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Speaker 1: don Lost Culture Rista's calling. Okay, we've been little readers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we've been little readers. Matt and I are in a

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Speaker 1: very organically. Absolutely, I mean well to be you influenced me. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I woke up this morning morning at seven am, um,

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Speaker 1: Just because oh I just want to I had an

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Speaker 1: early night. Um, but I even stayed up till midnight

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Speaker 1: to refresh my kindle to see if Hillary Rodham Mclinton's

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Speaker 1: rod Ham rod Ham Clinton's new book what happened or

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Speaker 1: what happened was that likes to call it what had happened?

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Speaker 1: Was everyone's posting this Fred Willard thing like what happened

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Speaker 1: from a mighty wind Um? So uhum are mighty wind

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Speaker 1: fans out there, all our Christopher guest fans. I just

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Speaker 1: just reading it, and I was like, God, this is

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Speaker 1: a really fucking good book. Yeah. I went to the

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Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble, and honestly, there wasn't the frenzy that

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Speaker 1: like only what Happened books, Like I thought this was

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Speaker 1: It's it's real juicy, and she's getting real. She has

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Speaker 1: and um she drops and LaMotte Mary Oliver Layman Is

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Speaker 1: a segway, I was reading two books today actually okay

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Speaker 1: and books okay, dual reading, okay reading. Yes, I was

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Speaker 1: reading two books and both of these books. Both of

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Speaker 1: these books, Honey referenced Kelly Clarkson's hit What Doesn't Kill

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Speaker 1: guide when I was reading Earth Hates Me Today by

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Speaker 1: our guest Ruby carp And this book is in stores

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Speaker 1: on October three. You can pre order now, Honey, and

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Speaker 1: also want to say Ruby is the host of We

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Speaker 1: Hope You Have Fun. It's a stand up storytelling show

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Speaker 1: at the Beast every month. It's the second Monday of

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Speaker 1: every month, and the next one is in October nine.

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Speaker 1: We just had Drink Drining Gruffalo on the show. That's amazing. Oh, Pioneer,

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Speaker 1: Pioneer and she's seventeen years old. She's a she's a junior, senior, junior, senior,

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Speaker 1: and she pointedly references Stronger What Doesn't Kill You by

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Speaker 1: Kelly Clark, and so does Hillary Clinton. So you have

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Speaker 1: excited to have Ruby. Hell, oh my god, it's so

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming here and being here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Okay, Ruby, I

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Speaker 1: when people keep like referencing your age, I mean, like

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Speaker 1: So so like is in your comedy, in the comedy

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Speaker 1: I from my perspective looking back, I sometimes think to myself, like, wow,

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Speaker 1: how insane that a group of seventeen year olds were

428
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Speaker 1: asked their political opinions. However, I think what I'm actually

429
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Speaker 1: saying to myself is wow, how insane that a group

430
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Speaker 1: of seventeen year olds were so conservative? Because I went

431
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Speaker 1: to school is so like, what's it? What's it like

432
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Speaker 1: where you know, you'd think it was progressive, but it's

433
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Speaker 1: actually rather conservative. So what's it like right now? What's

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Speaker 1: the political climate right now in that class, in your

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Speaker 1: in your GOV class. Well, the thing is about I've

436
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Speaker 1: I'm growing up in New York, which is the most

437
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: liberal place you could possibly go to school, and then

438
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Speaker 1: you're going to LaGuardia, which is, which is even more liberal. Yeah,

439
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 1: Laguarty is a performing arts high school, so everyone at

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Speaker 1: the school has dyed hair. Everyone's very culturally aware, very

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Speaker 1: politically correct, like, you will get attacked if you say

442
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Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Ever, now with that being said, in

443
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Speaker 1: these ap GOV classes, it is rare that there will

444
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Speaker 1: ever be someone who is not a Democrat or doesn't

445
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 1: have very liberal democratic views. But what happens in these

446
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: classes is someone will say something in the wrong way,

447
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: something that it has clearly good intentions comes out is weird,

448
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: is worded wrong. They get attacked, like people go off

449
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: on them. I had a girl in my class today

450
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Speaker 1: talk about how we can't attack Trump supporters because then

451
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Speaker 1: we're stooping to their level and that they're people even

452
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Speaker 1: though they like have believe what they believe. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I like understood what she was saying. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I kind of agree in a way. But there were

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Speaker 1: some people in my class who were like, oh, so

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Speaker 1: you support racists, you support racism, like all this stuff,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, let's take a step back,

458
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Speaker 1: let's breathe a little bit, talk about something else. But

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00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: that's it's either it's so funny because teenagers now are

460
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Speaker 1: almost too politically correct, like we're so socially aware to

461
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Speaker 1: the point where it's like people don't even it doesn't

462
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Speaker 1: even seem like people want to be politically correct anymore

463
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: for the sake of actually being politically correct. People just

464
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: seem to really, yeah, people like want to be like, no,

465
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Speaker 1: I know more about feminism than you do. And it's like, Okay,

466
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: we're losing touch of actual activism. Because activism and if

467
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Speaker 1: you're actually not a racist, and if you're actually a feminist,

468
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Speaker 1: you want you just want equality. You want people to

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Speaker 1: just have good morals and be good people, which a

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Speaker 1: lot of people aren't, which is their thing. But people

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Speaker 1: get to a point where they just they start attacking

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Speaker 1: each other. And really, if we want activism, if we

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Speaker 1: want to make a change, we need to talk to

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Speaker 1: each other and have a conversation and be open minded

475
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Speaker 1: and be allowed to listen to each other's opinions and

476
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Speaker 1: take them in and have a calm, civilized conversation. But

477
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: now we're all so self righteous and so entitled to

478
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Speaker 1: our opinions that no one can seem to be able

479
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Speaker 1: to take in what anyone else is saying totally. I

480
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Speaker 1: mean it's so interesting that you say this, And because

481
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: I was talking to this good friend over the weekend.

