1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, party people, 2 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: Straight Fire with McIntyre. Yes, it's Wednesday, February third, super 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Bowl in chin Closure. It feels like it's taken forever 4 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: to get here. We uh, we got, we got until Sunday. 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: We will get another super Bowl best bet at the 6 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: end of this podcast. If you missed yesterday's pod, it's 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: one I've already fired on today's bet that I'm giving out. 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: I've already fired on that one. This one's a bit 9 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: of a long shot, but it's a fun one. Guys 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: are gonna love this super Bowl prop bet. Um. You know, 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to start the podcast today with kind of 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a hot take that I don't know 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: if it's gonna go over well, but I'm texting with 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Rob g. You know, he's got these ideas and he 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: says stuff, and um, I said, listen, I'm just gonna 16 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: go here and I'm gonna put it out there because 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: I firmly believe it. I spent probably on Tuesday a 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: good ninety minutes breaking this down and it has to 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: do with Pat Mahomes and all time quarterbacks, and we're 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna get to that shortly, But you're gonna have to 21 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: wait for nine seconds because I've got to talk about 22 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: this story that appeared in the Las Vegas Journal Review 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: late on Tuesday. I don't know if you saw it, 24 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: the chatter that Derek Carr could be shocked by the Raiders. 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: They in turn flip him for two first round picks, 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: and then they package that with their own first round 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: and their next first round pick, and they say, hey, Houston, 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: here's four first round picks. Give us to Shawn Watson. 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: And I read this, and you know that mind blowing 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: emoji where the head is exploding. I'm like, whoa hold 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: on what? Step? At a time? Derek Carr is suddenly 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: worth two first round picks on what planet? Like? Derek 33 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: Car's a good quarterback. He was excellent last year, no 34 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: doubt about it. He was phenomenal. Got one of the 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: best tight ends in the league, very good running black back, 36 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: and elite offensive line. Um, you know Henry Ruggs emerging. Uh. 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I like the Raiders and I like Derek Carr, but 38 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: two first round picks. And so what's interesting is then 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: Calherd calls me after I tweet about this on Tuesday, 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, I think there's something to this, 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Derek Carr um, you know, trade and getting Watson too 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: the Vegas and I'm like, well, here's what I don't get. 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: What team is giving up two first round picks for Car? 44 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna ask you this. If you are 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Vegas and you somehow get two first round picks for 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: Car and you go to Houston and say here's four 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: first give me Watson, I need to say time out. 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Let me look at those first round picks because if 49 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: they ain't in the top ten, what are we doing here? 50 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: Because I'm telling you guys right now, you can go 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: look at the history if you go ahead and package 52 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: let's say twelve, seventeen, twenty one and seven. I'm just 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: throwing out four numbers that are not in the top 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: ten because I don't know anybody in the top ten 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: who's giving that up for Derek Carr. Sorry, if I'm 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: being told Sam Donald is maybe worth a two and yes, 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: Cars better than Donald, it's quite a leap to say 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: Derek Cars wears two two first round picks. It's quite 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: a leap. Derek Carr is not in the same class 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: as Matt Stafford. No, and remember the Goff Stafford deal 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: was unique because of the golf contract. That's why there 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: were so many first round picks involved. But Derek car 63 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: is not worth two first I'm sorry. And you know, 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: going to Houston with twelve, seventeen, twenty one, and twenty 65 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: seven or whatever, I don't know that you're gonna get 66 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: a slam dunk quarterback at any of those positions. This 67 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: is why the Jets and the Dolphins are in the 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: driver's seat. The Jets at too. You say, here you go, 69 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: you're not getting Trevor Lawrence, but you've got your pick 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: of the Litterally, you like Justin Fields, you like Zack Wilson. 