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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Tech Stuff, a production of I Heart Radios

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart Radio and How Stuff Works and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>hellove all Things deck and I'm recording this episode the

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<v Speaker 1>week of September ninth, two thousand nineteen. That's the same

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<v Speaker 1>week that Apple held its annual event hyping new iPhones

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<v Speaker 1>and iPads and related technology. So of course I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to be contrary and to do an episode about the

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<v Speaker 1>history and evolution of Google Android. This is really going

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<v Speaker 1>to be part one, the first half of Android's existence.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Apple can grab the attention of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire tech journalism world for a couple of hours with

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<v Speaker 1>these annual events. When they hold them, they stream them live.

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<v Speaker 1>People will stop their day lee rituals and watch this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And Android continues to be the dominant operating system in

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<v Speaker 1>the smartphone world all the while. Estimates very but analysts

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<v Speaker 1>say that Android accounts for somewhere between seventy and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>five of the operating systems on all the mobile devices

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<v Speaker 1>on the market. Now that's a pretty big range five

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<v Speaker 1>and it shows how frustrating it is when you start

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<v Speaker 1>to look at things like market share. It all depends

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<v Speaker 1>upon the analysis firm that does it. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know precisely how much Android makes up on the smartphone

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<v Speaker 1>mobile operating system world, but I know that it is

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<v Speaker 1>the majority, far far greater than iOS. Now full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 1>I use a Google Android phone. My current phone as

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<v Speaker 1>of this recording is a Pixel two XL that is

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<v Speaker 1>very much ready to be replaced, but Google has not

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<v Speaker 1>yet made the Pixel for available as I'm according this.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not a Google fanboy. While I prefer Android

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<v Speaker 1>to iOS, I am also quite critical about Google. The

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<v Speaker 1>company and the history of Android has some dark stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in it, which we will get to in our next

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<v Speaker 1>episode in particular, and also this episode is in no way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form sponsored by Google. That's completely independent. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the origins of Android, it's first helpful to

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<v Speaker 1>think back before either Android or iOS had debuted, so

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<v Speaker 1>back in say the nineties. Back then, most folks, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had a phone a mobile phone, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>regular cell phone and not a smartphone, probably not even

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<v Speaker 1>a feature phone. There were some smartphones that were on

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<v Speaker 1>the market, but nearly all of them aimed at executives

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<v Speaker 1>as sort of the niche market, and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of emphasis on productivity features, you know, things like

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<v Speaker 1>calendars and email. Uh. Some cell phones had a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of Internet browsing capability, nearly all of it was

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<v Speaker 1>just text based, and there was little opportunity to develop

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<v Speaker 1>apps for phones, largely because of carrier restrictions, handset restrictions,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the quirks of the various operating systems

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<v Speaker 1>out there. Those operating systems at the time were dominated

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<v Speaker 1>by Windows Mobile symbian and chief of all the productivity smartphones, BlackBerry. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Android is largely wrapped up in the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Andy Ruben. It's a story that I think

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<v Speaker 1>Google would love to redact parts of, considering the allegations

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<v Speaker 1>against Reuben that relate to sexual misconduct. But let's focus

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<v Speaker 1>on what happened many years ago before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>all of that salaceous material in the second episode. Reuben

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<v Speaker 1>studied computer science at Utica College in New York. He

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<v Speaker 1>graduated in nine six. He worked as a software engineer

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<v Speaker 1>for a company in New York. Then he went over

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<v Speaker 1>to Switzerland for a little bit and worked as an

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<v Speaker 1>engineer there and he met an Apple in eineer named

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Caswell, who then offered him a job at Apple.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ruben accepted that job and he joined Apple as

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<v Speaker 1>a software engineer. In nine he would join a spin

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<v Speaker 1>off that kind of left out of Apple. It was

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<v Speaker 1>called General Magic. General Magic was originally called the Paradigm

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<v Speaker 1>Project when it was still part of Apple, and the

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<v Speaker 1>goal was to develop a small handheld computing device that

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<v Speaker 1>could also serve as a phone. Essentially, he was an

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<v Speaker 1>early attempt to build an Apple smartphone. The idea was

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<v Speaker 1>a good one, but a little bit ahead of its time.

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<v Speaker 1>The company worked on developing products like operating systems and

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<v Speaker 1>programming languages, all the stuff that would be necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>make such a device actually work. But General Magic was

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<v Speaker 1>unable to find much success, partly because Apple would end

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<v Speaker 1>up competing against it with the ill fated Newton device,

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<v Speaker 1>and since John's Gully, who was then the CEO of Apple,

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<v Speaker 1>was also on the board for General Magic. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people at General Magic saw this as as betrayal,

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<v Speaker 1>as Scully looking to see what General Magic was up

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<v Speaker 1>to and then racing to beat them to the punch

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<v Speaker 1>with Apple. General Magic would essentially close up shop in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand two, and all of its assets were sold

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<v Speaker 1>off by two thousand four. But Reuben wasn't around when

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<v Speaker 1>that actually happened. He didn't stick around to see General

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<v Speaker 1>Magic crumble. He had left the company way back in

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<v Speaker 1>and joined a different company, that being web tv, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was founded by a couple of other General Magic employees,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Hurlman and Phil Goldman. Microsoft would then acquire the

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<v Speaker 1>company in n for the princely sum of four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five million dollars. Now during his tenure at web tv,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruben was listed as the person who registered the dot

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<v Speaker 1>tv top level domain name, which I've find pretty amusing

