph instead of cutting him,

532
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Speaker 6: you get a guy for him, and a guy who

533
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Speaker 6: is a former first round pick, as you said, probably

534
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Speaker 6: a guy that probably should have been in the second

535
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Speaker 6: round coming out of that twenty three draft, but nevertheless

536
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Speaker 6: he got late first. Noah, Igbinoghany, he's still twenty three.

537
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Speaker 6: He's younger than Kelvin somehow, And I like it because,

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Speaker 6: like you said, there's nothing to lose. If it doesn't

539
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Speaker 6: work out, then okay, then you know you've lost the

540
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Speaker 6: roster spot that you were gonna give up. Anyway, it

541
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Speaker 6: does work out, then everyone looks smart and everyone's happy.

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Speaker 6: I think for Igbinoghany, you know, he's more of a

543
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Speaker 6: boundary guy. Kelvin was more of an inside guy. It's

544
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Speaker 6: gonna work out great for Kelvin in Miami because they

545
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Speaker 6: need an inside guy to kind of fill in and

546
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Speaker 6: play some time there. He's gonna get a ton of

547
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Speaker 6: reps this year. He will be playing on Christmas Eve

548
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Speaker 6: if he's healthy, knock on wood, and then Noah Igbinoghany,

549
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Speaker 6: he will be able to sit behind Stefan Gilmour and

550
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Speaker 6: Trayvon Diggs, which you know, just depending on how long

551
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Speaker 6: Stefan Gilmour is here. Who knows by the time that

552
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Speaker 6: he's you know, getting to his father time noggbnogan, he's

553
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Speaker 6: ready to step in. So I don't hate the move.

554
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Speaker 6: And you know, if you're thinking optimistically, then it works out.

555
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Speaker 6: But if you're thinking pessimistically, which is honestly probably the

556
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Speaker 6: more realistic option at times, then probably you see know

557
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Speaker 6: what Igbinoghany not working out down the line just because

558
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Speaker 6: of what he's not been able to do on the

559
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Speaker 6: field as a first round pick for Miami. But I think,

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Speaker 6: I think if you're thinking optimistically, then this is a

561
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Speaker 6: good trade here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like both teams are trying to maybe

563
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Speaker 1: get somebody that can jumpstart their career with just a

564
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Speaker 1: change of scenery. You know, hey, this isn't working out here,

565
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Speaker 1: this isn't working out here. Let's try and make a

566
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Speaker 1: move and maybe it'll work out for at least one

567
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Speaker 1: of the two. I just keep going back to that

568
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft because there was just such an emphasis

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Speaker 1: I get in a corner. Yeah, And I remember just

570
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Speaker 1: all those mocks leading up to that draft that you know,

571
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Speaker 1: you got top ten pick, you you gotta be able

572
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Speaker 1: to get certain or or j C. Horn out of that,

573
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Speaker 1: and then they go both go boom boom right there,

574
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Speaker 1: and then you just have to, I guess, deal with

575
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Speaker 1: taking Micael Parsons and just see so make the best

576
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Speaker 1: of it. But it just felt like after that it

577
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Speaker 1: was like they were trying to really get a corner,

578
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Speaker 1: no matter how whoever it was going to be it

579
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Speaker 1: with that second round pick, hoping that you get the

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Speaker 1: same return on investment they did when they got Trayvon

581
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Speaker 1: Diggs and it just never worked out. So I think

582
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Speaker 1: for them to get something, even even if this doesn't

583
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Speaker 1: work out, it's better than just you know, outright releasing him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And some of the guys that corner that went

585
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Speaker 3: after kill the Joseph there was only one other corner

586
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Speaker 3: in the second.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Floor to State football fan, I really,

588
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Speaker 1: but I know his size doesn't fit what they were

589
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Speaker 1: looking for.

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Speaker 3: The size wasn't what they wanted, But I wanted him

591
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Speaker 3: so bad, and it was a Sante Samuel junior out

592
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Speaker 3: of Florida State, And he was the only other second

593
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Speaker 3: round corner that year. After that, Paulson Adebo corner from

594
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Speaker 3: Stanford went in the third round. A little bit further down,

595
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Speaker 3: there was a run of corners later after Nashan Wright.

