1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, next flowing down the sidelines. 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 3: He's hanging with the boys. Now Your hosts. 5 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Shannon. 6 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 4: Thursday, Thursday, opening day of baseball season, Kurt's favorite day 7 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: of there. Here are looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza 8 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 4: outside Ford Center at the Star Frisco, Texas, where it 9 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: is beautiful eighty one degrees, the high is eighty seven, 10 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: the low is sixty six. 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 5: It is beautiful. That is Shannon's there is Nate. We 12 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 5: got Chris in the back. I am Kurt filling in 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 5: for Salt and Pepper, Poppy. Jesse's taking a breather together. 14 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 5: We are the sports talk equivalent of Braille people, when 15 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 5: we speak. 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: To you each and every show. Well, you know what 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 4: wing stops here, it's here. I had a little memory 18 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: laps to what's going on here today. Rose is all 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 4: out of whack and one up when we don't have 20 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: the whole crew. So how you guys do it? 21 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm doing great, man, I'm doing I'm doing you know what, Kurt, 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: I just left Colorado, So I'm doing great. 23 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: Oh wow, visit with Prime. 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, just left it like this morning. 25 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 7: Two day. 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: I left Monday and got there Monday night and practice tuesdays. 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 2: Jump back in the truck, got here Tuesday night, got 28 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: back late Tuesday night. 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 7: Charles Hayley had. 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: His Tackle for Life I think is where he helped 31 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: kids and stuff. Had a little gambling deal down here 32 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: at the training table yesterday. So I've been having fun. 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 8: Bro. 34 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 5: So very nice. You get up there and talk to 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: the kids in Colorado. You just hang out with pro. 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 7: You know. 37 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: I I worked a little bit with the offensive line, 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: you know, just a little bit. Kids are a little 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: bit different now they You know, brother, Ben your knees 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: is not a discussion why you can't. If you can't 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: Ben your knees, why are you here? 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 7: Brother? Stay Low? 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: I don't okay, you hit your elbow. That happens in football, 44 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: Stay Low. I mean, it's at debate with everything, but 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: I like how you are cheering me on. I'm like, 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: I ain't fin the debate that I'm not cheering you on. 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 2: I want to say you sun them. You know, that's 48 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: what I really want to say, but you can't talk 49 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: to the babies. 50 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 5: Like that now, m They need you up there cracking 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: that whip. 52 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Brother, George Hangeman is cracking the whip. He's cracking the whip. 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: They got, Oh what's up Andre? He played center for us. 54 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: He's up there trying to crack the whip. But the 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: money makes a difference, y'all want to The money makes 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 2: a difference, and parenting is less because money is set 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: in the households. You know, your kid make one hundred thousand, 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: You and your husband together couldn't make sixty thousand. So 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: guess who wins when? It should never be that way. 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: It shouldn't never be that way. You know, you show 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: this kid how to save money, You show this kid 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: how to invest his money. You don't go up there 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: and party with your kid. You don't go up there 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: and live with your kid. That where he would have 65 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: had a one bedroom apartment, now he got a two 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 2: and a half bedroom apartment. 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 7: I mean, and this is not it just at Colorado. 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: It's at every college that has extra money to give 69 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: to the kids. 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 7: This is at every college. 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: These coaches are fighting with one hand behind their back. 72 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: I'm telling you every coach is fighting this now the 73 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: power fives I mean, I mean the true power that 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: Texas is the Michigans, the Ohio States, the Georgia's. They 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: still got somewhat control LSU talk Prime and lost. They 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: left tackle the l s U. The one serious offensive 77 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: lineman they had that was established. He going to l 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: s U, you know, for nice little chunk of change. 79 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: I think when they told me how much they paid him, 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: I said, can I move in with him too? 81 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 6: Now I know a personal coach? 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, what's concerning I guess to me, you know. 83 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 6: Having a five year old. 84 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 4: I went and had lunch with somebody the other day 85 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: that has has a couple of kids that are high 86 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: school about to get ready for college, and they've entered 87 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: this AAU basketball world. One of their sons and he 88 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: was and he's really good. He's I think a freshman, 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: but he's playing up to a varsity level. 