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Speaker 1: Trick or treat smell my feet. It's one more thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong andy, one more thing.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow, Trumble returned to the US and host the annual

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Speaker 4: White House Halloween party.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: Exciting for trig or treatise because this year everyone gets

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Speaker 5: a little piece of the East Wing.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I think that's cool. There you are, hey, yell. Actually

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Speaker 1: somebody Joanah Goldberg of Dispatch had that idea the other day.

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Speaker 1: Like he said, he didn't really have a strong position

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Speaker 1: on the tearing down the White House thing, but that's

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Speaker 1: you know, you couldn't like take a wall of that

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Speaker 1: take chunks of it and sell it for charity, because

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Speaker 1: h that's a pretty good idea, yeah, as opposed to

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Speaker 6: They tore the hospital I was born in down, and

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Speaker 6: I went up there and took a little piece of

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Speaker 2: Oh that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good story. Yeah. So I was gonna

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Speaker 1: talk Halloween because we don't record a podcast on Friday

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Speaker 1: Halloween is tomorrow as the recording of this podcast occurs.

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Speaker 1: My kids have past the age of like knock an

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Speaker 1: ondoorse trick or treating. But as Halloween has evolved over

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Speaker 1: then when you get into your twenties and thirties, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're single, it's a full on It's the biggest

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Speaker 1: the long time champagne. Yeah. I just remembered an embarrassing

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Speaker 1: going to have everybody if you can reminisce, do you

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Speaker 4: For how wow, I was a hobo year after a

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Speaker 4: year after year. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I

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Speaker 3: Oh well, i'd have.

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Speaker 4: God, when I was a little kid, I don't remember

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Speaker 1: Were't a baseball player or something some year and you're

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Speaker 4: How was that all the time? I don't, honestly, let

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Speaker 1: Did you not like candy?

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Speaker 3: I was pro candy, staunchly pro candy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I can think of like my adolescent years,

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Speaker 4: This was when we were in high school and the

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Speaker 1: I just you are a curmudgeon, man. My kids were

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, my god, I can picture my little kids.

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Speaker 4: The excitement of being in a Batman costume. Yeah, was

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Speaker 1: It's something to watch, the picking it out, the wearing

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Speaker 1: only Well, go ahead, Michael, what do you remember?

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Speaker 2: Well, I had an unfortunate incident. This is a true story.

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Speaker 5: As a kid, I wanted to make my own costume.

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Speaker 2: People were taking pictures and my mom was showing pictures up.

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Speaker 5: You know, Hey, this was you know what the kids

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Speaker 6: Wow, Michael True Colors, Huh.

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Speaker 2: No, It's just I wasn't good at crafts.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a racistem poor with crafts, Katie.

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Speaker 4: Was, my god, you are not going to admit to

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Speaker 6: My mother is the is the punchline of this story.

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Speaker 1: You dressed in brown face, no no, I.

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Speaker 4: Was she gonna be the old timey sweet snow White

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Speaker 1: Your kid would dress as a homeless person for Halloween

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I fooled anybody. But as I got

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Speaker 1: Were the super hot slutty Halloween costumes, which I was

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Speaker 1: It got a lot of laughs because I was not

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Speaker 3: Go on, that's funny and everything.

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Speaker 6: I was Sandy from Greece one year.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but slutty, but slutty Sandy, Sandy one at the

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Speaker 1: Because the whole point of that movie is you couldn't

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Speaker 3: That was the one I was, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: When she was her authentic self, sweet and innocent, she

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Speaker 3: Of a man, right, sure, right, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want my kids eating a bunch of candy

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Speaker 1: I haven't decided what.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking poulter Geist. He hasn't seen that. That's a

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Speaker 1: Or they're back, Yeah, the TV? And uh yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: This is a new, uh new neighborhood.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys all for you, Jack?

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Speaker 6: Do you get trigger treaders? You guys?

