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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about Nicki Glazer's jokes on her recent

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Speaker 1: appearance on Saturday Night Live. A freak accident that killed

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Speaker 1: a father and son, yet another failure in the justice system,

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Speaker 1: this time in a high school rapist is walking free,

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Speaker 1: How fame ripped apart, America's most inbred family, and a

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Speaker 1: procedure that could change your eye color. What could possibly

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Speaker 1: be controversial about that? All that and more on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: What's up with this SNL? They're just like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like like clickbait kind of I guess

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess let me get into it first and

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Speaker 2: I'll say my opinion about it. So Nicki Glazer hosted

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Speaker 2: SNL this weekend, and she delivered her monologue as every

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Speaker 2: single SNL host does, and unlike the celebrities, most of

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Speaker 2: the time, stand ups will do their own jokes, not

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Speaker 2: the ones that SNL writers have written. So she did

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Speaker 2: a bunch of controversial jokes at the beginning of it,

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Speaker 2: which is not atypical for her. She's always doing controversial stuff.

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Speaker 2: But I guess what people are really upset about is

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Speaker 2: part of it was she was talking about if she

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Speaker 2: were to take a shower with her four year old nephew,

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Speaker 2: what if she ended up becoming attracted to him? Because

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Speaker 2: how did pedophiles end up becoming pedophiles? Like, what's the

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Speaker 2: point they become pedophiles?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: So I guess everybody's really upset about that because joking

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Speaker 2: about pedophilia to most people is not okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess you could go

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Speaker 1: both ways with this. It's like number one, comedians always

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Speaker 1: say things that are I mean good one anyway, there's

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Speaker 1: no point if you're if you can't like let it

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Speaker 1: all out and I mean right that that's that. I

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Speaker 1: like that part of comedy when comedians aren't being censored

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Speaker 1: for what they're saying.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I just think about whenever

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Speaker 1: it almost reminds me of we were talking about this

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Speaker 1: in our YouTube life the what's her name Kristen Bell, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what's her husband's.

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Speaker 3: Name, dak Shepherd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 1: They did a post a couple of weeks ago making

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Speaker 1: light of the fact that she gets on her husband's

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Speaker 1: nerves so much that she wouldn't be surprised if he

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Speaker 1: killed her one day or something like that. It was

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Speaker 1: like some reference to killing your wife, right, And it

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Speaker 1: was Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: were just like, dude, you aren't. Aren't. Isn't she like

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Speaker 1: Elsa from from Frozen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So like people are following her because because she's

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Speaker 1: like a Disney character. And then there's people who are

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Speaker 1: in domestic abuse situations and it's not funny to them,

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Speaker 1: and and people don't want to they don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear that as a joke, that like their reality is

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Speaker 1: a joke. And I was thinking about the same thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a parent right now, at least one,

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Speaker 1: but we know there's multiple parents right now that just

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Speaker 1: found out that their kids got molested by an adult.

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Speaker 1: And there might be a point that they might want

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Speaker 1: to sit down and just watch TV and watch something

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Speaker 1: like Saturday Night Live so they could laugh because they're

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Speaker 1: going through the most terrible thing a parent could go

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Speaker 1: through besides their kid getting killed, right, And and like

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Speaker 1: to hear that which not just not just a parent

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Speaker 1: that audience and lots of people watching that are victims

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Speaker 1: of that as well. So it's just kind of like

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Speaker 1: an upsetting thing like that that people don't want to

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Speaker 1: really think about during a portion when they're supposed to

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Speaker 1: be laughing. Right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I really like her stand up a lot. I do

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Speaker 2: think she missed the mark with this one. I honestly

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Speaker 2: can't believe NBC allowed this, especially with how shitty this

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Speaker 2: They just don't do anything funny anymore.