71 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: Now you don't like any of those guys. Then you 72 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: get the best defensive player on the board, or you 73 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: get the best left tackle to build a round, although 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: I know they have Lara B. Tunsil Um. You don't 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: want to draft all right tack or then you trade 76 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: two to somebody who wants who really Covets Fields or 77 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson or out of nobody wants Mac Jones at too. 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if Houston is so far away they 79 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: have no defensive players, they then can have room to 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: negotiate with the number two pick. But you don't have 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: a lot if you've got four first round picks in 82 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: the next two years that aren't in the top ten. 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: None of them are. It's just there's a lot. I'm 84 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: not buying that. I'm not buying Derek Carr's first worth 85 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: two first round picks, and um, I personally don't think 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Houston bikes. Listen, we will have a guest on the 87 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: podcast tomorrow who is going to help us get to 88 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. That's your tease, all right, now 89 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: to what I think it's my most interesting Super Bowl storyline. 90 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: Rob g and I batting around some ideas. I said, 91 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: all right, Rob, I'm looking at the ten best quarterbacks 92 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: of the modern era. Okay, I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm 93 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: not going back to Bart Star. Okay, Johnny Uniteds phenomenal career, 94 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: amazing player. I'm not. I'm not going back to the 95 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. Okay, I'm just not doing that. Johnny United 96 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: is awesome quarterback, like nineteen sixty four? Are we going there? Really? 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Otto Graham? Is that what you want to hear? Otto 98 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: Graham's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. The 99 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: street like in his prime. In his time, he was amazing. 100 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I'm not putting those guys in the 101 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: modern era. I mean United kind of skirts it because 102 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: he he won in sixty four and sixty seven. Um. 103 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: It really depends where you want to make the cut 104 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: off for the modern era. UM. A lot of people 105 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: like to say nineteen seventy, after the a f L 106 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: and NFL merged. Uh some people like to say when 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era started in sixty six, in which 108 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: case United has one and sixty seven. But for the 109 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: purposes of this discussion, I'm calling the modern era after 110 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: the league's merged in nine. Okay. My argument is if 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes wins the Super Bowl on Sunday, Patrick Mahomes 112 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: in three seasons as a starter at the age of 113 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 1: will have two Super Bowl rings, an m v P Award, 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: and perhaps two Super Bowl MVP Awards. And I said 115 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: to Rob G, I said, if Pat Mahomes has done 116 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: that much after three seasons, he is already a top 117 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: ten quarterback in the NFL. And Rob G gives me that, 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: you know, waiting to reply like dot dot dot, and 119 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: he's waiting, he's waiting, and he's like I like it, 120 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: and folks, this is not that difficult. I made the list. 121 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: There's a top ten quarterbacks in the modern era of 122 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. And seriously, with a victory in the Super Bowl, 123 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes will crack the top ten. Now the guy 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna boot out. You're not gonna want to hear. 125 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go through the top ten. And this 126 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: is not that difficult. This is pretty easy. Okay, let's begin. 127 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Number one, Tom Brady. Nothing needs to be said. He 128 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: is the greatest quarterback in NFL history, bar none. Next 129 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: number two, Joe Montana. I don't think I'm gonna get 130 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: any pushback, you know, four and oh in the Super 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Bowls three Super Bowl m vps, the guy went back 132 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: to back regular season NFL MVP awards. Montana was the 133 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: goat until Brady passed him. This is where it gets interesting. Okay, 134 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: Number three, A few guys can make the case. I'm 135 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: going with Peyton Manning. I know he only has two 136 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings. The guy was unbelievable. Okay, you can't 137 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: tell the story of the NFL modern era without Peyton 138 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Manning very high up in the story. It was basically 139 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Manning and Brady dominating the NFL for I don't fifteen 140 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: ish years. Peyton Manning four m v P Awards. I know, 141 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: the second Super Bowl with Denver whatever, he was a 142 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: fossil in the defense carried him and he was terrible. 