482
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Speaker 1: We were taking a while in the park and he

483
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Speaker 1: is this sort of and I would say his name, um,

484
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: but he is he is this pretty like, you know, uh,

485
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: prolific sort of presence and like someone even call him

486
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Speaker 1: a social justice warrior, not even pejoratively, but just like

487
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Speaker 1: that's part of his like um on social media and

488
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Speaker 1: he's just he's just well known in that regard. And

489
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Speaker 1: he was he even realized and I means, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying his name because I feel like maybe this is

491
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Speaker 1: like a sort of a semi semi controversial thing to say,

492
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Speaker 1: but he was just like I feel like everyone is

493
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: just losing their minds, even on our side. Like he

494
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: was just at this pride event, uh in this and

495
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Speaker 1: in the small town, and then there was just a

496
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Speaker 1: group of like there's a group of sort of like

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Speaker 1: activists who were there who went up to him and

498
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: questioned him and they were like and it's just like

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Speaker 1: a normal pride event, talk like talking about like being

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Speaker 1: a person of color who's queer. And this group of

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00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: people go up to him and they're like and they're

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Speaker 1: just and what he notices that they're they're they're trying

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Speaker 1: to find their words, and they're these young people who

504
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: were just like struggling to be like to just figure

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Speaker 1: out what to say to him, to be like, so

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00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: how do they were like, how do you stay in

507
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: your lane? You know? Like how do you how do

508
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: you stay awoke but stay like you know, And they

509
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: were just sort of like pulling these these borrowed terms

510
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: or these past down terms, and it's like and I

511
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: think what this person realized was, Oh, everyone is a

512
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: little bit confused and a little bit frenzied because we're

513
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: all figuring this out as we go. Like everyone across

514
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: all age groups, across all like you know, political backgrounds, whatever, Um,

515
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: they're losing how to express themselves because I think we're

516
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: still figuring out how to and I think that that

517
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: applies to everybody well. Also, so much of what I

518
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Speaker 1: talked about in the book, and so much of what's

519
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: going to help my generation really make progress in activism

520
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: is having a voice and using that voice to your advantage.

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00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: But if people are afraid to use their voices because

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Speaker 1: they're afraid of getting attacked or being called aggressive or

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Speaker 1: any of these things. People aren't going to speak up

524
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Speaker 1: because they're afraid because they don't, they're afraid they're going

525
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: to be wrong or be politically incorrect. But the thing is,

526
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Speaker 1: if you're politically incorrect, let's have a conversation about it,

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00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: let's talk about it, we can, let's work it, let's

528
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: work through it together. But instead everyone has just converted

529
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Speaker 1: to this fear factor because everyone's so afraid of saying

530
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Speaker 1: the wrong thing, when really we should say the wrong thing,

531
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: get corrected, and then work our views out. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it seems to be a problem that you know, the

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Speaker 1: right wing doesn't have, because it seems like they are

534
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Speaker 1: able to just march in that like someone who's like

535
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: really happy, really proud to like put a Confederate flag

536
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: on their house can and and who doesn't maybe understand

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Speaker 1: what that means. We'll just proudly walk next to a

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Speaker 1: member of the literal KKK in the streets, and it

539
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: seems like nothing goes through their heads, and no one

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00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: else on their side is gonna be like, hey, that's

541
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: actually hey. Yeah, they're not going to call each other,

542
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: they're not having these discussions. They just mobilize and go

543
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: and it's I think a reason why they, for better

544
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: or worse, seem to get things done, whereas on our

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00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: side it feels like, you know, still to this day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with what Hilary says in her book about

547
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: Bernie and the way that the Bernie people are responding

548
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: to her even now, and the the the jumping down

549
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: on Kamala Harris before she can even be a candidate.

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00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: If feels like it's it's a huge reason why we

551
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: can't get things done is because it seems like it's

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00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: stopping conversation from happening totally. And the other thing is

553
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: like everything I'm saying is directed towards people who like

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00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: have the kind of views I have. Like, obviously, uh,

555
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: it's a very different conversation if we're talking about someone

556
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Speaker 1: who is actually a racist or actually a misogynistic person.

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Speaker 1: Everything I'm saying is I know a lot of people

558
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: who really want to be politically correct, but they just

559
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: don't have the information or the resources to understand what

560
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: that means, or what feminism really means, or what it

561
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Speaker 1: means to be a racist or not be a racist.

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Speaker 1: So everything I'm saying is directed towards the people who

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Speaker 1: actively want to be politically correct and be people who

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Speaker 1: have views that are progressive. The people who don't have

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00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: those views, that's another conversation, because those are people who

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Speaker 1: have been raised that way. They've been raised that way

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Speaker 1: the way I've been raised to be a feminist, and

568
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: you can't change me. If if someone came up to

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Speaker 1: me and calmly started to speak to me about being

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00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: a being anti feminism, being racist, I would obviously be like,

571
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: absolutely not, you psychopath. But in terms of making progress

572
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: on the liberal side of America, we can't make We

573
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: will only make progress if we do it together. And

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00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: if we're splitting each other up because some people are

575
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: more liberal than others, that's not progress. That is actually

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Speaker 1: going backwards. It's it's it's now. I do have another

577
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: question about your APO class. Y'all know you have a

578
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: test to take at the end of the year, right,

579
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. When they put that test in

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: front of us at the end of the year in

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00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, I looked down at that test. We

582
00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: hadn't talked about any of it come on that, but

583
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: we had so many conversations about whether it was going

584
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: to be Brock or Hillary, and like whether or not

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00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: like whether or not we should be pro choice, Like

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00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: like literally my teacher got us off one day and

587
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, everyone who's pro choice, get on

588
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: that side of everyone, and if we're on decided and

589
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: stay in the middle. He did this about issues and

590
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: then maybe the worst thing a teacher, he was not

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00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: good um and oftentimes, like I responded to one thing

592
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: in your book, you were talking about how you had

593
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: this teacher. This is in the book and this is

594
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: so fucked up. So so Ruby has this Actually you know,

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Speaker 1: do you have to take a break. Let me let

596
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: me say this tidbit and then we'll take a short break.

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00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: So a teacher of about thirty years old, you said, um,

598
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: was speaking with you and then recommended to you that

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00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: you not be too feminists because it comes off as unattractive. Yes, yes,

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00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: this happened. She also called me a dumb blonde for

601
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: two years, just so you all know. I'm a brunette.

602
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: But I was a child. And the thing is, like,

603
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: the thing is like these teachers are everywhere everywhere. I

604
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: mean I had them in my high school on Long Island,

605
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: like you had them in your liked New York New

606
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: York City middle school. New York City most progressive middle

607
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: school you could possibly go to. Don't be too much

608
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: of one of those feminists because it could be unattractive

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00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: or aggressive. Yeah. I was taking a woman's suffrage class

610
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Speaker 1: at the time, and she pulled me over and she

611
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, because that was like the social studies

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00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: course that I was taking. And she no, she was

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Speaker 1: like she was one of my teachers. That was one

614
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Speaker 1: of the teachers in my school. And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited because I'm taking this awesome woman suffrage class.