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Speaker 3: Actually it was then nay Sean Wright, followed by a

597
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Speaker 3: few Melifan Wu from Syracuse and Brandon Stevens from SMU.

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Speaker 5: That was good at this pronunciation. Things do a lot

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Speaker 5: of research.

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Speaker 1: I never was I never thought of Calvin Joseph as

601
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Speaker 1: being like a first round quality player. Like so you

602
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Speaker 1: know how some people talked, go for it, say it,

603
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Speaker 1: you know, going in then draft, people talked a little

604
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Speaker 1: bit about he had like first round two. I just

605
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Speaker 1: never saw that.

606
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Speaker 3: I didn't either, And honestly, let me go to my grade.

607
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Speaker 3: I keep all my grades for all these guys I had. Yeah,

608
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Speaker 3: I had Kelvin Joseph as the seventeenth ranked corner in

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Speaker 3: that class.

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Speaker 5: So it's corner third, mid third, late third, that's like

611
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Speaker 5: late fourth, late fourth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like one one ninth was his overall grade. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I had one nineteen. The one thing I liked about

614
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Speaker 3: him was a speed He ran a four to three

615
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Speaker 3: four with a one four to fourth split.

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Speaker 1: So my whole thing about when it comes to like

617
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Speaker 1: the pre draft stuff, is it just you just don't

618
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Speaker 1: really know what's going on behind the scenes, Like you know,

619
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Speaker 1: you can watch a player in that, but you don't

620
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Speaker 1: know what it could be off the field other stuff

621
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Speaker 1: like that. And clearly the teams have that advantage to

622
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Speaker 1: get a chance to meet with guys and things like that.

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Speaker 1: I remember multiple people went from the Cowboys organization, you know,

624
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Speaker 1: to Kentucky, uh to scout him. I want to say

625
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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn went. Maybe Dan went with Will I think

626
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: he did because they got Bohanna and Calvin Ei of that.

627
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Speaker 3: Yep, I think you're right.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that was a tough year to draft too, though,

630
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Speaker 1: because that was coming off the COVID year.

631
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Speaker 3: I don't think there was no combin no combine right,

632
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Speaker 3: no combine well.

633
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Speaker 1: By writers that The Athletic wrote about that with the

634
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Speaker 1: lance thing that yeah, maybe it was a bad time

635
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: for one of our niners. Writers wrote about that, like, yeah,

636
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: this might have been a bad time to gamble on

637
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: a quarterback to trade three first round picks just because

638
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Speaker 1: there was so much uncertainty going into that draft class.

639
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Speaker 5: Yeah, limited experience too. It's fascinating to me.

640
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Speaker 3: What do you guys think about iggbonogamy and kind of

641
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: the rotation there now because nay Sean Wright is still

642
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: on this team, you have on the back end, is

643
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: you mcwualm who's still on this team? You have some

644
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 3: boundary guys. I know mcwam who plays both. But do

645
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: you feel like he can find a way into the

646
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: rotation as a guy like this or are they going

647
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 3: to try and fit him into that rotation with now

648
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: that Kelvin's gone, Are they going to force some of

649
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: the iggbanogany opportunities? Maybe?

650
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Speaker 8: I don't know.

651
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 7: I think I don't know.

652
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 8: I think some of these guys again and just goes

653
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 8: to the specialist because you have your solid three dbs

654
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 8: for this team and then you have a horde of safeties,

655
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 8: so you're on the field with six dbs most of

656
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 8: the time. Yeah, and it's gonna be hard to break

657
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 8: that rotation. It's just really it just really is because

658
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Speaker 8: those guys aren't really rotating out, they're not coming off

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Speaker 8: the field. They're almost like old light man. They just

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Speaker 8: don't really come out at least at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 8: So I think, you know, obviously the depending on the

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Speaker 8: health of Jay Lou, that's always going to play a

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Speaker 8: part into some of these guys opportunities as well how

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Speaker 8: long it takes for him to really touch the field.

