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Speaker 3: Welcome and sign everybody. We're live in Los Angeles, Tuesday,
Speaker 3: March fourth, Big Time Tuesday, Franchise Tag Day in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Jamie hear and all, Cody Castler, Kyle Brandt, and DeMarco
Speaker 3: far back on the table to Marco.
Speaker 4: Welcome back, Thank you very much. I made it to
Speaker 4: the table again. You did. I'm still trying to figure
Speaker 4: out how to get here. Everywhere complicated. It's early in
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Speaker 1: We'll go. There's a secret wet bar underneath this place.
Speaker 1: You didn't tell me, Cody, come on, man.
Speaker 2: Yesterday when we left, you didn't tell me about the
Speaker 2: wet bar. I didn't know about this.
Speaker 4: I go back in your book and the piano key
Speaker 4: and there's a bar. Awesome.
Speaker 3: It's unfortunately that we had to work at nine am
Speaker 3: and then it's a little nine p two o'clock sent
Speaker 3: work all right. Awesome to have everybody here at the table.
Speaker 3: We have Ian Rappaport joining us today because of us.
Speaker 3: Today is a bit of a calendar day in the
Speaker 3: NFL rap sheet, What's up today is franchise tag day.
Speaker 3: What is going on with a couple of the big
Speaker 3: names it across the league. Let's start with a twenty
Speaker 3: six year old wide receiver in Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: The twenty six year old wide receiver who would be
Speaker 5: the top receiver on the market but now is going
Speaker 5: to be franchise tags again. That is t Higgins, the
Speaker 5: star for the Cincinnati Bengals twenty six point two million
Speaker 5: dollars franchise tag. As I mentioned, just like last year,
Speaker 5: Bengals Lockerman make sure and so when it would be
Speaker 5: the best receiver on the market is not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: They would like to work out a.
Speaker 5: Long term deal with Tea, obviously, they have a lot
Speaker 5: to do. They have Jamar Chase where they'd like to
Speaker 5: work out a long term deal with. They have Trey
Speaker 5: Hendrickson who wants a long term deal or potentially could
Speaker 5: be traded. They want to keep him in as well Taggans,
Speaker 5: so when they see is a big part of their future.
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow has been outspoken about this, with some work
Speaker 5: to do as far as getting him on a long
Speaker 5: term deal. The Dallas Cowboys also have some work to
Speaker 5: do on their star defensive tackle, Osa Odiggy Zua. My understanding,
Speaker 5: and this is after a conversation with Sam Leaf of
Speaker 5: Balandi Sports, his agent, the Cowboys are likely to franchise
Speaker 5: tag Osa today. They have been working on a long
Speaker 5: term deal something they would pay him an excess of
Speaker 5: twenty million dollars, and at various times there's been momentum
Speaker 5: toward a deal. But as of this very second, the
Speaker 5: likelihood is the Cowboys tagg him. I continue to work
Speaker 5: on a said deal over the next several weeks and months.
Speaker 5: And then there's a situation surrounding Sam Donald, the Minnesota
Speaker 5: Vikings starting quarterback last year one of the best stories
Speaker 5: of the entire year.
Speaker 4: And I think if you had taken most.
Speaker 5: Of the year, you'd say, you know what, Obviously Donald's
Speaker 5: going to be the Vikings starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's it. Move on.
Speaker 5: The last two games were a little bit different the Vikings.
Speaker 5: Here's my understanding. This is something I'm reporting with collegue
Speaker 5: tompos Ara. They are not expected to franchise tags Sam
Speaker 5: Donald today. There is still a possibility that he is
Speaker 5: the starter. In fact, there are various options here. One
Speaker 5: of the really strong options is for Donald to return
Speaker 5: to the Vikings on a deal that is a little
Speaker 5: under the franchise tag. The two sides would like to
Speaker 5: work something out, no doubt. If Donald becomes free next week,
Speaker 5: it would like to be the top quarterback available. He
Speaker 5: is for sure going to have suitors. The Vikings would
Speaker 5: like him back, which would mean, by the way, not
Speaker 5: yet for JJ McCarthy. Obviously there's a lot there. They
Speaker 5: would like to retain Sam Donald. We'll see if they're
Speaker 5: able to do so, all.
Speaker 3: Right, rap sheet, We appreciate that. So to not interpret
Speaker 3: this decision by the Vikings as a we're going to
Speaker 3: cast him off, We're going to fully move on. This
Speaker 3: is more of a let's look at our books and
Speaker 3: make the best financial decision for their quarterback room in
Speaker 3: Minnesota moving forward, Cody tough spot the Vikings find themselves in.
Speaker 3: It's either decide to move on from a guy that
Speaker 3: had you and a lot of games, won you a
Speaker 3: lot of games last year, go with the second yr
Speaker 3: quarterback has never played a snap, or you keep them
Speaker 3: around and pay him a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I think, in my opinion, that it would be best
Speaker 2: for the Vikings and Sam Donald to both go their
Speaker 2: separate ways. The reason I think that is because Sam
Speaker 2: Donald wants to be paid like a franchise quarterback. He
Speaker 2: wants to build off of the momentum from last season
Speaker 2: where he wants to go somewhere where he can be
Speaker 2: the guy where they believe in him and he's not
Speaker 2: looking over his shoulder. He doesn't want to have to
Speaker 2: deal with quarterback controversy if he comes back to Minnesota.
Speaker 2: We all know the entire topic all off Saton off
Speaker 2: season is going to be McCarthy verse Sam Donald. Who's
Speaker 2: the franchise guy, who's going to be the leader, who's
Speaker 2: going to be the face of the Minnesota Vikings. And
Speaker 2: Sam doesn't want that anymore. And the other reason is
Speaker 2: the Vikings need to do right by JJ McCarthy. They
Speaker 2: invest in the tenth overall picking them. In my opinion,
Speaker 2: if you keep Sam Donald around, who's only twenty seven
Speaker 2: years old, by the way, and that's an important factor
Speaker 2: in this, he's not a thirty five to forty year
Speaker 2: old that's.
Speaker 4: Been a lot man in twenty seven years.
Speaker 2: Well, he's not on his way out of the NFL.
Speaker 2: Right is if he plays well again, going to be
Speaker 2: there for a long time, right. So that's why I
Speaker 2: think it's difficult for them to keep him around. I
Speaker 2: think that just does a disservice to JJ McCarthy. It's
Speaker 2: going to disrupt his momentum. It's going to hurt him
Speaker 2: a little bit with his development. It's not going to
Speaker 2: allow him to feel confident and know that I'm the guy.
Speaker 2: You start having that doubt creeping a little bit a
Speaker 2: t where do they not believe in me anymore? Do
Speaker 2: they think Sam Donald is a guy? I just think
Speaker 2: it's going to hurt J McCarthy. But this is a
Speaker 2: perfect example of being in the right place at the
Speaker 2: wrong time, right Sam Donald. If he's there and they
Speaker 2: don't draft JJ McCarthy last year, we're not talking about
Speaker 2: this at all. Our discussion is now about if Sam
Speaker 2: Donald a top five quarterback in the NFL, is he
Speaker 2: going to be paid fifty million dollars a year?
