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Speaker 2: I don't remember anything when the second engine shut down.

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Speaker 2: We were six thousand feet and I don't remember. The

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Speaker 2: not the luxury yeah today, right. I just remember them saying,

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Speaker 2: I think we might lose this one. And that was you.

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Speaker 2: I thought they were talking about me. No, it wasn't me,

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Speaker 2: it was it was the pilot that eventually died. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you don't want to gould and talk. And I

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Speaker 2: wrestling Wild that night and we're talking about the cafe,

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Speaker 2: Johnny Valentine and Tim woodswork the Woods walked out of it,

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Speaker 2: and by god, he went he went to this shirt.

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Speaker 2: The territory would have died. They'd all phoned out wearing

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Speaker 2: that playing together and and Wahoo. When Wahu came in,

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Speaker 2: they said, this is all. This is the woman that

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Speaker 2: he came in running and it scared him. But they

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Speaker 2: and I hit him with her nail put forty sitchens

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Speaker 2: in his head. Wow. So then they playing all that

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Speaker 2: the hospital was they called the conference. You're coming to

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Speaker 2: see what I was? Okay, laying on the metal table. It's

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Speaker 2: a boy, all right? You know he was right right?

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Speaker 2: Well he ran hard. I read on the where you

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Speaker 2: switched seats? Now that didn't that it happened? No, no,

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Speaker 2: what a matter of fact, yeah, I did want is wrong?

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Speaker 2: but Johnny Wander and Johnny is senior.

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Speaker 1: But had you not been, had you been in that seat,

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Speaker 2: Oh? Entirely? They pulled John. Well, John didn't have a

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Speaker 2: here right, he pulled his arms out of the dashboard. Wow,

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Speaker 2: like this, And of course the pilot ate the steering

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Speaker 2: on right. And you said the pilot ended up dying

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Speaker 2: a year later. So how was how severe was with John?

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Speaker 2: John paralyzed? They couldn't treat people in Wilmington. And by

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Speaker 2: the time that they flew him in a military plane,

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Speaker 2: he and Bob Bruggers to Houston. But by the time

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Speaker 2: they got there. But you know that kind of stuff

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Speaker 2: needs to be treated immediately. Yes, yes, you so, what

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Speaker 2: was what was your recovery? So how long I went?

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Speaker 2: I went from two fifty five to one? And they

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Speaker 2: first and first of all that said I wouldn't wrestle again.

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Speaker 2: And then six months later the doctor said there's something right,

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Speaker 2: like did the thought of not wrestling again ever cross

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Speaker 1: Was that the first and only time that the thought

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Speaker 1: there ever been any other injury or any other situation

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Speaker 2: No, that was a be everything else must fixable. Rotator

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Speaker 2: comes Jim Andrews Younger. Everybody knows that jim and right, yep,

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Speaker 2: yeah he Jimmy's to say every time I work on news,

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Speaker 1: So now you you survive that you come out. Nobody

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Speaker 1: Did you not did you feel different anything about you?

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Speaker 1: Did you change the way you wrestled? Did you change anything?

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Speaker 2: It just took me a long time to land on

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Speaker 2: my back. And I used to there's no payphone, no

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Speaker 2: the wool rip flair. Right, I'm going to the doctor

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Speaker 2: Johnson his Shrek and do this, he said, the only

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Speaker 1: But when you did, but when you when you failed,

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, that was actually I was okay with that.

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Speaker 2: He made me wrestle an hour every night in nineteen

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Speaker 2: I I took it. I was fine, but it's like

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Speaker 2: everything else, you gotta you gotta dry it out.

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Speaker 1: You lost weight, You took the insurance settlement. Do you say,

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Speaker 1: did you take the insurance settlement and bought a caddy?

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Speaker 2: Yep? Blew Coop Deville, Coop Deville. Yeah did did?

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Speaker 1: Did you need to get the caddy to be part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the road. You only comes there one time.

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Speaker 2: Why not pass behind a Cadillac? So did you did

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Speaker 1: So it's not like it is now because these guys

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Speaker 1: They don't do it like they like you guys did

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Speaker 2: But they're much more sophisticated. But they still work like

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Speaker 2: my daughter's schedules show wrestle one hundred and fifty five matches, right,

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Speaker 2: and then when you're on top. Now, the difference for

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Speaker 2: even in your day's off, you're doing media. You got

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Speaker 2: you're doing all day long, right radio. That's not like

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Speaker 1: So, because when you had you had to built, you

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Speaker 1: they weren't like what they are now. But you still,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you was wrestling twice on Sunday, twice

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I did. I didn't want one of

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Speaker 2: your well, actually three years but one year the most

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Speaker 2: And that never bothered me? But you didn't know any better.

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Speaker 1: No, do you think there's someone that wrestled more in

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Speaker 2: I doubt that, but I'm I'm pretty sure I wrestled.

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Speaker 2: Because here's my deal. I tell people this and they

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Speaker 2: just can't believe it. I was in Melbourne or in

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Speaker 2: flew to christ Church right, one hour, flew to Saint Louis,

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Speaker 2: one week in one week. So that's that's a lot

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Speaker 2: of twenty plus thousand miles. That's a lot of drinking.

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Speaker 1: You speak of your relationship with Harley, Harley was when

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Speaker 1: I was growing up.

