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Speaker 1: don Lost Culture Rista's calling. Okay, we've been little readers. Okay,
Speaker 1: we've been little readers. Matt and I are in a
Speaker 1: little book callub. But we've sort of fell into this
Speaker 1: very organically. Absolutely, I mean well to be you influenced me. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I woke up this morning morning at seven am, um,
Speaker 1: and I can't stayed up until midnight? Why seven am?
Speaker 1: Just because oh I just want to I had an
Speaker 1: early night. Um, but I even stayed up till midnight
Speaker 1: to refresh my kindle to see if Hillary Rodham Mclinton's
Speaker 1: rod Ham rod Ham Clinton's new book what happened or
Speaker 1: what happened was that likes to call it what had happened?
Speaker 1: Was everyone's posting this Fred Willard thing like what happened
Speaker 1: from a mighty wind Um? So uhum are mighty wind
Speaker 1: fans out there, all our Christopher guest fans. I just
Speaker 1: read that first thing in the morning and really like
Speaker 1: spent all my extrame. I was like supposed to get
Speaker 1: some writing down, but all I spent all my time
Speaker 1: just reading it, and I was like, God, this is
Speaker 1: a really fucking good book. Yeah. I went to the
Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble, and honestly, there wasn't the frenzy that
Speaker 1: I thought there would be, right, Like, I really thought
Speaker 1: there was going to be like a whole table of
Speaker 1: like only what Happened books, Like I thought this was
Speaker 1: this huge moment, but I had to look for the book. Yikes, right,
Speaker 1: this is like a big moment. Anyway, I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying.
Speaker 1: It's it's real juicy, and she's getting real. She has
Speaker 1: a whole fucking paragraph sentence that says I would have
Speaker 1: been a damn good president, and I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and um she drops and LaMotte Mary Oliver Layman Is
Speaker 1: references within the first like forty of the book and
Speaker 1: what do you want? I want to say something as
Speaker 1: a segway, I was reading two books today actually okay
Speaker 1: and books okay, dual reading, okay reading. Yes, I was
Speaker 1: reading two books and both of these books. Both of
Speaker 1: these books, Honey referenced Kelly Clarkson's hit What Doesn't Kill
Speaker 1: You Makes You Strong? Okay, because you know I was
Speaker 1: guide when I was reading Earth Hates Me Today by
Speaker 1: our guest Ruby carp And this book is in stores
Speaker 1: on October three. You can pre order now, Honey, and
Speaker 1: also want to say Ruby is the host of We
Speaker 1: Hope You Have Fun. It's a stand up storytelling show
Speaker 1: at the Beast every month. It's the second Monday of
Speaker 1: every month, and the next one is in October nine.
Speaker 1: We just had Drink Drining Gruffalo on the show. That's amazing. Oh, Pioneer,
Speaker 1: Pioneer and she's seventeen years old. She's a she's a junior, senior, junior, senior,
Speaker 1: rising senior at LaGuardia High School. Yes, come on, come through,
Speaker 1: and she pointedly references Stronger What Doesn't Kill You by
Speaker 1: Kelly Clark, and so does Hillary Clinton. So you have
Speaker 1: this in common, your two nasty women, and we're very
Speaker 1: excited to have Ruby. Hell, oh my god, it's so
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming here and being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Okay, Ruby, I
Speaker 1: want to kick things off, just just to get this
Speaker 1: out of the way. Is it annoying at this point
Speaker 1: when people keep like referencing your age, I mean, like
Speaker 1: you're only this old? Yes, great, okay, thank god. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we will not We'll talk about your life obviously,
Speaker 1: and like where you are at this juncture. But like
Speaker 1: I'm Matt, let's promise, okay, sure, but like, also marvel
Speaker 1: enjoy people marveling at your young age while that happens,
Speaker 1: because also, like you will get to like you'll get
Speaker 1: to this sick place where you'll hit and be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm in my mid to late twenties.
Speaker 1: What's happening? And then you'll be truly and then I'll
Speaker 1: miss my youth. Yeah. Absolutely, so enjoy it while while
Speaker 1: but of course I understand, like it's going when people
Speaker 1: sort of coddle you into being like, oh, you're here baby,
Speaker 1: and just like write off. Yeah. Well it's also like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm young and I wrote a book. But it's also like, no,
Speaker 1: I wrote a book, Like it's not about my age.
Speaker 1: It's about writing and being funny and all of those
Speaker 1: great things strolling. A lot of wisdom in the book,
Speaker 1: and a lot of really very cool people have read
Speaker 1: this book and given amazing like quotes it Amy polar
Speaker 1: On on the cover of the book, Queen Amy got
Speaker 1: to shear, she got missed, Natasha, you got the other
Speaker 1: and she's got a glazer in the four and the
Speaker 1: four glazer. Come on. So did you get to hang
Speaker 1: out with her? Was it just like I've known Alana
Speaker 1: since I was pretty young? Actually, I did broad City
Speaker 1: Live before broad City was this big thing that it
Speaker 1: is now, which is insane. They're so awesome. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: can you explain, like how did you get involved in
Speaker 1: the comedy community so young? Like how did this come about? Well,
Speaker 1: my mom started a magazine called Bust in the nineties. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. That's so cool. Yeah, thank you, She'll
Speaker 1: be My mom's coming to watch this. Soon she forgot.
Speaker 1: She made me a cream cheese bagel and she forgot
Speaker 1: at home, so she wanted to get it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom started bust and so she in like the nineties,
Speaker 1: was partying with like Amy and Matt and all of
Speaker 1: them before they were famous and like Tina, like all
Speaker 1: of them before they were big deals. So because they're
Speaker 1: all like relatively the same age, so my mom and
Speaker 1: them would we're all just like genuine friends. And then
Speaker 1: she was around when they first started UCB, and that
Speaker 1: was also right at the same time she got pregnant
Speaker 1: with me and she had me, and we would always
Speaker 1: be at the theater just because we were like supporting
Speaker 1: our friends and stuff. But then when my dad left
Speaker 1: and moved back to Australia when I was three, my
Speaker 1: mom had nowhere to go with me because like she
Speaker 1: was a working woman alone single. I don't have any siblings,
Speaker 1: so it was just like my mom and I. So
Speaker 1: my mom would always bring me to UCB and like
Speaker 1: throw me on stage with all of them while she
Speaker 1: would go cry in the green room. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: I was like three, and they would like pull me
Speaker 1: on stage and just like swing me around and We're like,
Speaker 1: look a child, and they would like do improv with me.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like conscious of anything, but that was happening.
Speaker 1: And then slowly I just got really accustomed to constantly
Speaker 1: being surrounded by adults. My god, what an origin story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you were just really thrust into that atmosphere. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I literally like grew up just being comfortable on
Speaker 1: stage and doing improv and literally just constantly being surrounded
Speaker 1: by comedy. Oh my god, and your partners were these legends. Legends, yeah,
Speaker 1: which I so did not know at the time. The
Speaker 1: first time I did ask Cat, well, I did Amy's
Speaker 1: Sparkles to the party when I was seven. And then
Speaker 1: right after that, because I guess I was like finally
Speaker 1: formed human being, she was like, you're ready to do
Speaker 1: as Cat. Wow. So when I was yeah, no, not
Speaker 1: improv um. But when I was eight, I did monologues
Speaker 1: that ask Cat for the first time. And you know,
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like, oh, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: just me telling stories like with my friends. But now
Speaker 1: I'll meet people like in my improv classes or at
Speaker 1: different job kind of things, and they'll be like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I saw you do mogues when you were
Speaker 1: like ten, and I was like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so sad. No I need I mean that is like
Speaker 1: the most precocious of precocious things is to be on display,
Speaker 1: is to like like open yourself up like that and
Speaker 1: to all these strangers. I mean no, I mean like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course it feels embarrassing, but that's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. They're really like that's that's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean. And the thing is like it was never
Speaker 1: like a big deal to me because I was just like,
Speaker 1: these are this is just what I've grown up doing.
Speaker 1: Then I got my own show when I shared doing
Speaker 1: that when I was like eleven. But then it got
Speaker 1: to a point when I was like fourteen fifteen where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is like a profession that
Speaker 1: people do, Like people pursue comedy because for someone, I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to be a rock star, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be an actress, And like then I slowly
Speaker 1: started realizing like, oh I don't want to do those things.
