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Speaker 2: Good that's right. This is Jim A. B.

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Speaker 3: Welcome and sign everybody. We're live in Los Angeles, Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: March fourth, Big Time Tuesday, Franchise Tag Day in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Jamie hear and all, Cody Castler, Kyle Brandt, and DeMarco

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Speaker 3: far back on the table to Marco.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, Thank you very much. I made it to

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Speaker 4: the table again. You did. I'm still trying to figure

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Speaker 4: out how to get here. Everywhere complicated. It's early in

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Speaker 4: Stark follow him, he doesn't, Ye, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: We'll go. There's a secret wet bar underneath this place.

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Speaker 1: You didn't tell me, Cody, come on, man.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday when we left, you didn't tell me about the

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Speaker 2: wet bar. I didn't know about this.

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Speaker 4: I go back in your book and the piano key

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Speaker 4: and there's a bar. Awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's unfortunately that we had to work at nine am

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Speaker 3: and then it's a little nine p two o'clock sent

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Speaker 3: work all right. Awesome to have everybody here at the table.

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Speaker 3: We have Ian Rappaport joining us today because of us.

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Speaker 3: Today is a bit of a calendar day in the

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Speaker 3: NFL rap sheet, What's up today is franchise tag day.

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Speaker 3: What is going on with a couple of the big

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Speaker 3: names it across the league. Let's start with a twenty

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Speaker 3: six year old wide receiver in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: The twenty six year old wide receiver who would be

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Speaker 5: the top receiver on the market but now is going

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Speaker 5: to be franchise tags again. That is t Higgins, the

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Speaker 5: star for the Cincinnati Bengals twenty six point two million

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Speaker 5: dollars franchise tag. As I mentioned, just like last year,

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Speaker 5: Bengals Lockerman make sure and so when it would be

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Speaker 5: the best receiver on the market is not going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: They would like to work out a.

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Speaker 5: Long term deal with Tea, obviously, they have a lot

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Speaker 5: to do. They have Jamar Chase where they'd like to

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Speaker 5: work out a long term deal with. They have Trey

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Speaker 5: be traded. They want to keep him in as well Taggans,

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Speaker 5: so when they see is a big part of their future.

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow has been outspoken about this, with some work

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Speaker 5: and this is after a conversation with Sam Leaf of

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Speaker 5: Balandi Sports, his agent, the Cowboys are likely to franchise

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Speaker 5: tag Osa today. They have been working on a long

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Speaker 5: term deal something they would pay him an excess of

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Speaker 5: twenty million dollars, and at various times there's been momentum

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Speaker 5: toward a deal. But as of this very second, the

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Speaker 5: on a said deal over the next several weeks and months.

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Speaker 5: And then there's a situation surrounding Sam Donald, the Minnesota

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Speaker 5: Vikings starting quarterback last year one of the best stories

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Speaker 4: And I think if you had taken most.

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Speaker 5: Of the year, you'd say, you know what, Obviously Donald's

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Speaker 5: going to be the Vikings starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Move on.

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Speaker 5: The last two games were a little bit different the Vikings.

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Speaker 5: Here's my understanding. This is something I'm reporting with collegue

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Speaker 5: is for sure going to have suitors. The Vikings would

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Speaker 3: Right, rap sheet, We appreciate that. So to not interpret

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Speaker 3: It's either decide to move on from a guy that

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Speaker 2: I think, in my opinion, that it would be best

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Speaker 2: We all know the entire topic all off Saton off

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Speaker 2: season is going to be McCarthy verse Sam Donald. Who's

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Speaker 2: the Vikings need to do right by JJ McCarthy. They

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Speaker 2: if you keep Sam Donald around, who's only twenty seven

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Speaker 2: in this, he's not a thirty five to forty year

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Speaker 4: Been a lot man in twenty seven years.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's not on his way out of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Right is if he plays well again, going to be

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Speaker 2: think that just does a disservice to JJ McCarthy. It's

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Speaker 2: going to disrupt his momentum. It's going to hurt him

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Speaker 2: You start having that doubt creeping a little bit a

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Speaker 2: they think Sam Donald is a guy? I just think

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Speaker 2: it's going to hurt J McCarthy. But this is a

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Speaker 2: perfect example of being in the right place at the

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Speaker 2: this at all. Our discussion is now about if Sam

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Speaker 2: going to be paid fifty million dollars a year?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they would do that, but at very

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Speaker 2: the other difficult thing about this is if Sam does leave,

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Speaker 2: how Sam played. The question becomes, but why do you

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Speaker 2: if we could have built that momentum that Sam had

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Speaker 1: It's really well put in. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: really interesting situation. I don't have an immediate opinion on

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Speaker 1: either way. I understand both sides, and I sympathize with

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Speaker 1: both sides. Let's just remember what happened last year, and

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Speaker 1: he has this unbelievably great season, and I think is

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Speaker 1: truly one of the stories of the entire season in

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Speaker 4: The last two games were horrible. That's horrible.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, dream season, not only for him, for the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: the last two games that he started, they lost fifty

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Speaker 4: Something was going on.

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Speaker 1: If you've watched him all season, like we all have,

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Speaker 4: It's not good. It's not good, and I think I left.

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Speaker 1: A very very strong memory in Vikings, fans, hearts, heads, everything.

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Speaker 4: It was tough to watch. It just didn't look like

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Speaker 4: the same player thirty five and fourteen. I mean, which

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Speaker 4: most of the year, or the last two games something happened.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you that last playoff game, he did

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Speaker 4: I think that was the reason the Rams won that game.

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Speaker 4: Had moved on. Sam Donald's a good quarterback. I think

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Speaker 4: he's going to find a home someplace. I think there's

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Speaker 4: a right fit. It's the downside of being a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: You can only play one at the time, so you

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Speaker 4: let him do what he does best. I still think

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Speaker 4: there's something special there. But like you said with JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 4: there's so much invested in him. They love him, they

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Speaker 4: want him to be the guy. I think Sam is

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Speaker 4: teams that need quarterbacks and he'll be right at the

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Speaker 4: top of that free agent list. But I thought Kevin

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Speaker 4: O'Connell said it perfectly. We're going to let him test

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Speaker 4: So that told you everything you need to know about

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Speaker 4: Sam Donald. But at some point we're gonna find out

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Speaker 4: which is the real guy, the guy we saw during

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Speaker 4: the end that didn't look so good versus Detroit, Nola.

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Speaker 4: Yeah more yeah, just echoing what these people are saying.

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Speaker 4: And I think a lot of times Jamie will know

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Speaker 4: go to the top shelf when we get the dating metaphor.

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Speaker 1: And this is just on a tee. So what happened

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Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. Let's tell the story of it from

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Speaker 1: relatable terms.

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Speaker 4: We do do this a lot. This is like one

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Speaker 4: of the best.

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Speaker 2: Ones ever, good one.

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Speaker 1: All right, So you go out on a date with

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Speaker 1: this guy, all right, it's a Sam Donald and it's

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Speaker 1: really really going well. He didn't even think you were

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Speaker 1: going to be going on. I've always known him as always

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Speaker 4: Been a friend.

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Speaker 1: But that ship, we'll go out unbelievably charming and chanting,

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Speaker 1: wonderful restaurant, Scandinavian food.

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Speaker 4: It's just great.

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Speaker 1: The conversation is good, it's clever. He's treating the servers

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Speaker 1: really well. There's even handhold is like the best day

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Speaker 1: they've ever been in my life. That was the season

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Speaker 1: last year. Okay, we're like, let's go home. He's driving

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Speaker 1: home and the conversations pleasant. It's just wonderful, beautiful night

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Speaker 1: and out of nowhere, he's like you might have been

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Speaker 1: put on the radio and he puts on like intense

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Speaker 2: Oh the way back.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, we're kind of going he's kind of preaching.

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Speaker 1: He's like, where did this go?

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Speaker 3: No, he's a great guy, but I think he's too

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Speaker 4: I think he's invaluable, but I really do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald should sign a two year deal for twenty

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Speaker 4: That's bad. Ye would hang out with Nell. He was there.

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Speaker 3: But you're still humming your joyous tunes before during a

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Speaker 4: I hope that doesn't bother you, guys. I just sing

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Speaker 4: You started at number three, Well, let's go with number three.