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Speaker 1: And she pulls me over and she's like, just say,

617
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, men really don't find feminists attractive.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna don't become one of those aggressive feminists, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, what, let me tell you. I

620
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: had a teacher at one time in high school. Um,

621
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: and we were we was just gotta say this, and

622
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: so listen. We were talking about and Culter, who was

623
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: literally the garbage of the that were earth. So she

624
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: had said something about how like all all the Jews

625
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: in the world needs to convert to Christianity, like like

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00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: you know, her whole m o, like she just was

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Speaker 1: going on about that, and I was talking about how

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Speaker 1: sick that was. And my teacher at the end of

629
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: class pulled me aside and he said to me, the

630
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: thing is, um, everyone does need to convert to Christianity

631
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: because then there won't be any more cancer in the

632
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Speaker 1: world and sickness. And I was looking in his eyes

633
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, you're like a religious like that.

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Speaker 1: You know that's against the law, right, I mean, it

635
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: was fully against the law, I said. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: how to handle it at the time, like I kind

637
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: of just like okay, and I left the room and

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Speaker 1: I think I ran down the hall. I was just like,

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Speaker 1: that was so freaking scary. That's shocking. And you know

640
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Speaker 1: what I mean, if there's any come up ins here,

641
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: both of both of those teachers are being put on

642
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: blast now and your teacher is being put on blast

643
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: in your book. So there you go. Oh my god.

644
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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about the book and we'll talk more

645
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: to Ruby Carp, who I'm so loving this converse, and

646
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: we will talk more right after this short brief abbreviated break. Okay,

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00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: jam and we're back with Ruby Carp. Now, Ruby, we

648
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Speaker 1: want to talk to you. We want to ask you

649
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: the question we ask all of our guests and we're

650
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: doing this in act two, which is great. Um, which

651
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: is Ruby? What is the culture that made you say?

652
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Culture is for me? This is the the culture that

653
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: made you decide to step in a cultural direction? You

654
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: said to yourself, Wow, I love media. I love film, music, television,

655
00:35:54,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: the stage, cultural life. What have you? What have you m?

656
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: It's a weird question. For me. It was definitely being

657
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: raised by a single mom, because the thing is, when

658
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: you're when you're, when you are Rory, Rory and Laura,

659
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: like Gilmore are, you are living a very different life

660
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: than basically everyone else. Because the thing is, I grew

661
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: up always being encouraged to talk about my feelings and

662
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: tell my mom everything that was happening in my life

663
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: and tell her every all the drama that was happening

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00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: and everyone that was being mean to me. So from

665
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: a very young age, I just I was open to talking,

666
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: and I was open to discussion and wanted to have

667
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: conversations with people and really learn about them because my

668
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: mom would do this thing where when I was little,

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Speaker 1: even though I would be talking about nothing, my mom

670
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: would just ask me about my day and let me

671
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: just talk for as long as I wanted, so that

672
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: from a really young age, she was always encouraging me

673
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: to express what I was thinking. That's such a great answer,

674
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: And then it's so gilmore girls and and because you're

675
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: because you're saying that, that made everything else all into

676
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: place for you, like your love of movies, um, you know, comedy,

677
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: everything else. Yeah, self expression in general too. Sometimes I

678
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: think maybe because there are two parents, when I'm asked

679
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: how my day was, it's like, well, it's a different

680
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: story at all. Yeah, because especially when I was younger,

681
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: it was like it was no matter what was happening,

682
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: was my mom and I against the world. Like my

683
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: mom was my best friend. Now it's like my roommate.

684
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: Like obviously she's still my mom. We fight all the time,

685
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: but now it's like we're sisters, like we know each

686
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: other so well to the point where it's like there's

687
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: no question of whether or not I'm telling her about

688
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: my day. She just knows everything and not. And the

689
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: thing is I tell her everything in that she trusts

690
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: me to have no curfew, to come home when I

691
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: want because she knows where I am because I'm telling

692
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: her what's happening. So the relationship we have is based

693
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: in trust, and you're very honest with her, And I'm

694
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: very honest with her because the thing is like, I'm

695
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: not a bad kid, so there's nothing I really need

696
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: to hide from her. And all of the things that

697
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing are teenage things. I go out with my friends,

698
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: I have fun nights, I go to the movies with people.

699
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: I write books, like all teenage things. And my mom also, like,

700
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, I work pretty hard and stuff, so my

701
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: mom lets me be rewarded with not being very lenient

702
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: about curfew and coming home and stuff like that, and

703
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: really having that sense of independence, having my own room,

704
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: really being my own person has made me who I

705
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: am because without that sense of independence and really learning

706
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: what it means to be alone but still have a

707
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: lot of love in my life has really just shaped

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00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: me as a person. That's beautiful. So you're you tell

709
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: me you're studying drama at LaGuardia, but acting is not

710
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: necessarily like the yeah, well for me, I just kind

711
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: of I feel like in terms of breakout start like

712
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: ales and stuff, I really I mean, I'm not going

713
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: to speak for the future because like I don't know

714
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, but I really I love writing,

715
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: and I also love television and really studying what people

716
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: react to and what works. And I feel like if

717
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to act and be on TV, it's going

718
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: to be my story or what I like, my character

719
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: that I'm writing for me, and that's the direction everything's

720
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: going in anyway. So you're what are you liking on TV? Now?

721
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: What shows are you liking? Well? I don't really watch

722
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: that much live television. I really watch a lot of Netflix.

723
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: So what have you been? Okay, So right now, in

724
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: the middle of Handmaid's Tale, it is crazy hands it

725
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: is I am so oh my god, so much is happening.

726
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: We're also discussing it in my home class right now

727
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: in school, which was so awesome. It's so awesome, right.

728
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: I wish I had done that. I always for that

729
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, Like you have a

730
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: class where we could? I mean in my apt class

731
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: one time, my Aplow teachers like exposed us to Stephen Sondheim.

732
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: We started talking about Sweeney Todd and then I went

733
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: to go see the movie and I was like, I

734
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: wanted I couldn't wait to come back to class talk

735
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: about it. I have a whole class about stuff like,

736
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's so great because we just

737
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: have conversations about all this stuff. It's so fun. But

738
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: I you know, I've been binging Parks and rec for

739
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: like the second time, the Office for like the fourth time. Uh,

740
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, Secret Guilty, Pleasure, Gossip Girl, Guilt More Girls,

741
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: all those. Weirdly, I like go in and out of

742
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy. Sometimes it's like it's back when it was

743
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: good exactly. I'm trying how I Met your Mother. I

744
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: just I'm trying everything that's on Netflix. So you really

745
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: are like trying to like broaden your skip like it

746
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: was really cute. We are trying to like get this

747
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: good media diet of stuff that's come that's that's not

748
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: necessarily of your time. And I'm not saying I'm just

749
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: saying that that's like that. It's like, yeah, like it

750
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: was on like when you were certain. It's like when

751
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: we watched like it nailed. But The Gray's Anatomy when

752
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: we were sixteen seventeen absolutely nailed me to the wall.

