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First of all, we 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: have some new comments from some of our leaders, including 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: President Biden, about whether or not we might be heading 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: towards a recession. Very telling comments. Indeed, we also have 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: a new union Apple store workers outside of Maryland. We 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: forming Apple's very first union, so that is exciting. We'll 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: give you those details there and whether or not the 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: fact that the economy is lighting off of a cliff 23 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: may impact that wave of labor organizing. We also have 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: some I mean, you just can't make it up the 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: stuff that continues to come out of Uvaldi now they 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: are I mean, it really is like a whole of 27 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: state cover up at this point, from the governor all 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: the way down to the local officials trying to keep 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: the public from ever seeing bodycam footage. But we do 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: have some sources within the investigation revealing some important details, 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: some new lies about exactly went down on that horrific day. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: We're also learning more about just how screwed up the 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: airline system is, price gouging scheduling flights that they know 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: they have no prayer. Ultimately, step we also have Pete 35 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: Bootage edge in a position to potentially do something about 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: it and basically not acting. So we'll take you through that. 37 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: You guys probably also saw President Biden taking a spill 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: off his bike. It appears to be fine, but raising 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: new questions about whether or not he should run again 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four if that's the Democrat's best chance. 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: And we also have some new troubling developments in Juliana 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: Sange's case, they're continuing, you know, the US and the 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: UK government continuing to push for him to be extradited here. 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: So we've got all of that for you. Also, Peter 45 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Zihon going to be back here again. Of course, there 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: are a lot of things that he can get into, 47 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: but we want to focus in particular on how we 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: may be entering a new phase where inflation is a 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: lot higher than it's than it used to be, as 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: globalization sort of as going away in certain respects. So 51 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: be interesting to talk to him, But we wanted to 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: start with these latest comments with regards to the recession 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: we heard from Janet Yellen, she's, of course the Treasury secretary, 54 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: about whether or not she thought there would be a 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: recession and also how long she thinks inflation is going 56 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: to hang around. Let's take a listen to that. I 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: don't think a recession is at all inevitable, cheer Powell. 58 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Clearly inflation is unacceptably high. It's President Biden's top priority 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: to bring it down, and Cheer Powell has said that 60 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: his goal is to bring inflation down while maintaining a 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: strong labor market. That's going to take skill and look, 62 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: but I believe it's possible. I don't think a recession 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: is inevitable. Prices are going to go up before they 64 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: go down, right again, most economs expect the inflation rate 65 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: to move up to around seven percent by the end 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: of the year. Does that sound about right to you, Well, 67 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: we've had high inflation in the first half of this year, 68 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: and that locks in high inflation really for the entire year. 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: But I do expect in the months ahead that the 70 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: pace of inflation is likely to come down. Also, remember, 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: there are so many uncertainties relating to global developments, so 72 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot to read between the lines here. I mean, 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: first of all, it's never a good situation when you're 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: using language like well, it's not inevitable, It's like, okay, 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: so what are we talking like a five percent chance 76 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: of avoiding a one percent chance of avoiding it. So 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: there's that, And then there's also the fact that you know, 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: in spite of the fact the Fed's taking some pretty 79 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: extraordinary action now increasing the level and the pace at 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: which they're lifting interest rates, there's still every expectation that 81 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: inflation is going to continue at least through this year, 82 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: and what does that mean. That means the FED will 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: continue to act and potentially continue to escalate those actions ultimately, 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: since that's basically the only thing that we're doing to 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: tame inflation. That means they are coming after you, know, 86 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: you your ability to buy a house. They've said outright 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: they want to get wages down, they want to cool 88 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: off the labor market. Won't get to in a little 89 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: bit when we talk about unionizing, I mean that is 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: part of what is enabled a lot of activism across 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: the country. So yes, of course we have to get 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: inflation under control because it is devastating working class people. 93 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: But when we only lean on the FED to do it, 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: we leave a lot of things off the table. And, 95 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: by the way, where we are at this point, a 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: lot of that, you know, to the extent that the 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: extra stimmy checks in the accounts and whatever helped to 98 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: spike inflation, a lot of that is burned off. There 99 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of other issues that we're facing that 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: are causing inflation. The FED has nothing to do with it. Yeah, 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean we see that all in the credit card data. 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: We see it in all the increase borrowing and the 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: cooling off of the housing market. Even in terms of demand, 104 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Americans are beginning to curb both restaurant and gas use, 105 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: meaning that quality of life is declining. And I'm not 106 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: saying it's a right, but anytime that you have to 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: have to diminish your quality of life in order to 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: make basic ends meet. Viral videos going around of people 109 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: saying I got to choose between food or gas this week. 110 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, that is a horrific position in order to 111 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: be in You also see that the talking point originated 112 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: with Biden himself. Let's put this up there on the screen. 113 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: He did it first sit down interview, finally with the 114 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Associated Press, only thirty minutes. But actually he was pressed 115 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: on inflation. Here's what he said. First of all, it's 116 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: not inevitable whenever it comes to the recession, so we 117 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 1: see that that bled into the secretary Treasury Secretary's comments. Secondly, 118 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: he says, quote, we're in a stronger position than any 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: nation in the world to overcome this inflation. Then he 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: pivoted to defending himself and saying that we have the 121 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: strongest job market since World War Two, and then we 122 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: have three point six percent on employment rate and talked 123 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: about wages. I don't know why they continue to go 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: to this post World War two talking point. You know, 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: it's this is a good parallel. Actually, consumer sentiment post 126 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: World War two was actually terrible. We had very high 127 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: inflation at that time, and Truman nearly got kicked out 128 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: of office for it because there was massive chaos in 129 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: the labor market. Because once again global events, you come 130 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: out of a crisis, it spikes huge problems and it 131 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: sparks real questions like what exactly are we going to 132 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: do as an economy and how are we going to 133 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: conduct commerce coming out of this? And Biden doesn't have 134 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: an actual answer for that. And this just gets to 135 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: what you're pointing to. There's only two ways really to 136 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: quote unquote solve inflation. You can induce a recession, which 137 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: is basically what the Fed has decided to do, or 138 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: you can try and deal with many of the supply 139 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: side factors. Well guess what is much much harder to 140 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: do both politically, but would actually solve the key problem 141 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: in the future, because this is a thing. Even with 142 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: inducing a recession, recession to the extent that it can 143 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: quote solve inflation, that just means that you're going to 144 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: reduce demand for everything across the board and hurt all business. Okay, 145 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that means the price is down. 146 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: But you know, nineteen seventy nine was a miserable year. 147 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty we actually went into one of the most 148 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: painful recessions since the Great Depression in nineteen eighty one, 149 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: which is a direct result of the Federal Reserve. And 150 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: to the extent that inflation was even quote solved after that, 151 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: it was mostly a result of the global cooling off 152 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: on the oil markets and learning how to deal with Opek, 153 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: the Iranian Revolution and all of that. So even there, 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: the Iran Iraq War probably had more to do with 155 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: solving inflation than in the actual VET or reserve. I'm 156 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: reading a book about the seventies right now, so very well, 157 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: right up. Well, yeah, and Sager, are we talking more 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: about that in his monologue than parallels are We've both 159 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: been pretty fascinated by the parallels lately, because even within 160 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: like the Left group infighting, there were parallels and that 161 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of strange parallels going on. But yeah, 162 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's there was one other detail in 163 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: this interview with Biden's it's a little bit of an 164 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: a side, but I think the audience would be interested 165 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: in it, which is remember how they hung the picture, 166 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: the portrait of FDR in the White House, and this 167 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: was a signal like I get it, and I get 168 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: the challenge, and we're going to have a new new deal, 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: and I'm taking on the mantle of Roosevelt. Well, you 170 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: learn in this interview that he actually had nothing to 171 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: do with it. It It was I guess John Meacham that 172 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: hung it there, and he looked at it and said, 173 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 1: why Franklin Roosevelt. Not that I don't like Franklin Roosevelt, 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: but well I put that big portrait of Franklin Roosevelt. 175 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: And Meacham said, no one ever inherited that kind of 176 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: big circumstances and dire more dire straits than he did 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: that last time. And I said, oh, that's that's encouraging. 178 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: So anyway, apparently Biden never really embraced this FDR thing. 179 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: I think that's pretty clear at this point. But goud 180 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: And put this next hair sheet up on the screen 181 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,599 Speaker 1: because this article, I really recommend people actually go and 182 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: read the whole things. From David Lynch at the Washington Post. 183 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Fed's interest rate hikes may mark start of tough new 184 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: economic climate. And I'll read you a little bit of this. 185 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: So they said, for forty years now, the formula for 186 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: US economic growth has been the same, cheap money, and 187 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: that has been led by the Fed. Consumers could borrow 188 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: easily to buy homes and cars. Companies, whether profitable or not, 189 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: could tact bond investors for cash to fund their operations. 190 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Washington could afford to bail out both Wall Street Main 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: Street by running eye popping budget deficits made possible by 192 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: borrowed funds. Now, with the end of that easy money regime, 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you're in a very very different era. So, I mean, 194 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: you remember, not that long ago, the sort of conventional 195 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: wisdom was stock market only goes up. And you can 196 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: understand why people felt that way because we had a 197 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: crash during the coronavirus crisis. But it was very short 198 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: because immediately the FED leaps into action to backstop everything. 199 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: And so even as much of the economy was on hold, 200 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, people were at home, there was very little 201 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: that was actually happening. The stock market kept going up 202 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: and up and up. So you were seeing these twin 203 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: headlines of like you know, massive unemployment, massive numbers of 204 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: people filing for unemployment claims and yet stock market at 205 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: record levels. So there was just very recently this assumption 206 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: that oh, you can't lose, right, I mean, this thing 207 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: is it was fake. It was completely divorced from any 208 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of reality. It was backstopped and propped up by 209 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: the Fed. Now that's being pulled back, and so we're 210 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: going to talk a minute. Of course, Crypto has taken 211 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: taken it on the chin, but you had asset bubbles 212 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: and basically every category. Now the air is coming out 213 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: of the tires in every single way. That is leading 214 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: to very new reality. I mean you've had they say, 215 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: now the total value of debt that's considered distressed by 216 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: SMP global ratings has nearly doubled over the past month 217 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: to forty nine billion, and that includes securities for companies 218 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: that you know and have heard very much about, Write Aid, 219 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: bed Bath and beyond they mentioned. So you know, this 220 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: is a pretty extraordinary shift, and I think it really 221 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: remains to be seen how the economy handles it. Because 222 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: we've had effectively zero interest rates for the Fed more 223 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: or less for quite a while now, certainly the last decade. 224 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: The amount that they have propped up these asset classes 225 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: has been extraordinary. By the way, that's part of what 226 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: fed inflation. I know, everybody you know loves to talk 227 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: about like what went to consumers and regular working class people, 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: but there was far more money, trillions of dollars that 229 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: was injected into to backstop the markets that fed inflation. Ultimately, 230 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: it also fed massive inequality. And so now as they 231 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: try to unwind that, it's going to be you may 232 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: not have benefited from that on the way up, but 233 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: it is going to be pain all the way around. 234 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: If the only way we can get out of the 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: cycle is for the FED to trigger a RECESSI which 236 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: is where we're yeah, and I just you know, emphasizing again. 237 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: There's actually a decent quote here by the chief research 238 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: officer at Barclay's Bank which he's like, look, this truth 239 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: is that the economy, this economy is designed to run 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: off of low interest rates, and so we are reshaping 241 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: the fundamentals of all of the Fortune five hundred companies, 242 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: and the way that they are going to have to 243 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: behave all the way from the fact is now that 244 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: higher interest rates mean that they are going to have 245 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: to spend more in paying down their debt too. They're 246 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: not going to be able to freely borrow in order 247 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: to invest in any of their actual resources in capital, 248 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: both in equipment. Their expenditures are going to be able 249 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: to probably going to go down as a result of this. 250 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: This also means though that they have to protect their 251 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: stock price. To protect their stock price, there is only 252 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: one way to do that. Whenever money is expensive to borrow, 253 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: you have to cut cost which will mean you have 254 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: to either cut wages or not give wage increases to 255 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: keep pace with inflation, or you have to fire people. 256 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I think that's the direction that we're going 257 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: to be heading in and it really is a result 258 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: of government policy and to the federal Reserve will have 259 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: broad impacts on everybody's retirement portfolios, on your ability to borrow. 260 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: More importantly, for all of you I think we're listening 261 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: to the show, is just the sheer ability in order 262 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: to get hired and the labor market mobility that we 263 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: saw over the last two years, which was extraordinary, and 264 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: you know we're about to get to the labor movement. 265 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: It could cripple the labor movement. You know, if you 266 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: see unemployment tick up, which is the explicit goal of 267 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve right now. Yeah, well what does that mean. 268 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean it means that you're going to have less 269 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: of competitive of a job market. So you put all 270 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: that together and it's a grim picture for people. I 271 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: don't I don't think there's another way to say it. 272 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And you know, all that 273 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: the froth and the access that were in the markets 274 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: that said things like these zombie companies which are losing 275 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: money every single quarter, but because they can borrow money 276 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: so cheaply, they're able to make their interest payments and 277 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: kind of continue to link limp along. You had the 278 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: massive growth of these SPACs special purpose acquisition companies. These 279 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: are they call them blank check shell corporations, you know 280 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: that have avoid a lot of regulation. A lot of 281 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: those sort of like spectacularly failed. And so because you had, 282 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, these massive trillions injected into the market in 283 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: this way, you created all of these things that now 284 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: are being pulled back dramatically. And I don't think anyone 285 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: knows exactly how this is going to play out because 286 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: we've never been in exactly this place before. Even though 287 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: there are a lot of parallels with the seventies. We've 288 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: not ever been exactly in this place before. And Sager, 289 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: something you've been pointing to is the consumer sentiment. I mean, 290 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: if you just ask the American people how they're feeling 291 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: about things, it is not good at all. Go ahead 292 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: and put this up on the screen. You can see 293 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: the best sentiment here they show in this chart they 294 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: say was in two thousand and this goes back to 295 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: it looks like about nineteen eighteen fifty five. The worst 296 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: sentiment is now right now. So worst sentiment now then, 297 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: even during you know, financial crash two thousand and eight, 298 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, and the nineteen seventies of high 299 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: and fell in the nineteen seventies, fly the worst consumer 300 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: sentiment on record in the United States. And people just 301 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: don't seem to grapple with that. It's why Putin's price 302 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: hike doesn't land. It's why best economy since World War Two? 303 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Who doesn't land. Unless you are speaking to that sentiment, 304 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: you are not going to be a successful politician. And Biden, 305 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: the administration they have no answer for this. They continue 306 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: to just be dawdling. They don't have they don't appear 307 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: in step with the broad problem of Americans. I've been saying, 308 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: we've been saying this now for what a year. It's like, 309 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it takes to learn, and 310 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I get these stupid leaks coming out of the White House. 