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Speaker 2: He had the belt, he was the man. Harley Race

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Speaker 2: was the guy. Yeah, uh, I don't know. Did you

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Speaker 2: ever wrestle Nick Botwin? Yeah? Sure, one in one in

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Speaker 2: in Winnipeg and Nick was great too, But Harley Rays,

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Speaker 2: you're kind of guy. Yeah, so you believe. So Shannon

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Speaker 2: Ricky took Rogers gimmick to a whole new level.

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Speaker 1: So who you if give me your Mount Rushmore of wrestlers,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard, Duke, because I honestly I love the

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Speaker 2: old guy guy, But in a contemporary world it's Undertaker,

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Speaker 2: of all time. Really, yes, better than you yep yep,

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Speaker 2: not not talking, but in the ring yet. I gotta,

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Speaker 2: I gotta, I can't, I can't. You gotta give it

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Speaker 2: up to me. I knew that the day I came

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Speaker 2: I said why why? Why? Why? I okay?

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Speaker 1: So what was it like when you when your first

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Speaker 1: told it was so ridiculous because he's a mass amount

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Speaker 2: Now you just take me over the head, like he said, Buss,

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Speaker 2: just have a relax. You know what I would say?

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Speaker 2: I used to say, the Big Show, right, big show

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Speaker 2: That's how if it's too bad with no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: I would go with the Big Show. Sell your balls

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Speaker 2: He's my size, boom boom. I can actually work with him,

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Speaker 2: but when he's standing it up, not a chance, right,

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Speaker 2: blind him, He turned blindery when I polkim blind and

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Speaker 2: I walk away from me and anybody one hundred twenty

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Speaker 2: because if you just start to think of a logic, right,

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Speaker 2: athlete and he played basketball, which laws kate right, who

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Speaker 2: was Who's bigger Big Show? With andre Andre fivet? He

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Speaker 2: drinking one hundred and two cans of Fair six downtown

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Speaker 2: her in Charlotte, North Carolina, and Frank Vone drink fifty six.

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Speaker 2: That was the original manager.

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Speaker 1: I was really looking listening to his documentary and they

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Speaker 1: give him. And it's like, well, they said, well he

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Speaker 1: and Drake. I think they said two fifths of vodka

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Speaker 1: and it's like okay, and so they deduced two filths

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Speaker 1: out of a bar, that's not that's not normal.

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Speaker 2: Rick. Now, well, he the fact doesn't. A couple of

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Speaker 2: times he fell down, Well who got him up? Well,

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Speaker 2: they didn't know what happened. They they took him to

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Speaker 2: on top of Peeder Morales and he was caught between

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Speaker 2: the bed and Pedro couldn't get up underneath him. He

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Speaker 2: literally had they fought like it had, you know, five

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Speaker 2: hundred pounds on the top of yere right, and all

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Speaker 2: he was He just fall asleep. They just leave in

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Speaker 2: the lobby. So how do you how do you like?

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Andre, Rick's gonna win tonight or this guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna win because nobody can really beat him.

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Speaker 2: If he didn't want to lose, exactly, he didn't, so

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Speaker 2: was he was? He? And here is the thing, Harley

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Speaker 2: was a super lexm Yeah, and I would say, you go,

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Speaker 2: like a story. We're in greens for one time and

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Speaker 2: So what are some of your favorite locker room moments?

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Speaker 2: I did ask Jack if I could use it? Right?

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Speaker 2: Jack was great? Jack and Jerry Briscoll, Jack and Jerry

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Speaker 2: you think you've wrestled over your career? God, everybody, not

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember you wrestling from like you said,

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Speaker 2: Bond RASKI Baron Rask the Great? Yeah. Uh so how

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Speaker 1: What difficult was it to go from good guy to

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Speaker 2: It, rehabit I was. I hated being a good guy?

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Speaker 2: Did you I could? I don't have any I don't

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Speaker 2: I still be taking the bombers. I'm better. I'm much

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at you know, Andre the Giant

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Speaker 2: T the Rock, Rowdy Piper, Who's who? To name a few,

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Speaker 1: Our younger generations, Like I said, we go back and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a bit, that was a rivalry. I

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Speaker 2: broke him in the business. Yeah yeah, Tony the state

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Speaker 2: high school champion from Ronold, Virginia. So what what was

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Speaker 2: your favorite I've seen Tony close closed script right bench

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Speaker 2: Brench Princes five oh five for a reps. He was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Try to try, mister world. I think you want he

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Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I think maybe a couple of

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Speaker 2: years ago, I saw him still wrestling. Is he? Is

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Speaker 2: he your he's brought your age? Is he he's younger

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Speaker 2: than me? But I broke him in. He's following even

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Speaker 2: in the sixties on late sixties or men.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So what was your favorite match to be

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Speaker 1: that you remember this match.

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Speaker 2: Forever because they're bringing up only every year the either

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Speaker 2: the I Quit match or had with Terry Funk in

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Speaker 2: New York Class Champions, or the match with Steamboat or

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Speaker 2: first night I met Jim Harbaugh in eighty nine called

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Speaker 2: Shytown Rumble where I dropped the title of Steamboat.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, how do when you go into a match,

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Speaker 1: how did they decide like, Okay, Rick tonight, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose the bell.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Rick tonight, you're gonna keep the bell? How do

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Speaker 2: they come to that decision? From just ask you and

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Speaker 2: you do it? See that's why I'm when I'm sixteen champion,

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Speaker 2: I'm technically I have won the title twenty one times. Right,

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Speaker 2: you know I told you about about when we're in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand, right right, I'm wrestling Harley Hardy goes to me.