143 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: But a crazy stat I found researching this. Peyton Manning 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: is one of two quarterbacks in NFL history with two 145 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: hundred postseason and regular season wins combined. And I know 146 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: quarterback ways, Jason, what a dumb stat. We're gonna get 147 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: to quarterback wins. I don't like it as a stat, 148 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: it does kind of enter the discussion a little bit 149 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: when you look big picture and can get a larger 150 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: than sample size than Lamar Jackson hasn't one but one 151 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: playoff game. He's not any good. Like that's a tiny 152 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,479 Speaker 1: sample size. Okay. Peyton Manning in his career in the postseason, 153 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: fourteen and thirteen great quarterback. He did lose three early 154 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: in his career when this when they were not very good. 155 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: But I do believe it matters. And this goes back 156 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: to Matt Stafford when we talked about it, Like Staffords 157 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: owing three in the playoffs always states you can't want 158 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: a big game Okay, let's dive a little bit deeper. Okay, 159 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford owen three in the playoffs. Okay, he was 160 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: an underdog of six and a half or more in 161 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: all three games, and he was on the road in 162 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: all three games. So let's not act like he should 163 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: have won those games. Okay. I know you've ultimately got 164 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: to pull an upset or two, you know, if you 165 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: want to be great, obviously that matters. But Peyton Manning 166 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: fourteen and thirteen career postseason record, I can't put him 167 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: ahead of Joe Montana. I'm sorry. So Tom Brady won 168 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: Joe Montana to Peyton Manning three. Number four Again, this 169 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: can be a spirited debate for my scoring purposes. It's 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: John Elway, UM number four quarterback of all time. You 171 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: guys know that, UM old school. I think it was 172 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: in the nineteen eighties, those strongman competitions they were on 173 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: ESPN where you would have this hulking refrigerator size man 174 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: tire rope around his waist and he would try to 175 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: pull like an eighteen wheeler and it would be like, 176 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: who can tug an eight team wheeler across the finish line? 177 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: To me, John Elway did that with the Denver Broncos. 178 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: He basically put the entire franchise on his back and 179 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: dragged it to five Super Bowls. Okay, I know he 180 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: got just absolutely thrashed the first few times he was 181 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Started owing three a couple of 182 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: really ugly losses in there, but he didn't have a 183 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: good team. But John Elway, holy cow, this guy was phenomenal. 184 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, I have him as the fourth 185 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: best quarterback in modern NFL history. I don't know how 186 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: much pushback there's gonna be. I'm actually kind of curious, 187 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: um if people hate that, because you know, the next 188 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: two guys have a strong case, and you know John 189 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: Elway only won one m v P Award in Um, 190 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: but this is a guy who was essentially he was 191 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: right there with Joe Montana as the best quarterback in 192 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: the eighties. I know there's another guy. We're gonna get 193 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: to him, UM, but I have John Elway as number four. 194 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: He did win two Super Bowls at the end of 195 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: his career. And yes, I can hear you saying, yeah, 196 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: he didn't win until he got to Roll Davis. I'm 197 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: aware of that. I've said that myself. John Elway. Fourth 198 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: best quarterback modern NFL history. Number five Brett Farve, and um, 199 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, three m v P Awards in a row. 200 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Brett Farve in the nineties was off the charts, 201 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: and he, I believe, set the record for starting three 202 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: and twenty one straight games, just a marathon. Man. I'm impressed. 203 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Now you're you're not that impressed when you hear he 204 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: only won one ring given all those seasons and there 205 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,479 Speaker 1: were some playoff letdown thirteen and eleven in the playoffs. Um, 206 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: but you also have to factor in. Brett Farve also 207 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: played in the Peyton Brady era, and you know it's 208 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: tough to win when you're up against a Synasty's like that. 209 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Brett Farve also, by the way, was in the league 210 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: when the Dallas Cowboys dynasty happened, so kind of some 211 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: unlucky stuff there. But you can't take that away Brett 212 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: far How many guys have played quarterback in the NFL 213 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: in the modern era. I'm just gonna toss out at 214 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: number five hundred five