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Speaker 1: the Colin Coward Podcast. My buddy, former NFL scout John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff has some thoughts than Chad Millman on the tournament

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Speaker 1: make you some money. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 1: I've got some thoughts on the wild overreaction by Steve

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Speaker 1: Kerr on one of his comments on a podcast that

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Speaker 1: got tweeted out. Lord, have the Warriors lost their way?

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Speaker 1: There is nothing more popular in entertainment right now than nostalgia.

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Speaker 1: Disney made the Lion King in Aladdin. The streaming service

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Speaker 1: Peacock built their entire library around the office. The Last

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Speaker 1: Dance was like a ten part in nostalgia drug looking

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Speaker 1: back as fun and easy, and it works in entertainment.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work in sports and specifically the NBA. In

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Speaker 1: the past twenty four hours, Steve Kerr was upset about

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Speaker 1: his comments on the twenty nineteen Warriors dynasty being taken

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Speaker 1: out of context. Draymond Greene called himself the greatest defensive

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Speaker 1: player in league history. In both instances, they're focused on

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Speaker 1: the wrong thing. The Warriors might have been our most

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Speaker 1: recent dynasty, but to remain an elite organization, stop looking back.

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Speaker 1: I mean KD left for the least relevant team in

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Speaker 1: and Steph might have been the face of the All

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Speaker 1: Star weekend, but he's no longer the face of the league.

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Speaker 1: And Steve Kerr is concerned with his comment on a podcast,

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Speaker 1: the real concern or Stephen Clay's injuries piling up and

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline and landing the next free agent. Worry

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Speaker 1: less about your hurt feelings and more about your hurt ligaments.

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Speaker 1: Worry less about your place in history and more about

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Speaker 1: your place in the Western Conference standings. The Warriors dynasty

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Speaker 1: will make for a great nostalgic documentary someday. I'll watch it,

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Speaker 1: so will you. But if the Warriors want to watch

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Speaker 1: another championship parade, start looking forward. Steve Kerr, who cares

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Speaker 1: about a podcast and comments about Katie speaking of the

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Speaker 1: Bay Area and the Steve Kerr meltdown. I'll get to

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Speaker 1: that in a bit with my buddy John Middlcoff, who

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Speaker 1: lives in the Bay Area, former NFL scout. You've heard

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Speaker 1: him on the Three and Out podcast on the Herd Network.

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Speaker 1: We like to bring him over from time to time

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Speaker 1: We're having fun here. I hope you join us. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with this. Can you explain to me the Sam

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and Andy Dalton get gigs? We know the Niners

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Speaker 1: lack of interest in Sam Darnold or is this just

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Speaker 1: the Jets undecided on his future? Yeah? I think it's that, Colin,

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Speaker 1: because you can't pay Andy Dalton ten million dollars. You can't.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Fitzpatrick thing you just there gets to

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Speaker 1: bird in the hand right because Sam Darnold, they have

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Speaker 1: an entirely new coaching staff, and I think a lot

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Speaker 1: other coach screwed them up. And it wasn't that long

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Speaker 1: ago when Sam was a no brainer. Remember it was

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Speaker 1: kind of shocking when Baker Mayfield went one A long

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Speaker 1: Darnold was throwing and he still went thorough were all,

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Speaker 1: but he's twenty three years old. I do think you

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Speaker 1: another player. I mean that that team is terrible. I

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Speaker 1: of Sam who probably doesn't have as much value as

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Speaker 1: he probably should, and then you're taking a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: we know quarterbacks as bust, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: My knock on Zach Wilson, his size, he looks thin,

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Speaker 1: I just I find it curious. On Sam Darnold. I

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Speaker 1: you be a little shy on Dave Gettleman rolling out

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Speaker 1: He traded for Leonard Williams, and then they resurrected his

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Speaker 1: younger al Sean. He's not fast, catches a lot of

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Speaker 1: contested balls. He's a productive player. But forty million dollars Colin,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just maybe don't think straight sometimes in

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Speaker 1: free agency, because it felt very anti Gettleman, didn't it. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I feel like Gettleman feels like

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Speaker 1: I do feel like Daniel Jones in that division Listen Baker.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones by Thanksgiving, John, We're gonna know what they

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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, Kyle Rudolph Slayton's a deep threat, Stirling Shepherd's

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Speaker 1: of feel like Daniel Jones has like twenty five twenty

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Speaker 1: you've got Armstead's contract, Kittle contract, Trent's contract, a Bosa contract.

