1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless, 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: severely bug bitten in my case, underwear listening to Hunt 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: Don't Meet to Eat podcast. You can't predict anything presented 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: by first, like creating proven versatile hunting apparel from Marino 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: bass layers to technical outerwear for every hunt first like 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: go farther, stay longer, as say, I don't have I 7 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: don't have like a strong emotional connection to the song. Now, oh, 8 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: there's a way to hand all right, everybody. We're in Atlanta, Georgia, 9 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: joined by Austin Riley Third Basement for the Atlanta Braves. 10 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. You guys, beat you guys, beat 11 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: our man Pete last night. Bad. That's all bad. You 12 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: got You weren't like it seemed like you just like 13 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: parked your car and came in there and got a 14 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: nice hit. Yeah. I mean, um, we needed that one. 15 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the racist is tough. They've you know, the 16 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: Mets are a really good squad. Um they've had a 17 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: really good season and and you know we're we're trying 18 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: to win a division and and you know, this is 19 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: what September baseball is all about. It's I mean, it's 20 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: it's about those those fights um with it within the division. 21 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: And and you know last night was luckily it was 22 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: on our side, but pe got two more against him. 23 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: And you know, any anything can happen. Explain to me, like, um, 24 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: explain me like I'm five years old, which is about 25 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: where I'm at with baseball knowledge for sure. Okay, so 26 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: lastly you guys won handily. Well, I mean in the end, 27 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: someone could have liked last inning is a little hairy. 28 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: But and and uh just the amber we just met him, 29 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: uh Tyler, he was milking it out at the plate. 30 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Bases were loaded. I was like, wow, this is like, 31 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: you know, could it could change in a heartbeat? Oh yeah, 32 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: like one hit could have been that you guys would 33 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: have been you guys would have been losing off. Yeah yeah. 34 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: What do you do when when that's going on? You 35 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: do you look? I mean, oh yeah, you definitely you 36 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta play the whole situations um in your head. 37 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: I mean you know that's yeah, you know, bases loaded 38 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: up by three, you know, one like I said, one 39 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: swinging back could could put us down by one. Um. 40 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: But you know, having Kindley up there, you know the 41 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: career that he's had, I mean he's he's one of 42 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: the best closers in the game. You know, you know 43 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: in baseball, it's been around, I mean he so you 44 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: definitely have a trust in him, no, no doubt, um 45 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: and and luckily it was he was able to slam 46 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the door. Well, so, now here's the part you gotta 47 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: explaining to me, like I'm five, okay, you guys are 48 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: you can both head of the playoffs, But there's a 49 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: You have a three game series, correct, So whoever whoever 50 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: would win the the the advantage of winning the series 51 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: is just that you get a break. Correct, So right 52 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: now we've so right now, obviously it's tied now, but 53 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: say if the Mets were to to win the division, 54 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: they would get a You basically missed the wild Whoever 55 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: wins the division, you missed the wild card. So if say, 56 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: if we were to to lose, we would uh in 57 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: the season in Miami on Wednesday, have an off day 58 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then we would play the wild card Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 59 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: And then if whoever wins the division, that you would 60 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: get like that five day break, and there's and then 61 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: you have fewer games separating you from the finality of it. 62 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: All separating you from the championship. You have you have 63 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: fewer opportunities to get knocked out. Correct. So it's like 64 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: you got the wild card n LDS and l yes, 65 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: and then the World Series. So you know, if you 66 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: make it all the way to the World Series, you're 67 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: playing until November seven. Um. So it's it actually is 68 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: a there's a lot of downtime, but at the same time, 69 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: it like flies but going through it last year, Um, 70 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: the playoffs fly by. Um. But it's just like like 71 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: right now, so we're tied right now, say if we 72 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: were so we got three games after after these two games, um, 73 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: and say if we tie, then it goes to the 74 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: best record against each other. So say if say, if 75 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: we were to tie like straight up to end the season, um, 76 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: and then then it would go but who who won 77 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: the most games between us and the Mets, like out 78 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: of the whole season, and then that's who That's how 79 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: you decide the division. So UM, it gets a little 80 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: a little complicated at times. Um. Yeah, I wish I 81 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: was wishing it to be more clean. Ye oh yeah, 82 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: and now you wish you could like like the Super 83 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: bowls clean. Yeah. Now that it's just like it's just 84 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: like even like minor like you got the minor leagues, 85 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: you got through. I went through six systems before I 86 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: got to the big leagues. It's like you played for 87 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: six years before you even get the opportunity at the 88 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: big leagues. It's just baseball is complicated. That's the only 89 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: way to put it. Yeah, but you came up like 90 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: through the ranks. So man, I you know, it was 91 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to to kind of go through pretty quick. Um, 92 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: you know. And and just like I said, I had 93 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the organization gave me every opportunity and 94 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: in the books to to grow my game and and succeed. Um. 95 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: So I mean, like I said, I've been been very fortunate. 96 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: And Austin played for one of the best minor league 97 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: team names. He played for the Halinas for a little bit. 98 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: So that's the Fall League. That's another like. And so 99 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: there's a league that, um that they do that's not 100 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: affiliated with any organization. So it's they call it the 101 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Arizona Fall League. Um. It happens the month of November. Uh, 102 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: it's in it's in Arizona at the their the Springs 103 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: Tining complexes out there and each team it sends like 104 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: two or three guys from each squad and they go 105 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: play together. Um, and you know you play like I 106 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: think it's like thirty games, super laid back. Um, but yeah, 107 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: that's it's not an affiliate or anything, but um it is. 108 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: It's a different type of type of league. But it's 109 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: it's fun. You know what we're talking about last night? 110 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: Do you do you get when you hear take me 111 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: out to the ballpark? What's that song? How's it going? Okay, 112 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: I'll give five bucks. Any one this room can tell 113 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: me who wrote that. I don't even know it. Keep 114 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: you when you hear it? Do you get stirred up? 115 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: I think it gets played so much and just kind 116 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: of tune it out a little bit. This thing is 117 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: everybody got up to sing and Krian I was like, 118 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: why aren't you singing? As? I just don't having them. Yeah, 119 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: it's like seventh any stretch, that's what they play. Um, 120 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: you're here for a hundred sixty two day or games. 121 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, nice, let's get today thinning. Albert 122 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: von Albert von Tilser wrote many hit songs. Let me 123 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: tell you something, I'm a big Von Tills in your head. 124 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Here's some more of his hits. 125 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: You're ready for this, Put on your slippers and fill 126 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: your pipe. You're not going bye by tonight. That's the 127 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Eric von tilt That was a von Tilser song. Um, 128 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: he's got something, He's got. Here's here's another one of 129 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: his hits, Oh how she could yackie hackey wicki wacky. 130 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: This is a family show. See here's here's another one 131 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: of his hits, My cuties due at two to two, 132 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: so at one. If that's a m or p M, 133 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: his cutis do at um. Another one of his hits 134 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: is wait Till You get them up in the air Boys. 135 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: It's some interesting one. But take Me Out of the 136 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: Ball Game was listed a number eight on the list 137 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: of songs of the Century. Mm hmm, so Christ, next 138 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: time you see me, nat take me out the ball game. 139 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: It's just you know, I'll sing some volgarty you're wishing 140 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: it was the what was it yuck any whacky? I 141 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: thought that I was like I was. I was hoping 142 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: that they would play Oh how she could yucky hacky 143 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: wicky wacky boo. But there's some people in this room 144 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: for who take me out to the ball game tugs 145 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: on the heart strings a bit. Definitely did for me. Hey, 146 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you, let me ask you 147 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: another question. They we're gonna we gotta cover off off 148 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: some stuff. But you so with the whole thing, do 149 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: you ever feel like it's a it's a it's a um. 150 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: It's like a slap in the face of a deer 151 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: hunter such as yourself, that everything ends on November seven. Yeah, 152 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: like that you could be like, let's start a week earlier. 153 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: We'll start everything a week earlier, right, and then I'll 154 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: hunt the first week in November for white tails and 155 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, it's it's tough like last year. Um, 156 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: even like you know because our regular season ends October three, um, 157 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: and last year before we went to the playoffs, like 158 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: if we like one, we were not even above five 159 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: hundred at the break, like it was. It was a 160 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: rough season last year, and like we just got hot 161 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: at the right time, like took off. So I had 162 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: like three hunts planned in October that I was just 163 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: like what my buddy Tyler, and like it's just like 164 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: one after other that I was having, like I am 165 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: canceling this one where we made another week cancel this 166 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: and we made another week, canceled that one, made another week. Um, 167 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: all all worth it. Um, it wouldn't change it for 168 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: the world. Throw that out there, so no one's mad 169 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: at me. Um. But now it's um, you know, as 170 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: much as I wanna, you know, be there for opening Day, 171 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: I got the best of both the worlds. It's like 172 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: as soon as baseball ends, I go right and hunting 173 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: seasons in it and I'm in it until it's time 174 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: to go back to baseball. But but for for you 175 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: like to hunt turkeys, I mean you gotta be totally 176 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: boned on turkey hunting, right, Yeah, that's hard. I've never 177 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: never killed an Eastern. I've killed two asiola's all there 178 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: in spring training. Oh so well played, right Yeah. So 179 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: it's like all my buddies back home, give me, give 180 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: me crap from like you didn't even kill an Eastern, 181 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't get the chance, Like, give 182 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: me a break. But uh, when you are when you 183 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: talk about when you when you're you have a hunt 184 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: playing and obviously you want to you know you want 185 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: to win, no doubt, but do you, Um, is there 186 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: ever any part of your head? Right? It's like, man, 187 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: I was really looking forward to going on that trip. 188 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, of course, like you know my passion. 189 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: I absolutely love to hunt white tells um so anytime, 190 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: especially like never been much out of the state growing up. 191 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: So I've I've killed you know, I've killed a deer 192 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: in in um Texas, Nebraska, and Louisiana. And one of 193 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: those trips that I had to cancel was at the 194 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: Griggsbies in Illinois and that was like growing up, that 195 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: was like my dream to go to Illinois. So that 196 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: that one hurt a little bit, um But like I said, 197 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: there's there's always other opportunities, um for you for growing 198 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: up in Mississippi. Was that like the holy landed deer 199 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: hunting was looking at Illinois, Illinois, Kansas, like just going 200 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: up there like that was like my that's my bucket 201 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: list is to go up there and some some big 202 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: white tails. So what, um hold are you right now? 203 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: And then so in in fifteen years like an old 204 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: you're an old ass ball player at fort you right? 205 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like most guys are out thirty five ish. 206 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: So um A side note, as soon as I'm done 207 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: with that, I'm chasing Elk. In September when the bugle in. 208 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: So that's that's another bucket list. So but as but 209 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: there's lead at the end of the tunnel. I mean 210 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: not that the tunnel is that dark, but I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, 211 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: like the way the thing, that's why I don't comply. 212 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: I got plenty of opportunities because you were you were 213 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: on a professional track in your teens, right, so it's 214 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: like you've had a career and you'll still be unless 215 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: you do something horrible to your knees, right, I'll be 216 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: able to just tear it up. Yeah, I'll be able 217 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: to hunt as much as I want. So that's like I 218 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I said, you don't not every day you get to 219 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: go chase the World Series. So I'm taking taking Yeah, 220 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: Like I said, as much as I love hunting, I 221 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't would not trade and change that for the world. Yeah, 222 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: I got it. Okay, Austin's got all he's got limited time, 223 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: he's got stuff going on, he's got a big game tonight. 224 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into some other stuff and then we're 225 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna get back in with him in a little bit. 226 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: All right, here's here's the thing we got to talk about. 