WEBVTT - We Know Better Now Part 1 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:05.400 I won't lend my body out out everything that I'm made. 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.200 DOT won't spend my life trying to change. I'm learning 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:13.000 to love who I am. I get I'm strong, I 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.680 feel free, I know who every part of me. It's 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:24.319 beautiful and then will always out wait if you feel 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.200 it with your eyes in the air, She'll love to 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.120 the mood. I am there, say good day and did 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:37.640 you and die out? Welcome back everybody. This is my 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.200 first episode back after having a baby. I think, right, yeah, 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.239 it's been a minute, so I'm excited. Yes, to be 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:47.760 here with you and us doing an episode today. To 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.239 get there feels like old time, so I'm loving it. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.680 May I just say you look radiant? Oh thank you. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.560 I just scrubbed my face and your harror looks beautiful. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.280 I don't know if you have what the mom life 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:01.920 is like by I know you posted something on Instagram 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.399 the other day about you got your hair done and 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:07.720 if you know, some people associate that with guilty pleasure 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.840 and I loved that post so much, so I want 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.560 to encourage people to go to your Instagram after they 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.119 listen to this episode and read that post you put up. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.840 I think the photo is your beautiful hair. It's like 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.120 a you put up a few different photos, but you 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.839 can see your curly hair, and then you just gave 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.880 us permission to do things that satisfy us and make 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.720 us happy without feeling guilty about it. Yes, the idea 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.000 was we need to really think about the language that 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.560 we use, and the word guilty pleasure just never settled 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.720 right for me. And I don't know if you're like 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.080 asked this in interviews a lot, but people always ask me, like, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:44.200 what's your guilty pleasure, like looking for some confession that 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.080 like I eat cookies before dinner, like you know, silly 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.120 things like that. And sure, I might do something like that, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.040 but I don't feel guilty for the things that I 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.200 do that make me feel good. And I think that 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.960 as a culture, we're robbing ourselves of the potential to 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:03.200 feel really good when it's available to us by having 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.160 it kind of like warped under this idea that it 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.160 shouldn't feel good, like if it costs something, or if 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.880 it's like you know, reality TV, if it's not stimulating 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.680 our brain in a productive way. And yeah, I just 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.919 strongly believe that pleasures should be pleasuresome and we don't 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.600 need to attach guilt to anything that feels good, unless, 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.880 of course, you're committing a crime or killing somebody, but 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.880 obviously nobody hears doing that. Yes, okay, So at Lisa 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.519 Ham and that's h A y I am is where 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.040 y'all can see that post, and then Happy Saturday at 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.760 my fam. We're excited to bring you this episode, and 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:36.679 Lisa's going to explain what we're going to get into 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:39.120 because this was her idea, and I think that it 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.480 will be really helpful. It's something we're gonna do today 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:44.680 and then next Saturday will be this theme. So at 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:46.919 Lisa take it away. Yeah. So when I was driving 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.000 the other day, I've had a very few moments where 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.120 my brain is working, but I had this idea to 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.280 talk about a what we know Now episode, and I 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.799 recognize that it could be triggering to talk about what 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.280 we did then, but I think when we explain the 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.240 now and why we're doing it, it's going to really 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.399 be more helpful than it could be harmful, because when 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.840 we can really see how how small and limited our 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.880 minds were when we thought we were doing things for 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.280 a quote unquote health, and then compare them to what 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.160 we're actually doing now, we could really see a whole, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:20.760 big picture of health, and I think it's going to 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:24.000 help a lot of people recognize really normalized patterns of 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:29.519 behavior in our culture that are disordered and also contributing 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.720 to what I call mind body disconnection, which means not 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.480 honoring your needs because you think you need to eat 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.160 or work out in a certain way. So the concept 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.120 is we're gonna talk about what we did then and 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.920 what we do now and why we do it now 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.160 and why that's better. Right, So if you do any 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.200 of these things, don't feel bad. You're not alone this. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.000 There's no shame in doing this. You may just have 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.440 to hear why, why we know better now and why 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.360 we don't do it, and then sit with that. Hopefully 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.840 it will be helpful to you. And next time you 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.440 maybe catch yourself doing one of these things, if you 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.400 can relate to what we're gonna say, you might be like, oh, yeah, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.280 I remember Lisa and Amy saying this, and that'll help 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.160 you reset if you need to love it. So I'll 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.240 go first on this episode, and then Amy is going 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:17.000 to share with me the things that she did then 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.040 verse now. So the first one for me, I'm thirty 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:21.640 three years old, I grew up when like we used 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.320 to read real magazines and not just scroll on social media, 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.040 and one of the biggest things that used to say 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.000 on everything was to put your dressing on the side, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.040 Like that was the pro health tip, or don't use dressing. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:36.200 Either put your dressing on the side, or don't use dressing. 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:40.480 Either way, the message was dressing is bad. And so 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.880 all of us around the world we're eating dry, crunchy 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.680 salads that were hard to swallow and forcing them down 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.040 our throat, thinking that we hate salad, but we have 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.280 to eat it. Like this flash forward to now, not 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:59.360 only are many dressings full of healthy fat, nutrients and 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.560 satisfy ying components to them, but they can actually help 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:06.600 us eat more vegetables and eat more salad. And when 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.800 it comes to this conversation, I think it's important to 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:13.080 always ask yourself, if it doesn't feel good, don't do it. 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:16.400 And at the same time, if you want to eat 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.839 more vegetables, improve your digestion, feel bad or things like that, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.080 think about how you can do that and what you 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.839 can add to your plate versus takeaway. And I think 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:29.360 this mindset really contributed to this idea that healthy food 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.279 taste bad, that healthy food is painful to eat, that 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.640 it requires discipline, when in fact, my relationship now to 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.039 food with dressing is can I get more dressing? Or 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.280 please mix it all together. And it's just one of 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.560 those things that has allowed me to reconnect to foods 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.400 that I love and enjoy them and find satisfaction from 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.359 eating them. I don't know, Amy, did you? Were you 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:53.240 familiar with that one? Yes? I think satisfaction is key 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.560 and this is something I learned from you too, And 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:01.240 to be satisfied, you need to give your body what 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.440 it needs. And sometimes even the simple act of dressing 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.200 on the side or no dressing please, is a type 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.800 of restriction, and then you end up eating way more 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.040 than you would have eaten. And you maybe start with 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.000 the salad at least this was the case for me, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.040 and you would think, Okay, that's all I'm gonna eat. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:20.040 That's all I'm gonna eat. But because that there was 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.880 restriction there, then I ended up eating more things and 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:27.080 more things, and that led to more food consumption than 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.960 if I had eaten the meal as it was thought 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.719 up and prepared. And you know, whoever, if I'm at 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:35.599 a restaurant or was created that way, and I took 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.480 it in. I maybe would have been satisfied by eating 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.280 half the salad that day, who knows, or the whole thing, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:45.360 who cares. But because I created this you know, mind 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:47.599 game with oh dressing on the side, and I need 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.240 to just eat plaine, I mean plane romane. There have 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.240 been times where I've gone to a restaurant and so 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.599 many things didn't fit all the different boxes of what 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.560 I needed. That I was eating straight up romane and 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.680 that is it, and no wonder I was starving for 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.080 other things and it would lead to more consumption because 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.040 I thought I was doing what was good for my body. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.440 And really, had I taken it all in the way 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.040 the chef prepared it or why the restaurant had it 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.400 on the menu that way, I would have enjoyed it 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.640 and been more satisfied. And two caveats I just want 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:23.200 to say here is that I'm not saying that eating 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.960 more is bad not good. What we're saying is to 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.960 find a comfortable, peaceful place while you're eating, rather than 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:33.320 find yourself in what I amy, I could relate to 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.240 what you're saying to where like you're you eat you know, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.480 just the dry food and then you're in this like 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.800 disconnected place and all you can think about is more 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.040 and more food, whereas you can actually be present to 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.960 conversation when you're being satisfied with the meal, if that 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.200 makes sense right, And it's either you're at a restaurant 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:52.280 or you're at a friend's house. That's why I say 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.000 the way it was intended to be served to you. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:58.280 You're appreciating what is in front of you. Yeah, there's 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.000 something about it that is just way more satisfying mind, body, 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.440 and spirit. Like all the things. You're more satisfied, you're 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.720 more connected to it. And even now, if you want 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.040 to have dressing on the side, we're not faulting for that. There. 