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Speaker 1: Now we know Garoppolo's not the future, like that's that's

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Speaker 1: I know Russell Wilson. I think they feel that Pete's unchecked.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's the feeling he's unchecked. If I

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Speaker 1: wanted to defend Pete, I would say that I think

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Speaker 1: there's feeling in the league, and definitely in out of that.

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Speaker 1: Russell is the same, right his ego and his view

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Speaker 1: of himself. He views himself as Tom Brady junior, and

428
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 1: they go, oh, we don't quite view you that way,

429
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Speaker 1: even though he's paid that way, and he's a fantastic player.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Famer, but I think

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Speaker 1: I think both of them just need a situation to

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Speaker 1: be mediated. But that's just not going to happen. That

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00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: that individual, that human doesn't exist to do it. So

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00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 1: at this point in time, once the guy wants out,

435
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: Pete clearly views his skill set he doesn't need it all,

436
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: and ideally when he hires the Rams guys, he doesn't

437
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: want a quarterback throwing forty five touchdowns. He wants to

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Speaker 1: run the football because at Pete's corps, that's when he

439
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: won at USC and that's when they first won big

440
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: playing defense and running the football, when Russell first got there.

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Speaker 1: So Pete's defense is Russell. Every time I've won big,

442
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 1: and you were part of one of them was when

443
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Speaker 1: you were under control, when we've acquiesced to you. Look

444
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Speaker 1: at this year kind of follows apart as the season

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Speaker 1: goes on, and I think in fair if, like if

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Speaker 1: I was speaking to Russell, I'd say, I think you

447
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Speaker 1: and he just kind of meet in the middle. You're

448
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Speaker 1: probably not clearly you're better than I think sometimes Pete

449
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: puts the cages around you. But I also think when

450
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: most people in the league, Like, when they see that

451
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: you want to throw it fifty times in the game,

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Speaker 1: that's advantage them. You know, there has to be some

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Speaker 1: balance to it. But I think with the stardom and

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Speaker 1: the money, I think it's hard to get either guy

455
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Speaker 1: to kind of meet in the middle. That's why I

456
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: think it's just kind of over So we both think

457
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: the Giants overspent on a door Jackson and probably overspent

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Speaker 1: on free agency. Is there a team to you, John

459
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: that quietly had a really good free agency period, a

460
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: little underrated? You know, I know this team was not

461
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Speaker 1: underrated at all, but Belichick did not spend huge money

462
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Speaker 1: on all these individuals. Now, the total was big, but

463
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Speaker 1: he did not give any of these guys fifty sixty

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. When you really look at the sums

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Speaker 1: of guaranteed money, at most, it's like two year contracts

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Speaker 1: with all these guys. Yeah. Now, the one thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me, and I mentioned this on the

468
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Speaker 1: Three and Out podcast, I saw Robert Kraft talk to

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Speaker 1: Peter King, he talked to Albert Breer. He used this

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Speaker 1: term multiple times, and he's not wrong, But you just

471
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: don't see owners talking like this. He's like I've never

472
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: had to come up with this much capital, and last

473
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Speaker 1: year was a disaster, and then this year Belichick, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of back against the wall, gets them to spend

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Speaker 1: all this money. I'm not saying Belichick is going to

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Speaker 1: get fired or anything, but I do just wonder in

477
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: the history of the league, Tom Landry got fired once

478
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: upon a time, like great coaches either retire or get fired.

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Speaker 1: There's no just like I just in Belichick's probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna go quiet. What if this doesn't work? What if

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Speaker 1: they now I think he's such a good coach. Last

482
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Speaker 1: year the quarterback situation was bad. Name won seven games,

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Speaker 1: So it's very unlikely like they're going to be competitive.

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Speaker 1: But what if, just for the whatever reasons, some guys

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Speaker 1: get hurt, maybe the message doesn't work resonate with these players.

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Speaker 1: What if they go seven and ten because they got

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Speaker 1: that added game this year? Like does Robert Kraft go,

488
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Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Right? Like we're just kind

489
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: of a vision list? He even mentioned I think he

490
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: told Albert Brewer this. We always in this building used

491
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 1: to laugh at the teams that made marchead lines, and

492
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: who was they made the March headlines this year? So

493
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: Belichick pivoted. Now in his mind, he'd go, well, we

494
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: didn't give Trent Williams money to any player, and he's right.