Speaker 1: I actually just want to do writing and comedy. So
Speaker 1: then I actually started like really developing comedy and really
Speaker 1: actually trying to like work towards building a set, building
Speaker 1: an essay of book things and then here we are,
Speaker 1: here we are, So did you go out and Mike, like,
Speaker 1: and how does that work? As like a fourteen fifteen
Speaker 1: year old? Yeah, I can't get into any class, I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. So to this day yeah no, no, to
Speaker 1: this day, yeah, I've only I honestly have not performed
Speaker 1: at that many clubs in the city, mostly just us
Speaker 1: be the Pit, I did the Slipper Room, and I
Speaker 1: did like one other place, and really that's it because
Speaker 1: I can't get in anywhere else. That's wild. That's gotta
Speaker 1: be crazy, that's gotta be crazy. But you're all, you're
Speaker 1: also like, that's like the Beyonce narrative, like she's you know,
Speaker 1: she's walking on stage and heels at fourteen And let
Speaker 1: this episode be called any comparison to Beyonce, I will take.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you my favorite story about Destiny's Child
Speaker 1: and like them getting whipped into shape by Matthew Knowles,
Speaker 1: which maybe this is like a crazy story, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys knew this, But he would
Speaker 1: take them out on like five mile runs and he
Speaker 1: would have them sing in harmony the whole time, and
Speaker 1: he would drive in the car next to them if
Speaker 1: they is true, and he'd be listening to the harmonies
Speaker 1: to make sure that they were tight. But so that
Speaker 1: so that when they were dancing and performing on stage,
Speaker 1: it was like nothing. That it was like nothing to me,
Speaker 1: right because they that's I guess how they truly learned
Speaker 1: how to control their breath, which, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: is not so to do it, because that's really what
Speaker 1: it is. Is just and now you see and you
Speaker 1: see Beyonce perform at the Super Bowl and you're like,
Speaker 1: how the hell would she be the machine that she is?
Speaker 1: She was literally getting run either to it either your
Speaker 1: dad makes you run five miles and harmonize with your
Speaker 1: with your friends, or your mother thrust you wanted the
Speaker 1: stage at UCB with all of you and there we go. Narrative.
Speaker 1: So so like is in your comedy, in the comedy
Speaker 1: that you do, that's gotta be Do you talk about
Speaker 1: stuff in school? Do you talk about like stuff that
Speaker 1: you're you're going through? It do feel like a pressure
Speaker 1: to talk about like bigger things that maybe other comics
Speaker 1: are talking about, Like talk to me about that? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: my thing is from a very a young age, it
Speaker 1: was very clear that on stage there were lines that I,
Speaker 1: as a young person, couldn't cross. Like when I was
Speaker 1: like fourteen night and I started like being interested in
Speaker 1: like boys and stuff like that. I and I would
Speaker 1: like tell a story or two it would make the
Speaker 1: audience so uncomfortable. I wouldn't even I was a fourteen
Speaker 1: I wasn't like doing anything like weird, but I would
Speaker 1: just like talk about like, oh, yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: crush on a boy and this is what happened to mamma.
Speaker 1: And the audience would feel really weird because they'd be like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see a young girl talk about
Speaker 1: boys and like getting bras and stuff like, because it
Speaker 1: because for a bunch of adults to watch a child
Speaker 1: on stage, they feel weird. They're exactly so, especially when
Speaker 1: I got like older, like sixteen seventeen, it was very clear, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't really talk about hookups or some things that
Speaker 1: happened that you know, all teenagers and everyone went through
Speaker 1: when they were my age. But for some reason, I've
Speaker 1: found that it makes people uncomfortable to like have me
Speaker 1: explicitly say all those things. So I discovered that pretty young.
Speaker 1: So my mom and I came up with this thing
Speaker 1: that we call ellen degenerous humor, which is we can't curse,
Speaker 1: we don't talk about sex or any I'm not that,
Speaker 1: but like, we don't talk about sexual things, and we
Speaker 1: keep it clean, no potty jokes or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Because for me, it's like, I want my comedy to
Speaker 1: rely purely on the fact that I'm funny, not based
Speaker 1: on me cursing or me talking about something inappropriate. I
Speaker 1: want my comedy to purely be me being funny about things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's going to pay huge dividends as you get
Speaker 1: older and as you do free up that space, because
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you know, you are setting these limitations
Speaker 1: on yourself for very good reason. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that you're setting these restrictions in order to develop something
Speaker 1: very specific, and I mean that's that's all you need. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's actually kind of a good idea to develop
Speaker 1: inside this box because because it actually you you place
Speaker 1: rules on on yourself without thinking about the rules that
Speaker 1: everyone else will taste. No, I developed actually my own way.
Speaker 1: I've heard about a lot of people who actually toured
Speaker 1: doing a Christian comedy and then when they come of age,
Speaker 1: and they get old enough, they break out of that
Speaker 1: and they they feel the freedom and they feel the individuality,
Speaker 1: talk about whatever. And because they had so much training,
Speaker 1: like playing to a specific audience or like doing whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just it's for some reason just
Speaker 1: kind of sets them free in a way. Bass Layer,
Speaker 1: So Ruby, you should toward towards some Christians totally, My
Speaker 1: Rabbi would love. Yeah, absolutely, yes, of course. Wait what
Speaker 1: was your tour passage? It was Jonah and the Whale.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. It was a good one. I
Speaker 1: did it based on the Veggie Tails movie. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you know about this? Oh right, okay, So
Speaker 1: just this is a this is a quick story. My
Speaker 1: sister who's twenty nine, um, just had her adult butt mitzvah.
Speaker 1: Oh that's the thing. That's a thing. Well she she
Speaker 1: threw it. She just wanted the party and wanted That's
Speaker 1: exactly my twelve year old self did that for the
Speaker 1: exact reason exactly what your Oh was a musical theater.
Speaker 1: I didn't have a theme, but if I could, it
Speaker 1: would have been musical theater. Good And I'm actually really
Speaker 1: glad that you didn't have a theme because My sister
Speaker 1: didn't really have a theme for her. Themes are a
Speaker 1: little a little weird. Sometimes they get a little weird.
Speaker 1: To get a little weird, and you're I feel like
Speaker 1: you're going to look back and it's always going to
Speaker 1: be embarrassing. I wanted to wear a pants suit. That
Speaker 1: is the thing I wanted to do, but I didn't
Speaker 1: end up doing it. That's okay, And this was what
Speaker 1: five years ago. I think, yeah, yeah, what's the end,
Speaker 1: you know what. That's awesome and I'm glad that feels
Speaker 1: very contemporary for you not to have a theme. My
Speaker 1: sister did not either, but she, um, yeah, she just
Speaker 1: wanted the party and it was so fun. It was
Speaker 1: christ She married a Jewish Man. She married a Jewish Man.
Speaker 1: She wanted to converge. She um, she was doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything to you. Oh my god, No, I'm being sope
Speaker 1: being that person. Um doesn't mean anything to you. When
Speaker 1: I when I say that, she she's such a Charlotte. No,
Speaker 1: I'm the worst. He's referencing sex in the City and
Speaker 1: oh I love sex and the City. It was like
Speaker 1: a Jewish Charlotte, like a thing. No, Yeah, she's um, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a she's a Charlotte. I completely understand. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: and I'm so sorry that I had to ask. And
Speaker 1: I feel like such a fucking oh no, no, you
Speaker 1: were because honestly, there's people haven't seen sex people that
Speaker 1: honestly was before our time as well. It was a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, that was literally the first show
Speaker 1: where women all sat. That was like one of the
Speaker 1: first shows passing the Beck told test there already even trying. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeahs and so like, and that was a rerun show
Speaker 1: for us. Well, here's the thing, Ruby. We were told
Speaker 1: that you know everything, I mean, like you that you
Speaker 1: have a pretty that's a lot of pressure. Not everything.
Speaker 1: We were told that you have a very broad scope
Speaker 1: of popular culture. Yes, would you say that's true? I
Speaker 1: would say that's true partly because I like to spend
Speaker 1: my free time in my room watching Netflix series. So
Speaker 1: I just feel like I am cultured because I just
Speaker 1: like have seen mostly everything. And your mother is prolific
Speaker 1: magazine editor founder, you know, and so you are you
Speaker 1: are passed down this sort of pop culture. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I also just like I've always had an interest in
Speaker 1: what's happening in society. Yeah, the book, Yeah, well, because
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the reason I really wanted
Speaker 1: to write this and agreed to writing it was because
Speaker 1: there are so many people talking about teenagers and writing
Speaker 1: my teenagers and being like generation whatever we are like
Speaker 1: all these things about us, but like no one knows
Speaker 1: anything about us really because no one's living through it.
Speaker 1: We're really one of the first generations to truly live
Speaker 1: through Snapchat and Instagram and Facebook in its like ultimate prime,
Speaker 1: where every single one of those apps is a big deal.
Speaker 1: And I felt like I didn't want to be that
Speaker 1: person who was like I understand teenagers. I'm with you, guys.