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Speaker 2: Let's yeah, I wish you could have met him. I

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Speaker 2: guess he let's do Ricardo Steve Occaron's every morning a

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Speaker 2: that wasn't what was playing, No, but he did called

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Speaker 2: it one am I gonna say? Ally raised and you

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Speaker 2: you pick her back up tomorrow and then we head

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Speaker 2: back to the States. I said, well we're now, I'll

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Speaker 2: get in trouble. He said, no, I don't know who's

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Speaker 2: gonna tell him here, and I'll tell riccard To He

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Speaker 2: said a word, I would come back and see him personally.

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Speaker 2: Sure enough they found out. So that's sixteen seventeen, right.

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Speaker 2: They had the same thing in Santa Domingo with Jack Venato,

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Speaker 2: give me the bell, I said, I don't want the bell,

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Speaker 2: keep it, want to go back and get it right.

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Speaker 2: And the same thing in the Islands were rough trinderdadded

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Speaker 1: Boy weapons. I mean to have the brass knuckle match.

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Speaker 1: You have barbed wire, thumb tags, bat sledge hammers. I mean, so,

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Speaker 1: how did how did you know to like the tape?

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Speaker 1: And sometimes they have the tape on the wrist and

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Speaker 1: you know, how did you how did you know?

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Speaker 2: I just warm mind in my finger. Some guys carry

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Speaker 2: in their mom I didn't like that. No, and that

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Speaker 2: guy's carried on the tape like that, right, I kept

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Speaker 2: that right there? You didn't you weren't scared that never,

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Speaker 2: but I couldn't. I got to the point where I

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Speaker 2: couldn't work with a really in an hour. Sometime when

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Speaker 2: you're wrestling the guy, they can't wrestle ten, it's like

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Speaker 2: it would be like eleven year old kid trying to

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Speaker 2: throw to you right with that thing. Who's a great corner?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah what corny corners? Now you got pantsil ten

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Speaker 2: you yeah you gottu sans yeah? Yeah right right, eleven

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Speaker 2: year old kids trying to know to you, right. I

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Speaker 2: wrestled guys like that for an hour. They abdominal stretch,

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Speaker 2: ain't getting it. Put the sleeper on n it. The

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Speaker 2: to get that. They didn't want to get beat. They

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Speaker 2: were their hometown arrow. Did have you ever? When was

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Speaker 2: the last time you wrestled the match and you didn't bleed?

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Speaker 2: I didn't, Yeah, oh I didn't. I didn't bleed it

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Speaker 2: they he got real real strict about that. As a

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Speaker 2: TV monitor when we were doing everything was with Mickey Rouric,

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Speaker 2: But twenty five that gumpany he didn't find me, but

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Speaker 2: he find Jericho twenty five grand wow. And Dave teeth

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Speaker 2: him one hundred and when Vince lays an you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know none of that. So guys don't

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Speaker 2: bleed anymore? No, A w laws it right, right, right,

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Speaker 2: But it's it's not it's not mandatory work. It's optional, right.

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Speaker 2: The worst injury that you've saw, it's just so fire,

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Speaker 2: you know. And that's and I know this is the

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Speaker 2: old school, but you grew up on old school. So

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Speaker 2: if you throw a guy into a cage match and

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Speaker 2: said man, and he doesn't bleed, right, how is that?

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Speaker 2: That's the phoniest part of it, all right. But in

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Speaker 2: the old days, when you when you what you like,

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Speaker 2: when you saw its bleeding, you couldn't wait to see it.

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Speaker 2: I see a guy get hit with a chair, I'm

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Speaker 2: expecting his head, yeah, exactly, it's supposed to, yes, So

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Speaker 2: that's why the head shots are all right, But those

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Speaker 1: What I mean, seeing you had a torn rope headed cuff,

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Speaker 1: tryp staples in your head, concussions, you never had hip

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Speaker 2: I've never had a concussion that I know. Really I

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Speaker 2: probably have, but I don't.

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Speaker 1: They probably they probably didn't call them concussions. Back you

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Speaker 1: got the bail rum, Yeah, yeah, exactly. So if Rick Flair,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna take you all

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Speaker 1: the way back, if you had to do it all

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Speaker 1: over again, what would you change?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I get that's a I get to

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Speaker 2: ask that question a lot. I don't know. I couldn't

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Speaker 2: answer I can give them, That is why am I getting?

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Speaker 2: Why am I looking of at seventy four could be

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Speaker 2: sitting here with you? That's how I look at it,

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Speaker 2: So you look at it so when they're obviously there's

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Speaker 2: things I've done wrong, right, but maybe I wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: here with you, right and seventy four? Who but seventy

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Speaker 2: four realer ext wrestle are sitting there with challenge? Are true?

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Speaker 2: You're the I mean, obviously you know the rock is

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Speaker 2: is right now, but it's of that old guard no,

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Speaker 2: but I mean I'm I answering a question. You Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't you? Don't you one of your wrestlers, does

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Speaker 2: Steve a the highest rated thing on his pan? I

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Speaker 2: would assume first take is I'm gonna kill that bad

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Speaker 2: dog bad harm? Why yesterday? The first three days of

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Speaker 2: the week with you guys are the best?

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Speaker 1: So was pay per view the game changing for wrestling?

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Speaker 1: So much money because that was when they first did

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Speaker 1: the WrestleMania.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that really really big money is but it's amazing

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Speaker 2: to me, and I'm sure you've thought about this too.