227 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: And sometimes something gets so talked about I don't want 228 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: to talk about it because what's there to say? The 229 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: who like the fact that that that I'm trying to 230 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: put this here, Kran Why did you determine that that 231 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: we didn't need to talk about it because everyone's already 232 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: talked about it so exactly as you said, it's true, 233 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: but like, what what more is there to say? Like, 234 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: I just felt like the news would make its rounds 235 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: and all of the various circles that it's flying around, 236 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: and that's it. We didn't need a touch on it. Well, 237 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I want I didn't want to talk about it, but 238 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: now you really did. Then it came to be that 239 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: I realized I had a dissenting view. I had a 240 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: dissenting view from the rest of America and thought we 241 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: and I wanted to talk about it. When you google 242 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: this story, the first results are npr tmz l A times. 243 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: So when you say everyone's talked about it, literally everyone. 244 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: So I don't mean like everyone that I hang out with, 245 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean like America. Yeah, could tell tell tell us 246 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: just to bring people up to speed, Spencer, do you 247 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: mind telling the story? Sure? This? Uh, this sort of 248 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: like entered our radar about a week ago, where screenshots 249 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: started floating around every piece of social media, from Facebook 250 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: to Reddity, Instagram, Twitter, etcetera. Where it was a woman 251 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: who posted on Facebook, uh five photos holding a skinned 252 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: out critter and this is what the Facebook post says. 253 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: It says, So this morning I set out for a 254 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: solo predator hunt for a fall black bear. However, I 255 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: got the opportunity to take another predator wolf pup. Two 256 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: was a great feeling to text my man and say 257 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I just smoked a wolf pup hashtag first wolf, hashtag 258 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: one less predator Montana. Okay, can you back up and 259 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: give it to me a sentence at a time. What 260 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: here's the problem. There's the punctuation, So okay, break it on. 261 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: If that sounded clunky, it's because out of nowhere, break 262 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: it up, break it up in the same fashion and 263 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: hit me with a not a sentence, but a thought 264 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: at a time. Let me try her. So this morning 265 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: I set out for a solo predator hunt for a 266 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: fall black bear. Great, however, great, I've done the uh. 267 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: I've done the same thing. However, I got the opportunity 268 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: to take another predator, wolf pup. Okay, here's where things start. Okay, great, great, 269 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: she lives in a state where she there's in a 270 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: state that has a long wolf season. And I'll point 271 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: out has wolf quotas the states divided into seven regions. 272 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: Each region has its own quota. There's a store, there's 273 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: a total statewide quota. Uh, she has uh the necessary permit. Okay, 274 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: nothing of foul now the pop part um hits it 275 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: on the nose, but so, okay, great, okay, go on. 276 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: And the last thing says two was a great feeling 277 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: to text my man and say I just smoked a 278 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: wolf pup. Okay. So has a great relationship with her boyfriend, 279 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: excited to share details of her life with him. Used 280 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: they use the word choice, the euphemism for killed. But 281 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: let's say she had said got text my man, I 282 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: got my first wolf pop okay. And then that's followed 283 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:26,959 Speaker 1: by hashtag first wolf, hashtag one last predator Montana. Yeah, okay, 284 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that the motivation is one less predator. 285 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: I think the moti you know, the motivation is like 286 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: you want to go hunting, you want to get a wolf. 287 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: I don't know that people really if you wanted to 288 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: wake up any at any given day and do something 289 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: for wildlife, in your state, okay, and in your in 290 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: your soul, your your soul goal is to benefit wildlife 291 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: in your state or benefit ungulates in your state. I 292 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: don't think that hunting predators is the best I don't 293 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: think that hunting wolves is the best use of your time. 294 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: I think it would be that you would volunteer for 295 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: the day for Rocky Mountain Helt Foundation. You'd volunteer for 296 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: the day for mule of your foundation. You would go 297 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: to work that day and take all the money you 298 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: made at work that day and give it to a 299 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: habitat organization. It's similar to I think it's similar like 300 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: let's say you wanted to go shoot prairie dogs, um, 301 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: but then you say like, oh, I'm going to help 302 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: the rancher out. You know. I think it's mostly you 303 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: want to go shoot prairie dogs. If you went to 304 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: a ranch, if you went to a rancher's house and said, 305 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, today I woke up and I just wanted 306 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: to help you out. What what is the thing I 307 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: could do most to help you out. I don't think 308 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna say. I don't think that's what 309 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna say. Stretch a wire he's gonna say like, oh, dude, 310 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm dreading. You know what I don't 311 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: want to do? Throw square bales. Yeah, it's just so 312 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit of a there's a 313 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: little bit of mental masturbation that happens with people where 314 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: you are. You get into where you're there's a thing 315 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: you want to do, and you have perfectly legitimate reasons 316 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: to do it, but you dress it up as though 317 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: it's like somewhat altruistic. You know. Altruistic would be that 318 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: you went that you had the day off, went to 319 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: your boss and says, I want to work today, I 320 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: want to do over time today, whatever. And then I'm 321 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: just gonna and I'm gonna take the entire pay for 322 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: today and and donate it to a wildlife habitat organization 323 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: that would you know. So there it's a little fishy there. 324 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: I mean, this story gets a lot more fishy, but 325 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: up to this point, I'm just laying out like what, Okay, 326 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the parts. Now, here's the plot so far. Maybe a 327 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: little bit of men my masturbation, but not offensive. Here's 328 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: here's the plot. Twist and wide. You know, TMZ and 329 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: NPR are talking about this the five photos she posted 330 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: are not with a wolf with a husky. Yeah, that's 331 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: where husky. That's where we enter into a problem. A 332 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: dead husky and a a skinned out husky. She rugged 333 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: it out. Yes, Now, if it was a lab her, 334 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: a beagle, her, a hound, I would be more inclined 335 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: to be like, what the right, more inclined. You're you're 336 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: already given her too much credit. Listen, it's not as 337 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: I understand. As I understand that she was way back 338 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: in the mountains and someone had dumped a pack, so 339 00:21:55,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: to speak, someone had dumped a pack of like sled dogs, right, 340 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: had dumped a pack of sleddogs out in the middle 341 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: of nowhere just to get just to get rid of 342 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: them and dump them. So that that Facebook post was 343 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and it had done its thing. It was 344 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: all over by Sunday, and and I feel like we're 345 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: all getting texts of it like is this real? This 346 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 1: is a joke, right, and things like that. I think 347 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: on Mondays when the Sheriff's office for Flathead County put 348 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: out a statement, that's when they gave those extra details 349 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: that a pack of dogs were dumped in the wilderness. 350 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: And I think up until that point, eleven of those 351 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: dogs had been recovered, and it was like, what nineteen 352 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: or something that got dumbed. Well, a different Facebook post 353 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: from this woman who shot the husky, she said that 354 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: there were nineteen dogs that were dropped off and that 355 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: she was eleven miles in the back country. So people 356 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: had already kind of like formed their opinions by this point, 357 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: by by like the three days two days later. You 358 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: know when the sheriff's office has a statement, I think 359 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: that you could. You know when you go to get 360 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: if you go to bear hunting the state that has 361 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: black bears and grizzlies in the lower forty eight, your 362 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: state agency is probably gonna make you go do a 363 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: thing where you have to look at pictures of You 364 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: have to look at pictures of bears in various contexts 365 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: and pass the test about how well you can distinguish 366 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: a black bear from a grizzly. It is not an 367 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: easy test. I'm not saying, I'm not even kind of 368 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: saying it's the same thing as the husky, no wolf, 369 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: but placed in a certain context where the last thing 370 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: on your mind is one thing, I think that it 371 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: would be let me put out, Let let me tell 372 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 1: you a story years ago. We went down when I 373 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: was in school, me and some me and my and uh. 374 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: When I when I was in school in Montana. My 375 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: brother Danny was in school at Auburn. We went down 376 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: to hunt the Tuskegee National Forest, Okay, and it was 377 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: a great time. We just hunted public land, had really 378 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: no idea what we're doing. Everybody got a buck. I 379 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: got a buck. Who's a spike that was so small 380 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: we lax. I cut it off with a hacks on. 381 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: I was able to carry its rack around in my 382 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: shirt pocket. Caught a real thin little slice. You still 383 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: have that rack? No, I wish I did. Man. I 384 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: literally went home with that rack in my shirt pocket. 385 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: But it was a legal box either way. I remember 386 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: one point when I was walking down this road through 387 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: Tuskee National Forests and look down a cut line and 388 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: hit the deck because there's a deer. But once I 389 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: looked through my skulle, it was some damn big dog. 390 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: But if I was walking down a street or a 391 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: sidewalk through a neighborhood and I saw an object step 392 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: into a cut line, I wouldn't have thought or step 393 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: into an alley. I wouldn't have thought there's a deer. Yeah, 394 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: you think there's because the context of where you're at 395 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: influences what you see. And according to this woman, she 396 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: was eleven miles in the back country, which I don't know. 397 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: Maybe she might have been ten miles up a logging road. 398 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: And Hi, I don't really know what that means. I 399 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: I absolutely understand it. But I think one thing we 400 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: should talk about is that there is no like So 401 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: this was a domesticated dog who was dumped into the 402 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: woods and she rugged it out. Well, here's the thing, 403 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: what do you There's no way this this dog probably 404 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: saw human for the first time, and however and was 405 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: probably probably ran up super friendly, like oh my god, 406 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been says it ran up in 407 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: in like growling and snarling. I've been out Kyle hunting 408 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: before and called in dogs with a collar on. But 409 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: when they hear that kyo fight sound plan, they come 410 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: running in ready to you know, funck something up. They're 411 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: ready to fight. And I mean I have like personal 412 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: called in a husky while Kyle hunting, and in that 413 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: context I can depth oh yeah yeah with a collar on, 414 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I called it in a neighbors German shepherd. 415 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: One time. It can happen. Definitely. I didn't shoot it. No, 416 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: I did not shoot it. I am not in any way. 417 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm not in anyway. I'm not in any ways saying 418 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: it could have happened to anyone. I don't think it 419 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: could have happened anyone. I just think that the criticism 420 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: um is a little carried away, and I think that 421 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: it's not. It doesn't strike me as like this horrible 422 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as this horribly negligent, egregious thing. It 423 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: was like it was a mistake, but it wasn't if 424 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: it was a lab, like I said, if it was 425 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: a lab or a beagle, you'd be what. But there 426 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: are black wolves, there are white wolves, there are mixed 427 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: color wolves. We recently saw a pack of hunt in Alaska. 428 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: We saw a pack of fourteen, all black wolves. I 429 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: didn't know that could happen. Dang, fourteen solid black wolves. 430 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: And when you're looking at him from a long ways 431 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: way through a spot and scope, you would be like, 432 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: holy sh it, there's a bunch of black dogs running 433 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: along because they're just black. M So it just it 434 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: doesn't strike me. It just doesn't strike me as insane. 