311 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Stein had a story over the weekend about how 312 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: one idea was to give people gas rebates in order 313 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: to spend on gas, which would have been a problem 314 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: given that you don't deal to supply. But they couldn't 315 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: even do that. Why because we don't have enough semiconductor 316 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: chips in order to make that happen. So even their 317 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: stupid idea is not actionable because of a supply problem 318 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: that they also and Congress is too addressed, is too perfect. 319 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: And then there's also just this is another thing that 320 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: Jeff Stein tweeted, They've been considering this for four months, 321 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, four months and they're still apparently considering it. 322 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: It's like should or get off the pot? I mean, yeah, honestly, 323 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: and let me think about this, not just on this 324 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: a student loaned like all these days they flowed them, 325 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: they think about they agonize them as like Jesus Christ, 326 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: people are suffering. Now, take even if it's experimental, like 327 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, This is part of what FDR. It was like, 328 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: we're just gonna throw everything against the wall. We're gonna 329 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: figure out what works, what doesn't work. But we're gonna act, 330 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna try things, We're gonna be creative and think 331 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: outside the box. And I think that more than anything, 332 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: has hamstrung him because if you look at the trajectory 333 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: of his entire career, what has he always done. I mean, 334 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: he's always tried to locate himself in the safest, most 335 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: centrius part of the Democratic Party, and there's no answers 336 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: there for a situation like this. I mean, that's why 337 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: his only move here he put on his op ed 338 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: of oh here's my plan, et cetera, et cetera. It 339 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: boiled down to yah, leave it to the Fed. Leave 340 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: it to the Fed. That's it. And the only thing 341 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: the Fed can really do is trigger a recession that 342 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: massively hurts you. It doesn't even deal with the real 343 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: core of the recent that we ended up in this 344 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: situation in the first place. It is a sad, sad 345 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: state of affairs. Ultimately, let's talk about crypto Well, some 346 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: brutality in the crypto markets. Let's put this up there 347 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: on the screen, Bitcoin falling below twenty thousand dollars for 348 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: the first time since twenty twenty. This is just a 349 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: broad problem in the entire market, from Bitcoin to ethereum. 350 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: On Saturday, at one point, Bitcoin was down to seventeen thousand, 351 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: which is the lowest that they've seen in well over 352 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,719 Speaker 1: two and a half years. You also had Coinbase, one 353 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: of the largest trading platforms for crypto assets, laying off 354 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: eighteen percent of its staff, citing the recession and crypto 355 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: decline specifically as the reason. The Bank Celsius remember what 356 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: we talked about previously, which was pausing all of its withdrawals, 357 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: and also there's a hedge fund which, as a result 358 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: of both crypto and the broader stock market decline, had 359 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: major challenges. So you put all these together, presaged by 360 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: that tara usd coin, the decoupling of the stable coin 361 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: that we talked about previously, and you see a contraction 362 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: of almost seven trillion dollars in wealth in decline that 363 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: you've seen over just the last couple of months. All 364 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: that put together just spells real doom times. I think 365 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: for some of the biggest froth in the crypto community, 366 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: both from NFTs to some of the high interest loans 367 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: that people were taking out. Actually, it's an interesting story 368 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: about how with crypto, and I'd warned about this before people, 369 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: which is that people were staking their crypto on behalf 370 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: of cash loans, so based on the present value of 371 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: their asset. Well, then the banks and other of these 372 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: crypto banks started doing margin calls once the asset declined, 373 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: and nobody would pay up on their margin call. And 374 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: because all of this isn't none of this is regulated 375 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: under the SEC or FDIC, and so they don't have 376 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: a lot of I mean, they have some legal recourse 377 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: and they can try and settle it eventually through lawsuit, 378 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: but you either have the cash on your balance sheet 379 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: or you don't. And that was part of the reason 380 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: why they had to pause that. We'll point this New 381 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: York Times story up on the screen, which everybody's trying 382 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: to point to, you know, what exactly is happening in 383 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: the crypto markets, and their winning really to tether the 384 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: decline and the unpegging away from the stable coin as 385 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: a real indicator of just where so much of the 386 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: froth had been concentrated. And I think this is really 387 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: appeal back both in the economy and also in crypto. 388 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Back to fundamentals, I mean five years ago or so 389 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: when I got into the cryptoc community. I told us 390 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: before it was about censorship resistant money, and it was 391 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: about trying to hedge inflation in places like Argentina and 392 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: others where they have like sixty percent hyperinflation, to have 393 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: a semi stable asset that people can conduct commerce in. 394 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: But then it became like blockchains, which became architects for 395 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: all of this complicated financial instrumentation that Wall Street was using. 396 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: Massive loans were flying around and look for a time, 397 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: mega billionaires are being made, you know, Sambank. There are 398 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: hundreds of billionaires that became minted in just the last 399 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: two years I guess not billionaires anymore, but were on 400 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: paper at least at some point. So there was a 401 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: lot of real wealth being generated, and then the decline 402 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: in that from NFTs and more. My concern is not 403 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: with the people who are buildllionaires and now one hundred millionaires. 404 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: It's with normal folks. You know, we talked about on 405 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: Reddit and others, people specifically many influencers and celebrities like 406 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton and like Reese Witherspoon and other people were 407 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: chilling NFTs to their to their fans and getting paid 408 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: huge money in order to do so. By the way, 409 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: they're getting pay in cash, just so we all know. Yeah, 410 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: those people are getting paid in cash and convincing people 411 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: to put their life savings into non fungible tokens. I'm 412 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: not even an unbeliever in the underlying technology of it, 413 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: but the sheer matter is that when you're spending hundreds 414 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars on these platforms, you're going to 415 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: get caught holding the bag, and unfortunately, that is what 416 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: happened to a lot of average people. They also point 417 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: to Latin American countries which were buying either bitcoin or 418 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: crypto currencies as part of their balance sheets as heads 419 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: against inflation. El Salvador being one. Well, they're in serious 420 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: trouble now because of the decline in asset. These are 421 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: developing countries which need that money. You know, they are 422 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: not the reserve currency in order to pay for different 423 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: expenditures and other things in their own countries. So the 424 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: decline has had very real world consequences. Even for I 425 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: saw a story on Tara specifically. Again, I'm you know, 426 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: in Argentina and some other countries where they have hyper inflation. 427 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: People put their life savings in these assets because they said, 428 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: at least I can invest in something which is pegged 429 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: to the US dollar, which is more stable than my 430 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: own currency. And now they're left with almost nothing. So 431 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: it wiped it wiped many normal people's savings completely out. 432 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: Now that's why you shouldn't go in on any asset class. 433 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: But there I mean a lot of that's true, A 434 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: lot of I mean, and a lot of the people 435 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: involved your WORL ultimately just frosters and huckster I mean, 436 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: there were, you know, tons of just pump and dump 437 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: schemes and rug pulls and all kinds of just outright fraud. 438 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Not to mention part of this article about Teather, which 439 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: I had actually followed before, is the fact that, you know, 440 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: the whole idea of tether is that it is backed 441 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: by US dollars. So that was that was the claim. 442 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: And then Letitia James is the Attorney General of News 443 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: going after all kinds of different people Amazon and Facebook 444 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: and Trump and all kinds of others. She said, I 445 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: don't think this is true, and turns out it wasn't true. 446 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: There was also a CFTC investigation that found out of 447 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: their sample timeframe that they were looking at only about 448 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: a quarter of the time did Tether actually have sufficient 449 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: cash reserves? Now they say, okay, we have transparency now, 450 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: and sure a lot of our reserves are held in 451 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: commercial paper, which isn't totally liquid, but we're working to 452 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: change that. There was a bit of a run because 453 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: this is effectively, even though there's lots of like complicated 454 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: jargon here and new fangled ideas, it ultimately comes down 455 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: to this is basically a bank and there was a 456 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: run on the bank and they were able to get 457 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: through that, even though it depegged for a while. So 458 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, that means we're good to go. But 459 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: there's still a lot of questions over whether if you know, 460 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: things continue to crash. I should say crypto as I 461 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: think up a little bit this morning from the lows 462 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: that we experienced just recently. But if there is a 463 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: serious crash and there's an even more serious run on Tether, 464 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: are they going to be able to ultimately stand up? 465 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: And this is one of the sort of bedrock underpinning 466 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: of the entire crypto world. So if Tether were to 467 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: fall you'd have massive spillover effects into all kinds of 468 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: other things. And so that's the part that they're looking 469 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: at here. I think the kicker to this article kind 470 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: of says it all because, as you said, you know, 471 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: the idea. I really understand the appeal of the initial idea, right, 472 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: I genuinely do, and for a long time very crypto, 473 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: sort of just agnostic because it was interesting, right, and 474 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: I think in certain situations, like in countries that are 475 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: kind of destabile at high pasulation, whatever, the whole idea, Okay, 476 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: this will be a hedge against inflation. Well we can 477 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: see very much now that that is not the case. 478 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: The original concept is this will be an actual medium 479 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: of exchange. Well it turned into just a massive speculative 480 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: asset that is not backed by anything. I know. A 481 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: lot of crypto believers will say, well, the US dollar 482 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: is also just based on an idea, but that's not true. 483 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: We have the largest, like the largest military in the 484 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: world is backing the US dollar. The US government is 485 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: not amazing these days, but either the United States of 486 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: America isn't nothing. So it is a very different scenario here. 487 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: And ultimately, to the point of a lot of this 488 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: just became about gambling and a casino and finding the 489 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: next greater fool. The quote at the end of this 490 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: piece they say, everyone's freaking out, like, oh my god, 491 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: I lost my life savings, said mister Collins, who found 492 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: a tether with mister Pearson now runs a crypto venture 493 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: called block Fee. That's a tragedy, but it's just as 494 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: much of a tragy when someone says I went to 495 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 1: a casino and lost my life savings. That doesn't mean 496 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: less regulate casinos out of existence. So even their advocates 497 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: are basically comparing it to a casino right now, By 498 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: the way, casino's extremely highly regulated. Also that's true. Yeah, 499 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: that's actually yeah. I mean there's been about a gaming commission, 500 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: and yes, oversight, even though I do think a lot 501 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: of a very exploitative I mean, listen, at the end 502 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: of the day, it was speculative, and one of the 503 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: warnings always at the top was if you get in, 504 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: you better be willing to lose it all. I don't 505 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of people were actually told that message. 506 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: They just saw people making extraordinary amounts of wealth. And 507 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: I think a lot of these people, specifically influencers and 508 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: others who were pushing their average person into some of 509 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: these assets without understanding any of the underlying risk. That 510 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: was the major problem. I mean, I think I'm pretty 511 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: sure any time I've advocated bitcoin, I've been like, listen, 512 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: I've at certain points been down up to one hundred percent, 513 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: and that's something that you should know. The day that 514 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: I bought bitcoin, I anticipated losing every single dollar of it. 515 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, this is kind of interesting. 516 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: I didn't do it to make money. I was like, 517 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: this is a cool project. It's an interesting idea, and 518 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: the idea of censorship resistant money, especially whenever we point to, 519 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: you know, the Canadian protests and others with crypto. Although 520 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: the government did end up seizing, that just showed me. 521 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: I was like, huh, that's a cool use case. But 522 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: if you did it in order to to try and 523 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: go number go up, it's like, well, then that's equivalent 524 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: to investing in some penny stock scheme. Yeah. Well, And 525 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: even some of the idealism turned out a lot of 526 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: the people involved, you know, they said what they thought 527 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: was convenient for their own bank accounts, so like Sam 528 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: bankmin Freed for example, And if you're truly invested in 529 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: like the libertarian ideal. I would think that going in 530 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: influence peddling with the Democratic Party and other powerful political 531 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: officials kind of anathema to the best case for that worldview, 532 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: and yet that's exactly what he was in the process 533 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: of doing. I think ultimately stillar makes a case for 534 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: this in a piece that posted over the weekend, in 535 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: order to make sure that when the bottom falls out, 536 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: their behinds are ultimately protected. They didn't manage to pull 537 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: that off in time. There was an incredible I recommend 538 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: apparently there was a It was controversial the piece that 539 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Stiller put out, but I think it's worth watching and 540 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: you can judge for yourself. But he does have a 541 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: clip in there that's pretty extraordinary of one of these 542 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: big boosters who's like, take all your life savings and 543 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: put it in crypto. The smartest thing you can do 544 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: is put everything you have in crypto. And if you 545 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: don't have mortgage your house, take out credit cards, you 546 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: need to spend all day, every day thinking of how 547 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: you can get every single penny you possibly can into crypto. 548 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: Like that's the level of insanity and irresponsibility and just 549 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's it's so wrong to say that to 550 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: anyone about literally anything, let alone something as speculative as crypto. 551 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: So I'd be wrong to say that about the dollar 552 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: two okay, anything, literally anything. Okay. So I mentioned a 553 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: couple of times. We have a new development in the 554 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: labor movement that is pretty exciting. So the first ever 555 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: Apple store has now unionized. This is in a suburb 556 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: outside of Baltimore, Maryland. Let's go ahead and put this 557 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: up on the screens for more Perfect Union, they say, 558 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: breaking in an historic victory Apple store employees in Maryland. 559 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: When the first union at Apple, despite a nationwide anti 560 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: union campaign by Apple management, workers voted overwhelmingly sixty five 561 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: to thirty three to unionize with I think it's the 562 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: Twitter handle here is at machines ts union machinists, I 563 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: think is yeah, that's right. So anyway, I think it's 564 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: like United Machinists of America something like that. Okay. So 565 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: Apple workers outside of Baltimore unionizing. Very exciting. It's interesting 566 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: in the video that More Perfect Union talks about here, 567 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: they interview the workers and some of them said, you know, 568 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: I've worked here for a long time before the pandemic. 