90 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 6: And then they have these circuits, right, sneaker circuit and 91 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 6: all this sort of stuff. And then but what's happening is. 92 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 4: It's becoming a business for the like what you said, 93 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 4: very much for the pen already we were where but 94 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, I think my kid might be able 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 4: to play college with all these nil deals. So I'm 96 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: going to go cash in my four oh one k 97 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: and I'm going to get them a personal coach, personal 98 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: training that you used to didn't get until you got 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 4: already had the money right whether when that was I'm 100 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 4: going pro, I got, I got an agent that's going 101 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: to back me until I get my first paycheck. Now 102 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: they're investing in these kids like it's an I think 103 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: my kid might make it. So, like you said, you 104 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 4: got a couple of parents that are making YO sixty 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 4: thousand dollars a year combined. They're taking their life savings 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: and putting it in these junior high kids because they 107 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: think they might have the talent, and they're rolling the 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: dice and and you know how that is. Ninety nine 109 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: percent of these kids don't even make it to the 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: college level, much less the pro level. But they're getting 111 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: paid pro money in college now, so it's worth the. 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 6: Gamble and get it well for them in their mind. 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 4: But then it turns them into jerks because they're so invested. 114 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: It takes the fun out of the sport for the kid. 115 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: It's a business at a twelve year old age where 116 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 4: used to just do it for fun, and then if 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 4: you had the athletic talent, it's changing everything and it's 118 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 4: I don't think this is fun. 119 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 5: Youth sports is a mess right now. 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I can't even imagine the college kids that 121 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 4: are already getting the money. 122 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, parents, you can write in, call in, 123 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. You can text in, you can 124 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: get whatever you want. That is dumb. Dum capital BB. 125 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: That is dumb. That is dumb because when this kid 126 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: don't make it, what are you gonna do. You're gonna 127 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: look at your baby, who had nothing to do with your. 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 7: Decision, and start looking at him in a different light. 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: You taking a baby that's fourteen, ten, maybe ten years old, 130 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: twelve years old, and you turn him into an investment, 131 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: so you look at him a whole different way. And 132 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: your kid, let's say he make it to college and 133 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: he gets a two million dollar deal for one year, 134 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: and then all of. 135 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 7: A sudden, he looks at you and say you need 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 7: to do this, and you need to do that, and. 137 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: You try to stop him and say, hold on, I'm mama, 138 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: I'm daddy, and I did don't matter. 139 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 7: You created this monster. You create, don't ever stop being 140 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 7: a parent. 141 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I was no great parent, because 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: if it wasn't at out Darth Newton, my ex wife, 143 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: my kids probably wantn't be the men that they are today. 144 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: So I'm not saying, but somebody in the household, grandmama, uncle, aunt, 145 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: somebody got to step up and say, y'all doing this wrong. 146 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: Somebody better step up. How y'all doing there? Go some babies? Yeah, 147 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: y'all should be in school. I'm trying to tell you 148 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: the right get this break break you know, screen break 149 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: over with. 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 7: Well, different schools have times, different guy, they don't wave 151 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 7: at me. Your kids need to be. 152 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: But nah, that that hurts me when I see kids. 153 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you something to be debated. Son, if 154 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: you don't bend your knees, this guy gonna run around 155 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: you and you won't begin in getting into playing time. 156 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 7: If you don't understand that you have a. 157 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: Down block and you got to get down there in 158 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: a hurry because your soner gotta leave and you and 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: you half doing it that you're running back gonna get 160 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: knocked for a lot. And when it's just everything was 161 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: for a debate. And so when I talked to Prime, 162 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: I said Prime, I know half your team is new, 163 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: but these babies got to get in shape. 164 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 7: When you let me break this down simple, we got time. 165 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, when you are. 166 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Not a Alabama or Texas, a Michigan, are now Indiana 167 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: or you know, when you don't have the money and 168 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: the power in backing that these. 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 7: Real power five schools happen. Two things have to happen. 170 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: You have to be in shape, and you have to 171 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: know totally what's going on within the offense, defensive, special team. 172 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: You have to be submerged in it because your athletic 173 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: skill overall cannot cannot cover you. If you're supposed to 174 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: be cover two deep safety, you can't walk up an 175 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: extra five yards because your athletic skill is not good 176 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: enough to get you back deep. When this guy take 177 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 2: off from Alabama a Texas going on a skinny post 178 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you say, oh, it's over 179 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 2: for you. Whereas for the better athlete, he's got a chance. 180 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: So that's what I'm looking at, and I'm saying, baby, 181 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: you got to be better. You have to be in shape. 182 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: That's your edge. Your edge is I'm gonna be in 183 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: better shape than you, and I'm gonna know one hundred 184 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: percent where I need to be and how I need 185 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: to do it if I'm gonna compete on this next level. 186 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: And now I'm not talking about pro I'm talking about 187 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: when you run into a Texas team. Are you running 188 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: to a Kansas team or Georgia Tech team that's well coached. 189 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 7: Everybody's in shape. 