495
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Speaker 1: But Robert is right. I've never had to pay this

496
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Speaker 1: type cash. I had to come up because way the

497
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: NFL works, you have to put it in escrow. Yeah right,

498
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: It's not like Steph Curry signs that two hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars deal. You just pay as you go. In football,

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Speaker 1: if you're guaranteed money's thirty million dollars, I gotta have

501
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: thirty That's always always the people questioned whether the Raiders

502
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Speaker 1: have the cash. You have to have the guaranteed money

503
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Speaker 1: on the moment the guy signed and put it away.

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Speaker 1: Then anequated. Way, But it's the way the NFL works.

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Speaker 1: And I just when you hear Robert Kraft talk like this,

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Speaker 1: you just wonder like maybe he spoiled. I mean, they've

507
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Speaker 1: been winning for twenty years and now he's spending huge money.

508
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: They've always been able to win and not spend huge cash. Right,

509
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Speaker 1: How great that is. It's been one of the best

510
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Speaker 1: business models probably in America. Yeah, somebody to keep an

511
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Speaker 1: eye on though. Just that just wholes it. Just Belichick,

512
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Speaker 1: he's older. You know what if they don't win middlecuff,

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Speaker 1: you're so good. You've got so many good sources. Love

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Speaker 1: this all right, folks. His name is John mill cough

515
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Speaker 1: By the way. A couple of minutes, Steve Kerr melts

516
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Speaker 1: down on a podcast in which he acknowledged last year

517
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: was fun. Last year the championship wasn't it gets posted

518
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Speaker 1: or tweeted. He melts down. I'm kind of shocked, Like Steve,

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00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: I listen to the podcast. It's what you said. Is

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00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: he that up tight? Is it? Is it Lake up

521
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: the owner putting heat on him. Yeah. I think he's

522
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: taken a lot of heat lately for these positive comments,

523
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Speaker 1: like last year was a disaster. You didn't develop anybody.

524
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Speaker 1: Wiseman wasn't on the team. People are kind of down

525
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: on Steve Kerr around here. I think people have just

526
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: been very, very hard since Kevin Durant left. Here's another

527
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: reality And you said that he's walking on. Kevin Durant

528
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: did not like Steve Kerr. They were not on good terms.

529
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Speaker 1: That Kevin Durant was not a big Steve Kerr guy,

530
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: like that was his It wasn't He didn't have a

531
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: problem with Bob Meyers or Steph Kurry or even Draymond.

532
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 1: It was Steve was his main thing. Here's I had

533
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: a guy tell me, I think through you, people find

534
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: out about me and reach out. And I've gotten to

535
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: know a guy that's very close with one of the

536
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: top five players in this upcoming draft. And obviously this

537
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: NBA draft is loaded with these three or four guys

538
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: that are dwed as you know, number one picks in

539
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: any draft. And I was texting up and said, you know,

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00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: the Warriors might get the fourth pick. Wouldn't it be

541
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: sweet for your guy to go play with Steph Clay

542
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: and Draymond. He's like, no, oh, my guy to go

543
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: to Houston or Detroit. I'm like, why would you want

544
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: to go there? He's like, you see what Steve Kerrs

545
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: doing to Wiseman because these guys, like all those guys

546
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: played with. Wiseman's season has not been great. And you know,

547
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr around here gets a lot of heat from

548
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: these diehard fans that they became like the forty nine

549
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: ers right in such a big deal that so many

550
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: people consume Warriors games that he's kind of consumed like

551
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: an NFL team around here, and people think that he's

552
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: screwing up these younger players. And I just you know, Steve,

553
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: it's probably a little like Joe Torrey or something. He's

554
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: great with big personalities. What he did was in rest.

555
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: But a lot of people go, well, could Colin Coward

556
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: coach Aaron Donald right? Could John Middlecoff coach Kevin Durant?

557
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: Like probably, let's you know, it's obviously he's a basketball guy.

558
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: And Michael Jordan liked him and Phil Jackson liked him.

559
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: But that comment to Steve Kerr is pretty politically outspoken,

560
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: and he was big on Donald Trump being a bully,

561
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bully move to drop the

562
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: guy's name, Drew Schiller is not some random The guy

563
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: played basketball at Stanford, you know. That's that's the guy

564
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: that tweeted that was a basketball player at Stanford. So

565
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: it's not some nobody. And like you said, listen to

566
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: the podcast, Steve, you said last year was good vibes,

567
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: no question. You won like three games. You won three

568
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: games and quit the season and refuse to go to

569
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: the bubble like that happened? Bad, bad, Look, I thought, yeah,

570
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: so did I? All right, buddy, great talking to you.