569 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: We had a horrific situation. You guys remember when Apple 570 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: was caught basically degrading their old phone batteries so that 571 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: people will be forced into new phones. Who's taking the 572 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: brunt of the abuse from customers who are pissed off? 573 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Rightfully about what's going on? These Apple store workers pre pandemic. 574 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure if you guys have ever been in these 575 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: totally packed I always find a very stressful environment. They're 576 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: in their day and day out and felt like they 577 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: had no say in the conditions to their workplace and 578 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: just having to take this abuse from customers and like 579 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: no way to really deal with it. Then of course 580 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: the pandemic presents a whole other level of challenge. And 581 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: they talked too about how they were really inspired by 582 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: they saw what happened with Amazon, they saw what happened 583 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: with the Starbucks workers, and that sparked the idea of hey, 584 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: if they could do it, we can do it too, 585 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: So that was interesting. I mean, of course, the thing 586 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm very worried about, though, is there's a lot of 587 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: factors for why right now you see all this grassroots 588 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: labor movement organizing workers saying, hey, we're not going to 589 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: quit our job. Or to stay here and organize. I 590 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: think the biggest factor underpinning that is number one, you 591 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: have some natural leaders who have kind of galvanized the movement. 592 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: But number two, you have it for the first time 593 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: in a long time, the amount of productivity gains actually 594 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: going to workers going up, and so you had workers 595 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: in an actually comparatively strong position because there are lots 596 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: of jobs out there, there just aren't a lot of 597 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: good jobs, so that gave them a lot of leverage. 598 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: It's not easy right now to hire replacement workers as 599 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: it has been for most of my life, where people 600 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: could just be treated as disposable. If we end up 601 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: in a recession and the FED is outright saying we 602 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: want to cool off the labor market and depress wages, 603 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: well that's going to really make it a lot more 604 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: difficult and take a lot of that leverage out of 605 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: this burgeoning movement. So Bloomberg had an article about this. 606 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and put this up on the screen. 607 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Here they say Fed's inflation battle to strict workers of 608 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: rare bargaining power. Tight pandemic labor markets made employers offer 609 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: better deals, But cure for soaring prices may mean higher 610 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: unemployment too. And again this is not speculative, this is 611 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: you know outright what they are saying and what they 612 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: are telling you. So the fact that we've had a 613 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: little bit more power flow to worker that could all 614 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: very easily be reverse because ultimately, you know, when you're 615 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: just desperate to have a job, any job, it's a 616 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: lot harder to take that risk of unionized and we've 617 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: seen how companies have been shameless about firing workers who 618 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: get involved in these efforts. I think that the Great 619 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Recession is a good reminder of this. You know, when 620 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: employment unemployment was like ten percent, that was actually one 621 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: of the periods where unionization and pushback against both union 622 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: rights and worker power was at its highest level, and 623 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: it was capitalized on, obviously by a lot of anti 624 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: union movement, and it was specifically because they had the 625 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: ability in order to mass replace workers. Now, look, unemployment 626 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: is only three point six percent, and of course every 627 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: business that you go to has a help wanted sign. 628 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: But as you begin to see contraction, and if specifically 629 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: if you start to see firings or worse not new hirings, 630 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: putting back on hours, people closing their stores and not 631 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: posting new listings. That's when we're going to see major issues, 632 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: and it almost always starts at the lowest end of 633 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: the income spectrum, which is where we've seen some of 634 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: the highest growth. So you could see a real yo 635 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: yo effect of twenty nineteen, not a lot of power. 636 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: There was a tightening labor market, certainly, but then twenty twenty, 637 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one that didn't have a particular amount of impact. 638 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: And then when unemployment really begins to rise, that is 639 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: when power goes away, and it goes away very quick quickly. 640 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't think we should really underestimate how fast the 641 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve and some of this monetary policy can trigger recession. 642 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: It can happen within six to eight months. I mean 643 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: by some measures were already in recession. Personally, I don't 644 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: even like these economic metrics like bear market at twenty 645 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: percent arbitrary. Yeah, it is arbitrary to me. It's about people. 646 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Ask people how their people are the economy. We are 647 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: the ones who conducted commerce. When people tell you the 648 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: lowest consumer sentiment on record, that's a recession in my opinion, 649 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: because it's not even just about their spending, it's about expectations. 650 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: Expectations are one of the biggest parts to manage inflation. 651 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: And you can see do you have the Treasury Secretary 652 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: saying it's not going to come down any time soon, Biden. 653 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean there's no plan as I can see right 654 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: now to do anything about it, which is going to 655 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: drive people to be even more pessimistic, which means that 656 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: they're going to presume or consume less gas, maybe buy 657 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: less stuff, not invest in new things, not buy a 658 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: new house because of the mortgage rate. That's where everything 659 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: starts to bleed into I mean having it. I mean, 660 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: we put that one tweet up there last week where 661 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: someone was like I have a one point seventy five 662 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: percent mortgage, Like I'm not moving whenever mortgage is six percent. 663 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to sell my house. Well, that 664 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: is a lot of people right now. Same with cars. 665 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if anybody's seeing the used 666 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: car market recently, it's out of control. I mean, you know, 667 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: like a basic SUV is going for like forty five 668 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. It's complete insanity. So it's a it's 669 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: a it's very tough for people right now. It is, 670 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: and what we have seen routine ly is you know, 671 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: with the people at the top, it's like heads they win, 672 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: tails you lose when of course the market crashes and 673 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: assets collapse, and you know, housing is a lot cheaper, 674 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: like for them to take on the higher interest mortgage. 675 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: They don't even have to because they have to they 676 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: have enough sufficient capital to just be able to buy 677 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: up distress assets so that when things rebound, they get 678 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: richer and richer than ever before. So you know, I 679 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: mean on the other side of in terms of if 680 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: the labor search will continue, which I think has been 681 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: really exciting and you know, a representation of actual true 682 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: democracy and giving people a sense of autonomy and power 683 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: within their day to day lives. Some of I think 684 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: that has come not just from the changes in the 685 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: labor market and the very low unemployment rate, but I 686 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: think it also has come from a genuine shift in 687 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: how people are thinking and relating to their work after 688 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: the pandemic. I think part of it has come from 689 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: a young generation that was inspired by the Bernie Sanders movement, 690 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: and you know, the focus on the working class and 691 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: on the labor movement that was sort of like a 692 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: re education for a generation. That is kind of because 693 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: labor unions have been crush on of existence has been 694 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: kind of disconnected from labor. So I do think that 695 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: there are other factors at play that aren't just related 696 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: to the baseline metrics of the economy. There's just no 697 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: doubt about it that this landscape will make things a 698 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: lot more difficult. Okay, let's talk about Uvaldi. So some 699 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: new and interesting revelations. Let's start with the first and 700 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: the foremost, which is that let's put this on the screen. 701 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: Euvaldi and Ualdi police have hired a private law firm 702 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: to fight against being required to release body camera footage 703 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 1: and other records related to the school shooting. They say 704 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: that files could be highly embarrassing and involve emotional and 705 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: mental distress. I mean, I think it probably caused more 706 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: emotional mental distress whenever little children were killed because you 707 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: weren't doing your job. And the city is now working 708 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: with this law form not just release body camera footage, 709 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: which I mean, I guess you could make an argument 710 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: about that, but this is specifically about all records related 711 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: to the mass shooting. This is a letter that they 712 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: were actually given in response to public information requests. Obviously, 713 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: reporters and everyone else across Texas has been trying to 714 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: foil body camera footage, photos, nine to one one calls, emails, 715 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: text messages, criminal records and everything. And they're blocking every 716 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: possible thing that they can because this city has not 717 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: voluntarily released one scrap of information as a result of this. 718 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, which is that the city is 719 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: now actually asking Ken Paxton, who's the Attorney General, who 720 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: will get to for a determination on what information is 721 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: required to release to the public, which apparently is the 722 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: standard practice in the state of Texas. So the Texas 723 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: ag now has the ability to determine which and any, 724 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: if all, records should be released. They're hiding and fighting 725 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: behind this lawsuit. Meanwhile, the Texas Attorney General and the 726 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: governor have the ability right now in order to release 727 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 1: all of this to the public, which it certainly should 728 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: be in order to make these gentlemen be held to account. 729 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: Remember that guy Pete Aredando, the chief of Valdi CISD Police. 730 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: He remains completely unavailable to the public. He's been dodging reporters. 731 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: Their hope is all of us will just completely move on. 732 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: At the same time, the San Antonio Express doing some 733 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: great journalism here. Let's throw this on the screen. They 734 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,479 Speaker 1: have a source which says that the police never tried 735 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: to open the door to the classrooms where the Uvalde 736 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: gunmen had kids trapped. Now, we had some indications of 737 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: this in the official timeline that was given. Eventually that 738 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,919 Speaker 1: came out on how they were all holding outside about 739 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: how eventually border patrol had to ask and go and 740 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: get the key in order to try and enter the classroom. 741 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: But this makes it official. Surveillance videos show they did 742 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: not try even once in order to open the door 743 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: to the classrooms where the gunmen had the kids trapped 744 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: for seventy seven minutes. They're also our major questions here 745 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: why was that door unlocked in the first place, in 746 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: addition to the back door. Remember, originally the cops tracked 747 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: to blame a teacher. They were like, oh, a teacher 748 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: put a brick or something in the doorp the door. 749 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: They're about to go get their cell phone out of 750 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: their car. No surveillance video, and the lawyers of the 751 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: teacher contested that, and it's been confirmed now that she 752 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: actually closed the door. She didn't do anything wrong. And 753 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: they show also that perhaps the classroom door had been 754 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: both unlocked during the classroom, but also the school door, 755 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: and all of this just points to not only total 756 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: engross incompetence on behalf of the police officers, but now 757 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: full fledged cover up. Yees see, No, that's right, and 758 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: it's at every level. Remember this dude, Pete Aredono, he's 759 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: now on the city council, so he's involved in the 760 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: decisions at the city level as well in terms of 761 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: how they're going to approach this and what they're ultimately 762 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: going to release. But it sure appears like from the 763 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: bottom all the way to the governor, we're going to 764 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: get to the ag and the governor in just a moment. 765 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: They don't. They want to completely stonewall the actual details 766 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: of what happened that day coming out, and we have 767 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: already seen so many lives that they have had to 768 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: pull back. You just have to wonder, like what else 769 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: could they possibly be hiding, because this is complete insanity. 770 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this thing about the door, I'm just I'm 771 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: beside myself because Aradonda, remember his lawyer came out and said, no, 772 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: he was trying every king and with every key, was 773 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: just prayerful and hopeful that it would unlock the door. Well, 774 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: the way he said it. It made you think, right 775 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: that he was trying the keys on the door to 776 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: the classroom, the gunman actually is no. According to this source, 777 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: he was trying the keys on a different classroom door 778 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: to see if he could find a master key that 779 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: might unlock all of the doors. Okay, the doors there. 780 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: Remember the gunman went into one classroom and that there 781 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: was an adjoining door, so he was able to get 782 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: into two classrooms and massacre almost all of the kids 783 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: and the teachers that were in those two rooms. Well, 784 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: one of them, it appears like, had malfunctioned and was unlocked. 785 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: Hause remember these doors were all supposed to automatically lock 786 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: once they're closed. Now it looks like the way the 787 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: gunman was able to get in is because one of 788 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: these locks, the back door locked malfunction. Now one of 789 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: these classroom door door locks malfunction, so he was able 790 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: to waltz right in. They're saying in the investigation that 791 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: he would have been unlikely to be able to lock 792 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: that door himself from the inside. So the whole time 793 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: the cops were standing outside the door, it was unlocked. 794 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: All they had to do was turn the doorknob, and 795 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: the I mean that's that just I can't I can't 796 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: even believe. Every time we get a new revelation, I 797 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: just cannot believe the callous, cowardice failures of every single 798 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: one of these people. It's mind boggling. And a police 799 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: source actually says surveillance video conforms that the officers all 800 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: had access to a crowbar tour, the tool that could 801 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: have opened the door to right, So even if it 802 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: was locked, if you want to, you could have gone 803 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: in there. Even it was locked, they could have blown 804 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: in their way, tried to blast away in there. They 805 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: could have tried to open the door. They waited seventy 806 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: seven minutes. I mean, all of this is just a 807 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: massive screw up, not even screw up, willful, almost incompetence. 808 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't even think we know the half of it. Yeah, 809 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: I mean, the lengths they're going to to keep the 810 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: body camera footage and all of this from coming out. 811 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: I don't think we even know the half of it. 812 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: And one of the experts they point to as well 813 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: is that this is kind of the problem with the 814 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: body worn cameras. You know, the idea is this like 815 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: police accountability, but in reality, oftentimes the police departments themselves, 816 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: who basically get to decide what gets released and what doesn't. So, 817 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 1: of course, in a situation where you had sketchy behavior, 818 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: outright violations of their code of conduct or even a 819 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: legal behavior, somehow the police department finds a way to, oh, 820 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: we can't. Really we'd love to, but we can't release 821 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: that particular footage. And you know that's part of the 822 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: story of what's going on here too. And then in 823 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: terms of Ken paxton't s thlow this on the screen, 824 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: the Texas Attorney General says, well, God always has a 825 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,839 Speaker 1: plan whenever he's asked about the Vivaldi shooting. Look, I 826 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: just think that it points to this guy needs to 827 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: step up for Texas. Him and Governor Abbott need to 828 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: have a full fledged actual investigation, get all of the 829 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: records and the police recu footage, everything out, edit it together, 830 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: and explain to the citizens of Texas what went wrong here. 831 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: And this is not throwing you know, everybody under the bus. 832 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: It's the people who are responsible. Root them out of government, 833 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: throw their asses out of office, appoint new people. Frankly, 834 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: YOU'VALDIPD would probably be disbanded. At the very least you've 835 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: Aldy CISD and the state should step in, and you 836 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: know we can as well say defunded. I said, take 837 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,919 Speaker 1: it away and you know, put some new people in there. 