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<v Speaker 1>because at the time, no one really knew who Ruben was,

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<v Speaker 1>or of course the no one knew where he was

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<v Speaker 1>going at that point, and the fact that he had

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<v Speaker 1>registered dot tv was something of a shock to the

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<v Speaker 1>government of Tuvalu, is an island nation which expected to

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<v Speaker 1>have dot tv as its country code, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>dot UK is for the United Kingdom. This caused a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a dustop, and eventually web tv was stripped

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<v Speaker 1>of ownership of the dot tv domain name and it

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<v Speaker 1>was handed over to ta Valu. The country actually really

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<v Speaker 1>depends upon revenues from other entities that are registering second

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<v Speaker 1>level domains from dot TV. That ends up being a

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<v Speaker 1>viable source of revenue for the nation. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting that they are largely dependent, not entirely.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to suggest that they get all their

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<v Speaker 1>revenue from people registering dot TV domains, but it provides

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<v Speaker 1>a significant amount to their yearly revenue, which I find interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Reubens stuck with Microsoft for another couple of years before

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<v Speaker 1>he left in to co found a new company called Danger,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did that along with Joe Britt and Matt Hershensen.

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<v Speaker 1>This company also focused on developing an operating system and

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<v Speaker 1>some hardware for a sort of proto smartphone. The focus

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<v Speaker 1>was to offload a lot of the storage needs for

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<v Speaker 1>the phone onto company servers. So, in other words, this

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<v Speaker 1>was an early example of cloud storage, at least early

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of consumers using a device that actually relied

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<v Speaker 1>on cloud storage. So instead of worrying about filling up

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<v Speaker 1>the small amount of memory space you might have on

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<v Speaker 1>such a piece of hardware, all your stuff would be

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<v Speaker 1>stored in the cloud, so you could have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more images than you would be able to store on

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<v Speaker 1>say a handheld device. The company built out a phone

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<v Speaker 1>that had a screen that would swivel and rotate up

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal a physical keyboard underneath it. So when the

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<v Speaker 1>screen was in place, like it when it was folded down, essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>then it looked like a smartphone with a touch screen interface.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you would push the screen just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on one side, it would swivel and rotate and

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<v Speaker 1>snap out, and then you would have the keyboard revealed underneath.

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<v Speaker 1>And this would end up really setting this device apart.

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<v Speaker 1>It was called the hip Top when it was under Danger,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really set the Hiptop apart from other phones

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<v Speaker 1>on the market, which were mostly in either flip phone

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<v Speaker 1>or a candy bar phone form factors, canny Bar being

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<v Speaker 1>that solid little brick of a phone. T Mobile would

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<v Speaker 1>partner with Danger and then rebrand the hip Top as

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<v Speaker 1>the phone called the Sidekick. It's an incredibly popular phone

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<v Speaker 1>of its time, and it really caught on with a

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<v Speaker 1>younger demographic. It was very popular because it was great

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<v Speaker 1>for texting, which was starting to become a dominant means

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<v Speaker 1>of communication at the time. One of the really innovative

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<v Speaker 1>things about the hip Top slash Sidekick wasn't technological at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the business model. Danger was banking on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone's services as the revenue generator for the company, rather

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<v Speaker 1>than selling the hardware for a profit. So companies like

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<v Speaker 1>Apple were known for selling devices with high profit margins,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were selling the products for much more than

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<v Speaker 1>it costs to make them. A lot of people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Apple products commanding a premium price that you might

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<v Speaker 1>look at an Apple product and you're paying two dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for the name Apple on top of whatever the device

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<v Speaker 1>is worth. Uh, that's being a bit dramatic, but Apple

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<v Speaker 1>is known for having pretty big profit margins on it's

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<v Speaker 1>on its various products. Danger was going a different route.

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<v Speaker 1>They were aiming to sell the hip top at a

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<v Speaker 1>price that was really close to what it cost to

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<v Speaker 1>make the darned things in the first place, so essentially

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<v Speaker 1>selling it for almost the same amount of money that

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<v Speaker 1>it costs to manufacture them. Danger would instead focus on

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<v Speaker 1>making money by sharing service revenues with T Mobile, so

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<v Speaker 1>this was more of a long tail approach to generating revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea being will make money off people using this

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<v Speaker 1>device rather than people buying the device. The hip Top

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<v Speaker 1>had some basic Internet features built into it, including a

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<v Speaker 1>simple browser, and that simple browser happened to have Google

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<v Speaker 1>set as the default web search engine, which endeared the

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<v Speaker 1>hip Top too. Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin,

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<v Speaker 1>both of whom were often seen using Sidekicks for quite

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<v Speaker 1>some time. The hip Top debuted in two thousand two,

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<v Speaker 1>and the following year, Reuben would leave the company to

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<v Speaker 1>co found yet another company. This one would focus on

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<v Speaker 1>building out a robust operating system for a true smartphone.

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<v Speaker 1>This company was called Android. Danger, by the way, would

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<v Speaker 1>later get acquired by Microsoft long after Reuben had already

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<v Speaker 1>left the company, and there was an incident in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand nine in which Microsoft lost all of that stored

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<v Speaker 1>data for Sidekick users. The servers that had all that

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<v Speaker 1>data failed and it was all gone. So unless you

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<v Speaker 1>were one of the users who had paid for a

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<v Speaker 1>specific app that lets you store local backups of some

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<v Speaker 1>but not all, of your Sidekick data, you lost all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. This would become sort of a message of

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<v Speaker 1>warning that cloud storage is not always full proof. So

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes people point to that and say, yeah, do you

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<v Speaker 1>remember Sidekick. Just because you store in the cloud doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's going to be safe forever, which is true.