Speaker 1: I literally truthfully wanted to just be like, no, these
Speaker 1: are my experiences. Here's some humor, and like here some advice. Right,
Speaker 1: So you're saying that you wrote this book with um
Speaker 1: this this sort of point of view of it not
Speaker 1: being tied necessarily to like this very esoteric, like mysterious
Speaker 1: part of team culture that is like you just want
Speaker 1: to write something like, well, the other thing is like
Speaker 1: people don't seem to understand that, like, yeah, we have
Speaker 1: social media, Yeah there's all these new things, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, like we're still teenagers and you all
Speaker 1: were teenagers once and really, yeah, they're social media, but
Speaker 1: it all comes down to the same five things everyone
Speaker 1: else was freaking about when they were teenagers, which is parties,
Speaker 1: whoever they like, school, their family, and then whatever their
Speaker 1: extracurriculus are, and getting into college. Like truly, other than that,
Speaker 1: there's not that much that we hear about. When I
Speaker 1: was reading the book today, I was thinking to myself
Speaker 1: while I was reading it, you know, there's not too
Speaker 1: much in here that's very different from what we went through.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, just to run through some of
Speaker 1: the topics. I mean, yes, there is like and there
Speaker 1: is like a new lens on it, of course, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's about social media bullying. There's a lot
Speaker 1: about it. You know. She has a large section about
Speaker 1: just unrequited love and like going through that, so I
Speaker 1: guess like my question for you. And then there's also
Speaker 1: topics which we didn't even talk about as teens, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, embracing feminism. Oh my god, you know, and
Speaker 1: I think this is amazing for for people not only
Speaker 1: your age to have your voice say to them, but
Speaker 1: also it's cool for people our age and older to
Speaker 1: hear that this generation is talking about these kinds of
Speaker 1: things and and also having those dialogues. So, Mike, to
Speaker 1: you is who do you want to read the who's
Speaker 1: the audience for this book? Who do you hope will
Speaker 1: read the book? And what do you want them to
Speaker 1: get from it? I feel like I want a variety
Speaker 1: of different people to read this book. I feel like
Speaker 1: the most one of obviously, the ideal person to read
Speaker 1: this book is a teenager who feels like they have
Speaker 1: no one else to talk to, because a lot of
Speaker 1: what being a teenager is is no matter how many
Speaker 1: people love you, no matter how great your life is,
Speaker 1: you still have moments where you're like, wow, I have
Speaker 1: no one. Even if you have the most loving family,
Speaker 1: even if you have the best friend in the world,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what. Whatever you're feeling is so extreme
Speaker 1: in the moment, but everyone tells you that you can't
Speaker 1: feel those feelings. All adults will just be like, your
Speaker 1: hormonal things are just happening. You're just none of this
Speaker 1: is going to matter in ten years. But the thing
Speaker 1: is it matters now and obviously, and I say this
Speaker 1: in the first chapter of the book, none of my
Speaker 1: problems are real problems. I am totally privileged, like none
Speaker 1: of these things are real issues, but they feel really
Speaker 1: real to me, and I'm going to talk about them.
Speaker 1: My god. I mean and that never I mean not
Speaker 1: to like sound too ominous, but that never goes away,
Speaker 1: that always stays with you, and like those those problems
Speaker 1: will like ripple out into your life in the future.
Speaker 1: That has implications on um future work that you're going
Speaker 1: to put out like on every just no, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I totally because when you're growing up in those four
Speaker 1: years in high school, that is the most you're going
Speaker 1: to grow as a person in your entire life. You
Speaker 1: are going through the most changes in those in those
Speaker 1: four years. Then you will ever that fast because yeah,
Speaker 1: you grow up and yeah things happen, but the way
Speaker 1: you are raised, in the person you become because of
Speaker 1: those years literally affects the rest of your life. And
Speaker 1: people don't realize that because people are just so obsessed
Speaker 1: with statistics and what's happening with teens and what's cool,
Speaker 1: but no one's taking time to be like your is
Speaker 1: the actual emotions and what's really happening in the mind
Speaker 1: of a teenager. And I think that's why I hope
Speaker 1: that people that our age and older read it too,
Speaker 1: because that's an actual account from someone that's your age.
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, I was thinking of
Speaker 1: myself earlier today. I was like, when's the last time
Speaker 1: I talked to a seventeen year old and really talked
Speaker 1: to them, not just like a so how school, Like
Speaker 1: he really had an actual conversation because people don't think
Speaker 1: that teenagers have minds because they're just like, oh young people.
Speaker 1: But like, no, like all of my friends can have
Speaker 1: good conversations with people above the age of eighteen. Now
Speaker 1: that being said, well, before we got on the air,
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about um you know this
Speaker 1: year year you're we talked we're talking about Hillary's book,
Speaker 1: We're talking about you know, politics and general in some
Speaker 1: roundabout way. We're talking about how this year you're going
Speaker 1: to be taking the ap US Government in History or
Speaker 1: U S History or is the government US government? Well
Speaker 1: US Street was last year. This year's US. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: there's a GOV. So UM I also took this class,
Speaker 1: and I took it in two thousand seven, So this
Speaker 1: was UMU when Obama was rising. You know, this was
Speaker 1: when it was either going to be hillaryal or Obama.
Speaker 1: And you know obviously we were faced with McCain and
Speaker 1: I actually Sarah Palin didn't become a thing until until college.
Speaker 1: But it was I remember thinking to myself, I wonder
Speaker 1: what my ap GOV class would say about this, because
Speaker 1: I actually went to school with people who would have
Speaker 1: defended someone like Sarah Palin. Now this brings me to
Speaker 1: this question. So you're in these classes right now where
Speaker 1: you have these kinds of opinions from everyone about politics. Now,
Speaker 1: I from my perspective looking back, I sometimes think to myself, like, wow,
Speaker 1: how insane that a group of seventeen year olds were
Speaker 1: asked their political opinions. However, I think what I'm actually
Speaker 1: saying to myself is wow, how insane that a group
Speaker 1: of seventeen year olds were so conservative? Because I went
Speaker 1: to school is so like, what's it? What's it like
Speaker 1: where you know, you'd think it was progressive, but it's
Speaker 1: actually rather conservative. So what's it like right now? What's
Speaker 1: the political climate right now in that class, in your
Speaker 1: in your GOV class. Well, the thing is about I've
Speaker 1: I'm growing up in New York, which is the most
Speaker 1: liberal place you could possibly go to school, and then
Speaker 1: you're going to LaGuardia, which is, which is even more liberal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Laguarty is a performing arts high school, so everyone at
Speaker 1: the school has dyed hair. Everyone's very culturally aware, very
Speaker 1: politically correct, like, you will get attacked if you say
Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Ever, now with that being said, in
Speaker 1: these ap GOV classes, it is rare that there will
Speaker 1: ever be someone who is not a Democrat or doesn't
Speaker 1: have very liberal democratic views. But what happens in these
Speaker 1: classes is someone will say something in the wrong way,
Speaker 1: something that it has clearly good intentions comes out is weird,
Speaker 1: is worded wrong. They get attacked, like people go off
Speaker 1: on them. I had a girl in my class today
Speaker 1: talk about how we can't attack Trump supporters because then
Speaker 1: we're stooping to their level and that they're people even
Speaker 1: though they like have believe what they believe. And you know,
Speaker 1: I like understood what she was saying. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I kind of agree in a way. But there were
Speaker 1: some people in my class who were like, oh, so
Speaker 1: you support racists, you support racism, like all this stuff,
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, let's take a step back,
Speaker 1: let's breathe a little bit, talk about something else. But
Speaker 1: that's it's either it's so funny because teenagers now are
Speaker 1: almost too politically correct, like we're so socially aware to
Speaker 1: the point where it's like people don't even it doesn't
Speaker 1: even seem like people want to be politically correct anymore
Speaker 1: for the sake of actually being politically correct. People just
Speaker 1: seem to really, yeah, people like want to be like, no,
Speaker 1: I know more about feminism than you do. And it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're losing touch of actual activism. Because activism and if
Speaker 1: you're actually not a racist, and if you're actually a feminist,
Speaker 1: you want you just want equality. You want people to
Speaker 1: just have good morals and be good people, which a
Speaker 1: lot of people aren't, which is their thing. But people
Speaker 1: get to a point where they just they start attacking
Speaker 1: each other. And really, if we want activism, if we
Speaker 1: want to make a change, we need to talk to
Speaker 1: each other and have a conversation and be open minded
Speaker 1: and be allowed to listen to each other's opinions and
Speaker 1: take them in and have a calm, civilized conversation. But
Speaker 1: now we're all so self righteous and so entitled to
Speaker 1: our opinions that no one can seem to be able
Speaker 1: to take in what anyone else is saying totally. I
Speaker 1: mean it's so interesting that you say this, And because
Speaker 1: I was talking to this good friend over the weekend.
Speaker 1: We were taking a while in the park and he
Speaker 1: is this sort of and I would say his name, um,
Speaker 1: but he is he is this pretty like, you know, uh,
Speaker 1: prolific sort of presence and like someone even call him
Speaker 1: a social justice warrior, not even pejoratively, but just like
Speaker 1: that's part of his like um on social media and
Speaker 1: he's just he's just well known in that regard. And
Speaker 1: he was he even realized and I means, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying his name because I feel like maybe this is
Speaker 1: like a sort of a semi semi controversial thing to say,
Speaker 1: but he was just like I feel like everyone is
Speaker 1: just losing their minds, even on our side. Like he
Speaker 1: was just at this pride event, uh in this and
Speaker 1: in the small town, and then there was just a
Speaker 1: group of like there's a group of sort of like
Speaker 1: activists who were there who went up to him and
Speaker 1: questioned him and they were like and it's just like
Speaker 1: a normal pride event, talk like talking about like being
Speaker 1: a person of color who's queer. And this group of
Speaker 1: people go up to him and they're like and they're
Speaker 1: just and what he notices that they're they're they're trying
Speaker 1: to find their words, and they're these young people who
Speaker 1: were just like struggling to be like to just figure
Speaker 1: out what to say to him, to be like, so
Speaker 1: how do they were like, how do you stay in
Speaker 1: your lane? You know? Like how do you how do
Speaker 1: you stay awoke but stay like you know, And they
Speaker 1: were just sort of like pulling these these borrowed terms
Speaker 1: or these past down terms, and it's like and I
Speaker 1: think what this person realized was, Oh, everyone is a
Speaker 1: little bit confused and a little bit frenzied because we're
Speaker 1: all figuring this out as we go. Like everyone across
Speaker 1: all age groups, across all like you know, political backgrounds, whatever, Um,
Speaker 1: they're losing how to express themselves because I think we're
Speaker 1: still figuring out how to and I think that that
Speaker 1: applies to everybody well. Also, so much of what I
Speaker 1: talked about in the book, and so much of what's
Speaker 1: going to help my generation really make progress in activism
Speaker 1: is having a voice and using that voice to your advantage.