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Speaker 2: When they do Raw or SmackDown or a w S

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Speaker 2: or so ask whatever. To get the arenas even though

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Speaker 2: it's on TV. The arenas are so long, and I

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Speaker 2: can't imagine why anybody would want to sit and roll

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and forty right in the bleachers, right when

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Speaker 2: you could be home watching it on TV.

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Speaker 1: They want to say I was there, Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's just like a a in a in a football event,

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Speaker 1: or you know, you at the very very top. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but something special might happen and I can say I

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Speaker 1: was at that game.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that guy's playing the irup

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Speaker 2: on all that time. Think they enjoyed it. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: love it, Yeah, they love it. Yeah, they didn't realize

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Speaker 2: they go on Friday. That's I think early.

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Speaker 1: Some some go on Friday, but I think the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: went like on a Tuesday or wind. But a lot

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00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: of times they say, like, if you're not gonna go

427
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: over there for the whole week, it's just best to go,

428
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: you know, Friday, play early.

429
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: Sunday and yeah and hot tailor back. Yeah. So WrestleMania

430
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: is the super Bowl for wrestling. Yes, it's the top

431
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 2: of the top.

432
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: And if you're the last match, if you're the man,

433
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: that's how many those have you done? I've you've never

434
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: been in the rain event?

435
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: Why not? Well, you know, I'm not taking any way

436
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: away from me, but I was never really a big

437
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 2: star a w W E. That makes sense. Yeah, when

438
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 2: you talk about the big stars of w W, you're

439
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: talking about the Rocks, the Rock seeing a Hull, Undertaker,

440
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 2: hb K. I mean all those guys, and I was

441
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: a coal main event, I guess with Randy Savage, but

442
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: I didn't have never been. My daughter has been a

443
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 2: last I haven't, so she reminds me of that. But

444
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing. I mean, without you and those

445
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 2: old guards, there is no w w E. Yeah, but

446
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 2: don't don't want to say that too loud. They came

447
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: they came along after, you know, but I would I

448
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: was the main event for Tanna Stark. Do you know

449
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: what that is? Yeah? You know what?

450
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that that that I forget who. You

451
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: told me you were fighting in Puerto Rico and they

452
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: tried to give you the bell. You're like, nah, I

453
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: don't want to bail Santamingo. Yeah yeah, Jack Veernano, You're like, nah, nah,

454
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna ride at me. You know it's sitting in

455
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: the front row watching Elvert pooholes. Really yeah, first time

456
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: I saw over. I didn't know that at that time, right,

457
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, You're like, I don't want to bail.

458
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: He became an international hero when he beat me. Wow?

459
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 2: So how many times did that happen? So you I

460
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: remember you said something earlier.

461
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: You said like local promoters when their guy was fighting,

462
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: they wanted their guy to win.

463
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you accuetter that you're Ricked Clair. These guys

464
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: are not Rick Clair. And you was like, okay, cool.

465
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: They know that they wanted that going hour I didn't know.

466
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: What happened was that was the end of the champion.

467
00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: He is a champion? Duke grades right or he in

468
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 2: an hour? That was the rules? Are the rules similar now? No?

469
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: No hours are pretty It's hard with television and that

470
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: to put together. Yeah. Yeah, there are some guys that

471
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: can do it. They're few and far between because they're

472
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: not trained doing In all fairness, it's like you know,

473
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: you're you're trained to be a specialist at that. When

474
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: I first got the Bells, I thought I thought I

475
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: was the greatest. I found out about two weeks. I

476
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: didn't know ship. Seriously, I didn't know anything because what

477
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: comes along with because I was wrestling whil and guys

478
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: like that every day. All of a sudden, I'm in

479
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: Kansas City with Bob Brown. You know you always crack

480
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 2: on Kansas. I feel bad. But the Witchita in front

481
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: of two hundred people going to an hour? Who wow?

482
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: Is basically man the greatest wrestling promoter? Yes? What makes

483
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: him so good? Afraid of nothing? He just he used

484
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: to say to me, the only thing that I compete

485
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: with it and only only because of the brand name,

486
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 2: is Disney twelve Disney Right, he did I'd tell him,

487
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: how how do you aga? He didn't got to be

488
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: you know, I could talk to him, you know, we

489
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: really could relate once in a while, and I'd say,

490
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: how do you how do you you know, how do

491
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: you keep your game face on? Because he never lets

492
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: the game base out right said that. I got three

493
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: hundred people in the building here right now, they'll depending

494
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: on how he keep my game base on. He just

495
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: he's got You've got to say that, did you always have?

496
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 2: I mean, what's your relationship relationship with him?

497
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: Like?

498
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: Now? Well, I don't talk too much now, I'm actually

499
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm I saw him let wrestle any of last year.

500
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: I mean there's lots going on, not not no one.

501
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: It's not privileged information, right, So I just think he's

502
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: under the under the down right. I know taker went

503
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: to uh sorry to watch Fury with them because Tyson's

504
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: work force before him, Right, did you see that I did? Yeah?