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<v Speaker 1>But the same thing is also true if you save

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<v Speaker 1>stuff locally, stuff can happen to local drives too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that you feel like you have more control when

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<v Speaker 1>it's in your session. So I think for some people

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<v Speaker 1>it's more about the sense of surrendering control than anything else. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to Android. Rubens co founders at Android

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<v Speaker 1>where Chris White, Nick Sears, and Rich Minor. Although you

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<v Speaker 1>almost always only hear about Ruben when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the founding of Android, they had a pretty prescient view

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<v Speaker 1>of what a smart device should entail. They thought of

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<v Speaker 1>creating a device that would use location based services that

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<v Speaker 1>would tie your experience of using the device into what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in the world around you, so sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a geo tagging geolocation integration with the use of

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<v Speaker 1>the device, and that the device itself would learn more

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<v Speaker 1>about what you preferred as you used it, so the

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<v Speaker 1>more you used it, the more it would tailor itself

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<v Speaker 1>to the way you used it. It would become sympatica

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<v Speaker 1>with you. So it sounded like the goal was to

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<v Speaker 1>make a device that would get a deeper understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the person using it and then adjust its performance accordingly,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the stuff of science fiction back in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand three, no one really was convinced that you could

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<v Speaker 1>actually do such a thing. Reuben would reveal in the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand thirteen speech that originally the team was actually

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<v Speaker 1>thinking not of smartphones, but an operating system that would

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<v Speaker 1>be used for digital cameras. But they also recognized that

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<v Speaker 1>digital cameras we're starting to give way to less powerful

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<v Speaker 1>but more pervasive cell phone cameras. You know, people were

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<v Speaker 1>starting to use their cell phones to take pictures of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just was it was evident that, yes, digital

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<v Speaker 1>cameras are capable of taking much better photos than cell phones,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the cell phones of the time. But better

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<v Speaker 1>isn't always the most important element. Sometimes convenience is more important,

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<v Speaker 1>and accessibility and multi functional use. And so for that

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<v Speaker 1>reason they decided they would pivot away from creating an

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<v Speaker 1>operating system for digital cameras and instead create one for

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<v Speaker 1>cell phones. And they thus decided to create a mobile

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<v Speaker 1>phone operating system. Now, Reuben's goal was to build out

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<v Speaker 1>a mobile operating system that would be open to any

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<v Speaker 1>and all software developers. He really wanted a rich, robust

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<v Speaker 1>environment for apps of all shapes, sizes, and purposes. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to take an approach similar to personal computers. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want it to be walled off and siloed. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted it to be a playing ground where lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different people could contribute apps to that ecosystem because everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would benefit from that. So Reuben hired a small team

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<v Speaker 1>of engineers to start developing the operating system. And he

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<v Speaker 1>had made a pretty decent fortune in his work at

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<v Speaker 1>the various companies he had worked for, so he used

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<v Speaker 1>some of that to fund this fledgling company. Because they

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<v Speaker 1>literally had no product to sell for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>they had no way of generating rem new so he

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<v Speaker 1>largely funded it out of pocket, with you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>investors adding some extra money in here and there. One

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<v Speaker 1>decision he made very early on was to use an

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<v Speaker 1>open source approach to developing the operating system. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about open source, but here's a quick

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<v Speaker 1>rundown of the basic philosophy. Essentially, an open source project

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<v Speaker 1>is transparent, meaning anyone can look into it and see

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<v Speaker 1>what makes it tick. So in the case of open

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<v Speaker 1>source software, you're talking about having access to the code

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<v Speaker 1>to see how the code is constructed and how it

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<v Speaker 1>makes the app do whatever it does, or in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>the operating system. With many open source projects, often you

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<v Speaker 1>are allowed to freely download tweak and then re upload

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<v Speaker 1>code to share with a community. So you could take

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<v Speaker 1>the basic code for an operating system and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is good, but it could use X, Y and

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<v Speaker 1>Z features, and I'm going to build those out and

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<v Speaker 1>incorporate them into the code of this operating system, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll upload it as a new version. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>a way that you can actually work within the developer

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<v Speaker 1>community of an open source project. So in this way,

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<v Speaker 1>the team of developers expands from whatever in house group

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to have to what amounts to the entire

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<v Speaker 1>world becomes your developer community. Anyone can contribute to the code.

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<v Speaker 1>People can add functionality, people can patch vulnerabilities, they can

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<v Speaker 1>make offshoot programs, all that sort of stuff. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>should add not every open source project allows for all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, but the basic philosophy is that a

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<v Speaker 1>community of developers can contribute to a project's progress. When

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<v Speaker 1>it works well, you end up with really rapid innovation

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<v Speaker 1>and evolution, and you aren't dependent upon any one person

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<v Speaker 1>or groups work. Now, when it comes to Android, the

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<v Speaker 1>way this would play out is that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>an internal group of developers who would create the basic

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<v Speaker 1>version of the Android operating system, whatever version that might

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<v Speaker 1>be at that given time. They would finish this completely

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<v Speaker 1>in house, and then only after publishing the operating system

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<v Speaker 1>pushing it out to users, would they then make the

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<v Speaker 1>code available for others to download and tweak. So this