753
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: But that's because that was season two and three. Well

754
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: that's that's essentially like because for me, it's all about

755
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: finding my voice in terms of writing, because my voice

756
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: in terms of stand up comedy is very self deprecating,

757
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: like my humor is. My My view on humor is

758
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: why offend anyone else when you can just offend yourself?

759
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: Because everyone, especially now, everything's a trigger for people and

760
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: everything brings things up for people. So why make fun

761
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: of other people when you can just make fun of

762
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: yourself when there's no risk of And also it's just fun.

763
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: It's so it's so fun to just like laugh at

764
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: yourself and tell funny stories of things that happened to you.

765
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: But in terms of television, my I love My favorite

766
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: movies are like Francis Hall in Manhattan and Moon Rise

767
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: Kingdom and movies like that. And I really want to

768
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: one day find the media between Francis Hall and Parks

769
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: and Recreation. Oh great, specific good? Oh, I mean like yeah,

770
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: because that's like a crazy median that's like where do

771
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: you find that one? I mean, I love like I've

772
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: been watching Girls because I think the way it's done, directed, written,

773
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: everything about it is so exactly what I hope to

774
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: be one day. That's great, It's oh yeah. And because

775
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: the thing is, there are so few and that's why

776
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: master of None there are so few people making comedy

777
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: shows that are based in truth and based in real

778
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 1: things that the way real people actually are, And like, yeah,

779
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: there's this thing of like comedy aturs now on TV

780
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: and um, and I feel I feel like Girls I

781
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: get paved the way for the show. But in a sense,

782
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about Insecure and Secure. I

783
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: was going to suggest it to you. Have you started

784
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: watching Insecure. It's a show with Withsa Ray. It's based

785
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: on our web series called Awkward Black Girl. It's essentially

786
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: like I don't want to like dumb it down this way,

787
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: but it's essentially Girls in l a Like it's like

788
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: an all black cast. It's really really great. It feels

789
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: it feels like like what would you describe almost like

790
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: the second season feels a little bit like Sex in

791
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: the City, a little bit like there's just a lot

792
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: of love triangles. It's really fun to watch. It's um,

793
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: it's just it's yeah, it's one of them. I think

794
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: you really liked the show. It's also a really and

795
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of this you've experienced in

796
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: high school and stuff, but it's a really good examination

797
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: of what it means to be faithful and what happens

798
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: when someone cheats and the psychology of that. I just

799
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: think it's really good. And I actually tried to watch

800
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: it a year ago and I kind of didn't give

801
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: it a chance because I just didn't buy it totally.

802
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't on board. But I gave it a shot

803
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: and again like two or three days ago, and I

804
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: love it. And I've and all of this week and

805
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: I was binging through Atlanta and that another show. I

806
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: think it might be sort of the closest thing that's

807
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: in that liminal space between Frances Hat and um Parks

808
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: and Recki's head where it's like it's it's it's funny,

809
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: it's funny, it's observed. It's also like so so textured

810
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: and real in that way. I think you would love Atlanta.

811
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: It's like there's some like crazy fucking ship that happens

812
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: in the show. And but I think I think you

813
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: would love it. I think it's if you can handle

814
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Handmade's Tale, you can handle Atlanta. It's it's really really good,

815
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's like operating that space

816
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: that you kind of want to go for, yeah, exactly. Also,

817
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: like the new season of Master of none. I loved

818
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: because it tackled real life problems, both socially like politically

819
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: and stuff, but also just real moments like he was

820
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: freaking out about one girl and then ran into his

821
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend who he hadn't thought about in a while

822
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: on the street, because that's the thing that happens. You're

823
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: just like, you're freaking out about something and then you

824
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: run into someone who you totally don't expect to see

825
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: but I have thought about so much, Like those are

826
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: That's such a real moment, that's such a thing that happens,

827
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: especially in New York. I feel like that. I just

828
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: feel like there's so many moments in the show that

829
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: are so and like when he's freaking out about the

830
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: girl and then he starts writing a pros and consolist

831
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: and then he's like, wait, no, I like her, Like

832
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: there's nothing I can do about that, Like just like

833
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: little things like that that it's like the show is

834
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: so funny, but then there are so many moments where

835
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: he just lets the show get real. And I think

836
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: that for so long, a sitcom was like a funny

837
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: show where people make jokes and like sit around and

838
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: drink coffee. But like now we're finally realizing that comedy

839
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: is about truth, and comedy is based in reality, and

840
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: without that based reality, there's no comedy because there's thing

841
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: to make fun of. So I think the fact that

842
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: we're finally making shows that appreciate that and that like

843
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: really bring that out is such a big deal. That's

844
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: so cool that that that's that this stuff is resonating

845
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: with you especially and I'm sorry to bring up your

846
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: rage again, but your age, you know, it's like that.

847
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: But that's very encouraging, and you know, it's huge, it's huge,

848
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: it's huge, Thank you. It's such a good time for everybody,

849
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: but like especially for like people who are going to

850
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: be sort of you know, not defined by this by

851
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: this era, but like sort of it's going to text

852
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: urize there. Also, when you're seventeen and when you're a

853
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: teenager and young, you're feeling everything you're feeling for the

854
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: first time. So everything you're feeling is so intense because

855
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: we've never felt it before, which is why your first love,

856
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: your first heartbreak, your first everything resonates with you so

857
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: much because you've never experienced it before. So your emotions

858
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: are so heightened because you don't know how to deal

859
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: with it, and you become so impressionable with what you

860
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: consume media wise, because for me, Grey's Anatomy was like

861
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: the first show that like fucking blew my fucking mind.

862
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the best show I've ever

863
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: seen in my It was so crazy, and like now

864
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: looking back, it's like I have such a nostalgia for it,

865
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: but it's like it's no, no, no, I will say

866
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: the second season of it, the production value was way

867
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: higher than what they give it now. Now it's fucking

868
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Meredith Gray standing in front of a green screen and

869
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: she's like, it's great to be in front of a waterfall.