838 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, the Texas Department of Public Safety 839 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: should step up, you know, even apparently the school itself 840 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: has yet to reopen. I mean, there's just so much 841 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: that needs to actually happen down there, and I think 842 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: a lot of it as being forgotten and I unfortunately, 843 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: you know, look what happened is that we had a 844 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: national conversation or whatever about gun control. We have a 845 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: supposed deal which may come by the end of this week. 846 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: Looks like falling apart. Yeah, right, that looks like it's 847 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: falling apart. Which at Texas GOP convention, as I said, 848 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, John Cornyn, I thought he was going to 849 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: face some trouble over this, and he was booed on 850 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: the stage and is apparently getting significant pushback over the 851 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 1: red flag provisions of the law. But all of this 852 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: has foregone that a lot of the public I think 853 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: is still very interested in this, but I think the 854 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: national media and the conversation is continuing to pass these 855 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: kids by, and this These are really the most direct 856 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: way that we can at least hold the people responsible 857 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: for what they did, the very very very least that 858 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 1: could possibly be done. And just to read you the 859 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: whole pacton quote here, because he got asked specifically by 860 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: a pastor what you would say to the victims' families, 861 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: he says, I'd have to say, Look, there's always a plan. 862 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: I believe God always has a plan. Life is short, 863 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: no matter what it is. Yeah, come on, come on. 864 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: And then the last piece of this is I think 865 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: we did our best to give the governor Greg Abbott 866 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: credit for admitting, you know, saying he was furious about 867 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: the way that he had been misled because originally he 868 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: came out and disseminated the lies that were being fed 869 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: to him, and you all know how that original timeline 870 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: just completely fell apart, multiple lies, multiple shifting storylines. So 871 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: he says, he's ultimately livid. We'll go ahead and put 872 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: this piece up on the screen. So the Texas Tribune 873 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: and Pro Publica have submitted about seventy requests to state 874 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,799 Speaker 1: and local agencies for emergency response documentations surrounding the mass 875 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: shooting at rob Elementary most likely will not be released 876 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: publicly for months if ever. Greg Abbott's office specifically and 877 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: the Texas Department of Public Safety, the US Marshall Service, 878 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: and the City of Yuvaldi are asking the state's attorney 879 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: general for permission to withhold records that may offer tangible 880 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: answers to the contradictory accounts. So again, whole of government 881 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: cover up, from the local officials, the police department, the 882 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: city council, all the way up to now we know 883 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: the Governor of Texas and the US Marshall Service trying 884 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: to block the release of records that would finally tell 885 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: us the truth of what actually happened that day after 886 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: being fed so many wise. Yeah, like I said, stand 887 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: up for Texas, stand up and show the country you 888 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: know what really happened here, and try and take charge 889 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: of the situation. So I just think it's such a catastrophe. 890 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: All right, guys, a little update on the summer travel season, 891 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: which is not as frivolous as my lead there makes 892 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: it sound good. And put this tear sheet from Politico 893 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 1: up on the screen. So pee poota judge, our transport, 894 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: our great transportation secretary. He says, the US might act 895 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: against airlines on consumers consumer's behalf so apparently, and I'm 896 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: just learning a lot of about this. The Transportation Secretary, 897 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: which is what Pete's job is now, actually has a 898 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: lot of power to go after airlines who are abusing consumers. 899 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: And what we are seeing take place repeatedly now this summer, 900 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: there was a whole Memorial Day a complete debacle, thousands 901 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: of flights ultimately canceled. Turned out the day I was 902 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: flying to LA with Kyle. We got very lucky because 903 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: that ended up being one of the worst days of 904 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: the year also for flight cancelation, seventeen hundred some flights canceled. 905 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: The next day was almost just as bad, and not 906 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 1: only that. What it turns out is obviously, in the summer, 907 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: there's whether there's issues. We all get that, and sometimes 908 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: it's ultimately unavoidable. But what it looks like is happening 909 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: is these airlines don't have sufficient staff to man the 910 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: flights that they are scheduling. So when you're booking your flight, 911 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: they basically know in advance, we're not actually going to 912 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: have the pilots or the crew available to fly all 913 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: these flights that we are booking, so they are knowingly 914 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: screwing you over and then you're in a taxi on 915 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: the way to the airborn and you get that text 916 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: that your flight is canceled, and then they don't have 917 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: anywhere near sufficient customer service represents to get people rebooked. 918 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: They're screwing people on the price, so they have escalated 919 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: ticket prices way beyond what ultimately is justified by their 920 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 1: legitimate increase in cost, and they are ripping consumers off 921 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to there are regulations about when you 922 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: are required to give a mandatory refund either because your 923 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: flight is canceled or because you suffer an extraordinary delay, 924 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: and they're sitting on, you know, billions of dollars that 925 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: they are supposed to have given to passengers that they 926 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: instead dupe passengers into accepting, like, oh, we'll give you 927 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: a credit for future travel instead. So Pete could be 928 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,319 Speaker 1: doing a lot about this, and ultimately all he did 929 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: was meet with the airline executives sort of quiz them 930 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: on a few things and say, well, well, I want 931 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: to see how July fourth goes. And then here's the 932 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: part that's kind of funny. The very next day, this 933 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: is from Matt Stoller after Transportation Secretary Terry Pete Buotage 934 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 1: met with airline leaders to quote quiz them about widespread 935 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: flight disruptions. His own flight was canceled and he had 936 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: to drive from Washington to New York. The last piece here, 937 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 1: this is a fantastic piece from American Prospect, written by 938 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: Robert Kutner got and put this up on the screen. 939 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: So the title here's Pete Bootage's day job, ambitious transportation 940 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: secretary is the power to go after multiple abuses by 941 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,399 Speaker 1: the airline and signal administration support for suffering consumer. He 942 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: has barely touched it. This goes through a lot of 943 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: what I just said about the price gouging, about the 944 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: intentional staffing issues about of course they want to pass blame, 945 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: and I think there is also blame to go here 946 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: with the FAA, which falls also under Pete's you know, 947 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: the FAA short staff that's causing problems as well. But 948 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: the last thing I'll say about this which really sticks 949 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: in my crass, they say, he points out, remember the 950 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: airlines are saying, oh, we're having trouble getting pilots is 951 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: so hard, et cetera, et cetera. First of all, there's 952 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: actually a surplus of new pilots. There are plenty of 953 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: pilots ava able to be hired. Second of all, you 954 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: might recall we gave the airlines a massive sixty billion 955 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 1: dollar bailout explicitly under the promise that they would not 956 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: lay off their people. So what did they do and 957 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: said to technically comply with that provision. They instead pressured 958 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: and incentivized their pilots to retire so that they could 959 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 1: keep some of that bank for themselves. So they got 960 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 1: around that rule. And now when they're like, oh, we 961 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: don't have enough staff, well yeah, because you pressured them 962 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: out in spite of the fact that you got a 963 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 1: Baila custom designed to keep your staffing levels where they 964 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: are supposed to be. So anyway, they're evil, they're screwing 965 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: you over, and Pete's not doing anything about it. It's 966 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: a major cluster on everything. I mean, even this is 967 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: again where I look at this and I'm like, okay, 968 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: to the extent that is an FA problem. Okay, fine, 969 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: then call people up out of the You know, the 970 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 1: military has a ton of air traffic controllers. Last time 971 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: I checked Florida, every National Guard in the country all 972 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: has these people, which we've done many times in the past. 973 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 1: Disaster Reagan did it in the traffic control strike back 974 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: in the day. It's not hard in order to try 975 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: and fix have an incentive. They won't even backfill that. 976 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: It's like this, These are the things the very basic 977 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 1: mechanics of government where both pushing back and trying to 978 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: crack down on consumer exploitation by the airlines in addition 979 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,760 Speaker 1: to having I think serious ground delays as a result 980 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: of FAA. It's a cluster. Also, jet fuel doesn't help 981 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 1: any of this, you know, which I've talked about previously. 982 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: Reading the Robert Kuttner piece is just extraordinary. It always 983 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: just reminds me the government is very powerful when it 984 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: wants to be. I mean, it certainly has all of this, 985 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: you know, so much regulatory authority going back all the 986 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: way to the days of the nineteen seventies, which is 987 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: written into statute. But we just don't have competent people 988 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: who are trying to have balance and look out for consumers. 989 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,400 Speaker 1: So Buddha j Edge was here was explicitly humiliated by 990 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: the airline industry. They you know, basically just don't care 991 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: what he has to say because they think he's full 992 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: of it. And are they wrong. I mean, they can 993 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,919 Speaker 1: probably just continue to get away with them, like why 994 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: is the Biden administration really going to do anything. It's 995 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: very basic things like this that make you feel like 996 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: your country and your society is just falling apart or fraying. 997 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: Like when you have flights seventeen hundred flights for something 998 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,720 Speaker 1: a day getting canceled. It's the peak of the season, 999 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people are traveling. TSA travel is 1000 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: like ninety percent of what it was pre pandemic. International 1001 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 1: travel is booming. There's no like COVID test requirements and 1002 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,919 Speaker 1: all this right now. And yet you know, every time 1003 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: I've flown during the pandemic, there's always one or two 1004 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: things that go wrong for no reason and you end 1005 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 1: up waiting forever, and it's just one of those that 1006 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: you're like, why, why is this happening? It's just a 1007 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 1: complete like fraying of all of this. And air travel, 1008 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm air travel. I think in the twenty 1009 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: tens was a basic just bedrock of Yes, it was 1010 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 1: miserable and it was annoying that you have to pay 1011 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: for bags and coke and all that, but it became 1012 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: an unpleasant but generally accessible experience to most Americans, and 1013 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that is slipping away, both 1014 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: on price and in terms of inconvenience, which remember, you 1015 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,479 Speaker 1: know this has impacts on people going to funerals, people 1016 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: going to weddings. It's not like time off is doled 1017 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,399 Speaker 1: out in this country right now. Every day you get 1018 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: burned for people who have, you know, honeymoons or what 1019 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people getting married. I was actually reading 1020 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: about how many people's honeymoon plans are getting destroyed as 1021 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it'stu people spend thousands of thousands of 1022 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,319 Speaker 1: dollars and they can't arrive on time or whatever. So 1023 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: look these major life there's major life impact to these things. 1024 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 1: Every delay, every cancelation ripples through. It's not just like 1025 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: rich businessmen. It also shows you the problem of putting 1026 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 1: someone who has like whose only aspirations are for their 1027 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: own political Yeah, he has no career, zero, in charge 1028 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: of an agency. It's not just he has no competence, 1029 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: which is true, but he also has no incentive to 1030 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: take on powerful interest in industries that could come back 1031 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 1: to bite him in terms of his political career. And 1032 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: that's one of the thing Kuttner points out here is 1033 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,919 Speaker 1: oh Pete's happy to travel around and hand out checks 1034 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: and pose it like a ribbon cutting ceremony, dolling out 1035 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: the money that was passed in the infrastructure bill. But 1036 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to tackling head on a powerful industry interest, 1037 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: for some reason there, he's completely hands off. He never 1038 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: brings it up, and his testimony really gets asked about it, 1039 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: even though you know, again, this is an area where 1040 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: he has tremendous power and the airline industry is just 1041 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: outright screwing people over. So just to give you one 1042 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: small example of what he could do, he could demand 1043 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: that he be given from the airlines their records of 1044 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: what their staffing levels are and how they're going to 1045 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,360 Speaker 1: staff all the flights that they're booking. So instead of 1046 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,440 Speaker 1: just sort of quizzing them on a zoom or whatever 1047 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: he did and saying, ah, I hope you guys have 1048 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: a plan out for July fourth, I'm going to wait 1049 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: and see, he could actually demand the rds because we 1050 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 1: know they've been folllish in the past, and see how 1051 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: are you going to cover all these flights that you 1052 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: are booking. But of course he's not. He's not doing 1053 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,160 Speaker 1: that said, he's just getting his own flight canceled and 1054 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: having to drive places. Yeah, humiliation total America is being 1055 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: humiliated by American airlines and all of them. Yeah, okay, 1056 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: let's get to it. The fall. Obviously, this happened over 1057 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: the weekend. President Biden, how'd you say it took a 1058 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: spill off of his bike. No, let's take a let's 1059 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: all watch the video. For those who are just listening, 1060 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: don't worry, it's only eight seconds. Let's get to it. 1061 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: So the president there falling off of his bike. The 1062 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: excuse that they're getting, don't I'm not saying he's lying. 1063 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: I honestly don't ride bike, so I don't know a 1064 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 1: lot about that. He says he got his foot stuck 1065 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: whenever he was unclipping his foot from the from the pedals. 1066 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm a biking anyway. I've done a lot of biking. 1067 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: It looks it's like it doesn't look like his feet 1068 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: are clipped in like you know, you get the shoes. 1069 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 1: Those of you are peloton writers too, it's the same thing, 1070 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: the shoes that clip into the pedal. It looks like 1071 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 1: he just has the little baskets that your foot goes 1072 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: into one of them. He you know, pulls out, no problem. 1073 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: The other one gets twisted up in the basket. Right, Okay, 1074 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: So here's what they're saying. He got his foot caught 1075 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 1: in the toe clip at the top whenever he was 1076 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 1: trying to put his foot down. Yeah, and that's what 1077 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: resulted in him falling. Now, this is just broadly indicative 1078 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: of and of course you know it was characterized on 1079 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: by It is very hard to watch. Of course, he's 1080 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: the president. He's an eighty year old man, and I 1081 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: don't want to see any eighty year old fall. It 1082 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 1: is though, coming on the heels of a broader conversation 1083 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 1: in the US press right now, which is finally sanctioned, 1084 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 1: is is Biden might just be too old to be president, 1085 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 1: or at the very least to run for president. Again, 1086 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: let's throw the next one up there on the screen. 1087 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: This was like a big breakthrough article for the DC Press, 1088 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,760 Speaker 1: which is Mark Leibovich writing in The Atlantic why Biden 1089 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't run in twenty twenty four. For those who don't 1090 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: know Leech, he's an interesting guy, kind of curmudgeonly. He 1091 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: wrote this book called This Town back in twenty ten, 1092 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: which kind of lambass. It was like a bonfire of 1093 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 1: the vanities, Tom Wolfe takedown of Washington, DC culture and 1094 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: the uber rich who run politics here in the city. 1095 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: But he writes in here frankly, he just seems old. 1096 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: As a direct quote from a senior administration official, and 1097 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,760 Speaker 1: he just says, he says, even to put it bluntly, 1098 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden should not run for reelection. He is just 1099 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: too old. Biden will be eighty in November. He will 1100 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: be eighty two if and he begins a second term. 1101 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: The numbers keep moving more ridiculous from there. It's not 1102 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: eighty two that's the problem. It's the eighty six, as 1103 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: somebody said recently in a focus group. And again not 1104 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,399 Speaker 1: to take anything away from the accomplishments or the livelihoods 1105 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: of elderly Americans, but look at Diane Feinstein. Anybody who 1106 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 1: knows somebody who is old knows that when you're this age, 1107 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: things go real quickly. You know, even a fall. It's 1108 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,320 Speaker 1: a serious issue. I was telling you before. The number 1109 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: one cause of death, this is according to the CDC 1110 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,800 Speaker 1: accidental cause of death for sixty five plus Americans, is falling. 