505
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: You know Mike train that kid. Yeah he did, yeah, Mike, Yeah,

506
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: like me personally, I think in Ganu one me too,

507
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: I'm watching when you're kidding me, I'm biggie one. Yeah, right,

508
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: So do when when they have events like now paid

509
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: make a fortune for that, did they? Yeah? Wow, Well

510
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: he did a great mics in good shape. Yeah, I

511
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: just saw him the other day. Yeah, he runs every

512
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: day in like the Super Bowl America. Like the Super Bowl,

513
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: they'll bring the NFL to bring the best players. They'll

514
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: bring some of their greatest, the Lawrence Taylors, the Joe Montana,

515
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: the so Forth song. They'll bring those guys back. When

516
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: they have WrestleMania. Do they bring the older wrestlers, the

517
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: great older wrestlers back. M hmm. So it's still so

518
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: you still feel close to the game or to the

519
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: sport of wrestling. Oh, yeah, yeah, I feel I feel close.

520
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: I think some people are upsetting me now that I

521
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: went to work at AW I don't know why you

522
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: think that, I guess, and I'm sure you feel the

523
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: same way. If you're acknowledging and you think I've contributed

524
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: to the business right, and I know I have because

525
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: I hear it every day, you would think that they

526
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: would let me do whatever I want to do as

527
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: long as it doesn't affect them. I'm not gonna get

528
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: on TV and say, w A W is better. I'm

529
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: not doing something stupid. I'm just working. I don't what

530
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: to do. But they're mad, not mad, but they they

531
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: did something else tary off camera. Is it that you're bigger?

532
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, they got some, but they starts not you.

533
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I mean unless this was the Rock or one of

534
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: those guys. The guy's not you, you Rick those guys

535
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: that's wrestling. Now you're you're you know, everybody knows who

536
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: you are. I mean, you're in songs and everybody like man,

537
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: that's not the nature boy. Everybody can't have that.

538
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: I know you you people be a graduated that you

539
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: don't know. But you know they were saying that you

540
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: want to hear someone doing good but not too good

541
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: or not better than me, better than that makes sense? Yes, oh,

542
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: I forgot.

543
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Some of the guys that also played Luger played football, Goldberg,

544
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Brock Leslar Roman.

545
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: Reigns ye ye Brock almost made the Vikings. Yes, and

546
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: had it hadn't played hadn't played that football since high school? Right,

547
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: he's a big command What football player did you think

548
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: could be a professional wrestler? Now? Well he did? You

549
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: know he did? Did the DJ have a job? Lt

550
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: wrestled now? Yeah, bam bam bigelo Yeah LTZ just a

551
00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: different cat. I mean Jesus Rodman wrestled. Dennis said, yeahs good.

552
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: You think the white how would be a good wrestler. No,

553
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: I didn't get too lanky lanky, yeah, and you know,

554
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how his knees are and all that,

555
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: so it's just stop and the starting. And I love Dwight,

556
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: but I don't think I think I heard he's trying

557
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: to get into the n XT too, But yeah, I

558
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: don't know. I think it's a little bit too late.

559
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: It takes a while to learn your craft, right.

560
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: And maybe you need to be You need to be

561
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: really young to take those falls. As you get older,

562
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: falls hurt more.

563
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it takes a long time. It's like you

564
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: are saying, is time off is your worst enemy? Right?

565
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: So that's why Is that why guys rushed back so

566
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: soon from injuries and things like that to wrestle, because

567
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: you said time off is the injury.

568
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of your skin, yeah, matt burns

569
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. No, I think that they they're

570
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: very conscious of people coming back too early because you know,

571
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: the when you tear attendant and stuff like that. And

572
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: look look at this poor thing. I mean, I've never

573
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: met him personally. But when I heard that, uh watched

574
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: him played that whole game with that shoulder. Yeah, that's

575
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: pretty courageous. Yeah, a lot of guys would walk off.

576
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at uh, celebrity guys. This's this wrestle, Mike Tyson,

577
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: mister t Snoop Dogg, Shack.

578
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Shock did a good job? He did? Yeah,

579
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: he did Mayweather grunt. Yeah.

580
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, and now you see Logan Paul and Pat McAfee. Yeah,

581
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: what do you think about Logan Paul? You think you're

582
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: doing a good job.

583
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: He's doing a real good job. Yeah, he's he's better

584
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: than some of the guys him doing it. But I

585
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: didn't know that Sean Michaels was training him personally so

586
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: that he ain't trying afraid to do anything right and

587
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 2: some of that stuff he does, forgot who hasn't done

588
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: it in his own life? Yeah, I love it.

589
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: So what's what's it like? I mean, because you know

590
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned Laws Taylor. He's a friend of yours, Pete Rose,

591
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, Yeah, real good friend.

592
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's it like?

593
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Because Rick, I mean, that's I mean, you're one of

594
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: the few wrestlers that have celebrities outside of your sport

595
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: that embrace you.

596
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: Football players and actors, actresses.

597
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Uh, like I said, rappers, baseball players, they hang with

598
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: the nature boy.

599
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Charlie. Frankly, he just asked me, anyone

600
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: I need to go to the who is in town?

601
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: I can't remember anyway to a concert in Atlanta? But

602
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: we were in Florida right now. How he's got you know,

603
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: the owners are a suite in the Ritz. Yeah, in Atlanta, sweet, so.

604
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 1: He stays down there. Now it's just still a traveling

605
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: back and forth because you gotta play something in Philly

606
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: and in Arizona.

607
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

608
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: You wrestle fifty years and Tom Brady played twenty three years.

609
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: Lebron is now in year twenty one. What is.

610
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: That allows you to wrestle as long as you did

611
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: at the level of whatch you did, and guys like

612
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Lebron to play as long.