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would do that, but at very
Speaker 2: least they're going to franchise tag him or give him
Speaker 2: a one to two year deal on a proven deal
Speaker 2: to see if he can be the guy. And then
Speaker 2: the other difficult thing about this is if Sam does leave,
Speaker 2: JJ is kind of in that shadow. It's going to
Speaker 2: be difficult for him if he doesn't live up to
Speaker 2: how Sam played. The question becomes, but why do you
Speaker 2: let Sam go? Why do we go to a rookie
Speaker 2: if we could have built that momentum that Sam had
Speaker 2: from a year ago. But in my opinion, I do
Speaker 2: think they go their separate way and the Vikings have
Speaker 2: to do right by JJ McCarthy. That means letting Sam
Speaker 2: Donald go to free agency and find a different team.
Speaker 1: It's really well put in. I think this is a
Speaker 1: really interesting situation. I don't have an immediate opinion on
Speaker 1: either way. I understand both sides, and I sympathize with
Speaker 1: both sides. Let's just remember what happened last year, and
Speaker 1: he has this unbelievably great season, and I think is
Speaker 1: truly one of the stories of the entire season in
Speaker 1: the NFL.
Speaker 4: The last two games were horrible. That's horrible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, dream season, not only for him, for the Vikings,
Speaker 1: for o conne. It's just a wonderful, wonderful season. In
Speaker 1: the last two games that he started, they lost fifty
Speaker 1: eight to eighteen and Sam Donald had twenty three off
Speaker 1: target throat It was hard to watch he wasn't right.
Speaker 4: Something was going on.
Speaker 1: If you've watched him all season, like we all have,
Speaker 1: you didn't recognize the player.
Speaker 4: It's not good. It's not good, and I think I left.
Speaker 1: A very very strong memory in Vikings, fans, hearts, heads, everything.
Speaker 4: It was tough to watch. It just didn't look like
Speaker 4: the same player thirty five and fourteen. I mean, which
Speaker 4: guy's the real Sam Donald, the guy we saw during
Speaker 4: most of the year, or the last two games something happened.
Speaker 4: I agree with you that last playoff game, he did
Speaker 4: not look right. Something was off about that offense, and
Speaker 4: I think that was the reason the Rams won that game.
Speaker 4: Had moved on. Sam Donald's a good quarterback. I think
Speaker 4: he's going to find a home someplace. I think there's
Speaker 4: a right fit. It's the downside of being a quarterback.
Speaker 4: You can only play one at the time, so you
Speaker 4: can't have a platoon system, so somebody is going to
Speaker 4: let him do what he does best. I still think
Speaker 4: there's something special there. But like you said with JJ McCarthy,
Speaker 4: there's so much invested in him. They love him, they
Speaker 4: want him to be the guy. I think Sam is
Speaker 4: in the wrong spot or the right place at the
Speaker 4: wrong time, so they'll be suitors for him. There are
Speaker 4: teams that need quarterbacks and he'll be right at the
Speaker 4: top of that free agent list. But I thought Kevin
Speaker 4: O'Connell said it perfectly. We're going to let him test
Speaker 4: free agency. He's earned the right to go out there
Speaker 4: and see what his market value is going to be.
Speaker 4: So that told you everything you need to know about
Speaker 4: Sam Donald. But at some point we're gonna find out
Speaker 4: which is the real guy, the guy we saw during
Speaker 4: most of the year, or the guy we saw towards
Speaker 4: the end that didn't look so good versus Detroit, Nola.
Speaker 4: Yeah more yeah, just echoing what these people are saying.
Speaker 4: And I think a lot of times Jamie will know
Speaker 4: this that when we can't decide what to do with
Speaker 4: a relation and ship in football, we go and we
Speaker 4: go to the top shelf when we get the dating metaphor.
Speaker 1: And this is just on a tee. So what happened
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. Let's tell the story of it from
Speaker 1: relatable terms.
Speaker 4: We do do this a lot. This is like one
Speaker 4: of the best.
Speaker 2: Ones ever, good one.
Speaker 1: All right, So you go out on a date with
Speaker 1: this guy, all right, it's a Sam Donald and it's
Speaker 1: really really going well. He didn't even think you were
Speaker 1: going to be going on. I've always known him as always
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 4: Been a friend.
Speaker 1: But that ship, we'll go out unbelievably charming and chanting,
Speaker 1: wonderful restaurant, Scandinavian food.
Speaker 4: It's just great.
Speaker 1: The conversation is good, it's clever. He's treating the servers
Speaker 1: really well. There's even handhold is like the best day
Speaker 1: they've ever been in my life. That was the season
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, we're like, let's go home. He's driving
Speaker 1: home and the conversations pleasant. It's just wonderful, beautiful night
Speaker 1: and out of nowhere, he's like you might have been
Speaker 1: put on the radio and he puts on like intense
Speaker 1: political radio.
Speaker 2: Oh the way back.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we're kind of going he's kind of preaching.
Speaker 1: He's like, where did this go?
Speaker 4: I bro, rise, We're finally home. Get out. He walks
Speaker 4: you up.
Speaker 2: To the door, doesn't open your car door, no, and.
Speaker 1: Then we get up to the front step and it's
Speaker 1: just like it's just discussing. It's like species like bam,
Speaker 1: I'm like, where did this date derail so badly? And
Speaker 1: the problem is it's not just a date that went wrong.
Speaker 1: Now you have to consider not only am I going
Speaker 1: to go on another date with this person I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna go way together, but we're gonna buy a
Speaker 1: house together, like something really bonding and something really it's
Speaker 1: gonna unite us. I don't know if I can do that.
Speaker 1: That's terribly as that wins. I got another date. We're
Speaker 1: not going to buy a house in Compege.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let me can I can I keep going
Speaker 3: on this pagraph?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: Yes, no, no, it is for me.
Speaker 3: There is a friend. There is that friend who set
Speaker 3: you up on this date, and this friend knows you
Speaker 3: super well, and they're like, this person works with you.
Speaker 3: This is gonna be awesome. Do you go back to
Speaker 3: the well the person that got you that great first
Speaker 3: date with this person? That think does Kevin O'Connell or
Speaker 3: Josh McCown have it in them again to get the
Speaker 3: next quarterback, to get the next guy right the way
Speaker 3: that requesting, the way that they got Sam Donald right?