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Speaker 1: They don't well that's the thing, Like they don't care,

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Speaker 1: and they're not they haven't been funny for years, right,

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Speaker 1: but they don't care because ultimately every single person's talking

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of sad, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I always reference this. Colin jo just wrote

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Speaker 2: a book and he has an entire chapter called Notes

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Speaker 2: from Advertisers or something, and it's like something the advertisers said, like,

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Speaker 2: you absolutely can't make a joke about this during the show,

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Speaker 2: And when you like see the censorship from the advertisers,

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Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, this is like so stupid and ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: and it just it just makes me think of that

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Speaker 2: because they certainly when they have had stand ups on

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Speaker 2: a little bit more, especially when they have Shane Gillett,

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Speaker 2: you know, more controversial people on. But I just really,

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Speaker 2: I really just can't even believe they let her say this. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: I feel like they knew it was gonna get backlash.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, it's getting them views. They haven't

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Speaker 2: been getting many views in years, so I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's the weirdest part of this story. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: jokes whatever. The weirdest part of this story is is

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Speaker 1: her talking about taking a shower with her nephew, Like

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Speaker 1: when is that ever? That's just kind of weird. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say, take a shower in

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Speaker 1: front of your kids, Like my kids have seen me naked,

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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't get undressed in front of my sister's kid.

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Speaker 1: That's weird.

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Speaker 2: No, it's it is inappropriate, and it's like, I think

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Speaker 2: she just didn't deliver. I doubt she does that in

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Speaker 2: she really does do a good job of having that

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Speaker 2: good mix of controversial but not pushing it too far.

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Speaker 2: I think this one definitely pushed it too far. She's

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Speaker 2: supposed to host the Golden Globes in January. I wonder

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Speaker 2: if that's gonna be affected because of this. Personally, it's

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Speaker 2: like I can see Kristen Bell made that joke. I

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Speaker 2: could see Nicki Glazer made this joke. I don't think

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Speaker 2: they should be canceled. I just think they took it

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Speaker 2: too far, right, But you know people are they're gonna

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Speaker 2: want death to the death to them all over a

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Speaker 2: bad joke, right, So I think it's bullshit of CBS.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a fan of I'm not a fan

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Speaker 1: of canceling people in general. I just it's just like

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Speaker 1: something that we need to make a hard line and

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Speaker 1: say that this is just never gonna be okay, you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, totally.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it was a poor choice

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Speaker 2: was thinking nobody watches this show, nobody will hear it seriously.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's definitely not happening.

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Speaker 2: I know I'm making a joke because their ratings are

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was a smart choice, but I'm

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Speaker 2: number one, like pedophiles should be set on fire.

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Speaker 3: I hate pedophiles.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm not gonna stop listening to her stand up

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Speaker 2: because of this. I just think she didn't execute it

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Speaker 1: I wonder do they have to give them like their

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Speaker 1: of time? Oh totally they can't, don't you know, Like

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Speaker 1: Snead O'Connor and a couple other people have gone rogue

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, because I think that information would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe they just I don't know the

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Speaker 1: they don't care. Like, who the hell knows what people

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Speaker 2: I just think people, I think they're all comedians that

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Speaker 2: So I think when you're a comedian, you're really just

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Speaker 2: I think people are also making it a way bigger

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Speaker 2: I think I don't think she should issue an apology

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Speaker 3: Land that willing in yeah really really in not appropriate,

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Speaker 2: A man in his teenage some were on vacation in

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you're on vacation and you die, unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: They were murder hornets.

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Speaker 1: They didn't know which ones they were well, but they

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what it is like, it could happen with

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Speaker 1: any wasp if you're allergic to it, but once you

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Speaker 1: So it happened. A little kid at at the girls

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand this at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this person's seventeen years old raping these girls

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Speaker 1: How I just don't I keep trying to think from

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously because you want to hope that he doesn't

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Speaker 2: So how are we not supposed to think there was

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Speaker 1: Again, who is a local sports coach?

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, of course, it's very it's very disturbing to

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Speaker 2: you just weren't good at it, Yeah, exactly, So why

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Speaker 3: That's why it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: That's what the second chance is, to make them get

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Speaker 2: Seriously, this episode is brought to you by the Grosser

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Speaker 2: Room guys.