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Speaker 4: We lived in a neighborhood a number of years ago

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Speaker 4: that had a rep for being a great trick or

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Speaker 4: from like all over the Metro area would descend on

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Speaker 4: our neighborhood and I couldn't decide what I thought of that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you saw a hell of a lot of

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Speaker 4: you know, cute kids and all, but it was it

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Speaker 4: was like the adults getting free candy for themselves, putting

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Speaker 3: That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes you get the parents themselves walk up trick

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Speaker 4: or treat and the kid would be like back on

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Speaker 4: the sidewalk. It's just a complicated EBT program, right, exactly, Yeah, experience.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember what costumes that were as a kid,

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Speaker 4: but I can feel like my hot breath condensed on

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Speaker 4: the plastic mask with the tiny.

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Speaker 3: Little mouth hole.

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Speaker 4: I can't remember what mask it would have been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, back then, this is I don't know, this might

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Speaker 1: be before your times, Katie, butit but like the costumes

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Speaker 1: Joe and I would get going to sears or whatever,

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Speaker 1: every costume was exactly the same. Is just a different

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Speaker 1: print on the plastic sheeting you wore that looked like

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Speaker 1: Aquaman or Superman or Count Dracula or whatever. You're with

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Speaker 1: your plastic mask that were all the same with the

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Speaker 1: tiny little mouth hole and the tiny little eye holes

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Speaker 1: to make it easier to get hit by a car.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: The plastic masks had no breathing hole and you couldn't see,

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Speaker 4: so you'd get hit by a car. And if God forbid,

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Speaker 4: you got anywhere close to a flame, the plastic that

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Speaker 4: it was made out of would just go kerbluey, And.

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Speaker 6: If none of that happened, you'd suffocate.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and the painful strap around the mask behind your

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Speaker 1: head that wasn't good if you were big headed, yes, Michael.

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Speaker 2: Plus they would smell. I don't know if you remember to

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Speaker 2: have that plasticy smell if you had a really bad.

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Speaker 4: One, fumes were great for you. Yeah, how you got

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Speaker 4: cancer from?

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Speaker 1: The reason I got cancer is probably all the plastic

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Speaker 1: masks here after a year. I was at the Halloween

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Speaker 1: store the other day. It's interesting, the whole macabre. And

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Speaker 1: I know there's a psychological reason why we play out

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Speaker 1: But gosh, all kinds of like, here's a guy who's

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Speaker 4: It's just ah, why is that entertaining a little close

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Speaker 4: to home?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: No kid out in a world with all the crazy

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Speaker 4: junkies running around. Okay, is this a Halloween movie or

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Speaker 4: is this a clip from the news this evening.

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Speaker 1: Quick thing even now? Or as a kid, if you

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Speaker 1: put out your pumpkin, what candy would you most like

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Speaker 3: Uh? Back in the day, Snickers was a big win.

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Speaker 3: That good candy.

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Speaker 1: Snickers is pretty good. I like a peanut butter cup.

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Speaker 6: Okay, see, I was just gonna say, mine's tied between

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Speaker 6: a Reese's Peanut butter cup and a Snickers.

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Speaker 1: Peanut butter cup is damn good. I'm old enough that

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Speaker 1: like Grandma's were making popcorn balls or maybe actual caramel apples,

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Speaker 1: like they'd make homemade treats.

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Speaker 6: Dude, there was a dentist down the street from me

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Speaker 6: to get out toothbrushes.

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Speaker 1: I hated going to that guy's.

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Speaker 4: Oh jeez, screw you, dick, there's a half dozen eggs

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Speaker 4: for your trouble.

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Speaker 1: Run run well.

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Speaker 5: Back in the day, I'd eat a whole bag at

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Speaker 5: kit Cat bars, but these days it cost me a

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Speaker 5: toe or two.

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Speaker 1: Good diabetes joke there to end with, Well, I guess

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Speaker 1: that's it.