Speaker 1: But if people are afraid to use their voices because
Speaker 1: they're afraid of getting attacked or being called aggressive or
Speaker 1: any of these things. People aren't going to speak up
Speaker 1: because they're afraid because they don't, they're afraid they're going
Speaker 1: to be wrong or be politically incorrect. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: if you're politically incorrect, let's have a conversation about it,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it, we can, let's work it, let's
Speaker 1: work through it together. But instead everyone has just converted
Speaker 1: to this fear factor because everyone's so afraid of saying
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, when really we should say the wrong thing,
Speaker 1: get corrected, and then work our views out. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it seems to be a problem that you know, the
Speaker 1: right wing doesn't have, because it seems like they are
Speaker 1: able to just march in that like someone who's like
Speaker 1: really happy, really proud to like put a Confederate flag
Speaker 1: on their house can and and who doesn't maybe understand
Speaker 1: what that means. We'll just proudly walk next to a
Speaker 1: member of the literal KKK in the streets, and it
Speaker 1: seems like nothing goes through their heads, and no one
Speaker 1: else on their side is gonna be like, hey, that's
Speaker 1: actually hey. Yeah, they're not going to call each other,
Speaker 1: they're not having these discussions. They just mobilize and go
Speaker 1: and it's I think a reason why they, for better
Speaker 1: or worse, seem to get things done, whereas on our
Speaker 1: side it feels like, you know, still to this day.
Speaker 1: I mean, with what Hilary says in her book about
Speaker 1: Bernie and the way that the Bernie people are responding
Speaker 1: to her even now, and the the the jumping down
Speaker 1: on Kamala Harris before she can even be a candidate.
Speaker 1: If feels like it's it's a huge reason why we
Speaker 1: can't get things done is because it seems like it's
Speaker 1: stopping conversation from happening totally. And the other thing is
Speaker 1: like everything I'm saying is directed towards people who like
Speaker 1: have the kind of views I have. Like, obviously, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a very different conversation if we're talking about someone
Speaker 1: who is actually a racist or actually a misogynistic person.
Speaker 1: Everything I'm saying is I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: who really want to be politically correct, but they just
Speaker 1: don't have the information or the resources to understand what
Speaker 1: that means, or what feminism really means, or what it
Speaker 1: means to be a racist or not be a racist.
Speaker 1: So everything I'm saying is directed towards the people who
Speaker 1: actively want to be politically correct and be people who
Speaker 1: have views that are progressive. The people who don't have
Speaker 1: those views, that's another conversation, because those are people who
Speaker 1: have been raised that way. They've been raised that way
Speaker 1: the way I've been raised to be a feminist, and
Speaker 1: you can't change me. If if someone came up to
Speaker 1: me and calmly started to speak to me about being
Speaker 1: a being anti feminism, being racist, I would obviously be like,
Speaker 1: absolutely not, you psychopath. But in terms of making progress
Speaker 1: on the liberal side of America, we can't make We
Speaker 1: will only make progress if we do it together. And
Speaker 1: if we're splitting each other up because some people are
Speaker 1: more liberal than others, that's not progress. That is actually
Speaker 1: going backwards. It's it's it's now. I do have another
Speaker 1: question about your APO class. Y'all know you have a
Speaker 1: test to take at the end of the year, right,
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. When they put that test in
Speaker 1: front of us at the end of the year in
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, I looked down at that test. We
Speaker 1: hadn't talked about any of it come on that, but
Speaker 1: we had so many conversations about whether it was going
Speaker 1: to be Brock or Hillary, and like whether or not
Speaker 1: like whether or not we should be pro choice, Like
Speaker 1: like literally my teacher got us off one day and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, everyone who's pro choice, get on
Speaker 1: that side of everyone, and if we're on decided and
Speaker 1: stay in the middle. He did this about issues and
Speaker 1: then maybe the worst thing a teacher, he was not
Speaker 1: good um and oftentimes, like I responded to one thing
Speaker 1: in your book, you were talking about how you had
Speaker 1: this teacher. This is in the book and this is
Speaker 1: so fucked up. So so Ruby has this Actually you know,
Speaker 1: do you have to take a break. Let me let
Speaker 1: me say this tidbit and then we'll take a short break.
Speaker 1: So a teacher of about thirty years old, you said, um,
Speaker 1: was speaking with you and then recommended to you that
Speaker 1: you not be too feminists because it comes off as unattractive. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: this happened. She also called me a dumb blonde for
Speaker 1: two years, just so you all know. I'm a brunette.
Speaker 1: But I was a child. And the thing is, like,
Speaker 1: the thing is like these teachers are everywhere everywhere. I
Speaker 1: mean I had them in my high school on Long Island,
Speaker 1: like you had them in your liked New York New
Speaker 1: York City middle school. New York City most progressive middle
Speaker 1: school you could possibly go to. Don't be too much
Speaker 1: of one of those feminists because it could be unattractive
Speaker 1: or aggressive. Yeah. I was taking a woman's suffrage class
Speaker 1: at the time, and she pulled me over and she
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, because that was like the social studies
Speaker 1: course that I was taking. And she no, she was
Speaker 1: like she was one of my teachers. That was one
Speaker 1: of the teachers in my school. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited because I'm taking this awesome woman suffrage class.
Speaker 1: And she pulls me over and she's like, just say,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, men really don't find feminists attractive.
Speaker 1: You're gonna don't become one of those aggressive feminists, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what, let me tell you. I
Speaker 1: had a teacher at one time in high school. Um,
Speaker 1: and we were we was just gotta say this, and
Speaker 1: so listen. We were talking about and Culter, who was
Speaker 1: literally the garbage of the that were earth. So she
Speaker 1: had said something about how like all all the Jews
Speaker 1: in the world needs to convert to Christianity, like like
Speaker 1: you know, her whole m o, like she just was
Speaker 1: going on about that, and I was talking about how
Speaker 1: sick that was. And my teacher at the end of
Speaker 1: class pulled me aside and he said to me, the
Speaker 1: thing is, um, everyone does need to convert to Christianity
Speaker 1: because then there won't be any more cancer in the
Speaker 1: world and sickness. And I was looking in his eyes
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you're like a religious like that.
Speaker 1: You know that's against the law, right, I mean, it
Speaker 1: was fully against the law, I said. I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to handle it at the time, like I kind
Speaker 1: of just like okay, and I left the room and
Speaker 1: I think I ran down the hall. I was just like,
Speaker 1: that was so freaking scary. That's shocking. And you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, if there's any come up ins here,
Speaker 1: both of both of those teachers are being put on
Speaker 1: blast now and your teacher is being put on blast
Speaker 1: in your book. So there you go. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the book and we'll talk more
Speaker 1: to Ruby Carp, who I'm so loving this converse, and
Speaker 1: we will talk more right after this short brief abbreviated break. Okay,
Speaker 1: jam and we're back with Ruby Carp. Now, Ruby, we
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. We want to ask you
Speaker 1: the question we ask all of our guests and we're
Speaker 1: doing this in act two, which is great. Um, which
Speaker 1: is Ruby? What is the culture that made you say?
Speaker 1: Culture is for me? This is the the culture that
Speaker 1: made you decide to step in a cultural direction? You
Speaker 1: said to yourself, Wow, I love media. I love film, music, television,
Speaker 1: the stage, cultural life. What have you? What have you m?
Speaker 1: It's a weird question. For me. It was definitely being
Speaker 1: raised by a single mom, because the thing is, when
Speaker 1: you're when you're, when you are Rory, Rory and Laura,
Speaker 1: like Gilmore are, you are living a very different life
Speaker 1: than basically everyone else. Because the thing is, I grew
Speaker 1: up always being encouraged to talk about my feelings and
Speaker 1: tell my mom everything that was happening in my life
Speaker 1: and tell her every all the drama that was happening
Speaker 1: and everyone that was being mean to me. So from
Speaker 1: a very young age, I just I was open to talking,
Speaker 1: and I was open to discussion and wanted to have
Speaker 1: conversations with people and really learn about them because my
Speaker 1: mom would do this thing where when I was little,
Speaker 1: even though I would be talking about nothing, my mom
Speaker 1: would just ask me about my day and let me
Speaker 1: just talk for as long as I wanted, so that
Speaker 1: from a really young age, she was always encouraging me
Speaker 1: to express what I was thinking. That's such a great answer,
Speaker 1: And then it's so gilmore girls and and because you're
Speaker 1: because you're saying that, that made everything else all into
Speaker 1: place for you, like your love of movies, um, you know, comedy,
Speaker 1: everything else. Yeah, self expression in general too. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: think maybe because there are two parents, when I'm asked
Speaker 1: how my day was, it's like, well, it's a different
Speaker 1: story at all. Yeah, because especially when I was younger,
Speaker 1: it was like it was no matter what was happening,
Speaker 1: was my mom and I against the world. Like my
Speaker 1: mom was my best friend. Now it's like my roommate.