435 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: As it's striking everybody else. And I think there's on 436 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: people's behalf. There's like a shipload of moral posturing. And 437 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: I think the most of the people that are most 438 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: mad would have been just as mad if it had 439 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: been a wolf. And somehow, weirdly, when a woman does something, 440 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: it pisces people off more than when a guy does it. 441 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: That's true. And even though she's not gonna face any 442 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: legal trouble, this is gonna follow her around for the 443 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: rest of her life because it if a woman does something, 444 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: there's something about it that just makes even women hate 445 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: him more. You know, women, men, all right, they're not 446 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: given because it's like because she did this awful thing 447 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: and tried, thought she killed the wolf, try to kill 448 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: a wolf, it was a dog, It's like they're gonna 449 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: pile onto her harder. Yeah. I think it's the sheer, 450 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: just brazen confidence of that Facebook post to that's that's 451 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: adding a lot of feel and my but my context 452 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: there would be then that it is a genuine mistake, right, 453 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: that it's just an individual made a mistake. Yeah, And 454 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: a lot of people have like this disneyfication of like 455 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: what a wolf would look like, right, don't. I don't 456 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: think people even always really know exactly what they look at. 457 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: The people that are piste would have been pissed if 458 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: it was a wolf. Yeah, totally. The news coverage you 459 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: see of this, it always this is now like a 460 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: launching pad to talk about like the delisting wolves and 461 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: things like that. You see that in all these new 462 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: sources that are covering this story. It becomes it becomes 463 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: not that a woman shot at husky. It talks about 464 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: like the protection of wolves in the Rocky Mountains. It's 465 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: a referendum. It becomes a referendum on whether it's the state, 466 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: uh should be love to manage the resource. Yeah, so 467 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: it's like we shouldn't have wolves delisted because otherwise huskies 468 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: are getting shot. Husky get shot. We need to add 469 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: some more clear need to add some more clarity to 470 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: the story. Though. So she had posted that like on 471 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: the weekend, right, and the sheriff's office releases the statement 472 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: a few days later. Um, and then she puts a 473 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: follow up post on Facebook, and you had talked about 474 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: how she had shot it because it was like barking 475 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: at her or whatever. Here's what her post says, This 476 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: is just part of it, It says I would still 477 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: have shot it because it was aggressive and coming directly 478 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: for me. So that that was part of her story 479 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: that came out later. Uh, that the husky you know, 480 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: was posturing as though I was going to attack her. Hm, 481 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean I can't buy that that. I don't have 482 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: problem with that. It's like dogs. We call it burger barking, 483 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: like coyotes do it. Dogs do it when they first 484 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: see a stranger. Hell, my dog does it through the 485 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: window of the truck, like she see someone walking in 486 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: the dark. Right, hackles go up. It's like it's yourself. 487 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: It's a convenient it's a convenient detail. I don't know. 488 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. I could see why 489 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: someone in this situation would feel the need to um 490 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: try to get themselves out of the death threats and 491 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: right like I can see why someone under great dear 492 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: rest might stretch the truth. But in and of itself, 493 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: that is not an outrageous claim. No, it's not. If 494 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: someone told me. If if if my wife was on 495 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: a hike with the kids and she came back and said, 496 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: we were way up so such and such place, and 497 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: some damn dog comes out of nowhere, barking and growling 498 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: at us. What I'd be like, you lie in right now. 499 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, that's like I can imagine that happened. 500 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of places that I've hunted in 501 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: South Dakota, Wyoming, it's like you have a random straight 502 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: dog come through your decoy spread while you're out there, 503 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's that's not anybody's pet, that's 504 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: just a dog out roman doing its thing. We were 505 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: turkey hunting in a in a remote area of Montana, 506 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean as remote as you can getting hunting. Turkey 507 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: hunting remote area Montagna. At one point I looked out 508 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: across this large patch of open ground and I'm like, 509 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: what in the world is that. I couldn't tell what 510 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: was going on. As we got closer to investigated, it 511 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: was a domestic dog dragging a deer. Domestic dog dragging 512 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: a dead deer through the fields. Yep, very similar story. 513 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Me and you remember Danny Morrison. Oh yeah, Um, me 514 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: and Danny were were turkey hunting in South Dakota and uh, 515 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: Danny was trying to get on this one gobbler and 516 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: then this thing just disappeared. A scene wasn't out in 517 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: the field anymore. And uh he pops up over this 518 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: little ridge to get a glimpse. Put byos up and 519 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: there's this stray dog that had killed this turkey, just 520 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: out in an open field. Yeah, eating on a turkey 521 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: out in the middle of grass pasture. You know. Here's 522 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: another quote from her follow up Facebook post. It's hiss. 523 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: My safety was top priority. This animal was growling, howling 524 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: and coming at me like he was going to eat me. Okay, 525 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never met the individual. I don't 526 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: know that that's true, but that is not outrageous. Yeah, 527 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: and even if it's not true, like you say, someone 528 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: told an outrageous lie, that might be a lie. It 529 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: was not an outrageous lie. Well, I mean either way, 530 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: Like you can see how she's just trying to hit 531 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: completely completely understanding. It's just the yeah, and you've you've 532 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: you've kind of pulled me over to the other side 533 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: to but it's just the Facebook that the complete kind 534 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: of her first post is like I smoked. I smoked 535 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: this wolf. I'm gonna tell my husband. And the next 536 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: post is like it was growling and snarling and charging 537 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: at me. I had no other choice. You know, it's 538 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: just kind of it's it's convenient. She's under tremendous dear 539 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: rest um. And again just we're not summed up yet 540 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: because I wanted we we need to hear the her 541 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: boyfriend to say. And and here I respect the um. 542 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: You know you know that Tammy want to stand by 543 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: your man. This is like stand by your woman, woman, woman. 544 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: Now you're you're referring to a follow up Facebook post 545 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: by the husband, and in that face post, one of 546 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: the details that he says is that she has not 547 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: been filed for any charges. Well you read the whole 548 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: she will not be filed for any charges, but the 549 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: sheriff's office UM says that they are investigating the thing. 550 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: She's not gonna get in trouble. She shouldn't, man like. 551 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: There were other claims which I don't know how people 552 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: came upon these that she addressed in the Facebook post 553 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: that she didn't have a wolf tag. She did have 554 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: a wolf tag. She says she has a wolf tag, 555 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: but I don't see anything in the sheriff's office statement 556 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: saying that she did. It just says it's under no 557 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 1: I think it was clarified that she had a wolf 558 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: taga and it kind of doesn't matter. A lot of 559 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: this stuff is this A lot of it's like hate 560 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: the game, not the player. Do you know what I'm saying? 561 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: People are mad because they would have been mad if 562 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: she shot the damn wolf. Uh. Phil, you know that 563 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: you have a little machine that bleeps out obscenities. You're 564 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: gonna need to get a new one because the one 565 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: you've gotten out is going to be worn out. It's 566 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: gonna be worn out. But I want you to very carefully. 567 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: Spencer's gonna read it, and I want you to very 568 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: carefully bleep the Incenti's out. And I think this will 569 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: make a phenomenal T shirt. This is gonna make me 570 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: blush and and like our last uh email T shirt, 571 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: this one lacks punctuation. But don't worry about because Phil 572 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: is gonna bleep it all out. No one will know 573 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: what it was that you said. That's right. Yeah, it's 574 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: just gonna sound like a mad lib when we're done, 575 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: where it's like insert. If we do a T shirt, 576 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can about check copyright maybe 577 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: the individual, but it would be with all the like 578 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: dollar signs and asterix and stuff for when you do 579 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot like the last. But here's an individual whose 580 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: girlfriend is getting death threats and here's his response. Yeah, 581 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't even fault them for this. We're talking about 582 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: making a template that other people could use this for ready. Yeah, 583 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: any you mother talk all that you cause not one 584 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: of you mothers are tough enough to act on any 585 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: of your bullshit. Said, If so, come to my place 586 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: and I'll beat your myself. Yeah, my girlfriend was out 587 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: hunting and shot a dog that was dumped out in 588 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: the woods. No charges have been filed or will be 589 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: filed because no laws were broke. It was a dear 590 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: chasing feral dog on the wrong place at the wrong time. 591 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to be a bunch of cry 592 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: baby sheep, keep going, because we really don't give two 593 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: fings about what's going on or what's being said. Mistakes happened, 594 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: big deal, you cry baby motherfuls. And for any other 595 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: hunters who want to talk saying it looks bad, well 596 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: it does, you stupid mother. But mistakes happened. So, like 597 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: I said, any you want to act on any of 598 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: these threats and bullshit, come up, because I got one 599 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: for you. Sure, I love I totally understand. I don't understand. Uh. 600 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: My favorite part is, like you all you understand it 601 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: looks bad, Well, yeah, it does. Owning their ship and 602 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: in their intention was not to do what ended up 603 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: being done. Strip away the strip away the passion, strip 604 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: away the passion? What what? What is what is left 605 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: when you strip away the passion? Well, we was my 606 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: girlfriend made a mistake. She shot a dog. It was 607 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: a dog out in the wild. It was a deer 608 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: eating dog. It was in the wrong place at the 609 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: wrong time. Sure, it looks bad. Mistakes happen, and no 610 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: laws are broken. That it's like, okay, strip away the passion. 611 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: And it's like you just aren't dealing with people who 612 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: are that. It's not like you're dealing with irrational people. 613 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: It was a mistake. This sounds kind of irrational because 614 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: it's infused, you know about infused with passion. Shawn's Duck 615 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: report minutes on that trying to move on. You are 616 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: right in that you are one of the only people 617 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: I've seen take this stance on the internet, whether they're 618 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: in the hunting community or not. That uh this was kosher. No, no, no, 619 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: I want you to now, I want you to do this. 620 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what my stance is, 621 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: because I want to make sure you're paying attention to 622 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, I'm not being fair your stances 623 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 1: at she made a mistake and that it it could 624 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: happen to folks, and that that I think that much 625 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: of the anger is coming from people who have a 626 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: problem with something put in place by the state where 627 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 1: she lives, and they're deflecting that honor in in a 628 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: big way. You know, earlier I was saying is because 629 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a girl. But if it was a dude to 630 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: be bad, I take that back. I take that part back. 631 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,240 Speaker 1: They'd be pissed at a dude. Oh yeah, were you saying? 632 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm saying that like people kind of what 633 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: a woman does, like a woman goes to Africa and 634 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 1: get it's almost a little it's like, in a way, 635 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: it's a people experience it different. It's that whole Kendall Jones. 636 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: It's like because they're just like, you know, it's just 637 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: people feel it different. I agree it takes on like 638 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: a sexual that the hatred takes on like a sexual 639 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: violence kind of think in celt creeping in there a 640 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: little bit. I think if it were a dude, they 641 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: probably would have Well, I don't know how do I 642 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: quantify or qualify like worse, but I think the follow 643 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: up like a rabid dog and her dog was barking 644 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: or I felt intimidated, I was, you know, protecting myself. 645 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: I feel like something about that would not go over 646 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: as much if it were dude. Oh yeah, you're right, 647 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: there's something. There's something about that. Dude would have had 648 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: a harder time. A dude would have had a harder 649 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: time going down that path. Something you can't argue with, though, 650 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: is that it appears as though she did a very 651 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: good job of skinning out this husky. Great job, what's great? 652 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: Like it would have made for a very nice rug 653 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: if I I mean, I would get it, if if if, 654 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if John Hayes would do it, but 655 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: I would put the bill to have it done and 656 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: just have to be like, hey, remember that whole deal. 657 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: Well there's that, and I don't think it's going to happen. 658 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: But how many people death threat, how many death I 659 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 1: think you're underestimating how passionate dog would I would if 660 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: I could get it, no matter what I could get it, 661 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: I would put it in the I would get it rugged. 662 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: I would get it rugged, and I would sell in 663 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: the auction house of oodities. No, that's a that's a sure. 664 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: I think I think conservation it would fetch a generous bid. 665 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: And let's see if those folks would uh, you know, 666 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that auction house of Oddity's item. Instead 667 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: of that money going to the land Access Initiative of 668 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: our own, I would take the money from that bid 669 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: and give that money to the meal of your foundation. 