started twenty more games. I don't. 215 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm just tossing out a number to say Brett Farve 216 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: is the fifth is not a slight in any way, 217 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: shape or form. So to recap Brady one Montana to Peyton, three, Lway, four, 218 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Far five Steve Young number six. This one probably will 219 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: make some people upset because he was only the starter 220 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: for seven years, given he sat behind Montana in seven 221 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: years as a starter, the dude won three Super Bowls, 222 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: and yes he was handed a dynasty um from Montana, 223 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: and Steve Young won two m v p s. He's 224 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: at Jerry Rice and such a loaded team. I get 225 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: all that, but you still gotta deliver. You know, you've 226 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: got to win the games. And Steve Young was a 227 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: great quarterback, a running quarterback ahead of his time. By 228 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: the way, you will see none of the other guys. 229 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Elway was a scrambler, but Steve Young was 230 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: a runner. Um. You'll know far of again, another scrambler. 231 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Young really a running quarterback. I mean that run against 232 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings is still I can still remember sitting on 233 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: my couch, my jaw dropping as a young guy like 234 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: who Steve Young? Oh my god, this guy's ridiculous. Steve 235 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: Young sixth greatest quarterback in the NFL modern era. Number seven. 236 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: I have Aaron Rodgers here. He's got three MVP Awards guys, 237 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: and I'm counting this year's by the way, um, he 238 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: has only one ring, he is only eleven nine, eleven 239 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: and nine in the playoffs. There is sort of a 240 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: John Elway esque field to Aaron Rodgers. And I know 241 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: I have a big time Packers buddy who used to 242 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: work for me at the Big Lead. And um, I'm 243 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: curious as too if he thinks Aaron Rodgers just a 244 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: little bit overrated, because you could argue Rogers is maybe 245 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: top three most talented. This guy is just off the 246 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: charts good. It is a little unfortunate that he has 247 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: come up empty in the playoffs. I think he's lost 248 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: three NSC championship games. I remember Seattle. I obviously remember 249 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: the last two back to back. Um, and you know, 250 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: what can you do? It's not like Aaron Rodgers was 251 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: the guy who dropped the on side kick against Seattle. 252 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: You know. Um, So I have hit him as the 253 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: seventh best quarterback of the NFL modern era and number 254 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: eight Drew Brees. I was stunned by this stat. Drew 255 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Brees has never won an NFL MVP. Work cannot even 256 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: be true. How does Drew Brees never want an MVP? 257 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, great quarterback. Come on, um, he did win 258 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring and he's one of the most 259 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: accurate pastors obviously in NFL history. Interesting career playoff record 260 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: nine and nine. Yes, I know who you guys are 261 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: thinking of when I bring up playoff records Mark Sanchez 262 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: four and two. Obviously, so Drew Brees, number eight, number nine. 263 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: I had Terry Bradshaw. This is the only guy going 264 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: back to the seventies that I included on the list. Listen, guys, 265 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: you win four Super bowls. Uh, you win two Super 266 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: Bowl m vps. You're a pretty damn good quarterback. And 267 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw was part of that dynasty in Pittsburgh in 268 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: the seventies. No, I'm not saying this because I worked 269 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: with him. Have never met Terry Bradshaw. I don't think 270 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: on the lot um. I don't want to give away anything. 271 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: I hope I don't get in trouble. But there may 272 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: be a Fox Sports Digital Super Bowl watch party with 273 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw and Jason McIntyre in some way, shape or 274 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: form coming up. We'll see we'll see um obviously, not 275 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: just USU. So Terry Bradshaw number nine and number ten, 276 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: the guy everybody's been waiting for. Dan Marino never won 277 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. The only guy in the top ten 278 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: that never wanted to bowl put up monster numbers eight 279 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: and ten in the playoffs, only one super Bowl trip. 280 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: And my big build up to this is, Guys, if 281 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes beats Tom Brady and when the Super Bowl, 282 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: you've got to put Pat Mahomes in the top ten 283 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: and you have to remove Dan Marino. And Dan Marino 284 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: was a phenomenal quarterback. He had good receivers, he had 285 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: a really good coach. Um. One of the defenses left 286 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: a little something to be desired. Um. You could argue 287 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: about the lack of running game, but when you start 288 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: getting that granular, it's almost like you're trying to make excuses. 