Speaker 3: Because was that lightning in a bottle with this triangle
Speaker 3: of people? Because I think the character the person that
Speaker 3: is one of the biggest mysteries and one of the
Speaker 3: biggest factors in Sam Donald's success was Josh McCown on
Speaker 3: the sideline this season. I had the great fortune of
Speaker 3: being on the sideline of a couple of Vikings game
Speaker 3: of the season, and there were never a moment that
Speaker 3: I did not see Josh McCown. Of course working with
Speaker 3: QB one at Sam Donald, but you never saw Josh
Speaker 3: McCown without JJ McCarthy's standing right next to him, whether
Speaker 3: it be in warm up, whether it be with the
Speaker 3: headset on. So this friend of yours set you up
Speaker 3: and set this day up perfectly, and he had everything working.
Speaker 3: Do you go back to that friend and say, you
Speaker 3: know what, this didn't work quite right? You got another
Speaker 3: one for me? And are you going to trust that
Speaker 3: person to hit another blind date and get it right?
Speaker 3: Because this, to me, who Josh McCown is one great
Speaker 3: interview away from being a head coach in the NFL
Speaker 3: because he's had a lot of opportunities. Where are you
Speaker 3: looking at it, like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think JJ is a blind day And I think
Speaker 1: you've studied him online for you years and you kind
Speaker 1: of stalked him and you looked all his family and
Speaker 1: his writing and everything.
Speaker 2: He looked really good in free agency too, right, it's intriguing.
Speaker 2: But I even to Jamie's point, I was with Josh
Speaker 2: McCown when I was in Cleveland as a rookie.
Speaker 4: There's some tough.
Speaker 2: Times and I'm not, you know, not very fond of
Speaker 2: to get into it later, but yeah, we will talk
Speaker 2: about that later. But Josh McCown was a huge positive
Speaker 2: for me. I leaned on him very heavily. He was,
Speaker 2: like I hate saying, a father figure, but that's how
Speaker 2: it was. It was, and he's, you know, a veteran
Speaker 2: and I was a rookie, but I followed him everywhere.
Speaker 2: Every time Josh McCown spoke, I had my pen and
Speaker 2: paper out taking notes because of the experience that he had.
Speaker 2: And going back to the Sam Donald thing. With all
Speaker 2: of this is the reason I said the twenty seven
Speaker 2: year old thing is so important is because if he
Speaker 2: does come back, even if it's a smaller deal than
Speaker 2: something that he doesn't want, but he plays well, he
Speaker 2: could be entering the prime of his football career right now.
Speaker 2: And now you're in a very difficult spot to where
Speaker 2: you let JJ McCarthy play a little bit and maybe
Speaker 2: become you know, try to find some trade value and
Speaker 2: not even let him see the field, not develop and
Speaker 2: go with Sam Donald. Or do you move on now
Speaker 2: and let Sam Donald go? And what if he goes
Speaker 2: somewhere else and plays very well, and then there's going
Speaker 2: to be always that what if.
Speaker 4: Fact and your young guy doesn't or it takes a
Speaker 4: while for McCarthy to get his feet wet in the NFL.
Speaker 4: So I mean, this will be weird. Is McCown the
Speaker 4: guy that sets you up on the date? Is that
Speaker 4: the dude?
Speaker 3: No, he's a great guy, but I think he's too
Speaker 3: busy being a football coach of football player.
Speaker 4: I think he's invaluable, but I really do. I mean,
Speaker 4: I just I wonder I do. The first thing you
Speaker 4: hear about Sam Donald, how great of a guy he is,
Speaker 4: and he is basically captain. I have met the probo
Speaker 4: first time. I think the best person I've ever met.
Speaker 4: He's awesome, right, believe he's the guy you want to
Speaker 4: be your starter. So it's just a shock when the
Speaker 4: Vikings don't want him back. But I think that speaks
Speaker 4: to the potential of AJJ. McCarthy. There might be more
Speaker 4: there than what Sam Donald. His ceiling might be higher,
Speaker 4: but it's a weird story. You can only play one
Speaker 4: at the time. That must be weird. To know that
Speaker 4: the guy behind you is eventually going to be the
Speaker 4: guy while you're taking snaps. It's got to be weird.
Speaker 1: I also want something that Ian said and you touched
Speaker 1: on it, this idea that they're going to bring Donald
Speaker 1: back on a mid level concert.
Speaker 4: Mid level contracts don't exist.
Speaker 1: I thought that sounds great when you're saying, we need
Speaker 1: to find a middle class for this quarter. But then
Speaker 1: the agents get in new and it's like, no, Jordan
Speaker 1: love money or I'm out of here like that.
Speaker 4: It always sounds like a reason.
Speaker 1: Don't just pay Sam Donald something reasonable for a couple
Speaker 1: of years for medium money.
Speaker 4: There is no medium money. It doesn't.
Speaker 1: That's I love hearing that, because there should be, and
Speaker 1: we should have Sam Donald money that is not Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow money.
Speaker 4: But I never see it happen. No one who goes
Speaker 4: to backups. And the reason that's what's gonna happen I'll
Speaker 4: be paying is the start.
Speaker 2: The reason the agents do that is because we don't
Speaker 2: know if Sam Donald's gonna have a year like this again.
Speaker 2: And I love Sam. I spent time with him at
Speaker 2: USC but you have to strike now when he's at
Speaker 2: his highest value. The agents are gonna We're not going
Speaker 2: to settle for anything less. He needs to be paid
Speaker 2: what I think he deserves because you don't know what
Speaker 2: the future is going to hold, right, and that could
Speaker 2: be injury, that could be a fall off or relapse,
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. They want to get paid.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald should sign a two year deal for twenty
Speaker 1: eight million dollars year.
Speaker 4: It's not going to happen. I've never seen that happen
Speaker 4: in the last ten years. Ago has happened.
Speaker 3: Maybe not two years. I think he deserves a little
Speaker 3: longer than that.
Speaker 4: What doing with aj then like that? You know what
Speaker 4: I mean? It's something reasonable. They may even stays with
Speaker 4: the Biking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he stays with Viking, but we all think
Speaker 1: we should set Samdrel played well enough to stay with
Speaker 1: the Vikings for a short amount. There's no short amount
Speaker 1: of time. There is no small money. The agents don't
Speaker 1: go for that. They give me everything, give me that
Speaker 1: fun job for I don't think that's an option. I
Speaker 1: think it's either sign them a huge contract or salamale.
Speaker 3: Now the one catch I think Kyle too, when you
Speaker 3: had like the heavy exhal when you said he was
Speaker 3: twenty seven years old, which is like, maybe this guy
Speaker 3: has seen so much and been through so much, Maybe
Speaker 3: he might maybe he is the quarterback to reset the
Speaker 3: mid market deal because he so badly wants to stay
Speaker 3: in Minnesota because this is what works for him. He
Speaker 3: has been at the top of the mountain, and man,
Speaker 3: he has been at the lowest of the valley, and
Speaker 3: this could be just where he wants to be physically,
Speaker 3: he for his life, for his development, and maybe he's
Speaker 3: seen so much junk along the way that he wants
Speaker 3: to stay there because it's a great organization and like
Speaker 3: fantastic coaches.