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Speaker 8: But I think aside for their fourth guy up, and

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Speaker 8: if you have to talk about, like, well, who's the

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Speaker 8: fourth guy to touch the field at the cornerback position,

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Speaker 8: I think I have to go with probably Nashaw until

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Speaker 8: Jay Lou gets healthy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I think he would play by necessity like Monogheny. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and hopefully that necessity is not experienced. Yeah, because that

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Speaker 6: would take a couple of guys getting injured. I think

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Speaker 6: I think that would take one of either Trayvon or

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Speaker 6: staff On and then na Sean Wright.

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Speaker 8: So I think I can say again, I know he

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Speaker 8: keeps saying special teams like both also I think had

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Speaker 8: his hand.

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Speaker 7: On a lot of these decisions.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I really, I really believe that because he lost,

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Speaker 8: Like I've mentioned it before, he lost two core special

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Speaker 8: teamers Luke Gifford last year, Noah Brown last year, and

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Speaker 8: then you Kelvin Joseph this year.

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Speaker 7: Those are three of his six core special teamers.

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Speaker 1: He's probably helping for something out of uh the Marvin

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Speaker 1: overshown too.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely. I know, you know, I talked to him about

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Speaker 7: a couple weeks ago. He was heartbroke.

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Speaker 6: He had taken that Gifford role for Yeah, so who

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Speaker 6: takes those roles? In your opinion, we got Jalen Brooks

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Speaker 6: that probably takes to know.

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Speaker 7: Ye yeah, yep, one ye is that guy. But Bill

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Speaker 7: Jua ye Bill, both.

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Speaker 3: Of those guys with them are here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: So they still went heavy in safety in corner like

696
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Speaker 3: secondary was heavy, kind of like what we expected. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we took twelve guys between the two and they ended

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Speaker 3: up with thirteen.

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Speaker 8: Right, I mean because the versatility with that size, you

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Speaker 8: could do a lot. Yeah, I mean you could do

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Speaker 8: a lot. I mean that's why all the injuries Eye sustained.

702
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Speaker 8: I was able to keep jobs just because of the versatility.

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Speaker 8: If you're if you have good size, you got speed,

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Speaker 8: and you and you are willing to go out there

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Speaker 8: and put your head in there and get some contact,

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Speaker 8: You're gonna have plenty opportunities.

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Speaker 1: So are we seeing the NFL? You know how, there's

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Speaker 1: obviously the devaluing of the wide receiver, I mean the

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Speaker 1: running back position, Like how how like is it going

710
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Speaker 1: to start affecting linebacker like this because like you know,

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Speaker 1: jay Ryn Curse is talking to the locker room today

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Speaker 1: about how you know the way that everyone's spreading you

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Speaker 1: out nowadays in the NFL, you're getting more and more

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Speaker 1: safeties in there. Is it gonna start getting to a

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Speaker 1: point where like team and just really have two or

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Speaker 1: three traditional linebackers and then have a bunch of dB

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Speaker 1: type guys like that.

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Speaker 8: It's all predicated on the type of offenses that you're

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Speaker 8: seeing now. Yeah, I mean back in the day it

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Speaker 8: was run heavy. Yeah, so you need to be this

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Speaker 8: big linebacker. Now if the league's pass heavy, so you

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Speaker 8: don't need as many big guys because you have to

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Speaker 8: be able to cover you know, Kyle receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, So the game's changed now. You can

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Speaker 3: say those are directly connected, honestly, because the devaluation of

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Speaker 3: the running back position leads to the devaluation of the

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Speaker 3: linebacker position. It also goes back to the big nickel.

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Speaker 3: You think about the way that teams run the big

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Speaker 3: nickel now, like it's just a normal base defense as

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Speaker 3: opposed to ten. Fifteen years ago, teams didn't run the

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Speaker 3: big nickel but at all unless it was a specific scheme,

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Speaker 3: and now it's almost a normal thing in the l

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Speaker 3: NFL because of the way the tight ends are utilized

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Speaker 3: in the versatility of the passing game. And honestly, I

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Speaker 3: think it also has to do a lot with a

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Speaker 3: lot with the RPO too, and the way that the

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Speaker 3: run pass option has come into play, because if you

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Speaker 3: talk about the RPO, linebackers need to read for like

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Speaker 3: one or two plays and then the rest of it,

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Speaker 3: it's the secondary that's who's really doing a lot of

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Speaker 3: the reading and a lot of the covering.