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Speaker 4: Played a lot of football as all the Chiefs have,

436
00:17:37,108 --> 00:17:40,308
Speaker 4: but he's still making plays. Chris Jones my third favorite

437
00:17:40,348 --> 00:17:42,388
Speaker 4: to watch. I mean, just look, you can teach off

438
00:17:42,428 --> 00:17:45,228
Speaker 4: that tape right there. The next guy I like is

439
00:17:45,268 --> 00:17:47,668
Speaker 4: a dude named Cam Hayward. Have you seen him before

440
00:17:47,668 --> 00:17:51,268
Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh. Imagine if you're at a stoplight and there's

441
00:17:51,268 --> 00:17:53,028
Speaker 4: a dump truck and all of a sudden, that thing

442
00:17:53,068 --> 00:17:55,708
Speaker 4: does a wheeling. That's what Cam Hayward is. You guys,

443
00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:57,708
Speaker 4: remember Chech from mcgloxon back in the day of Quesse

444
00:17:57,748 --> 00:17:59,668
Speaker 4: The same thing. The knock on Chester is he only

445
00:17:59,668 --> 00:18:01,868
Speaker 4: played when he wanted to. Well, imagine if Chester played

446
00:18:01,908 --> 00:18:04,188
Speaker 4: every single play like that, Well that would be Cam

447
00:18:04,188 --> 00:18:08,028
Speaker 4: hay Now he's also six foot five, but he's built perfect.

448
00:18:08,068 --> 00:18:10,348
Speaker 4: If you ask me, he's got a squatty lower body

449
00:18:10,388 --> 00:18:13,268
Speaker 4: and a longer torso and long levers. I don't know

450
00:18:13,308 --> 00:18:15,388
Speaker 4: why you try to run the ball to him, because

451
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:17,148
Speaker 4: all you do is go backwards and you just he

452
00:18:17,308 --> 00:18:19,428
Speaker 4: just ruined stuff. And he's a really good pass wrest

453
00:18:19,548 --> 00:18:22,428
Speaker 4: Vitavea is a great question. This guy has more questions

454
00:18:22,468 --> 00:18:26,108
Speaker 4: than answers. And the last this is Shawn's Cam Hayward.

455
00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:29,348
Speaker 4: Here we go two of my favorite pass rushes in life,

456
00:18:29,348 --> 00:18:31,788
Speaker 4: Dexter Manley and Lawrence Taylor. If you can bind them,

457
00:18:31,828 --> 00:18:36,108
Speaker 4: you get sexy. Lawrence.

458
00:18:36,188 --> 00:18:36,908
Speaker 2: Oh, that's perfect.

459
00:18:36,948 --> 00:18:39,868
Speaker 4: He is two guys wide. He played. He essentially plays

460
00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:42,228
Speaker 4: a two gap. No matter what scheme, you're in his

461
00:18:42,388 --> 00:18:44,908
Speaker 4: body and the body he's shoving the guard or the

462
00:18:44,908 --> 00:18:47,588
Speaker 4: guard into that hole. And on a pass rush again,

463
00:18:47,668 --> 00:18:49,668
Speaker 4: if you can't anchor in there. Look, this is the

464
00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:53,588
Speaker 4: one from Seattle. This was ridiculous. This is consecutive plays

465
00:18:53,588 --> 00:18:58,148
Speaker 4: to end the game. It was absolutely a nightmare. I mean,

466
00:18:58,308 --> 00:19:01,428
Speaker 4: imagine watching that on film, getting ready for that on Sunday.

467
00:19:01,748 --> 00:19:03,988
Speaker 4: You won't sleep in that. That's an ambient player right there.

468
00:19:04,668 --> 00:19:07,668
Speaker 4: Lawrence my favorite defensive tackle to watch. There were a

469
00:19:07,708 --> 00:19:09,508
Speaker 4: lot of good players this year, a lot of guys

470
00:19:09,508 --> 00:19:12,268
Speaker 4: I'm leaving out. Kalaias Campbell turned back the clock. DeForrest

471
00:19:12,268 --> 00:19:15,668
Speaker 4: Buckner is still a three technique terror. Matta Brieke from

472
00:19:15,708 --> 00:19:18,268
Speaker 4: Baltimore is also a guy I like. The problem is

473
00:19:18,308 --> 00:19:20,868
Speaker 4: he's surrounded by five other Pro bowlers he is, so

474
00:19:20,908 --> 00:19:22,548
Speaker 4: he has a lot of help. So if you look

475
00:19:22,548 --> 00:19:24,588
Speaker 4: at Dexter Lawrence, I think he's their only pro bowler

476
00:19:24,628 --> 00:19:26,788
Speaker 4: on defense and he's a wrecking machine. So those are

477
00:19:26,788 --> 00:19:29,268
Speaker 4: my favorite, my favorite dts to watch. I know you

478
00:19:29,268 --> 00:19:30,508
Speaker 4: hated watching that and had to.

479
00:19:30,748 --> 00:19:32,668
Speaker 2: You said the word nightmare and that was nightmare fuel

480
00:19:32,828 --> 00:19:34,508
Speaker 2: And people ask you, you know, do you miss playing

481
00:19:34,548 --> 00:19:36,388
Speaker 2: the game as a quarterback? And then you watch a

482
00:19:36,428 --> 00:19:37,948
Speaker 2: cut up like that, and I remember why I retired

483
00:19:38,468 --> 00:19:40,828
Speaker 2: those red dot players. I've talked about this all the time.

484
00:19:40,868 --> 00:19:42,508
Speaker 2: When you put the laser pointer in the film room

485
00:19:42,548 --> 00:19:44,788
Speaker 2: on a guy that can disrupt a game plan, those

486
00:19:44,788 --> 00:19:48,308
Speaker 2: are three perfect examples. It is a nightmare for opposing offensive.

487
00:19:48,028 --> 00:19:51,468
Speaker 4: I like this because we're in the age of gurus

488
00:19:52,028 --> 00:19:55,068
Speaker 4: McVeigh O'Connell. All these guys are offensive gurus. Well, this

489
00:19:55,228 --> 00:19:57,188
Speaker 4: is the guy. These are the guys that ruin whatever

490
00:19:57,228 --> 00:19:59,428
Speaker 4: you worked one hundred percent, no matter what game plan

491
00:19:59,508 --> 00:20:01,748
Speaker 4: you thought you had. If you can't block them, game over.

492
00:20:02,108 --> 00:20:03,948
Speaker 4: I am game over. I love the list. I love

493
00:20:04,428 --> 00:20:06,428
Speaker 4: Chester maclachdin name drop. Haven't heard his name on the

494
00:20:06,468 --> 00:20:09,988
Speaker 4: show in longer rest. What hurts Dexter Lawrence.

495
00:20:09,708 --> 00:20:11,668
Speaker 1: Is when we show him in those idiotic uniforms, they

496
00:20:11,708 --> 00:20:13,308
Speaker 1: were God, he looks like half the player. You can't

497
00:20:13,308 --> 00:20:14,028
Speaker 1: show those uniforms.

498
00:20:14,068 --> 00:20:18,108
Speaker 4: You don't like those Week one against Biggs. Don't care,

499
00:20:18,148 --> 00:20:21,228
Speaker 4: I don't, we don't care. No put it so.

500
00:20:21,428 --> 00:20:23,588
Speaker 1: More to the point, though, so you mentioned that when

501
00:20:23,588 --> 00:20:26,588
Speaker 1: he actually had basically called game and finished the game

502
00:20:26,588 --> 00:20:28,828
Speaker 1: from the defensive tackle position, almost impossible to do. You

503
00:20:28,868 --> 00:20:31,028
Speaker 1: also saw a guy up close because you cover the Rams.

504
00:20:31,228 --> 00:20:33,188
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter closed the game on the Rams. I mean

505
00:20:33,188 --> 00:20:35,028
Speaker 1: they were about to win. He decided, no, I think

506
00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:36,828
Speaker 1: we'll win this game. I mean he's not in your

507
00:20:36,828 --> 00:20:38,188
Speaker 1: top three, but his potential.

508
00:20:38,228 --> 00:20:40,228
Speaker 4: So initially the list was five. He was number five,

509
00:20:40,228 --> 00:20:41,788
Speaker 4: and I should got some of the veteran guys off

510
00:20:41,828 --> 00:20:44,588
Speaker 4: because of him, because I think we haven't reached the

511
00:20:44,588 --> 00:20:47,348
Speaker 4: ceiling with him, and he's as good as everyone else

512
00:20:47,388 --> 00:20:49,268
Speaker 4: on that list that's been in the league four or five,

513
00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:52,228
Speaker 4: eight seasons long, so we're just getting started with him.

514
00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:55,548
Speaker 4: It's a baby bear, huge pause. He's got another one

515
00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:58,348
Speaker 4: hundred pounds to grow, and he's that I mean, he's

516
00:20:58,348 --> 00:20:58,908
Speaker 4: double meat.

517
00:20:59,188 --> 00:20:59,308
Speaker 2: Uh.