190 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: And on the same page, Errents, your kids have to 191 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 2: be in shape in this competitive world where one year 192 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: you making a million, you fall off a cliff because 193 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: it every year is ten kids leave Texas because Texas 194 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: done gave him five hundred thousand dollars off the drop 195 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: that your kid fell off the cliff. Now he's calling 196 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: a Colorado, he's calling a North Texas, he's calling TCU 197 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: trying to get in and they looking at film like 198 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: what happened here? And then the next answer, well how 199 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: this happened? This happened is they said, okay, what's your 200 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: asking price? Well, I need at least three hundred how 201 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: much you made a texts five? 202 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I made five at Texas. Well, right now 203 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: we got all we got is one hundred. We can start. 204 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 7: We can start at one hundred hundred dollars. Now, yeah, 205 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 7: it should be one hundred dollars, but it's one hundred thousand. 206 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 4: So so how is how is because Prime doesn't seem 207 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 4: like he's holds his tongue, and how's he adapted to 208 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: this new generation of acth with truth? 209 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 7: With truth? 210 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: He if you come into his office and you look 211 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: on that film and you and you come in because 212 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: everybody comes in negotiating at first. See if we got time, Yeah, 213 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: got a minute. Everybody comes in negotiating. That's wrong, Dean said, 214 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: hold on, mom, dad, agent, aunt, uncle, whoever, that person, 215 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: that person of authority is. 216 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 7: Hold on, hold on, Let's talk about playing. 217 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: Let me tell you where I see your kid at, 218 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: and then you can decide what your kid worth after that. 219 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: So this is where we see your kid at. This 220 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: is what we seen your kid do. So you said 221 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: two hundred what like you said, Kurt, two hundred dollars? See, 222 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: because everybody has a big opinion. Everybody ain't David Mala 223 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: mala getto. 224 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 7: Everybody, ain't David. 225 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: David knows who his client is and what he can 226 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: possibly get you. Going off of some high school coach 227 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: that charitished your kid and threw him one hundred and 228 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: fifty passes and he caught sixty of them for one 229 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: thousand and fifteen hundred yards. Where now he's on the 230 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: level where everybody's equal. 231 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 7: They don't see him that way. 232 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: Can you imagine being a coach now, not only do 233 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: you have to deal with what you used to have 234 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: to deal with, now you got you got Jimmy Jack 235 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: from the sporting goods store and Dothan, Alabama representing your kid. 236 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 4: And you got him in there with the kid and 237 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: the mom and the dad and the grandpa. And then 238 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: you're having to go and then you have like kids 239 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: that come in with legit agents. 240 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 6: Can you just just the scope. 241 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: Of what you're dealing with when it comes to just negotiation. 242 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 6: Used to kid, we're begging to come to your pro. 243 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 7: Now you're like we have to set God what you do? 244 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: You set your board? Just like will mclayden do you 245 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: set your board? But see whereas they hoping to draft, 246 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: they're hoping to sign, they don't skip the draft. It 247 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: ain't no such things recruited. It's like, this is what 248 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: our money says. Do we see this kid that dis 249 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: range this range, this range? You know, even with the 250 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: signing of like remember when when when uh, you know, 251 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: you signed for your for your. 252 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, and how big all of that was. That's not 253 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 7: the big thing now for the HBCUs. 254 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: That's black college for you know. I'm just trying to 255 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: for black colleges. 256 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 7: And those of that equal. 257 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: Ill, this is what we wait on now, Georgia, promise 258 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: you that last scholarship at two hundred thousand dollars. But 259 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: a dude called in from Texas needing five hundred and 260 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: I'll come to you. So two hundred thousand went away. Sorry, 261 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: gave the scholarship away. Don't nobody else want me? Hey, 262 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: Floryda and m y'all got a spot. 263 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, glad to have you. I had to kick some 264 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 7: other kid out. Glad to have your baby. So they 265 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 7: leave their rosters open to the very last minute certain spots. 266 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: They leave enough spots so when one of them kids 267 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: drop out of that power five. 268 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 7: They may can get it. For Get that kid for 269 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 7: a year or two. 270 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 5: They're saying, that's making it kind of easier for the 271 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 5: NFL to scout, because the colleges are doing their scouting 272 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 5: for them. All these oh yeah, diamonds in the rough 273 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 5: at Florida and M Yeah, they're getting grabbed by Alabama now. Yeah, 274 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: so they're really just focused on the power four. 275 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: So if you ain't elite, if you ain't elite at 276 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: the Black colleges, if you are not elite, enjoy yourself, 277 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: enjoy enjoy college. 278 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back, 279 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: more talk with Nate. I like, I like when Jesse's 280 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: out every once in a while. 281 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on one eight. I mean, I 282 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 7: don't know. I'm good if I'm good as George Pickings, 283 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 7: but hey, I'm okay. 284 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: Speaking of Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that dude when 285 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: we come back. 286 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 7: But I would like to. 287 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 4: It's there's been a uh, there's been a a contract. 288 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 6: Uh since we last met that made that. 289 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 7: You know, Chris may. 290 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 4: Tell us a little bit about the market. 