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Speaker 1: That was It was interesting today, like when Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: was out there with Tree Lance, they were they were

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Speaker 1: working on a little bit of that, a little bit yeah,

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Speaker 1: about how they like to hold the ball and like

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Speaker 1: if in their style and then pull it back and

747
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Speaker 1: things like that.

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Speaker 7: It was interesting.

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Speaker 3: That is super interesting. One last thing on Noah Igbinogay.

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Speaker 3: Have y'all ever just gone back and looked at the

751
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty draft class of corners and how odd this was.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go now, I'm just going to go

753
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Speaker 3: down the list. These are the guys that I had

754
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Speaker 3: him ranked. This isn't the way that that they went,

755
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Speaker 3: but you'll recognize some of the guys. Jeff Okuda already

756
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Speaker 3: traded in good did not work top top ten pick.

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Speaker 5: I thought he was going to be I thought he

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Speaker 5: was dude.

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Speaker 3: I had him number number five overall player uh CJ Henderson, Oof,

760
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Speaker 3: Jeff Gladney, the late Jeff Gladney, H Christian Fulton. He's

761
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Speaker 3: been okay, He's been okay in the league. AJ Terrell

762
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Speaker 3: has been great, Trayvon Diggs has been great. Then it

763
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Speaker 3: goes Damon arnettof Jalen Johnson, Oof, Cameron Danceler, and Noah

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Speaker 3: Eggbinogady goodness. So just just a roller coaster of corners

765
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Speaker 3: at this point in that twenty twenty draft class that

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Speaker 3: just didn't work out. That was also the same draft

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Speaker 3: class that the Cowboys took Reggie Robinson the second in

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Speaker 3: the fourth round.

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Speaker 1: So just oh, yeah, you got about him. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wonder what he's up to.

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Speaker 3: I don't know care.

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Speaker 8: I know I did about Will Greer getting shoot. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but he chose not to come back here, right, isn't

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Speaker 8: that a practice squad?

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Speaker 7: You get to choose where you go. It's not that's

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Speaker 7: not a pickup. You get the your agent cause you.

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Speaker 1: I think that he I think he got claimed, so

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know if he has a

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Speaker 1: saying that I could.

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Speaker 7: Be a practice squad would be wrong.

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Speaker 3: Claimed you.

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Speaker 1: Fifty three practice squad.

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Speaker 7: You get to choose.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Patrick Walker told me earlier in the week that

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Speaker 6: you if you're claimed off waivers, you can either go

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Speaker 6: there or stay where you're at.

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Speaker 5: Now, don't come at me, come come at no seat.

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Speaker 7: But he's signed, yeah, character yeah, so he so he

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Speaker 7: he chose to go to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: But that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: Why before here, I understood.

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Speaker 8: What I'm saying about after coach McCarthy's comments about how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 8: I just thought that was interesting because Will had probably

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Speaker 8: had a chance to come back here and he was like, yeah.

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Speaker 7: No, I appreciate a coach. But now I'm good. I'm

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Speaker 7: going over here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at since he's depth chart, I was

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Speaker 5: trying to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll be three I any of their backup is

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Speaker 1: but he won't be I don't think he said it's.

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Speaker 3: One of those career backups, one of the long Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Jake Browning, so you dope. Yeah, that's only I said,

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Speaker 3: career backup. That's all he was. He was prime brown

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Speaker 3: after not.

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Speaker 7: He does not fit the mold of us.

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Speaker 5: That's the second best watched the quarterback.

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Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake, I was about to say each was really good.

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Speaker 1: you're playing a guy a lot because you wanted to

877
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: show you something. But then there's other guys like I'll

878
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: give you a good example, like Jalen Brooks. You don't

879
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: think he needed to play like They're like, I don't know,

880
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Like I felt like they now looking back on it,

881
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: knowing what we know, they're probably like, yeah, we've seen

882
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: enough there, But I don't. I just don't think they

883
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: let Lipke play that much. If it was like, oh no, no,

884
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: we already know that you're on the roster. I think

885
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: that the way he played in that game worked a spot.

886
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with you, because.

887
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: I think more so than anybody else in that game.

888
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he said it. He said it.