670 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: And I would say in the end, in the end, 671 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: it was good for dear. I think this won't be 672 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: the last update we have on this story. And here's why. 673 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: The Sheriff's has said that they recovered eleven of the 674 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: dogs and they are currently at the animal shelter, but 675 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: they're not up for adoption at this time. What if 676 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: we find out in like a week that, like, yeah, 677 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: come get yourself an adult husky. They're super friendly, great 678 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: family dogs. Uh. We feel very good about their prospects 679 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,760 Speaker 1: of of going to a home. I am not saying 680 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: that it could have had into anybody. I am saying 681 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: that when you strip the parts out, it's not as insane, 682 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: it's not as agregious as it's being portrayed fair. And 683 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: also people just like stop with the death threats, Like 684 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: just stop, like the threat of violence over a dog 685 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: in that's just the internet. Well recently we had the guy. 686 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: There's been three guys that have brought lamas to check 687 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: stations thinking they had cow elk Okay? Did they all 688 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: get death threats? They missed they misstook an animal. There 689 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: was a guy in Colorado shot someone's mule. Thought he 690 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: shot of cow. Should they be put to death? They 691 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: shot something thinking it was something that wasn't ye. People 692 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: just need to do they need to die. I mean, 693 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: stop it, no, no, just like some people take that 694 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: real serious. I don't think the hunter would want I 695 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: don't think the Hunter would want to do this at all. 696 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: But if she, if she would come, if she came 697 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: on the show, I would love to have her on 698 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: the show. How about her husband boyfriend I only did 699 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,959 Speaker 1: I only didn't want to do it, but they wanted 700 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: to come and tell the story. It would be uh. 701 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: I would love to have him on the show. I 702 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: bet they come out of this with a renewed fervor 703 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: in their relationships. Seems like they have a good relationship passionate. Well, listen, 704 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: she was excited to share it. She was like, again, 705 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: let's say it had been wolf. She was excited to share. 706 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: He's defensive of her. It's not like he didn't cut 707 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: and run. No, yeah, no, he's standing binder. Before the 708 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: show and the Dark Report got a a couple announcements 709 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: to make now at the meat eater dot com. We 710 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: have a big giant whitetail week running from October nine 711 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: to six, daring that for most of it. 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When I called John Devney from 730 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: Delta Waterfowl asking for an interview on this subject, his 731 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: exact answer was, so, you want to write an article 732 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: on the most difficult waterfowl issue in the Western hemisphere, 733 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: So to which you said, yes, I do, and I 734 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: I've been off a lot here. It's taken me quite 735 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: a bit of time to uh right this article right, 736 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: this duck report on this and the subject is the 737 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: Klamath Basin in the Oregon California border. Um. For a 738 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: little context, the Lamath Bason is like Upper Klamath Klamath Lake, 739 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: then Lower Klamath Refuge and Tuley Lake Refuge that drains 740 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: down the Klamath River. UM. The Lower Klamath Refuge was 741 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: Teddy Roosevelt's first waterfowl refuge, and that really surprises me 742 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 1: that he got to that before he got to oh, yeah, 743 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: because the waterfowl refuge might be different. But you know, 744 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: like that real urgency around the shore birds they were 745 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 1: shooting for the plintary trade. Yeah, I would have thought 746 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: that would have been one of his first things when 747 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,799 Speaker 1: we were trying to save all the e grits and stuff, yeah, 748 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: from commercial slaughter. Well, and there's so much, right, there's 749 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: so much waterfowl habitat and like the East and the South. 750 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: Even think about chess Peak Bay, Like during his time, 751 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: Chesspeak Bay is getting just raped in pillage for better 752 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: lack of words, and and he goes and picks the 753 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: Klamath all the way over on the west coast. But uh, 754 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 1: the Lower Klamath and Tuly Lake refugees at their week 755 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: during the late nineteen fifties, we're holding four to five 756 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 1: million water birds. Two hundred thousand would migrate to the 757 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: refuge to molt in the summer. Um of all Pacific 758 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,120 Speaker 1: Flyway water birds would stage here. It had more pintails 759 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 1: in just the Klamath Basin then occurred continentally, like this 760 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: place is one of the most vital as as Dr 761 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 1: Chris Nikolai from Delta water Fowl put it. He says, 762 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: this is the second most important refuge system in in 763 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: the entire refuge system, Number one, Yukon Delta. Oh yeah, 764 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be some stuff around the gulf. Yeah, 765 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: yep um. And so all that is to say the 766 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: refuge is now bone dry, I mean, not a drop 767 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: of water in the whole thing. And they've canceled the 768 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 1: hunting season for it, uh, which is no surprise because 769 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: there's no ducks there anyway. And if you go down 770 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: here to the next kind of page, you'll see a 771 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: picture from Brian Huber. He's a waterfowl biologist out there 772 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: in California, and uh, the pictures are pretty grim and 773 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: unfortunate because it's just a whole beautiful oasis just cracked, 774 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: dirt and dry. Yeah, cracked, baked, click rock hard, cracked up, 775 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: dried mud man. Yeah, and a lot of schools. You know, 776 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,720 Speaker 1: it's important to note, like we are all very aware 777 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: of the drought that's just persisted across California and Oregon 778 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 1: and made you know, wetlands having a real hard time 779 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:57,280 Speaker 1: in the West. Anyway, California just shut down like three 780 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 1: more refugees hunting seasons in the Central valley. But um, 781 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: there's more to the story with Klamath. And I'll try 782 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: to not get too deep into the weeds here because 783 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: it's a huge thing to tackle. But one of the 784 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: biggest problems that Klamaths faced specifically is uh. According to 785 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 1: Ron Cole, the former manager of the Klamath Basin the complex, 786 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: the refuge complex, he really just has a problem with 787 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: what the E. S A Has done with the water. Um, 788 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: they discovered two suckers there, the the lost River sucker 789 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: and the short nose sucker in the complex there. That 790 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: now with the E. S A, a ton of the 791 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: water allocation from the Bureau of Reclamation project there has 792 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: gone to recovering these two suckers as well as of 793 00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: course the threatened Southern Oregon Northern California still co host 794 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: s and salmon and uh, you know, the E. S 795 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: A has so much power right that like it kind 796 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,439 Speaker 1: of trump it's the trump card that the water all 797 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 1: goes to recovering these these species. And in the early 798 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: two thousands, two thousand six, ron Cole had kind of 799 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: helped bring all the partners to the table, all the 800 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: stakeholders so to speak, California or again a bunch of 801 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: Indian tribes, four counties, individual farmers, companies, irrigation districts, seven 802 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: n g O s. He kind of got them all 803 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: on one agreement, that was the Klamath Basin Restoration Agreement, 804 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: and they all they all signed on with it, and 805 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: Congress never got it past. It just kind of went 806 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: to the hill to die, so to speak. And so 807 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 1: now everyone's kind of fragmented, not all on the same 808 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: page anymore, and not really getting along like they had before. 809 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the refuge, specifically Lower Klamathan Tuley 810 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,959 Speaker 1: Lake don't have a real water right. They have one 811 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: that's for agricultural use for thirty five acre feet, and 812 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 1: the Fish and Wildlife Service hasn't like they haven't kind 813 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: of demanded that water from the Bureau Reclamation. They have 814 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: exercised that water right. And so what you have now 815 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: is one of the most vital waterfowl habitats in the 816 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: country going bone dry and really no obvious way out 817 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: in the short term. Um, you know, it's it's it's sad, 818 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: it's sickening. Uh. You know, Ron Cole predicted it when 819 00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: they didn't get the restoration agreement past, the refuge would 820 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: go dry eight out of ten years, and and you 821 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: just start sterilizing soil right like you're you're baking what's 822 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:15,200 Speaker 1: wetland soil. You're you're pretty much cooking organic material. And 823 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: you know, they only had a hundred and twenty nesting 824 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: ducks on this whole place this year. Um hmm. It's 825 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,840 Speaker 1: a sad deal. And you know, hopefully, hopefully kind of 826 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: it wakes some people up to the water situation in 827 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: the West as a whole, and like kind of the 828 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: importance of some nuance here. I don't think anyone really 829 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: has um like the end, he'll be all answer, But 830 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, Ron called Ron Cole put it really interestingly 831 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: to me. He said, the Pacific Flyway is like a 832 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: three legged stool. You have the Klamath Basin, you have 833 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: the Central Valley in California, and you have the Bear 834 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: River Watershed right Salt Lake in Utah, and those three um, 835 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: those three places are kind of what props up and 836 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 1: holds up the Pacific Flyways ability to have ducks. And 837 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 1: Central Valley in California is that like, you know, wetland 838 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: loss and hardly any water salt lake is going dry. 839 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:27,359 Speaker 1: One's bone dry dry. And then Salt Lake is like 840 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's predicting five years type thing, and so yeah, 841 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: you you kind of just have this pervasive problem that 842 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:43,399 Speaker 1: hopefully I hope it sucks that it has to get 843 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: this bad for people to wake up to it, but 844 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,439 Speaker 1: you hope it's actually at this point like a wake 845 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 1: up call. We got to do something with. I was 846 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: gonna ask an ignorant question about like, well, they're birds, 847 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 1: like can they not like fly to some other habitat 848 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,800 Speaker 1: in the area, But it sounds like all the habitat 849 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: has gone some and evoly will but you're not gonna 850 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: right it's it's yeah, for sure in the short term, right, 851 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: they can go to other places. The problem is just 852 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: a when you look landscape wide and when you have 853 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: a net habitat loss right, eventually a carrying capacity of 854 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: the flyway just continues to decrease and you have um, 855 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: you know of all of California nesting mallards. California used 856 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: to nest a lot of mallards in the Central Valley 857 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 1: of those would all fly to the Klamath for their 858 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: summer molt. And now it's like they're gonna fly there 859 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 1: and find what bear dirt. Um some will figure something out, 860 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 1: but you'll have just a massive net loss birds. Man. Yeah, 861 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: And I think one of the interesting questions that brings 862 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: up is, you know, there's no such thing as a 863 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 1: free lunch, right how how far can you take it 864 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: when you are pushing water down a stream for the 865 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: salmon to keep the water cooler before they eventually take 866 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: out these klamath damns um as they allocate you know, 867 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,480 Speaker 1: acre feet of water for these um suckers, as they 868 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: allocate water the little water they do have to these 869 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: other things, like how far do you pursue you know, 870 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: they the e s a right before before it's like 871 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: at the expense of everything else there. Yeah, you have 872 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,240 Speaker 1: some conservation dependent species they're hanging on by a thread, 873 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: and someone might ask, is it worth losing of our 874 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 1: ducks to save a conservation dependent species that is almost 875 00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: certainly doomed anyway? Yeah, and you know the extinctions forever man. Yeah, 876 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: it's it's well, yeah, there's no I'm not saying that 877 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 1: like I have that. It's a tough one because you 878 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: could also be like we you know, maybe we'll get 879 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,240 Speaker 1: some great wet years and it won't be an issue anymore. 880 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 1: But that's not what climate models are showing. No, climate 881 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:23,160 Speaker 1: models are showing that this is the new norm. Yeah, yeah, totally. 882 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: And you just have you know, you have more development, 883 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: you have more egg like, you have so many more 884 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: things demanding water. Is the time of less water. I 885 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,520 Speaker 1: can see someone saying, like, is there a Sophie's choice 886 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: do remain here? That you'd say, um, that you'd say 887 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 1: that that it's too bad. It's heartbreaking. But some of 888 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: these things are gonna some of these things that are 889 00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have to step aside to make way for 890 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 1: the longevity of things that have a greater a greater 891 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: capacity to hang on. Right, Yeah, I mean the Klamath 892 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: Basin used to be four hundred thousand acres of wetland 893 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 1: habitat and then it's now like it's zero. Right, It's 894 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: things can this isn't gonna be but things can turn 895 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: with with with impounded water, with watersheds, things can turn 896 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: around so fast. But this is this is turning into 897 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: a long, long issue. Yeah, it's not like a freakish year. 898 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: It's the new norm. Yep. Especially in the West. You 899 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: know there's oh god, what was that. It's like Malika 900 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: Luka there's a lake that sits right about Pyramid Lake. Um, 901 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,919 Speaker 1: that's like Applia, right over the hill from Pyramid Lake. 902 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,200 Speaker 1: That was the Dr. Chris nick I explained this to me. 903 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,840 Speaker 1: It was our first. It has the distinction of being 904 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: our first National Wildlife refuge to be sold because it 905 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: just went dry and was never gonna have water again. 906 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: Hasn't had a duck on it in eighty years. You know. Yeah, 907 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,919 Speaker 1: it's just like it's a dry playa and put something else. Yeah, 908 00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: they sold it off man turned it into BLM ground 909 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 1: and you know that's it sucks to say, but that's 910 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: where you see some of these other things going. Unless 911 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: I guess hopefully, Um, if anything, there's kind of a 912 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: there's kind of new spirit of the the actual current 913 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: refuge manager John Brandenburg. He he said to me, he said, 914 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 1: I have hope that this is what brings everyone back 915 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: to the table and gets everyone do like agree, Hey, 916 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: we need clean water going down the river for the salmon. 917 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: How do you get clean water? You put it through 918 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,360 Speaker 1: a wetland. Right. Um, you know, we need a little 919 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: bit more equity because what we're doing is not working. 