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Speaker 1: Nothing but information with John Middlecoff. Thanks man via Colin

572
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: all Right, how great is Middlecoff? He is one of

573
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: the most connected people I have ever met. He knows

574
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: every scout and everybody tough act to follow. But Chad

575
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: Mellman of the Action Network's gonna do it? Baby? What

576
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: a crazy Melman, what a nutty march madness. So let

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Speaker 1: me let me start with this. The books are the public,

578
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: I would guess, because dogs are covering that the books

579
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: are loving this. The books have loved this tournament, am

580
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: I right? It has been a phenomenally good tournament because

581
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: up until yesterday, when it felt like the favorites were

582
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: covering for the entire day, I think there had been

583
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Speaker 1: nineteen straight up wins by underdogs. That is the most

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00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: in twenty years through the first three days of the tournament,

585
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: so one hundred percent I'm looking at it now, nineteen

586
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: and twenty four through before yesterday began. So yeah, a massive,

587
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: massive win for books, massive massive wind. Usually what that

588
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: means is massive wins for professional betters because they tend

589
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: to like to bet underdogs. And we actually talked about

590
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: this in the podcast last week. Ohio, Abilene Christian UCSB

591
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: didn't win but UCSB covered Oral Roberts. You know, these

592
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: were the teams that a lot of professional betters were

593
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: talking about before the tournament began. It's interesting the Pac

594
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Speaker 1: twelves had about a four year stretch of underwhelming and

595
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: football and basketball and then they just catch fire in

596
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: the tournament. Is there an explanation for it? Or is

597
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 1: it random? It's gotta be random. There can't be an

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Speaker 1: explanation because the flip side is look at the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: The Big Ten went through and this was there's two

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00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: answers here. The Big Ten goes through a conference year

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00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: in which they are battle tested, and it's Michigan and

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00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Illinois and Perdue and Wisconsin, even Rutgers, and

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00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: everyone is saying, these guys are going to be so

604
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: ready when it comes to the NCAA tournament. The Pac

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00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: twelve Conference of Champions turns out every year they're soft.

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00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: There's a reason they don't get attention, there's a reason

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00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: people don't like them to advance, and they're crushing it.

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00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: So then let's look at Gonzaga. Gonzaga is the team

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00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 1: that everyone was saying, I don't know if I like Gonzaga,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If I believe in them because they

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00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: aren't battle tested. The truth is they're just the best team,

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00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: and we're continuing to see that. And what we got

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00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: from the Big Ten is that battle tested means different

614
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: things in different scenarios, and in a one game tournament,

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00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: which is essentially what this is, being battle tested doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter all that much, all right. I want to shift

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Speaker 1: to NFL free agency, so we know as a general

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00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: rule that the team that wins March does not win

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, but is or a team that you

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00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: think has been actionable enough that you view them differently today.

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Speaker 1: I do believe New England feels like just on the

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00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: tight end signings, feels like a more dynamic offense. Now

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Speaker 1: they lose Joe Tuney, but I do feel like Cam

624
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Speaker 1: Newton year two, Nelson Aguilar two tight ends, Jets are

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00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: still swimming in chaos, Dolphins are going with TWA. I

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00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: do feel like New England feels like a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's the one team I say, like Kenny

628
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Galladay a Door Jackson could both be bussed for the

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Speaker 1: Giants and I wouldn't be shocked. New England didn't really

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Speaker 1: pay anybody huge money These are not people coming in

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Speaker 1: with an attitude. I actually think New England, in their

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Speaker 1: own frugal way, improved a couple games. So I look

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Speaker 1: at it from the perspective of Super Bowl futures. Did

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Speaker 1: the Raiders super Bowl futures improve because they've got John Brown,

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Speaker 1: because they've got Kenyan Drake. No. In fact, if I'm

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Speaker 1: a better I feel worse about what the Raiders have

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Speaker 1: done because they've also given up key offensive line talent.