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There we go, Yeah, well 339 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: I like that, right dot com. Speaking of receivers, JSN 340 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 4: big contract. 341 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 5: Big on paper, Chris, break it down. 342 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 7: Break it down for break it Down. 343 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 11: It was a four year extension, so he actually they 344 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 11: actually have him for six more years. 345 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 7: And when does the big money start. 346 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: I know they gave him a big signing bonus, but 347 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: his the two years is when his money start really 348 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: kicking in right, Chris. 349 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 11: Yeah, so his big money doesn't start until twenty twenty eight. Yes, 350 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 11: so if you take all the money, put it together, 351 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 11: and divide it by six, it's actually like thirty two 352 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 11: a year, which is kind of the going rate. 353 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 7: Yeah. So as soon as I heard that, I was 354 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 7: on the roll right in here, and so. 355 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, why don't they just be honest and say, 356 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 2: this kid signed a six year contract for he two 357 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: that's already. 358 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: Down four more better, better paper, and. 359 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 7: It sounds good. 360 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: But if I'm the NFL, I'm stopping that. Well, maybe 361 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: you shouldn't, maybe because the teams be like, man, we 362 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: got these kids believing they finna get it, you know 363 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 2: what I like? 364 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 11: For instance, his cap number next year is only ten 365 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 11: point three, yes, so his his actual base salary's only 366 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 11: one point two million, wow, And his his signing bonus 367 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 11: was eight point eight So. 368 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, a bunch of guaranteed money one hundred and twenty 369 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 5: I think guarantee. 370 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: Right, So that that's kind of we're looking in that 371 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: ballpark right through a contract with Pickings right thirty two 372 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 4: to thirty five, and if negotiations go anywhere like they 373 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 4: have with the Kicker he's going to ask for forty 374 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: five a year and then back it down. But do 375 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 4: either one of you think, just knowing the history with 376 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: the agent, there's there's history there, right, there's a very 377 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 4: high water level under that bridge, right, and just knowing. 378 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 6: Things you've heard, do either. 379 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 4: One of you think he is going to play on 380 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: the franchise tag or do you think he's not going 381 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: to step foot into training camp until he gets a deal. 382 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 5: I don't think he'll do any offseason workouts. I don't 383 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: even think he'n go to training camp right when it gets. 384 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: Down, cowboys really want him in training camp. After the 385 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: last experience me that that in training camp thing, it 386 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: can hurt. 387 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: You, right, it can hurt you if he doesn't have 388 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: a deal. 389 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 7: Yeah a hold end, Yeah, a. 390 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: Hold end can hurt you. You sign that contract and 391 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 2: hold in. Now I find somebody say he's hurt. You 392 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: say he's fine, but I can find him out to 393 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: say he's right. So now you've got to pay him 394 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: and he's just sitting there, so you're tagging him, right. 395 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, then he signed it, right, do you just. 396 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 4: Either go get the deal done because I don't want 397 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: to go through this again. And I don't think they 398 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: do either. I think if I was them, I would 399 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: be like, look, that was bad. 400 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 6: It's bad. Pr it was bad. The outcome was not great. 401 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 4: Now it all worked out in the end, right, everything, 402 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: But it could have gone really south, and really it 403 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 4: could have gone. It probably should have gone a lot 404 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 4: worse than what it did. Do you just say, hey, 405 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 4: we either want him or we don't. Let's sign him, 406 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: or just let's move on, Let's don't do this whole 407 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 4: song and dance, and hey, we're gonna franchise him, and 408 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 4: then he's not gonna sign it. 409 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 6: We're not gonna play. 410 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: Like what do you what would you do at this point? 411 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 5: Well, you would think they would. It seems like these 412 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 5: negotiations that the player always winds up getting what he 413 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 5: wants anyway, so you would hope that. But it gets 414 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 5: to the point like cowboys may pay him ced Limb 415 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 5: money or whatever. They shouldn't, but they they may. But 416 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 5: you know, picking this guy, he's maybe asking for forty 417 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 5: you know, and you can't pay him more than you're 418 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: gonna pay get up in Minnesota or Incinnati, and you know, you. 419 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 7: Know, I'm agreeing. 420 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm agreeing with you, Kurt, because I just believe this 421 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: right here, but I believe you one hundred percent on 422 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: That's how I felt from day one after he came 423 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: in and started to perform, how he was. You had 424 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 2: to make a decision, you know, and I know things 425 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: change over time. 426 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 7: Do you want and want this kid? If you didn't 427 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 7: really want this. 428 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: Kid, hit him, hit him with yeah, hit him with 429 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: something respectable, you. 430 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 7: Know, but this is what. 431 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: I always say, And I'm saying respectable, hit him with 432 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: CD money, that's respectable. And if he say no, okay, 433 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: now you know where you're at. But if you don't 434 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: hit him with nothing but a tag and it's an 435 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: exclusive tag, that's three or four million dollars up under 436 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: the non exclusive tag, what does. 437 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 7: That say to him? 438 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 4: Right? You're gonna piss him off, You piss the agent all. 439 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: So like, that's what I'm saying. 