518
00:20:59,348 --> 00:21:01,868
Speaker 4: There was a little interaction between him and Verse before

519
00:21:01,908 --> 00:21:04,828
Speaker 4: that game right there, that really got your your eyes

520
00:21:04,868 --> 00:21:06,868
Speaker 4: went wide, like are these guys gonna go right here?

521
00:21:07,148 --> 00:21:09,148
Speaker 4: Like Jared Versus is a guy that doesn't back up,

522
00:21:09,148 --> 00:21:11,388
Speaker 4: and he just met his brother in Jalen Carter, so

523
00:21:11,948 --> 00:21:14,948
Speaker 4: he will also be on that list. But at some point,

524
00:21:15,028 --> 00:21:17,588
Speaker 4: when all these guys cycle out, I believe Jalen Carter

525
00:21:17,668 --> 00:21:19,348
Speaker 4: will ascend it to the number one spot.

526
00:21:19,388 --> 00:21:21,268
Speaker 3: Wait, so before that game, we saw the two of

527
00:21:21,308 --> 00:21:23,508
Speaker 3: them walking around the field, Jalen Carter Jared Verus. If

528
00:21:23,588 --> 00:21:26,588
Speaker 3: Verse has said all that stuff because he's from Pennsylvania

529
00:21:26,628 --> 00:21:29,948
Speaker 3: about Philly and Eagles fans, and so now you're saying

530
00:21:29,988 --> 00:21:32,508
Speaker 3: that it was an actual interaction that happened.

531
00:21:32,548 --> 00:21:35,788
Speaker 4: That was Jalen Carter bet his game check on the game.

532
00:21:35,828 --> 00:21:37,388
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if Verse took him up on it,

533
00:21:37,428 --> 00:21:40,268
Speaker 4: but it was interesting. Look, if you're gonna talk stuff

534
00:21:40,348 --> 00:21:42,468
Speaker 4: Jared Verse and he's not. I love the way he talks,

535
00:21:42,508 --> 00:21:43,868
Speaker 4: and he was Rookie of the Year, so he's gonna

536
00:21:44,028 --> 00:21:46,868
Speaker 4: talk even more. But if you talk about a man's house,

537
00:21:47,228 --> 00:21:50,268
Speaker 4: Jalen Carter's house is that stadium. He's going to protect it.

538
00:21:50,588 --> 00:21:52,788
Speaker 4: So he did exactly what you need to do. You

539
00:21:52,828 --> 00:21:54,708
Speaker 4: don't get to come in here and talk trash without

540
00:21:54,708 --> 00:21:57,148
Speaker 4: me saying something to you. And it was respect. And

541
00:21:57,388 --> 00:21:59,468
Speaker 4: the crazy thing was it was at a level that

542
00:21:59,588 --> 00:22:01,748
Speaker 4: I couldn't get to because they're both tall guys.

543
00:22:01,508 --> 00:22:02,028
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

544
00:22:02,308 --> 00:22:03,908
Speaker 4: But it was just like, Okay, I get it, they're

545
00:22:03,948 --> 00:22:07,148
Speaker 4: both cut from the same clock. Carter literally said, I

546
00:22:07,188 --> 00:22:09,108
Speaker 4: will bet you my game check. We win this game,

547
00:22:09,588 --> 00:22:12,268
Speaker 4: bet the game check right there. He made the offer

548
00:22:12,428 --> 00:22:14,668
Speaker 4: because Jared Vers had talked so much. He said, we're

549
00:22:14,668 --> 00:22:16,588
Speaker 4: gonna come up there and win, So he said, bet

550
00:22:16,628 --> 00:22:17,228
Speaker 4: your game check.

551
00:22:17,788 --> 00:22:18,148
Speaker 7: Yeah.

552
00:22:18,188 --> 00:22:21,908
Speaker 4: Well, cooler heads prevailed. They would in several directions. But yeah,

553
00:22:21,948 --> 00:22:23,668
Speaker 4: we know what that's about. That's about protecting your house.

554
00:22:23,708 --> 00:22:25,668
Speaker 2: Well, you just said number five. I'm intrigued. Are we

555
00:22:25,668 --> 00:22:26,468
Speaker 2: going to get number four?

556
00:22:26,468 --> 00:22:34,788
Speaker 4: Now? Leonard Williams from Seattle is a guy get eleven

557
00:22:34,868 --> 00:22:39,148
Speaker 4: sacks an absolute beast. I mean really so when you

558
00:22:39,188 --> 00:22:41,348
Speaker 4: talk about the Forrest Bucker and guys, they just tear

559
00:22:41,428 --> 00:22:44,188
Speaker 4: up the be gap. Here's another one. All he does

560
00:22:44,428 --> 00:22:46,348
Speaker 4: is rip the upside shoulder of the guard and take

561
00:22:46,388 --> 00:22:49,308
Speaker 4: him back to the quarterback. And you know, it gets

562
00:22:49,348 --> 00:22:52,028
Speaker 4: in your vision, it gets in your brain. He slips

563
00:22:52,068 --> 00:22:54,388
Speaker 4: off to inside and outside. He's got a great spin

564
00:22:54,508 --> 00:22:57,428
Speaker 4: move for a big dude. So all these guys are

565
00:22:57,428 --> 00:23:00,068
Speaker 4: wrecking machines and they have just taken over for Aaron

566
00:23:00,108 --> 00:23:03,388
Speaker 4: Donald as the interior pass rush threats in the National

567
00:23:03,428 --> 00:23:04,028
Speaker 4: Football League.

568
00:23:04,028 --> 00:23:07,308
Speaker 2: I was with Leonard Williams at USC and I remember

569
00:23:07,308 --> 00:23:09,468
Speaker 2: when he got there as a freshman. When he was

570
00:23:09,548 --> 00:23:11,068
Speaker 2: and he did not go to scout team. He went

571
00:23:11,068 --> 00:23:13,868
Speaker 2: straight to the ones and we were doing one on

572
00:23:13,868 --> 00:23:17,348
Speaker 2: ones during season or during otia was called springball in college.

573
00:23:17,628 --> 00:23:19,428
Speaker 2: We had to tell him to slow down because he

574
00:23:19,468 --> 00:23:21,148
Speaker 2: was being our offensive lineman too, and he was getting

575
00:23:21,148 --> 00:23:22,948
Speaker 2: too close to the quarterback. It was one of those

576
00:23:22,948 --> 00:23:25,948
Speaker 2: situations where he's a new face freshman. He doesn't understand

577
00:23:25,988 --> 00:23:27,828
Speaker 2: how it showed down. He has one speed, and I

578
00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,468
Speaker 2: was terrified because he was that good as a freshman

579
00:23:30,508 --> 00:23:31,708
Speaker 2: in college and anyone out there and had an All

580
00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:34,388
Speaker 2: American season, he is I hate continuing to get better.

581
00:23:34,268 --> 00:23:36,068
Speaker 4: To slow down. No, if you don't want me to

582
00:23:36,068 --> 00:23:37,348
Speaker 4: go full speed, take me out of the.

583
00:23:37,308 --> 00:23:39,548
Speaker 2: Did you hate? Did you hate the yellow jerseys for

584
00:23:39,548 --> 00:23:40,028
Speaker 2: the quarterback?

585
00:23:40,828 --> 00:23:42,228
Speaker 4: Hit you, but I'm not trying to hit you. But

586
00:23:42,268 --> 00:23:43,188
Speaker 4: I got to get my work done.

587
00:23:43,428 --> 00:23:43,748
Speaker 2: I love it.

588
00:23:43,788 --> 00:23:45,468
Speaker 4: I can't be dancing on the line of I got

589
00:23:45,508 --> 00:23:46,188
Speaker 4: to get my stuff done.

590
00:23:46,228 --> 00:23:47,028
Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong.

591
00:23:47,068 --> 00:23:49,828
Speaker 3: All those guys Chris John's came were Dexter Lawrence, Jalen Carter.

592
00:23:49,868 --> 00:23:52,868
Speaker 3: They're all on their first organization's first team. Still, why

593
00:23:52,868 --> 00:23:55,748
Speaker 3: do you think it hasn't Leonard Williams experience like he's

594
00:23:55,748 --> 00:23:57,188
Speaker 3: on his third team, the Seahawks.

595
00:23:58,388 --> 00:24:00,828
Speaker 4: That's a great question. I think that might be for

596
00:24:00,868 --> 00:24:03,908
Speaker 4: a team to answer. But his talent carries over. Okay,

597
00:24:04,028 --> 00:24:06,908
Speaker 4: you know, like you said, sometimes it's the right guy,

598
00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:09,628
Speaker 4: wrong spot. I think he's found the right spot in Seattle.

599
00:24:14,028 --> 00:24:16,548
Speaker 2: Let's call us go that the.

