1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Surveillance. I view the boom and bust 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: business that might view the time will actually run out 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: the available supply, growth that wants to do more and 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: continues to communicate they'd like to do more. Ultimately, are 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: only able to deliver one more rate hight this year 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: market's discount of future. When interestrates are very very low, 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: you're effectively discounting further out into the future at a 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: time when it's harder to see what's out. Bloomberg Surveillance, 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: You're linked to the world of economics, finance, and investment. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: On Bloomberg Radio. Good morning everyone, Michael McKee and Tom Kin. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Surveillance is Tuesday. Good morning in Florida, Good morning 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: in Ohio, and seriously next time Channel one nineteen, Good 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: morning in Washington, where they'll be watching the results tonight 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: to a fair the well FM Washington and Baltimore. Bloomberg twelve, Boston, 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Eleven's Rio, you know, sort of a cloudy gray 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: New York and the gorgiosity of San Francisco Bay Area. 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: We say good morning across this great nation as we 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: discuss a little bit of politics, but a lot of economics. 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Finance and Investment. 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We try to bring you voices like Alan 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: Ruskin with Deutsche Bank and he joins us down Allan, 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, Allen, Good morning there you are, um, Alan, 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: dollar strength. I want to get right to your wheelhouse. 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: What is your call on the magnitude of dollars twelve months? Yeah, 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: we're actually shaving back some of the strength that we anticipated, 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: in part because of the market's response really to the ECB. 35 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: As you know, Tom, divergence has been a big story 36 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: for the last eighteen months to two years, and the 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: ECB has in many ways led the charge. Now I 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: think they to some extent, I wouldn't say running out 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: of bullets, but their impact on the foreign exchange markets 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: much is likely to be more muted. It's really up 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to the Fed, I think, to drive things forwards. So 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: we're scanting back our year end forecast from zero point 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: nine five on euro dollar to parity um so you know, 44 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: still a stronger dollar. Directions still very much maintained in 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: favor of a stronger dollar, but the pace and magnitude 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: are are more contained. How do we get there? And 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the reason I'm asking is the Bank of Japan stands pat, 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: the Fed's expected to stand pat, and we're not seeing 49 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: any real movement in currencies other than a little jiggle 50 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: around the status quo lately. Yeah, I think you know, 51 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: the the the emphasis has to be on what the 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve does. So look, if the Feds are not 53 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: going to be in player this year, then we'd like 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: you have to scale back a tad further, but not 55 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: that much because I think the range has You know 56 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: that we've seen over the last twelve months of one 57 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: oh five to one fifteen on euro dollar is you know, 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: it's been solid enough anyway, and it doesn't really even 59 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: need the ft to be in play to get us 60 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: to one O one oh five. But the FED is 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: in play, as I would anticipate, and as I think 62 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: we'll see from uh, you know Janet yelling this week, 63 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: then you know that will be the kicker. I think, 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: and and and just keep in mind, really a ten 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: percent move in the foreign exchange market is not a 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: huge move, certainly in terms of signaling the low point 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: for euro dollar this year. Well, what did you make 68 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: of coronison in the Bank of Japan today? Uh? Do 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: they are? They still in play? I think there's still 70 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: laur in player. I think they're still coming to grips 71 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: with the whole idea air of negative rates, What the 72 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: implications are, what the mechanics of negative rates are? Um, 73 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think you're going to see 74 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot more in terms of negative rates from 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: the Bank of Japan. I think you are likely to 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: see maybe they're sort of branching out towards buying riskier 77 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: assets or buying more risky acids going forward. So I 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: think the Bank of Japan is in play, but it's 79 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: in a sort of a more muted form than we've 80 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: see him previously. How does this adapt in the just 81 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: fed Alan Roskin. I hate to tell you this, but 82 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm misinformed on the dot plot. McKee is encyclopedic on 83 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: dot plot dynamics. When we bring up the dot plot, 84 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: there's the belief, the hope, whatever, and then there's the 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: market pricing and reality, which is right, um, somewhere in 86 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: between us, I think somewhere, and I think that's somewhere 87 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: in between. I think the Federal Service clearly sort of 88 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: looking at a fairly normal cycle. I mean, they've obviously 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: muted out the longer term equilibrium funds rate as well. 90 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: The market is taking a um, you know, a far 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: less sanguine view in terms of the real economy prospects 92 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: going forward. So I think, uh, you know, correct me 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong your time. But I think the two 94 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eight market view is uh, you know, less 95 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: hawkish effectively than uh, you know what we have for 96 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen from you know, the federal reserves. Such. 97 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: So the market is obviously taking a very very very 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: duvish line going forward, but I think that could change 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: quite quickly, so, you know, to fair actually does tighten, 100 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: for example, in June, then the market is going to 101 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: have to reconsider because there's really not much priced in 102 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: there for two thousand and sixteen and two thousand and 103 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: seventeen in particular, isn't it really what you want to 104 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: look at is inflation and what you think inflation is 105 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: going to be. That's going to drive the Fed's decisions, 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: I should drive your investment decision to