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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 2: We got lots to say, we got.

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Speaker 3: Lots to say, would better here, and we hope you

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Speaker 2: Got lost to say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got lost to say.

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Speaker 2: Here's Bobby That.

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Speaker 5: So he's Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones and we're doing

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Speaker 5: this podcast question for you.

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Speaker 6: Matt.

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Speaker 5: We have known each other for about a month now.

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Speaker 5: Obviously I haven't known who's.

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Speaker 6: Getting closer by the day. Yeah, very much, very much,

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Speaker 6: study my best friend.

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Speaker 5: Whenever the call was made to you, hey you should

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Speaker 5: do this podcast and think like, what did you even

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Speaker 5: know about me? Or and be completely honest, what did

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Speaker 5: you know about me? And what do they tell you

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I knew that you were a radio personality,

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Speaker 4: but I'm not gonna lie. When I got the email,

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Speaker 4: along with like just kind of general introduction, they put

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Speaker 4: your whole resume underneath.

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Speaker 6: Oh they were selling me, let's go. Oh.

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Speaker 4: So so I sat there, I'm reading and I'm like, holy,

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 4: So I was like big bulls sell or twice big

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this is pretty big deal right now,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I'm still trying to get over thirty

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Speaker 4: Right You're like three point four, I think was the

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Speaker 5: And for me, it was because one of the guys

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Speaker 5: I just have big opinions and I'm kind of funny.

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Speaker 6: And they're like Matt.

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Speaker 5: Castle and I was like, oh, the guy, well, Brady

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Speaker 5: got heard. He went in what happened to him?

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Speaker 6: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: It's in my resume at all your life, but they

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Speaker 6: They had to convince you. So as you're hearing.

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Speaker 5: This show has called lots to say, We're gonna have

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Speaker 5: Matt Castle, Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 6: This is lots to say.

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Speaker 2: Tara Warner coming up in it just a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Hey, what are these.

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Speaker 5: Guys thinking right now? They're going to the playoffs if

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Speaker 5: they've never been in the playoffs? What's the week like

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Speaker 5: leading up to the first playoff game?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know that the intensity ratchets up and a

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Speaker 4: And for some of these teams that got in that

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Speaker 5: In baseball, the wildcard tends to do well in the

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Speaker 4: You build on that momentum and then that confidence comes

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Speaker 4: It was devastating considering where we were at in the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if I would be able to

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Speaker 6: Percent, You've got so many people at I think it

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Speaker 4: You're sick to your stomach because you're a minute and

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Speaker 1: What about you playing in playoffs? You have kans City a.

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Speaker 5: Let's take game film out of the equation. As far

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Speaker 6: Do you watch the tape back?

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Speaker 6: But it's really saying goodbye to all your buddies and then.

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Speaker 6: Sucks.

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Speaker 6: I didn't really know the lay of the land.

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Speaker 5: I liked Burrow and the Swords. Yeah, they wanted guns

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Speaker 5: So they were like, how did he buy Toyota Tundras

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Speaker 6: There's an expectation.

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Speaker 5: I will one off them things privately, but I don't.

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Speaker 6: Do the whole. I got everybody this, I got all.

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Speaker 4: You guys the greatest gift you'll ever imagine, because every

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Speaker 4: But that year I started every year, I mean the

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Speaker 4: It was zero zero when I went, wait, you didn't

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Speaker 6: He gets the credit.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to County Hill.

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Speaker 2: Ready.

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Speaker 6: I want my win back.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 5: All right, coming up, Kurt Warner, we'll talk to him.

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Speaker 5: Do you know Kurt, I do?

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Speaker 6: I do?

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Speaker 4: I played in this charity event before great event, Blag

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Speaker 5: Excited Kurt Warner coming up here in the second. We're

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Speaker 6: Kurt is known for having a great redemption story.

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Speaker 5: Undrafted player PAULA Famer, one of the best analysts in

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Speaker 6: A big thanks to Kurt for coming on.

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Speaker 5: I know this is your boy, so I'll let you guys,

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Speaker 6: The athletes are.