600
00:24:16,668 --> 00:24:20,028
Speaker 7: Mind control the body, not the body control the mind.

601
00:24:20,668 --> 00:24:24,068
Speaker 2: I got you there, Bo. You know I'll let you

602
00:24:24,148 --> 00:24:24,508
Speaker 2: do that.

603
00:24:24,908 --> 00:24:28,308
Speaker 4: We said we're going into fourth quarter and we wanted.

604
00:24:32,428 --> 00:24:32,668
Speaker 2: Give it.

605
00:24:32,788 --> 00:24:36,148
Speaker 4: You're all wait her Gate football. There's only one way

606
00:24:36,188 --> 00:24:36,588
Speaker 4: we know.

607
00:24:36,588 --> 00:24:38,788
Speaker 8: How to play the game. I think everybody's kind of

608
00:24:38,788 --> 00:24:41,668
Speaker 8: gotten a kick out of Jimmy and Jerry and thinking

609
00:24:41,708 --> 00:24:44,428
Speaker 8: that we were at each other's worl. When you win

610
00:24:44,508 --> 00:24:46,828
Speaker 8: these kind of things, the only thing you're gonna do

611
00:24:46,868 --> 00:24:48,828
Speaker 8: at each other's throat to tugget.

612
00:24:50,388 --> 00:24:52,108
Speaker 2: And only thing else I got to say is.

613
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Speaker 3: One of the most likable characters on television that you

614
00:25:01,548 --> 00:25:04,588
Speaker 3: have watched for the last thirty plus years, just on

615
00:25:04,708 --> 00:25:07,308
Speaker 3: Fox alone. But that doesn't count his coaching career. After

616
00:25:07,348 --> 00:25:09,828
Speaker 3: thirty one years at Fox Sports, Hall of Fame coach

617
00:25:09,868 --> 00:25:13,468
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson is walking away from broadcasting. He announced his

618
00:25:13,548 --> 00:25:16,908
Speaker 3: retirement from the show and the network yesterday. So we

619
00:25:16,948 --> 00:25:18,668
Speaker 3: all want to go on the table and just speak

620
00:25:18,708 --> 00:25:20,548
Speaker 3: to what came to our mind when we heard that

621
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Speaker 3: after three decades of talking about full football on our TVs,

622
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Speaker 3: Jimmy calling it a career. Kyle, I know you responded

623
00:25:27,428 --> 00:25:27,868
Speaker 3: well to it.

624
00:25:28,308 --> 00:25:29,428
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean disbelief.

625
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:34,628
Speaker 1: Since I've been in seventh grade, Terry Howie and Jimmy,

626
00:25:34,868 --> 00:25:37,868
Speaker 1: and then you know straighthand Joins. But those guys, they're

627
00:25:37,868 --> 00:25:40,828
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices. They never leave, They're always there.

628
00:25:40,868 --> 00:25:42,948
Speaker 4: They're just there's someone you can rely on.

629
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Speaker 1: They're one of the pillars, not only in a studio show,

630
00:25:45,908 --> 00:25:48,548
Speaker 1: just of the whole NFL experience as a fan is

631
00:25:48,668 --> 00:25:51,268
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson and that Fox desk. So it's crazy to

632
00:25:51,308 --> 00:25:55,388
Speaker 1: me and I I have so many memories of Jimmy Johnson. Obviously,

633
00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:58,548
Speaker 1: as a coach, but as a broadcaster, and it's I

634
00:25:58,628 --> 00:26:00,988
Speaker 1: love watching him so much. And it's funny for me

635
00:26:01,108 --> 00:26:04,388
Speaker 1: because when I was a child, I hated Jimmy Johnson.

636
00:26:04,708 --> 00:26:05,308
Speaker 4: Because I listen.

637
00:26:05,388 --> 00:26:07,468
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when he was coaching something

638
00:26:07,508 --> 00:26:10,668
Speaker 1: called college football, and I grew up a Notre Dame fan.

639
00:26:10,748 --> 00:26:13,788
Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how evil Jimmy Johnson was as

640
00:26:13,828 --> 00:26:16,428
Speaker 1: the head coach of Miami and everything they represent and

641
00:26:16,468 --> 00:26:19,588
Speaker 1: the you and the swagger and the talking and all

642
00:26:19,628 --> 00:26:22,468
Speaker 1: the crazy future pros. To a kid who's a Notre

643
00:26:22,548 --> 00:26:24,708
Speaker 1: Dame fan, that's evil personified.

644
00:26:24,948 --> 00:26:26,588
Speaker 4: I hated that. What's up with the hair and what's

645
00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:28,868
Speaker 4: up with the yelling? I hate that guy. And sure enough,

646
00:26:29,508 --> 00:26:30,308
Speaker 4: when he came on the.

647
00:26:30,228 --> 00:26:33,188
Speaker 1: Show a couple of years ago, I just straight up

648
00:26:33,228 --> 00:26:35,188
Speaker 1: asked him, and of course he was generous and he

649
00:26:35,268 --> 00:26:36,628
Speaker 1: credited his players.

650
00:26:38,348 --> 00:26:38,588
Speaker 4: Jame.

651
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Speaker 1: I grew up in the subjurbs of Chicago, the son

652
00:26:41,548 --> 00:26:44,908
Speaker 1: of a Notre Dame alumnus, and I lived and breathed

653
00:26:45,068 --> 00:26:47,988
Speaker 1: Notre Dame football, including in the late eighties mid eighties,

654
00:26:48,228 --> 00:26:50,188
Speaker 1: and I looked at these guys down from Florida with

655
00:26:50,228 --> 00:26:52,588
Speaker 1: the you on their helmets. It's just this evil empire

656
00:26:53,028 --> 00:26:56,148
Speaker 1: and you were the emperor. You were a great, great,

657
00:26:56,228 --> 00:26:58,868
Speaker 1: great figure in college football. What do you when you

658
00:26:58,908 --> 00:27:00,508
Speaker 1: look back on your days as the head coach of

659
00:27:00,548 --> 00:27:03,108
Speaker 1: Miami and all the incredible players and coaches you worked with.

660
00:27:03,348 --> 00:27:04,988
Speaker 4: What comes to mind? And we read about it in

661
00:27:04,988 --> 00:27:05,308
Speaker 4: the book.

662
00:27:07,188 --> 00:27:10,308
Speaker 7: We had so many great players, you know. When I

663
00:27:10,348 --> 00:27:13,068
Speaker 7: went to Dallas, you know, I thought I was a

664
00:27:13,148 --> 00:27:15,588
Speaker 7: great football coach, and then when I saw the talent

665
00:27:15,628 --> 00:27:19,148
Speaker 7: in Dallas, how far down it was. I realized I

666
00:27:19,228 --> 00:27:21,308
Speaker 7: won all those games at Miami because we had better

667
00:27:21,348 --> 00:27:22,628
Speaker 7: players than everybody else.

668
00:27:23,228 --> 00:27:24,468
Speaker 2: And he did and he always did.

669
00:27:24,508 --> 00:27:27,228
Speaker 1: And I'll just be brief here, but I'll just say

670
00:27:27,268 --> 00:27:28,948
Speaker 1: is thank you so much to Jimmy Johnson for so

671
00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:31,108
Speaker 1: many years, not only his coaching but as broadcasting.

672
00:27:31,428 --> 00:27:31,988
Speaker 4: He's this guy.

673
00:27:32,028 --> 00:27:33,868
Speaker 1: You would see him show up on Sundays and give

674
00:27:33,908 --> 00:27:35,868
Speaker 1: his takes and you loved him so much because of

675
00:27:35,868 --> 00:27:37,788
Speaker 1: what he accomplished the NFL. And then he would go

676
00:27:37,828 --> 00:27:40,588
Speaker 1: off and like go sail fishing or something, and this

677
00:27:40,668 --> 00:27:44,148
Speaker 1: crazy thing down he's like this dream Jimmy Buffett meets

678
00:27:44,228 --> 00:27:47,628
Speaker 1: John Madden type life that I respect so much, and

679
00:27:47,828 --> 00:27:49,788
Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him and I hope he enjoys

680
00:27:50,348 --> 00:27:50,868
Speaker 1: his leisure.

681
00:27:50,908 --> 00:27:52,708
Speaker 4: And I just said thank you for so many years coach.

682
00:27:53,068 --> 00:27:55,268
Speaker 4: You know, getting around with all the you know, ex

683
00:27:55,268 --> 00:27:57,948
Speaker 4: players and talking about coaching. We're talking about Vermeil, how

684
00:27:57,988 --> 00:27:59,748
Speaker 4: hard he worked us, and you talk to you guys

685
00:27:59,748 --> 00:28:02,068
Speaker 4: from Miami or Dallas. You know what was Jimmy like?