1111 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: You could break a hip and you could die very quickly. 1112 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,399 Speaker 1: People go very you know, off the rails whenever. They're 1113 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: very old and they can deteriorate, and that's why you 1114 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 1: should try and take care of yourself, lift weights and 1115 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: all that to prevent that from happening. But he's already 1116 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: on that side of eighty. Look, he looks good for 1117 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,919 Speaker 1: an eighty year old. It's impressive that he can even 1118 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: ride a bike, and he seems like relatively physically fit 1119 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: for his age. But that doesn't take away from the 1120 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: fact that it is uncomfortable to watch when this is 1121 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: the leader of the free world. And there are many 1122 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: instances where having these types of spells and others publicly 1123 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: publicly have our major political problems. Because Americans aren't stupid. 1124 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,880 Speaker 1: They hold nothing against elderly Americans in the aggregate. They 1125 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: have to consider it, though. It's our duty to consider 1126 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: it when you're entrusting somebody with an enormous level of 1127 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: public service. And that's why I just think it's dishonest 1128 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: when the Biden defe and all of them are like, 1129 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like, who hasn't fallen off 1130 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 1: the bike? Listen? Do I do I need a PhD 1131 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: In exercise science to say that Lance Armstrong falling off 1132 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: a bike is different than an eighty year old falling 1133 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: off a bike. It's not the same, and it shouldn't 1134 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: be uncomfortable, even and knowing that I'm going to get 1135 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: attacked even doing this segment in order to talk about 1136 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: it to people like this is our job. We have 1137 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 1: to acknowledge these uncomfortable truths about people who are in 1138 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 1: public service. Here's what I say is it should be 1139 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: for sure a factor that people are allowed to consider, 1140 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: allowed to talk openly about. I don't think like Leavivich 1141 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: kind of floats in here like maybe we should have 1142 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,600 Speaker 1: an age limit for politicists. I don't believe that at all, 1143 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: And in fact, if it was up to me, I 1144 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 1: might lower the age limit at the bottom end, because 1145 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: ultimately you have to have faith in democracy and allow 1146 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: people to make their own decisions about who they think 1147 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: is best capable. So even with Biden, would I take, 1148 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, and a clearly aging and not in his 1149 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: prime Biden over a Kamala Harris or Pete Boodajij Yes, Okay, 1150 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,640 Speaker 1: way happier to have Biden in there, especially right now 1151 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: with the Ukraine. Warnot that I'm happy with exactly how 1152 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: he's done it, But he has resisted some of the 1153 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: most maximus, most insane hawks within his own administration and 1154 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 1: within the deep state. I don't know that Pete or 1155 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,080 Speaker 1: Kamala would have done the same, you know. So I 1156 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: think that's one factor that people should be able to 1157 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,479 Speaker 1: consider and discuss openly. I think these politicians should have 1158 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: to subject themselves to rigorous questioning from the press, to 1159 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: rigorous debates, so that you have an ability to actually 1160 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: assess what their capability is in order to do the job, 1161 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to like Diane Feinstein. Part of 1162 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: how she's still able to be in there despite notable, 1163 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 1: notable decline way beyond you know what we're seeing with 1164 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: Biden here is because she doesn't have to face the 1165 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 1: public ever, so very hard for the public to get 1166 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: their hands around how she's faring at this point in 1167 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 1: her career ultimately. So that's my view is it should 1168 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: be a completely acceptable, open part of the discussion that 1169 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: we can all engage in. You know, is he up 1170 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: to the task? Is he up to the task today? 1171 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Do we think he'll be up to the task for 1172 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,720 Speaker 1: or six years from now? And what are the alternatives, 1173 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,560 Speaker 1: and let's measure them up against each other. So I'm 1174 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: just in favor of like more democracy, more engagement on 1175 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: these issues, so that people have a full range of 1176 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: options and can sort of balance these various pros and 1177 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: cons of various all very flawed people. I think, you know, 1178 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: the only push I would give on that is, look 1179 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: at California. California is a one party state, rigged primary 1180 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: system with Diane Feinstein and the political elite there run 1181 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: the state sadly like an oligarchy for fifty five or 1182 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: fifty or so million people. They're covering up Feinstein. You know, 1183 01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi, Padilla, all of her colleagues, Gavin nu some 1184 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: everybody knows she's senile, and yet they don't do anything 1185 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: about it. Well, not only do they not about it, 1186 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: they cover it. They cover it up. And progressives wanted 1187 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: to carry her. They said no, and they, you know, 1188 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: they did everything they could to quash that out of existence. 1189 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, there's no work around for having a 1190 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: functioning democracy. That's the That's just the bottom line here. 1191 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: Remember things like again, I feel bad for her, she 1192 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 1: just lost her husband. It's probably extraordinarily difficult. You've been 1193 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 1: in public service your whole life. This is all you 1194 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 1: have left. I know why you want to cling to it. 1195 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't blame you for wanting to do that. However, 1196 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: you represent the interests of the largest state in the country, 1197 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: and those people have a say and deserve competent leadership 1198 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 1: and government on their behalf. How do we know that 1199 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: her constituent services are even close to the level that 1200 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 1: they should be. Well, you can't say that. But again, 1201 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: with Biden, like considered the alternative, which you really want 1202 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: him to be, like age, limit it out and then 1203 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: we're like, I guess we're gonna have President Kamliris now. No. 1204 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: So I think it's better to push for more democracy, 1205 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 1: to push for mandatory debates, to push for you know, 1206 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: the press to actually do their job with regards to this, 1207 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: than it is to put in sort of arbitrary limits 1208 01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 1: that may leave us with even worse choices. And to 1209 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the press, the press of course, has to be very ginger. 1210 01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 1: They're like, he fell, but he's totally fine. Everything's the 1211 01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: scraper Dave Portnoy, which I thought was particularly hilarious with 1212 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: the amount of bike apologists coming out of the woodwork 1213 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,240 Speaker 1: to defend Biden, saying, falling on your skull happens all 1214 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 1: the time. You'd think they'd ban bicycles in this country. 1215 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: People out here making it seem like bike riding is 1216 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 1: more dangerous than swimming with sharks. Look, just be honest 1217 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: with people, That's all anybody wants. Everybody seeing is actually 1218 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: more dangerous than swimming. Actually, I bet there are way more. 1219 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they're definitely way more bike deaths than there are. 1220 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 1: So many sharks, not many, not many. So actually I 1221 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: think it is more dangerous. We should work to have 1222 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: a society where bike lanes are more protected and where 1223 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: people can bike more safely. But it is actually, but bikers. 1224 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: That also means that you can't be annoying and just 1225 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: cut people off for no reason. I'm not just speaking 1226 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: out of turn here and watching it. I'm pro biker, 1227 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean generally, but sometimes they're really annoying. Okay, let's 1228 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,640 Speaker 1: move on. Okay, this is very serious story here with 1229 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: regards to Julian Massange, and I think it's always important 1230 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: to remind us of the context in the backstory here. 1231 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Of course, as Songe had to Wiki leaks, they have 1232 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: released information that was very uncomfortable and damning in certain 1233 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: circumstances about both Republicans Georgia B. Bush in particular and 1234 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Democrats Hillary Clinton in particular in the US context, but 1235 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: they are not just a US focused organization. They have 1236 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: released embarrassing information about almost every country on the planet. 1237 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: The Obama administration hated Julian Assange, hated wiki leaks, wanted 1238 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 1: to persecute him, wanted to prosecute him, and his Department 1239 01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: of Justice said, you can't do it without also criminalizing 1240 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: the act of journalism and publishers like The New York Times. 1241 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: Trump administration comes in and after considering assassination plots, they 1242 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: decide to go with the more moderate approach of let's 1243 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: indetem and let's prosecute him under really a quite novel 1244 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: legal interpretation, which really, I mean, this is truly an 1245 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 1: attack on journalists, on publishers. If you criminalize Assigne, you 1246 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: are effectively criminalizing the act of journalism. Biden administration comes 1247 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 1: in and decides to continue that same prosecution. So that's 1248 01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: where we are today. Julian is in a prison in 1249 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: the UK and he has been going through a series 1250 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:47,240 Speaker 1: of legal battles to try to prevent being extradited to 1251 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: the United States, where he would face trial. They experienced 1252 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: the latest step back just last week. Let's go ahead 1253 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 1: and put this up on the screen. I have to 1254 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 1: tell you guys, I do not understand the UK court system. 1255 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,480 Speaker 1: This is confuted using as all hell to me. But 1256 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm just going to read you from this article. The 1257 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: headline is UK government orders the extradition of Julian Assange 1258 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: to the US. But that's not the end of the matter. 1259 01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:14,640 Speaker 1: So on June seventeenth, UK Home Secretary Pretty Patel issued 1260 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: a statement confirming that she had approved the US government's 1261 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: request to extradite Julian Assange, the Australian founder of Wiki Leaks, 1262 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: faces eighteen criminal charges of computer misuse and espionage. That 1263 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: decision means Assange is one step closer to extradition, but 1264 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: has not yet reached the final stage in what has 1265 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: been a years long process. Patel's decision follows a March 1266 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: decision to deny leave to appeal by the UK Supreme Court, 1267 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: affirming the High Court decision that accepted assurances provided by 1268 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: the US government and included there were no remaining legal 1269 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: bars to Assange's extradition, But as they point out in 1270 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: the article, there are additional appeals that Assange can ultimately 1271 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: pursue here, and WikiLeaks has already announced that they will 1272 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 1: in fact appeal the Home Secretary's decision in UK courts. 1273 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: He can appeal on an issue of law or of fact, 1274 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 1: but has to get leave, has to get permission of 1275 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 1: the High Court in order to launch that appeal. They 1276 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: do expect that this appeal will include some new information, 1277 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 1: including my aforementioned reports of plots to assassinate Assange. There 1278 01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: are also some legal issues, including whether or not these 1279 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: charges were political offenses that may be considered that haven't 1280 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 1: exactly been considered in the past. And then even if 1281 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: those appeals are exhausted, there is still one other potential 1282 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,920 Speaker 1: place that they could go, which is to the European 1283 01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Court of Human Rights, where Assange could take a human 1284 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:44,120 Speaker 1: rights action and try to ban this extradition as well. 1285 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 1: One other wild card in here is you know, Assange 1286 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: is an Australian citizen. Australian's been kind of hands off 1287 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: as to what they want to do here, but they 1288 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,440 Speaker 1: do have a new Prime Minister in Australia who's from 1289 01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the Labor Party, Albanissee, and he's been more pro assigned 1290 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,919 Speaker 1: and so does he kind of get involved here. Hard 1291 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: to say hasn't happened yet, but we'll see. I think 1292 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: that's the actually a wild card which may have the 1293 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 1: most amount of success given that he is a citizen. 1294 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 1: And they point to there has been an instance where 1295 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: there was an Australian citizen imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay who 1296 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,400 Speaker 1: actually was brought back by Australia after consular pressure by 1297 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 1: Australia on the United States. So that is not without 1298 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 1: precedent politically, very interesting to see who is speaking out 1299 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,120 Speaker 1: against this real horseshoe here. This is horseshoe in particular. 1300 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Let's brow us on the screen from Marjorie Taylor Green. 1301 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: If we really care about the First Amendment, we should 1302 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: care about Julian assange. Freedom of the press is the 1303 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,360 Speaker 1: protection of the ability to expose the truth and publish it. 1304 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: This should always be protected, and this freedom should always 1305 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 1: be handled with the most respect. If they are upset 1306 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 1: over the Koshogi killing, they should be upset over Julian massage. 1307 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: Is the American press afraid to speak out on behalf 1308 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: of the US tradition of Julian massage? Is it because 1309 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: it's not a government prosecution or an attack on a journalist, 1310 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 1: but yet our own. The ruling regime in America persecutes 1311 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: their enemies in order to strike fear and anyone who 1312 01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 1: dares exposed corruption and stand up against it. What happens 1313 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: when everyone becomes too afraid to tell the truth and 1314 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: publish it. Silence will protect evil? Wow, alongside one of 1315 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: her House colleagues, ilhan Omar, let's know this on the screen. 1316 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 1: Here's where she goh has and said the prosecution of 1317 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: Assange is still indefensible. She's quote tweeting one of her 1318 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,559 Speaker 1: previous clips that she made in December of twenty twenty one, 1319 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,479 Speaker 1: where she clipped out maybe Hassen making the case for 1320 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:34,280 Speaker 1: why the prosecution of Assange is indefensible. This makes them 1321 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: two of the most high profile members of the US 1322 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 1: government who have spoken out on behalf of Assange. I 1323 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,839 Speaker 1: mean people should for people, don't forget like in the Senate. 1324 01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: I believe not even Ran Paul has spoken on behalf 1325 01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: or at least tried to get a pardon for Julian Assange. 1326 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: She did try for Edward Snowden. The politics of this 1327 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 1: were very dicey, and frankly, most people were afraid of 1328 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: crossing the CIA and the intelligence community. After in two 1329 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,000 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, team they branded Wiki leaks like a 1330 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 1: foreign intelligence association. So people in Washington know that if 1331 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,520 Speaker 1: you speak out on behalf, you could have some serious 1332 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,400 Speaker 1: problems in terms of what you want and push back 1333 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: against you by the national security state. So it is 1334 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: actually genuinely courageous for two members of Congress to do this, 1335 01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: because it's extraordinarily uncommon. I guess what I want to 1336 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 1: see is, Okay, I do appreciate them saying the right things, 1337 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: but are you going to pressure the people in your 1338 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: own party to take action? If you're MTG, what are 1339 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,400 Speaker 1: you going to say to Donald Trump, like he's the 1340 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 1: one who started the prosecution here? If you're ill han Omar, 1341 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: you know, do you have any leverage within the Biden 1342 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: administration that you can use to actually press the case here? 1343 01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 1: So while I appreciate the words, these are also people 1344 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 1: who are in positions of power and have influential friends 1345 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: who might be in a position to do more than 1346 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 1: just words. Right, and Trump didn't actually part in Julian 1347 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,679 Speaker 1: Assange when he had the chance back in twenty twenty, 1348 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: he was asked who his administration started the prosecution, I 1349 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,160 Speaker 1: mean yeah, and then he and decided not to pardon him. 1350 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 1: And Biden is continuing that Trump era prosecution rather than 1351 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,799 Speaker 1: going back to what Obama had said and saying, listen, 1352 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,880 Speaker 1: we can't go after this guy, right. And you even 1353 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,880 Speaker 1: remember there was that Congressman Dana Roherbacher who tried as well. Yeah, 1354 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 1: in California. I think he even met with when he 1355 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,920 Speaker 1: was in the embassy. But anyway, he also tried in 1356 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 1: order to get a pardon in Trump at the end 1357 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,960 Speaker 1: of the day refused to do so. Biden continuing the prosecution. 1358 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 1: The DOJ under Biden has said repeatedly that they're pro 1359 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: press freedom and all of this stuff, but in general, 1360 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,360 Speaker 1: the Merrick Garland DOJ has taken on a pretty hawkish 1361 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 1: prosecutorial tone towards any descent, be it like domestic and 1362 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: towards as songs as well. So it's a troubling thing 1363 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 1: for the security services to set that precedent. We have 1364 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,080 Speaker 1: a clip here of Asane's wife speaking out on his condition. 1365 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a lesson Judy enough. Soone's wife, Stella is 1366 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 1: with me here in the studio. What's is his states 1367 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: of mind? What is his health? Because it has been 1368 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: suggested that if he will to be extradited, he could 1369 01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: take his own line. Well, his health is deteriorating by 1370 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 1: the day. He's been in Belmart's Prison for over three years. 