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Speaker 1: Did the Washington football team get better because they signed

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Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel and because they signed Ryan Fitzpatrick? To me,

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Speaker 1: that was a team I already had a future bet

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Speaker 1: on at sixty to one because I love what this

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Speaker 1: defense can do. And I was hopefully they would get

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Speaker 1: a top flight quarterback. And sort of in the same

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Speaker 1: twenty to one after they signed Tom Brady, I was

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Speaker 1: hopefully they'd pick up a marquee quarterback. Didn't happen, right.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are the only team of sort of the

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Speaker 1: free agent signed the teams that have been massively signing

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Speaker 1: people in the free agent market that have improved, and

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Speaker 1: their odds went from thirty three to one to thirty

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Speaker 1: to one. The market is not The market is not

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Speaker 1: buying the moves. And I gotta tell you what's so

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Speaker 1: interesting about this last week we're getting into We're heading

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Speaker 1: into March Madness, the first March Madness in two years.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is over the moon, excited. It's the middle of

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Speaker 1: the week and on Twitter, the dominant trending topics every

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Speaker 1: single day. NFL free agency. That was it, and it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Tom Brady NFL free agency. It was John Brown,

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Speaker 1: it was Curtis Samuel. It was guys who really aren't

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Speaker 1: huge difference makers. But that's how much air the NFL

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Speaker 1: takes out of the market. It is really amazing. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, this March Madness has been odd. You don't

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Speaker 1: have Duke, you don't have Kentucky, you don't have Louisville.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the favorites are gone. It won't rate highly.

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Speaker 1: That's understood. I've been going heavy into NFL free agency

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Speaker 1: and my numbers have been up six straight days, thirty

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Speaker 1: percent from last year at this time. My only down

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Speaker 1: day was last Thursday when I went heavy into college basketball.

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Speaker 1: It's the reality of it. This is a lot of

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Speaker 1: non traditional powers, and I think I do think college

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Speaker 1: think seventy five percent of great young players are going

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Speaker 1: to go to the G League now, which pays six

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Speaker 1: figures or overseas. I just think that's the reality of it.

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Speaker 1: I think the Kentucky game plan is over. I think

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Speaker 1: you can get one great player, but Kansas doesn't have players.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky doesn't, Duke doesn't, Gonzaga does. Like I think the

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Speaker 1: days of accumulating four to five great high school five

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Speaker 1: star kids, Chad, I think it's over. I think college

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Speaker 1: basketball is a sport in trouble. Completely agree. I thought

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Speaker 1: the other day, you know, I went to Indiana, right

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Speaker 1: Indiana needs a new coach, and everyone was starting these

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Speaker 1: rumors about can Indiana get Brad Stevens, home state guy,

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Speaker 1: to come back and coach to Indiana Hoosiers, and Woade

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Speaker 1: tweeted that why would Rad Stevens ever leave the NBA

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Speaker 1: to go coach in college? You will never see an

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Speaker 1: established winning NBA coach who's got other opportunities ever go

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Speaker 1: back to coach in college. And you think about it,

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Speaker 1: and it's one hundred percent accurate. Why would Brad Stevens,

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Speaker 1: who's got a battle, kids who might want to go

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Speaker 1: to the G League one and done might be done soon.

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Speaker 1: You're going to have so much more competition, name, image,

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Speaker 1: likeness is going to make things more complicated. You've got

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Speaker 1: to get on the road. It's just it's too hard

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Speaker 1: of a game to find what you really want to

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Speaker 1: do at the highest level and be successful consistently. It's

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Speaker 1: the NBA is a much better opportunity for guys like that.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's because the college game is dissipating

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Speaker 1: before ours. Yeah, you know, this is the reality of

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Speaker 1: when I worked at the SPN, I stopped talking about

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Speaker 1: baseball Monday through Friday during the regular season. And I

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Speaker 1: did it about fifteen years ago. And it was because

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Speaker 1: I was working out one day and a manager name

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Speaker 1: Glenn was in there and we got into these long

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Speaker 1: I like the data in the business, and we were

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Speaker 1: sitting there, towels wrapped around us, just talking about work,

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Speaker 1: and I asked him some questions about data and he said,

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Speaker 1: you know what's disturbing his baseball's become a local sport.

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Speaker 1: He goes people in basketball. Lebron has the ball thirty

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Speaker 1: eight minutes a game, or he's defending the ball. In football,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady has fifty eight snaps. In baseball, you get

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Speaker 1: a rod for four at bats. People love stars, and

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Speaker 1: so culturally the phone the highlight world we live in.