an extent, although 107 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: keeping mind, inflation is a lagging indicators, So the FED 108 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: is you know, like I think a lot of the 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: market is hanging onto concepts that relate to predicting inflation 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: and output gap and spec capacity in the labor market 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: indicators in particular. There you know, what they tell us 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 1: about spec capacity is absolutely crucial in that um. And 113 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the interesting element you're seeing in the 114 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: market at the moment is this decoupling between you know, 115 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the employment data and some of the forward looking signals 116 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: in terms of financial conditions, the yield curve and maybe 117 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: even GDP in facts. So you know how long that 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: will continue? Is? I think that, you know, probably the 119 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: key question for the market. I look at Ellen, the 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: key question here of back to back central banks. I 121 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: said this is this morning to Francine, look and no 122 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: one's looking at what Bank of England is going to do, 123 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: and to me it's maybe the most interesting meeting because 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: they have to play really play off what Mr Drag did. 125 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: Did Mr Drag adjust what Mr Kearney will say on Thursday. 126 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: I don't think materially, Tom, because you know, what the 127 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: UK is still facing is a large scale fiscal consolidation. 128 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: So let's see what the UK budget actually brings. But 129 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: I think that you know, the expectation is there as 130 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: you get some sort of contraction reinfluence there. The economy 131 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: seems to be slowing in any event, so the mix 132 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: is really meant that the Bank of England, I can 133 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: you can think, will hold tight really for the next 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: for pretty much this year. At this point, you know, 135 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: it looked much more likely that the Bank of England 136 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: was going to tighten and be the only other G 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: ten central bank that would follow the fat in terms 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: of tightening this year. But of late, I think one's 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: had his scale back those expectations, asking with us with 140 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Dutch Bank, we're going to come back on that. We 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: have to interrupt. It's important discussion on Mr Ruskin to 142 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: look at the implosion of Valiant two new loves. I 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: would have said we don't have to do that right now, 144 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: we can save it for another day, but it has 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: not found a bid this morning. Is people digest non 146 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: gap and gap earnings and the mystery of this. I 147 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: don't pretend to be up to speed on it. We'll 148 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: get a guest on this as we go. But to 149 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: remind everybody, we've enjoyed moving from two dred and forty 150 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: three dollars a share down to sixty nine in a 151 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: low of sixty one, and right now, Mike, we've broken 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: through that March fourth low to fifty seven. We're down 153 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: sevent on this company, for those who haven't been following 154 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: the news, valued out this morning with a downgrade of 155 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: its forecast, a significant downgrade of its earnings forecast, and 156 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: that has obviously investors concerned. Valiant business model under attack, 157 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: and it had been defended by Mr Ackman and company 158 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: hedge investor. So it, even if it's a relatively small company, 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: is has an outsized presence in the news and a 160 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: very different structure here Michael Pearson back from illness clearly, 161 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: but with three basically three chairmen, which I don't pretend 162 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: to understand. Eric Abramson, Ariy Kellen and Whittaker as well 163 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: out of Bridgewater, New Jersey, and uh this bears watching. 164 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: I I don't know why I say that, Mike, other 165 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: than stock price says a lot. And the way it's 166 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: acting off the news of I'm gonna say, forty five 167 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: minutes ago is unbecoming to the mysteries that are out there. 168 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: Hitting a low of fifty seven UM fifty six sixty 169 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: two eight oh two, six minutes ago as well. So 170 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: there's Valiant. I don't mean to interrupt Mr Ruskin on 171 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: but this is moving in real time. We'll try to 172 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: get some perspective on this, uh this morning as well. 173 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Valiant pharmaceuticals uh south and are really difficult. Ernie's might 174 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 1: help me with a data check here. The b o 175 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: J really didn't adjust the day, did it. It did 176 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: not well, I mean it did in the sense that 177 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: people were uh disappointed that they didn't get any more 178 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: easy K finished down by seven tents a hundred and 179 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: seven little points on the day, and that hangover has 180 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 1: spread to Europe and into the US markets ahead of 181 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: the fat A little wait stronger yea one twelve eighty three, 182 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: A full stick one eighty three stronger the euro one 183 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: eleven one it earlier one eleven oh two on the 184 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: euro flat with some a little bit of dollar strength 185 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: this morning. Commodities really giving it up after a great run. 186 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: West Texas thirty six thirty six two cents, Brent thirty 187 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: eight sixty one down ninety two cents, Oil soft Gold 188 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: down thirteen dollars twelve thirty one the ounce. All right, 189 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: let's check in with mykel r and get the latest 190 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: world and national headlines. Mike Tom, thank you very much. 191 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: Campaigns of Florida's Marco Ruby, oh and Ohio's John Casey 192 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: could hang the balance today. They need to win their 193 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: home states to have a chance at catching Republican leader 194 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Through other states sold primaries today. Big wins 195 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: today by Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton could pad their leads. 196 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 1: There was more confirmation of the death of the Islamic 197 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: State group's top military commander in Syria. Spokesman for the 198 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: US led coalition battling in the RACK says it has 199 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: been able to determine that Omar al Shashani is dead 200 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: after being wounded last week in an air strike. 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