1371 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 1: He's not serving a sentence. He's just there at the 1372 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: behest of the US government who wants to extradite him 1373 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,200 Speaker 1: to the United States to serve a life sentence. He's struggling. 1374 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,120 Speaker 1: Every day is a struggle. In October, he had a 1375 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:28,840 Speaker 1: mini stroke. He's going through extremely stressful situations. Last night 1376 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: I spoke to him and he had extreme anxiety. He 1377 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,719 Speaker 1: hadn't slept all night when I spoke to him today, 1378 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: and after the decision came down, they took him to 1379 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a bare cell and he's going to be there until Monday, 1380 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: and STRIP searched him. It's easy to forget, you know, 1381 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the principle and the attack on journalism is 1382 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 1: extraordinarily important. But this is a human being with a 1383 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,240 Speaker 1: family whose life has been destroyed and put in jeopardy. 1384 01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: I mean, suffered a stroke, as Stella said, is there 1385 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:03,799 Speaker 1: and it's devastating what has been done to him ultimately, 1386 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of concern right now about the 1387 01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 1: future of democracy in this country. And I think if 1388 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,080 Speaker 1: you really care about such things, obviously free press essential 1389 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 1: to the functioning of the democracy. And this is the 1390 01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:21,840 Speaker 1: most direct attack on free press that is you know 1391 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,680 Speaker 1: that is ongoing in this country right now. It's just 1392 01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: a terrible precedent set. It would criminalize a lot of 1393 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 1: acts of journalism. It's the last thing we need in 1394 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: this country when we're in the middle of such fraud times. 1395 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: So there we go. Okay. At the same time, we 1396 01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: had a viral moment Crystal schooling some people on the 1397 01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,960 Speaker 1: Bill Maher Real Time experience. Do you want to describe 1398 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: it for people before we throw to the clip. Yeah, So, 1399 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,120 Speaker 1: as you guys probably know, I flew onto La over 1400 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: the weekend and I went on real time with Bill Maher. 1401 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,719 Speaker 1: It's such a it's I don't know why that stresses 1402 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 1: me out. It's a very different advice. Yeah, there's audience, 1403 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,200 Speaker 1: and you fly all the way out there and do it, 1404 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 1: and you know that you got to be super super 1405 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,759 Speaker 1: punchy to get your points in because yeah, and we're 1406 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: and you know it's also going to be combative and confrontational, 1407 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: which stresses me out too. And we're so used to 1408 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: having the time and space to talk, to talk and 1409 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: go down any avenue we want and think out loud 1410 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 1: and kind of like you know, and have things taken 1411 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: in good faith and all those things, and like this 1412 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:25,840 Speaker 1: you got to be you gotta be on and on us. 1413 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 1: So I was extremely stressed out going into this. But ultimately, 1414 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, we talked some about January sixth, and that 1415 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 1: conversation was fine. You know, I wanted to talk about 1416 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,519 Speaker 1: some of the more underlying issues because that's what we do, 1417 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,000 Speaker 1: and that wasn't really there wasn't really the time and 1418 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 1: space for that interest. So then we got into inflation. 1419 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: I got very combative, I guess, with the in my mind, 1420 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 1: very simplistic explanation that this is all just about the 1421 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: money that was given to working class people. And the 1422 01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 1: point I wanted to make, which I think is something 1423 01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 1: that you guys are familiar with watching this show, is okay, 1424 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 1: we can talk about that, and I'm not dishonest enough 1425 01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 1: to say that that has enoughing to do with the 1426 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: inflation we're facing, but we just completely ignore the trillions 1427 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: of dollars that went to the top that helped to 1428 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: fuel inflation. Somehow, that's fine. But God forbid, you get 1429 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 1: a STIMMI check in your bank account. So that was 1430 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,360 Speaker 1: the point I was trying to make. And that was 1431 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 1: also the moment that has gone now at this point 1432 01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: actually super viral. So let's take a look at that. Well, 1433 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean, part of this inflationary problem is because we 1434 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 1: put too much money into the economy. There's way too 1435 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 1: much government spending, and that's why we have inflation. So 1436 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,600 Speaker 1: that's a large part of that. It's just basic economics. 1437 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: And that's basic economics. We had a thing called a pandemic. 1438 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 1: We had a supply chain crises, and oh, by the way, 1439 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: that act like the only reason because people got a 1440 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: little bit of money and then a little bit of money, 1441 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,120 Speaker 1: they got more than we spent in World War Two. 1442 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: So you don't act like, hold on, don't act like 1443 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 1: you said, don't act don't act like. We had to 1444 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: react to the pandemic exactly the way we did. We hacked, 1445 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 1: we had to spend six oka. But how about the 1446 01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 1: trillions that the Federal Reserve shot at Wall Street. For 1447 01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: some reason, people don't get upset about that fueled the 1448 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,200 Speaker 1: trillions of dollars the Federal Reserve shot at Wall Street 1449 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,479 Speaker 1: to that stopped the stock market. In the bond market, 1450 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 1: No one gets upset about that, even though that was 1451 01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,519 Speaker 1: a massive wall street. Are we talking about that. We're 1452 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,000 Speaker 1: talking about buying assets, buying stocks, buying bonds, buying treasury 1453 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: bills so that they expand the balance sheet. This is 1454 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: during the crisis, the coronavirus crisis, when the stock market crashed, 1455 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: that is what the Fed did. They went into action. 1456 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: They shot, but the stocklers didn't crashing down. It crashed 1457 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 1: and the Fed came in and backstopped it. That's what happened. No, 1458 01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,479 Speaker 1: it crashed, Go back and look at it. It sell 1459 01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 1: off a cliff. Treasury bond market stopped functioning, and the 1460 01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 1: Fed took extraordinary action. It's never taken in history. Somehow 1461 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 1: one gets as someone. Somehow nobody gets upset about the 1462 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: rich people who got tons of money and tons of support, 1463 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,960 Speaker 1: way more than working class people did. But oh my god, 1464 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: people were able to feed their kids and they had 1465 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of money in their bank accounts. It 1466 01:15:58,080 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 1: was the worst thing in the world. That is once 1467 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 1: more a part of the inflation story and is, by 1468 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,439 Speaker 1: the way, not the only thing that we can deal 1469 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 1: with to get out of this mess. Well guess, but 1470 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 1: gas prices we can largely attribute to an administration that's 1471 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 1: been waging war on the fossil fuel industry. That's ridiculous, 1472 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 1: more than everybody. I mean, that's US production. Okay, US 1473 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,679 Speaker 1: production is up, it will be at record levels next year. 1474 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: The fossil fuel companies themselves are flushed with cash, but 1475 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 1: will not invest in new drilling because they would rather 1476 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 1: give it to their shareholders. That's the truth. So there's 1477 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot going on. It is what the stock market 1478 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 1: crash in March twenty twenty, like, what what are you 1479 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: talking about? Well, I actually I get why. You might 1480 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 1: have forgotten, because the FED left into action. But that 1481 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 1: was such a seminal moment that that really determined our 1482 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,679 Speaker 1: trajectory everywhere sent because remember the politicians they were actually 1483 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 1: it was unclear that they were going to do much 1484 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:57,120 Speaker 1: of anything for anyone at the time. Remember we were going, 1485 01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we were beside ourselves, oh my, they may 1486 01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,639 Speaker 1: not at all. And then once the market crashed, that's 1487 01:17:04,720 --> 01:17:07,360 Speaker 1: when they were like, ah shit, we got to do something. 1488 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,360 Speaker 1: And of course the overwhelming amount went to the top, 1489 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 1: as it always does, but they had to sweeten the 1490 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 1: deal with some stuff for regular people. Remember, at the time, 1491 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: there were all those stories about senators who sold everything 1492 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,879 Speaker 1: they had, who sold a bunch of their stock before 1493 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,800 Speaker 1: the crash so they could avoid the fallout from them. 1494 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 1: So the crash ultimately was very short exactly because of 1495 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 1: what I tried my best to explain there in a 1496 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: very short period of time, of the extraordinary action that 1497 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 1: the FED ultimately took. And that's why you ended up 1498 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 1: with these dueling headlines of oh my god, the stock 1499 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 1: markets at record levels, but meanwhile unemployment is, you know, 1500 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,880 Speaker 1: also at record levels. The reason you had that dueling 1501 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,960 Speaker 1: reality is because of the fed's actions there, And so 1502 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 1: if you don't understand that history, you're going to have 1503 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 1: a hard time understanding what's unfolding before us. Right now. Yeah, 1504 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,599 Speaker 1: I just think that I don't know how you could 1505 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,479 Speaker 1: have forgot and that crash, I mean eat crash. Even today, 1506 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 1: the headlines are all largest stock market crash since the 1507 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty crash of coronavirus. Actually, I just looked twenty 1508 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty market crash even has its own Wikipedia page. And 1509 01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,440 Speaker 1: actually at the time, there were Black Monday, one Black Thursday, 1510 01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:21,600 Speaker 1: and then there was Black Monday, two, where they specifically 1511 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 1: talk about how on February seventeenth, that's when the Asian 1512 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: markets began to crash as a result of the reports 1513 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 1: coming out not only of China but South Korea and 1514 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,160 Speaker 1: initial lockdown procedures. That's what triggered massive market sell off. 1515 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty leads to the eventual discussion around 1516 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: stimulus checks of lockdowns. April of twenty twenty is when 1517 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,840 Speaker 1: all of this gets solidified into place. By May, it's 1518 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 1: largely forgotten and cheap capital floods the system. But that 1519 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,160 Speaker 1: was a pivotal economic time. I mean, we're going to 1520 01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 1: study that period. Economists are going to study that period 1521 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: for decades. That is equivalent to quantitative easing post Great Recession, 1522 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: equivalent to Great Depression type mon cary policy. And yeah, 1523 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: like you said, I guess I could forgive Bill for 1524 01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 1: not remembering it, but even know, yeah, I mean, with 1525 01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,760 Speaker 1: great respect to Jamie Kirchik and all of that, you know, 1526 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,439 Speaker 1: this is the issue with not understanding markets, both oil 1527 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: markets and stock markets as to the exact mechanisms. Because 1528 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,719 Speaker 1: if you want to sit there and talk about demand 1529 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:28,519 Speaker 1: inflation based upon stimulus checks and overstimulation. Fine, yeah, we 1530 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 1: can have that conversation, but to what extent is it 1531 01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,280 Speaker 1: part of the current solution? Actually not really. As we 1532 01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 1: pointed out here, the stock market and the demand inflation, 1533 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: that's what is mostly gone. You know, consumer demand as 1534 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,640 Speaker 1: a result of stimulus, checks and savings and all of 1535 01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 1: that has tapered off. The current solution and to what 1536 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:50,639 Speaker 1: we're grappling with is an extraordinarily different and different, different 1537 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: and difficult time that doesn't have a lot to do 1538 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 1: with happened in March of twenty twenty. So it's just 1539 01:19:56,640 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: reminded me discussion, Yeah, and I think it all so 1540 01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,639 Speaker 1: it reminded me where I'm so used to existing in 1541 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 1: this ecosystem. Yeah, it's different. And you know, and I 1542 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: know that you guys who watch regularly, like you're very 1543 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,599 Speaker 1: aware of this history. Can we talk about this stuff 1544 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 1: a lot. We've gone out of our way to really 1545 01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: dig into kind of the workings of the FED this 1546 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: year because it's so central, Like we've really tried to 1547 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,200 Speaker 1: challenge ourselves to understand the on a deeper level, what's 1548 01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 1: happening in the oil markets, what's happening with inflation, what 1549 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 1: some potential solutions are, you know, what the truth is 1550 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,479 Speaker 1: and what the talking points from both sides. We were 1551 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,679 Speaker 1: not perfect. We really try to understand in depth what's 1552 01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: happening here. But you know, cable news format just doesn't 1553 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,760 Speaker 1: allow for that. No, it does not allow for that. 1554 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: Because how long was that segment? Like seven minutes that 1555 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 1: on YouTube all its head was so I don't even know. 1556 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 1: I think the entire panel discussion they say I was 1557 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,479 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. It felt like it was nothing. And we 1558 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,880 Speaker 1: covered you know, three or four different topics within that 1559 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,000 Speaker 1: time period. So and you got you know, obviously a 1560 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,839 Speaker 1: lot of crosstalk and getting cut off and all that stuff. 1561 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:05,680 Speaker 1: So to try to make a nuanced point and you know, 1562 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 1: explain the trajectory of how we got here and all 1563 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,760 Speaker 1: these pieces that are going on, it's just, you know, 1564 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,479 Speaker 1: and that's on real time. You have way more space 1565 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 1: than you do in like a cable news thgment. Yeah, 1566 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 1: right to cable. So that's why the American people are 1567 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,360 Speaker 1: being fed a very non nutritious diet in terms of 1568 01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:25,800 Speaker 1: understanding these seminal moments that really have been instrumental in 1569 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: getting us to where we are and determining where we're 1570 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,080 Speaker 1: going to go next and that that market crash and 1571 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 1: the response to it was an absolutely crucial one. So listen, 1572 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 1: I had a great experience. I'm really grateful for them 1573 01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 1: having me on and giving me the ability to, you know, 1574 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 1: do my best to explain the world as I see 1575 01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: in some of the things that we talk about on 1576 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,679 Speaker 1: this show. So I'm extremely grateful for that. Bill couldn't 1577 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 1: have been nicer. After the fact, they do a little, 1578 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,679 Speaker 1: you know, little like get together on the patio, open 1579 01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,800 Speaker 1: bar whatever, So I got to chat with him a 1580 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: little bit and that was that was really nice as well. 1581 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 1: But I will tell you the other thing that was funny, 1582 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,720 Speaker 1: which I've now I've ever done this to myself. I 1583 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 1: really have never done this to myself before. But I 1584 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,639 Speaker 1: had such a hard time gauging whether I did well 1585 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: and got my points off or not. And so I 1586 01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 1: really and I hate watching myself back. I really should 1587 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 1: have watched myself back because if I did, I wouldn't 1588 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 1: be like, okay I did, I did, Okay, I got 1589 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 1: my points across. But I tortured myself that night like, 1590 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,400 Speaker 1: oh man, I think you like these certain moments in 1591 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 1: I was replaying my you should have said this should 1592 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,639 Speaker 1: have said that maybe came off in a bad way, 1593 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 1: like maybe we're too aggressive. I really really was torturing myself, 1594 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,519 Speaker 1: and I've been thinking about why that is, because I 1595 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:39,680 Speaker 1: really genuinely normally don't do that. Even when I have 1596 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 1: actually performed kind of poorly, I'm usually like, what are 1597 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 1: you gonna do? But I think it's because I really 1598 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 1: did put feel a sense of responsibility to represent us 1599 01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,280 Speaker 1: and represent this community and like the way that we 1600 01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,400 Speaker 1: look at things and try to put that out in 1601 01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,200 Speaker 1: the world a little bit. So I really like I 1602 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:01,439 Speaker 1: felt this pressure to do that, not just like for 1603 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,719 Speaker 1: me to do my bust, but to try to represent 1604 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 1: what we're doing. I totally get what you're saying. I 1605 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,479 Speaker 1: would also be incredibly stressed out because, yeah, like you said, 1606 01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen these people. I know these people 1607 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:11,800 Speaker 1: have known Jamie for a long time. I don't know 1608 01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 1: I don't know Bill, but I do know their worldview andal, 1609 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: and it's so dramatically different than all of us that 1610 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,719 Speaker 1: dealing with it and confronting it on national television. Yeah, 1611 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,479 Speaker 1: which is I mean, look, I'm not gonna say it's 1612 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:25,680 Speaker 1: a forte because you came up more cables, so you're 1613 01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,640 Speaker 1: used to more of the time. But not having the 1614 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,320 Speaker 1: ability to explain myself and have to hit the talking 1615 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: points is the thing I hated most always about cable 1616 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 1: and having to return to that after having the freedom 1617 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,920 Speaker 1: here of talking in the way that we do would 1618 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,479 Speaker 1: be very difficult, and I don't think there would be 1619 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 1: another way to do it than the way you did, 1620 01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 1: which is to have to be combative. I mean, to 1621 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,599 Speaker 1: the extent that we ever cut things off on this show, 1622 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 1: it's because of studio time, like literally, because we're like, 1623 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,080 Speaker 1: we have to get out of here in order to 1624 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 1: produce our show on time. That's it. It's not because 1625 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,960 Speaker 1: you know, I often feel that they restrict it artificially 1626 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,080 Speaker 1: in order to induce these results. I really do think 1627 01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,599 Speaker 1: it's yes suboptimal at the best for discussion. The first 1628 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: thing I noticed when I shifted from cable news to 1629 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, YouTube and to independent media is that you 1630 01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,800 Speaker 1: just have so much more space and so much more 1631 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:22,240 Speaker 1: attention from the audience to lay out more complex arguments 1632 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and points. You know, I write a monologue for cable news, 1633 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,800 Speaker 1: it was like I can hit one point, I can 1634 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 1: hit it a few times. That's the best. You're going 1635 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,840 Speaker 1: to do with this Obviously, you guys know how we 1636 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 1: write our monologues, and you know, and we put a 1637 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 1: lot into it. They go in a lot of directions. 