686
00:28:02,308 --> 00:28:05,388
Speaker 4: And I remember the quote was and Jimmy makes water

687
00:28:05,468 --> 00:28:06,028
Speaker 4: taste great.

688
00:28:07,308 --> 00:28:07,628
Speaker 2: Right.

689
00:28:07,668 --> 00:28:09,428
Speaker 4: That means you're working hard. It's hot out there. He

690
00:28:09,468 --> 00:28:11,228
Speaker 4: does not care about you, but he cares about your

691
00:28:11,268 --> 00:28:13,828
Speaker 4: great coach. So I thought, this is crazy. So when

692
00:28:13,868 --> 00:28:16,148
Speaker 4: you think about coaches that have done it at both

693
00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:19,068
Speaker 4: levels college and bro and got to the top of both, yep,

694
00:28:19,148 --> 00:28:22,668
Speaker 4: there's not that many. So when you start telling the

695
00:28:22,708 --> 00:28:25,828
Speaker 4: history of football, not just pro football, but football period

696
00:28:25,868 --> 00:28:29,068
Speaker 4: and you talk about its best coaches, Jimmy Johnson is

697
00:28:29,068 --> 00:28:31,268
Speaker 4: going to be on your short list, probably top three,

698
00:28:32,108 --> 00:28:35,988
Speaker 4: special coach, special career, funny on TV, like you said,

699
00:28:36,508 --> 00:28:37,548
Speaker 4: something to aspire to.

700
00:28:37,988 --> 00:28:39,788
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a huge part of my childhood too.

701
00:28:39,788 --> 00:28:41,748
Speaker 2: I remember waking up on Sundays and watching him on Fox,

702
00:28:41,788 --> 00:28:43,548
Speaker 2: and I thought the most interesting thing was he's won

703
00:28:43,548 --> 00:28:45,748
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls. He's a national Champion, Pro Football Hall

704
00:28:45,788 --> 00:28:47,948
Speaker 2: of Fame, but he said the most fun he had

705
00:28:48,268 --> 00:28:50,628
Speaker 2: was being a broadcaster at Fox, and that shined through

706
00:28:50,668 --> 00:28:52,788
Speaker 2: and it's something that inspired me. Well, you know, going

707
00:28:52,828 --> 00:28:54,828
Speaker 2: into this broadcasting side of things right now, you can

708
00:28:54,908 --> 00:28:56,948
Speaker 2: tell when you had a coach or a former player,

709
00:28:57,028 --> 00:28:58,508
Speaker 2: just anyone who loves the game of football, when they

710
00:28:58,508 --> 00:29:00,588
Speaker 2: would talk to the audience, you could fill that shine

711
00:29:00,588 --> 00:29:02,748
Speaker 2: through the TV, right and it made you invest in

712
00:29:02,748 --> 00:29:03,908
Speaker 2: to wanting to hear what he had to say. So

713
00:29:03,948 --> 00:29:05,948
Speaker 2: it's a better sweet moment for the sports world. You know,

714
00:29:05,948 --> 00:29:08,228
Speaker 2: I wish him a happy retirement. I selfishly wish he

715
00:29:08,308 --> 00:29:10,068
Speaker 2: was going to be around football, but his legacy will

716
00:29:10,108 --> 00:29:12,988
Speaker 2: live forever and his impact on the game will last

717
00:29:12,988 --> 00:29:13,708
Speaker 2: for a very long time.

718
00:29:13,908 --> 00:29:14,188
Speaker 4: I do it.

719
00:29:14,308 --> 00:29:16,908
Speaker 3: I know I can't speak to him as a rough

720
00:29:16,908 --> 00:29:19,268
Speaker 3: and tumble, hard nosed football coach. That's not who my

721
00:29:19,388 --> 00:29:19,868
Speaker 3: memory lies.

722
00:29:20,028 --> 00:29:20,748
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson.

723
00:29:20,788 --> 00:29:23,308
Speaker 3: That's the Jimmy Johnson I know is watching him on television.

724
00:29:23,868 --> 00:29:28,468
Speaker 3: That man just brought so much. He just listens to

725
00:29:28,508 --> 00:29:30,828
Speaker 3: people with the smile. That was only a couple months

726
00:29:30,868 --> 00:29:32,628
Speaker 3: on this show when he came on that interview that

727
00:29:32,668 --> 00:29:34,908
Speaker 3: Kyle just reference and first of all. I just couldn't

728
00:29:34,908 --> 00:29:37,588
Speaker 3: believe that, Like GMFB is so cool. We just get

729
00:29:37,668 --> 00:29:39,588
Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson, like on a Tuesday to come on and

730
00:29:39,668 --> 00:29:41,708
Speaker 3: talk to us, and he seems so invested in it.

731
00:29:41,948 --> 00:29:43,828
Speaker 3: I think he is one of the most relatable men

732
00:29:43,908 --> 00:29:47,508
Speaker 3: on television. He works with Carissa Thompson and he's going

733
00:29:47,548 --> 00:29:49,988
Speaker 3: to be eighty two this summer. Like that, for him

734
00:29:50,028 --> 00:29:53,228
Speaker 3: to still bring youthful, joyful energy to the game of

735
00:29:53,228 --> 00:29:55,828
Speaker 3: football and have it relate to everybody is a great

736
00:29:55,828 --> 00:29:58,108
Speaker 3: gift and a great skill. Jimmy Johnson, you are awesome.

737
00:29:58,348 --> 00:30:00,148
Speaker 3: We love having you on the show and will never

738
00:30:00,228 --> 00:30:01,468
Speaker 3: turn you down if you want to come on and

739
00:30:01,468 --> 00:30:02,028
Speaker 3: talk football.

740
00:30:02,108 --> 00:30:02,868
Speaker 2: Shouldn't just retire.

741
00:30:02,908 --> 00:30:06,148
Speaker 3: You can retire from Fox, but maybe not from Imagine.

742
00:30:06,268 --> 00:30:10,068
Speaker 1: Just imagine coaching Michael Irvin and his prime and it's

743
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:12,348
Speaker 1: admits and all those players, I mean all the not

744
00:30:12,428 --> 00:30:14,228
Speaker 1: just the talent, but they have stories.

745
00:30:15,228 --> 00:30:18,868
Speaker 4: God for the third Super Bowl, of course, of course

746
00:30:18,908 --> 00:30:20,108
Speaker 4: he's won three Super Bowl.

747
00:30:20,108 --> 00:30:22,188
Speaker 1: I give Tony Dungee credit for your Super Bowl.

748
00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:25,428
Speaker 4: That's right, yes they do. It's three three.

749
00:30:25,708 --> 00:30:28,108
Speaker 2: This is my seventh day on Good Morning Football, And

750
00:30:28,148 --> 00:30:30,228
Speaker 2: the first thing that I learned was that this is

751
00:30:30,268 --> 00:30:33,148
Speaker 2: the best football show on television right everyone in the scenes,

752
00:30:33,388 --> 00:30:35,468
Speaker 2: to the co host, to the producers, everyone involved. The

753
00:30:35,468 --> 00:30:37,588
Speaker 2: second thing that I learned is be very careful about

754
00:30:37,628 --> 00:30:39,548
Speaker 2: the stories that you tell during commercial breaks to the

755
00:30:39,548 --> 00:30:42,188
Speaker 2: producers about your bad days in football, because they will

756
00:30:42,268 --> 00:30:44,268
Speaker 2: not only go find the tape, but make you relive

757
00:30:44,308 --> 00:30:46,628
Speaker 2: it on national television. And that's exactly what we are doing.

758
00:30:46,828 --> 00:30:48,268
Speaker 2: On this segment. We're going to take a look at

759
00:30:48,308 --> 00:30:51,348
Speaker 2: my first series as a starting quarterback in the NFL.

760
00:30:51,428 --> 00:30:53,508
Speaker 2: I'll lay the foundation a little bit. The scene is

761
00:30:53,508 --> 00:30:55,628
Speaker 2: is that I'm a third round pick in twenty sixteen

762
00:30:55,668 --> 00:30:57,468
Speaker 2: to the Cleveland Browns. I have Robert Griffin the third

763
00:30:57,468 --> 00:30:59,268
Speaker 2: ahead of me. I have Josh mccount ahead of me.