Speaker 2: And good for his development.
Speaker 1: Stay in Minnesota, and it's not a small contract or
Speaker 1: go to the Raider, it's not a huge contract. Be
Speaker 1: terrible again and lose everything, Like that's no defense to
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I'm just saying jumping someplace off because hell,
Speaker 1: if you were to say that I want to stay here,
Speaker 1: just his agent like, no, I'm telling you don't.
Speaker 4: And that's the agent's job.
Speaker 1: We just don't see those contracts happen, so I don't
Speaker 1: think it will.
Speaker 3: He's a grizzled veteran, though when it comes to a
Speaker 3: physical experience in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's like the president, all the stops ten years at
Speaker 1: a time. That's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Should have one comeback player of the Year. And I'm
Speaker 3: sure Joe Burrow would have been okay with that.
Speaker 4: You think we will go hunt, think we go.
Speaker 6: Think we will go hunting Buffalo?
Speaker 4: And he hasn't stopped talking since we're saying from Marco
Speaker 4: Fires super Bowl Champion? Have you ever sacked Johnson of
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills? He has? And we had it in
Speaker 4: that package. Would you like to watch that? Did I
Speaker 4: scare you?
Speaker 2: I did? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 4: That was a whole different dude. That dude had an
Speaker 4: air ring crazy, Oh NonStop? Yeah crazy.
Speaker 2: Used to hang up with Nelly.
Speaker 4: That's bad. Ye would hang out with Nell. He was there.
Speaker 4: This all Saint Louis stuff right there where the Saint
Speaker 4: Lunatics there too, most of them, most of them. That's crazy.
Speaker 3: But you're still humming your joyous tunes before during a
Speaker 3: game like you did in that clip and even before
Speaker 3: our show.
Speaker 4: I hope that doesn't bother you, guys. I just sing
Speaker 4: all the time. Life should be surrounded by with music,
Speaker 4: right absolutely, we work made some music as a player.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Watch some of it, and you're talking about some of
Speaker 1: the guys today who were making it from the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle position. We love a list here, Yes, what do
Speaker 1: you have for us today? I appreciate the bigs, the
Speaker 1: button gut guys. Now, it's kind of weird because I
Speaker 1: spent the last ten years watching Aaron Donald do his thing,
Speaker 1: and he is absolutely the best in the business. Whatever
Speaker 1: you thought you could be as a defensive tackle, he is,
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 4: He is that special. So it's weird. I'm spoiled. So
Speaker 4: but I do like some of these current guys. And
Speaker 4: these it's not a list of like who is one
Speaker 4: through three? These are three of my favorite guys to watch.
Speaker 4: You started at number three, Well, let's go with number three.
Speaker 4: I'll start it with Chris Jones from Kansas City to Chiefs.
Speaker 4: He's fantastic, eighty career sacks, eighty plus career sacks. All
Speaker 4: he does is go up and down the line of
Speaker 4: scrimmage and win. He's six foot six, three hundred and
Speaker 4: five pounds. Once he sinks that rip, forget it. If
Speaker 4: you give him your chest, you were going backwards. If
Speaker 4: you give him your hands you're gonna hit nothing but vapor.
Speaker 4: His technique is absolutely flawless. He pursues like a bansheet.
Speaker 4: Played a lot of football as all the Chiefs have,
Speaker 4: but he's still making plays. Chris Jones my third favorite
Speaker 4: to watch. I mean, just look, you can teach off
Speaker 4: that tape right there. The next guy I like is
Speaker 4: a dude named Cam Hayward. Have you seen him before
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. Imagine if you're at a stoplight and there's
Speaker 4: a dump truck and all of a sudden, that thing
Speaker 4: does a wheeling. That's what Cam Hayward is. You guys,
Speaker 4: remember Chech from mcgloxon back in the day of Quesse
Speaker 4: The same thing. The knock on Chester is he only
Speaker 4: played when he wanted to. Well, imagine if Chester played
Speaker 4: every single play like that, Well that would be Cam
Speaker 4: hay Now he's also six foot five, but he's built perfect.
Speaker 4: If you ask me, he's got a squatty lower body
Speaker 4: and a longer torso and long levers. I don't know
Speaker 4: why you try to run the ball to him, because
Speaker 4: all you do is go backwards and you just he
Speaker 4: just ruined stuff. And he's a really good pass wrest
Speaker 4: Vitavea is a great question. This guy has more questions
Speaker 4: than answers. And the last this is Shawn's Cam Hayward.
Speaker 4: Here we go two of my favorite pass rushes in life,
Speaker 4: Dexter Manley and Lawrence Taylor. If you can bind them,
Speaker 4: you get sexy. Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's perfect.
Speaker 4: He is two guys wide. He played. He essentially plays
Speaker 4: a two gap. No matter what scheme, you're in his
Speaker 4: body and the body he's shoving the guard or the
Speaker 4: guard into that hole. And on a pass rush again,
Speaker 4: if you can't anchor in there. Look, this is the
Speaker 4: one from Seattle. This was ridiculous. This is consecutive plays
Speaker 4: to end the game. It was absolutely a nightmare. I mean,
Speaker 4: imagine watching that on film, getting ready for that on Sunday.
Speaker 4: You won't sleep in that. That's an ambient player right there.
Speaker 4: Lawrence my favorite defensive tackle to watch. There were a
Speaker 4: lot of good players this year, a lot of guys
Speaker 4: I'm leaving out. Kalaias Campbell turned back the clock. DeForrest
Speaker 4: Buckner is still a three technique terror. Matta Brieke from
Speaker 4: Baltimore is also a guy I like. The problem is
Speaker 4: he's surrounded by five other Pro bowlers he is, so
Speaker 4: he has a lot of help. So if you look
Speaker 4: at Dexter Lawrence, I think he's their only pro bowler
Speaker 4: on defense and he's a wrecking machine. So those are
Speaker 4: my favorite, my favorite dts to watch. I know you
Speaker 4: hated watching that and had to.
Speaker 2: You said the word nightmare and that was nightmare fuel
Speaker 2: And people ask you, you know, do you miss playing
Speaker 2: the game as a quarterback? And then you watch a
Speaker 2: cut up like that, and I remember why I retired
Speaker 2: those red dot players. I've talked about this all the time.
Speaker 2: When you put the laser pointer in the film room
Speaker 2: on a guy that can disrupt a game plan, those
Speaker 2: are three perfect examples. It is a nightmare for opposing offensive.
Speaker 4: I like this because we're in the age of gurus
Speaker 4: McVeigh O'Connell. All these guys are offensive gurus. Well, this
Speaker 4: is the guy. These are the guys that ruin whatever
Speaker 4: you worked one hundred percent, no matter what game plan
Speaker 4: you thought you had. If you can't block them, game over.