Speaker 1: Like obviously she's still my mom. We fight all the time,
Speaker 1: but now it's like we're sisters, like we know each
Speaker 1: other so well to the point where it's like there's
Speaker 1: no question of whether or not I'm telling her about
Speaker 1: my day. She just knows everything and not. And the
Speaker 1: thing is I tell her everything in that she trusts
Speaker 1: me to have no curfew, to come home when I
Speaker 1: want because she knows where I am because I'm telling
Speaker 1: her what's happening. So the relationship we have is based
Speaker 1: in trust, and you're very honest with her, And I'm
Speaker 1: very honest with her because the thing is like, I'm
Speaker 1: not a bad kid, so there's nothing I really need
Speaker 1: to hide from her. And all of the things that
Speaker 1: I'm doing are teenage things. I go out with my friends,
Speaker 1: I have fun nights, I go to the movies with people.
Speaker 1: I write books, like all teenage things. And my mom also, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I work pretty hard and stuff, so my
Speaker 1: mom lets me be rewarded with not being very lenient
Speaker 1: about curfew and coming home and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: really having that sense of independence, having my own room,
Speaker 1: really being my own person has made me who I
Speaker 1: am because without that sense of independence and really learning
Speaker 1: what it means to be alone but still have a
Speaker 1: lot of love in my life has really just shaped
Speaker 1: me as a person. That's beautiful. So you're you tell
Speaker 1: me you're studying drama at LaGuardia, but acting is not
Speaker 1: necessarily like the yeah, well for me, I just kind
Speaker 1: of I feel like in terms of breakout start like
Speaker 1: ales and stuff, I really I mean, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to speak for the future because like I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but I really I love writing,
Speaker 1: and I also love television and really studying what people
Speaker 1: react to and what works. And I feel like if
Speaker 1: I'm going to act and be on TV, it's going
Speaker 1: to be my story or what I like, my character
Speaker 1: that I'm writing for me, and that's the direction everything's
Speaker 1: going in anyway. So you're what are you liking on TV? Now?
Speaker 1: What shows are you liking? Well? I don't really watch
Speaker 1: that much live television. I really watch a lot of Netflix.
Speaker 1: So what have you been? Okay, So right now, in
Speaker 1: the middle of Handmaid's Tale, it is crazy hands it
Speaker 1: is I am so oh my god, so much is happening.
Speaker 1: We're also discussing it in my home class right now
Speaker 1: in school, which was so awesome. It's so awesome, right.
Speaker 1: I wish I had done that. I always for that
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, Like you have a
Speaker 1: class where we could? I mean in my apt class
Speaker 1: one time, my Aplow teachers like exposed us to Stephen Sondheim.
Speaker 1: We started talking about Sweeney Todd and then I went
Speaker 1: to go see the movie and I was like, I
Speaker 1: wanted I couldn't wait to come back to class talk
Speaker 1: about it. I have a whole class about stuff like,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's so great because we just
Speaker 1: have conversations about all this stuff. It's so fun. But
Speaker 1: I you know, I've been binging Parks and rec for
Speaker 1: like the second time, the Office for like the fourth time. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Secret Guilty, Pleasure, Gossip Girl, Guilt More Girls,
Speaker 1: all those. Weirdly, I like go in and out of
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy. Sometimes it's like it's back when it was
Speaker 1: good exactly. I'm trying how I Met your Mother. I
Speaker 1: just I'm trying everything that's on Netflix. So you really
Speaker 1: are like trying to like broaden your skip like it
Speaker 1: was really cute. We are trying to like get this
Speaker 1: good media diet of stuff that's come that's that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily of your time. And I'm not saying I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that that's like that. It's like, yeah, like it
Speaker 1: was on like when you were certain. It's like when
Speaker 1: we watched like it nailed. But The Gray's Anatomy when
Speaker 1: we were sixteen seventeen absolutely nailed me to the wall.
Speaker 1: But that's because that was season two and three. Well
Speaker 1: that's that's essentially like because for me, it's all about
Speaker 1: finding my voice in terms of writing, because my voice
Speaker 1: in terms of stand up comedy is very self deprecating,
Speaker 1: like my humor is. My My view on humor is
Speaker 1: why offend anyone else when you can just offend yourself?
Speaker 1: Because everyone, especially now, everything's a trigger for people and
Speaker 1: everything brings things up for people. So why make fun
Speaker 1: of other people when you can just make fun of
Speaker 1: yourself when there's no risk of And also it's just fun.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so fun to just like laugh at
Speaker 1: yourself and tell funny stories of things that happened to you.
Speaker 1: But in terms of television, my I love My favorite
Speaker 1: movies are like Francis Hall in Manhattan and Moon Rise
Speaker 1: Kingdom and movies like that. And I really want to
Speaker 1: one day find the media between Francis Hall and Parks
Speaker 1: and Recreation. Oh great, specific good? Oh, I mean like yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's like a crazy median that's like where do
Speaker 1: you find that one? I mean, I love like I've
Speaker 1: been watching Girls because I think the way it's done, directed, written,
Speaker 1: everything about it is so exactly what I hope to
Speaker 1: be one day. That's great, It's oh yeah. And because
Speaker 1: the thing is, there are so few and that's why
Speaker 1: master of None there are so few people making comedy
Speaker 1: shows that are based in truth and based in real
Speaker 1: things that the way real people actually are, And like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's this thing of like comedy aturs now on TV
Speaker 1: and um, and I feel I feel like Girls I
Speaker 1: get paved the way for the show. But in a sense,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about Insecure and Secure. I
Speaker 1: was going to suggest it to you. Have you started
Speaker 1: watching Insecure. It's a show with Withsa Ray. It's based
Speaker 1: on our web series called Awkward Black Girl. It's essentially
Speaker 1: like I don't want to like dumb it down this way,
Speaker 1: but it's essentially Girls in l a Like it's like
Speaker 1: an all black cast. It's really really great. It feels
Speaker 1: it feels like like what would you describe almost like
Speaker 1: the second season feels a little bit like Sex in
Speaker 1: the City, a little bit like there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of love triangles. It's really fun to watch. It's um,
Speaker 1: it's just it's yeah, it's one of them. I think
Speaker 1: you really liked the show. It's also a really and
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this you've experienced in
Speaker 1: high school and stuff, but it's a really good examination
Speaker 1: of what it means to be faithful and what happens
Speaker 1: when someone cheats and the psychology of that. I just
Speaker 1: think it's really good. And I actually tried to watch
Speaker 1: it a year ago and I kind of didn't give
Speaker 1: it a chance because I just didn't buy it totally.
Speaker 1: I wasn't on board. But I gave it a shot
Speaker 1: and again like two or three days ago, and I
Speaker 1: love it. And I've and all of this week and
Speaker 1: I was binging through Atlanta and that another show. I
Speaker 1: think it might be sort of the closest thing that's
Speaker 1: in that liminal space between Frances Hat and um Parks
Speaker 1: and Recki's head where it's like it's it's it's funny,
Speaker 1: it's funny, it's observed. It's also like so so textured
Speaker 1: and real in that way. I think you would love Atlanta.
Speaker 1: It's like there's some like crazy fucking ship that happens
Speaker 1: in the show. And but I think I think you
Speaker 1: would love it. I think it's if you can handle
Speaker 1: Handmade's Tale, you can handle Atlanta. It's it's really really good,
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's like operating that space
Speaker 1: that you kind of want to go for, yeah, exactly. Also,
Speaker 1: like the new season of Master of none. I loved
Speaker 1: because it tackled real life problems, both socially like politically
Speaker 1: and stuff, but also just real moments like he was
Speaker 1: freaking out about one girl and then ran into his
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend who he hadn't thought about in a while
Speaker 1: on the street, because that's the thing that happens. You're
Speaker 1: just like, you're freaking out about something and then you
Speaker 1: run into someone who you totally don't expect to see
Speaker 1: but I have thought about so much, Like those are
Speaker 1: That's such a real moment, that's such a thing that happens,
Speaker 1: especially in New York. I feel like that. I just
Speaker 1: feel like there's so many moments in the show that
Speaker 1: are so and like when he's freaking out about the
Speaker 1: girl and then he starts writing a pros and consolist
Speaker 1: and then he's like, wait, no, I like her, Like
Speaker 1: there's nothing I can do about that, Like just like
Speaker 1: little things like that that it's like the show is
Speaker 1: so funny, but then there are so many moments where
Speaker 1: he just lets the show get real. And I think
Speaker 1: that for so long, a sitcom was like a funny
Speaker 1: show where people make jokes and like sit around and
Speaker 1: drink coffee. But like now we're finally realizing that comedy
Speaker 1: is about truth, and comedy is based in reality, and
Speaker 1: without that based reality, there's no comedy because there's thing
Speaker 1: to make fun of. So I think the fact that
Speaker 1: we're finally making shows that appreciate that and that like
Speaker 1: really bring that out is such a big deal. That's
Speaker 1: so cool that that that's that this stuff is resonating
Speaker 1: with you especially and I'm sorry to bring up your
Speaker 1: rage again, but your age, you know, it's like that.