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of a hybrid approach. You would have an

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<v Speaker 1>in house team developing versions of this operating system, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you would have the release of the open source

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<v Speaker 1>code to the community afterward. So the team got to

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<v Speaker 1>work establishing the foundation for this operating system, and from

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand three to two thousand five they began to

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<v Speaker 1>design what would be a web connected operating system capable

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<v Speaker 1>of supporting apps. In two thousand five, Android would solicit

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<v Speaker 1>investors for funding with a business plan dependent on this

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<v Speaker 1>mobile OS model. The company got a lot of attention

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<v Speaker 1>in general, but it was Google that would sweep them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Google's founders were actually really keen to establish a stronger

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<v Speaker 1>presence in the mobile world. Google's revenue depends upon ads

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<v Speaker 1>and typically you know, it's largely a built on the

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<v Speaker 1>search engine service that Google offers. Google's business isn't search,

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<v Speaker 1>Google's business is advertising. So Page and Brin had the

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<v Speaker 1>goal of getting Google's search engine on more phones as

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as possible, because already people were starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>the sensation that mobile computing was going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>next big thing, that people were going to start transitioning

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<v Speaker 1>from using laptops and desktops to mobile devices. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is still years before smartphones would become a mainstream consumer product.

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<v Speaker 1>People could see the writing on the wall and they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to get ahead of this, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that the Google Search engine is the

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<v Speaker 1>default search engine on as many platforms as possible, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we generate our revenue now. On July eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>two five, Google acquired Android for an undisclosed but presumably

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<v Speaker 1>princely some The general figure that's bandied about is fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, which isn't bad at all. The acquisition was

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<v Speaker 1>kept pretty quiet at the time. In fact, I found

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<v Speaker 1>a c net piece about the acquisition that was written

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand seven, which was two years after it

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<v Speaker 1>actually had happened. Google was keeping the smartphone project it

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<v Speaker 1>was working on under wraps. Now, while Rubens team was

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<v Speaker 1>working on building out the operating system, Google itself was

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<v Speaker 1>searching for a hardware manufacturer to supply the actual physical

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<v Speaker 1>handset that would be the first to host this new

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<v Speaker 1>operating system. Google wasn't gonna build it itself. He needed

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<v Speaker 1>to find a manufacturing partner, so Google selected a company

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<v Speaker 1>out of Taiwan called HTC. And here's a quick note

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<v Speaker 1>about Taiwan. Now, if you listen to my recent episode

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<v Speaker 1>about why Everything is Made in China, you'll remember that

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned that in nineteen twelve, a government called the

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<v Speaker 1>Republic of China established itself as the new leadership structure

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<v Speaker 1>for what had previously been an imperialist nation. In ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>the People's Public of China, which was a different thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You had the Republic of China and the People's Republic

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<v Speaker 1>of China. Well, the People's Republic of China was a

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<v Speaker 1>communist organization and it still is and rested control of China,

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<v Speaker 1>and many officials with the older government the Republic of

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<v Speaker 1>China would flee to Taiwan. So Taiwan has operated in

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of nebulous designation being sort of but not

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<v Speaker 1>really part of China. Uh. The China would argue that

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<v Speaker 1>Taiwan is very much part of the country, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't agree, then China will not work with you

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<v Speaker 1>at all, uh. And that ends up being an issue

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of other countries. So they all effectively

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<v Speaker 1>agree that Taiwan is part of China. Meanwhile, Taiwan is

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<v Speaker 1>just not so fast there. We really are our own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a complicated issue. So anyway, this Taiwanese company got

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<v Speaker 1>to work building a couple of prototype handsets upon which

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<v Speaker 1>Android would be installed. And I'll have more to say

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<v Speaker 1>about those in just a minute, but first let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. Okay. So HTC had started out as

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<v Speaker 1>a computer manufacturer, that would be the Taiwanese company and question,

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<v Speaker 1>but it had been designing and producing mobile devices since

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<v Speaker 1>the late nine so it wasn't brand new to this.

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<v Speaker 1>It had built a touch screen smartphone in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and had built Windows based smartphones in two thousand two.

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<v Speaker 1>It also produced p d A s, which are not

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<v Speaker 1>public displays of affection in this case, but rather personal

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<v Speaker 1>digital assistance. It's kind of like a smartphone without the

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<v Speaker 1>phone part, but would end up being Android. That would

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<v Speaker 1>elevate HTC's status in the smartphone arena, at least for

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<v Speaker 1>a time, and it was actually something of a risk

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<v Speaker 1>for HTC. The company had been making Windows mobile based

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<v Speaker 1>phones for a while and Microsoft and Google weren't exactly

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<v Speaker 1>best buds, so it was possible that if the Android

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<v Speaker 1>phone would flop, HTC's involvement might be enough to convince

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft to take its business elsewhere, and then HTC would

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<v Speaker 1>have backed the wrong horse. Now, the company had two

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<v Speaker 1>basic prototype designs in those early days for the Android phone.