Speaker 4: I am game over. I love the list. I love
Speaker 4: Chester maclachdin name drop. Haven't heard his name on the
Speaker 4: show in longer rest. What hurts Dexter Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Is when we show him in those idiotic uniforms, they
Speaker 1: were God, he looks like half the player. You can't
Speaker 1: show those uniforms.
Speaker 4: You don't like those Week one against Biggs. Don't care,
Speaker 4: I don't, we don't care. No put it so.
Speaker 1: More to the point, though, so you mentioned that when
Speaker 1: he actually had basically called game and finished the game
Speaker 1: from the defensive tackle position, almost impossible to do. You
Speaker 1: also saw a guy up close because you cover the Rams.
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter closed the game on the Rams. I mean
Speaker 1: they were about to win. He decided, no, I think
Speaker 1: we'll win this game. I mean he's not in your
Speaker 1: top three, but his potential.
Speaker 4: So initially the list was five. He was number five,
Speaker 4: and I should got some of the veteran guys off
Speaker 4: because of him, because I think we haven't reached the
Speaker 4: ceiling with him, and he's as good as everyone else
Speaker 4: on that list that's been in the league four or five,
Speaker 4: eight seasons long, so we're just getting started with him.
Speaker 4: It's a baby bear, huge pause. He's got another one
Speaker 4: hundred pounds to grow, and he's that I mean, he's
Speaker 4: double meat.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: There was a little interaction between him and Verse before
Speaker 4: that game right there, that really got your your eyes
Speaker 4: went wide, like are these guys gonna go right here?
Speaker 4: Like Jared Versus is a guy that doesn't back up,
Speaker 4: and he just met his brother in Jalen Carter, so
Speaker 4: he will also be on that list. But at some point,
Speaker 4: when all these guys cycle out, I believe Jalen Carter
Speaker 4: will ascend it to the number one spot.
Speaker 3: Wait, so before that game, we saw the two of
Speaker 3: them walking around the field, Jalen Carter Jared Verus. If
Speaker 3: Verse has said all that stuff because he's from Pennsylvania
Speaker 3: about Philly and Eagles fans, and so now you're saying
Speaker 3: that it was an actual interaction that happened.
Speaker 4: That was Jalen Carter bet his game check on the game.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if Verse took him up on it,
Speaker 4: but it was interesting. Look, if you're gonna talk stuff
Speaker 4: Jared Verse and he's not. I love the way he talks,
Speaker 4: and he was Rookie of the Year, so he's gonna
Speaker 4: talk even more. But if you talk about a man's house,
Speaker 4: Jalen Carter's house is that stadium. He's going to protect it.
Speaker 4: So he did exactly what you need to do. You
Speaker 4: don't get to come in here and talk trash without
Speaker 4: me saying something to you. And it was respect. And
Speaker 4: the crazy thing was it was at a level that
Speaker 4: I couldn't get to because they're both tall guys.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: But it was just like, Okay, I get it, they're
Speaker 4: both cut from the same clock. Carter literally said, I
Speaker 4: will bet you my game check. We win this game,
Speaker 4: bet the game check right there. He made the offer
Speaker 4: because Jared Vers had talked so much. He said, we're
Speaker 4: gonna come up there and win, So he said, bet
Speaker 4: your game check.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, cooler heads prevailed. They would in several directions. But yeah,
Speaker 4: we know what that's about. That's about protecting your house.
Speaker 2: Well, you just said number five. I'm intrigued. Are we
Speaker 2: going to get number four?
Speaker 4: Now? Leonard Williams from Seattle is a guy get eleven
Speaker 4: sacks an absolute beast. I mean really so when you
Speaker 4: talk about the Forrest Bucker and guys, they just tear
Speaker 4: up the be gap. Here's another one. All he does
Speaker 4: is rip the upside shoulder of the guard and take
Speaker 4: him back to the quarterback. And you know, it gets
Speaker 4: in your vision, it gets in your brain. He slips
Speaker 4: off to inside and outside. He's got a great spin
Speaker 4: move for a big dude. So all these guys are
Speaker 4: wrecking machines and they have just taken over for Aaron
Speaker 4: Donald as the interior pass rush threats in the National
Speaker 4: Football League.
Speaker 2: I was with Leonard Williams at USC and I remember
Speaker 2: when he got there as a freshman. When he was
Speaker 2: and he did not go to scout team. He went
Speaker 2: straight to the ones and we were doing one on
Speaker 2: ones during season or during otia was called springball in college.
Speaker 2: We had to tell him to slow down because he
Speaker 2: was being our offensive lineman too, and he was getting
Speaker 2: too close to the quarterback. It was one of those
Speaker 2: situations where he's a new face freshman. He doesn't understand
Speaker 2: how it showed down. He has one speed, and I
Speaker 2: was terrified because he was that good as a freshman
Speaker 2: in college and anyone out there and had an All
Speaker 2: American season, he is I hate continuing to get better.
Speaker 4: To slow down. No, if you don't want me to
Speaker 4: go full speed, take me out of the.
Speaker 2: Did you hate? Did you hate the yellow jerseys for
Speaker 2: the quarterback?
Speaker 4: Hit you, but I'm not trying to hit you. But
Speaker 4: I got to get my work done.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: I can't be dancing on the line of I got
Speaker 4: to get my stuff done.
Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: All those guys Chris John's came were Dexter Lawrence, Jalen Carter.
Speaker 3: They're all on their first organization's first team. Still, why
Speaker 3: do you think it hasn't Leonard Williams experience like he's
Speaker 3: on his third team, the Seahawks.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. I think that might be for
Speaker 4: a team to answer. But his talent carries over. Okay,
Speaker 4: you know, like you said, sometimes it's the right guy,
Speaker 4: wrong spot. I think he's found the right spot in Seattle.
Speaker 2: Let's call us go that the.
Speaker 7: Mind control the body, not the body control the mind.
Speaker 2: I got you there, Bo. You know I'll let you
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 4: We said we're going into fourth quarter and we wanted.
Speaker 2: Give it.
Speaker 4: You're all wait her Gate football. There's only one way
Speaker 4: we know.
Speaker 8: How to play the game. I think everybody's kind of
Speaker 8: gotten a kick out of Jimmy and Jerry and thinking
Speaker 8: that we were at each other's worl. When you win
Speaker 8: these kind of things, the only thing you're gonna do
Speaker 8: at each other's throat to tugget.
Speaker 2: And only thing else I got to say is.
Speaker 3: One of the most likable characters on television that you
Speaker 3: have watched for the last thirty plus years, just on
Speaker 3: Fox alone. But that doesn't count his coaching career. After
Speaker 3: thirty one years at Fox Sports, Hall of Fame coach
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson is walking away from broadcasting. He announced his
Speaker 3: retirement from the show and the network yesterday. So we
Speaker 3: all want to go on the table and just speak
Speaker 3: to what came to our mind when we heard that
Speaker 3: after three decades of talking about full football on our TVs,
Speaker 3: Jimmy calling it a career. Kyle, I know you responded
Speaker 3: well to it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean disbelief.