889
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: Karthy said that, I think you also play the factor

890
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 3: of when when he had the start to camp, there

891
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 3: was a lot of I mean, there were expectations. I

892
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 3: really liked Hunter Lipky too, but the expectation was that

893
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: he was going to be a versatile athletic blocker, slash,

894
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: well rounded receiver and YadA YadA YadA, and he could

895
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: do a whole lot of different things. And then he

896
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 3: just never really could show the balance for the vision

897
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: or whatever it ended up being in these practices to show, hey,

898
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 3: he's worth taking one of those fifty three roster spots.

899
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: And then the way he played with Will Greer in

900
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: that final preseason game was finally an aha, like, Oh,

901
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: that's that's what we were looking for, Like, that's the

902
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: moment we were looking for. You and I were sitting

903
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: in the booth and we were kind of joking with

904
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: each other back and forth, like he's going to mess

905
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: around and make this team. But I don't know if

906
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: we really believed that until like the second half, whenever

907
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, I think he actually is going

908
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: to play in and make his make his way onto

909
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: the team.

910
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 6: When he had those back to back receptions that eventually

911
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 6: led into the touchdown. That's when I was like, Okay,

912
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 6: he's at least cemented a practice squad spot. Sure, but

913
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 6: it still surprised me that he made the fifty three.

914
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 6: It still surprises me. But having a fullback like John Coon,

915
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 6: when Mike McCarthy had that during his days at Green Bay,

916
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 6: and that just wants you, that wants you feed in

917
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 6: for the next one.

918
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 5: He wants it back.

919
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: Find a way.

920
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, well.

921
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 5: Exactly.

922
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: Also, you know, parting ways with Ezekiel Elliott took way

923
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: one of your bigger backs like that that you could

924
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: use in goal line situation, shortyard and stuff like that.

925
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: So I know we had talked about before, like back

926
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: when we were out knock start about the whole idea

927
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: of like if they don't have one of these bigger backs,

928
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: are they going to get Maybe they think that from

929
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: what they've seen from him, he can fill a little

930
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: bit of that role.

931
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: I'll tell you this one hundred.

932
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 6: Look he scores a touchdown this year, I'm going to

933
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 6: be ruthless the next day on the show, I'm going

934
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 6: to be unbearable.

935
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 3: Can you get a jersey? It's just like it's hard

936
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: to cover Jason.

937
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll make it work now that he made the

938
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 6: fifty three. It's in the works, it's already done. Oh No,

939
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 6: I just love fullbacks. I'm a big full because you

940
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 6: are a fullback. Stand you was your favorite fullback. I

941
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 6: really like used Check And that's probably recency biased, but

942
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 6: I love you Check, I really do.

943
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 7: Man.

944
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: I grew up around the whole Darryl Moose, Johnston, Tom Rathman. Yeah,

945
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: like it was just such a big part of whenever

946
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, Cowboys Niners and that. I don't I feel

947
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: bad for you though, because I think the game's going

948
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: away from that.

949
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: It is, it is.

950
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: That's why I love him so much. To be able

951
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 5: to find a niche in this league at a position

952
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 5: like that, it's tough.

953
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 3: It's a throwback to throwback, all right. Anthony from Seattle

954
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 3: up there in the Pacific Northwest, He says, what decisions

955
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: do you think the team will make once Ronald Jones

956
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 3: is off suspension, especially if the running backs currently perform well, Isaiah,

957
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: what do you think about the running back position? Because

958
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: Ronald Jones is still sticking around, at least at the moment.

959
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 7: At least at the moment, what question.

960
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 5: Is he counting towards the fifty three? I think he

961
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 5: has to he is, right, that's so interesting.

962
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 7: Sorry, No, I really don't.

963
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 8: I don't see a role currently for him. I also

964
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 8: don't see them carrying all these running backs. So something's

965
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 8: going to happen over the next few days. I feel

966
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 8: I'll just stand by.

967
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 5: In the position group in that position.

968
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 7: You're not keeping all those guys, h absolutely not, No, absolutely.

969
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: They kept four of the five. The only one that

970
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 3: they cut was Malik Davis.

971
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a lot.

972
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 8: Yeah you think, I mean, right now, you got TP Jones, Rico, Yep,

973
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 8: Duce Lipkey, that's true.