764
00:30:59,428 --> 00:31:01,628
Speaker 2: I am told that I'm going to quote unquote NFL

765
00:31:01,708 --> 00:31:03,908
Speaker 2: red shirt. Well, the first game, RGI three gets hurt,

766
00:31:03,948 --> 00:31:06,508
Speaker 2: he's out weeks. The second game, Josh McCown gets hurt,

767
00:31:06,588 --> 00:31:08,668
Speaker 2: he's out eight to ten weeks. So long, and behold

768
00:31:08,748 --> 00:31:11,908
Speaker 2: week three, I am starting against the Miami Dolphins at

769
00:31:12,028 --> 00:31:13,828
Speaker 2: hard Rock Stadium. We're going to take a look at

770
00:31:13,828 --> 00:31:15,868
Speaker 2: that series and why it went so wrong, and just

771
00:31:15,868 --> 00:31:17,388
Speaker 2: give a little heads up to some of the rookies

772
00:31:17,428 --> 00:31:18,988
Speaker 2: in the combine and what it's going to look like

773
00:31:18,988 --> 00:31:20,628
Speaker 2: when you get the NFL. Hopefully it's not this bad.

774
00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:21,988
Speaker 2: So the first play we're going to look at, first

775
00:31:21,988 --> 00:31:25,508
Speaker 2: play of your career is I have been working all week, Kyle, preparing,

776
00:31:25,748 --> 00:31:28,188
Speaker 2: staying late, first guy in, last guy out. Let's go,

777
00:31:28,348 --> 00:31:30,188
Speaker 2: doing everything I can to be ready for this game.

778
00:31:30,308 --> 00:31:32,588
Speaker 2: I feel great and warm ups. I tell Josh McCown

779
00:31:32,628 --> 00:31:34,388
Speaker 2: I'm not nervous. I'm ready for the moment. Yeah, the

780
00:31:34,388 --> 00:31:35,628
Speaker 2: first play we're going to get out there, you're going

781
00:31:35,668 --> 00:31:37,348
Speaker 2: to see little bit of a funky look, a unique

782
00:31:37,628 --> 00:31:39,908
Speaker 2: Jackson play. Tackles are going to be out wide. We're

783
00:31:39,948 --> 00:31:42,268
Speaker 2: going to have guard center on the inside. If we

784
00:31:42,388 --> 00:31:44,588
Speaker 2: like to look, we say hurry, Harry said, hut. If

785
00:31:44,588 --> 00:31:46,708
Speaker 2: we don't like the look, we shift everybody in. Well,

786
00:31:46,788 --> 00:31:49,308
Speaker 2: I try to say hurry, Harry said, hut. It doesn't work.

787
00:31:49,388 --> 00:31:51,348
Speaker 2: I panic, so I try to shift everybody in. No

788
00:31:51,388 --> 00:31:53,428
Speaker 2: one can hear me. It's too loud in there. I'm

789
00:31:53,428 --> 00:31:55,788
Speaker 2: not loud enough. I'm nervous. And then sure enough you'll

790
00:31:55,788 --> 00:31:57,628
Speaker 2: see what happens after that sick look.

791
00:31:59,468 --> 00:32:04,588
Speaker 9: So here is chess learn you will whirlwind of the

792
00:32:04,628 --> 00:32:06,788
Speaker 9: week's sixpin for that young man. As the twenty three

793
00:32:06,868 --> 00:32:09,668
Speaker 9: year old takes his first career NFL snap first and

794
00:32:09,868 --> 00:32:15,988
Speaker 9: ten from just outside the Dolphins thirty.

795
00:32:16,308 --> 00:32:18,908
Speaker 2: Lay clock down to zeros.

796
00:32:21,028 --> 00:32:21,828
Speaker 4: And a flag is.

797
00:32:21,868 --> 00:32:26,428
Speaker 2: Thrown play a game offense penally, still first.

798
00:32:26,148 --> 00:32:30,308
Speaker 10: Down and already seeing spirerou the rookie mistakes Cody Cassel

799
00:32:30,388 --> 00:32:33,908
Speaker 10: in his first career start gets a delay of game penalty.

800
00:32:34,668 --> 00:32:35,388
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

801
00:32:35,868 --> 00:32:38,588
Speaker 2: This is only the first play, first play, that was

802
00:32:38,628 --> 00:32:41,508
Speaker 2: the first year to start. Well, you could see me

803
00:32:41,588 --> 00:32:43,948
Speaker 2: go hurry, Harry said. Hut. I tried to get the

804
00:32:43,948 --> 00:32:45,988
Speaker 2: ball snapped. No one can hear me, So I go

805
00:32:46,028 --> 00:32:47,708
Speaker 2: to panic mode. There's about eight seconds left on the

806
00:32:47,708 --> 00:32:49,948
Speaker 2: play clock. I try to shift everybody. I knew at

807
00:32:49,948 --> 00:32:51,788
Speaker 2: this point it was going to be delay game, but

808
00:32:51,828 --> 00:32:53,628
Speaker 2: I'm a rookie, so I can't call time out. That

809
00:32:53,748 --> 00:32:56,508
Speaker 2: is the head coach really have that luxury yet because

810
00:32:58,948 --> 00:33:01,708
Speaker 2: freaking out her Harry Hery hurt.

811
00:33:01,388 --> 00:33:03,948
Speaker 3: A decision that was like rookie does he doesn't need

812
00:33:03,948 --> 00:33:05,588
Speaker 3: an offense of line play.

813
00:33:05,588 --> 00:33:06,868
Speaker 2: It's fine, it's a little bit of.

814
00:33:07,468 --> 00:33:08,148
Speaker 4: We all have the same thing.

815
00:33:08,308 --> 00:33:11,508
Speaker 1: Okay, it's your first play play, Maybe you just get

816
00:33:11,508 --> 00:33:14,148
Speaker 1: the train on the tracks, run everybody.

817
00:33:13,748 --> 00:33:15,068
Speaker 4: Up, and you run it off tackles.

818
00:33:16,108 --> 00:33:18,268
Speaker 2: We want to invent the wheel with the Kessler Express

819
00:33:18,308 --> 00:33:18,708
Speaker 2: over here.

820
00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:19,628
Speaker 4: Well we do weave.

821
00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:21,188
Speaker 2: That was the perfect that was the perfect tea up

822
00:33:21,188 --> 00:33:22,948
Speaker 2: for the second place. That's what we ended up doing.

823
00:33:23,348 --> 00:33:25,988
Speaker 2: So now you are first and fifteen. I am flustered.

824
00:33:26,028 --> 00:33:27,908
Speaker 2: The broadcasters are very generous, being nice.

825
00:33:28,108 --> 00:33:31,628
Speaker 3: Zero Das and Solomon wilcott So Solomon Wilcotts on CBS

826
00:33:31,748 --> 00:33:32,668
Speaker 3: is the one that said.

827
00:33:32,588 --> 00:33:35,028
Speaker 2: Oh no, we're already getting under the rookie mistakes. Oh

828
00:33:35,268 --> 00:33:37,508
Speaker 2: it gets worsehing great. Okay, So the second play here,

829
00:33:37,508 --> 00:33:39,228
Speaker 2: we do go to a run play and we just

830
00:33:39,228 --> 00:33:41,308
Speaker 2: give the bald Isaiah Crow well, very easy, get the

831
00:33:41,308 --> 00:33:43,668
Speaker 2: whole power formation, hand it off to pick up seven

832
00:33:43,748 --> 00:33:44,228
Speaker 2: or eight yards.

833
00:33:44,268 --> 00:33:44,908
Speaker 4: That's a big play.

834
00:33:44,988 --> 00:33:46,748
Speaker 2: And now we go from first and fifteen to second

835
00:33:46,788 --> 00:33:47,028
Speaker 2: and eight.

836
00:33:47,148 --> 00:33:47,828
Speaker 4: Okay, there do you go.

837
00:33:47,988 --> 00:33:50,028
Speaker 2: Everything's going the right way. Now we go to the

838
00:33:50,068 --> 00:33:50,428
Speaker 2: third play.

839
00:33:50,548 --> 00:33:51,308
Speaker 4: Let the kid throw.

840
00:33:51,388 --> 00:33:53,428
Speaker 2: We're going to run the football again. Ay, so we

841
00:33:53,428 --> 00:33:55,388
Speaker 2: have a belue that we're going to the left. This

842
00:33:55,468 --> 00:33:57,388
Speaker 2: is a check with me type play. That means we

843
00:33:57,428 --> 00:33:59,348
Speaker 2: want to run to the three technique. That is when

844
00:33:59,348 --> 00:34:01,508
Speaker 2: the defensive tackle is on the shade of the right

845
00:34:01,548 --> 00:34:03,748
Speaker 2: guard right and we're running away from the shade, which

846
00:34:03,788 --> 00:34:05,708
Speaker 2: means the note tackle is head up or to the

847
00:34:05,788 --> 00:34:07,228
Speaker 2: left side of the center. So I walk up there,

848
00:34:07,308 --> 00:34:09,708
Speaker 2: did all my prep. You're gonna hear me say, opie, opie.