870
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: It's like they had they spend no money on it

871
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: now because didn't none other have to. Back in the day,

872
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: it was like remember that Nember, that fairy disaster, Oh

873
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: my god, that wasn't forget Yes, definitely, but like that

874
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: was like the last throws of them having a budgets

875
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: sucking moment. The fucking Code Black episode where there was

876
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: a literal explosion in the hallway and that was a

877
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: real explosion, and I was like, how about like two

878
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: people got stuck on a pole and one of them

879
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: had to die? Episode I ever watched it, like, this

880
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: show is amazing. Yeah, and that girl that that girl

881
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: should have wanted my to but didn't. Wait, I have

882
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: a question for you, Um, do you have a lot

883
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: of gay friends in high school? But I mean maybe

884
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: you don't. Maybe you would be surprised at how many

885
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: kids are straight at a performing arts school in the

886
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: drama department, because because you think they haven't come out yet,

887
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: or because you think they're legitimately straight, and right, I

888
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: think I think they're legitimately. Here's the thing. I I

889
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of gay friends because I went to

890
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Performing Arts Camp, which is so different than performing art

891
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: high school. Because the thing is about Performing art high

892
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: school is that a lot of these kids either aren't

893
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: out yet or honestly, because the thing is, it's not

894
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 1: that I don't talk to people or don't see people

895
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: outside of my department, but it's really hard to have

896
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: classes with people not in the same department as you,

897
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: so you don't really really mingle that much outside of

898
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: your department, and really in the drama department, especially in

899
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: my read, there's not that many kids who are out,

900
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: which is fine, which is totally okay performing arts camp,

901
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: though the ratio of straight boys too straight girls. Actually,

902
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: no ratio straight boys to not straight boys is zero

903
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: to one million. That's going to be frustrating for someone. Oh,

904
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,959
Speaker 1: you have no idea, You have no idea. I think

905
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: there were maybe maybe two straight boys at camp who

906
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're straight, but they weren't

907
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: even that attractive, and they got girls all summer because

908
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: they will continue to keep putting themselves in performing rule

909
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: number nineteen of culture. Straight boy going to arts camp

910
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: um um. But that's see. I ask you that because

911
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I feel like if I'm in high school and Rubies there,

912
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: I go befriend Ruby. Oh yeah, think that's how I feel.

913
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd be a great friend for a

914
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: gay kid. I mean, you're just You're just an interesting

915
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: female and honestly, like I mean, I mean I'm not

916
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: that's not saying that that's all it takes, but it's

917
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: like that you gravitate towards that. No. But I feel like,

918
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: also there's a lot of people in high school that

919
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: are like they're super smart and dynamic, but there that's

920
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: also closeted, you know what I mean, Like that's another

921
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: thing that stays inside when your closet. It's about your sexuality.

922
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: Is you also don't say how you feel and don't

923
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: say what you think. So it's just interesting to talk

924
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: to you and hear all all of this because I

925
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: think about myself at that age and I think, wow,

926
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: I was not even close to being ready to be

927
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: myself and say the things I thought. Well, the thing

928
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: that's hard about the high school is that people make

929
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: their friends and then they don't really feel the need

930
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: to go outside of those friends that they've made. Like

931
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: I really didn't find my group of friends until like

932
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: last year, and even then I don't really have a

933
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: specific group. I kind of just have friends that I

934
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: like who I hang out with, and like they're all

935
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: they all hang out with different people. The problem with

936
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: conversation is I don't say these things in class. The impression,

937
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: the impression people at school half of me is I

938
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: raised my hand all the time because I always have

939
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: something to say about whatever book we're reading or whatever

940
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: US government topic we're talking about. So people at my

941
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: school are like, oh, yeah, that girl, do want to

942
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: that the one the teacher's pet, when really, like I

943
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: could care less about what a teacher thinks of me.

944
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: I want to like have a conversation and like discuss

945
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: Handmaid's Tale and like really talk about Trump. But the

946
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: thing is everyone's so focused on seeming cool and not

947
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: seeming like they're too aggressive that when people get very

948
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: passionate about their points, everyone's like, oh, yeah, this guy again.

949
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: Making friends in high school, it's not that it's hard.

950
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: It's just difficult to make new friends outside of friends

951
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: you haven't had for a while, especially when you know

952
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: you feel like everyone has decided whoeveryone is already exactly

953
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: what I what I will you? You'll go to college?

954
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: I mean, where are you? Where do you want to go?

955
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm only applying to six schools. I'm applying early action,

956
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: which just means I'm applying early. It doesn't mean anything.

957
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: Um yeah, it's not really. I'm applying early to Emerson

958
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: for comedy because I have a comedy major, which is awesome. Yeah,

959
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: and it's in Boston. I can continue comedy and stuff

960
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. But I'm applying to Yale, Wesleyan, Columbia,

961
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: Columbia College, Chicago, Northwestern USC, and Emerson And that's it.

962
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: And don't worry. Um and college. I grew up at

963
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: I grew up in the city and I don't have

964
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: the money, go go to Emerson, go else. Okay, let's

965
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: pray I get in, guys, you will be fine. Wait, okay,

966
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: say those school again, because those are all pretty good

967
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: comedy college I want to be. I want to be

968
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: I want to be a comic. So, like I'm applying,

969
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: the thing is, there's no comedy major at schools other

970
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: than Emerson and Columbia College Chicago. So if I go

971
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: to scoop, everyone learned about my college future life. So

972
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm in a major in film. If for

973
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: those schools that I don't major, when did you go

974
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: to Emerson and see and everything already? Yeah? So you

975
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: toward and when you toward? What did they say? The

976
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: comedy curriculum is like like who teaches? They're like what, Yeah,

977
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: it's um, it's a sketch writing curriculum, so bit not

978
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: like not the whole thing, but basically, you have a

979
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: class in improv, youw class on history of comedy, of

980
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: a class on writer's room. They basically teach you everything

981
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: you need to know and help you craft a portfolio

982
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: to go into the real world and just pursue comedy.

983
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: There you go, hug. So basically, I went to school

984
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: for writing at n y U and you had to

985
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: fight to get into classes that were like that. And

986
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: I went to school for it and NYU and literally

987
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: major with a concentration in television writing at ny U

988
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: Tish dramatic writing, and I didn't even ever get to

989
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: take a light late night writing course because it was

990
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: competitive to get into and I was in the department

991
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: and I was alphabetical the way they decided who got

992
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: the classes that my name started with R. So yeah,

993
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: by all means you should totally go. Yeah. A lot

994
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: of people have been telling me mixed things about majoring

995
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: in something like comedy, because the thing is, I mean,

996
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: you can't learn comedy. You're either you are. You have

997
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: to either be. You have to learn it obviously, but

998
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: you comedy isn't a thing that you can take a

999
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: class and you have to learn it through doing it.