974
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: I didn't even count Lipkey.

975
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 7: You're you're keeping five guys in that room.

976
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: You're just not that's not gonna happen. All right? What

977
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: about this one? This is from big Time Cowboy Fan.

978
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: That's that's his name, from Longview your roots. Have you

979
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: guys heard of any offensive linemen that they may sign.

980
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: You talked about a couple of names, maybe not specific names.

981
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 3: Eighteen minutes, but yeah, we got we got eighteen minutes

982
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: of this deadline. Do you think the do you think

983
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: the offensive line is a spot where they will add talent.

984
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: They will go and add somebody up front. Just just

985
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: on your inkling, just you're are you.

986
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: Asking for a name or the position group center center

987
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 6: for sure? Okay, yeah, one thousand center, Yeah, go.

988
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: And get a backup center. Yeah. Do you have any names?

989
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't Okay, I do not make sure, John, but I.

990
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 6: Do feel for the scouts who do know the names,

991
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 6: because they were up all night this past night.

992
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 7: I feel for those.

993
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: I got some sleep, Travis Frederick, I don't have anybody now.

994
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: That would be nice. Uh, okay, here's here's a good one.

995
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: How about this? This is Dano says he's from the

996
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: two o three, says, very surprised to see that Neville

997
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: Gallimore stuck around? Is he missing something? He said? Am

998
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: I missed something?

999
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: Uh?

1000
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: It don't really start. I feel like, I mean they

1001
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: needed another we tackle. That's I mean, Mazzie and Hankins

1002
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: fit together and there really wasn't anybody else buying Osa.

1003
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: So he's your next guy up. And also man, like

1004
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: we talked. We've talked many at times about how hard

1005
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: it is to find backup like offensive lineman. Nobody's letting

1006
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: good defensive tackles go. No like you're not going to

1007
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: find somebody out there on the I mean to be

1008
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: honest with you, I was pretty surprised that they were

1009
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: able to get Hankins last year, Like I mean, for

1010
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: what they gave up for him and then the impact

1011
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: that he had, I mean, that's I think that's been

1012
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: a pretty good value as long as he can stay healthy.

1013
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: So defensive tackles just a tough spot.

1014
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 8: So Gallmore's an agile, he's a big He's a big boy,

1015
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 8: especially when he's healthy.

1016
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: He's full.

1017
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 7: He's best of both worlds. I mean, you know, you

1018
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 7: got so who's getting there.

1019
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 8: He's a penetrator, you know, create some disruption in back though,

1020
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 8: but gallum work can clog things up, and he can

1021
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 8: get vertical and he can run some stuff down.

1022
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: So he's got really good aerodynamics.

1023
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 7: Exactly.

1024
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 6: It was gonna come down to Gallimore and Bohanna and

1025
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 6: Gallimore had a really good camp for if you were

1026
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 6: looking at that battle.

1027
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: Gallimore won that for sure. So it doesn't surprise me

1028
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 5: that he made it by any means.

1029
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: Jason from Pennsylvania says, can players be added to the

1030
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: practice squad throughout the year if injuries add up? Yes,

1031
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: you can you can add and drop from the practice

1032
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: squad as the year goes along, So that's a good question.

1033
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's sixteen men and then you can elevate

1034
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: two right per week, but you can only do that

1035
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 3: for each player three times. You get three elevations from

1036
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 3: the pack. Least.

1037
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: That's how it was last year. Unless there's been a rule.

1038
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: They switched it. I don't think they have. I think

1039
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,439
Speaker 3: that a lot of that was switched during the COVID

1040
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: year and then they kept it and it's been that

1041
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: way ever since. So yes, Jason, can you can add

1042
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 3: and subtract? This is from the four to six nine.

1043
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: It says Rocho doesn't count toward the fifty three man

1044
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: roster he's on the suspended list, but I don't he.

1045
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: Definitely doesn't count for the fifty three. They have already

1046
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: had fifty three guys in the roster.

1047
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: And Rojo doesn't. Isn't one of those. No, so you

1048
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: can put somebody on the spind it. I haven't dealt

1049
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: with this in a long long time.

1050
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: It has to be just because he was suspended before.