849
00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:11,788
Speaker 2: That means opposite, opposite, got it. So we're going from

850
00:34:11,828 --> 00:34:14,348
Speaker 2: left to right. I am feeling great about myself. I

851
00:34:14,388 --> 00:34:16,828
Speaker 2: worked all week. I did my prep. Opi, opie. We're

852
00:34:16,868 --> 00:34:18,428
Speaker 2: good to go. Great call. I get a look from

853
00:34:18,468 --> 00:34:20,268
Speaker 2: the center saying hey, wait to go, and then you

854
00:34:20,268 --> 00:34:20,988
Speaker 2: see what happens.

855
00:34:22,988 --> 00:34:24,628
Speaker 9: Second and eighth No.

856
00:34:25,148 --> 00:34:29,468
Speaker 2: From the Dolphins, thirty two, very hurried.

857
00:34:31,228 --> 00:34:35,988
Speaker 9: Step is fumbled by Kessler and a shaky start continues.

858
00:34:36,068 --> 00:34:38,228
Speaker 9: Kessler able to fall on the football, and you just

859
00:34:38,268 --> 00:34:40,308
Speaker 9: can't even imagine what's going through this kid's mind.

860
00:34:40,308 --> 00:34:40,508
Speaker 4: Here.

861
00:34:41,268 --> 00:34:42,548
Speaker 2: That's a very ragged start.

862
00:34:42,668 --> 00:34:46,748
Speaker 10: Butterflies are swirling, everything's happening and going one hundred miles

863
00:34:46,748 --> 00:34:49,428
Speaker 10: an hour. You can see the snap right there from

864
00:34:49,508 --> 00:34:50,428
Speaker 10: number seventy seven.

865
00:34:51,228 --> 00:34:53,868
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm thinking DeMarco is gonna kill you.

866
00:34:54,188 --> 00:34:56,028
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, that's my quarterback. What

867
00:34:56,068 --> 00:34:57,668
Speaker 2: do you think it has a defensive alignment on the

868
00:34:57,668 --> 00:34:59,348
Speaker 2: sideline right now, and mind you.

869
00:34:59,228 --> 00:35:00,988
Speaker 4: From your first play, I'm like, this kid doesn't know

870
00:35:00,988 --> 00:35:01,468
Speaker 4: what he's doing.

871
00:35:01,588 --> 00:35:03,948
Speaker 2: He just does the ball first. They got it or

872
00:35:04,108 --> 00:35:05,868
Speaker 2: are you was out their first mind gets ball first,

873
00:35:05,868 --> 00:35:06,908
Speaker 2: they get an interception and give.

874
00:35:06,828 --> 00:35:09,188
Speaker 4: Us great, Oh my god, you're ruined the turnip.

875
00:35:09,108 --> 00:35:10,228
Speaker 2: And them all exactly what happened.

876
00:35:10,228 --> 00:35:12,388
Speaker 1: So after the first play, we're all screaming at the

877
00:35:12,388 --> 00:35:13,308
Speaker 1: coach why would you run?

878
00:35:13,428 --> 00:35:13,588
Speaker 9: Now?

879
00:35:13,628 --> 00:35:17,268
Speaker 3: It's like, this is what happened, butterfly swirling.

880
00:35:17,308 --> 00:35:18,908
Speaker 2: You want to know? The worst part hole is getting

881
00:35:18,948 --> 00:35:21,628
Speaker 2: in the huddle and looking at Joe Thomas staring at

882
00:35:21,668 --> 00:35:23,748
Speaker 2: you as a rookie saying, is this what I'm in

883
00:35:23,788 --> 00:35:26,428
Speaker 2: for today? And I'm trying to be positive and I

884
00:35:26,468 --> 00:35:30,028
Speaker 2: am absolutely flustered. So today you don't think it can

885
00:35:30,068 --> 00:35:30,508
Speaker 2: get worse?

886
00:35:30,748 --> 00:35:32,308
Speaker 3: You just said the guys are off right to ten

887
00:35:32,388 --> 00:35:33,668
Speaker 3: weeks to Thomas.

888
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,148
Speaker 4: Is thinking this is the next eight weeks in my life.

889
00:35:35,228 --> 00:35:37,708
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So it can't get worse, right,

890
00:35:38,028 --> 00:35:40,388
Speaker 2: it gets worse, that's not rock bottom. So now we're

891
00:35:40,388 --> 00:35:42,428
Speaker 2: at third and eight. This is so great. So we

892
00:35:42,468 --> 00:35:44,868
Speaker 2: called screen pass to Gary barnas a little tight end scream,

893
00:35:44,908 --> 00:35:47,348
Speaker 2: we're feeling good. Pump to the right, go back to

894
00:35:47,388 --> 00:35:50,068
Speaker 2: the left. When you're a young quarterback, even in middle school,

895
00:35:50,108 --> 00:35:52,028
Speaker 2: they teach you you either get it to the tight

896
00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:53,548
Speaker 2: end on the screen. If it's not there, dirt it

897
00:35:53,548 --> 00:35:55,588
Speaker 2: and throw it away. Right. That's simple. Sof you talked

898
00:35:55,668 --> 00:35:57,428
Speaker 2: yesterday you want to be Superman? When to be Clark?

899
00:35:57,828 --> 00:36:00,108
Speaker 2: Got to know the difference. In my defense, You'll see

900
00:36:00,148 --> 00:36:01,988
Speaker 2: Gary Barnes get held a little bit. It's a miss call.

901
00:36:02,028 --> 00:36:03,548
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna blame in the restaurant. What did you do?

902
00:36:03,628 --> 00:36:06,388
Speaker 2: But I dropped back. I try to get it to

903
00:36:06,388 --> 00:36:08,908
Speaker 2: Gary Barnge. I'm gonna pump right. Look at Gary Barnage

904
00:36:08,948 --> 00:36:11,748
Speaker 2: and he's gonna get held up a little bit and

905
00:36:11,788 --> 00:36:14,108
Speaker 2: instead of dirting it, you're gonna see what happens. And

906
00:36:14,188 --> 00:36:15,268
Speaker 2: it's absolute disaster.

907
00:36:20,188 --> 00:36:24,028
Speaker 9: Third and nine, Kessler under pressure, sex football comes loose,

908
00:36:24,508 --> 00:36:25,548
Speaker 9: Miami has it.

909
00:36:28,268 --> 00:36:33,308
Speaker 11: Cameron Wake strikes early in this ball game. You can

910
00:36:33,388 --> 00:36:37,028
Speaker 11: see Cody Kessler is not used to the tempo at

911
00:36:37,068 --> 00:36:39,188
Speaker 11: the timing in which the ball has to come out,

912
00:36:39,508 --> 00:36:43,028
Speaker 11: and Hugh Jackson can't be happy with the decision making

913
00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:46,148
Speaker 11: a poor decision of his quarterback.

914
00:36:46,868 --> 00:36:51,388
Speaker 2: Does that hurt. Yeah, true story. He that was Cameron

915
00:36:51,428 --> 00:36:53,588
Speaker 2: Wake gave me a dead leg. You can see me

916
00:36:53,668 --> 00:36:56,508
Speaker 2: limping off that hurt for probably a week and a half.

917
00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:59,108
Speaker 2: The next week we play Washington at Washington. We had

918
00:36:59,108 --> 00:37:01,468
Speaker 2: to wrap it up with a pad because I could

919
00:37:01,468 --> 00:37:04,708
Speaker 2: barely walk. You shoulder does your leg his knee, Yah,

920
00:37:05,428 --> 00:37:07,068
Speaker 2: caught me in the side of the leg. Gave me

921
00:37:07,108 --> 00:37:08,948
Speaker 2: a dead leg. So I'll tell you what. It does

922
00:37:08,988 --> 00:37:10,548
Speaker 2: get a little better. There is a happy ending of this.

923
00:37:10,908 --> 00:37:12,628
Speaker 2: So you see me limping off a little bit right there.

924
00:37:12,628 --> 00:37:15,068
Speaker 2: I go to the sideline and I'll never forget Josh

925
00:37:15,148 --> 00:37:16,668
Speaker 2: McCown comes up and sits next to me in a

926
00:37:16,668 --> 00:37:19,548
Speaker 2: sling catch me on the leg and he said, I

927
00:37:19,548 --> 00:37:21,948
Speaker 2: think you're ready now, and I'm looking I'm head down

928
00:37:21,948 --> 00:37:23,948
Speaker 2: to look at him and I can just and per

929
00:37:24,148 --> 00:37:26,628
Speaker 2: just disbelief. I'm like, you think so? And he was like,

930
00:37:26,908 --> 00:37:28,388
Speaker 2: I know so. And I kind of had that moment.