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<v Speaker 1>One was code named Sooner, which sported a small color screen,

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<v Speaker 1>had a resolution of three two pixels, had a physical

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard that was positioned under that screen, and it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looked like a more boxy version of a typical

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<v Speaker 1>BlackBerry phone. It was all one piece. You had the

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<v Speaker 1>screen on top and the physical keyboard beneath it. The

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<v Speaker 1>other prototype, called Dream was kind of like the old

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<v Speaker 1>Sidekick design. The handset screen would slide up to reveal

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<v Speaker 1>a physical keyboard underneath. Now, unlike the Sidekick, the screen

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<v Speaker 1>slid up, it did not pivot and rotate up, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically the same concept. Things were progressing at

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<v Speaker 1>Google meanwhile, and then in January two seven, Apple would

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<v Speaker 1>upset the well the the Apple cart by unveiling the

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<v Speaker 1>upcoming iPhone, and the iPhone design was aesthetically pleasing. It

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<v Speaker 1>is showed all the physical keyboard elements entirely put the

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<v Speaker 1>keyboard on the screen, though the iPhone still supported a

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<v Speaker 1>few physical buttons. I'm sure to Jobs dismay it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the first full touchscreen smartphone, but you'd be forgiven for

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<v Speaker 1>thinking it was. But based on how Steve Jobs was

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<v Speaker 1>promoting it, and it was clearly in a league of

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<v Speaker 1>its own. It was sleek, and the gesture controls like

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<v Speaker 1>swiping or pinch to zoom got a lot of attention,

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<v Speaker 1>and some companies like BlackBerry and Microsoft largely dismissed the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>at least publicly stating it's a fat it's never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take off. But several of the team members at Google

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<v Speaker 1>paid attention and really re evaluated the progress of Android.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Christa Salvo, who worked on the Android team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Android OS looked dated in comparison, like it had

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<v Speaker 1>come from the nineteen nineties. Until Apple unveiled the iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>Google had been leaning toward the Sooner handset prototype as

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<v Speaker 1>the first piece of hardware to support the Android operating system,

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<v Speaker 1>but the iPhone changed that entirely. It was obvious to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone at Google that the Sooner style phone would look

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<v Speaker 1>too stodgy and too dated next to the sexy iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the decision was made to focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>Dream prototype, which was the one that had the sliding

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<v Speaker 1>screen and the physical keyboard. And they also decided that

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<v Speaker 1>they would give the Android operating system a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an overhaul in the process, which would mean launching Android

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<v Speaker 1>a little later than they had planned, but the general

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<v Speaker 1>feeling was that this would help keep the project from

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<v Speaker 1>being a big flop after Apple's splashy debut. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone would officially launch later in two thousand seven, while

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<v Speaker 1>Google was still at work on the first Android phone.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Google didn't really officially acknowledge its phone efforts

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<v Speaker 1>until around November of two thousand seven, which was months

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<v Speaker 1>after the iPhone had launched, let alone been unveiled. The

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<v Speaker 1>company led the effort to establish an organization called the

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<v Speaker 1>Open Handset Alliance, with companies like T Mobile, Motorola, and

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<v Speaker 1>Texas Instruments. In that alliance, Google would not be ready

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<v Speaker 1>to launch until late two thousand eight, so a year

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<v Speaker 1>after the iPhone had come out. The flagship phone was

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<v Speaker 1>the HTC G One. At least that's what it was called.

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<v Speaker 1>In the United States and other parts of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>it was called the HTC Dream. And just take a

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<v Speaker 1>listen to these amazing specs. The phone had a single

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<v Speaker 1>core processor that could run at a blistering five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight mega hurts. The phone had one two megabytes

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<v Speaker 1>of RAM. The display measured a whopping three point two

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<v Speaker 1>inches on the diagonal with a resolution of three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>twenty by four pixels. And yes, I'm being a bit

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<v Speaker 1>cheeky as I celebrate these specifications because we have come

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<v Speaker 1>a long way since two thousand. The iconic Android character,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes called the bug Droid internally, was one of several

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<v Speaker 1>designs that were kind of trying to create a mascot

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<v Speaker 1>or logo for Android Arena Block, a graphic artist would

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>design the logo. She's still with Google today, though now

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<v Speaker 1>she's a product design lead for Google AI and Research.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone launched with Android version one point oh, which

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<v Speaker 1>did not have a code name, neither did its successor,

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<v Speaker 1>Version one point one, but then with the third version

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<v Speaker 1>of Android, the third released version, which was confusingly version

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<v Speaker 1>one point five, Google would assign dessert names in alphabetical order,

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<v Speaker 1>so those would become the code names for the operating

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<v Speaker 1>system versions. Version one point five would thenceforth be known

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<v Speaker 1>as Cupcake, so he skipped over A and B, and

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<v Speaker 1>that did not stand for alpha and beta since they

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<v Speaker 1>were actually real releases of the operating system. They were

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<v Speaker 1>not internal test builds, as an alpha and beta typically

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>would be. But the third version would be called Cupcake,

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<v Speaker 1>and the naming scheme would continue until the most recent

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<v Speaker 1>build of Android OS, which was released on September three,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand nineteen. That one is just called Android ten,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably because finding a dessert name that starts with the

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<v Speaker 1>letter Q was a little tricky. One thing Android had

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<v Speaker 1>over the iPhone operating system, which you know we'd later

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>call iOS, would be a few capabilities like copy and

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<v Speaker 1>paste and true multitasking. The Android operating system could simultaneously

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<v Speaker 1>run multiple applications, whereas on the iPhone you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to be satisfied with running one application at a time.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>You could switch between apps on an iPhone, but it

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 1>would mean that the apps in the background would not

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>be running. They'd essentially be frozen in stasis until activated

0:27:56.840 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>by the user. Again, Google's Android was different, and keep

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>in mind that the iPhone didn't include support for third

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>party apps when it first launched. The g One slash

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 1>Dream did. The Android market contained dozens of unique, first