920 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 1: And you know he he also said, how beautiful would 921 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: it be right too to have like Teddy Roosevelt's first 922 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: waterfowl refuge be kind of the pivotal moment of wetlands 923 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: in the West, Like we find a way to get 924 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: through this and and create a solution together, and our 925 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: generation be like the ones that like save the Klamath 926 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: for the long haul. Yeah, should be cool, but it's 927 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 1: interesting or deal. You know, Pacific flyways got like the 928 00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: most liberal limits. They can shoot seven ducks of person 929 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 1: out there. They have the longest days. Um, but that's 930 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: not gonna last long. You keep losing all your wetlands 931 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: and all your water. You waterfowl hunter in the aerials 932 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:06,440 Speaker 1: step up, Yeah, totally. The part of the problem that 933 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,880 Speaker 1: happened with the different sucker species is you didn't have 934 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: a huge advocacy advocacy group arguing on their behalf the 935 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,479 Speaker 1: whole time. Yeah, you know, no one was knowing, people 936 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: weren't watching, people weren't yelling, right, And it winds up 937 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: in a situation where it becomes a federal e s 938 01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: a issue and hunters, you know, hunters and angers get 939 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: criticized for being overly focused on the stuff there, being 940 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: overly focused on trying to conserve the resources that they 941 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: like to go after. It's like, least someone's doing it. Yeah, 942 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, you just because you want to 943 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: shoot him. It's like, well, first, it's more complicated than that. 944 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: And second, wouldn't it be great if every species had 945 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: an advocacy group like this? Yeah, most people don't advocate 946 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: on behalf of any species. So to to knock on 947 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: hunters for advocating on behalf of the ones they like, 948 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 1: it's like, great, buddy, go advocate on behalf of the 949 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 1: ones you like. Yeah, or have you never done that? Right? Yeah? 950 01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,560 Speaker 1: And now you have? Right, you have even birders like 951 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: piste Off in the Pacific Flyway because all of a sudden, 952 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: what they, you know, kind of had they were able 953 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: to kind of take for granted, right, was all these 954 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: beautiful refuges that they could go bird at. Now all 955 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden they can't. Uh. An interesting thing about 956 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: the the advocacy thing, you know, obviously I have a 957 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: bias of wetlands, right, Like, there's a reason I love 958 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: wetlands involving duck hunting. But I think one of the 959 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: things here is you can't ever deny the importance of 960 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 1: a wetland on a landscape. I mean, they are just there, 961 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: just essential for everything. And you know, at the same 962 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 1: time that the salmon down river are facing like slow 963 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: warm water, dirty water, and they've got these like parasite 964 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: issues in this salmon population, and they're pushed more water 965 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: down river to try to speed up the water and 966 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: make the water cooler. At the same time, they're like 967 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 1: neglecting the most easy obvious filter for that water, which 968 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: is the wetlands. But hopefully, hopefully something changes. You know, 969 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: there's at least a lot of attention on it now. Ye, 970 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: So if you want to find out more and look 971 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: at some pictures and stuff, well the Clamath basin and 972 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: the whole situation with Pacific Flyway waterfoule, will check out 973 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Shawn's big article at the meater dot com. What are 974 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,439 Speaker 1: you gonna call it? Ah, yeah, I'm not I don't 975 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 1: know the exact title yet, but involved the clam It's 976 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: there right now. Go to the meater dot com and 977 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: you'll find Shawn's article. And we got Austin Riley back 978 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: with us here, so we're gonna get into We're gonna 979 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into talking about him now. Oh so, hey, 980 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: this this. This is an interesting thing. I mean, this 981 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: has just happened. This will help get us into this 982 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 1: will help get us into sports talk. So we've covered 983 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 1: if you listen to the show, you've become somewhat of 984 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: a subject matter at brewn walleye tournaments because of our 985 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 1: very own Seth and Chester engaging in the Montana Walleye Tour. 986 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: So we've learned all about walleye tours and bags and 987 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: all that. Well, yesterday I get a text Seth yesterday. 988 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 1: Sets not with us right now, but Seth yesterday text 989 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: me a YouTube video titled Walleye Cheaters Busted. We got 990 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: weights and fish. So this is a walleye tournament in Cleveland, Ohio, 991 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: and two anglers, Jake Running and Chase Comiskey, weighed in 992 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: a five fish limit that went just over thirty three pounds. 993 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: This is yesterday, so it says like this is posted 994 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: thirteen hours ago. After being announced winners and also Team 995 01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: of the Year. The tournament master, like the tournament director, 996 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: cut open their fish found eight pounds of lead sinkers 997 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: and five fish. Also, I just talked to set this morning. 998 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:14,200 Speaker 1: They also the fish were stuffed full of walleye flas whoa, 999 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: which is smart because some of these things they had 1000 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: like four hounds lead sinkers in them. So how how 1001 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: no one ever just pell painated? Oh that you I 1002 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: mean like like if you ran your hand over the 1003 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: if you just ran your hand over a fish, you know, 1004 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: it's not normal to find a rock hard? Can you 1005 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: explain how agreed just this is? Like just well yeah, 1006 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,960 Speaker 1: because there's there's like all the stuff they've won. I mean, 1007 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, these guys might win sixteen grand, twenty grand 1008 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: in a tournament and these are just small you know, 1009 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,760 Speaker 1: these are hobby anglers. Well you're inna here how piste 1010 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: off people are when we're gonna play this little bit 1011 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 1: of this YouTube it but uh yeah, I had a 1012 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 1: pair of fish impliers. Walleye plays all kinds of lead weights. 1013 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: And what's weird about this tournament is the fish are dead, 1014 01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, like normalet terments are always working to keep 1015 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 1: the fish alive. On the big tournaments. They put him 1016 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: in these holding tanks, and the holding tanks have earth 1017 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: magnets in them to search for stuff, and they're scanning fish. 1018 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: But Sets says, apparently these guys last year after winning 1019 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: failed to polygraph. But uh failed to polygraph. But the 1020 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: evidence has already been destroyed, so this has been long suspected. 1021 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 1: And then this this video on YouTube's fifteen minutes long, 1022 01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 1: but in it you see all the guys coming away 1023 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: in and Sean, we're gonna play the clip where the 1024 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: discovery happens. But you can hear there's a lot of 1025 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: grumbling where guys are like, but my fish are bigger 1026 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 1: than that. You can hear people be like, understand, there's 1027 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,240 Speaker 1: no way, He's like, let me this, guys, let me 1028 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 1: see those fish. We had fish that were bigger that. 1029 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: There's no way those fish way that. And things quiet down. 1030 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,200 Speaker 1: And then and then here here's what happens in the 1031 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 1: YouTube clip. We got weights and there we go. I 1032 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: love that. Everybody was like cheering after the bat. Oh, 1033 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: it was like brewing man like, people knew, people knew, 1034 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: and people here you were getting on the fact that 1035 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 1: so they they had weights, and they also were stuffing 1036 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,800 Speaker 1: them with walife filets. So apparently at first, like the 1037 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 1: first thing they cut one, he cuts one fish open. 1038 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: You see a guy that's down there fiddling with the fish, 1039 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: and he cuts one open and screams that out, and 1040 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 1: the and the announcer. The announcer cox back basically is 1041 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,000 Speaker 1: because the guy is standing right there like people are 1042 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: braiding the guy. He's sustaining with staring at the ground 1043 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: like he's there's nothing he can do, right, he's so busted. 1044 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: But the first thing on the announce, the first impulse 1045 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 1: the announcer has, he cocks back like he's gonna give 1046 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: that dude the biggest haymaker, but just does an air 1047 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: punch instead. Next I think he was throwing him out 1048 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 1: like a baseball umpire throws out a manager, just just arguing. 1049 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: That's what he did. He threw him. See. I thought 1050 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: he was like, I'm gonna hit him in the face, 1051 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: but then changed his mind to the air punch. That's 1052 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: how you read it. Yeah, Austin, have you been thrown 1053 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 1: out of a game before? Show him the video and 1054 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: then and then he can decide. At one time, rookie ball, Um, 1055 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 1: that's the only time I ever been thrown out. Other 1056 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:39,040 Speaker 1: than that, Um, I drew a line a ball was 1057 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: like it wasn't even close, Like and I was you know, 1058 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: I was eighteen. I was stupid, and and that's like 1059 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: the last thing you can do. And like I tried 1060 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,200 Speaker 1: to like discreetly, like as I might walking across the plate, 1061 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: I kind of like behind my back, I draw a 1062 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: line and I ended up getting tossed, So like like 1063 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: obviously you got the plate and you know ball's gotta 1064 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 1: cross it anyway. It was like in the other pretty 1065 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: much in the other's batter's box. And I was just 1066 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 1: showing the umpire where where it came across. So you 1067 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,480 Speaker 1: were saying, in case, this is actually where it crossed. 1068 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: If you really want to know where it was, where 1069 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, now you decide if this snare punch 1070 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: or if he's getting thrown out like an umpire would. 1071 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: So the announcers on the it's that guy, the guy 1072 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 1: that's cutting here, and he said get the f out 1073 01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 1: of here. So yeah, I think he was like, well, 1074 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to. I was trying to we can 1075 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 1: make it that way for the a TV mini series. Yeah, 1076 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 1: when when you make a Netflix movie out of it'll 1077 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 1: be that. He just he just gives him how many 1078 01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: pounds of fish like coming at the way and where 1079 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: you like look at a small fish and like what 1080 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: it or a small a pile of small fish and 1081 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: you you like, eyeball, what approximately that should weigh and 1082 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 1: then it's like seven times more with these fish that 1083 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 1: are known, so it's not like a three pounds shark. Yeah, 1084 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: But also I was gonna I was gonna ask. Also 1085 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: it's like, was there a big difference in like first instance, 1086 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: like okay, yeah, okay, So it's not like it was 1087 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,599 Speaker 1: just like well maybe not in that one right because 1088 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: of eight pounds of lead, probably a little bit of 1089 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: a game. Well no, because people have to watch the 1090 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,320 Speaker 1: whole thing. It was like there's another team that had 1091 01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 1: overt right, So it was it was definitely they put it. 1092 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Now apparently forty eight states have just like flat out 1093 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 1: rule against cheating in any tournament. So he's got it's 1094 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 1: probably criminal. Oh yeah, very criminal. Most places, there's ane 1095 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,840 Speaker 1: that talks about how the two angler team had won 1096 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars and victories. Wow, that's all going to 1097 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: be under scrutiny now, Like I'm sure, Well, those guys 1098 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: have won an article from you know, almost a year ago, 1099 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: so they were like prolific anglers in this area. Many 1100 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: like mischievous. It's like felony still in money, Say, what's 1101 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: the worst cheating you've ever done? Uh? I grew up 1102 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,760 Speaker 1: loving baseball in the late nineties, and you know, it 1103 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 1: was like it's hard to talk about cheating without with 1104 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: a baseball player, without talking about steroids. Man, it's just 1105 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: like the height of all the people watch like I was, 1106 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: you could not miss the Cardinals play when Mark McGuire 1107 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: was was chasing it was chasing that that that record, 1108 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 1: and no one, i mean maybe people were thinking that 1109 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: I was pretty young at the time, but no one 1110 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 1: was like looking at this guy thinking like why does 1111 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 1: he look like he just got stung by a hundred bees? 1112 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Like no man should be should look like this. And 1113 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 1: then and then the effect that that had on the 1114 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 1: week for a few years was was massive. I don't 1115 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 1: know from someone who's like now a professional baseball player 1116 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 1: and he's that you still kind of feel that kind 1117 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 1: of that that with the weight of the steroid. No, 1118 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty it's pretty gone. Yeah, I mean we're 1119 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: testing now. It's like you can't. Yeah, I mean we're 1120 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 1: getting we've had c DT. They're like, which the guys 1121 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 1: that drugged us is I mean starting It's been like 1122 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: they've been there like every day for the last like 1123 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: two weeks, and like randoms whether it's blood tests or 1124 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: you know here, and so it's like they've cracked down 1125 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 1: on it so hard. It's like guys aren't Yeah, guys 1126 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: aren't getting away with it. They're just over yeah and 1127 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,120 Speaker 1: sophisticated beyond, Like it's not just anabolic steroids they're looking 1128 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: for anymore. Yeah, they're looking forever. And like I said, 1129 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: it's like the they're taking blood. It's like you just can't, 1130 01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: you can't get away with it. When did you guys 1131 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,080 Speaker 1: when you were born? You were born in Tennessee, moved 1132 01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,640 Speaker 1: in Mississippi, right, Yeah, so I lived I lived in 1133 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,960 Speaker 1: her Yeah, and I've never lived in Tennessee, like physically 1134 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: lived in Tennessee. Um. Um, I've lived in Hernando, Mississippi, 1135 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,320 Speaker 1: which is twenty minutes from Memphis. So it's like Memphis 1136 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 1: was the closest hospital. So that's that's that's why. Yeah, 1137 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,800 Speaker 1: it's like that's the only place to go. Um My 1138 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 1: buddy is always you know, especially on the team, you're 1139 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 1: not from Mississippi or from Tennessee. I'm like, oh, that's why. 1140 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,200 Speaker 1: That's why I was always always like Mississippiromssissippi, Mississippi, and 1141 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,920 Speaker 1: that's born in Memphis. Tenn because your parents drove over 1142 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,760 Speaker 1: there the way. But birth certificate says Memphis, Tennessee, so 1143 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 1: you can't argue with it. He could still help out 1144 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 1: with the Squirrel cook Off though, Oh yeah, we should 1145 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,760 Speaker 1: talk about this. How connected to Tennessee? Do you feel 1146 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 1: like a strong, super strong connection? Not really to Memphis 1147 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,680 Speaker 1: area though, right, I go up like I went up 1148 01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: there one time this all season for Luke Kong's concert. 