440 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 7: Let's seny what you want him? Get him? And you know, 441 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 7: people say, well, what is he worth? Okay? 442 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: And I know things go up depending on your age. Okay, 443 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: we got him as a third round for a third 444 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: round pick. Everybody was elated. Everybody laughing, everybody, Oh we 445 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: got pissed bird. 446 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 7: Guess what, y'all? We just got what. 447 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 2: Most people think a forty two million dollar deal with 448 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: a first and at least a second or third is 449 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: when a team is looking at this thing. Come draft day, 450 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: Hey mister Jones, we'll give you a first and a 451 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 2: third because we got to pay this kid at least 452 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: thirty five million plus a year. 453 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 7: Are you willing to do it? And I'm with you 454 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 7: if you don't want this kid or not. 455 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 6: You get to me. 456 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 4: If you get thro through the drafts and you don't 457 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: have a deal and you're still planning on tagging him, 458 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 4: I think it's you're in trouble, Like I don't think 459 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: this guy is gonna play on the tag, and then 460 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 4: you got a big hole at number two. Unless you 461 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: think Ryan Floorinoy is gonna step in and be George Pickens, 462 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: which he's not. Then you're going in with a lesser offense, 463 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 4: which if it's fine, If that's what you want to do, 464 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: go do it. But don't don't get let this thing 465 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 4: get to camp. You get through the draft, you want 466 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: to see what somebody will give you. Great you get 467 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: into May June, do either make a deal or just 468 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: be like, we are planning on not riding with this guy. 469 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 12: This year. 470 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 5: If you're going into the draft in the same position 471 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 5: where there's he hadn't signed. There's really not been any 472 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 5: negotiations that we know of. Does wide receiver become a 473 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 5: bigger priority in the draft. 474 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: It doesn't because you want I don't think it's a 475 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: guy that's gonna demand that early respect of him. So 476 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: now that pick at twenty, we talked about, if it's 477 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: any tackle that can really play, not a suspect tackle, 478 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: if he's suspected to keep right on riding to the 479 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: next most valuable player. But if he can, if he 480 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: can play, you get that tackle. I don't care if 481 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: he a right tackle, left tackle, or undertackle, overtackle. 482 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 7: You get to tackle. Don't get the receiver. 483 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: Get the tackle, because they are not I repeat, George, 484 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: they're not George. They come on, now, let's don't play 485 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: this league is of what's known. Because this other guy 486 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: that we can't mention his name, that we talked about, 487 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: that we could have had. 488 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 7: Now they're talking about. 489 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: They circling background talking about coming at this kid again. 490 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: Nah man, Nah, I would have go with the known, 491 00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: is what I'm trying to say. 492 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't I would love 493 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 4: to see him on the team. I think him and 494 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: CD especially give him another year with Dak this offense, 495 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 4: shore up that offensive line a little bit. I think 496 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 4: they could be the best wide receiver duo. 497 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 7: In the league. 498 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: For sure. 499 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 7: They would it last year. 500 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 4: Right, But if you if you choose to not go 501 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 4: that route, fine, that's fine too. 502 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: If you don't want to spend that kind of money. 503 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 4: You don't want to spend that money, great, let's save it. 504 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: Let's put it somewhere else. But make the decision. 505 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 7: This year. 506 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: We're doing things different, right, We've seen things being a 507 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 4: little different. Unless you ask Jesse, he's still convinced it's 508 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: the same old, same old. But let's do it different. Like, 509 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: if you want the guy, it's like a baseball card. 510 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 4: What's his value? Doesn't matter what his value is. What 511 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: do you what are you willing to pay for that card? 512 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 4: If you're willing to overpay for it, that's the value. 513 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: If you don't want it and then you're underpaying, that's 514 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 4: the value. The value is what you pay. Yes, let's 515 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 4: let's make our minds up before we go, before we 516 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 4: get on the plane to go down there. 517 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 6: Either do it now or just don't do it. So 518 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 6: that's my. 519 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 7: Whole opinion on that thing. 520 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with you. 521 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of opinions on the show, 522 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 6: but that was one of them. 523 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 7: It's a sound, it's a sound. 524 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: But the thing that the thing is two things. One 525 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: thing that I like that Missus Jones said is no 526 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 2: more red shirts. No more getting guys with a second 527 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 2: and third round pick, getting a guy pulling him back 528 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 2: into the first round. They shouldn't have not even been 529 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: drafted to the second day. And no more Okay, he 530 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 2: went through his whole career injured. No more of those guys. 531 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: That's that's a great thing. It's not to say that 532 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: a guy can't come here and get injured, but I 533 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: would like to at least have a hell c yes 534 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: of no injury. 