Speaker 1: But that's very encouraging, and you know, it's huge, it's huge,
Speaker 1: it's huge, Thank you. It's such a good time for everybody,
Speaker 1: but like especially for like people who are going to
Speaker 1: be sort of you know, not defined by this by
Speaker 1: this era, but like sort of it's going to text
Speaker 1: urize there. Also, when you're seventeen and when you're a
Speaker 1: teenager and young, you're feeling everything you're feeling for the
Speaker 1: first time. So everything you're feeling is so intense because
Speaker 1: we've never felt it before, which is why your first love,
Speaker 1: your first heartbreak, your first everything resonates with you so
Speaker 1: much because you've never experienced it before. So your emotions
Speaker 1: are so heightened because you don't know how to deal
Speaker 1: with it, and you become so impressionable with what you
Speaker 1: consume media wise, because for me, Grey's Anatomy was like
Speaker 1: the first show that like fucking blew my fucking mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best show I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in my It was so crazy, and like now
Speaker 1: looking back, it's like I have such a nostalgia for it,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's no, no, no, I will say
Speaker 1: the second season of it, the production value was way
Speaker 1: higher than what they give it now. Now it's fucking
Speaker 1: Meredith Gray standing in front of a green screen and
Speaker 1: she's like, it's great to be in front of a waterfall.
Speaker 1: It's like they had they spend no money on it
Speaker 1: now because didn't none other have to. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: it was like remember that Nember, that fairy disaster, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that wasn't forget Yes, definitely, but like that
Speaker 1: was like the last throws of them having a budgets
Speaker 1: sucking moment. The fucking Code Black episode where there was
Speaker 1: a literal explosion in the hallway and that was a
Speaker 1: real explosion, and I was like, how about like two
Speaker 1: people got stuck on a pole and one of them
Speaker 1: had to die? Episode I ever watched it, like, this
Speaker 1: show is amazing. Yeah, and that girl that that girl
Speaker 1: should have wanted my to but didn't. Wait, I have
Speaker 1: a question for you, Um, do you have a lot
Speaker 1: of gay friends in high school? But I mean maybe
Speaker 1: you don't. Maybe you would be surprised at how many
Speaker 1: kids are straight at a performing arts school in the
Speaker 1: drama department, because because you think they haven't come out yet,
Speaker 1: or because you think they're legitimately straight, and right, I
Speaker 1: think I think they're legitimately. Here's the thing. I I
Speaker 1: have a lot of gay friends because I went to
Speaker 1: Performing Arts Camp, which is so different than performing art
Speaker 1: high school. Because the thing is about Performing art high
Speaker 1: school is that a lot of these kids either aren't
Speaker 1: out yet or honestly, because the thing is, it's not
Speaker 1: that I don't talk to people or don't see people
Speaker 1: outside of my department, but it's really hard to have
Speaker 1: classes with people not in the same department as you,
Speaker 1: so you don't really really mingle that much outside of
Speaker 1: your department, and really in the drama department, especially in
Speaker 1: my read, there's not that many kids who are out,
Speaker 1: which is fine, which is totally okay performing arts camp,
Speaker 1: though the ratio of straight boys too straight girls. Actually,
Speaker 1: no ratio straight boys to not straight boys is zero
Speaker 1: to one million. That's going to be frustrating for someone. Oh,
Speaker 1: you have no idea, You have no idea. I think
Speaker 1: there were maybe maybe two straight boys at camp who
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're straight, but they weren't
Speaker 1: even that attractive, and they got girls all summer because
Speaker 1: they will continue to keep putting themselves in performing rule
Speaker 1: number nineteen of culture. Straight boy going to arts camp
Speaker 1: um um. But that's see. I ask you that because
Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm in high school and Rubies there,
Speaker 1: I go befriend Ruby. Oh yeah, think that's how I feel.
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be a great friend for a
Speaker 1: gay kid. I mean, you're just You're just an interesting
Speaker 1: female and honestly, like I mean, I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: that's not saying that that's all it takes, but it's
Speaker 1: like that you gravitate towards that. No. But I feel like,
Speaker 1: also there's a lot of people in high school that
Speaker 1: are like they're super smart and dynamic, but there that's
Speaker 1: also closeted, you know what I mean, Like that's another
Speaker 1: thing that stays inside when your closet. It's about your sexuality.
Speaker 1: Is you also don't say how you feel and don't
Speaker 1: say what you think. So it's just interesting to talk
Speaker 1: to you and hear all all of this because I
Speaker 1: think about myself at that age and I think, wow,
Speaker 1: I was not even close to being ready to be
Speaker 1: myself and say the things I thought. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: that's hard about the high school is that people make
Speaker 1: their friends and then they don't really feel the need
Speaker 1: to go outside of those friends that they've made. Like
Speaker 1: I really didn't find my group of friends until like
Speaker 1: last year, and even then I don't really have a
Speaker 1: specific group. I kind of just have friends that I
Speaker 1: like who I hang out with, and like they're all
Speaker 1: they all hang out with different people. The problem with
Speaker 1: conversation is I don't say these things in class. The impression,
Speaker 1: the impression people at school half of me is I
Speaker 1: raised my hand all the time because I always have
Speaker 1: something to say about whatever book we're reading or whatever
Speaker 1: US government topic we're talking about. So people at my
Speaker 1: school are like, oh, yeah, that girl, do want to
Speaker 1: that the one the teacher's pet, when really, like I
Speaker 1: could care less about what a teacher thinks of me.
Speaker 1: I want to like have a conversation and like discuss
Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale and like really talk about Trump. But the
Speaker 1: thing is everyone's so focused on seeming cool and not
Speaker 1: seeming like they're too aggressive that when people get very
Speaker 1: passionate about their points, everyone's like, oh, yeah, this guy again.
Speaker 1: Making friends in high school, it's not that it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's just difficult to make new friends outside of friends
Speaker 1: you haven't had for a while, especially when you know
Speaker 1: you feel like everyone has decided whoeveryone is already exactly
Speaker 1: what I what I will you? You'll go to college?
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you? Where do you want to go?
Speaker 1: I'm only applying to six schools. I'm applying early action,
Speaker 1: which just means I'm applying early. It doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, it's not really. I'm applying early to Emerson
Speaker 1: for comedy because I have a comedy major, which is awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's in Boston. I can continue comedy and stuff
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. But I'm applying to Yale, Wesleyan, Columbia,
Speaker 1: Columbia College, Chicago, Northwestern USC, and Emerson And that's it.
Speaker 1: And don't worry. Um and college. I grew up at
Speaker 1: I grew up in the city and I don't have
Speaker 1: the money, go go to Emerson, go else. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: pray I get in, guys, you will be fine. Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: say those school again, because those are all pretty good
Speaker 1: comedy college I want to be. I want to be
Speaker 1: I want to be a comic. So, like I'm applying,
Speaker 1: the thing is, there's no comedy major at schools other
Speaker 1: than Emerson and Columbia College Chicago. So if I go
Speaker 1: to scoop, everyone learned about my college future life. So
Speaker 1: I think I'm in a major in film. If for
Speaker 1: those schools that I don't major, when did you go
Speaker 1: to Emerson and see and everything already? Yeah? So you
Speaker 1: toward and when you toward? What did they say? The
Speaker 1: comedy curriculum is like like who teaches? They're like what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um, it's a sketch writing curriculum, so bit not
Speaker 1: like not the whole thing, but basically, you have a
Speaker 1: class in improv, youw class on history of comedy, of
Speaker 1: a class on writer's room. They basically teach you everything
Speaker 1: you need to know and help you craft a portfolio
Speaker 1: to go into the real world and just pursue comedy.
Speaker 1: There you go, hug. So basically, I went to school
Speaker 1: for writing at n y U and you had to
Speaker 1: fight to get into classes that were like that. And
Speaker 1: I went to school for it and NYU and literally
Speaker 1: major with a concentration in television writing at ny U
Speaker 1: Tish dramatic writing, and I didn't even ever get to
Speaker 1: take a light late night writing course because it was
Speaker 1: competitive to get into and I was in the department
Speaker 1: and I was alphabetical the way they decided who got
Speaker 1: the classes that my name started with R. So yeah,
Speaker 1: by all means you should totally go. Yeah. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have been telling me mixed things about majoring
Speaker 1: in something like comedy, because the thing is, I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't learn comedy. You're either you are. You have
Speaker 1: to either be. You have to learn it obviously, but
Speaker 1: you comedy isn't a thing that you can take a
Speaker 1: class and you have to learn it through doing it.