1638 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:38,960 Speaker 1: We try to make them, you know, complex and nuance 1639 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,160 Speaker 1: and really try to get at whatever it is that 1640 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,160 Speaker 1: we're trying to explain. So in any case, I think 1641 01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 1: it was used judging by the reaction, which has been extraordinary, 1642 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I think it was useful to go on, even though 1643 01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:55,200 Speaker 1: it really stressed me out. But I am also extremely 1644 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 1: extremely grateful for the time and the space and the 1645 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,639 Speaker 1: attention from you guys, and the you know and what 1646 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: you guys. What you guys give back to us also 1647 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 1: allows us to kind of bring our best to the show. 1648 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:11,640 Speaker 1: So thank you for that. I agree, Crystal Ple. You 1649 01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,080 Speaker 1: take a look at well the bread riots have arrived. 1650 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:17,920 Speaker 1: A state of emergency has been declared in Ecuador, where 1651 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 1: a general strike spark by mass inflation enters its second week. 1652 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,799 Speaker 1: The country's president, Germo Lasso, a conservative business man elected 1653 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,880 Speaker 1: just last year, imposed a decree on Friday after mass 1654 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 1: protests led by the country's indigenous communities blocked roads, burned tires, 1655 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,559 Speaker 1: and demanded price phrases and loan forgiveness. Not only do 1656 01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 1: these protesters want fuel prices lowered and frozen, but they 1657 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:43,280 Speaker 1: also want the same for essential goods and services. We're 1658 01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 1: literally starving today. There is no work farm products. I minimized. 1659 01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,479 Speaker 1: There is no proper suplet from the government. With the 1660 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:54,000 Speaker 1: rise and fuel prices, everything is more expensive. The government 1661 01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 1: doesn't hear us. Does it hear the poorformers? No, it doesn't. 1662 01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,280 Speaker 1: Does it know the price of fertilizers? No? And our 1663 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,600 Speaker 1: products are already cheap. How we going to survive to 1664 01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: feed that with children? So Ecuador's indigenous communities, they overwhelmingly 1665 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: grow that nation's produced, and they've been devastated by rising 1666 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,040 Speaker 1: oil and also rising fertilizer prices. The country's farms are 1667 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,400 Speaker 1: heavily dependent on fertilizer from Russia. So in addition to 1668 01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 1: being hard hit during the coronavirus crisis, Ecuador's now suffering 1669 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 1: with huge spikes in the cost of food production. And 1670 01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 1: they are far from alone. Reuters lists Argentina, Chile, Cyprus, Greece, Guinea, Indonesia, Iran, Kenya, Lebanon, 1671 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: the Palastinian territories, Peru, Sri Lanka, Sudan and Tunisia all 1672 01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 1: as nations where significant protests and unrest have erupted over 1673 01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:38,519 Speaker 1: spiking food and fuel prices just in recent months. So 1674 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,480 Speaker 1: to give you a flavor of that, acorniad routers Cypriat 1675 01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,519 Speaker 1: farmers dump tons of milk and lit bales of hay 1676 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 1: outside the Presdential Palace and the Capitol in ne Koja 1677 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:50,439 Speaker 1: on May eighteenth, in protests at high prices and production issues, 1678 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,479 Speaker 1: Lebanese truck and bus drivers and others blocked roads and 1679 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 1: generated protest against soaring prices. The protesters accused politicians of 1680 01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,759 Speaker 1: failure to address an ongoing economic crisis since twenty nineteen, 1681 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:05,200 Speaker 1: and nationwide protests in Iran have continued since early May 1682 01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,440 Speaker 1: in response to a government decision to cut bread subsidies. 1683 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: Those protests have triggered a brutal government crackdown that has 1684 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,880 Speaker 1: been harsh enough to trigger alarm among UN officials. Of course, 1685 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,920 Speaker 1: the specifics are different in every country, but the overall 1686 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:23,559 Speaker 1: picture is pretty similar. COVID despair, political dysfunction and escalating 1687 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 1: inequalities provided the tinder and massive inflation caused by supply 1688 01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,120 Speaker 1: chain crises, the War in Ukraine and the West response 1689 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 1: the War in Ukraine lit the match. As grain prices 1690 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,320 Speaker 1: rise and hunger spreads, we should expect even more instability. 1691 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,519 Speaker 1: The Horn of Africa, the Middle East, and North Africa 1692 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 1: have suffered the most brutal consequences from a combination of 1693 01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,919 Speaker 1: climate crisis, Russia's war in Ukraine, and again are response 1694 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 1: to that war, Western sanctions on Russian banks have made 1695 01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,720 Speaker 1: it impossible for countries dependent on their grain and their 1696 01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,120 Speaker 1: fertilizer to buy either of those things. As a result, 1697 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,599 Speaker 1: fifty million people are facing famine seven hundred and fifty 1698 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,840 Speaker 1: thousand already in what is described as catastrophe. Many of 1699 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,479 Speaker 1: these are in Afghanistan because we stole our country central 1700 01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,040 Speaker 1: bank reserves, and in Yemen, where our friends Sosaudi's have 1701 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,400 Speaker 1: used US made weapons to cause the worst humanitarian crisis 1702 01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: on the planet. Our guest today, Peter's Iihan, has been 1703 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,000 Speaker 1: among those who are sounding the alarm warning that we 1704 01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: are facing a massive crisis with likely unrest. He actually 1705 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: predicts this current food crisis will grow to three to 1706 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,000 Speaker 1: four times worse than the crisis that triggered the Arab Spring. 1707 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 1: This is a devastating picture. It's feeding desperation and populas 1708 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 1: discontent around the globe. It's hitting poor, middle class, and 1709 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,280 Speaker 1: wealthy nations alike, and by the way, citizens also expressing 1710 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 1: their outrage at the ballot box. In Colombia, voters toss 1711 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,720 Speaker 1: the dominant elite ideological faction out of power in the 1712 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,519 Speaker 1: first round of voting, opting instead for a second round 1713 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,799 Speaker 1: choice between a leftist former militant radical championing a Bernie 1714 01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,200 Speaker 1: style agenda and a Trumpian businessman known for his tiktoks 1715 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: is inveighing against corruption while being under investigation for corruption 1716 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 1: and his seeming lack of knowledge about really much of anything. 1717 01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:04,040 Speaker 1: And yesterday, in a true stunner, the leftist Gustavo Petro 1718 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 1: pulled off the win that marks the first time in 1719 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,519 Speaker 1: history that that nation will have a left wing president. 1720 01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,639 Speaker 1: It is a full on rejection of decades of Columbian 1721 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: politics and sets up some pretty interesting clashes with the 1722 01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: good old US of A over drug policy and trade, 1723 01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,519 Speaker 1: among other things. Now, with Lula holding a commanding leading 1724 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,320 Speaker 1: polls in Brazil, the left has really been cleaning up lately. 1725 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 1: In Latin America. Okay, let's move over to France. Center 1726 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 1: right neoliberal Emmanuel Macron was just blocked from a majority 1727 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 1: in parliamentary elections, the first time that the president has 1728 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 1: failed to secure an outright majority in that country in 1729 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 1: the lower house in twenty years. Blocking his path was 1730 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 1: a left wing coalition including Socialist, Greeed and communist parties. 1731 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 1: This alliance brought the French left back for the dead 1732 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,200 Speaker 1: to secure the second largest number of seats of any group. 1733 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 1: But the real surprise came from Marine La Penn's far 1734 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 1: right party National Front. They went from the measly eight 1735 01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,280 Speaker 1: seats in twenty seventeen to a record breaking run roughly 1736 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:05,160 Speaker 1: ninety seats this year, outperforming polls and shocking observers. This 1737 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,720 Speaker 1: is by far their best performance. So a left and 1738 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,120 Speaker 1: right surge swamped the center right, making life much more 1739 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,479 Speaker 1: difficult for Macron and for his completely terrible plans to 1740 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 1: lift the retirement age. But the populist revolt it really 1741 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 1: is a global phenomenon. As I covered previously, in Australia, 1742 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,559 Speaker 1: might recall, voters tossed out a conservative government in favor 1743 01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 1: of the Labor Party, but perhaps even more significant, record 1744 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 1: numbers voted for independent candidates, handing the Green Party. They're 1745 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 1: best showing in that country in history. Now Here in 1746 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,479 Speaker 1: the US, our deep discontent will surely translate into a 1747 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:41,080 Speaker 1: major rejection of the governing Democratic neoliberals this fall. But 1748 01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 1: since our two party system leaves us with a weak 1749 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,759 Speaker 1: choice between two fundamentally inadequate parties devoted to the economic 1750 01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 1: model of the past, the shift in power is really 1751 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:53,679 Speaker 1: unlikely to lead to real voter satisfaction. What comes next? 1752 01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,840 Speaker 1: Anyone's guess. There is no chance the fomenting global tumult 1753 01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:02,400 Speaker 1: is going to leave us unscathed. Sober number of countries, 1754 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 1: very interesting results. I mean, you have these and if 1755 01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,240 Speaker 1: you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become 1756 01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 1: a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot Com. All right, saga, 1757 01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Well, as you all know, 1758 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,519 Speaker 1: when I'm confused, I turned to history to try and 1759 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,840 Speaker 1: remind us of what our times might look like. It's 1760 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:23,599 Speaker 1: never really a perfect replica. Again, teach us always a lot. 1761 01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Only months after Biden was elected, there were Republicans calling 1762 01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,439 Speaker 1: him the next Jimmy Carter, and I actually even pushed 1763 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:30,680 Speaker 1: back on that. At the time, inflation wasn't nearly at 1764 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,040 Speaker 1: the highs that we see today. Gas was expensive, yes, 1765 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 1: but it wasn't astronomically expensive. Russia had not yet invaded 1766 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 1: a smaller nation in pursuit of its empire goals, and Biden, 1767 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 1: while incompetent from the beginning, had not as much time 1768 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to prove it to all of us. But I am 1769 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,880 Speaker 1: genuinely sad to say today, especially after reading Jonathan Alter's 1770 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 1: biography of Jimmy Carter, which came out last year, that 1771 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Biden really is Jimmy Carter, except honestly worse in many respects. 1772 01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,400 Speaker 1: Let's review just the circumstances. First and foremost is a 1773 01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 1: fascinating history of Biden. I did not know. In nineteen 1774 01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:06,599 Speaker 1: seventy six, a spirited Democratic primary was underway to determine 1775 01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:10,000 Speaker 1: who would challenge Gerald Ford. The country was emerging from 1776 01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,559 Speaker 1: the wounds of Watergate. McGovern was a total disaster. Nobody 1777 01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,720 Speaker 1: knew which Democrat to turned to. The Washington establishment was 1778 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,760 Speaker 1: pushing various senators and others, but a peanut farming first 1779 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: first term governor of Georgia named Jimmy Carter decided to run. 1780 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 1: Nobody supported him, except for one young senator who said 1781 01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 1: they needed new leadership in the party. That senator was 1782 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 1: Joseph R. Biden, thirty three years old at the time, 1783 01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:37,639 Speaker 1: and became the first sitting politician to endorse Carter by 1784 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,959 Speaker 1: saying that since he wasn't old enough to be president, 1785 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,599 Speaker 1: he would at least then endorse Carter himself. His blinding 1786 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,799 Speaker 1: ambition and arrogance was evident even then. But what strikes 1787 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:48,840 Speaker 1: me is how much Biden has become the heir to 1788 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. Let's take a look at the conditions and 1789 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:54,320 Speaker 1: their similarities. Starting with the economy. Right now, the US 1790 01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 1: consumer sentiment index is at the lowest point since they 1791 01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: began measuring in the nineteen fifties, coming at fifty point two. 1792 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,960 Speaker 1: The last time that conditions were that low you guessed it, 1793 01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,200 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine and the early nineteen eighties, right at 1794 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,840 Speaker 1: the natire of Jimmy Carter's presidency. Inflation is similar, with 1795 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:14,240 Speaker 1: the highest prices today seen since nineteen seventy nine, exactly 1796 01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,360 Speaker 1: when Jimmy Carter was president. Crude oil experienced a similar 1797 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,920 Speaker 1: supply shock under Jimmy Carter following the Iranian Revolution. Iran 1798 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 1: at the time was the second largest producer of oil 1799 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,919 Speaker 1: in the world, and during the hostage crisis, we instituted 1800 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,840 Speaker 1: an embargo which caused massive pain at the pump here 1801 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,759 Speaker 1: in the United States. It got so bad gas lines 1802 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,840 Speaker 1: and rationing happening. Our way of avoiding that today is 1803 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:36,840 Speaker 1: just just lift all controls and actually left the price 1804 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 1: sk high as goes possible, the theory being if price 1805 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,519 Speaker 1: gets high enough, people won't drive. What I'm struck though, by, 1806 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,559 Speaker 1: is how similar both Biden are in terms of how 1807 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,799 Speaker 1: they got elected and who got them there. Nobody really 1808 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 1: loved Jimmy Carter. In nineteen seventy six, Carter won the 1809 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,559 Speaker 1: Democratic nomination by outlasting everyone else and by a definitely 1810 01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,520 Speaker 1: playing up his squeakly clean image in the wake of Watergate. 1811 01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,679 Speaker 1: He cobbled together in votes to actually win the primary, 1812 01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 1: but his core problem was that the same one that 1813 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:08,280 Speaker 1: dogs Joe Biden. There was no core Carter constituency. Most 1814 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,080 Speaker 1: people shrug their shoulders and like, yeah, whatever, he's fine enough, 1815 01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,920 Speaker 1: I guess better than the other guys. He was a 1816 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,720 Speaker 1: default choice more than an affirmative one, one where Democrats 1817 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,160 Speaker 1: thought he was fine but didn't really love him at all. 1818 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,559 Speaker 1: Now to the general electorate, he was the same. Carter 1819 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,320 Speaker 1: was a choice to rebuke Gerald Ford and the failures 1820 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,840 Speaker 1: of the Nixon administration Postwatergate far more than it was 1821 01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:33,000 Speaker 1: a choice of Jimmy Carter. He was the anti choice, 1822 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,599 Speaker 1: just as Biden was the anti choice to Trump. Now, 1823 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,920 Speaker 1: the problem politically for the two of them is that 1824 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 1: when you're the anti choice and then you actually have 1825 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,599 Speaker 1: to run things, then you're responsible and people actually get 1826 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 1: to get a good look at you. Carter ultimately fel 1827 01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,639 Speaker 1: to nearly a twenty percent approval rating as president. That's 1828 01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,639 Speaker 1: the all time low. Right now, Biden is impressively running 1829 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,160 Speaker 1: below where Carter was at that time of his presidency, 1830 01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,080 Speaker 1: but of course he still has some time to catch 1831 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 1: up to him. The problem that dogged Carter and dog's 1832 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,280 Speaker 1: Biden is the same. Nobody really liked him that much. 1833 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Beyond the circumstances of even the political conditions, what really 1834 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,760 Speaker 1: unites the two men is their inability to meet the 1835 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,960 Speaker 1: moment and inspire creative thinking. Consider this. I read through 1836 01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:18,000 Speaker 1: the entire Jimmy Carter crisis of confidence speech where he 1837 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,800 Speaker 1: laid out his plan in nineteen seventy nine to lower 1838 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:23,599 Speaker 1: gas prices and to ease the pain of the American people. 1839 01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 1: Here's what he came up with. Number One, the same 1840 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,400 Speaker 1: reason that we had. The problem in nineteen seventy nine 1841 01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 1: was that Americans had lost their way and they were 1842 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 1: consuming too much stuff. That's what he led with. He 1843 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 1: then announced a plan, and I'm not kidding you, to 1844 01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:38,760 Speaker 1: raise the price of oil so that people would use 1845 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,320 Speaker 1: less of it. And at the same time Carter raised 1846 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,320 Speaker 1: prices at the pump. He extolled the virtues of quote 1847 01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 1: alternative sources of energy like quote gas, a haul, and 1848 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 1: solar power. To bolster his ambitious plan, Carter proposed a 1849 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,640 Speaker 1: windfall tax on oil companies. Now your ears must be 1850 01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 1: ringing because all three of those things are what the 1851 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,280 Speaker 1: Biden administration is trying to do today. It was rejected 1852 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,439 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, and it should be rejected today 1853 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:08,000 Speaker 1: because it's not actually a feasible plan for reasons that 1854 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 1: we've gone over here at nauseum. And the reason I 1855 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,760 Speaker 1: think Biden is worse than Carter is look to be fair, 1856 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: Carter was at least facing novel problems that had not 1857 01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,960 Speaker 1: been seen in his lifetime. That is not an excuse 1858 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,360 Speaker 1: that Biden has, and he should have still have met 1859 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 1: the moment, certainly. But Biden is so old. He was 1860 01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:30,040 Speaker 1: actually a sitting US senator and involved at the time 1861 01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: of the seventy nine crisis. He probably watched that speech 1862 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:38,160 Speaker 1: and he has not updated policy since then. That's a 1863 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,000 Speaker 1: failure that makes him worse. It's just one of the 1864 01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:45,240 Speaker 1: many tiny examples to show Biden's timidity to actually confront problems, 1865 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,160 Speaker 1: to think differently. The thing about Carter is that, dislike 1866 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,760 Speaker 1: with Biden, many events were out of his control. Joe 1867 01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,559 Speaker 1: Biden is not solely responsible for inflation, he is not 1868 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,759 Speaker 1: solely responsible for gas crisis, and he didn't force Putin 1869 01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,720 Speaker 1: to invade Russia, just like Carter didn't force the Ayatola 1870 01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,679 Speaker 1: to take over Iran, or force or Opak to boycott 1871 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,880 Speaker 1: the US, or forced Russia to invade Afghanistan. What made 1872 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 1: Carter a failure was his inability to react in kind 1873 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:13,479 Speaker 1: to these crises by giving the American people a plan 1874 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:17,639 Speaker 1: and confidence anything that he might actually do something about it, 1875 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:20,360 Speaker 1: or at the very least try to do something for 1876 01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,600 Speaker 1: people's lives. After eighteen months, we can confidently say we 1877 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,719 Speaker 1: are worse off than the day that Joe Biden took office. 