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Speaker 1: So, as we said, this week's high profile that dissection

443
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Speaker 1: is on Parker Schultz, and that is the two year

444
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Speaker 1: old that died in a hot car at the hands

445
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Speaker 1: of her loser dad. So make sure I don't hold

446
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Speaker 1: back what I think about this guy. We had a

447
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Speaker 1: really interesting case in the grosser room this week of

448
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Speaker 1: a guy who almost amputated it is penis, and it

449
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: is the most bizarre thing that you've ever heard. It's

450
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Speaker 1: so weird, and it's even more weird that he said

451
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Speaker 1: that he was still having sex with his penis looking

452
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Speaker 1: like that. I just can't, I really just can't.

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Speaker 3: What else.

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Speaker 1: Oh, So, our next story that we're going to be

455
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Speaker 1: talking about is inbreeding. So we did a whole high

456
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Speaker 1: profile dissection on inbreeding a couple of years ago. Now

457
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Speaker 1: didn't we do it for like Valentine. It's like a

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day special a couple of years ago, and we

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Speaker 1: do talk about this case of this family that we're

460
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Speaker 1: going to talk about in the next story, but we

461
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Speaker 1: also talk about lots of different cases of inbreeding and

462
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Speaker 1: why it is terrible, and there's a lot of things

463
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Speaker 1: to really learn in there about how your cousins are

464
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Speaker 1: related to you. I remember when we were writing that up,

465
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Speaker 1: thinking that, you know, I have my first cousins, so

466
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Speaker 1: then I just thought that my their kids were my

467
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Speaker 1: second cousins. But it's not really, It's like something twice removed,

468
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Speaker 1: like it's one of those weird things. So just looking

469
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Speaker 1: at the chart to see like who you shouldn't breed with,

470
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't breed with anybody that populates on your family troops.

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Speaker 2: This is ridiculous, all right, guys, If you want to

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Speaker 2: read that, head over to the grossroom dot com now

474
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Speaker 2: to sign up. Okay, America's quote most inbred family, the Whittakers,

475
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Speaker 2: are facing difficulties after viral videos of their family resulted

476
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Speaker 2: and multiple family members being removed by state officials.

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Speaker 1: This is actually kind of sad. It's really sad because

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Speaker 1: they get I guess who did the initial interview that

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Speaker 1: went viral on YouTube. It was just some like a

480
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Speaker 1: local interview thing or what was it. I don't know

481
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Speaker 1: that guy's backstory, but he became aware of the family

482
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Speaker 1: and did a small YouTube documentary about them, and I

483
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Speaker 1: think that's the first time the public really learned about them.

484
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Speaker 1: And I get that because I like to I like

485
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Speaker 1: to showcase different things. So if someone, if I came

486
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Speaker 1: across someone that would be willing to share their story,

487
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Speaker 1: I would want to share it too for interest. But

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, this started this downfall of events for people,

489
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Speaker 1: especially when you're super famous, but you're not becoming rich

490
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Speaker 1: and famous and you don't have all the protections that

491
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Speaker 1: celebrities have, like security and just being able to be

492
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Speaker 1: isolated from the public and not having to go to

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Speaker 1: the store to get your food and go to the

494
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Speaker 1: gas station yourself and all. Because I imagine that they

495
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Speaker 1: get quite harassed in public because everyone knows who they

496
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Speaker 1: are now and it's led to this well.

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Speaker 2: And it's their abnormalities are quite obvious physically, so I

498
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Speaker 2: feel like, you know, you might just be taken off

499
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Speaker 2: guard by what they look like and then piece it together, right,

500
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Speaker 2: So there's definitely no privacy there. I understand why the

501
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: state officials went to the home. I mean, when you

502
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Speaker 2: look at the videos of the home, there's bugs crawling everywhere,

503
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Speaker 2: there is rotten food laying out, like the house is

504
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Speaker 2: a mess. Right, it's probably not in great living conditions,

505
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Speaker 2: but these people are such a close knit family and

506
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Speaker 2: it's all they know and it makes me really I mean,

507
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Speaker 2: the interview is just saying with the others that weren't

508
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Speaker 2: taken by the state, just saying I miss them. They

509
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Speaker 2: haven't talked to them since September, and they don't know.

510
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Speaker 3: Where they are.