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>of a kind Android applications, according to Google, So can

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you imagine that dozens? Again? I'm I'm being cheeky, because

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>of course, back in those days it was very slow going.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 1>Google included a browser which predated Chrome, and support for

0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Google services like YouTube and Google Maps was native for

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the device. The phone had support for three G cellular service,

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>something the original iPhone lacked, though, to be fair, the

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>second generation iPhone, the iPhone three G, would include support

0:28:45.520 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>for three G cellular service. That also launched in two

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>thousand eight, so it wasn't like Apple was trailing way

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 1>behind Android. It's just that they didn't include it with

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the initial iPhone release. On top of that, Google chose

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>to follow an over the air update strategy, which meant

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>that operating system updates would get sent out to all

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the handsets out there, at least in theory over cellular

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>data rather than as a download that you would save

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>to a PC and then you would transfer over to

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the phone via a cable. Apple did it that way

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. In fact, they would not support

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>over the air updates until iOS version five. Now, the

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>advantages weren't necessarily evident to the mainstream public, but there

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>were a lot of geeks, including me, that felt these

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>features set Android ahead of the competition. Apple would catch up,

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>of course, implementing features in future versions of iOS, but

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>always seeming like Apple was kind of lagging behind on

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:47.640
<v Speaker 1>certain features, perhaps purposefully to make sure that the implementation

0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't affect the experience that Steve Jobs wanted to create

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>with the handset. Google's approach was more you know, lucy

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>goosey with that sort of thing. That being said, Apple

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>was light years head when it came to graphic design

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and aesthetics. The iPhone's design philosophy extended all the way

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to the icons that you would see on the display.

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Google's user interface looked like it had been built by

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and four engineers. It worked, but it wasn't, you know, sexy,

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>and it wasn't quite as intuitive and interface as what

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Apple had created. There was a bit of a learning

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>curve to Android, which was somewhat smoothed out when handset

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 1>manufacturers began to create what amounted to special skins for

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:34.239
<v Speaker 1>Android to make them more user friendly. They could do

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that because, again, the operating system was open source, so

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>handset manufacturers could take that basic version of Android and

0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>then tweak it a little bit so it might run

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit better on that particular hardware. The HTCG one

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>was my first smartphone. I jumped on the Android bandwagon

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.640
<v Speaker 1>about as early as I could. I had held off

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 1>getting a smartphone for many reasons. I didn't care for

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Apple's closed garden approach, and besides, I already used a

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of Google's services like Gmail and Google Docs, so

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I figured going with Android would make the most sense.

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>These days, I look at all the Google stuff and

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, man, that's a company that needs to get

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>broken up. But at the time, I was just excited

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to have a phone that would, at least in theory,

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>work seamlessly with all the services I was already using.

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>More importantly, Google would take a fundamentally different approach than Apple.

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Over at Apple, the smartphone operating system was a jealously

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>guarded property. Only Apple phones could sport iOS if you

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>wanted to use that operating system, you had to buy

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a phone from Apple. No one else would be allowed

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>to create a phone running that operating system. In this way,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Apple was following the same philosophy it employed with its

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>computer systems, apart from that one shaky period when Steve

0:31:54.800 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Jobs wasn't at Apple and the company began to allow macclones. Google, however,

0:32:00.320 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>was going the opposite direction. The open source Android was

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>available for at least in theory, any manufacturer to use,

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>so handset manufacturers like Motorola and Samsung began to develop

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>their own handsets that would run the operating system. Moreover,

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't tied to specific carriers, although it took a

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>while to get support for all the different carriers. So

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>when the iPhone launched in the United States, Apple had

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>made an exclusivity deal with A T and T. That

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 1>story could be its own podcast episode, the whole story

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 1>behind a T and T and Apple exclusivity in the

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>early days of the iPhone. But the point is that

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:38.800
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of years in the United States, iPhone

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>users had no option when it came to service providers.

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>It was a T and T or it was nothing.

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Android would have no such restrictions, but this would introduce

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>other problems. I'll explain more in a second, but first

0:32:53.720 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>let's take another quick break. Android Cupcake would provide support

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>for on screen keyboards, both from Google and from third parties,

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So this is a case where Google had to catch

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>up to Apple, which had skipped the physical keyboard step entirely.

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Cupcake also added other features, such as the ability to

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>record video using the handsets camera. Android Donut would add

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>even more features, including support for c d M A networks,

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.960
<v Speaker 1>which were used by companies like Verizon and Sprint in

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the United States. So c d M A is one

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>type of cellular phone technology and then G s M

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>was the other one. Uh, you can think of him

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>as two branches of cellular technologies. Most of the world

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>was using g s M, but in the US you

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>also had a couple of networks using c d M A,

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and once Donut added that support in and meant that

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>companies like Verizon and Sprint could actually offer Android phones.