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Speaker 1: Kids now statistically are more into players than teams. You're

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Speaker 1: an errand judge guy more than a Yankee guy. I

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Speaker 1: didn't grow up with that. So baseball, I talk about

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Speaker 1: it in the postseason, but I've moved off it mostly

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Speaker 1: in the regular season. Culturally, college basketball is dealing with

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Speaker 1: the reality is that with the the NBA sees college

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Speaker 1: basketball as the enemy. How they treat kids, don't pay them.

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Speaker 1: So the NBA, Adam Silver, is aggressively trying to end

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Speaker 1: college basketball by making used to be the D League.

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Speaker 1: Then they got the Gatorade sponsor. Now it's the G League. Translation,

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Speaker 1: we can pay the kids. So when the pro league

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Speaker 1: is actively trying to hurt the college business, it dies.

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Speaker 1: I honestly think what we're seeing in the tournament this

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Speaker 1: year is kind of what we're gonna get Chad going

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Speaker 1: forward is an occasional Villanova Gonzaga really great program that

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Speaker 1: lands one star. But the Dukes, the Kansas, the Kentucky's

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Speaker 1: that lived off two and three and four five star guys.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to get them anymore. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that exists. Look at what we said a week ago.

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Speaker 1: The programs we like to advance are the programs whose

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Speaker 1: coaches have been there for a while, They've built consistency,

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Speaker 1: and they have players who have been in the program.

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Speaker 1: And that is what we're seeing with Gonzaga. It's what

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Speaker 1: we're not seeing with Duke. It's what we didn't see

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Speaker 1: with North Carolina. You're getting teams that have consistency in

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Speaker 1: the team being together, and you're getting the right mix

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Speaker 1: of upperclassmen and underclassmen. Gonzaga had an upperclassman who was

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Speaker 1: an All American named last week, an underclassman named an

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Speaker 1: All American last week. And the other important thing you said,

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Speaker 1: where is Zion in this tournament? Where is John Morant

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Speaker 1: in this tournament? Is anybody tuning in to see these

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Speaker 1: transcendent players who everybody could name these guys as being

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Speaker 1: the number one and two overall picks from the second

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Speaker 1: to college basketball season started. When the colored basketball season started,

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Speaker 1: was anyone thinking Kate Cunningham, like, I gotta see this

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Speaker 1: guy so I do think that has a big impact.

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Speaker 1: All right, Chad Melman the Action Network, what's the line

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Speaker 1: on Gonzaga's next game. Gonzaga is a thirteen or a

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Speaker 1: half point favorite over Creton, And by the way, Creton

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Speaker 1: was another team Wise guys totally against when the tournament started.

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Speaker 1: They felt as though they had not played well at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. There were issues within the

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Speaker 1: program they had. They had failed miserably against Georgetown in

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Speaker 1: the Biggie's Final. They come in and they played like

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Speaker 1: the team they had been all season long in the

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Speaker 1: first two rounds. Credit to you, by the way, on

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Speaker 1: this podcast last week, you're you said Colorado will beat

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Speaker 1: Georgetown by twenty one points. The only thing that was

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Speaker 1: wrong how much they would beat him by and how

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Speaker 1: much Georgetown would be down in the first five minutes

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Speaker 1: of the game. That was my one big call. Here's

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Speaker 1: another one. How the hell you know you taught Creighton?

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Speaker 1: Ucla gave away four games at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: They don't even look like a Sweet sixteen team. Like

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Speaker 1: that's when you know, everybody except Gonzaga is kind of

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Speaker 1: mushed together. U se La nothing about him. I like

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Speaker 1: it's up and down right. Creton was down, now they're up.

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Speaker 1: You say it was down, now they're up. Michigan was down,

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Speaker 1: now they're up. Baylor missed all this time because of COVID.

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Speaker 1: Everyone writes them off. Now they look as good as

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Speaker 1: they did in the beginning of the year. All right, Melbyn,

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Speaker 1: Chad Millman the Action Network. Good talking to you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: see your brother, all right, fun stuff, Free agency talk

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Speaker 1: with John Middlecoff, former NFL scout, and Chad Milman at

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Speaker 1: the Action Network. From college basketball Talk. My two bets

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Speaker 1: on the Action Network. All take the Zags Gonzaga minus

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Speaker 1: the points against Creton and I'm gonna take Oregon plus

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Speaker 1: two and a half against the USC Trojans. Follow me

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Speaker 1: on the Action Network in my picks. Good stuff. Follow

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