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Speaker 2: It's just really sad to think about separating a family

512
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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and clearly they're not. They're not all

514
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Speaker 1: there as far as mentally to be, like, maybe they

515
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: do need to be monitored by someone else if they're

516
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Speaker 1: not intellectually able to take care of themselves and others

517
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Speaker 1: and their living in that situation. I mean, there's plenty

518
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Speaker 1: of people that have a pad that live in a

519
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Speaker 1: hoarded situation with bugs and everything like that. But if

520
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: you're if you're talking about their their intellectual capabilities, they

521
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: just might not be capable of it. And it just

522
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: sucks because I feel like they were just kind of

523
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: there and like live in their life, find and content

524
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: and then this guy comes in and does a documentary

525
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Speaker 1: on them. They become super famous and they didn't get

526
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Speaker 1: anything out of it, and I mean they're they're probably

527
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Speaker 1: super poor too. Well Yeah, so I mean they're not.

528
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Speaker 1: It doesn't look like they're they're living.

529
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Speaker 3: They didn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they didn't make a dollar off of their

531
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Speaker 1: Internet fame.

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Speaker 2: No, And their story is most interesting because they're inbreeding

533
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Speaker 2: goes back to over a century and it's linked to

534
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Speaker 2: a single marriage between two sets of cousins descended from

535
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Speaker 2: identical twin brothers, and then that's when the gene pool

536
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Speaker 2: started collapsing, and then it just kept going for decades until.

537
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's actually even, that's that's even. That

538
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: is a really crazy thing actually, because when you don't

539
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Speaker 1: you're not supposed to breed with anyone's second cousin or closer,

540
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Speaker 1: because you don't want to be with anyone that has

541
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Speaker 1: more than really three percent of a shared DNA with you,

542
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: because it just increases the risk because when you, you know,

543
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Speaker 1: when you're created, you have half of your DNA from

544
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: your mom and half of your DNA from your dad.

545
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Speaker 1: So in the case with them, if they're if they're

546
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Speaker 1: if the two parents that started were identical twins, they

547
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Speaker 1: both have the same DNA, and then they both had kids,

548
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Speaker 1: so those kids each have fifty percent of the same DNA,

549
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Speaker 1: and then like, that's what's that's what's really scary.

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Speaker 2: But then it seems like it it didn't stop there,

551
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Speaker 2: like it kept like every generation some form of incests continuing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't know what's happening there.

553
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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I see why the video went viral

554
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: because it's super interesting because people say that and we

555
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of hit on some of those taboos in the

556
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: grosser room because a lot of times like this particular

557
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: family isn't the exact representation of that, but we talk

558
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Speaker 1: about it from a historical standpoint because a lot of royals.

559
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of royals, did it isn't Queene.

560
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Speaker 2: Elizabeth and Prince Philip. I believe we're third cousins.

561
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so it's like that that was a common thing,

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Speaker 1: especially back in the day. And I guess a lot

563
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Speaker 1: of people look at someone that might be really you know,

564
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Speaker 1: have some kind of weird facial feature or something, and say, oh,

565
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: they look like they're inbred, and it's like, that's not

566
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Speaker 1: really what the problem is. The problem is more for

567
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Speaker 1: genetic things that are passed, because when you share the

568
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Speaker 1: same genes, that's really the biggest concern is that you're

569
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Speaker 1: you're spreading it among your family so much easier. Like

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Speaker 1: for example, I know a lot of times women now

571
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're having a baby, you get tested

572
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Speaker 1: and they want to see if you're a carrier of

573
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Speaker 1: a cystic fibrosis gene. Well, if you have two people

574
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Speaker 1: that are carriers, then there's such a high probability that

575
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Speaker 1: you're going to have a baby that that has that,

576
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Speaker 1: And just the closer in DNA you are, the higher

577
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Speaker 1: chance that you're both going to have these recessive genes

578
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Speaker 1: that could come out in a child, and some of

579
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Speaker 1: them could be really deadly diseases. So it is it

580
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Speaker 1: is definitely a concern, and it's just like it's just

581
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Speaker 1: kind of a sad situation for these people because there

582
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Speaker 1: are like, come on, they're they're not living. I mean,

583
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Speaker 1: they were living their best life, but like now I don't.