1149 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 1: That's the only time. So I don't don't, I said, 1150 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: I get enough of somewhat of a big city, so 1151 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 1: I stay stay secluded as possible. We ever got to 1152 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 1: meet Luke Oh yeah, yeah, he came into the locker 1153 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 1: room about a love over a month ago. Yeah. Yeah, 1154 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,719 Speaker 1: he's getting a great No, he doesn't know. He doesn't 1155 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: know about this either, but so we're going to ramp 1156 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: it up. Well, here's the thing we're trying to work on, 1157 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 1: so you might you might have to come up because 1158 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,000 Speaker 1: if you can make it, we're trying to work on 1159 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: this sing where uh there's we're trying to get. There 1160 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 1: were some people that wanted to move the National Squirrel 1161 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:49,200 Speaker 1: cook Off. World Squirrel cook Off has always been in Arkansas, 1162 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 1: and they wanted to bring it to Tennessee, but the 1163 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,240 Speaker 1: animal rights people got onto it and like they're they 1164 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 1: lost their venue. So we're trying to bring it back 1165 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,439 Speaker 1: with a band. Yeah, you might need to bring up 1166 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 1: a squirrel dish. I can do that and you can 1167 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 1: revisit your birthplace the kill Messa squirrels one morning. So 1168 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: when when you were growing up there, what was the 1169 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,000 Speaker 1: what was the How did you get introduced to hunting 1170 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: and fishing? Um? So I got introduced really by my 1171 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 1: my uncle, like bow hunting. Um my dad hunted. My 1172 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 1: dad grew up in Demas, Arkansas, small town. Um, die 1173 01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,479 Speaker 1: hard duck hunter. Yeah, that's good duck hunting country right there. Um, 1174 01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: die hard duck hunter. Like he tells me stories all 1175 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the time. This is when to me, he said, when 1176 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,960 Speaker 1: ducks were around. He doesn't think ducks ducks around anymore. 1177 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,639 Speaker 1: That's a common malady that happens when you get older. Yeah, 1178 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 1: they're not around as perhaps where you hunted them, you know, 1179 01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,439 Speaker 1: or they turned it into a Walmart or something, you know, 1180 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 1: and it just seems like the whole world ended. Yeah. 1181 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: So he you know, he said he they used to 1182 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning kill limon and Mallard go 1183 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: to class like every the morning. So it's like and 1184 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,080 Speaker 1: then kind of, as you know, my sister came around, 1185 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 1: I came around, my brother came around. He just kind 1186 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 1: of stopped. Uh. He's more of a camp guy who 1187 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:15,760 Speaker 1: loves to cook, um, have a having cocktail along with it. Um. 1188 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 1: But really, my uncle Heath introduced me to to to 1189 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 1: deer hunting. Um why on Mississippi every weekend. I got 1190 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: the chance too. I was going down there um and 1191 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: and just spending the weekend with him hunting. Killed my 1192 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: first actually killed my first deal with a rifle there, 1193 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 1: killed my first boat or a dealer with the bow 1194 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,120 Speaker 1: there um and ever since then? What was that? Why? 1195 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,800 Speaker 1: The Mississippi not not far from Startville, Mississippi State, about 1196 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 1: an hour west of there. So did uh where'd you 1197 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,200 Speaker 1: wind up going to? So? What high school? Did you 1198 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,439 Speaker 1: go to? Sota Central? Uh? In South Haven, Mississippi? And 1199 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: by that point you were hardcore baseball? Yeah? At that point, 1200 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,479 Speaker 1: I mean I this is as as soon as I 1201 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,679 Speaker 1: could pick up a bat, I was swinging a baseball bat, 1202 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: um and and just fell in love with it. My 1203 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,680 Speaker 1: my dad, um, you know, was a sports guy. He 1204 01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:10,840 Speaker 1: punted at Mississippi State. UM played baseball there for his 1205 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 1: freshman year and then just just went to football only. 1206 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 1: So we were always doing sports UM and just gravitated 1207 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: towards towards baseball versus football or basketball. There had to 1208 01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: have been though, man, Like, there had to have been 1209 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:29,639 Speaker 1: either or or this or that moment. There's this there's 1210 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,880 Speaker 1: this quote by Jim Harrison. I aishually I had it 1211 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 1: with me. The writer Jim Harrison has this quote. We're 1212 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: talking about where he grew up. He said that at 1213 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 1: at some age it was either there was kids that 1214 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 1: had a baseball bat when they're riding their bike down 1215 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: the road, or the kids that had a fishing pole. 1216 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 1: And he said, and they might intermix a little bit, 1217 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: but their destinies were set, you know. But that didn't 1218 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,640 Speaker 1: happen to you, Like, how was this sort of you 1219 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean when you how was it figuring 1220 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,639 Speaker 1: that out? Like from hunting, just like when you were young? Yeah, 1221 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, to be involved in something that 1222 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,439 Speaker 1: would be if you're good at it, you have promised 1223 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 1: at it. It requires unbelievable dedication. You can't be distracted, right, 1224 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,679 Speaker 1: and then you have to be looking at the stuff 1225 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna do, right, Yeah, I know. I mean 1226 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: I remember growing up and and in the summers it 1227 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 1: was like, you know, all my buddies were going to 1228 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 1: the lake, all my buddies were going to the pool, 1229 01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: they were going on vacation, and I was going to 1230 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,320 Speaker 1: play baseball. Um And it was just you know, one 1231 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,640 Speaker 1: of those things that I love so much. Um And 1232 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:39,720 Speaker 1: it just like I said, it kind of what I 1233 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,559 Speaker 1: was saying back earlier, is like I get the best 1234 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 1: of both worlds. Like it's that's how it was even 1235 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, growing up, It's like summers were baseball winners 1236 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 1: were hunting, and it's just like that's what that's what 1237 01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 1: I did. Um and and and it was for me, 1238 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,360 Speaker 1: it was an easy choice between baseball and football. Like 1239 01:17:55,479 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: I I liked football, um, but I knew just the 1240 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 1: I think the tension to the small details that the 1241 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: game of baseball, you know, you have to understand and 1242 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 1: and focus on the mental side of the game. Like 1243 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,559 Speaker 1: I think that was what you know, attracted me so much. 1244 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: There was so much uh little side, you know, the 1245 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,360 Speaker 1: little things that the side of the you know, baseball, 1246 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,640 Speaker 1: that that I think attracted me more. Um. And like 1247 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 1: I said, just being able to do baseball and then 1248 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,240 Speaker 1: one or for my hunting season. Yeah, I was thinking 1249 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 1: about that earlier when we were talking about your last 1250 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,320 Speaker 1: five games after a hundred and sixty two games, that 1251 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 1: it can come down to like a few pitches. You 1252 01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:43,719 Speaker 1: know that that level of detail and statistical and nominally 1253 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 1: in baseball, like this is not football. And that's that's 1254 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: what I think. Some fans get so bored with it 1255 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 1: and they you know, baseball is boring, it's like, but 1256 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 1: when you really dive into it, it's like, you know, 1257 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,800 Speaker 1: there's so like the tens in the detail is so 1258 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,880 Speaker 1: huge in the game. Like you know, it's like, you know, 1259 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:08,320 Speaker 1: if I say there's a guy on first and you know, 1260 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: somewhat of a slow runner, and I have an opportunity 1261 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: to turn double play, I don't, um, you know, that 1262 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 1: guy ends up staying on first or second or whatever 1263 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,640 Speaker 1: it may happen. It's like that guy ends up base hit, 1264 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 1: scoring and run. It's like, you know, looking back at 1265 01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 1: the end of the game, it's like, if I would 1266 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,080 Speaker 1: have turned that double play, the game's you know, you know, 1267 01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 1: we may be when it when about one versus losing 1268 01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,240 Speaker 1: by one and so it's like that small stuff is 1269 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 1: to me is what you know? I think I love 1270 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: so much of it. And you have that level of 1271 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,599 Speaker 1: knowledge about all the players, like you know that someone's 1272 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 1: a slow run. Yeah, yeah, we and part of it 1273 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,479 Speaker 1: like analytically, you know, it's taken over to the game 1274 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,800 Speaker 1: so much. It's like if I don't know if you've 1275 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 1: noticed last night, it's like every between every batter, I 1276 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 1: was like pulling out this card in my pocket and 1277 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,720 Speaker 1: it shows like where you know, it kind of gives 1278 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: us an idea where to play. You know, it has 1279 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, how fast the guy I like plus minus 1280 01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 1: like whether guy runs fast? Like that. You know what's 1281 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,759 Speaker 1: funny because I kept saying I was saying to someone's 1282 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 1: like that dude just pull a phone out of his 1283 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: pocket and he's like, there's no way from the Diamondbacks. 1284 01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:15,479 Speaker 1: Did you'all see that happen? Yeah, the guys, that's what 1285 01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,160 Speaker 1: you say, There's no way he had a phone. No. No, 1286 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,280 Speaker 1: It's like we have like a little card they do 1287 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: all like their their you know, analytical work. We get 1288 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 1: it um and it kind of helps us, you know, 1289 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, we still play like the the eye test 1290 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,479 Speaker 1: of you know, we can make adjustments if we want to, 1291 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: but we you know, it's very helpful. Is that kind 1292 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 1: of what what you're you're referencing when you start mixing 1293 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,200 Speaker 1: up how you guys are shifting up. Okay, so yeah, 1294 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,760 Speaker 1: that's that's where we get get our information. Are you 1295 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 1: happy or disappointed at the shift? He's going away happy 1296 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:47,880 Speaker 1: in a way because I don't have to run the 1297 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: right field. Um, you potentially we're shifting all the way 1298 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 1: to write, Yeah, I don't know if I want. I 1299 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,960 Speaker 1: went I went out to shallow right field. Yes, a 1300 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,640 Speaker 1: couple of times. Um, you know, I'm I'm excited at 1301 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 1: that I don't have to do that next year. But 1302 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,240 Speaker 1: at the same time, like the rule is is you 1303 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 1: have to have to position players on each bag or 1304 01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,200 Speaker 1: each side of the bag next year of second base. 1305 01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,280 Speaker 1: My thought process was, as long as you have a 1306 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 1: foot in in the dirt. I was just like, take 1307 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 1: away the extremes, like the guys that go all the 1308 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 1: way out to right field. But it is what it is, um, 1309 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,639 Speaker 1: and I think it'll you know, it'll help some guys 1310 01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: from a hitting standpoint, and it takes you know, and 1311 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,519 Speaker 1: then shows the value of you know, a true defender 1312 01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 1: of like the range. H you gotta have that that 1313 01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:31,720 Speaker 1: side of it next year, so it'll be cool. How 1314 01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,759 Speaker 1: I know, you probably can't get into too much detail, 1315 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,600 Speaker 1: but how um, how specific is the card? I mean, 1316 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: you don't have a card on every player, right or 1317 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: not a card on every player, but like we have 1318 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 1: every player um and then I mean it's pretty basic. 1319 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's you know, whether we're shifting 1320 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,760 Speaker 1: or not. Um and that, Like I said, that just 1321 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,759 Speaker 1: tells me if I'm if I'm going to right field 1322 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 1: or not. And then um, if if he's you know, 1323 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 1: if he's a speed guy or if he's a slower guy. 1324 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 1: That just kind of helps us tell you know, how 1325 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 1: much that game clock of you on our mind, of 1326 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 1: how much time I have to to get the guy 1327 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: out and hurt to find someone's card and find your 1328 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,280 Speaker 1: name on it. It's a slow guy, that's me. I'm 1329 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 1: that guy on someone's car that's like, hey, all the 1330 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 1: time in the world. Just can you tell us what 1331 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 1: he might say about Pete Alnto, Like what a few 1332 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: things details about it? He's straight up, which I mean, 1333 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 1: that's kudos to him. He gets the ball, you know, 1334 01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,840 Speaker 1: you've seen it, like he has the ball power all 1335 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: sides of the field. Um, I want to say he's 1336 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,880 Speaker 1: an equal, like what we call an equal guy, Like 1337 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 1: he gets down the line pretty pretty fine. So, um, 1338 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,760 Speaker 1: nothing nothing bad to say about Pete. Hey, you know, 1339 01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 1: speaking of running fast, who wasn't found talk what's the 1340 01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 1: dude that has the race? Like the seventh inning race? 1341 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 1: I was hoping that the freeze. I know, I'm very shocked. 1342 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,960 Speaker 1: He normally there every day I checked there. Explain this 1343 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, So they what they do is um 1344 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,720 Speaker 1: and this is exclusive to Braves games. Right, So they 1345 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,439 Speaker 1: start on one side of the foul pole in the 1346 01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 1: warning track and they pick a random person in the fans. 1347 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, do you want to beat the freeze? 