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:12.880 You might want dressing on the side because you want 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.120 to control how the same thing, but you want to 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.520 control it. That is okay, I still do that. Or 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.000 I'm like, I don't even know if I like this dressing. 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.640 I don't like this dressing. I don't want a soggy salad. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.760 There's a time and a place for that. But what 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.560 I'm talking about is a hard rule in attempt to 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:35.000 control calories. When we talk about dressing on the side, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.120 we are purely viewing health from a caloric standpoint, and 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.440 what we're missing is is that that dressing can help 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.560 us eat more nutrients, more minerals, more fiber, more of 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.320 that good stuff because we've minimized health down to calories. 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:52.319 Thank you for summing up my point as a whole. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.280 So that's just something to consider your The amount of 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:56.560 dressing that you want to use is totally up to you. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.360 But really it took me from that scarcity mindset of 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.880 oh I have to eat so little and control every 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.760 little calorie to oh my gosh, this helps me actually 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.920 eat more greens, more fiber, more nutrients, more minerals. How 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:11.000 awesome is that end? I'm satisfied, my needs are met. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.480 I'm not thinking about food all of the time and 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:22.120 on that constant chase love it. Okay, what is something 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.360 else that you now know more and do differently? So 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.720 I think a lot of us, especially during this holiday season, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:34.320 we're really focused on thinking that because we are eating 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.040 more holiday foods, that we need to burn it off. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.880 And I specifically remember this time of year being this 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.360 time where I wanted to like wake up extra early 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.200 so I could get that workout in so I could 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.839 quote unquote stay on track. Whatever that track was right. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.640 It was just it wasn't coming from a place that 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.480 I loved my body. It was coming from a place 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.880 that I'm fearful what my body will do if I 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.960 don't tame it. And I used to wake up really early, 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:02.040 like five am early to get that cardio work out 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.400 in or whatever it was at the time. And now 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.880 I understand how important sleep is for health. Health is 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.480 not food and fitness period. Health is our sleep, our 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.640 inner thoughts, our mental health, our well being, all of 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.160 those things. And recognizing that allows me to see how 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.600 important rest is for my physical body as wealth as 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.280 my brain health. And getting those extra hours might mean 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.960 missing a workout, but it means that my cortisol, my 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.760 stress hormone, is actually going to stay lower. Because when 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:36.240 we work out, when we're stressed, when we're tired, all 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.520 those things, cortisol jack's all the way up, and that 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.280 can totally deplete us. But allowing ourselves to rest and 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.280 restore can be the absolute best thing for us. Now, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.079 if you wake up at five am and you're feeling, oh, 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:49.920 my body wants to move and get a workout in 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:53.320 or or a flow, whatever feels good for you. Going 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.760 back to that idea that there's no hard rules, but 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.400 it's important to recognize that the rigidity of I have 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.160 to wake up early to get that workout isn't the 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.760 only way. Yeah, Like it's not oh, this is going 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.520 to be something that's adding to my overall well being. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.520 It's more of a stress marker of like, oh, I 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.840 have to get this done or my day is going 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.840 to be off for I'm gonna you know, it's a 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.240 punishment of sorts, or a way so that you can eat. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.360 There's a lot of different reasons why you might put 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.000 pressure on yourself to work out, but when yes, it's 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.760 a rigid rule, and I used to operate that same 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.520 exact way. I wouldn't maybe get to wake up early 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.319 because I did a morning show or I still do 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.080 a morning show, the Bobby Bone Show, So I might 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.199 sacrifice sleep at bedtime to get a workout in. And 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.880 what I could have been in bed an hour thirty 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.680 minutes earlier, which is probably what my body needed after 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.880 a long day, but it would be ten pm and 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.360 I'd be like, well, nope, I've got to check that 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.079 box or it's going to mess up my entire body. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:52.800 I think I came on your podcast last year, and 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.720 we talked about the glimphatic system and brain health, and 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.000 if we look at this idea that like the only 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.400 thing that matters with health is food and fit us, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.960 we really miss out on an opportunity to take care 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.120 of our total bodies and our major organs, like our brain. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.440 When we sleep, the glimphatic system kicks into gear and 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:13.520 all the toxins that we naturally accumulate leave through our body. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.920 But if we're not getting enough sleep, that junk is 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.920 kind of accumulating. And this was never part of the 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.559 conversation and health, and that's why I'm so passionate about 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:25.240 expanding out that viewpoint so that we can skip that 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.319 workout when we need rest, recognizing that we're actually still 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.439 taking really good care of our health even though we 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.400 didn't make it to the gym exactly. I love that one. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.719 What's another thing that you now you know better? This 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.200 is a huge one for me because it has helped 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.000 me with not just the mental pain but the physical 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.960 pain that was associated with my disordered eating. And it 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.000 was the idea that I can and should only eat 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.800 when I'm really really really really hungry, like starving, like 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.160 I would think that that was the proper time to 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.720 start a meal, and I push myself to that limit. 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.720 But what that did is it left me evenance. It 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:04.800 left me unable to decide what to eat in a 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:10.240 civilized manner and unable to find a comfortable full point 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.720 to a creative, chaotic eating every single time, and took 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:17.680 me from completely empty two stuffed every time, so that 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.839 physically being empty in my stomach hurt that starving feeling 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.400 where your stomach is like er. And then it took 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.200 me to painfully full where I'm like, I'm never eating again, 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.280 multiple times a day. And that's how I thought it 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:33.480 had to be. Compound that with the thoughts around food 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:35.439 of when will I get to eat next, When will 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.200 I get to eat next, to at the end of 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.560 that meal, being like I'm never eating again. I was 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:44.960 so consumed with food, either physical pain from it or 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.320 thoughts of it at all times, whereas now I actually 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.320 want to get ahead of that physical empty I just 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.640 want to eat when I'm a little bit hungry, physically 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.400 hungry speaking, so that I can be more intentional with 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.680 what I'm eating. What do I want right now? What 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.440 would make this more satisfying as opposed to like the 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.760 grand sweep that it used to be, and a lot 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.680 of people with disordered eating or eating disorders can relate, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.520 I think to the fact that your meals when you 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.640 are in that state are really weird. You might think 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.520 that they're good, but they're they're really weird, disconnected, random things, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.400 and it's because you're just like revenous to put it 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.880 all together, and everything tastes so good because you're so 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.080 hungry that you lose complete connection to your body. I 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.840 don't know, could you relate to like eating like really 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.680 weird things when you were Oh, yes, for sure, like it. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.840 It would always be I'm still grabbing for more. Would 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.720 be like I go to the fridge, eat something, go 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.160 to the pantry, eat something, sit down, eat something like 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.400 It would be like a thirty minute or longer or 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.440 deal of like okay, meal time, which if I had 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.160 been taking care of myself and eating properly throughout the day, 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.200 it could have been a ten fifteen minute thing, unless 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:54.880 it's like a dinner worm with people. But I'm just 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.320 using like lunch as an example. Or if I went 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.240 all morning long, all afternoon and then at two p um, 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.640 I'm like, okay, I need to eat and kids are 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.400 at school, husbands at work, like I happen to be home, 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.720 and yeah, it would be a much longer process than 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.680 it needed to be. That left me completely feeling gross 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.160 as I don't know that anybody. It always led to 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.400 the gross feeling. But you do. You feel full, you 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.200 feel icky, you have you feel regret, you feel shame 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:23.800 of like looking at like, oh my gosh, did I 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.160 really just eat all of those things? But there was 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.360 no satisfaction or I would go from salty to sweeten 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.640 and that that still happens to me to this day, 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.000 but I'm more aware of it and like okay, cool, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.600 and then I can go on like the amount of 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.800 times I used to think about food in a day, 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.280 and then I look at how I am now with it. 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:46.560 I have such relief And I don't share that to 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.040 brag in a way, because if I was old me 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:51.520 was in a place where some of you listening might be, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.560 where I still was obsessed with food and thinking about 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:55.480 all the time, I would be like, okay, yeah, you 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.280 way to go, like I'm still struggling. So I want 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.840 to say this with sensitivity, but I just want you 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.600 to know there is freedom and there is such hope 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.640 and like I am a I'm a success story. That 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.400 might be a weird way to say it, but that 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.320 it's possible because there was I'm sitting here listening to 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.400 Lisa talk and I'm like, oh gosh, there was a 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.120 time where food just had so much power over me. 