584
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Speaker 1: It was just like tearing apart something that seemed like

585
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Speaker 1: they were content before.

586
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Speaker 2: No, it is upsetting. And I know you wanted to

587
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Speaker 2: talk about something that Maureen talked about on The Nerve

588
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Speaker 2: recently too, which was this controversial interview with Jeremy Irons,

589
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Speaker 2: the actor. In twenty thirteen. He did this controversial interview

590
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Speaker 2: about same sex marriage and suggested it could open the

591
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Speaker 2: door for fathers and sons to mary, perhaps as a

592
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Speaker 2: way for a father to pass down property without estate

593
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Speaker 2: taxes upon death, and then he said this technically would

594
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Speaker 2: not be incest if it were between men, because incest

595
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Speaker 2: is there to protect us from inbreeding, but men don't breed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason that I told you to bring up

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Speaker 1: this point that Maureen was talking about this week was

599
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Speaker 1: because in the post that we wrote in the Gross Room,

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Speaker 1: there are certain laws that are only apply to people

601
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Speaker 1: that are of age to like if you're older and

602
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Speaker 1: you can't procreate anymore, you can't have babies anymore, then

603
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: you're fine or so in theory, like certain states in

604
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Speaker 1: certain states. But it's just like what he's saying is

605
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Speaker 1: I mean, like it's so wrong and disgusting, But it's

606
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Speaker 1: if if the laws are created so people are not

607
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: it's not morally wrong. If you want the United States

608
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: are basically saying they don't give a shit, it's not

609
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: morally wrong. If you want to marry, even your brother

610
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: and sister, it's because they're scared that you're going to

611
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Speaker 1: have babies that have problems. So in theory, if you

612
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: can't have babies, then like, what's the harm. Well, that

613
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: is ridiculous, I mean, it's it's absolutely ridiculous. I'm just

614
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Speaker 1: putting it out there that the laws aren't created because

615
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: every single time didn't we just talk about this a

616
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that in the UK, like that

617
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Speaker 1: the National Health Service in the UK had said something

618
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Speaker 1: that there wasn't a problem with it, and then they

619
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Speaker 1: like backtracked it or something.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I guess what he's saying is like,

621
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Speaker 2: incest is an incest unless you're pro creating. But like

622
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Speaker 2: that is not true. And there are plenty of fathers

623
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Speaker 2: and grandfathers that molest boys as well, they have relationships.

624
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Speaker 1: You're not talking about little boys, You're talking about two

625
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Speaker 1: grown men.

626
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Speaker 2: No, I don't sorry, I didn't mean to say that,

627
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Speaker 2: but you know what I'm trying to say, Like it

628
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do with pro creating.

629
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Speaker 3: It's the fact that like you.

630
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Speaker 2: Should not be engaging in sexual activity at all with

631
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Speaker 2: a family member, whether it results in procreation or not.

632
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Speaker 1: But that's that's that's not scientific though, that's just moral.

633
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Speaker 3: Well morally, that's how I believe.

634
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Speaker 1: No, Obviously, Like if you ask anybody, they're gonna say, oh, yeah,

635
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Speaker 1: like ew think about your cousins, Like ew, no, no thanks, right,

636
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Speaker 1: But but they're just saying like they don't care if

637
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: you do it. They just care because they don't only

638
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: having a baby with that person. So if you can't

639
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Speaker 1: have a baby, then like, what's the problem.

640
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Speaker 3: This is insane.

641
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Speaker 2: I can't believe this conversation actually comes up so frequently

642
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: because if we talk about that mom that accidentally married

643
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: the son she gave up for adoption when she was

644
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: really young.

645
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, did they don't?

646
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It happens. Like you were just saying,

647
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Speaker 1: I don't think you should marry anyone in your family tree,

648
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: but like we I feel like we actually know someone

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: that we heard this story when we were younger that

650
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: one person went to school with their brother that they

651
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: didn't know it was their brother and there they never dated,

652
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: but there was I mean almostly they almost did. Yeah,

653
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: Like when there's two people that are seventeen years old

654
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Speaker 1: in a school together and they don't know they're related. That,

655
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Speaker 1: I mean, it happens from time to time. It just

656
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Speaker 1: has to just well.