535 00:28:55,280 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 7: And the best player possible is a good thing. 536 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: If you don't have an outstanding need, well, we don't 537 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: have an outstanding need. So the best player possible is 538 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: the greatest thing for the Cowboys. 539 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: All right, let's take our last break when we come to. 540 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 5: I don't know about that one. What's that we don't 541 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 5: have any outstanding needs? 542 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 7: No, no, no, we don't have like we just need we 543 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 7: gotta have a left tackle. We gotta have oh man 544 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 7: left Oh, we gotta have a left tackle. Well, we 545 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 7: need a uh need a lot, we need a line 546 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 7: you have. 547 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 4: You have so many outstanding needs, not one outstand We. 548 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 7: Can take Grandma bad. I understand you edit, you have 549 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 7: other words. 550 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 6: There's a lot of good options. 551 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right. 552 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: Let's take our last break. When we come back, uh 553 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: more football. We don't try to talk about things that 554 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 4: we might not be able to talk about, but. 555 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: We're word them in a way that we think, yeah, yeah, 556 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: we talked about this kid earlier in the year, So 557 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: you go back and talk. 558 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk to Chris and the break and see 559 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 4: what we can get away with. You did to see 560 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: what that is next, and heng go the boys. 561 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 12: We got big personalities, we got big hair, big bell buckles. 562 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 12: We got fans all across as big state and enemies 563 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 12: in every other one. 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Is that premium gas? 624 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: So we playing premium prices? 625 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 7: Because not good? 626 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 6: All right? 627 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 4: We were talking earlier before the show started. 628 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 7: We're trying to figure out a. 629 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 6: Way that we could talk about this. 630 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: But it's been reported, so we'll just quote the source 631 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: that reported it. And then it's some news came out 632 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 4: when the Cowboys were in the mix for the Max 633 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 4: Crosby deal with the Ravens went through. Everybody knows the 634 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: deal fell through because of a failed physical or some 635 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: issues with the physical. 636 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 6: And then I think a couple of days ago, it 637 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 6: came out that what the Cowboys actually offered, right. 638 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, ESPN did a big report on it, and the 639 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 5: Cowboys seemingly were more serious than maybe we thought their 640 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 5: initial offering, according to ESPN was a second there's second 641 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 5: first round pick, so twentieth overall. In Osa eventually went 642 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 5: to the forty nine ers. They came back and said 643 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 5: they would offer them the hire of the pick, the 644 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 5: twelfth overall with a third rounder, which at the time 645 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 5: would have been next year, probably have a third. Ultimately, 646 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 5: their finer offer was the number twelve overall and a 647 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 5: second round pick like next year. Right, wow, and they 648 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: went with whatever ball. I don't even remember what Baltimore 649 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 5: offered him, but yeah, they Cowboys made a pretty serious 650 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: run there. 651 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm with Nate, and I think my mentality over the 652 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 4: last probably five years on this has changed every draft pick, 653 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 4: even if it's a generational guy or you know, you 654 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 4: know it's you always have that chance of let just 655 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 4: just say Kyle Pitts for instance, Right, he was a 656 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: generational tight end. Yea good but not worth a top 657 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 4: five or ten pick. 658 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 6: Right, what did he go at? He went top five? 659 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, so that you're always rolling the dice 660 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: when you've got a known commodity, even if they're a 661 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 4: little long in the tooth and you only get maybe 662 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 4: a couple of years you know what you're getting, like, 663 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 4: you know you're getting that. And to me, spend, spend 664 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 4: draft capital, spend the unknown to get the known as 665 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: what is what I say? 666 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 6: So I'd have been down for all those deals. 667 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 4: I mean first second, and I mean you wanted to 668 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: move on from Osa's contract anyway, throw him in there. 669 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you got a third for him if you 670 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: really want. This goes back to if you really want 671 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 4: the guy, go get the guy right and you. 672 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 2: Know football, right, That's that's the most hurting this thing 673 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 2: when you're doing the draft picks. And like I said, 674 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 2: when I go watch these kids, I'm looking at them 675 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: and you can tell kids that love. 676 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 7: Like I looking at one lineman. 677 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: He just don't have the athletic ability, but he's one 678 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: of the best techniquiess is he's always given that effort 679 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: of you saying, I wish this guy was in this guy, 680 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: this guy athletic ability was in this guy with all 681 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: his heart and all this technique. 682 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 4: You know, wish Rudy was in Darnell Jefferson's body. 683 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 5: Right. 