Speaker 1: Since I've been in seventh grade, Terry Howie and Jimmy,
Speaker 1: and then you know straighthand Joins. But those guys, they're
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices. They never leave, They're always there.
Speaker 4: They're just there's someone you can rely on.
Speaker 1: They're one of the pillars, not only in a studio show,
Speaker 1: just of the whole NFL experience as a fan is
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson and that Fox desk. So it's crazy to
Speaker 1: me and I I have so many memories of Jimmy Johnson. Obviously,
Speaker 1: as a coach, but as a broadcaster, and it's I
Speaker 1: love watching him so much. And it's funny for me
Speaker 1: because when I was a child, I hated Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 4: Because I listen.
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when he was coaching something
Speaker 1: called college football, and I grew up a Notre Dame fan.
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how evil Jimmy Johnson was as
Speaker 1: the head coach of Miami and everything they represent and
Speaker 1: the you and the swagger and the talking and all
Speaker 1: the crazy future pros. To a kid who's a Notre
Speaker 1: Dame fan, that's evil personified.
Speaker 4: I hated that. What's up with the hair and what's
Speaker 4: up with the yelling? I hate that guy. And sure enough,
Speaker 4: when he came on the.
Speaker 1: Show a couple of years ago, I just straight up
Speaker 1: asked him, and of course he was generous and he
Speaker 1: credited his players.
Speaker 4: Jame.
Speaker 1: I grew up in the subjurbs of Chicago, the son
Speaker 1: of a Notre Dame alumnus, and I lived and breathed
Speaker 1: Notre Dame football, including in the late eighties mid eighties,
Speaker 1: and I looked at these guys down from Florida with
Speaker 1: the you on their helmets. It's just this evil empire
Speaker 1: and you were the emperor. You were a great, great,
Speaker 1: great figure in college football. What do you when you
Speaker 1: look back on your days as the head coach of
Speaker 1: Miami and all the incredible players and coaches you worked with.
Speaker 4: What comes to mind? And we read about it in
Speaker 4: the book.
Speaker 7: We had so many great players, you know. When I
Speaker 7: went to Dallas, you know, I thought I was a
Speaker 7: great football coach, and then when I saw the talent
Speaker 7: in Dallas, how far down it was. I realized I
Speaker 7: won all those games at Miami because we had better
Speaker 7: players than everybody else.
Speaker 2: And he did and he always did.
Speaker 1: And I'll just be brief here, but I'll just say
Speaker 1: is thank you so much to Jimmy Johnson for so
Speaker 1: many years, not only his coaching but as broadcasting.
Speaker 4: He's this guy.
Speaker 1: You would see him show up on Sundays and give
Speaker 1: his takes and you loved him so much because of
Speaker 1: what he accomplished the NFL. And then he would go
Speaker 1: off and like go sail fishing or something, and this
Speaker 1: crazy thing down he's like this dream Jimmy Buffett meets
Speaker 1: John Madden type life that I respect so much, and
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him and I hope he enjoys
Speaker 1: his leisure.
Speaker 4: And I just said thank you for so many years coach.
Speaker 4: You know, getting around with all the you know, ex
Speaker 4: players and talking about coaching. We're talking about Vermeil, how
Speaker 4: hard he worked us, and you talk to you guys
Speaker 4: from Miami or Dallas. You know what was Jimmy like?
Speaker 4: And I remember the quote was and Jimmy makes water
Speaker 4: taste great.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: That means you're working hard. It's hot out there. He
Speaker 4: does not care about you, but he cares about your
Speaker 4: great coach. So I thought, this is crazy. So when
Speaker 4: you think about coaches that have done it at both
Speaker 4: levels college and bro and got to the top of both, yep,
Speaker 4: there's not that many. So when you start telling the
Speaker 4: history of football, not just pro football, but football period
Speaker 4: and you talk about its best coaches, Jimmy Johnson is
Speaker 4: going to be on your short list, probably top three,
Speaker 4: special coach, special career, funny on TV, like you said,
Speaker 4: something to aspire to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a huge part of my childhood too.
Speaker 2: I remember waking up on Sundays and watching him on Fox,
Speaker 2: and I thought the most interesting thing was he's won
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls. He's a national Champion, Pro Football Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame, but he said the most fun he had
Speaker 2: was being a broadcaster at Fox, and that shined through
Speaker 2: and it's something that inspired me. Well, you know, going
Speaker 2: into this broadcasting side of things right now, you can
Speaker 2: tell when you had a coach or a former player,
Speaker 2: just anyone who loves the game of football, when they
Speaker 2: would talk to the audience, you could fill that shine
Speaker 2: through the TV, right and it made you invest in
Speaker 2: to wanting to hear what he had to say. So
Speaker 2: it's a better sweet moment for the sports world. You know,
Speaker 2: I wish him a happy retirement. I selfishly wish he
Speaker 2: was going to be around football, but his legacy will
Speaker 2: live forever and his impact on the game will last
Speaker 2: for a very long time.
Speaker 4: I do it.
Speaker 3: I know I can't speak to him as a rough
Speaker 3: and tumble, hard nosed football coach. That's not who my
Speaker 3: memory lies.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 3: That's the Jimmy Johnson I know is watching him on television.
Speaker 3: That man just brought so much. He just listens to
Speaker 3: people with the smile. That was only a couple months
Speaker 3: on this show when he came on that interview that
Speaker 3: Kyle just reference and first of all. I just couldn't
Speaker 3: believe that, Like GMFB is so cool. We just get
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson, like on a Tuesday to come on and
Speaker 3: talk to us, and he seems so invested in it.
Speaker 3: I think he is one of the most relatable men
Speaker 3: on television. He works with Carissa Thompson and he's going
Speaker 3: to be eighty two this summer. Like that, for him
Speaker 3: to still bring youthful, joyful energy to the game of
Speaker 3: football and have it relate to everybody is a great
Speaker 3: gift and a great skill. Jimmy Johnson, you are awesome.
Speaker 3: We love having you on the show and will never
Speaker 3: turn you down if you want to come on and
Speaker 3: talk football.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't just retire.
Speaker 3: You can retire from Fox, but maybe not from Imagine.
Speaker 1: Just imagine coaching Michael Irvin and his prime and it's
Speaker 1: admits and all those players, I mean all the not
Speaker 1: just the talent, but they have stories.
Speaker 4: God for the third Super Bowl, of course, of course
Speaker 4: he's won three Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I give Tony Dungee credit for your Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: That's right, yes they do. It's three three.
Speaker 2: This is my seventh day on Good Morning Football, And
Speaker 2: the first thing that I learned was that this is
Speaker 2: the best football show on television right everyone in the scenes,
Speaker 2: to the co host, to the producers, everyone involved. The
Speaker 2: second thing that I learned is be very careful about
Speaker 2: the stories that you tell during commercial breaks to the
Speaker 2: producers about your bad days in football, because they will
Speaker 2: not only go find the tape, but make you relive
Speaker 2: it on national television. And that's exactly what we are doing.