931
00:37:28,508 --> 00:37:30,548
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, You're right? So came back

932
00:37:30,548 --> 00:37:32,308
Speaker 2: out ended up going for twenty one to thirty three

933
00:37:32,268 --> 00:37:35,108
Speaker 2: two hundred and forty four yards. Played well. I had

934
00:37:35,428 --> 00:37:37,668
Speaker 2: some big time throws in that game. Twelve prior, one

935
00:37:37,708 --> 00:37:39,868
Speaker 2: receiver yet some big time plays as well, and then

936
00:37:39,948 --> 00:37:42,788
Speaker 2: ended up getting we were down I think eleven came

937
00:37:42,828 --> 00:37:44,628
Speaker 2: back and tied it up at the end of the game,

938
00:37:44,828 --> 00:37:46,948
Speaker 2: hit Gary Barnes on a two point conversion, and then

939
00:37:46,948 --> 00:37:48,548
Speaker 2: we had a chance, we had a forty five yard

940
00:37:48,588 --> 00:37:50,828
Speaker 2: er at the end of regulation to win the game,

941
00:37:50,948 --> 00:37:53,428
Speaker 2: ended up missing it go to overtime. We ended up

942
00:37:53,948 --> 00:37:56,588
Speaker 2: but it was nice to kind of have that wake

943
00:37:56,668 --> 00:37:59,268
Speaker 2: up call. You're welcome to the NFL moment and you

944
00:37:59,348 --> 00:38:01,388
Speaker 2: may think, you know, it could have been worse. I

945
00:38:01,388 --> 00:38:02,868
Speaker 2: don't think it could have been. I would rather thrown

946
00:38:02,908 --> 00:38:05,028
Speaker 2: a pick six, been over with. Okay, got that out

947
00:38:05,068 --> 00:38:07,108
Speaker 2: of my system and go. It was three plays in

948
00:38:07,148 --> 00:38:09,388
Speaker 2: a row to where the worst thing that could have

949
00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:12,468
Speaker 2: happened happened, but I felt like I was better for it.

950
00:38:12,868 --> 00:38:14,748
Speaker 3: That wasn't just a wake up call, man. That was

951
00:38:14,788 --> 00:38:17,788
Speaker 3: like you didn't even hit the snooze button. You got

952
00:38:17,908 --> 00:38:21,468
Speaker 3: jarred awake so badly by hotel banging on your door

953
00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:23,988
Speaker 3: saying get up your thirty five minutes late to something

954
00:38:24,308 --> 00:38:26,828
Speaker 3: that was like that was like you said every single

955
00:38:26,828 --> 00:38:28,308
Speaker 3: bad thing that could have happened to you, and look

956
00:38:28,308 --> 00:38:28,868
Speaker 3: at what you did.

957
00:38:29,068 --> 00:38:30,828
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you. Thank you Jamie for uping in

958
00:38:30,868 --> 00:38:33,028
Speaker 2: a little bit. No, I mean none of us, we're

959
00:38:33,068 --> 00:38:33,508
Speaker 2: all laughing.

960
00:38:33,788 --> 00:38:35,588
Speaker 4: Non us have ever played a snap of Hey, you.

961
00:38:35,508 --> 00:38:37,508
Speaker 2: Know what, it's no, it's a cool story now though,

962
00:38:37,508 --> 00:38:39,388
Speaker 2: because I ended up. You know, that was some tough

963
00:38:39,428 --> 00:38:42,108
Speaker 2: times in Cleveland. But that rookie year, I did play

964
00:38:42,428 --> 00:38:44,828
Speaker 2: reasonably well, had some good games, and it was it

965
00:38:44,868 --> 00:38:46,788
Speaker 2: was nice to get that out of the way early, right,

966
00:38:46,828 --> 00:38:49,148
Speaker 2: And I'm not trying to scare all the rookies that

967
00:38:49,188 --> 00:38:50,628
Speaker 2: are going to the NFL, but you are going to

968
00:38:50,668 --> 00:38:53,228
Speaker 2: have a welcome to the NFL moment. Yeah, unfortunately might

969
00:38:53,308 --> 00:38:55,828
Speaker 2: happen right away, or fortunately I guess happened right away

970
00:38:55,828 --> 00:38:57,708
Speaker 2: and I got it over with. But that was cool.

971
00:38:57,708 --> 00:38:58,828
Speaker 2: That's a trip down memory lane.

972
00:38:58,948 --> 00:38:59,228
Speaker 4: The game.

973
00:38:59,468 --> 00:39:01,788
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost, Yeah, we had, we had a chance,

974
00:39:01,828 --> 00:39:03,588
Speaker 2: we had, we came back, we were down fourteen, came

975
00:39:03,628 --> 00:39:05,908
Speaker 2: back and had chance to tie it up at the

976
00:39:05,948 --> 00:39:09,108
Speaker 2: inn of regulation, missed a kick, went to overtime.

977
00:39:08,788 --> 00:39:10,268
Speaker 4: And so yeah, how the coin toss go?

978
00:39:10,388 --> 00:39:12,548
Speaker 2: And then yeah, so oh I looked it up.

979
00:39:12,788 --> 00:39:14,068
Speaker 4: Wow, I looked it up.

980
00:39:14,108 --> 00:39:15,748
Speaker 2: So the coin toss, we end up going out there

981
00:39:15,748 --> 00:39:16,828
Speaker 2: for the coin. That's a true story.

982
00:39:16,868 --> 00:39:16,948
Speaker 4: Too.

983
00:39:16,948 --> 00:39:19,268
Speaker 2: You can go look it up. This, we tie it up,

984
00:39:19,308 --> 00:39:21,548
Speaker 2: we come back, have a chance in regulation, miss a kick,

985
00:39:21,548 --> 00:39:23,548
Speaker 2: all right, cool, we're going overtime. Fine, we win the

986
00:39:23,588 --> 00:39:26,948
Speaker 2: coin toss two overtime and we elect to kick off

987
00:39:27,228 --> 00:39:29,628
Speaker 2: instead of taking let's kick, we like to kick off.

988
00:39:29,748 --> 00:39:32,308
Speaker 1: And because they got to get the ball, Kessler last thing.

989
00:39:32,308 --> 00:39:35,268
Speaker 2: Now there we go so unfortunately and we stopped them.

990
00:39:35,268 --> 00:39:36,588
Speaker 2: We got the ball back, We drove a little bit,

991
00:39:36,628 --> 00:39:37,748
Speaker 2: got stopped and then they went down.

992
00:39:37,788 --> 00:39:39,628
Speaker 1: And no one breaks my heart in the play with

993
00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:42,668
Speaker 1: this with the strip sack. So you pump right yep,

994
00:39:42,868 --> 00:39:45,908
Speaker 1: you look to barnage and then there's this half second where.

995
00:39:45,788 --> 00:39:47,548
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm going to make a play, but I'm.

996
00:39:47,388 --> 00:39:51,308
Speaker 4: Gonna be like just that little second, you're like, I got.

997
00:39:51,148 --> 00:39:54,708
Speaker 2: The because you know how bad the first couple of

998
00:39:54,748 --> 00:39:57,148
Speaker 2: plays went, yeah, and I thought, I've got to make

999
00:39:57,228 --> 00:39:58,708
Speaker 2: up for that. Now take off and run and show

1000
00:39:58,788 --> 00:39:59,588
Speaker 2: us athleticism.

1001
00:39:59,868 --> 00:40:01,828
Speaker 4: Bless you, codyat that was really cool segment.

1002
00:40:01,908 --> 00:40:04,228
Speaker 2: It's amazing that you did, very vulnerable initiate it. Yeah,

1003
00:40:04,508 --> 00:40:05,748
Speaker 2: is not the proudest there there.

1004
00:40:05,788 --> 00:40:08,508
Speaker 4: Look that's the man. But everybody, oh my god, that

1005
00:40:08,628 --> 00:40:11,908
Speaker 4: need like like you need yeah, you deserve no padding

1006
00:40:11,948 --> 00:40:13,908
Speaker 4: on that. Cody, stand right up there and we'll re

1007
00:40:14,028 --> 00:40:16,628
Speaker 4: enact it. Go ahead, get on the other.

1008
00:40:16,948 --> 00:40:20,268
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're here, Come on over here. You just

1009
00:40:20,468 --> 00:40:22,788
Speaker 2: looking at him? Go ahead, there you go.

1010
00:40:22,908 --> 00:40:27,908
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody the man forgetting really cool.

1011
00:40:27,908 --> 00:40:30,468
Speaker 3: I couldn't really job body to Marco?

1012
00:40:30,588 --> 00:40:31,308
Speaker 2: What did you do