1878 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,680 Speaker 1: And just like in nineteen seventy nine, waiting in the 1879 01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 1: wings is a candidate that said, make America great Again, 1880 01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 1: who ended up winning one of the biggest landslides in 1881 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:41,720 Speaker 1: American history. The inevitability of that outcome just seems more 1882 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,120 Speaker 1: and more likely every day that passes. Isn't just crazy 1883 01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,360 Speaker 1: how much history repeats itself. And if you want to 1884 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,960 Speaker 1: hear my reaction to Cyber's monologue, become a premium subscriber 1885 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:56,760 Speaker 1: today at Breakingpoints dot Com. Joining us now again. Friend 1886 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 1: of the show, Peter Zion. He's the author of the 1887 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:00,840 Speaker 1: book Let's throw this up there on the screen. The 1888 01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,600 Speaker 1: End of the World is just beginning. You can go 1889 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:06,280 Speaker 1: out and buy it right now on the shelves. Peter. 1890 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 1: I've come to really appreciate your analysis, and one of 1891 01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:11,880 Speaker 1: the things that we wanted to expand on with you 1892 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,600 Speaker 1: is something that you and I had talked about previously, 1893 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,960 Speaker 1: which is globalization and inflation, about how part of the 1894 01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,200 Speaker 1: reason why we've had low inflation over the last thirty 1895 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,479 Speaker 1: years is actually a result of global conditions which are 1896 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:26,840 Speaker 1: coming to an end, which you write about in your book, 1897 01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,160 Speaker 1: and I'd love for you to be able to expand 1898 01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:31,479 Speaker 1: on that for our Breaking Points audience. Yeah, of course, 1899 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,040 Speaker 1: So in the world before globalization, so World War two, 1900 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:38,280 Speaker 1: and before there was little trading, or what existed was 1901 01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,559 Speaker 1: basically an imperial government rating the rest of the world 1902 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 1: for markets or for resources. So we had hundreds, really 1903 01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:48,960 Speaker 1: thousands of different separate local economic systems, and you could 1904 01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:52,640 Speaker 1: only source materials from within your own geography, and so 1905 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,280 Speaker 1: if you didn't have oil, you didn't industrialize, if you 1906 01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,840 Speaker 1: can't have food, your population was really low. But globalization 1907 01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,920 Speaker 1: made the world safe for everyone, and so any sort 1908 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:06,680 Speaker 1: of international economic exchange, regardless of what it was, could happen. 1909 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,000 Speaker 1: And the US Navy ensured that it could happen on 1910 01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,680 Speaker 1: the high seas without a military escort. That was the 1911 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,240 Speaker 1: kind of the whole basis of it. And so all 1912 01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,920 Speaker 1: of these little dispart parts started amalgamating, eventually into one 1913 01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:20,800 Speaker 1: total global hole by the time we got to the 1914 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. And when you are in a bigger pool 1915 01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,519 Speaker 1: like that, everyone specializes and everybody adds value. So you 1916 01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:30,519 Speaker 1: get diversification of production, you get greater bulk of production, 1917 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,080 Speaker 1: you get a lower cost of production. And it works 1918 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,520 Speaker 1: in every economic sector, whether it is energy or agriculture 1919 01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 1: or finance. It is that diversification in that volume that 1920 01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,760 Speaker 1: is the world We understand, that's the world we've been 1921 01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 1: in since nineteen ninety and it's the most atypical period 1922 01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 1: in human history. What's going on now, part with the 1923 01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,639 Speaker 1: Ukraine War, part with nationalism, part with terrorists, whether it's 1924 01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,320 Speaker 1: from Biden or from Trump, it all takes us into 1925 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,599 Speaker 1: the same place. It breaks up that global hole. And 1926 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,360 Speaker 1: as you do that, we lose all those synergies and 1927 01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,760 Speaker 1: all those economies of scale, and we feel that as 1928 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:11,320 Speaker 1: shortages and inflation. So what we're going through right now, 1929 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,519 Speaker 1: even if nothing else flays in, this is kind of 1930 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,559 Speaker 1: our new norm for the next several years into we 1931 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,760 Speaker 1: adapt to whatever. So globalization is it like you know, 1932 01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:22,320 Speaker 1: a switch that you flip on or off, or at 1933 01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,719 Speaker 1: least that's not my understanding of it. So how far 1934 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,720 Speaker 1: will we go back to that prior to World War 1935 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:32,799 Speaker 1: two era when you really have much more limited trade? 1936 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,240 Speaker 1: Is this like a twenty percent dial back? Is it 1937 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,360 Speaker 1: a fifty percent dial back? Is it an all the 1938 01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:39,480 Speaker 1: way back? How do you sort of see that landscape? 1939 01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,559 Speaker 1: It really depends where you are and how you feel. 1940 01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,760 Speaker 1: It is going to depend upon what your local geography 1941 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 1: of trades ends up being. So on the positive side, 1942 01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:50,320 Speaker 1: look at North America. So the United States has the 1943 01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:52,839 Speaker 1: best demographic structure in the world, the most stable capital 1944 01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,480 Speaker 1: structure in the world, it's the home of the global currency. 1945 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,280 Speaker 1: Mexico is the best demography in the advanced developing world. 1946 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:01,759 Speaker 1: We've got a first right manufacturing system or the world's 1947 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:06,200 Speaker 1: largest producer of food and of energy products. So even 1948 01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 1: if North America is one hundred percent on its own, 1949 01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:12,639 Speaker 1: we're probably only looking at about a ten to fifteen 1950 01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:19,440 Speaker 1: percent drawback. That's our entire import and export portfolio outside 1951 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,080 Speaker 1: of the rest outside of North America. You know, that's 1952 01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: awkward to adjust to, particularly in manufacturing, but it's totally doable. 1953 01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,760 Speaker 1: Then look at China. Eighty five percent of the energy 1954 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,400 Speaker 1: comes from somewhere else. Ninety percent of the inputs that 1955 01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 1: go into their agriculture sector come from somewhere else. About 1956 01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:38,000 Speaker 1: half of the raw material inputs that go into their 1957 01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:41,639 Speaker 1: manufacturing goods come from somewhere else. The medium and high 1958 01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:45,120 Speaker 1: quality components in that all come from somewhere else, and 1959 01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,600 Speaker 1: their export markets is how they employ their population. So 1960 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 1: if you deglobalize the Chinese economy, you're talking about a 1961 01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: reversion to pre industrial standards of living, and that can 1962 01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,960 Speaker 1: happen surprisingly quickly because all of the inputs that are 1963 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 1: responsible for manufacturing or similar to the ones that are 1964 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:06,640 Speaker 1: responsible for keeping people alive. So if something happens to 1965 01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 1: agricultural or energy markets, that is the end of the 1966 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,040 Speaker 1: People's Republic of China is a significant power. Yeah, and 1967 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,760 Speaker 1: that's I think one of the most provocative and I 1968 01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:18,120 Speaker 1: think interesting points you've been making in your book tour here. 1969 01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,479 Speaker 1: And actually I saw a piece I wanted to ask 1970 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:22,439 Speaker 1: you about just broke this morning. How Russia has now 1971 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 1: become the largest supplier of oil to China given the 1972 01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,639 Speaker 1: discount markets that were happening there. What do you make 1973 01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,840 Speaker 1: of that global realignment, given the fact that you know 1974 01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,679 Speaker 1: they do import so much of their energy, this will 1975 01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:38,519 Speaker 1: backstop the Russian economy. Of course, of what import should 1976 01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,120 Speaker 1: we make of the Russians being able to fill in 1977 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 1: and become the largest supplier of oil even more so 1978 01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:47,679 Speaker 1: than Saudi Arabia to China. Well, there's a short term 1979 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,800 Speaker 1: issue and a longer term issue. The short term issue 1980 01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,840 Speaker 1: is that an absolute terms, China hasn't risen up that much. 1981 01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,000 Speaker 1: Russia was already number two, and the difference between number 1982 01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 1: and two number two and number one were small and 1983 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,000 Speaker 1: they regularly went back and forth, so there's a bit 1984 01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,720 Speaker 1: of a statistical play there. A little bit longer term, 1985 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 1: the crude that comes from Russia to China is not 1986 01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,760 Speaker 1: the normal stuff that you see on international markets. It's 1987 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,439 Speaker 1: all from eastern Siberia, and the Russians don't know how 1988 01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,760 Speaker 1: to operate any of those fields, just beyond them technologically, 1989 01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:22,960 Speaker 1: so all of the production that ends up in China 1990 01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:26,719 Speaker 1: is actually dependent upon Shell and Halliburton and the rest, 1991 01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,559 Speaker 1: and they have now all left Russia. So we're going 1992 01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:35,200 Speaker 1: to get an interesting real world experience on how fast 1993 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,439 Speaker 1: the most technically advanced fields in the world can fall 1994 01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 1: offline because of lack of technical skill. Will that be 1995 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: this year, will be that be next year? I don't know. 1996 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,880 Speaker 1: But this is the end of China's ability to get 1997 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:51,840 Speaker 1: Russian oil, not the beginning. Fascinating. So our basic plan 1998 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,760 Speaker 1: in the US to deal with rising inflation is to 1999 01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,479 Speaker 1: hope the FED you know Jack's op rates and gets 2000 01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:00,280 Speaker 1: this thing under control. Given that they're a lot of 2001 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,280 Speaker 1: traditional method I'm not saying it's not painless, but it 2002 01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:07,080 Speaker 1: is the traditional method. Yes, But given that inflation is 2003 01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,400 Speaker 1: being driven by a lot of things that aren't just 2004 01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, the amount of demand within our economy. How 2005 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,479 Speaker 1: successful do you think that that approach will be this 2006 01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:18,160 Speaker 1: time around? It totally can be successful. What it can 2007 01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:20,559 Speaker 1: be successful without recession, I think is kind of an 2008 01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:26,479 Speaker 1: obvious question considering that we're dealing with demand and especially 2009 01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,600 Speaker 1: supply shocks. Here is the problem. If it was just 2010 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:33,719 Speaker 1: a demand shock, if this was just us returning from 2011 01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:36,280 Speaker 1: COVID and starting to travel again and going back to 2012 01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:39,800 Speaker 1: a more normal consumption potter, it was just that, then 2013 01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:43,920 Speaker 1: interest rates probably are the tool. But there's simultaneously a 2014 01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 1: supply shock. So the three big things that are going 2015 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,960 Speaker 1: on in the world. The Ukraine War is shocking international 2016 01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:56,000 Speaker 1: energy and agricultural markets. Number two, China's falling out of 2017 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,880 Speaker 1: a system. COVID is the approximate cause, but it's only 2018 01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,840 Speaker 1: one of many. Facturing has to reshore or at least 2019 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,680 Speaker 1: shore somewhere else. That means we have to build up 2020 01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,519 Speaker 1: the entire supply chain somewhere else that was going to 2021 01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,439 Speaker 1: be inflationary all by itself. So that's kind of a 2022 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:13,880 Speaker 1: combined supply and mind shock. And then third, and by 2023 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:17,599 Speaker 1: far most importantly, the baby boomers, the largest generation we've 2024 01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:20,760 Speaker 1: ever had is leaving the workforce, and the replacements on 2025 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,240 Speaker 1: the young side are the zoomers, and they are the 2026 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,080 Speaker 1: smallest generation we have ever had. So we have a 2027 01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:30,679 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand worker shortage this year and it'll increase 2028 01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 1: every year for the next twelve until peaking in twenty 2029 01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,960 Speaker 1: thirty four about nine hundred thousand. Wow. So we have 2030 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,280 Speaker 1: a problem with our supply of labor that is by 2031 01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:45,040 Speaker 1: far the number one cause of inflation this year and 2032 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:48,640 Speaker 1: probably next year as well. And interest rates are useless 2033 01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,680 Speaker 1: for dealing with that, right. I think it's such an 2034 01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 1: excellent point. And one of the last things I want 2035 01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,160 Speaker 1: to get with you, Peter is we talked previously about 2036 01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:58,160 Speaker 1: how companies need to get more use to having inventory, 2037 01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,800 Speaker 1: and so we can move away from just in time 2038 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,519 Speaker 1: to time, liver or let a word one of the 2039 01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,840 Speaker 1: worst words, and for many companies balance sheets. How do 2040 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:10,160 Speaker 1: you incentivize that and change that because from what I'm seeing, 2041 01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,800 Speaker 1: given interest rates and all of that, right now, it's 2042 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 1: actually more likely that they're going to try slash and 2043 01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,880 Speaker 1: burn cost and they won't even have the incentive in 2044 01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,160 Speaker 1: order to invest. So we may actually be inducing some 2045 01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:22,240 Speaker 1: other problems on that side, or do you see it differently. 2046 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm curious. Well, A couple of things to keep in 2047 01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,080 Speaker 1: mind is demand is shockingly stable in the United States. 2048 01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 1: Right now we're balancing back from COVID. Americans have more 2049 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:32,479 Speaker 1: than two and a half trillion dollars in the bank. 2050 01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,400 Speaker 1: This is the most cash flush the American consumer has 2051 01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,840 Speaker 1: been since the dot com bubble. So demand, even in 2052 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 1: an era of high inflation, is going to continue. Ignore 2053 01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,559 Speaker 1: customer confidence surveys, look at retail sales, look at what 2054 01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,320 Speaker 1: we actually do, not what we're bitching about, and that 2055 01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,679 Speaker 1: would suggest that the demand is still there. And as 2056 01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,600 Speaker 1: long as demand is still there, the cost cutting is 2057 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,679 Speaker 1: going to be held in check because there is someone 2058 01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,360 Speaker 1: to sell to. There is someone to sell to at 2059 01:46:57,360 --> 01:47:01,800 Speaker 1: the prices that people have to pay. Now, the role 2060 01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,160 Speaker 1: for government here is very small. There may be some 2061 01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:07,760 Speaker 1: specific critical materials, as we've discovered baby food might be 2062 01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,280 Speaker 1: on that list where having a regulation for additional inventory 2063 01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:16,320 Speaker 1: stocks might make some degree of sense. Although with government regulation, 2064 01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,400 Speaker 1: by the time we get around to that being in 2065 01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:20,400 Speaker 1: place in an intelligent way, we'll probably be onto the 2066 01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:24,320 Speaker 1: next crisis by then. But I think this is entirely 2067 01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:28,240 Speaker 1: a private sector issue. Companies are going to discover. Companies 2068 01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,760 Speaker 1: have discovered that if you have to wait on a 2069 01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:35,439 Speaker 1: part nine months, is it really a viable part of 2070 01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:37,800 Speaker 1: your supply chain and you have to find another supplier. 2071 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,200 Speaker 1: And especially what we're seeing in the IT space is 2072 01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,040 Speaker 1: that China has now been offline for so long. I 2073 01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 1: mean Shanghai was down for two months, it's about to 2074 01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:51,679 Speaker 1: go down again. We're seeing manufacturers being forced to relocate 2075 01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,599 Speaker 1: to places like Mexico, the United States, and Vietnam, kind 2076 01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,439 Speaker 1: of the three big winners out of this. But it 2077 01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:00,839 Speaker 1: still takes time, and so companies are now making orders 2078 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,599 Speaker 1: in mass for product that is not yet coming out 2079 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 1: of supply lines because the supply lines aren't yet in place. 2080 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,479 Speaker 1: But it is providing some of the capital flow that 2081 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:11,519 Speaker 1: is necessary to build up this new system. On the 2082 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:15,000 Speaker 1: back end, it'll be this more stable system with shorter steps, 2083 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,840 Speaker 1: that is more economically viable, that employs North American workers, 2084 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:19,719 Speaker 1: that is closer to home, that is cheaper to operate. 2085 01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:22,320 Speaker 1: These are all good things. We don't get there in 2086 01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:26,120 Speaker 1: a year, yep. Well you always leave us for something 2087 01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,200 Speaker 1: to think about, Peter. So everybody go out by the book. 2088 01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:29,799 Speaker 1: We're going to have a link down in the description. 2089 01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,880 Speaker 1: We love talking to you. I hope you'll that you'll 2090 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,760 Speaker 1: come back, and we appreciate your joining us. Not a 2091 01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,519 Speaker 1: problem until next time. Absolutely, thank you guys so much 2092 01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:41,480 Speaker 1: for watching. We really appreciate it. I promise that announcement. 2093 01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,479 Speaker 1: It's coming. It's coming on the live tour. The tickets 2094 01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,160 Speaker 1: are coming as soon as we could shake out all 2095 01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:50,599 Speaker 1: the issues. I don't know why these things take much 2096 01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:53,559 Speaker 1: longer than anybody actually tells you, but hey, listen, that's 2097 01:48:53,560 --> 01:48:55,880 Speaker 1: how it goes sometimes. So it is coming. Thank you 2098 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,799 Speaker 1: all so much for your support. We obviously deeply appreciate 2099 01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,040 Speaker 1: it in these crazy, in these troubled times, and Crystal 2100 01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,519 Speaker 1: you going on, Bill Maher, I think it's just an 2101 01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:06,040 Speaker 1: affirmation of what we do here every day, you know, 2102 01:49:06,080 --> 01:49:07,400 Speaker 1: and why we do the show the way that we 2103 01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,839 Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, it felt like that. I felt very grateful, 2104 01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,760 Speaker 1: felt very grateful for this show. I'll just say that, 2105 01:49:14,240 --> 01:49:16,400 Speaker 1: very grateful for the space we have here, in the 2106 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,479 Speaker 1: format we have here, and the ability to sort of 2107 01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,200 Speaker 1: like really dig into these issues from variety of perspectives, 2108 01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:24,000 Speaker 1: like being able to dig in with Peter's Ihan, I mean, 2109 01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,120 Speaker 1: it's a great thing that we're extremely grateful to be 2110 01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:29,880 Speaker 1: able to do, so thank you guys for that. Certainly, 2111 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:30,799 Speaker 1: we'll see you all tomorrow