Speaker 2: On this segment. We're going to take a look at
Speaker 2: my first series as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I'll lay the foundation a little bit. The scene is
Speaker 2: is that I'm a third round pick in twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Browns. I have Robert Griffin the third
Speaker 2: ahead of me. I have Josh mccount ahead of me.
Speaker 2: I am told that I'm going to quote unquote NFL
Speaker 2: red shirt. Well, the first game, RGI three gets hurt,
Speaker 2: he's out weeks. The second game, Josh McCown gets hurt,
Speaker 2: he's out eight to ten weeks. So long, and behold
Speaker 2: week three, I am starting against the Miami Dolphins at
Speaker 2: hard Rock Stadium. We're going to take a look at
Speaker 2: that series and why it went so wrong, and just
Speaker 2: give a little heads up to some of the rookies
Speaker 2: in the combine and what it's going to look like
Speaker 2: when you get the NFL. Hopefully it's not this bad.
Speaker 2: So the first play we're going to look at, first
Speaker 2: play of your career is I have been working all week, Kyle, preparing,
Speaker 2: staying late, first guy in, last guy out. Let's go,
Speaker 2: doing everything I can to be ready for this game.
Speaker 2: I feel great and warm ups. I tell Josh McCown
Speaker 2: I'm not nervous. I'm ready for the moment. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: first play we're going to get out there, you're going
Speaker 2: to see little bit of a funky look, a unique
Speaker 2: Jackson play. Tackles are going to be out wide. We're
Speaker 2: going to have guard center on the inside. If we
Speaker 2: like to look, we say hurry, Harry said, hut. If
Speaker 2: we don't like the look, we shift everybody in. Well,
Speaker 2: I try to say hurry, Harry said, hut. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2: I panic, so I try to shift everybody in. No
Speaker 2: one can hear me. It's too loud in there. I'm
Speaker 2: not loud enough. I'm nervous. And then sure enough you'll
Speaker 2: see what happens after that sick look.
Speaker 9: So here is chess learn you will whirlwind of the
Speaker 9: week's sixpin for that young man. As the twenty three
Speaker 9: year old takes his first career NFL snap first and
Speaker 9: ten from just outside the Dolphins thirty.
Speaker 2: Lay clock down to zeros.
Speaker 4: And a flag is.
Speaker 2: Thrown play a game offense penally, still first.
Speaker 10: Down and already seeing spirerou the rookie mistakes Cody Cassel
Speaker 10: in his first career start gets a delay of game penalty.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: This is only the first play, first play, that was
Speaker 2: the first year to start. Well, you could see me
Speaker 2: go hurry, Harry said. Hut. I tried to get the
Speaker 2: ball snapped. No one can hear me, So I go
Speaker 2: to panic mode. There's about eight seconds left on the
Speaker 2: play clock. I try to shift everybody. I knew at
Speaker 2: this point it was going to be delay game, but
Speaker 2: I'm a rookie, so I can't call time out. That
Speaker 2: is the head coach really have that luxury yet because
Speaker 2: freaking out her Harry Hery hurt.
Speaker 3: A decision that was like rookie does he doesn't need
Speaker 3: an offense of line play.
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's a little bit of.
Speaker 4: We all have the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's your first play play, Maybe you just get
Speaker 1: the train on the tracks, run everybody.
Speaker 4: Up, and you run it off tackles.
Speaker 2: We want to invent the wheel with the Kessler Express
Speaker 2: over here.
Speaker 4: Well we do weave.
Speaker 2: That was the perfect that was the perfect tea up
Speaker 2: for the second place. That's what we ended up doing.
Speaker 2: So now you are first and fifteen. I am flustered.
Speaker 2: The broadcasters are very generous, being nice.
Speaker 3: Zero Das and Solomon wilcott So Solomon Wilcotts on CBS
Speaker 3: is the one that said.
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're already getting under the rookie mistakes. Oh
Speaker 2: it gets worsehing great. Okay, So the second play here,
Speaker 2: we do go to a run play and we just
Speaker 2: give the bald Isaiah Crow well, very easy, get the
Speaker 2: whole power formation, hand it off to pick up seven
Speaker 2: or eight yards.
Speaker 4: That's a big play.
Speaker 2: And now we go from first and fifteen to second
Speaker 2: and eight.
Speaker 4: Okay, there do you go.
Speaker 2: Everything's going the right way. Now we go to the
Speaker 2: third play.
Speaker 4: Let the kid throw.
Speaker 2: We're going to run the football again. Ay, so we
Speaker 2: have a belue that we're going to the left. This
Speaker 2: is a check with me type play. That means we
Speaker 2: want to run to the three technique. That is when
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle is on the shade of the right
Speaker 2: guard right and we're running away from the shade, which
Speaker 2: means the note tackle is head up or to the
Speaker 2: left side of the center. So I walk up there,
Speaker 2: did all my prep. You're gonna hear me say, opie, opie.
Speaker 2: That means opposite, opposite, got it. So we're going from
Speaker 2: left to right. I am feeling great about myself. I
Speaker 2: worked all week. I did my prep. Opi, opie. We're
Speaker 2: good to go. Great call. I get a look from
Speaker 2: the center saying hey, wait to go, and then you
Speaker 2: see what happens.
Speaker 9: Second and eighth No.
Speaker 2: From the Dolphins, thirty two, very hurried.
Speaker 9: Step is fumbled by Kessler and a shaky start continues.
Speaker 9: Kessler able to fall on the football, and you just
Speaker 9: can't even imagine what's going through this kid's mind.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 2: That's a very ragged start.
Speaker 10: Butterflies are swirling, everything's happening and going one hundred miles
Speaker 10: an hour. You can see the snap right there from
Speaker 10: number seventy seven.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm thinking DeMarco is gonna kill you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's my quarterback. What
Speaker 2: do you think it has a defensive alignment on the
Speaker 2: sideline right now, and mind you.
Speaker 4: From your first play, I'm like, this kid doesn't know
Speaker 4: what he's doing.
Speaker 2: He just does the ball first. They got it or
Speaker 2: are you was out their first mind gets ball first,
Speaker 2: they get an interception and give.
Speaker 4: Us great, Oh my god, you're ruined the turnip.
Speaker 2: And them all exactly what happened.
Speaker 1: So after the first play, we're all screaming at the
Speaker 1: coach why would you run?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 3: It's like, this is what happened, butterfly swirling.
Speaker 2: You want to know? The worst part hole is getting
Speaker 2: in the huddle and looking at Joe Thomas staring at
Speaker 2: you as a rookie saying, is this what I'm in
Speaker 2: for today? And I'm trying to be positive and I
Speaker 2: am absolutely flustered. So today you don't think it can
Speaker 2: get worse?