657
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Speaker 2: Especially if people are having affairs and stuff and they're

658
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Speaker 2: not open.

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Speaker 1: So what ha, Like that's the thing, Like what happens,

660
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Speaker 1: wasn't it with that mom? Like you're you're dating a

661
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: person for a certain amount of time and that you

662
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Speaker 1: don't even find out until years later. When these DNA

663
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: tests come out that you give someone for Christmas, Like

664
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Speaker 1: it's you know what I mean? Like you don't you

665
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Speaker 1: just don't always know.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: A new documentary is coming out about a man who

668
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Speaker 2: underwent a controversial surgery to change his eye color. What

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Speaker 2: do you think could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 1: This is this is something we've talked about in the past,

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Speaker 1: but this is a different kind of procedure. First, where

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Speaker 1: where can we watch this documentary?

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Speaker 2: So it's called Caterpillar and it's in theaters now. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure if it's immediately going to streaming after.

675
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Speaker 1: But so this is this is a really interesting thing

676
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Speaker 1: because this person that made this documentary followed this guy

677
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Speaker 1: who wanted to permanently change his eye color. So we

678
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Speaker 1: all know that they sell these contact lenses you could

679
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Speaker 1: get to change your eye color, but there's some different

680
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: kinds of surgeries that could be done to actually change

681
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Speaker 1: the color of your eye without having to put contacts in.

682
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Speaker 1: And she followed this guy there, and I think there

683
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Speaker 1: were a couple of people that So it's important to

684
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Speaker 1: know that this is an implant that they put inside

685
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Speaker 1: of your eye to change the color of your iris,

686
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Speaker 1: which is the colored part of your eye and it's

687
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Speaker 1: not FDA approved in America, but there are some countries

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Speaker 1: that do it. I think it was like, was it

689
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Speaker 1: Turkey or India? Whatever?

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Speaker 3: This procedure was done in India.

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Speaker 1: In India. Okay. So this documentary film crew goes and

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Speaker 1: follows people that are going to go get this controversial

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Speaker 1: procedure done, and one of the patients asked the doctor,

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Speaker 1: would you do it on yourself? And he said, well, no,

695
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Speaker 1: I like the color of my eyes. And then he

696
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: said something like I probably wouldn't do it anyway because

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Speaker 1: there's too many complications. And I guess this documentary filmmaker

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Speaker 1: was so shocked because after her hearing that, she she

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Speaker 1: still went through with the procedure, even after hearing the

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Speaker 1: doctor themselves say I wouldn't get it for myself. And

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Speaker 1: as a documentary filmmaker, I guess you are in situation sometimes,

702
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Speaker 1: especially when you're filming super controversial things, that things happen

703
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: that you're like, oh my god, should I intervene and

704
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: stop this because this is so crazy right now? But

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: I guess you're trying to capture it as well, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the person still an adult and making a choice.

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Speaker 2: I mean, red flag number one for me is this

708
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: guy went to the company and wanted to get it

709
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Speaker 2: done but didn't have the money, so then promised to

710
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: do promotion in exchange for the surgery, and like, you

711
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 2: should not.

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Speaker 1: Be Also, red flag number two is if the FDA

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Speaker 1: didn't approve it. I mean, the FDA has approved some

714
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: crazy shit. If they didn't approve it, it must be really bad.

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00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: If they approved oxycont and no questions asked, then you

716
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: should really be thinking about everything else. Yeah, I mean

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: that was absolutely insane to me, and like, personally, I

718
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Speaker 2: just would never do anything to touch my eyeballs.

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Speaker 3: Unless it was an emergency.

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Speaker 1: So the guy gets it done, and I agree, like

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Speaker 1: I won't even get the laser surgery from my eyes.

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Speaker 3: I just neither.