1000
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: You because you form your stand up act by trying

1001
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: get out on people. But at the same time you

1002
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: have to master your craft and you have your gaining

1003
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: so much practical yeah, exactly, And like you need to

1004
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: build a portfolio, you need to learn how to be

1005
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: an ensemble you need to learn how to not think

1006
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: you're the best person in the room. Like, there are

1007
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you need to learn. A

1008
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: lot of people have been like, no major in something else,

1009
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: you'll get material for your comedy. But I don't think

1010
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: it's about that. I think it's about really learning the

1011
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: format of writing and sketch writing and all of the

1012
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: different kinds of improv and teams and all of the

1013
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: different things that go into it to really go out

1014
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: into the world and be a formed like understanding comedians.

1015
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: There is an academic and classical training knowledge to it.

1016
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: There is a history of comedy. People who take who A,

1017
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: take theater b f as, they have to take history

1018
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: of acting. They have to learn all of that. Comedy

1019
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: is the same thing, just more concentrated. It just feels

1020
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: frivolous and you're like, oh, you don't have to do

1021
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: that comedy. It's actually there's gonna be a lot of

1022
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: commiss listening to this wishing that they could have gone

1023
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: to or could still go to Emerson. I mean, we

1024
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: have some Emerson alums who have been on the show

1025
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: that we're comedy pats. I don't know if comedy major

1026
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: is like literally a new thing. It literally started like

1027
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 1: a year or two. Yeah, that's but it's still so cool.

1028
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Like can you imagine going to one class and it's

1029
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: like sketchwriting and I have friends who are freshmen there

1030
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: and literally they were like yeah, or eight am tomorrow

1031
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: is called like why did the chicken costs? Across the road?

1032
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: And it's literally a joke writing class, and so I

1033
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: would I can't put a price tag on a fucking

1034
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: professor telling me or an adjunct whatever just being like, yeah,

1035
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 1: um learned to be humble you askhole, Like if someone

1036
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: had told me that, Like I don't know, just like

1037
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: way ahead of time, like what huge? Also someone being

1038
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, you don't need a spec script of Parks

1039
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: and Wreck. What you need is a writing example of

1040
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: your own ship, which we were still writing fucking rocks

1041
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: when we were in college. Yeah, it was like all

1042
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: about the specs, all about the specs for an existing show,

1043
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: and they don't look at that anymore. It's wild. Well

1044
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: it's also it's not even about because you can't you

1045
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: can't teach someone how to write. That's a natural thing.

1046
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: You have to do it, but you have to learn

1047
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: about who's done it. Before to find your own voice,

1048
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: because that's the thing. I used to want to go

1049
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: to college for writing. But the thing is, I don't

1050
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: think anyone can teach you how to write. It's just

1051
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: about learning the formats and then finding who you are

1052
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: through that. God, that sounds so like weird. All the

1053
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: all the reviews of my book have been like great book,

1054
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: cliche person, And I've been like, you, my god, well

1055
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 1: because yeah, well all the reviews have been like three

1056
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: point five or four out of five stars because they've

1057
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: been like, sometimes the book gets a little cliche, and

1058
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's an inspiring book, what do you expect?

1059
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: And and I was six when I wrote it. That's

1060
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: not cliche, all you fucking jack, That's what I would

1061
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: have said. Oh my god, I'm that's stupid. So you've

1062
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: decided to read the reviews. Oh here's the thing. I

1063
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: am a people please or I literally have a heart

1064
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: attack when people are mad at me or don't like me,

1065
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: which is awesome because I want to go into the entertainment,

1066
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: which is maybe the worst pre place to be for

1067
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: someone like me. But that's okay. It's awesome that I'm

1068
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,959
Speaker 1: a very very very sensitive person. Like I will hold

1069
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: onto grudges. I will remember everything. I have done a

1070
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: lot of cool things in my life. I only remember

1071
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: the times that I've messed them up, of course. And

1072
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: you know what, this is just something that you will

1073
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: also learn that maybe they'll teach you in college. Is

1074
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: that like just that that is something that you just

1075
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: steal yourself against, Like like I would say in the

1076
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: same way as you really in that in that basic

1077
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: way maybe and that is too. But like we've had

1078
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: to learn, like don't read the comments, like it doesn't

1079
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: I learned that the hard way when I was literally thirteen.

1080
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: I mean because I wrote I wrote an article for

1081
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: mash double when I was thirteen about how teens aren't

1082
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: using Facebook anymore and I literally like kind of got

1083
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: death threats and it was like it was awful, And

1084
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: I would read all the comments because like no one

1085
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: told me not to. And then Tommy Gevinson, I was

1086
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: like I was interviewing her. We we used to both

1087
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: like being in the Hello Giggles world, so like we

1088
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: know each other, and I was talking to her on

1089
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: like a panel once and she was like you can't

1090
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: do that. She was like she was like it will

1091
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: kill you. And the thing is like I read the

1092
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: reviews because I want to know what my friends are

1093
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: seeing when they look up the books, you know what

1094
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean. Because the thing is like I don't really

1095
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: care about the reviews, but I care about my friends

1096
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: being like, oh, yeah, the books not even that good

1097
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: because that that sounds awful and like I shouldn't think that,

1098
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: but like I do because I'm still in high school.

1099
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: Like it's not like I wrote the book and now

1100
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm off, Like it's like, no, I'm still in school.

1101
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: Every day. I have to go home right now and

1102
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: do my ap government home or I have like I'm

1103
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: still a student, and like people follow me on Instagram

1104
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: and I'll go to parties and I'll see people and

1105
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: they'll be like, hey, you're publishing a book, right, And

1106
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, let's die now. Well

1107
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: that won't go ah wait either. You're always gonna want

1108
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: to be in the know. You're never gonna want people

1109
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: to like know things about you that you don't know exactly.

1110
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: And the thing is like reviews hurt a lot because

1111
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I'll read them and I'll be like,

1112
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: do you understand that I spent a year of my life,

1113
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: like putting everything I had and like all of my

1114
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: personal stories, because if you read the book, like it's

1115
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: very personal, it's about the common teenager. But I I

1116
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: said to myself before I started writing the book, there

1117
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: was no way I can write a book about all

1118
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: teenagers and not talk about my personal self experiences. Because

1119
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: I say this in the first chapter, I'm so sorry.

1120
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 1: I I'm not a girl who likes girls. I'm not

1121
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: a boy who likes boys or a boy who likes girls.