684 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: So I'm saying to myself, I left them glad out glad. 685 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 2: I went there and said, well, I'm sure glad I ain't. 686 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: No coach got to get up watch this film. I 687 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: left us saying, Lord Jesus, I'm not because I'm not 688 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 2: finished debate you on whether you should be in your 689 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: knees or not and why you can't ben your knee? 690 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 6: Can you tell when you? 691 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 4: And I would always do this when we picked the 692 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 4: draft picks up with the Cowboys. When they get on 693 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 4: the bus, you get to spend a little bit of 694 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 4: time with them, you know, from the airport to here, 695 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 4: and I could just get a feel if a dude 696 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 4: love football, like if he really was a football guy, 697 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 4: or if he was just like an athlete that was 698 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 4: playing football. With just spending fifteen minutes with him, really 699 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 4: I could, like I felt like I could. And then 700 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 4: that would always make me question, like, so. 701 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 7: You're watching them extra close now? Yeah? 702 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it always makes me wonder like, Okay, what 703 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 4: did they what did the guys that brought them in 704 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: for the thirty visits and all? 705 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 6: What did they see that I'm not seeing? 706 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: Because I don't know if this dude loves football, athletic ability. 707 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 5: You're on that Moseley Smith bus or something. 708 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 6: Now I wasn't ONSI, but I was on I was 709 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 6: on one of the. 710 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: Might have been that guy, and I just got the 711 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 4: feeling like you're in love with the idea of playing football. 712 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 7: But I don't know if when coaches. 713 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: Make the mistake of saying I got a relationship with somebody, 714 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 2: you know that's like me and a beautiful girl at 715 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: the club. You think you got a relationship. Now she 716 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,879 Speaker 2: finna get She's finna get what she finna get you. 717 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: You finna get left at altar. That's just the bottom line. 718 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: It's so simple now. 719 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 7: It is. 720 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 2: You invite a kid in and they say, well, my 721 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 2: mom and daddy want to come. 722 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 7: That used to be a great thing twenty years ago. 723 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 7: That used to oh you want your mom? Oh cool mom, 724 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 7: Dad spell them when you could talk to the dad. 725 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 7: Hey man, what you think that. 726 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: Dad trying to? You know, hey, hey, I'm backing you, coach. 727 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm in line with your things. 728 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 7: Now. You know you you getting ready to get on 729 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 7: the bus go to a bowl game. 730 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 2: You bring it in kids, You got to bring it 731 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 2: the extra bus to bring the family. These people ain't 732 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 2: loving football. They love them with football can do for 733 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 2: them and so and you're never going to ignore talent. 734 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 2: You're never You're never gonna ignore especially exceptional talent. You're 735 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: gonna Alabama say nah, we thwish after a year, but 736 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 2: Texas saying nah, you know got it. Guy said, man, hey, coach, 737 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 2: I coached this kid. 738 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 7: All you gotta do is do this. Go to Texas covid. 739 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: Man, don't you ever call me again talking about because 740 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 2: now now he's over North Texas and now the kid 741 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 2: in the family realizing, hey man, you better do the 742 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 2: right thing. You know, now this kid go blow up 743 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 2: at University of North Texas because he went from one 744 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 2: point five mil. 745 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 7: To seven fifty to one hundred and fifty. 746 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 4: You know, then if you go do the one hundred 747 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: and fifty, right, you go back up to three minutes. Yeah, 748 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 4: you suddenly fall back in love with football. 749 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 12: Yeah. 750 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I just tell people like this, it's about 751 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 2: the money and it's. 752 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 7: About but if you love football. You know, I listened to. 753 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: The the network, NFL network, radio and TV. I religiously 754 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: listen to it because it's football people talking. And this 755 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: kid that recently signed with the Seahawks. You couldn't get 756 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: no one nowhere to say anything of he shouldn't have 757 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 2: got this contract. No, I mean nothing nothing thing. 758 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 7: You know. I even heard one. 759 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 2: Guy say, hold, I think he probably did wrong with 760 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: signed the extension. 761 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 7: He should have told me wanted his money now, right, 762 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 7: that's not the worship. But that's the kid. 763 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: From long distance that we know love football long distance. 764 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 2: We don't know, you know, heck Man Harrison know the kid. 765 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 2: And I've always taught that before he signed, he talked 766 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 2: highly of him, highly of him. But after he signed, 767 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 2: all he wanted to talk about was what George was 768 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: gonna getting. 769 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 7: I was trying to say, heck, oh your horses. 770 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: You're talking about two different kids, two different organizations with 771 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: two different histories. 772 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 5: See, uh yeah, the Seahawks got way out in front 773 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 5: of that. Yeah, yes, that hasn't happened. 774 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: And and and he wasn't stove anywhere, you know, Like 775 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: remember I just a year ago we laughed. 776 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 7: Well we got over old Pittsburgh. 777 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 2: We got Now we're saying you got even shining with opinion. 