613
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: As they have at the level they have. Well, for Lebron,

614
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 2: I think it's just number one. He's got an unusual gift.

615
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: But he also trains like a madman. I don't know.

616
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: I just think that Tom Brady, you know, for that

617
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: mild manner demeanor, and that I've heard that. I've heard

618
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: that he's a brutally fierce competitor. Yes, I mean, he's

619
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: not afraid to scream at somebody. But you don't see

620
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: that when all you see is this incredibly handsome guy.

621
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: You know.

622
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: But I've heard that he just pushed himself and he

623
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: expects you of us. You other guy, I know if

624
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: he drops the ball, you know what I mean?

625
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: When you kept wrestling and people were saying, man, Rick,

626
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: is he tarnished in his legacy?

627
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: Man, he needs to just go out on man. When

628
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: you hear that, I know, I want to say when

629
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: I hear it next time. I just was untied the

630
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: Sharp show. Where were you? But you didn't feel like

631
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: it's your legacy.

632
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: You felt you should be able to wrestle as long

633
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: as you wanted to wrestle, considering your contributions, you should

634
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: be able to like.

635
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: Hey, but I wanted to do right. And then once again,

636
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 2: if you could do it, you would too, right and

637
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: not you the other people. Yeah.

638
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, the match sewn Michael wrestled Man in twenty four.

639
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: In two thousand and eight, it was praised as the

640
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: match of the decades. Is that when you actually wrestled him.

641
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: Is that when you realized just how great he was

642
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: or you knew No.

643
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: I knew how Grady was before that. I had no

644
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: self confidence back then, and he's the first guy ever

645
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: not even highly raised it to me. He said, just

646
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: shut up and listen to me out there, and then

647
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 2: he said he look at me, and we'll call it

648
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: gorilla in front of the old places, sold out, shut

649
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: up and listened to me, and uht to see. I

650
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: could have gone on. They offered me to beeting ma

651
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: An event Sean it there, but I said it's gotta

652
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: be the world title. So I missed that one opportunity

653
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: that I mean, Vincent. Vince has treated me like gold,

654
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: I mean anyway, and he just he worked for both

655
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: of us. He did all my spots. He took a

656
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 2: slam off the top and I was dying. Wow.

657
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: How did your wrestling career impact your kids? In your

658
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: relationship with your kids in Korea? No, your kids your

659
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: wrestling career, because you said you have been I.

660
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: Never saw them, and I never expected when I got

661
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: to Borus, I never expected Leslie to move to Minneapolis,

662
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: so one place n W didn't go. So I think

663
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: I only got to see him in the summer for

664
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: a month. Did they Did they hold that against you?

665
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: I think it is in it, but I'm just so

666
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 2: I was so close to both my daughters. It's you know,

667
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: you look at life at the end of the day

668
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: and you go, this is an under saying that we say, Well,

669
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: when you're fifty, if you have five friends, you're lucky. Right, Right,

670
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: I'm seventy four, I've got ten I just made I mean,

671
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: I got fifty and I just made another one today, right,

672
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: And I'll be texting every time I see him. How

673
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: that guy, thank your.

674
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: Daughter said, instead of time, he would bring me back

675
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: like sixteen twenty cabbage batch kids at a time. Yeah,

676
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: because you understood what it was going to take to

677
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: get for them to live the type of lifestyle.

678
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: Kids don't understand it.

679
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: Kids don't understand like, but they have no sense of

680
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: money and what it takes to go to those private

681
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: schools and to get whatever they want to get. You

682
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: understood it. They want time, And I think now as

683
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: they're much older, they understood what you would do.

684
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. So do do your daughters have kids in their own?

685
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: My oldest one does one? Not yet? Yeah, she's right.

686
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: She's right in the peak of her career, so you

687
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: know one of them, Well, I don't. I think she's trying.

688
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: But she's so damn good at what she does. I

689
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: mean you've seen her, right, did you think that's what she?

690
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: How did when did when did she tell you? Just

691
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: like dad, I want to wrestle. She never even thought

692
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 2: she do, never even watched them me and she came

693
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: to see me, But she had watched wrestling. You've been

694
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: watching gras anatomy or you watch another things, all that stuff, right,

695
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 2: And uh, but we were in Miami for the Hall

696
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: of Fame and one of the guys that worked in

697
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: the office look at and Sai, why don't you, why

698
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: don't you, why aren't you in the wrestling business? Because

699
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: she had a world class athlete, and uh, she looked

700
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: at me that I don't know. And then she got

701
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: up and walked away, and I just I watched her

702
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: walk around the room. I knew what's coming next. She

703
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: walked over and sat down next to me. Daddy think

704
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: I could do that? And my exact words, drum, I said,

705
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure you could, but why do you want to? Right?

706
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: And in June, she was in Tampa well that was

707
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: April and July.

708
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: She was in Tampa raw but so but you never

709
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: tried to push, you not to try to sway them,

710
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: either to do it or not to do them. No,

711
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: that was going to be their decision and whatever they decided.

712
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: And your son's death, yeah, she she she actually fulfilled

713
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: his dream. That's kind of our You found him, You

714
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: found your son, correct, yes, so, because he was going

715
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: to be the rest, but he was going to follow

716
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: daddy's foot steps.

717
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: He was going to take on the flair lineage and

718
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: keep this thing going. How did that impact your rate?

719
00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: Kills me? Did you know he was dealing with these demons?