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>So at that point, Android could theoretically exist on any

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>compatible hardware on any cellular provider, and that leads into

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the problem I was mentioning earlier. The main problem was fragmentation,

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>meaning there were several different active versions of Android out

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>on the market at the same time. Some hands that

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>manufacturers would augment Android with software of their own, so

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that you'd have a slightly different flavor of Android on

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Samsung than you might find on Motorola, for example, And

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 1>that's perfectly legit, because, as I mentioned earlier, Android is

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>an open source project. Google set up some rules. However,

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>anyone who wanted to tweak Android would have to submit

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.479
<v Speaker 1>it to the Android Compatibility Program that would make sure

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that the build wasn't so different that it would no

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>longer work with key components of the Android ecosystem like

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the play Store or the Google Mobile Services. So while

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a company like Samsung could release its own version of Android,

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>it would first have to submit that code to Google

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that could still play nice in the

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Google sphere overall, and carriers didn't necessarily push out Android

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>updates to users all at the same time. So you

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>might have a handset that's technically capable of running the

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>latest version of Android, but the carrier you are on

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 1>hasn't distributed the OS update, so you're stuck in an

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>older version. Then carriers could also include bloatwear that would

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>change the nature of Android. This whole fragmentation was a

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>point of frustration not just for users but also developers,

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>who couldn't be certain that their work would be usable

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.320
<v Speaker 1>by the majority of the Android install base. Developers typically

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>want to take advantage of the best hardware and operating

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>system features that they can, but when there's a lot

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of fragmentation in an operating system, that becomes difficult to do.

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 1>This was one of those things that Steve Jobs thought

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>would spell the end of Android, and while it was

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 1>a point of pain and frustration, it didn't kill the

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>operating system. By two thousand nine, Apple was sticking with

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a T and T in the U S and Google

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.280
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get more carriers to offer Android phones

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>on their networks. One big target was Verizon, and Verizon

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>was searching for a good alternative to the iPhone because

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>it still didn't have access to it, so it banked

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on an interesting alliance. The parties included Verizon, HTC, Motorola, Google,

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and a little company called Lucasfilm. Alright, so the Lucasfilm

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>thing is a little bit misleading. The big contribution that

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Lucasfilm would make would be to license the name Droid,

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>which it had trademarked from the Star Wars film franchise,

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and it licensed it to Verizon. Thus, HTC and Motorola

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>would manufacture handsets running the Android operating system for Verizon,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>which then marketed those phones as the brand Droid. In addition,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>the handsets were the first to feature Android version two

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>point oh otherwise known as a Claire now like the

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>old HTCG one the Motorola Droid. The original Motorola Droid

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>had a slide out physical keyboard, and if you preferred,

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>you could use the on screen keyboard, so you had

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:07.840
<v Speaker 1>some options. The phone featured voice recognition technologies like voice Search,

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:11.479
<v Speaker 1>so you could actually engage the voice search feature, say

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>something into the phone and it would search for that

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:17.240
<v Speaker 1>term for you. The Droid also contributed to the death

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.360
<v Speaker 1>of another company, and that would be Palm, which was

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>famous for its p d A s. Back in the

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>good old nineties. Palm had created a smartphone running on

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>web os called the Palm pre and had another version

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>called the Palm Pre Plus that was supposed to run

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>on Verizon's network, but Verizon would largely neglect the Palm

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>pre Plus, instead focusing its marketing power on the droid,

0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and that helped spell the end for Palm, which would

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>end up getting acquired and then kind of sort of

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>fizzled away and died. Now you could argue that Verizon

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>got a little bit of come upance for all that,

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>because in Verizon launched a phone from Microsoft called the

0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Kin K I n never remember when I talked about Danger,

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>the company that Andy Rubin co founded before he moved

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 1>on to Android. Well, Microsoft had acquired Danger, and then

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 1>several people from that team had worked on the Ken smartphone.

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>It was meant to be a phone that sort of

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>straddled the gap between cell phone and smartphones, sort of

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>a feature phone with lots of social media type applications

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.280
<v Speaker 1>in mind. But the phone was seen as a lackluster effort,

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and Verizon would end up discontinuing the sales of the

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Kin about a month and a half after launching it,

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was a bust. Now the Droid wasn't a bust.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>It would become the most popular Android phone in the

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>United States at that time and would help drive Android's success,

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>which reached a level in which the OS became the

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>dominant operating system in the smartphone market. Google began to

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>outpace Apple starting in two thousand eleven, with Android available

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.720
<v Speaker 1>on more phones than Apple's iOS, and it would increase

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>year over year until it reaches the crazy levels it's

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at today now. However, it's very important to note that

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>comparing iOS market share to Android market share is a

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 1>little bit like comparing apples to oranges. So many Apple puns. Well,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean by that is that Apple has consistently

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>taken aim at the high end market for its phones.

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:23.920
<v Speaker 1>The premium cost for Apple phones drives profits. Google's Android

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 1>is available across a wide range of smartphones and price points.

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Google is not consume concerned about selling expensive phones because

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Google doesn't sell very many phones at all. It mostly

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>just makes the operating system available. It's more concerned with

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>getting the operating system out there as much as it

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 1>possibly can. And remember, most of those phones are not

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 1>coming from Google. The company doesn't really care about how

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>expensive any of those handsets are, so Google continues to

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>make money off the services it provides. So, just like

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 1>in the world of desktops and laptops, the real product

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Google selling isn't phones or even operating systems. It's the

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>data of users. People like me and you, especially people

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.800
<v Speaker 1>who use Android phones. People like me. We're generating so

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>much data that can then be profited from in various ways.

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 1>And yes, that is not something I am particularly happy about.