289 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not for Dan Marino. He was a great, 290 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: great quarterback, unlucky and then I think the only ring 291 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: he won was an eighth center a pet detective. By 292 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the way, great movie showed it to the kids. Let's 293 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: just say they didn't totally understand the Finkle design horn thing. 294 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Um they're young. Um, but I do believe Patrick Mahomes 295 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: will pass Dan Marino and enter the top ten. NFL 296 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks of all time. If Patrick Mahomes wins a second 297 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl at and I'm not gonna go Tony Romo 298 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: and um say Mahomes can never catch Brady if he 299 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: loses this. Um, I just want to remind you, guys, 300 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is twenty five. He's doing stuff that nobody 301 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: could have imagined from a guy who was picked at 302 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: the tenth position in the draft. And I don't want 303 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: to hear Willie's Andy Reid. Um, this is gonna be 304 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: painful to some Eagles fans. But what had Andy Reid 305 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: won before Pat Mahomes. Andy be was a great coach 306 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: into a bunch of NFCY title games, went to a 307 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the one where Donovan McNabb vomited all over 308 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: the field. Um, Andy, he was a very very good 309 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: coach who could not get over the hump. Pat Homes 310 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: put him over the hump. So I don't want to 311 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: hear this. Pat Mahomes has a stack team, guys. I 312 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: went on the walk, Remember I went, I gotta walk 313 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: a hike with our family and another one we wore masks. 314 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Just putting that out there, and my son was like, 315 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: with the other guy, who's the fourth grade. They were like, wait, 316 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: how did the Chiefs get Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey. 317 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I was like, you guys didn't know this. Tyreek Hill 318 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: was like a fifth round draft pick and Kelsey was 319 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: like a third round pick. And they were like, oh, 320 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: so it's not like Patrick Mahomes came to this ridiculously 321 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: stacked team that's the greatest team in NFL history. This 322 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: ain't Steve Young taking over from Montana. No disrespect to 323 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, who did go to the playoffs the year before. 324 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes took over as a starter. But Mahomes is 325 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: what makes this team go. Okay, They're not loaded with 326 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: incredible defensive Hall of famers. Yeah, Chris Jones is awesome, 327 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: and Honey Badger is really really good, and Steve Spagnolo 328 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal defensive coach. But this idea that Mahomes 329 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: is like in the perfect position. I mean, everybody has 330 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: to be in a great position, don't they. I mean, 331 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: you could have said the same one Dan Marino went 332 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: to Don Shula, right, I mean, hello, that's perfect. I mean, folks, 333 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I just named the top ten quarterbacks in NFL modern history. 334 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: The Packers for the last like twenty five years are 335 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: represented on that list. I mean, listen, there's a lot 336 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: of happenstance that's happened. But this idea that Oh Holmes 337 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: is on a sack team, Like I just I'll just 338 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: ask you, guys, I don't Maybe I missed it, But 339 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: what had the Chiefs one before Patrick Mahomes got there? 340 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. So for my money, Mahomes wins this, 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: he cracks the top ten, and I'm not gonna lie, guys, like, 342 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: there's a chance by the age of thirty he hadds 343 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: another one, another one after. I mean, I don't know 344 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: what's stopping the Chiefs at this point short of off 345 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: field issues two major stars obviously injuries. Um, you know, 346 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: maybe the salary cap slows them down. They just paid 347 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 1: Pat Malmes five on a million. But this guy, my home, 348 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: these guys, we we do. I don't know that I've 349 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: ever seen anything like. You know a lot of these 350 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: get Peyton Manning, you knew greatness was coming. Tom Brady, 351 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: we did not know that was coming. Nobody could have 352 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: predicted that. Anybody who tells you that's lying, Um, anybody 353 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: who predicted for also lying. Remember he was drafted second 354 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: round by the Atlanta Falcons. Okay, nobody thought Aaron Rodgers 355 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: would be this good, falling to twenty in the draft. 