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Speaker 2: I've seen it a couple of times. If the opponent

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Speaker 1: So since you can't see it, so the guy for

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Speaker 1: the Clippers game, and he gives the opposing team's crowd

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Speaker 1: some free chicken. He misses the free throws on purpose,

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Speaker 1: I guess. So anyway, this is what it sounded like.

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Speaker 1: Beasts of free chicken on the board if he misses

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Speaker 1: the second free throw, man free scheeper on the board.

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Speaker 1: So I's why the fans are getting a little real

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Speaker 1: flothy the crowds. You want chicken, here's your chu. He's

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Speaker 1: pre perfect he did. He came off pret chicken. That

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Speaker 2: They won.

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Speaker 1: That was so awesome. I like the player did it.

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Speaker 1: Way the announcers handled it is that the Clippers home announcers,

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Speaker 3: I love it when they make non sports moments the highlights.

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Speaker 3: It's like when that that fan broke onto the field

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Speaker 1: Guy is drunk.

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Speaker 2: There he goes, Kevin Harlan, the legendary call. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: about the sanctity of the game. Jack intentionally missing a

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised there hasn't been somebody. I mean, because there's

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Speaker 1: a betting line on every game, and missing a shot

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Speaker 1: on purpose, I don't know if that affected anything. Because

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Speaker 2: I tell you what the Clippers fan base is going

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Speaker 2: to be, you know, campaigning to get this guy traded

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Speaker 1: So I just gone Marjanovitch. I just looked up at

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Speaker 1: the TV and they're still doing a little OJ coverage

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Speaker 1: several days after he died. I wasn't here on Friday

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Speaker 1: because I was sick, so I didn't get to talk

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Speaker 1: about this much. The one question I had is we'll

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Speaker 1: never know whether he knew he killed those people or not.

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Speaker 1: I've always wondered it was he crazy or just a

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Speaker 1: really skilled wire. Michael, where are you on that? I

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Speaker 2: I think he snapped.

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Speaker 4: I think he did it, and I think he had

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Speaker 1: At what point did he snap If he ran and

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Speaker 2: I wish we had like a clinical psychologist to talk

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Speaker 1: I got to jump in the last time I said that,

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Speaker 1: we got a text from somebody who said, it's a

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Speaker 1: psychotic break. A psychic break is when your local psychic

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Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite texts of all time.

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Speaker 2: You're quite right, thank you for the correction.

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Speaker 1: A psychotic break.

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Speaker 1: It's like we've said many times, trying.

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Speaker 2: To put a a logical explanation to insanity is a

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Speaker 1: Hanson, where are you in this? Did he know he

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he knew until his mind broke. That's mine

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Speaker 3: Could it be kind of like an Aaron Rodgers situation

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Speaker 3: Well, that was just the things that was going around.

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Speaker 1: Oh, here's Hanson's theory, our executive producer that OJ that

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Speaker 2: Boy, And if you are completely unable to accept something

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the human mind sometimes ignores trauma is just a

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Speaker 1: You can't survive dealing with this, so we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: push it out of your head. Ah. The town I

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what the taking a psychic break,

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Speaker 2: It's a funny joke is that the one you can

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Speaker 1: Katie, when you were doing morning radio or whatever, did

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Speaker 3: Someone very very close to me lost someone and went

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Speaker 1: Because it was just bait.

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Speaker 5: there's just a lot of your your mom. Your mom

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Speaker 1: Just normal. Yeah, stop, And it's just horrible to play

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, I am not cool with that profession. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, Ah, so back to OJ hacking

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Speaker 2: people up, which is more pleasant? Fair? Just a couple

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Speaker 2: twenty five, Michael, I think it's self explanatory.

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Speaker 4: The executor of OJ Simpson's estate is vowing to fight

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure they're going to fight it, but I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they can, right, I don't know enough

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Speaker 1: What did I have on Ojay? One more thing? Oh

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Speaker 1: I didn't look into what he was arrested for. Do

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Speaker 1: That's all I see that can happen in any troubled neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Or Persian warriors. So he was soft on Iran as well.

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Speaker 2: Exactly interesting, never ending, Speaking of horrific politics, this is

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Speaker 6: But it was so racial charged because of what had

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Speaker 6: Black Americans feel about policing. It's not like OJ Simpson

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Speaker 6: was the leader of the civil rights movement of his error.

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Speaker 6: You know, he wasn't a social justice leader, but he

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Speaker 6: have been persecuted during slavery. There was just so many layers.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was with you, Alfa told that last sentence, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: The people of black people really related to him because

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Speaker 2: he killed white people because of slavery. He represented something

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Speaker 2: because he killed whitey whoa. Yeah, that actually aired on CNN.

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Speaker 1: He close to the opposite. Yeah, oh, boy man. Nobody

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Speaker 1: called her on it. I watched it. No, that's outrageous.

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Speaker 1: I mean the idea that a black, mostly black jury said,

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Speaker 1: la fe you and acquitted him. I perfectly get, and

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Speaker 1: I might have done the same thing. But the glad

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Speaker 1: he killed white people because of slavery. Nah, eh nah,

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Speaker 1: I ain't sick. That's a DT.

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Speaker 1: She's awful. I had completely forgotten because Joe and I

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Speaker 1: the black people in the crowd until I watched that

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Speaker 1: on Friday. That was uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, no, kidding, sh Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's it.