720
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: He'd been in life support four other times? Oh man

721
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 2: four at the time you try to get him help.

722
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 2: Stays clean for ten ten rehab centers nine or ten,

723
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: but I think it's ten. But herefore were from Phoenix

724
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 2: to Colorado. One time he lost complete complete. Yeah, he

725
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: used up his right leg. That's a right to center

726
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: of Colorado where he's mountain climbing, and you know, we

727
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: episoded the last time before he died. His auction level,

728
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: you know, the thing's to put every right was at

729
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 2: forty two. The doctor called me and said, when I

730
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: call the minister when he wakes up, he'll be brand

731
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: dead if he makes it, I said, And I went

732
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: in the room and I went and told everybody he

733
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 2: woke up, nothing wrong. Wow. The doctor will dot me

734
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: is an Indian doctor, right from India. I mean the Indian.

735
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 2: He goes, you just saw you just saw a miracle.

736
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: I have never seen that. Because your action level just

737
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: can't be that low low for twenty four hours. He

738
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: can't be that low for five hours. Wow, that's the

739
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: guy's honest truth. So I was so upset with him

740
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 2: because he wasn't drinking, but we found pills. I'm just glad.

741
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 2: I opened the door. I went and met my daughter

742
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: and I said, I'm just gonna leave read home. And

743
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 2: I went and opened the door. And it's like the

744
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: same thing I've seen him in Purple. And they come

745
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 2: and shoot him an ark on and the same cops,

746
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: same fire crew women in Charlotte's a small town, and

747
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: they came and at out in the hall and the

748
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: guy said, he say, didn't make it. I walked across

749
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: the street to the bar because I got done truth,

750
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: and I just drank for five years.

751
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: You blame yourself. Ye, why because you don't think you

752
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: were a father, you were more of a friend. Yes,

753
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: what could you have done differently? Rickon, I don't know.

754
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: I traveled the world will I took it you fan

755
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: in Europe, we traveled together, and I don't know. I

756
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: don't know what different except you know that's one of.

757
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: The So it's so easy for these doctors to say

758
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: you got to let them bottom out, kick them to

759
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: the curb, right, And I just could not know. You

760
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: could not could not know, we're not that wasn't there

761
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 2: because I kicked him out. Then I can't imagine how

762
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: someone feel in that situation. You know, you're not welcome,

763
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: can't come home, get you're kicked out and the next day,

764
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what's words.

765
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: You never turned your back on him, never, I mean,

766
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: but that has to make you feel good. You were

767
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: fighting for you were fighting for him to the very end.

768
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you find out that heroine is not it's

769
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: not an addiction to disease. But he was doing so

770
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 2: good and he just come back to come back from Japan.

771
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: I brought him back to take him to WrestleMania to

772
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: watch Ashley debut, and we were leaving, and we were leaving,

773
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 2: and I got them two gigs that weekend before us

774
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 2: on Anium for fifteen hundred dollars a night to wrestle.

775
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: Makes some money while I was here. That was it.

776
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: How's your help grade?

777
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean you you your kidneys failed, you placed in

778
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: the medically induced coma, and you told us earlier they had.

779
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: For six months. You didn't remember anything back back, nothing,

780
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: But you're good. But you're good now you're helped. There's

781
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: a horse. So what's it like to be a grandfather?

782
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: You say you have grandkids? Now? Yeah, I only get

783
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: to see the one a lot. The other ones are

784
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. My oldest granddaughter's travelers. She's in she comes

785
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: to visit, and she's a sophomore at at Alabama. Right,

786
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: all places?

787
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: Marriage? You believe in marriage, not dating. You're like, hey,

788
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: I met your beautiful wife.

789
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 2: When dare you lost a lot of money through divorces though? Rick? Yeah?

790
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: And attorneys editorney yeah, and rs you gotta put yeah

791
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: when the wives, when the wives won't sign, the won't

792
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 2: sign their returns and then they get away with it.

793
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: What can you do?

794
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: Are you you interested in having any more kids? I

795
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: see Robert and narrow Appucino and they're older than you.

796
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: When when they Wendy gave us to sign off camera like, yeah,

797
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: when these kids are my kids? Yeah, by her personage,

798
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: I've been with them for thirteen years now. Wow.

799
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: So what sports? What's your favorite outside of wrestling? What's

800
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: your favorite sport to watch?

801
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh? NFL football? Who's your favorite player? My favorite player

802
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: right now in the league Aaron Rodgers. I love Aeron.

803
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: I hope he comes back. I mean, I hope the

804
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: Jets can come back. I don't want to see him

805
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: get hurt. You, but I just I can't get over

806
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 2: the way he has that quick release. He didn't have it,

807
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: and I mean it's accurate and strong. I guess my

808
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: favorite player right now. I love Travis Kelsey. I like that.

809
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: I've never Matt Patrick went home, but Matt Travis. I'm

810
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 2: really I'm really happy for the two kid. Yeah. Yeah,

811
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 2: because last year that was just horrible. When he's having

812
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: the hell of a year. Yeah, he's having a lot

813
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: of parody in the league. The game, that game that that,

814
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: it's a big game, big game. Yeah. So who's gonna

815
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl? Who's going to win? You played

816
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: for the Ravens. Right, I played for the Ravens. Won

817
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl in two thousands with John No no,

818
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: all about with Brian Bellikip he was in Minnesota. Yes, yes, yes,

819
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: ye who you got winning the Super Bowl? Well, just

820
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: because it's so damn entertaining. I hope Dallas gets beat.