1051
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, like I count right when they

1052
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: did all the roster cuts, I listed every all fifty

1053
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: three guys in there, and I did not have him

1054
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: as one of gotcha.

1055
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: So there's your clarification. I did, Like I said, we

1056
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: haven't had to deal with the suspended list.

1057
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: What was his name?

1058
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: This is Rojo or no who oh sorry? Or it

1059
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 3: was just from the four six shutof six four six

1060
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 3: nine doing a great job. But yeah, So there's a

1061
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: couple roster cuts and questions along the way, and we'll

1062
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: continue to break it down. I mean when we get

1063
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: back on the air on Friday, we will have plenty

1064
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: more to talk about it. Absolutely, there's gonna be more movement,

1065
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: more studying to be done. I'm going to do a

1066
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: film study on Noah Igbinoghany and what he did in Miami,

1067
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: because I'd be lying to tell you if I watched this.

1068
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a pronunciation study and get this day say.

1069
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, come on, I gotta work on it.

1070
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 5: There is a YouTube video that you know it pronounces

1071
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: his name perfectly.

1072
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 3: Okay for him to nah Nahodny Giggy.

1073
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm confident that I'll get it down, just because, to me,

1074
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: the most difficult name I've ever seen was Anti Takoupo

1075
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: and I was like, but you know what, he's gonna

1076
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: be good for a long time. I'm just gonna keep saying.

1077
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying, I'm keep saying and eventually, you know,

1078
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: he's become like a household name. But the first time

1079
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: I saw that in the back of a jersey, I

1080
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: was like, I got no chance at this thing.

1081
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 6: You know what was really difficult for me in my

1082
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 6: recruiting days was DJA having to spell that as well.

1083
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 5: So, yeah, that I had to get down.

1084
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 6: There's them, there's a lot of and he has a

1085
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 6: lot of brothers that are really good, so I had

1086
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 6: to deal with.

1087
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: That name for a long time.

1088
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: Albert again, Yeah, I thought it was OUI.

1089
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: I said, So there's a lot of in all different ways.

1090
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: Man, Alberto Quabnam who's now a free agent, tied end Alberdo,

1091
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Speaker 3: Jared la Machia.

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Speaker 5: That's a big throwback there.

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Speaker 3: How about that. Let's just start naming names. That's what

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Speaker 3: dudes can do is sit around a table and just

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Speaker 3: name all that.

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Speaker 1: polyN, I'm telling you, the first one I thought it,

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Speaker 1: when you, like we were talking on the break in

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Speaker 1: that Washington thing, was Marcus.

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Speaker 7: That wasn't names we had to do name.

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Speaker 1: Oh damn, but you can pronounce that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my brother though.

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Speaker 5: Bromates.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he does. H Bill Kilmer, Sonny Jergensen, Joe, thisman.

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Speaker 3: Are these all Washington quarterbacks? No, I don't. I think

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Speaker 3: they're Washington commanders commander's quarterbacks. But we're talking about you, Dub.

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Speaker 3: And then then he said Warren Moon at the end,

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Speaker 3: so I think that's I think he flipped it. That

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Speaker 3: was one of the texts that that's the absolutely absolutely Warren. Yes.

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Speaker 3: I mean we were walking around.

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Speaker 1: Seattle, Napoleon cough, not even a question.

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Speaker 3: Can you get Warren Moon on the show one day?

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Speaker 7: Probably?

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Speaker 3: Can you do that?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: You guys are friends like that.

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Speaker 7: There's only three of us, four of us in history

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Speaker 7: at the school. We stayed pretty close.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, Friday, I'm talking cowboys.

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Speaker 1: That's cool.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's uh well, uh, that's it for us.

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Speaker 3: Let's go Dan into I know it's fairy quick. Every

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Speaker 3: time we get into it. I feel like we can

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Speaker 3: keep you going. But that does it for us here today.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back on Friday. It is ten am right as.

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Speaker 5: Far as I know. Yes, yes, there's nothing going on Friday,

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Speaker 5: so yes week.

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Speaker 3: Ten am Central Time on Friday. Glad you've been able

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Speaker 3: to join us for Chris Beam, Isaiah stand Back, John Mitchoa,

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris. I'm Kyle Yoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you on Friday. This has been a production

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