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we trade uh convenience, you know, well, we'll get

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:27.560
<v Speaker 1>convenience and we'll trade off some security and privacy and

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and then later on we wonder if

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:31.919
<v Speaker 1>we made the right choice and then think we've gone

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>too far. But now we're going down my psyche. Let's

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>get back to Android. Backtracking a little bit. Google unveiled

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a flagship phone on January. It was the Nexus one phone,

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>which was manufactured by HTC, just like the g One

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.480
<v Speaker 1>had been, and it sported the Google logo on the

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>phone itself. The Nexus was closer and designed to the

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>iPhone compared with other Android phones on the market, including

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the Droid. It had a one giga Hurts processor, It

0:40:57.600 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>had an m o led display with a hundred by

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>four a d resolution, had five twelve megabytes of storage,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh five megapixel camera. This is back in the

0:41:07.200 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 1>days when smartphone cameras still were just okay. This phone

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<v Speaker 1>also would feature a pure Android build when no manufacturer

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<v Speaker 1>or carrier add ons, bloatware or anything like that. It

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to be as pure a version of Android

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<v Speaker 1>as you could possibly find, so obviously I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get one of these phones, and I did. Now that's

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<v Speaker 1>not to say that the launch of the Nexus one

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<v Speaker 1>was without its problems. For one thing, Google and HTC

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<v Speaker 1>apparently never worked out which party would actually be responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for providing customer support, so when something went wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>a person's Nexus one, there wasn't really anyone to turn

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<v Speaker 1>to for help. Now Google would eventually address this and

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<v Speaker 1>create a customer support department, but the lack of support

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<v Speaker 1>on launch was a bit of a misstep, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>putting it lightly. It was actually a really big problem. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than cover all the minnutia of Android over the

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<v Speaker 1>next few years, I figured it'd be good to skip

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<v Speaker 1>ahead a little bit. So Android's user interface was still

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a dated and clunky experience. To address that,

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<v Speaker 1>Google would hire Matthias Duarte. Duarte had previously worked for

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<v Speaker 1>Ruben's old company Danger, then he went to work for

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<v Speaker 1>Palm in the development of web os. That was largely

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<v Speaker 1>part of his work, and he would end up working

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<v Speaker 1>with a team to overhaul the look and feel of

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<v Speaker 1>androids user interface. He would become essentially the Director of

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<v Speaker 1>User Experience at Google, though his title would get juggled

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<v Speaker 1>around in various ways in different interviews. Duarte came in

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<v Speaker 1>just as Google was preparing to push out the Gingerbread

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<v Speaker 1>update to Android that was version two point three. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>According to an interview he gave to Engadget at CS,

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<v Speaker 1>he really didn't have time to have a big impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the operating system for Gingerbread. He did get involved

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<v Speaker 1>in a conversation around the idea of parrying the OS

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<v Speaker 1>with a specific phone, which would end up being the

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<v Speaker 1>Nexus S. That was a phone that was produced by Samsung,

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<v Speaker 1>but Duarte would have more of an influence on Honeycomb

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<v Speaker 1>or Android version three. This was a peculiar version of Android.

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<v Speaker 1>It was meant specifically for tablets, not for smartphones, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was never released for smartphones. It was only released

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<v Speaker 1>for Android based tablets. Unfortunately, this would also be a

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<v Speaker 1>version of Android that essentially fizzled out. It sported a

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<v Speaker 1>so called holographic user interface and was the Android OS

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<v Speaker 1>featured on the Motorola Zoom spelled x O O. M

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<v Speaker 1>Apple had once again set the conversation by introducing the

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<v Speaker 1>iPad tablet and succeeding where no one else had in

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<v Speaker 1>the consumer space. The Zoom and Honeycomb were supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be Google's answer to that, but it wasn't a very

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<v Speaker 1>good answer or Early reviews criticized the lack of apps

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<v Speaker 1>optimized for Honeycomb, and this was made worse because Google

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<v Speaker 1>had not released the code for Honeycomb the way it

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<v Speaker 1>had for previous versions of the Android operating system, and

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, Android Tablets and Honeycomb were seen

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<v Speaker 1>as a misfire. Now that being said, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>design elements from Honeycomb were also in the next Android

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<v Speaker 1>operating system for smartphones. That one was called ice Cream

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<v Speaker 1>Sandwich or Android four point oh. Where hunting Comb and

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<v Speaker 1>the tablets fell short, ice Cream Sandwich seemed to succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>Critics overall liked the updated appearance of the UI. Duard

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<v Speaker 1>was heavily involved in the design and implementation of Android

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<v Speaker 1>four point oh, and his work was receiving praise from

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<v Speaker 1>critics and users. While Android had already proven itself to

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<v Speaker 1>be a popular platform for smartphones, it was ice Cream

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<v Speaker 1>Sandwich that helped establish a cohesive feel for the operating system.

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<v Speaker 1>And the user interface. You know, you can look at

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<v Speaker 1>the iPhone U I and you could say I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the esthetic, I get how it all connects together.

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<v Speaker 1>I get what the overall vision is. The same was

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<v Speaker 1>not true for early Android phones, so this marked a

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<v Speaker 1>change where you could actually say, oh, I see where

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<v Speaker 1>the aesthetic is. I see where the design components are

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<v Speaker 1>with Android. Now, in our next episode, we will continue

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<v Speaker 1>the story of Android's evolution leading up to present day.

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:31.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about more about rubens uh controversies, which are

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:36.720
<v Speaker 1>truly terrible allegations that are are against him, really awful stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm kind of glad I saved that for the

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<v Speaker 1>next episode so I don't have to go into it

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<v Speaker 1>right now, But it does mean that Friday's recording is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a doozy anyway. We're gonna conclude Android's

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<v Speaker 1>evolution in the next episode, at least so far. Obviously,

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the operating system is still very much alive and well today.

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