821
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: Oh you want to get because Steve. If Dallas win

822
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, Steven, they gonna have to take off

823
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: for like a month. I know he won't fill out

824
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: the TV. You won't let him. I'll visit to that

825
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: chair the course. Yeah no, but it's so entertaining. I

826
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: mean I look for that and it's and he so

827
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: he's got a gift. He's got a gift and he

828
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: can give it and take it. So I like Philadelphia.

829
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: I'm really happy. I'm really happy for that kids from

830
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: Hurts the other way to transfer to Oklahoma. All out,

831
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: he's really playing well, he's playing. It was a bad

832
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: will Yep. I don't know. I just I love the event. Yes,

833
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't have a favorite this year.

834
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: Really, what football player basketball player? Is like Rick Flair?

835
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: If you had to say, who embodies your personality?

836
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: Well, he's really slow down a lot now by the

837
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: ltd LT when he had that. Yeah, with him the

838
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: three m n LT is he came to Senior wrestle

839
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: in the Middle Lands. He is bribing that blue jag

840
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: wire one way and he went together. The next day

841
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: he had three sacks. It was over four o'clock in

842
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: the morning and he had three sacks. Oh, he's unbelievable

843
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 2: this story. Yeah, Lebron, you love Lebron. I do Jordan

844
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: and Lebron. Best player? Who you got? I got Lebron. Yeah,

845
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what else he can do. Wow. And

846
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I'm not sure if you were

847
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: a part of that debate or not. When he said that,

848
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 2: everybody's already saying that Miami made his career. I don't.

849
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't know necessarily think I think wherever he would

850
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: have gone. I mean, you look at him now, Ian

851
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: he he defies everything. Yeah.

852
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: I think the thing is is that individually, but I

853
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna look at him the same individually

854
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have those championships.

855
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: For sure. I know that's that was my argument. People

856
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: are like saying, oh, you try to say he's going up.

857
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying we're not looking at him through the

858
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: same lens because he has two regular season MVPs and

859
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: two finals MVPs. You can't say, well, if he went

860
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: he went to Miami for a reason. There was a

861
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: very specific reason that he went to Miami. Yeah, so no, yeah,

862
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: I do believe individually, but I don't think we're gonna

863
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: look at him through the same lens as we look

864
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: at him now.

865
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well I don't know. I mean, it's just

866
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: it's just unbelievable. I mean, I love myel Jordan, who

867
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: doesn't right right? And Barry you're talking that that documentary

868
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: that did the Last Dance. Yeah, he was intense, yes, yes, yeah,

869
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: I'm real close to Dentis. Yeah, that was a phenomenon

870
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: and I really enjoyed that. But he's intense to guy too,

871
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: Mike Go Go didn't mind screaming. Yeah, yeah, I don't

872
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: see that, Ron. I don't see lebron and screaming a guy. Nah,

873
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 2: he's not. That's that's not the way he leads.

874
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: Not to say there's something wrong with someone else leading

875
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, but that's just not the way he

876
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: choose the lead. There's a video of Mike Sean Michael

877
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: telling you I love you before kicking you that memos?

878
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: So have you seen it? Yes? How would Rick Flair

879
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: have done in the seventies, eighties, and nineties with social media?

880
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: You'll be over in San Quentin doing an interview. Isn't

881
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: San Quentin, California? Yeah? You kidding? You are? You've heard

882
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: the stories? What does it mean to be in the

883
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?

884
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: And many say you're the greatest wrestler of all time,

885
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: not just because of the longevity, but because of what

886
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: you meant to the sport, the way you carry the sport,

887
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: the way the the way people when they think of wrestling,

888
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: they're not going to be but to have if there're

889
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: any gonna get mentioned before yours, what does that.

890
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: Mean to you? It means a lot of And being

891
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: knuck in the Hall of Fame was was you know

892
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: the story? I talked for like forty five minutes and

893
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I decided to thank everybody in my life.

894
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: My career has been so long, right, and I left

895
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: some people out, I mean, but I was trying to

896
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: get everybody in and I ended up it never never,

897
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: It was wonderful. It was tremendous. I mean, the Hall

898
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: of Fame is you know well. I mean it was

899
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: sold out and it was the first time I ever

900
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: went to a big venue and you know, you don't

901
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: want to expect because it was a town. I wrestled them,

902
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: but I didn't know what the crowd it would be.

903
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: It was like the whole weekend was magical. And then

904
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: the next day they did that tribute to me and

905
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: if I left, I went on a cruise and I

906
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: was lost. Wow. On Tuesday, I was lost, no where

907
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 2: to go to. No one asked about the ratings. You know,

908
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: it works right, like I'm back into business now right right,

909
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: and every segment I'm on right like I did my

910
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: whole career. You can't wait till five o'clock until the

911
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: rating comes out. And what your SEGM did your quarter hour? Right?

912
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: That's important. Yeah, it's what we look for. We pride

913
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: ourselves on that.

914
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Speaker 1: Rick, thank you for giving me some of your time.

915
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you an honor. I love you on

916
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: Club shack Shaye, Thank you, sir, nature boy, Rick Clair,

917
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: thank you.

918
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back

919
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: the price, Wanta Slice, got the brother to swap all

920
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 3: my life.

921
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life, all my life.

922
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: Been grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, back the price,

923
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 3: want to slice, got the brother swap all my life.

924
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life.