Speaker 1: You because you form your stand up act by trying
Speaker 1: get out on people. But at the same time you
Speaker 1: have to master your craft and you have your gaining
Speaker 1: so much practical yeah, exactly, And like you need to
Speaker 1: build a portfolio, you need to learn how to be
Speaker 1: an ensemble you need to learn how to not think
Speaker 1: you're the best person in the room. Like, there are
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you need to learn. A
Speaker 1: lot of people have been like, no major in something else,
Speaker 1: you'll get material for your comedy. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's about that. I think it's about really learning the
Speaker 1: format of writing and sketch writing and all of the
Speaker 1: different kinds of improv and teams and all of the
Speaker 1: different things that go into it to really go out
Speaker 1: into the world and be a formed like understanding comedians.
Speaker 1: There is an academic and classical training knowledge to it.
Speaker 1: There is a history of comedy. People who take who A,
Speaker 1: take theater b f as, they have to take history
Speaker 1: of acting. They have to learn all of that. Comedy
Speaker 1: is the same thing, just more concentrated. It just feels
Speaker 1: frivolous and you're like, oh, you don't have to do
Speaker 1: that comedy. It's actually there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: commiss listening to this wishing that they could have gone
Speaker 1: to or could still go to Emerson. I mean, we
Speaker 1: have some Emerson alums who have been on the show
Speaker 1: that we're comedy pats. I don't know if comedy major
Speaker 1: is like literally a new thing. It literally started like
Speaker 1: a year or two. Yeah, that's but it's still so cool.
Speaker 1: Like can you imagine going to one class and it's
Speaker 1: like sketchwriting and I have friends who are freshmen there
Speaker 1: and literally they were like yeah, or eight am tomorrow
Speaker 1: is called like why did the chicken costs? Across the road?
Speaker 1: And it's literally a joke writing class, and so I
Speaker 1: would I can't put a price tag on a fucking
Speaker 1: professor telling me or an adjunct whatever just being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: um learned to be humble you askhole, Like if someone
Speaker 1: had told me that, Like I don't know, just like
Speaker 1: way ahead of time, like what huge? Also someone being
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't need a spec script of Parks
Speaker 1: and Wreck. What you need is a writing example of
Speaker 1: your own ship, which we were still writing fucking rocks
Speaker 1: when we were in college. Yeah, it was like all
Speaker 1: about the specs, all about the specs for an existing show,
Speaker 1: and they don't look at that anymore. It's wild. Well
Speaker 1: it's also it's not even about because you can't you
Speaker 1: can't teach someone how to write. That's a natural thing.
Speaker 1: You have to do it, but you have to learn
Speaker 1: about who's done it. Before to find your own voice,
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. I used to want to go
Speaker 1: to college for writing. But the thing is, I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone can teach you how to write. It's just
Speaker 1: about learning the formats and then finding who you are
Speaker 1: through that. God, that sounds so like weird. All the
Speaker 1: all the reviews of my book have been like great book,
Speaker 1: cliche person, And I've been like, you, my god, well
Speaker 1: because yeah, well all the reviews have been like three
Speaker 1: point five or four out of five stars because they've
Speaker 1: been like, sometimes the book gets a little cliche, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's an inspiring book, what do you expect?
Speaker 1: And and I was six when I wrote it. That's
Speaker 1: not cliche, all you fucking jack, That's what I would
Speaker 1: have said. Oh my god, I'm that's stupid. So you've
Speaker 1: decided to read the reviews. Oh here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: am a people please or I literally have a heart
Speaker 1: attack when people are mad at me or don't like me,
Speaker 1: which is awesome because I want to go into the entertainment,
Speaker 1: which is maybe the worst pre place to be for
Speaker 1: someone like me. But that's okay. It's awesome that I'm
Speaker 1: a very very very sensitive person. Like I will hold
Speaker 1: onto grudges. I will remember everything. I have done a
Speaker 1: lot of cool things in my life. I only remember
Speaker 1: the times that I've messed them up, of course. And
Speaker 1: you know what, this is just something that you will
Speaker 1: also learn that maybe they'll teach you in college. Is
Speaker 1: that like just that that is something that you just
Speaker 1: steal yourself against, Like like I would say in the
Speaker 1: same way as you really in that in that basic
Speaker 1: way maybe and that is too. But like we've had
Speaker 1: to learn, like don't read the comments, like it doesn't
Speaker 1: I learned that the hard way when I was literally thirteen.
Speaker 1: I mean because I wrote I wrote an article for
Speaker 1: mash double when I was thirteen about how teens aren't
Speaker 1: using Facebook anymore and I literally like kind of got
Speaker 1: death threats and it was like it was awful, And
Speaker 1: I would read all the comments because like no one
Speaker 1: told me not to. And then Tommy Gevinson, I was
Speaker 1: like I was interviewing her. We we used to both
Speaker 1: like being in the Hello Giggles world, so like we
Speaker 1: know each other, and I was talking to her on
Speaker 1: like a panel once and she was like you can't
Speaker 1: do that. She was like she was like it will
Speaker 1: kill you. And the thing is like I read the
Speaker 1: reviews because I want to know what my friends are
Speaker 1: seeing when they look up the books, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Because the thing is like I don't really
Speaker 1: care about the reviews, but I care about my friends
Speaker 1: being like, oh, yeah, the books not even that good
Speaker 1: because that that sounds awful and like I shouldn't think that,
Speaker 1: but like I do because I'm still in high school.
Speaker 1: Like it's not like I wrote the book and now
Speaker 1: I'm off, Like it's like, no, I'm still in school.
Speaker 1: Every day. I have to go home right now and
Speaker 1: do my ap government home or I have like I'm
Speaker 1: still a student, and like people follow me on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I'll go to parties and I'll see people and
Speaker 1: they'll be like, hey, you're publishing a book, right, And
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, let's die now. Well
Speaker 1: that won't go ah wait either. You're always gonna want
Speaker 1: to be in the know. You're never gonna want people
Speaker 1: to like know things about you that you don't know exactly.
Speaker 1: And the thing is like reviews hurt a lot because
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I'll read them and I'll be like,
Speaker 1: do you understand that I spent a year of my life,
Speaker 1: like putting everything I had and like all of my
Speaker 1: personal stories, because if you read the book, like it's
Speaker 1: very personal, it's about the common teenager. But I I
Speaker 1: said to myself before I started writing the book, there
Speaker 1: was no way I can write a book about all
Speaker 1: teenagers and not talk about my personal self experiences. Because
Speaker 1: I say this in the first chapter, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I I'm not a girl who likes girls. I'm not
Speaker 1: a boy who likes boys or a boy who likes girls.
Speaker 1: I can only tell you what I've been through, and
Speaker 1: I can only tell you my personal experiences. So I
Speaker 1: use what I've gone through to just help people get
Speaker 1: through what they're going through. I can't know what it's
Speaker 1: like to live in a household where there's five people,
Speaker 1: and I've grown up with just my mom. The family
Speaker 1: chapter was the hardest chapter I had to write because
Speaker 1: I had no idea how to relate to people who
Speaker 1: didn't have relationships with their parents, but also people who
Speaker 1: had dads who were present, people who had siblings. I
Speaker 1: had no idea what to do. And then the way
Speaker 1: I figured out was just like talk about me, talk
Speaker 1: about what I've been through and how I got through
Speaker 1: it and be honest with that. And then on the
Speaker 1: flip side of that, it's like, just like how you feel, like, well,
Speaker 1: there's no way I can speak to all of these
Speaker 1: different experiences, Like I mean there there is some onus
Speaker 1: on the reader to be to just be open minded
Speaker 1: and accept your experience is something that they should hear
Speaker 1: about because they should and so like yeah, I god,
Speaker 1: I yeah, we fully hear you. And like, I think
Speaker 1: it's super cool. And I encourage I've I've read quite
Speaker 1: a bit of it today. Um, I really encourage everyone
Speaker 1: that's listening to preorder the book. Um, earth hates Me?
Speaker 1: What does the title mean to you? Earth hates Me?
Speaker 1: So originally the book was titled Braddy, which is my
Speaker 1: mom's nickname for me growing up. But then in one
Speaker 1: of my chapters, I write and I and in the
Speaker 1: heartbreak chapter, I was like, sometimes I wake up and
Speaker 1: I feel like the earth hates me because everyone hate them.
Speaker 1: I'm like me going on some stupid brant. And then
Speaker 1: the woman who is the book cover designer was reading
Speaker 1: through the book to get a sense of the book
Speaker 1: so that she could figure out what the design was
Speaker 1: going to be, and she was like, hey, I know
Speaker 1: you like the title you came up with, but what
Speaker 1: do you think of Earth Hates Me? It was a
Speaker 1: line in one of your chapters, and I really think
Speaker 1: it's funny. And I was like, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: is so my book. It's self deprecating, which is exactly
Speaker 1: my humor and basically is the whole book. And also
Speaker 1: it's exactly what every teenager feels like, Oh yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's so funny and specific to that sentiment at that age,
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's a fantastic title. Well,
Speaker 1: you should all pre order the book Earth Hates Me.