356 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: Elway was they can't miss prospect. We get that Joe 357 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: Montana given back to his Notre Dame Day's phenomenal quarterback. Um, 358 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: but you know this Patrick Mahomes stuff is ridiculous. It's 359 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: just really crazy what he's accomplished. Now there is probably well, 360 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: there's a couple of names. Troy Aikman was very close. UM. 361 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: I have Roger Staubach as very very close. UM. A 362 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: guy I need to give some more thought too, is 363 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Um. You guys know, I'm a huge fan 364 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson. He's got a Super Bowl, doesn't have 365 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: an m v P. UM lost the Super Bowl by 366 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: throwing a pick on the two yard line. Not totally 367 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: his fault. But I don't know where Russell Wilson ends 368 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: up on that list. He's certainly top his numbers are 369 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: continuing to grow. But by the end of his career, 370 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: is he gonna sniff top ten? I will see. But 371 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: for now that's my top ten and I'm sticking to it. 372 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching 373 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. And 374 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: here's your best bet. All right, it's time for the 375 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: best bet. Yesterday we gave out one super Bowl prop 376 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: and my next one. You guys are gonna love this one. 377 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: This is a fun super Bowl prop. This is pizza money, 378 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: This is not play. This is a four fun You 379 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: will enjoy the game. Now. I'm not into the what 380 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: color is the gatorade bath on? Andy Reid or Brucey Rands. 381 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm not in two heads or tails. That's just silly nonsense. Okay, 382 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: this is a fun bet. Will any field goal or 383 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: extra point attempt hit the uprights or the crossbar? Now 384 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: I did see a plus four for Yes, I have 385 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: bet this, Um, and I'll tell you why. I think 386 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: this brings joy to every single kick and everyone in 387 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the room, whoever you're wherever you're watching outdoors hopefully, Um, 388 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: everybody is going to get pumped for every kick. Usually 389 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: you know it's oh, it's got a touchdown. Great, let 390 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: me go to the bathroom. No not. When you make 391 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: this bet, you will be watching and rooting for the 392 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: doink you're gonna And now I have looked at the 393 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: wind a little bit right now they're calling for winds maybe, 394 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 1: but it's still a little early in the week to 395 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: think about that. Um. And there's really no research you 396 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: can do on uh, you know, the kickers and hitting 397 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: the uprights or the crossbar like it is a little 398 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: bit on the lucky side. Um. The rooting for a 399 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: doink and the noise that it makes when it hits 400 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: off the upright is cool. You guys have to admit that. UM. 401 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I think back to Justin Tucker, one of the greatest 402 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: kickers in NFL history, arguably number one, hits the upright 403 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: twice in that game against the Bills twice, Like, I mean, 404 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: you know, that was cool. I love hearing the doint 405 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: the thud. Now. I did not like hearing the doink 406 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: slash thud when the Chicago Bears kicker lost it to 407 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles a few years ago. I had Unfortunately, I 408 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: was heavily invested in the Bears on that one. That 409 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: really really hurt. Um. But in the Super Bowl, rooting 410 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: for a doink, Come on, that's awesome. That's fun. So 411 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: I will advocate put some pizza money on. I'm not saying, 412 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, take all your game stop winnings and rolling 413 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: into will any field goal extra point hit the uprights 414 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: across are But yes, at plus four, that's a fun bet. 415 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: And the way I look at it, the over under 416 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: of fifty six and a half is calling for anywhere 417 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: from six to seven touchdowns, maybe eight couple of field 418 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: goals anywhere in that range. So you're looking at possibly 419 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: eight kicks to hit the upright or crossbar, And to me, 420 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: that's just like fun. It just adds a level of 421 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: excitement to every kick in the game. And guys, I 422 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: hope you piggybacked me on that and we win. That's 423 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: it for today's show. Don't come at me hard, Dan 424 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: Marino fans. I know you guys are gonna be angry, 425 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you Pat Mahomes will crack the top 426 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: ten with a Super Bowl victory Sunday,