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Speaker 1: On this episode of news World, we have a really

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Speaker 1: fascinating series of questions and comments from the members of

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Speaker 1: our inner circle. I think you're going to find it

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Speaker 1: very fascinating, and you're going to find we cover the

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Speaker 1: water from a wide range of issues and topics, and

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Speaker 1: some really smart people joined in, including my dear friend,

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Speaker 1: former Governor John Engler of Michigan. We've got great questions.

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Speaker 1: This question is from Maureen, who lives in Ohio, and

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Speaker 1: she says she's seeing many people lose positions and jobs

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Speaker 1: in the community due to their political affiliation. How feasible

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Speaker 1: would it be to get the words quote political affiliation

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Speaker 1: and quote added to the Civil Rights Act of nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty four. Well, it might be very hard to do.

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Speaker 1: And we're faced right now with a really to tolitarian

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Speaker 1: effort to punish anybody who is not prepared to say

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Speaker 1: exactly what the left wants you to say, and that

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Speaker 1: should be illegal. You should not be able to be

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Speaker 1: driven from public life by that kind of activity. So

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Speaker 1: I think at a minimum, proposing it and having the

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Speaker 1: argument about it is a very good step in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. Linda asks she sees new packs being formed,

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Speaker 1: what question should she ask of a pack before giving

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Speaker 1: her money, she should ask your questions what is its

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Speaker 1: purpose and what percent of the money it's receiving is

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Speaker 1: it actually spending on that purpose rather than overhead. And

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Speaker 1: we learned, for example, with the Lincoln Project, which was

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Speaker 1: the hate Trump group of Republican professionals, that when they

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Speaker 1: collapsed after there were very serious charges about one of

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Speaker 1: their founders preying upon young men. When they collapsed, it

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Speaker 1: turned out a very high percentage of money that they

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Speaker 1: raised basically want to pay the founders, didn't go to

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Speaker 1: any effective use. And I think that's one of the

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Speaker 1: great problems. So I would say I always ask what

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Speaker 1: percent are you spending an overhead? And if they have

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Speaker 1: very much spent an overhead, I wouldn't give to it.

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Speaker 1: Donnie wants to know if you think President Trump should

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Speaker 1: run for another term in twenty twenty four or do

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Speaker 1: you think it would be more beneficial if he would

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Speaker 1: become more of a kingmaker and endorse someone like a

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Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis or Christy No. I must say first of

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Speaker 1: all that I'm a big fan of Rona De Santis

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Speaker 1: both of them, in my mind, would be great future

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Speaker 1: national candidates. I think we should not worry about twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. I've been talking with Governor Haley Barber, who

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Speaker 1: was the Republican National Committee chair when we had the

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Speaker 1: contract with America and won the House for the first

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Speaker 1: time in forty years, and Hailey reminded me we should

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Speaker 1: say to everybody, focus on twenty twenty two. And I

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Speaker 1: hope whatever Trump wants to do in the future, that

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Speaker 1: he will spend a lot of time this year next

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Speaker 1: year focusing on regaining control of the Senate and gaining

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Speaker 1: control of the House. But it's going to be very possible.

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Speaker 1: But we don't need to have some kind of Republican

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Speaker 1: about Trump's future in early twenty twenty three. He's obviously

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Speaker 1: the biggest single player in the Republican Party, but he's

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Speaker 1: not the only player, and nobody should assume they we're

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Speaker 1: going to be defined solely by the former president, even

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Speaker 1: though he is clearly the most powerful single person. But

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Speaker 1: I look at somebody like a RHN de Santis, I'm

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Speaker 1: look at the courage and clarity that Christy Nome brings

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Speaker 1: to things. I also look at a number of housemen

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Speaker 1: what's really impressive is we have a lot deeper bene

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Speaker 1: The governor of New York may well be impeached or indicted.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like where we're going in the long

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Speaker 1: run better than where they are. Karen listened to Your

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Speaker 1: News World podcast interview with Stephen Miller and loved it,

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Speaker 1: and she wants to know how we would implement his

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Speaker 1: idea to counter the radical left agenda by having many

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Speaker 1: Since it's more difficult to silence all of them. Well,

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Speaker 1: a very very good podcast. But it may well be

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Speaker 1: that what we should consider doing is having sort of

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Speaker 1: the Tea Party movement did in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: Remember Tea Party movement was entirely grassroots, It was spontaneous.

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Speaker 1: but they changed history. We picked up sixty three House

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Speaker 1: I think there's a real opportunity to have an impact

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Speaker 1: of this. Paul wants your opinion on the speed of

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Speaker 1: development of biological warfare by our enemies. These countries are

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Speaker 1: learning a lot of how we handled or mishandled the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: enormous problem. Years ago, I was part of the Center

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Speaker 1: the government bureaucracies were so incompetent over the last year

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Speaker 1: we are really incapable today of coping with a major

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Speaker 1: biological problem. Rob ask was timing and influencer on the

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Speaker 1: success of the Contract with America and if so, are

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Speaker 1: we going to see another opportunity like that in our lifetime? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think we could actually have one in twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 1: and I think that Kevin McCarthy is certainly moving in

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Speaker 1: that beat all the expectations. Remember all the so called

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Speaker 1: I think that there should be a positive thing next year.

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Speaker 1: It actually wasn't particularly clever timing. I lost twice in

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Speaker 1: terrific idea. Why don't you chair the planning committee? So

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Speaker 1: sixteen additional years of work. So I'm not a big

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of just brute persistence. You keep going

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Speaker 1: forward and eventually you breakthrough. Rob has another question, what

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Speaker 1: That said, publicly, the teachers' unions are the best allies

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Speaker 1: It is an absolute catastrophe, and we should be on

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Speaker 1: very dramatic and very deep reforms giving parents the choice

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Speaker 1: The second thing I would focus on is the degree

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Speaker 1: and the reasons really simple. If you have a movement

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Speaker 1: all along you've had this desperation on the left to

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Speaker 1: was shot by a policeman. On the left, they just

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Speaker 1: If you repeat the big lie long enough, some people

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Speaker 1: impeachable on that particular day. Argue about his language. You

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