1348 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Where do they try to find like a fast looking dude? 1349 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 1: They because the dude that they had last day who 1350 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:20,920 Speaker 1: gets to do the run to get the base. So 1351 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: that guy he looked like you went and found like 1352 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 1: a pretty I mean, that wasn't just a random dude. 1353 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 1: There's been guys that have beat the freeze. And yeah, 1354 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:33,160 Speaker 1: and there's been guys that pulled Hammy's Uh, they've beat 1355 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:35,600 Speaker 1: the free There's been guys that have a dirt that 1356 01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,800 Speaker 1: have tripped, um, so I think they just go pretty random. 1357 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,920 Speaker 1: But it's well, you got a nice little kick out 1358 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 1: of it, especially, like I said, a guy that's you know, 1359 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,759 Speaker 1: not stretched and he's about halfway there and he checks 1360 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 1: up because his hamstring is pulled, and it's like it's 1361 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,560 Speaker 1: like John Colt. It's like Coulter's run right, Like the 1362 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 1: guy gets the head start. Yeah, yeah, guy gets like 1363 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,200 Speaker 1: a fifteen you know yard yard head start, and you 1364 01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:06,679 Speaker 1: know he normally he's can roll you. Yesterday should shows 1365 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:10,080 Speaker 1: you for that. Yet to night will make it happen 1366 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 1: to me. Man. Yeah, it goes viral a few times 1367 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,040 Speaker 1: a year because somebody trips and falls and, like you said, 1368 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 1: gets a serious injury. It's entertaining itself. What do you 1369 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,000 Speaker 1: have like a home hunting set up? Or is that 1370 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:24,720 Speaker 1: just out of the question because you can't do all 1371 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,640 Speaker 1: you can't keep track of this. So I'm in a 1372 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 1: hunting club on the Mississippi River in tunica Um. It's 1373 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,760 Speaker 1: it's four thousand acres um just just west of Tunaka, Mississippi. 1374 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,360 Speaker 1: I think it's like twelve of us in it um 1375 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 1: and that that's what that's why I you know, when 1376 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,479 Speaker 1: I'm home, that's where where I hunt. So you got 1377 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,839 Speaker 1: a spot where, even though you can't pay any attention 1378 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 1: to that stuff because you gotta focus, You've got a 1379 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 1: spot that your friends and stuff just roll right into. 1380 01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so, um, the way it works is, um, 1381 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,320 Speaker 1: like I said, there's twelve of us. One of my 1382 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,720 Speaker 1: my best friends is in it um will Craft and 1383 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: his dad and so they you know with this new 1384 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Spartan you know they sell ear cameras are awesome this 1385 01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,880 Speaker 1: time of year. Like I'm sitting in my locker ro 1386 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: I'm glued to it um because I'm you know, I'm 1387 01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 1: checking them. Um. Oh yeah. So they, like said, they 1388 01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,200 Speaker 1: fortunate enough. They kind of set everything up, you know, 1389 01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,640 Speaker 1: feed um whatever it may be. You know, hang some 1390 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,400 Speaker 1: stands move from cameras around so that, like I said, 1391 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,160 Speaker 1: when I whenever I do get home, you know I 1392 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 1: can I can roll right into it. How do you, uh, 1393 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,640 Speaker 1: when you're talking about all the analytics and all the 1394 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,880 Speaker 1: stuff to keep track of and all the studying, what's 1395 01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: your when when? And how do you just zone out? 1396 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,920 Speaker 1: I mean during season like as far as just that 1397 01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 1: you I don't know, watch some dudes getting in a 1398 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,640 Speaker 1: fight at a Walleye Tearraman on YouTube or whatever. I 1399 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,200 Speaker 1: mean talking about during before games. No, I mean just 1400 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 1: like in your schedule. I'm pretty low key. I'm not 1401 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 1: gonna lie like I don't like to. I'm not one 1402 01:25:55,760 --> 01:26:00,000 Speaker 1: of those guys that's sitting, you know, in my hotel 1403 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,680 Speaker 1: room and like I'm studying film or um. You know 1404 01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check them like the next next day. Starter. Um. 1405 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,000 Speaker 1: But you know, to me, it's like over a hundred 1406 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,599 Speaker 1: and sixty two games. If if you like, you gotta 1407 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,000 Speaker 1: step away from it. Um or you know, I like 1408 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,840 Speaker 1: to play golf on the on the road. If if 1409 01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,760 Speaker 1: I get an off day, you know, I'll try to 1410 01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 1: hit the links just to do something different. It's like 1411 01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:25,800 Speaker 1: like I said, you're we may have like two to 1412 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,280 Speaker 1: three days off in a month, and it's just like 1413 01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 1: I said, it's so repetitive every day. It's like hotel 1414 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,960 Speaker 1: field home field, hotel field home field. So it's like 1415 01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 1: doing something different. Um. I think is is huge from 1416 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,240 Speaker 1: from the middle side of it. So you know, I 1417 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,680 Speaker 1: lock in once I get to the yard. Um, like 1418 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,920 Speaker 1: I said, I'll figure out who's pitching that night. Once 1419 01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 1: I get to the yard, I'll go in to do 1420 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 1: some homework. We you know, we have an app on 1421 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,680 Speaker 1: our phone that we're able to log in and um. 1422 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,680 Speaker 1: And you know, kind of like I said, do your 1423 01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:59,960 Speaker 1: homework short to speak of of what that picture is 1424 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,360 Speaker 1: gonna try to do to you that night. Um. But 1425 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, at at the same time, 1426 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 1: there's some you know, definitely got to step away at points. 1427 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 1: You've also always been a part of like competitive teams 1428 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,400 Speaker 1: in the majors. And imagine you know, people who play 1429 01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 1: for a club that is eliminated from playoff contention by July, 1430 01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,640 Speaker 1: they like do feel that law more than you do. 1431 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 1: It's it's probably a lot easier stay engaged when you're 1432 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,720 Speaker 1: like always in the hunge. Oh yeah, no doubt. I mean, 1433 01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: like I said, it's like you're always looking, you know, 1434 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 1: even like this year, it's like you're always watching the 1435 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,840 Speaker 1: box scores of the Mets. Um. We're we're seeing how 1436 01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,880 Speaker 1: they're doing. Um. And I think that's that's the beauty 1437 01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 1: of its. Like you said, you're you're playing for something. Uh, 1438 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,880 Speaker 1: You're not just out there you know, trying to you know, 1439 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,160 Speaker 1: whatever it may be for For teams that you know, 1440 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,479 Speaker 1: aren't aren't in a playoff contingent. But like I said, 1441 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 1: being able to being fortunate enough to be on a 1442 01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,679 Speaker 1: team that you know, competes every year, it it definitely 1443 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,200 Speaker 1: makes it, you know, a lot easier to to go 1444 01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,680 Speaker 1: out there every day. And like I said, you're you're 1445 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:01,439 Speaker 1: playing for something, you know at the end of the year. 1446 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:05,639 Speaker 1: You know how the president has an intelligence briefing where 1447 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: people come in they right take it all down for it, 1448 01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:11,000 Speaker 1: you have to do your own like do you have 1449 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: does someone present to you about what's going on? Or 1450 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: you have to do your own research. You have you 1451 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: have to go over the materials yourself. Uh no, like 1452 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 1: I said, that's like analytical side of the game is 1453 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 1: like grown so much in the last three or four years. Um. 1454 01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,599 Speaker 1: So like we get we have we have hitters meetings, 1455 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 1: like we go over like scouting report um I Like 1456 01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,640 Speaker 1: I said, I just said that we we get a 1457 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,320 Speaker 1: scouting report on the picture. Someone for someone presents the 1458 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: information someone verbally presents the information to that verbally and 1459 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 1: we get like paperwork on it. Um at the field 1460 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,360 Speaker 1: and we can, um you know, go over and take 1461 01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 1: all take as much or as little information as we 1462 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,400 Speaker 1: want and like I said, form form a game plan. 1463 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:54,919 Speaker 1: Yeah who who? Uh So it's probably the most demanding 1464 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,920 Speaker 1: for the picture, I would say, so, um, just because 1465 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,240 Speaker 1: is they're seeing so many different guys like me and 1466 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,240 Speaker 1: all his personality right right. So it's like for me, 1467 01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: it's like I may see you know, I may say 1468 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,599 Speaker 1: one guy one night for guys really good um that night, 1469 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,640 Speaker 1: or I may see four four guys. Um. So, but 1470 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,760 Speaker 1: you know they're seeing you know, for sure nine you know, 1471 01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 1: pinch hitting, you may see ten or eleven. Uh So, 1472 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: I think it's definitely more more important for for them. 1473 01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:30,600 Speaker 1: What's it like to have all your all your finances 1474 01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:34,120 Speaker 1: just become like national news story, We'll you know what 1475 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Like yeah, yeah, to be like he will 1476 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 1: get this much money in this ten years and all 1477 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,559 Speaker 1: of a sudden. I mean, it's just there's no sort 1478 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 1: of like politeness about like actually, you know, don't know 1479 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,920 Speaker 1: what Bob makes. You know, it's gotta be like you 1480 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:52,120 Speaker 1: gotta feel pretty early on, you know, early on in 1481 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,400 Speaker 1: my career, I was, you know, a little a about it. 1482 01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 1: But then it's like, you know, oh, I'm not gonna 1483 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,680 Speaker 1: step away from it because of that reason. So you 1484 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:08,760 Speaker 1: just kind of not to sign the contract. I just 1485 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:13,120 Speaker 1: don't want everybody to know. So, yeah, it's one of 1486 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:15,640 Speaker 1: those things you embrace, you just kind of get over it. Uh, 1487 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,639 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Sean and I were talking about. 1488 01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 1: There was a player last night. I was having a 1489 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:21,880 Speaker 1: couple of had a couple of rough plays, and the 1490 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: guy in front of us just yelled out his contract amount, 1491 01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like it was the thing his 1492 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,719 Speaker 1: insult at the player was to yell out his contract amount. 1493 01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 1: Was it was it Rosario? Yeah, okay, yep, yeah, which 1494 01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 1: was a weird, weird thing to this, I can imagine. 1495 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,640 Speaker 1: So you had you you have, um, you signed a 1496 01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,360 Speaker 1: contract with the Braves. It was uh hadn't been done 1497 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:55,719 Speaker 1: before like a link time. Yeah yeah, um, thank you Braves. 1498 01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:00,040 Speaker 1: Uh No, very very fortunate. Um. You know I I 1499 01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,120 Speaker 1: it made sense to me, um to to just be here, 1500 01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully for the rest of my career. I mean, 1501 01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:13,559 Speaker 1: I my family's five hours from here, you know, in Mississippi. Um, 1502 01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,599 Speaker 1: my wife and I had some family that lives here. Um, 1503 01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, the organization is great, you know, the family 1504 01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,439 Speaker 1: relations are great. You know, having a little one that 1505 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:23,880 Speaker 1: just you know, it it made too much sense for 1506 01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: for me not to you know, to to sign something 1507 01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,680 Speaker 1: that was that was long term here. So when you 1508 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,839 Speaker 1: when you did that, was it just kind of like, um, 1509 01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,439 Speaker 1: in terms of aspiration and career, when you got to 1510 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:39,880 Speaker 1: that point, it's just like a side relief. Where is it, like, 1511 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,759 Speaker 1: holy cow, man, now I really got to like performed 1512 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,599 Speaker 1: for a long time, or else I'm gonna feel like dirt, 1513 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,560 Speaker 1: you know. Um. And definitely was the side relief, just 1514 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 1: because you know, up until that point, you know, I 1515 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,640 Speaker 1: could have been traded, you know, the next day, or 1516 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,640 Speaker 1: or you know, I you know, a career injury that 1517 01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,640 Speaker 1: could happen. I could you know, not know what was 1518 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,639 Speaker 1: my next move. Um. So you know, like I said, 1519 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,879 Speaker 1: it was just you know that that right there alone, 1520 01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,599 Speaker 1: I think took a lot of weight off my shoulders, 1521 01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,680 Speaker 1: just knowing that, you know, my family set up for 1522 01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:16,280 Speaker 1: the for the you know, the rest of your life. 1523 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, don't have to worry about college for for 1524 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,680 Speaker 1: a little man, like any any of those things. All 1525 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 1: the financial side of it was taken care of. But 1526 01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,519 Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like, Okay, now, you know, 1527 01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,040 Speaker 1: I expect more out of myself. Fans to expect more 1528 01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:31,960 Speaker 1: out of me, so that that definitely, you know, plays 1529 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,720 Speaker 1: and I could picture that just being a huge you know, 1530 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:39,280 Speaker 1: because then there's sort of this uh it's like the 1531 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 1: fans everyone they've bought something and now it better turn 1532 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:49,120 Speaker 1: off um And And to me, that's like it's like 1533 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 1: another thing that like I love. It's it's just like, hey, 1534 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:54,759 Speaker 1: I got I gotta just another reason to work harder 1535 01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,479 Speaker 1: and and try to try to perform better. Is just 1536 01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, try to be that guy that fans can 1537 01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,720 Speaker 1: rely on, my teammates can rely on um And and 1538 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,840 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the beauty of it. To me, I 1539 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,519 Speaker 1: spend a silly amount of time fantasizing about like the 1540 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,680 Speaker 1: deer hunting property i'd buy if I were to win 1541 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,080 Speaker 1: the lottery or something. Now that you sign this contract, 1542 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:17,000 Speaker 1: is that on your radar that you're gonna get a 1543 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:22,640 Speaker 1: farm Mississippi? I want? I would love to own some 1544 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,640 Speaker 1: uh some land behind the levee um by the Mississippi River. 1545 01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,960 Speaker 1: Just um. Growing up hunting in the hills of Mississippi. 1546 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:32,439 Speaker 1: Deer on is big. Being in this camp that I 1547 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,240 Speaker 1: am in now behind the levee Um. There's some giants 1548 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:40,400 Speaker 1: that walk around there sneaky sneaky giants, swamp donkeys. Yeah, 1549 01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 1: there you go. Um No, so that's definitely in the 1550 01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,920 Speaker 1: in the works and hopefully in the next couple of years. 1551 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,360 Speaker 1: What about like when farm two comes around, is that 1552 01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 1: gonna be Mississippi as well? Are you thinking somewhere else? 1553 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:55,599 Speaker 1: If you know, if I whatever purchase another piece, um 1554 01:33:56,120 --> 01:34:00,120 Speaker 1: out of state Illinois, I would love to be able to, 1555 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, because you know I could be there in five, 1556 01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,920 Speaker 1: five or six hours. Um, not not far um, Like 1557 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:07,960 Speaker 1: I said, would love a love a piece up there somewhere. 