1122
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: I can only tell you what I've been through, and

1123
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: I can only tell you my personal experiences. So I

1124
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: use what I've gone through to just help people get

1125
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: through what they're going through. I can't know what it's

1126
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: like to live in a household where there's five people,

1127
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: and I've grown up with just my mom. The family

1128
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: chapter was the hardest chapter I had to write because

1129
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: I had no idea how to relate to people who

1130
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: didn't have relationships with their parents, but also people who

1131
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: had dads who were present, people who had siblings. I

1132
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: had no idea what to do. And then the way

1133
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: I figured out was just like talk about me, talk

1134
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: about what I've been through and how I got through

1135
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: it and be honest with that. And then on the

1136
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: flip side of that, it's like, just like how you feel, like, well,

1137
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 1: there's no way I can speak to all of these

1138
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: different experiences, Like I mean there there is some onus

1139
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: on the reader to be to just be open minded

1140
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: and accept your experience is something that they should hear

1141
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: about because they should and so like yeah, I god,

1142
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: I yeah, we fully hear you. And like, I think

1143
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: it's super cool. And I encourage I've I've read quite

1144
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: a bit of it today. Um, I really encourage everyone

1145
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: that's listening to preorder the book. Um, earth hates Me?

1146
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: What does the title mean to you? Earth hates Me?

1147
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: So originally the book was titled Braddy, which is my

1148
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: mom's nickname for me growing up. But then in one

1149
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: of my chapters, I write and I and in the

1150
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: heartbreak chapter, I was like, sometimes I wake up and

1151
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: I feel like the earth hates me because everyone hate them.

1152
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm like me going on some stupid brant. And then

1153
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: the woman who is the book cover designer was reading

1154
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 1: through the book to get a sense of the book

1155
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: so that she could figure out what the design was

1156
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: going to be, and she was like, hey, I know

1157
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: you like the title you came up with, but what

1158
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: do you think of Earth Hates Me? It was a

1159
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: line in one of your chapters, and I really think

1160
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: it's funny. And I was like, oh my god, that

1161
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: is so my book. It's self deprecating, which is exactly

1162
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: my humor and basically is the whole book. And also

1163
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: it's exactly what every teenager feels like, Oh yeah, but

1164
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: it's so funny and specific to that sentiment at that age,

1165
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's a fantastic title. Well,

1166
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: you should all pre order the book Earth Hates Me.

1167
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: It is installed, whereas on October three, Earth Hates Me.

1168
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: True Confessions from a Teenage Girl. It is super great,

1169
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 1: and I think it's really really cool to, like you said,

1170
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: here a perspective from someone that is your age on

1171
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: this stuff, and it's nice to check in and understand that,

1172
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: like you know, they're having the discussions to about what

1173
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: it means to be, what the word cis gendered means,

1174
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, these things aren't just

1175
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: exclusive to and I think in the millennial generation we

1176
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: get kind of wrapped up in ourselves. These aren't conversations

1177
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: that we're only having it's a worldwide discussion and it's

1178
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: super exciting and the book is awesome. Um let's move

1179
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: on to I don't think so, honey, So Ruby, I

1180
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: explained this to you a little bit. So this is

1181
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's funny. This is our segment where

1182
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: we take one minute to rail against culture. We've done

1183
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: a live show with this. We'll have to have you

1184
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: on the next one. We'll make sure it's a venue

1185
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: we can get you into. That's some shade, will be

1186
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: like and that's the at Um people. But yes, we

1187
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: will get you in the next live show. Thank you.

1188
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: So basically it's cla I don't think so, honey, we

1189
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: take do you have one say? The silence is deafening anyway,

1190
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, we take one minute to rail against something

1191
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: in culture. I loved, um, I loved what I do

1192
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: you had before. I don't know maybe it's changed. But

1193
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: we're going to go one by one. Bang would you

1194
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: like to start? How one ready to you? I guess

1195
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: I could do one? Okay, alright, let me let me

1196
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: let me get the timer for you. Um, here we go,

1197
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, what aving to do it? Okay, I'm gonna

1198
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: do it. It's gonna be on theme for this episode,

1199
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: so we're just gonna repeat I don't think so, honey,

1200
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: as many times as possible as we as we eviscerate

1201
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: this topic. This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey.

1202
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: Time starts new. I don't think so, honey. Almost all

1203
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: of the teachers from my high school. I'm putting you

1204
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: all on blast. Mr Brown, you only wanted to be

1205
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: our friends. I'm sorry it government. Mr Brown. You had

1206
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: a test and preparis for and you just reveled in

1207
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: watching everyone tear each other apart. And you know what,

1208
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: you were the tennis coach and you did nothing. I

1209
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: don't think Mr Brown, I don't think so, honey. Mr Riley,

1210
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: my tech teacher who engaged in a Facebook comment fight

1211
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: right before the election and posed the election with my friends,

1212
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: and then you got into a huge fight and you

1213
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: are not on the right side. I don't think so, honey,

1214
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: Mr Riley. And also, I believed in you, and you

1215
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: abandoned me senior year when I needed you as my

1216
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: track coach, and I had a shitty track coach my

1217
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: senior year. I don't think so, honey. You Mr Riley,

1218
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Mr Rozani, who was my

1219
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: cross country coach in high school, you tried to use

1220
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: me for political reasons that I can't remember, but I

1221
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: remember that it wasn't good. I don't think so, honey.

1222
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: Um five seconds? Uh, this one miss the woman who

1223
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: ran the education department and English department who took the

1224
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 1: job away from my ap let teacher because she didn't

1225
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: show enough movies. Mannet. That is I don't make, honey,

1226
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: high school teachers power plays. You have, no These teachers

1227
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: use abuse their power. Yes they do. And also it's

1228
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: like house of cards. They try to mar and manipulate.

1229
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: Boy who cares whatever it means to you? Oh well,

1230
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: it means to me that they're trying to double cross

1231
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: because I remember that we had like a student student

1232
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: union president that was one of the teachers and teachers

1233
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: in the school and then to gain his favor, like

1234
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: teachers would do shady things. And I was like, this

1235
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: is not about the students. And when you're a senior

1236
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: and you come of age, you know that's true. Okay,

1237
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: I think I think I think we're sticking to a

1238
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: theme here. Okay, are you going for it? I'm going

1239
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, I'm gonna stick. I'm gonna focus

1240
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: on one. Okay, here we go, Okay, bow and Yang.

1241
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't

1242
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Dr Peggy Lane, who insisted on her

1243
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 1: calling on us, her students calling her doctor Lane because yeah, cool,

1244
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: she had her PhD in English literature or whatever the funck.

1245
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 1: But she kept lording it over us and making and

1246
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: and you know what, here's what she did, talk about

1247
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: power place. She politicized the entire class. Because here, here's

1248
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: what she did. She would always every class say, Maria Celeski,

1249
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: she's superior, guys, you gotta follow her example. She's writing

1250
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: these really cogent arguments about stying, beck fucking who knows what.