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Speaker 1: Ever, I don't even want to put contact lenses in

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Speaker 1: my eyes. It's just like it's just like my most

725
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: cherished body part, honestly, Like I can't imagine purposely screwing

726
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: with it. But anyway, Yeah, I mean, so this guy

727
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: gets it done and dull he starts having complications of

728
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: his eyes are tearing all the time and he's getting

729
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: headaches all the time, Like shock are right? Yeah, so

730
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Speaker 1: so I mean, this is this is why it's not

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Speaker 1: approved here yet, And I just wonder, like, how do

732
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: you how do you not regret? I mean you have

733
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: regret like that, but that's just like the most the

734
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Speaker 1: biggest regret ever. I don't eat because you can't ever

735
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: go back and you know it's closet because and I

736
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Speaker 1: suppose this is why the FDA isn't approving it, because

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00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a foreign body. We talk about foreign bodies

738
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: all the time, not the rectal ones that people put in,

739
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: but like getting a foreign body implanted in you, whether

740
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: it's a piercing in a weird place or just getting

741
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: an eud or something. Whenever you put a foreign substance

742
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: into your body that's going to live there for a while,

743
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: your body it starts to attack it because it recognizes

744
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: that it shouldn't be there. And some people's bodies freak

745
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: out worse than others, and foreign bodies could cause serious

746
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: problems for people. And you could put them in your

747
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: eye and all of a sudden, your own immune system

748
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 1: is going to start attacking that and trying to get

749
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Speaker 1: it out and push it out. And why would you

750
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: want your immune system attacking on your eye. I mean,

751
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: it's just so crazy. Now, certain times people have to

752
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: get foreign bodies, especially for medical reasons, and then that's

753
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: when you take the risk and say, well, I need

754
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: this in ferior of being a cave of filter because

755
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to get a clot that's going to

756
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: travel to my lung and kill me. So I'm going

757
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: to get this far and body put in, even though

758
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: they're complications, because the other complication is death. But for

759
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Speaker 1: something stupid like changing your eye color, especially when the

760
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: contacts I mean, and we could you could even go

761
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: as far as breast implants and some of the problems

762
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: people have had with those. It's just like it's it's

763
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Speaker 1: not to me anyway, Like people could do whatever they

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Speaker 1: want to do, but especially with this guy with the

765
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Speaker 1: eye color, it's just like, is it really that hard

766
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Speaker 1: to just put contact lenses in every day? Like I

767
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Speaker 1: don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Well to your point, though, your vision is a lot

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Speaker 2: different than having nice boobs, right, Like, it's your vision.

770
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Speaker 2: You should not be messing with your vision because there's

771
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: obviously people that are living in a blind but if

772
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Speaker 2: you were born with vision, you should not do anything

773
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Speaker 2: unnecessary tampsit just like and there's a lot of studies

774
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: and correlations with people having procedures done like that that

775
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: correlate with like your underlying mental health and everything like that,

776
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: because sometimes those kind of changes really have like an

777
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: adverse psychological effect on people. And it's like, this is

778
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: the problem because they're preying on people that don't have money,

779
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: and now the guy doesn't have money to even get

780
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: it fixed, and it's just terrible. Wait did you also

781
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: see this part too, Kah. There's an alleged packaging mishap

782
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: causing him to receive the incorrect eye color, leaving him

783
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: with jade green eyes instead of frost gray. So then,

784
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: after expressing his frustration, he went ahead with the procedure

785
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: anyway because the company repeatedly told him it was going

786
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Speaker 2: to make his life better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like, how do you undergo a procedure like

788
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Speaker 1: that when they say, oh, we got the wrong ones,

789
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: but you're here, you might as well get them. It's

790
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: so outrageous.

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Speaker 2: This is reminding me of the guy with the tracheas.

792
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't remember his name, that's off the top of

793
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: my head, you know what I'm talking about, the band surgeon.

794
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: It's just like total fraudulent to be. I want to

795
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: see this documentary, but I don't know if I could

796
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: watch it. If they're showing eye surgery stuff that really

797
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: skeeps me out.

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Speaker 3: But I'm interested.

799
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Speaker 1: No, I am too. I feel like that needs to

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