1558 01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:14,360 Speaker 1: Are you actively looking for stuff? Um? Always? Even even 1559 01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,519 Speaker 1: before I signed the contract, Like I said, it was 1560 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,639 Speaker 1: a dream, Like I've always drained owing in my own 1561 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:24,000 Speaker 1: land and um, you know, building it for the better, 1562 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:27,640 Speaker 1: for for wildlife. My grandfather farmed, Um, so I was, 1563 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, own a tractor riding around. Yeah. So it's uh, 1564 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's owning a piece, you know that's 1565 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, half of it's we call it like the 1566 01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,599 Speaker 1: wet side, which is on the Mississippi side of the levee, 1567 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 1: or the dry side. Um, you know, whether it's half 1568 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,960 Speaker 1: and half farming a little bit, you know, definitely want 1569 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 1: to want to do something just for people who aren't familiar. 1570 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,760 Speaker 1: Can you explain when you when you talk about blow 1571 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,800 Speaker 1: the levee or so there's a huge levey. Yeah, there's 1572 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: a huge level that runs down the Mississippi River. Um, 1573 01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:00,680 Speaker 1: and it's just you know a flood flood you know, 1574 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,280 Speaker 1: flood levee. Um. So just on the other side, like 1575 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,000 Speaker 1: on the wet we called the wet side, which is 1576 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,720 Speaker 1: the side closest to to uh to the river. Um. 1577 01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 1: Just it's something about the just huge old um oak tree. 1578 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean just trees are huge. I mean it's just 1579 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,160 Speaker 1: different to me. It's like old forest. Yeah yeah, yeah, 1580 01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:22,800 Speaker 1: it's like you you go on the other side, it's 1581 01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,160 Speaker 1: just like completely different. It's crazy. It's like when you 1582 01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: go over there, it's like you're into me. You're in 1583 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,560 Speaker 1: a whole another another world. Well it hasn't been so 1584 01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:33,639 Speaker 1: manipulated by man ye right. And then like you said, 1585 01:35:33,640 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 1: you're right there at the delta. So it's like on 1586 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 1: the other the dry side, it's like straight flat pretty 1587 01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:42,639 Speaker 1: much all farmland. Um. So it's I love spending time 1588 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,679 Speaker 1: behind behind the levee. H. That's a good term. Yeah, 1589 01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:51,200 Speaker 1: that's good. So what are your what are your plans 1590 01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 1: this year? When you get down? Your season gonna lay low? Uh? 1591 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 1: You know we had little man, uh my my son 1592 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:03,240 Speaker 1: eastan April, So, um, gonna gonna lay low this this 1593 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,120 Speaker 1: offseason because I hadn't got to spend a whole lot 1594 01:36:05,160 --> 01:36:07,479 Speaker 1: of time with him. Um, I know, I'm going to 1595 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:11,760 Speaker 1: Nebraska to hunt, uh hunt up there. It's kind of 1596 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,680 Speaker 1: like my my year, my yearly thing that I do. 1597 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,960 Speaker 1: But other than that, almost stay stay around the house. 1598 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,000 Speaker 1: Uh and just you know, spend as much time with 1599 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,360 Speaker 1: him as possible. So like you got any trips you'll 1600 01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:24,120 Speaker 1: have to cancel if things go good. Uh no, that's 1601 01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 1: I said, that's that's the only one I got I 1602 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,760 Speaker 1: got planned this year. So did you mean your kid 1603 01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:32,600 Speaker 1: after the Baseball bat Company? No? So a lot of 1604 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: people's tea. Yeah even better. Um is it true that 1605 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:46,880 Speaker 1: you got that so your your son was born during season? Yeah? 1606 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,560 Speaker 1: You guys get what's your what you guys get like 1607 01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,680 Speaker 1: a three day fraternity leave or how does that work? Yeah? 1608 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,519 Speaker 1: So three days? Is I mean obviously if you need more, 1609 01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:58,479 Speaker 1: they do? You know? Alex is as good about it? Um? 1610 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,640 Speaker 1: Were you playing on birth? And? Oh? Yeah? So I 1611 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: listen to that. So we were in l a um 1612 01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:10,920 Speaker 1: and Anda was, you know, call She called me a 1613 01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:13,400 Speaker 1: couple of times like hey, I'm having these weird you 1614 01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 1: know pains, and it's just you know, it's like every 1615 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. Like I was like, maybe you know, call um, 1616 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,320 Speaker 1: what's what's the terms. She's not. It's not there like 1617 01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,840 Speaker 1: the doctor, uh, midwife, midwife. Um, there it is. So 1618 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,479 Speaker 1: I was like call her and just like see if 1619 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 1: you need to come in or whatever. And she was 1620 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: like they're called her And doctor was like, oh, they're 1621 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 1: probably just Braxton Hicks like you know, drink a bunch 1622 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,599 Speaker 1: of water and put your feet up, blah blah blah. 1623 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,719 Speaker 1: So um, this was like twenty minutes for game time. 1624 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,360 Speaker 1: So I was like I told our trainer George. UM, 1625 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, we call Anna just to make 1626 01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,080 Speaker 1: sure she knows, like if anything goes on to call 1627 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 1: you like that way I can you know, get get 1628 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:59,360 Speaker 1: on plane and go. Um middle of the game, you know, 1629 01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, the middle of the game. Um. You know, 1630 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,000 Speaker 1: George gets a call and it's going to the hospital. Um. 1631 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,040 Speaker 1: And at this point I think we're in like the 1632 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 1: seventh or eighth inning. They start looking at flights. There's 1633 01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 1: no you know, no private flights that are gonna get 1634 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 1: me in there any earlier, you know, commercial flights. There 1635 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 1: was like the Red Eye was like the only thing 1636 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I could take at this point because you know the 1637 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:28,000 Speaker 1: time change and stuff. Um so you're in you said 1638 01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,400 Speaker 1: you're in Los Angeles, Yeah, in l A. She's here. 1639 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,040 Speaker 1: So her her aunt ends up coming, get to her, 1640 01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 1: take her to the hospital. You know this is you 1641 01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 1: know she's going, she's getting ready. Um as soon as 1642 01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,439 Speaker 1: the games over with George is like, hey, you gotta flight, 1643 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 1: you gotta leave. So like I'm like straight panic mode, 1644 01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:47,120 Speaker 1: go get in the shower. They get me a car, 1645 01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:49,200 Speaker 1: send me to the airport. Did you did you have 1646 01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,320 Speaker 1: the bat while this is going on? Well they didn't. 1647 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,640 Speaker 1: They luckily they didn't tell me, um because they well 1648 01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,280 Speaker 1: there was no there was like there was no reason 1649 01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,240 Speaker 1: too because the only flight I could take was a 1650 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,880 Speaker 1: mental like so they were they weren't pulling me out 1651 01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 1: like there's no sense and pulling me out of the game. 1652 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 1: Um So, but they're working at it. Yeah, they're they're 1653 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,559 Speaker 1: all like behind talking to my agent, getting every trying 1654 01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 1: to get everything ready. Um So, as soon as the 1655 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,840 Speaker 1: game is over, I shower, rush to the you know, 1656 01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 1: the airport, UM to take the Red Eye, and like 1657 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 1: seven thirty I get a text from you know, Anna's sister, 1658 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 1: your dad, and I'm on the day flight. I end 1659 01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:31,559 Speaker 1: up missing it, which crushed me. That was that was tough. 1660 01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:33,720 Speaker 1: You got like no sleep on the flight because I'm 1661 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,040 Speaker 1: sitting here, like, you know, thinking what you know what, 1662 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, what all was going on? Um Landed said 1663 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,519 Speaker 1: he had, you know, born at seventh. It's like seven 1664 01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:45,200 Speaker 1: thirty five. I landed like eight and end up getting 1665 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 1: up there like nine thirty. Traffic and everything and just 1666 01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:50,679 Speaker 1: it was a long a couple of days. But anyway, 1667 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,439 Speaker 1: so we had an off day the next day. UM, 1668 01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 1: and you know at that point, you know, I can 1669 01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:00,800 Speaker 1: only do so much. So I up, you know, having 1670 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 1: the off day and and just missing the missing the 1671 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:07,000 Speaker 1: one one game. But no, normally you can, I said, 1672 01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,040 Speaker 1: you get three days of maternity ly even. But it 1673 01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:12,840 Speaker 1: was a good little ride. Um but I tell and 1674 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:14,799 Speaker 1: I was like it, maybe I have a blessing in disguise. 1675 01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 1: Because they waited so long to give her the epidural 1676 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 1: that my aunt ended up having to like step in 1677 01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,320 Speaker 1: and being a little mean, which I'm like, I don't 1678 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,360 Speaker 1: know if I would have could have done that. So 1679 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:27,360 Speaker 1: you may have been a blessing in the sky. You 1680 01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 1: might not have been as good as an abbey. Yeah, 1681 01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,000 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, all things work out for a reason. 1682 01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 1: So it's good. Do you guys desire to have more kids? Um? 1683 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:41,280 Speaker 1: I would? I think she would to you know, we've talked. 1684 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't think anytime soon. Um, I think yeah, to 1685 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:47,160 Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, but I think there's definitely hopefully 1686 01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:48,880 Speaker 1: another one in the in the future. We need to 1687 01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 1: do is get yourself a little calculator or a calendar 1688 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:54,800 Speaker 1: and figure out Oh yeah, we've I've already talked about 1689 01:40:54,800 --> 01:41:00,599 Speaker 1: it planning in the off season. Yeah. Man, we're gonna 1690 01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:05,160 Speaker 1: do this January, right man, I'm gonna be there. I'll 1691 01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:07,640 Speaker 1: drive you down to the house. I be there for 1692 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,880 Speaker 1: the whole san day. Be like, well, I thought it 1693 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:11,400 Speaker 1: was gonna be that way, but we're kind of onto 1694 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,880 Speaker 1: this really nice box, so it's gonna be you have 1695 01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 1: to go again. Well. The farther thing is is like, 1696 01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 1: and I could have been anywhere else, and I make 1697 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,760 Speaker 1: it on time, Like we happened to just be in 1698 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:26,880 Speaker 1: the West Coast, happened to be playing in l A. 1699 01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:31,840 Speaker 1: Just couldn't have been playing Washington or Phillies or New 1700 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: York where I'm an hour or two. You know, I'd 1701 01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:38,320 Speaker 1: been five and a half hour flight. But talk to 1702 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,920 Speaker 1: us about your quote that win viral earlier this year 1703 01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,280 Speaker 1: that I think it was popular among a lot about 1704 01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: doors been I'll go ahead and say I didn't say that. 1705 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 1: You didn't say that. So where did this come from? 1706 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 1: So there someone made I guess it was an account. 1707 01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,880 Speaker 1: Let's say the quality real quick. It says I crushed 1708 01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,320 Speaker 1: the ball and hunt deer and it ain't deer season? 1709 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:04,240 Speaker 1: Is that like the actual like insta liked graphic. Someone 1710 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:08,479 Speaker 1: made that about you, the very small print like sack 1711 01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,360 Speaker 1: sports or something. Well, no, so it says Austin Riley 1712 01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,600 Speaker 1: didn't say this something like that. So this account that 1713 01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:20,599 Speaker 1: created this, I know, like it funny, funny quote. Great, 1714 01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it says, um, they like to say 1715 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,960 Speaker 1: account made all this stuff. So it says like a 1716 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,320 Speaker 1: bunch of random stuff like from players and that, like 1717 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,120 Speaker 1: they you know, I didn't say this, but it's kind 1718 01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,680 Speaker 1: of funny. Oh yeah, it says Austin Riley did not 1719 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 1: say this about his recent hot streak, literally put it in. 1720 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:46,240 Speaker 1: I've had to tell a couple of people that, yeah, 1721 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:52,040 Speaker 1: it's a very small down to saying that now, like 1722 01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:56,080 Speaker 1: you should make that yours. I know, Um, I hadn't, 1723 01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,360 Speaker 1: but it's it's a it's a it's a hilary I've gotten. 1724 01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,240 Speaker 1: So when it came out, like all my buddies, like 1725 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,880 Speaker 1: everybody was sending to me, it was good. So did 1726 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,679 Speaker 1: that like introduce a lot of opposing players that would 1727 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,000 Speaker 1: come up and talk to me like, oh, you like 1728 01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:14,519 Speaker 1: deer hunting to I think everyone. I mean really, if 1729 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,720 Speaker 1: you look at my Instagram account, it's it's got It's not. Yeah, 1730 01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,479 Speaker 1: it's not. Everyone knows. Yes, everyone pretty much knew that 1731 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:23,280 Speaker 1: I was, you know, being from Mississippi. Though, Oh, you're 1732 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,800 Speaker 1: a big redneck hunter, aren't you. I was like, yeah, 1733 01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,479 Speaker 1: I guess all right, man, I know, I know you 1734 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,600 Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. But good luck with the 1735 01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:35,880 Speaker 1: family first and foremost appreciate that coratulations on your kid. Think, 1736 01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:37,599 Speaker 1: good luck with the rest of the year, and then 1737 01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:40,840 Speaker 1: one's done. Good luck with the hunt. Appreciate it. I'll 1738 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,160 Speaker 1: keep I'll keep an eye on it. Instagram make sure, 1739 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:45,519 Speaker 1: for sure, So for sure I appreciate you guys have me. 1740 01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:49,519 Speaker 1: Oh know it's great man, best walk up song in 1741 01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:53,120 Speaker 1: baseball to you. You know I'm saying you have it? 1742 01:43:53,320 --> 01:43:55,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Stone called Yes, he was talking about how 1743 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:57,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't have any connection to take me out to 1744 01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:59,599 Speaker 1: the ball game. But when I heard the glass shatter 1745 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,640 Speaker 1: for on Steve Austin, I was like, oh man, if 1746 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,519 Speaker 1: I was an imposing patriot, be so intimidated at that moment, 1747 01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,240 Speaker 1: so real quick on how that came out, so like 1748 01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 1: Nelly hot in here has been like my walk up 1749 01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,280 Speaker 1: film for like ever since I got into pro ball. 1750 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,280 Speaker 1: But everybody on Twitter was like hammering me. I was like, 1751 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,680 Speaker 1: you gotta tang, you gotta uh And I think I 1752 01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:23,360 Speaker 1: went through like a little skid where I struggle. I 1753 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,800 Speaker 1: was like, I'm changing it and end up going off 1754 01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,560 Speaker 1: after it. So's it's stuck. I love it. And I 1755 01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:31,000 Speaker 1: got to the after one in the World Series w W. 1756 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:36,840 Speaker 1: E sent me like an actual belt. It's my most 1757 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 1: like price. It says like w W World Series Champs 1758 01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,800 Speaker 1: on It's got the Atlanta enbow on its nest. Yeah 1759 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,680 Speaker 1: I be Nelly never sent you like a face band, No, 1760 01:44:48,320 --> 01:44:51,960 Speaker 1: I got a huge belt. You who your real friends are, 1761 01:44:52,280 --> 01:45:00,120 Speaker 1: right man? Thanks good thanks good m