1251
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: And she made us feel bad. She shamed us in

1252
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: class for not reading the books, which maybe she should

1253
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: have shamed us for anyway, who who knows? But I

1254
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: don't think so many doctor Lane. She talked like a

1255
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: fucking cartoon mouse and she was. She was ridiculous, and

1256
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: I just everyone hated her, and she intimidated all of

1257
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: her students. That is not the nurturing environment that you

1258
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: should be fostering. In your schools, in a public school,

1259
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Only doctor Lane, Oh my god,

1260
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: I have a lot of pent uppers for her, and

1261
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: I do. I wish her well. But she she was

1262
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: ultimately a benevolent force. But also the way she went

1263
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: about things was pit her students against each other. And

1264
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't like that. You. I don't think so, honey,

1265
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: A woman who had a doctorate and only wanted the

1266
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 1: respect that she was owed and you, But was she

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Speaker 1: never even shame? Was she that? Because my mom, my mom,

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Speaker 1: fucking she has her doctorate and she doesn't. My same

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Speaker 1: goes from my dad. I call her doctor, I call

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Speaker 1: her on the phone, everything. But she wouldn't care if

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Speaker 1: you didn't. And that's my point. Some people demand respect

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Speaker 1: when it's not necessarily totally earned as it there. That's

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Speaker 1: rule number one earned that fat coined by one Ruby

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Speaker 1: carp Thank you Ruby, And I want to throw one

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Speaker 1: more teacher under the bus. Mr Holdsworth used to make

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Speaker 1: the quote unquote cute girls sit in the princess chair.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, whenever a girl was are illegal at that school, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would make them sit in the princess chair. And

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Speaker 1: then our principal, Dr Aileen Rossman. Dr Rome came to

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Speaker 1: our came to our classroom one day and said that

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Speaker 1: had to stop. And you know what it did, and

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01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: it did stop. And teachers of the world, if you

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Speaker 1: are isolating female students and putting them in a chair

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Speaker 1: in front of the room, sorry, I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 1: Now it seems like Ruby is ready to go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is I don't think so, honey, Ruby car time starts. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. College application, Yes, excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the s a T. Thank you for defining my intelligence

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Speaker 1: based off of a singular test. What happens? My test

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Speaker 1: is seven hours long because I have anxiety, so I

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Speaker 1: get seven hours of the s a T. Excuse me,

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Speaker 1: no calculator section? Are you kidding? I'm defining who I

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Speaker 1: am based off of my math grades, based off of

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Speaker 1: a six D fifty word essay about who I am.

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Speaker 1: You don't even know me. Please define my intelligence, Harvard.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen the movie The Hunting Ground? You suck, Harrid.

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Speaker 1: How how are you supposed to define how I am

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Speaker 1: as a writer based off of how I analyze an

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Speaker 1: s a T? Say? Are you kidding me? Authors who

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01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: have written sa T articles have tried to take the

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Speaker 1: sa T about their articles and failed. The is correct

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Speaker 1: and as well as the college process. There you go,

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Speaker 1: oh one minute, I think now they'll stop doing it.

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Speaker 1: They'll stop administering it because of me, because of my

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. All it takes is one

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01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: voice to take down the college board. They let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something that isn't just a money making machine.

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Speaker 1: They all they care about is money. That's all it is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a money making machine. And the thing is, I like,

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Speaker 1: I consider myself a pretty intelligent person. But the thing is,

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Speaker 1: because everything now in education is memorization and test taking.

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Speaker 1: It's not education, it's just memorization. And then colleges are

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Speaker 1: seeing my scores and my grades which is like a

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Speaker 1: ninety average and like a hundred, which to Yale is

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Speaker 1: not enough. And the thing is, it's like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: what if during high school I published a book, I

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Speaker 1: did a comedy show, but you know what that that's

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01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: not enough for those schools because my grades and my

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Speaker 1: scores don't define them. But take the a C. That's no,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't. I well that. But also I

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Speaker 1: have anxiety, so I need extra time on tests or

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Speaker 1: I will fail, and the A c T denied me

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Speaker 1: extra times because they didn't believe I actually had anxiety.

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Speaker 1: A week before they test, they revoked my extra time

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Speaker 1: because they were like, you're lying about having anxiety and

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Speaker 1: I was like, what hey a c T um we

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Speaker 1: hear last culturest just believe women. And when they say

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Speaker 1: they have anxiety issues around testing, when you like me

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Speaker 1: to have a panic attack in front of you, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. I run a note

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Speaker 1: from my therapist like I didn't understand what it would take. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh my god, that's but I say

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Speaker 1: I recommended because it's it's actual test based on comprehensive

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Speaker 1: knowledge and not just supposed to take the S A

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Speaker 1: T which is a game. Yeah, a week I was.

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Speaker 1: I studied for the A c T all year. A

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Speaker 1: week before the test, they sent me a letter that

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Speaker 1: was sorry, you're not You can't have extra time and

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Speaker 1: I literally can't take the test without it, or I

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Speaker 1: like legitimately would fail. Oh my god, that sucks. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you something. I got a perfect score in

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Speaker 1: the A C T. Oh my god, because it's a

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Speaker 1: bullshit exam and you're not missing anything. And if I

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Speaker 1: could get a perfect score on that, look I got

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Speaker 1: thirty one. I thought it was a champion. But look here,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Really, all the tiff about you publishing

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Speaker 1: a book, about you performing, about you doing all these amazing,

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Speaker 1: incredible things that goes in the personal statement, and you're fine.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I think you'll be fine. I also I

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Speaker 1: hope that you'll be a fool if you don't take

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Speaker 1: a Ruby carp. I don't think so, honey, don't even

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Speaker 1: think about trying to come on. Last culture Emerson College,

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Speaker 1: the entire faculty of Emerson, and they're all. They're all.

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Speaker 1: They've all been emailing. UM, okay, so this has been

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Speaker 1: so fun. You guys the second Monday of every month,

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01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: told your ass over to UCB East and you check out. Um,

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Speaker 1: we hope you have fun. Which is the stand up

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Speaker 1: show hosted by a Ruby, and pre order Earth Hates

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Speaker 1: Me Now, which is in stores on October three. Ruby,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for doing the show. Thank you

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: so much for having We are huge fans, um, and

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Speaker 1: we hope we've made other fans out of our listeners.

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Speaker 1: And um, my name is Bown Yang my name is

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Speaker 1: Smith Black Smith Black, that's Ruby carp. This has been

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Speaker 1: a Forever DO production, Executive produced by Joe Cilio, Alex Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: and Brett Bone. For more podcasts, please visit Trevor Dog

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