Speaker 3: You just said the guys are off right to ten
Speaker 3: weeks to Thomas.
Speaker 4: Is thinking this is the next eight weeks in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So it can't get worse, right,
Speaker 2: it gets worse, that's not rock bottom. So now we're
Speaker 2: at third and eight. This is so great. So we
Speaker 2: called screen pass to Gary barnas a little tight end scream,
Speaker 2: we're feeling good. Pump to the right, go back to
Speaker 2: the left. When you're a young quarterback, even in middle school,
Speaker 2: they teach you you either get it to the tight
Speaker 2: end on the screen. If it's not there, dirt it
Speaker 2: and throw it away. Right. That's simple. Sof you talked
Speaker 2: yesterday you want to be Superman? When to be Clark?
Speaker 2: Got to know the difference. In my defense, You'll see
Speaker 2: Gary Barnes get held a little bit. It's a miss call.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna blame in the restaurant. What did you do?
Speaker 2: But I dropped back. I try to get it to
Speaker 2: Gary Barnge. I'm gonna pump right. Look at Gary Barnage
Speaker 2: and he's gonna get held up a little bit and
Speaker 2: instead of dirting it, you're gonna see what happens. And
Speaker 2: it's absolute disaster.
Speaker 9: Third and nine, Kessler under pressure, sex football comes loose,
Speaker 9: Miami has it.
Speaker 11: Cameron Wake strikes early in this ball game. You can
Speaker 11: see Cody Kessler is not used to the tempo at
Speaker 11: the timing in which the ball has to come out,
Speaker 11: and Hugh Jackson can't be happy with the decision making
Speaker 11: a poor decision of his quarterback.
Speaker 2: Does that hurt. Yeah, true story. He that was Cameron
Speaker 2: Wake gave me a dead leg. You can see me
Speaker 2: limping off that hurt for probably a week and a half.
Speaker 2: The next week we play Washington at Washington. We had
Speaker 2: to wrap it up with a pad because I could
Speaker 2: barely walk. You shoulder does your leg his knee, Yah,
Speaker 2: caught me in the side of the leg. Gave me
Speaker 2: a dead leg. So I'll tell you what. It does
Speaker 2: get a little better. There is a happy ending of this.
Speaker 2: So you see me limping off a little bit right there.
Speaker 2: I go to the sideline and I'll never forget Josh
Speaker 2: McCown comes up and sits next to me in a
Speaker 2: sling catch me on the leg and he said, I
Speaker 2: think you're ready now, and I'm looking I'm head down
Speaker 2: to look at him and I can just and per
Speaker 2: just disbelief. I'm like, you think so? And he was like,
Speaker 2: I know so. And I kind of had that moment.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, You're right? So came back
Speaker 2: out ended up going for twenty one to thirty three
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty four yards. Played well. I had
Speaker 2: some big time throws in that game. Twelve prior, one
Speaker 2: receiver yet some big time plays as well, and then
Speaker 2: ended up getting we were down I think eleven came
Speaker 2: back and tied it up at the end of the game,
Speaker 2: hit Gary Barnes on a two point conversion, and then
Speaker 2: we had a chance, we had a forty five yard
Speaker 2: er at the end of regulation to win the game,
Speaker 2: ended up missing it go to overtime. We ended up
Speaker 2: but it was nice to kind of have that wake
Speaker 2: up call. You're welcome to the NFL moment and you
Speaker 2: may think, you know, it could have been worse. I
Speaker 2: don't think it could have been. I would rather thrown
Speaker 2: a pick six, been over with. Okay, got that out
Speaker 2: of my system and go. It was three plays in
Speaker 2: a row to where the worst thing that could have
Speaker 2: happened happened, but I felt like I was better for it.
Speaker 3: That wasn't just a wake up call, man. That was
Speaker 3: like you didn't even hit the snooze button. You got
Speaker 3: jarred awake so badly by hotel banging on your door
Speaker 3: saying get up your thirty five minutes late to something
Speaker 3: that was like that was like you said every single
Speaker 3: bad thing that could have happened to you, and look
Speaker 3: at what you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. Thank you Jamie for uping in
Speaker 2: a little bit. No, I mean none of us, we're
Speaker 2: all laughing.
Speaker 4: Non us have ever played a snap of Hey, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, it's no, it's a cool story now though,
Speaker 2: because I ended up. You know, that was some tough
Speaker 2: times in Cleveland. But that rookie year, I did play
Speaker 2: reasonably well, had some good games, and it was it
Speaker 2: was nice to get that out of the way early, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to scare all the rookies that
Speaker 2: are going to the NFL, but you are going to
Speaker 2: have a welcome to the NFL moment. Yeah, unfortunately might
Speaker 2: happen right away, or fortunately I guess happened right away
Speaker 2: and I got it over with. But that was cool.
Speaker 2: That's a trip down memory lane.
Speaker 4: The game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost, Yeah, we had, we had a chance,
Speaker 2: we had, we came back, we were down fourteen, came
Speaker 2: back and had chance to tie it up at the
Speaker 2: inn of regulation, missed a kick, went to overtime.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, how the coin toss go?
Speaker 2: And then yeah, so oh I looked it up.
Speaker 4: Wow, I looked it up.
Speaker 2: So the coin toss, we end up going out there
Speaker 2: for the coin. That's a true story.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 2: You can go look it up. This, we tie it up,
Speaker 2: we come back, have a chance in regulation, miss a kick,
Speaker 2: all right, cool, we're going overtime. Fine, we win the
Speaker 2: coin toss two overtime and we elect to kick off
Speaker 2: instead of taking let's kick, we like to kick off.
Speaker 1: And because they got to get the ball, Kessler last thing.
Speaker 2: Now there we go so unfortunately and we stopped them.
Speaker 2: We got the ball back, We drove a little bit,
Speaker 2: got stopped and then they went down.
Speaker 1: And no one breaks my heart in the play with
Speaker 1: this with the strip sack. So you pump right yep,
Speaker 1: you look to barnage and then there's this half second where.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm going to make a play, but I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna be like just that little second, you're like, I got.
Speaker 2: The because you know how bad the first couple of
Speaker 2: plays went, yeah, and I thought, I've got to make
Speaker 2: up for that. Now take off and run and show
Speaker 2: us athleticism.
Speaker 4: Bless you, codyat that was really cool segment.
Speaker 2: It's amazing that you did, very vulnerable initiate it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is not the proudest there there.
Speaker 4: Look that's the man. But everybody, oh my god, that
Speaker 4: need like like you need yeah, you deserve no padding
Speaker 4: on that. Cody, stand right up there and we'll re
Speaker 4: enact it. Go ahead, get on the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're here, Come on over here. You just
Speaker 2: looking at him? Go ahead, there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody the man forgetting really cool.
Speaker 3: I couldn't really job body to Marco?
Speaker 2: What did you do