778 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: I don't want him signed now go. 779 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,320 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's easy, but I mean it's easy 780 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 14: for me as a fan. I'm like, don't do this 781 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 14: to me again, right right? 782 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 4: And you know what, like he wasn't the word on 783 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 4: the street was he wasn't the easiest person to deal 784 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 4: with in Pittsburgh. Let me ask you a question, is 785 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: it these players or is it Pittsburgh? 786 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 7: Right right? 787 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: Because a lot of them, a lot of them have 788 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 4: issues in Pittsburgh like we've never really had. We've had 789 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 4: a couple of dudes that you know, custom. 790 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 5: Boasts some meetings here and this and that. 791 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: Right, but a lot of But see, this is the 792 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 2: funny thing that a lot of teams have played like 793 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 2: that the great you know. 794 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 7: But what Trump saw is talent. 795 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 5: The more you can put up with. 796 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 4: We like even here t O, right, Daz. But you 797 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 4: know what happens when you oh, that's just that's just 798 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 4: t O. That's just Deaz. You know, heat to the 799 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 4: analytic ability one, and then it's like, you know, you 800 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 4: get the salt and pepper shake over. Here's the cowboys 801 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 4: over here, such and such. But hey, we gotta go 802 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 4: with this for the cowboys. 803 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. 804 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know. 805 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 4: So back to the original thing with the Crosby deal, 806 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 4: there's only two, maybe three edge rushers in this league 807 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 4: that I would give up first round collateral to bring 808 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 4: them in, right? 809 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 6: What would what? 810 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 4: What would your what would your what would both. 811 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 6: Of you Max? Max? 812 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 4: No pun intended offer be for like a top here 813 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 4: edge rusher, if you were going to trade for a guy, 814 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 4: would you give. 815 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 7: You could have had the twelve? 816 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 2: I mean if you could have had the twenty, you know, 817 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: the twentieth, you could have had the twentieth, You could 818 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: have had OSA, and I would have gave you a 819 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: second or third. 820 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't. 821 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 6: I'd have done that. 822 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 5: I wouldn't give up both first, but I would definitely 823 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 5: I would give up the twelve. 824 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 6: It was would you do a twelve, A three and 825 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 6: OSA or yeah? 826 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 7: That's the perfect for me? 827 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 4: Say it again, twelve, three and OSA? 828 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I would probably hope that three would be 829 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 5: next year. But you know the thing. 830 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 7: Is that would fix a whole lot of stuff. How 831 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 7: how how desperate are you? 832 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: How I'm always I'm talking about I'm talking about the 833 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: guy that want to get rid of them? Right See, 834 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 2: I think the Raiders can't go wrong if they keep him. 835 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 7: I think they can't. You got a guy that love 836 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,240 Speaker 7: the sports. 837 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 5: He's got the players around him. Now, yeah, he had 838 00:43:59,400 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 5: a better. 839 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 7: Move, so he he loved the sport. He want to win, 840 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 7: so you can't go wrong with having a guy like that. 841 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 2: I've always erred, you know, I always wanted to go 842 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 2: with the people that's positive about your program and love 843 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 2: the sport. 844 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 7: But you know how bad does to me. 845 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 4: To me, it's it's as bad. 846 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 6: What do you want? 847 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 4: Okay, because guess what you get a guy like that? Well, 848 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 4: you get a guy like that in here all of 849 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 4: a sudden. Guess what, Your cornerbacks play a little bit better. 850 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 4: Your safeties don't don't have to cover for as long. 851 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 4: Your linebacker you still gotta fix. 852 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 6: But like a lot. 853 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 4: When that when that window goes from four in five 854 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 4: seconds that you have to pass. 855 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 6: To two point three to three. 856 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:52,439 Speaker 4: That that makes a a mediocre secondary pretty damn good 857 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 4: with one guy. 858 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 2: And that's what we'll be giving up if we don't 859 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: sign George. Right now, Dak can drop back and throw 860 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 2: that thing in two point five seconds because he got 861 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 2: end of the majority of the time. You know he 862 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 2: gonna hit on Now George leave and they double CD 863 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, we got the guys. 864 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 6: These guys can't work free. 865 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: Not that three point oh yeah, Dak just got sudden, 866 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 2: does you know, don't you call Dak name, do not 867 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 2: not on this show, not again again. 868 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 4: Oh hi, fellas who are out of time? Kurt will 869 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 4: save the uh, the rest of your bullets. 870 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 7: It was great man, it's good stuff. 871 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 4: It was great insight Natam, Yeah, good stuff about Colorado 872 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 4: and Dion and the and the. 873 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 6: New the new wave of athlete. Very insightful. So good stuff. Jesse. 874 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 4: We'll see you next week, Chris, thanks for keeping us 875 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 4: on the air. No cookies for the big boy be back. Oh, 876 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 4: don't do that next week, Hey Pa, we out. 877 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: This wo has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 878 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Boys put on Closs, didn't he