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.440 And now it's like I've taken my power back, and 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:26.480 eating throughout the day and giving your body and your 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:30.240 brain what it needs and not starving it and waiting 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:33.080 for those hunger cues of like hello, because then your 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.680 brain doesn't trust you. It's like I can't trust this 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.320 person because she does not know how to eat, and 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.680 she just made me get straight up starving. So now 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.520 I'm going to eat meat meat because I don't know 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.680 when she's going to feed me again. And I also 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.400 want to flag what you said. You said you feel 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.280 like you got your power back, something I thought about yesterday. 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:53.160 It's a little tangential, But is this like idea of 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.640 food freedom everybody. It's been like plastered all over the 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.000 internet to the point where I think, if you see it, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.400 at least for me, I'm like almost rolling my eyes, 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.280 like food freedom, food for you, I don't know, just 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.240 for a long time. It's an important concept, don't get 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.439 me wrong. But what is underneath it is the important 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:10.960 concept that you amy hit the nail on the head 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.159 with food. Freedom is great, that's when you start to 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.400 feel freedom around what you can eat, when you can eat, 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.639 and how you can eat it. But underneath that is 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.400 getting your power back and your life back and creating 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:25.000 again what I call that mind body connection. So food 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.119 freedom is just the start, but what's underneath it is 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:31.040 you getting your life back, your brain space back, a 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:34.359 comfortability in your body back. And I don't mean comfortability 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.840 where you look in the mirror and say, wow, you 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.360 look amazing. I mean stopping from experiencing that place where 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.280 you're so painfully hungry, we're so painfully full, ending meals 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.040 at a place where you know you can have more 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.200 later and you feel really confident to stop then because 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.639 there is no hard stop time of when you're allowed 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.960 to eat and when you're not and to It's kind 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.320 of tie in the working out thing. I think sometimes 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.320 when we restrict and then we end up eating way 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.440 more and we don't feel good, then it's a cycle. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.640 It all feeds off of each other pun intended. I 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.159 feel like if I had those moments where maybe I 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.680 would have been fine without not working out that day, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.600 but the minute I went over that threshold and felt 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.399 gross and full and whatever, then it was like, all right, 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.040 now I gotta work out. I mean, I just ruined 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.399 that because I need to burn all of this because 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.639 this feeling doesn't feel good. So I feel like if 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:25.919 I work out, that will help me feel better. And 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.639 it's just this weird cycle, and you're you're creating a 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:33.080 negative relationship to exercise that way, because you're using it 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.960 solely as a tool to counteract what you quote unquote 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.600 did when the two are separate and can both be 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:42.440 good for you, But now we've made both of them 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.960 negative experiences exactly, why don't you share one more thing 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.760 that you now know better. The last one I'm going 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.560 to share today is thinking that bloating was bad and 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.159 that eating a salad would get rid of it. So 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.840 these are kind of two different points I want to 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.040 get into. But the first one is that bloating is 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.320 normal to some degree. Now, what you're experiencing is it 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:08.840 bloating or is its stomach distension After you eat a meal. 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.000 Your stomach is only about the size of a fist, 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.560 So I hold your fist up amy like that's like 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.480 less than a sandwich, right, So one sandwich in your 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.600 stomach and there's going to be some distension. There's a 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:23.640 digestive period that needs to happen. And so when for me, 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:27.080 when I was in this disordered state, I was body 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.800 checking all the time. So any time I passed a mirror, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:31.960 I was lifting up my shirt to see what my 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.480 abs or my stomach looked like, or this and that. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.920 And I was so hyper focused that I noticed really 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:42.640 subtle changes such as normal stomach distension and called it bloating. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.280 Now bloating if it is uncomfortable, if it is constant, 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:49.439 if it is giving you pain, that is a different story, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.560 and you should consult with your doctor to make sure 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.439 there are no g I things. However, I think in 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.560 our society we are really obsessed with our own bodies 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.760 to the point where we are over checking them and 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.960 finding things that are totally normal and labeling them as 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.359