Speaker 1: It is installed, whereas on October three, Earth Hates Me.
Speaker 1: True Confessions from a Teenage Girl. It is super great,
Speaker 1: and I think it's really really cool to, like you said,
Speaker 1: here a perspective from someone that is your age on
Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's nice to check in and understand that,
Speaker 1: like you know, they're having the discussions to about what
Speaker 1: it means to be, what the word cis gendered means,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, these things aren't just
Speaker 1: exclusive to and I think in the millennial generation we
Speaker 1: get kind of wrapped up in ourselves. These aren't conversations
Speaker 1: that we're only having it's a worldwide discussion and it's
Speaker 1: super exciting and the book is awesome. Um let's move
Speaker 1: on to I don't think so, honey, So Ruby, I
Speaker 1: explained this to you a little bit. So this is
Speaker 1: I don't think it's funny. This is our segment where
Speaker 1: we take one minute to rail against culture. We've done
Speaker 1: a live show with this. We'll have to have you
Speaker 1: on the next one. We'll make sure it's a venue
Speaker 1: we can get you into. That's some shade, will be
Speaker 1: like and that's the at Um people. But yes, we
Speaker 1: will get you in the next live show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: So basically it's cla I don't think so, honey, we
Speaker 1: take do you have one say? The silence is deafening anyway,
Speaker 1: So yeah, we take one minute to rail against something
Speaker 1: in culture. I loved, um, I loved what I do
Speaker 1: you had before. I don't know maybe it's changed. But
Speaker 1: we're going to go one by one. Bang would you
Speaker 1: like to start? How one ready to you? I guess
Speaker 1: I could do one? Okay, alright, let me let me
Speaker 1: let me get the timer for you. Um, here we go,
Speaker 1: Oh man, what aving to do it? Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. It's gonna be on theme for this episode,
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna repeat I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: as many times as possible as we as we eviscerate
Speaker 1: this topic. This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Time starts new. I don't think so, honey. Almost all
Speaker 1: of the teachers from my high school. I'm putting you
Speaker 1: all on blast. Mr Brown, you only wanted to be
Speaker 1: our friends. I'm sorry it government. Mr Brown. You had
Speaker 1: a test and preparis for and you just reveled in
Speaker 1: watching everyone tear each other apart. And you know what,
Speaker 1: you were the tennis coach and you did nothing. I
Speaker 1: don't think Mr Brown, I don't think so, honey. Mr Riley,
Speaker 1: my tech teacher who engaged in a Facebook comment fight
Speaker 1: right before the election and posed the election with my friends,
Speaker 1: and then you got into a huge fight and you
Speaker 1: are not on the right side. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: Mr Riley. And also, I believed in you, and you
Speaker 1: abandoned me senior year when I needed you as my
Speaker 1: track coach, and I had a shitty track coach my
Speaker 1: senior year. I don't think so, honey. You Mr Riley,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Mr Rozani, who was my
Speaker 1: cross country coach in high school, you tried to use
Speaker 1: me for political reasons that I can't remember, but I
Speaker 1: remember that it wasn't good. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Um five seconds? Uh, this one miss the woman who
Speaker 1: ran the education department and English department who took the
Speaker 1: job away from my ap let teacher because she didn't
Speaker 1: show enough movies. Mannet. That is I don't make, honey,
Speaker 1: high school teachers power plays. You have, no These teachers
Speaker 1: use abuse their power. Yes they do. And also it's
Speaker 1: like house of cards. They try to mar and manipulate.
Speaker 1: Boy who cares whatever it means to you? Oh well,
Speaker 1: it means to me that they're trying to double cross
Speaker 1: because I remember that we had like a student student
Speaker 1: union president that was one of the teachers and teachers
Speaker 1: in the school and then to gain his favor, like
Speaker 1: teachers would do shady things. And I was like, this
Speaker 1: is not about the students. And when you're a senior
Speaker 1: and you come of age, you know that's true. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I think I think we're sticking to a
Speaker 1: theme here. Okay, are you going for it? I'm going
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna focus
Speaker 1: on one. Okay, here we go, Okay, bow and Yang.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Dr Peggy Lane, who insisted on her
Speaker 1: calling on us, her students calling her doctor Lane because yeah, cool,
Speaker 1: she had her PhD in English literature or whatever the funck.
Speaker 1: But she kept lording it over us and making and
Speaker 1: and you know what, here's what she did, talk about
Speaker 1: power place. She politicized the entire class. Because here, here's
Speaker 1: what she did. She would always every class say, Maria Celeski,
Speaker 1: she's superior, guys, you gotta follow her example. She's writing
Speaker 1: these really cogent arguments about stying, beck fucking who knows what.
Speaker 1: And she made us feel bad. She shamed us in
Speaker 1: class for not reading the books, which maybe she should
Speaker 1: have shamed us for anyway, who who knows? But I
Speaker 1: don't think so many doctor Lane. She talked like a
Speaker 1: fucking cartoon mouse and she was. She was ridiculous, and
Speaker 1: I just everyone hated her, and she intimidated all of
Speaker 1: her students. That is not the nurturing environment that you
Speaker 1: should be fostering. In your schools, in a public school,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Only doctor Lane, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of pent uppers for her, and
Speaker 1: I do. I wish her well. But she she was
Speaker 1: ultimately a benevolent force. But also the way she went
Speaker 1: about things was pit her students against each other. And
Speaker 1: I don't like that. You. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: A woman who had a doctorate and only wanted the
Speaker 1: respect that she was owed and you, But was she
Speaker 1: never even shame? Was she that? Because my mom, my mom,
Speaker 1: fucking she has her doctorate and she doesn't. My same
Speaker 1: goes from my dad. I call her doctor, I call
Speaker 1: her on the phone, everything. But she wouldn't care if
Speaker 1: you didn't. And that's my point. Some people demand respect
Speaker 1: when it's not necessarily totally earned as it there. That's
Speaker 1: rule number one earned that fat coined by one Ruby
Speaker 1: carp Thank you Ruby, And I want to throw one
Speaker 1: more teacher under the bus. Mr Holdsworth used to make
Speaker 1: the quote unquote cute girls sit in the princess chair.
Speaker 1: And yeah, whenever a girl was are illegal at that school, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would make them sit in the princess chair. And
Speaker 1: then our principal, Dr Aileen Rossman. Dr Rome came to
Speaker 1: our came to our classroom one day and said that
Speaker 1: had to stop. And you know what it did, and
Speaker 1: it did stop. And teachers of the world, if you
Speaker 1: are isolating female students and putting them in a chair
Speaker 1: in front of the room, sorry, I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Now it seems like Ruby is ready to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so, honey, Ruby car time starts. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. College application, Yes, excuse me,
Speaker 1: the s a T. Thank you for defining my intelligence
Speaker 1: based off of a singular test. What happens? My test
Speaker 1: is seven hours long because I have anxiety, so I
Speaker 1: get seven hours of the s a T. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: no calculator section? Are you kidding? I'm defining who I
Speaker 1: am based off of my math grades, based off of
Speaker 1: a six D fifty word essay about who I am.
Speaker 1: You don't even know me. Please define my intelligence, Harvard.
Speaker 1: Have you seen the movie The Hunting Ground? You suck, Harrid.
Speaker 1: How how are you supposed to define how I am
Speaker 1: as a writer based off of how I analyze an
Speaker 1: s a T? Say? Are you kidding me? Authors who
Speaker 1: have written sa T articles have tried to take the
Speaker 1: sa T about their articles and failed. The is correct
Speaker 1: and as well as the college process. There you go,
Speaker 1: oh one minute, I think now they'll stop doing it.
Speaker 1: They'll stop administering it because of me, because of my
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. All it takes is one
Speaker 1: voice to take down the college board. They let me
Speaker 1: tell you something that isn't just a money making machine.
Speaker 1: They all they care about is money. That's all it is. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a money making machine. And the thing is, I like,
Speaker 1: I consider myself a pretty intelligent person. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: because everything now in education is memorization and test taking.
Speaker 1: It's not education, it's just memorization. And then colleges are
Speaker 1: seeing my scores and my grades which is like a
Speaker 1: ninety average and like a hundred, which to Yale is
Speaker 1: not enough. And the thing is, it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: what if during high school I published a book, I
Speaker 1: did a comedy show, but you know what that that's
Speaker 1: not enough for those schools because my grades and my
Speaker 1: scores don't define them. But take the a C. That's no,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't. I well that. But also I
Speaker 1: have anxiety, so I need extra time on tests or
Speaker 1: I will fail, and the A c T denied me
Speaker 1: extra times because they didn't believe I actually had anxiety.
Speaker 1: A week before they test, they revoked my extra time
Speaker 1: because they were like, you're lying about having anxiety and
Speaker 1: I was like, what hey a c T um we
Speaker 1: hear last culturest just believe women. And when they say
Speaker 1: they have anxiety issues around testing, when you like me
Speaker 1: to have a panic attack in front of you, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. I run a note
Speaker 1: from my therapist like I didn't understand what it would take. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh my god, that's but I say
Speaker 1: I recommended because it's it's actual test based on comprehensive
Speaker 1: knowledge and not just supposed to take the S A
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