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Speaker 5: Your people, right and and but then the artist are

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Speaker 1: I know it's not even that. It's just I'm just jealous.

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Speaker 6: In the locker. No, but you are.

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Speaker 5: You're starting me in a locker many years ago at

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Speaker 5: a different time. Never, I never would do something like that.

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Speaker 5: I was always a good teammate Kurt. I'm talking about

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Speaker 6: We love this guy, Hurt. What's up, buddy?

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Speaker 2: How you doing? Man? What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Life is great.

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Speaker 4: Got the five kids rocking and rolling, doing the college

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Speaker 2: Gosh, it makes it fun though. That kids, little ones

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Speaker 6: It's great to see you too. How do you guys

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Speaker 1: We compete fraternity of quarterback fraternity.

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Speaker 2: I just think when you're both playing, and then obviously

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Speaker 4: I think it was the perfect storm, literally the perfect storm,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, this is awful. This was awful. But yeah,

442
00:18:52,536 --> 00:18:55,696
Speaker 2: I was a beat down. So he's always etched in

443
00:18:55,816 --> 00:18:59,136
Speaker 2: my mind in my career, in that one game that

444
00:18:59,136 --> 00:19:01,015
Speaker 2: that I'd love to give back if I could.

445
00:19:01,455 --> 00:19:04,376
Speaker 5: We were talking a few minutes ago about quarterbacks in Christmas,

446
00:19:04,776 --> 00:19:07,376
Speaker 5: and I was talking about how I kind of screwed

447
00:19:07,416 --> 00:19:08,936
Speaker 5: over his line then whenever he went in for Brady

448
00:19:08,936 --> 00:19:11,775
Speaker 5: because he got you know, he left, didn't get them gifts.

449
00:19:12,096 --> 00:19:14,215
Speaker 1: But we started going through all the gifts this year.

450
00:19:14,296 --> 00:19:16,816
Speaker 5: What was that culture like for quarterbacks whenever you were playing,

451
00:19:16,816 --> 00:19:18,176
Speaker 5: did you have to buy them crazy gifts?

452
00:19:18,576 --> 00:19:21,615
Speaker 2: Well, we bought them gifts, but like you know, we

453
00:19:21,656 --> 00:19:24,856
Speaker 2: didn't make fifty million dollars a year. I mean we

454
00:19:25,416 --> 00:19:28,416
Speaker 2: still make good money, but we didn't make fifty million dollars.

455
00:19:28,495 --> 00:19:32,856
Speaker 2: I mean, guys are getting cars and likes. It's ridiculous. Like, yeah,

456
00:19:32,896 --> 00:19:35,616
Speaker 2: I gave away some big screen TVs to my guys,

457
00:19:35,656 --> 00:19:39,576
Speaker 2: which was a big deal back then, like portable DVD players,

458
00:19:39,816 --> 00:19:42,696
Speaker 2: you know those things that were kind of in style. Again,

459
00:19:42,735 --> 00:19:45,216
Speaker 2: that was a long time ago for me. But yeah,

460
00:19:45,616 --> 00:19:48,255
Speaker 2: we gave them gifts. But like this is ridiculous, you

461
00:19:48,256 --> 00:19:50,416
Speaker 2: know because now they reflect back on it, like, hey,

462
00:19:50,656 --> 00:19:53,576
Speaker 2: what did you give us? And it's like unfair for us. Matt,

463
00:19:54,376 --> 00:19:55,136
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

464
00:19:55,336 --> 00:19:56,775
Speaker 6: I mean it's gotten so out of control.

465
00:19:56,816 --> 00:19:59,495
Speaker 4: And now all the linemen that we play with, I

466
00:19:59,536 --> 00:20:01,535
Speaker 4: almost look at him around that Christmas time when I

467
00:20:01,536 --> 00:20:03,815
Speaker 4: talked to all my buddies and stuff, I'm like, I'm sorry,

468
00:20:04,096 --> 00:20:05,735
Speaker 4: Like I didn't know that it was going to get

469
00:20:05,735 --> 00:20:08,136
Speaker 4: to the stage. I mean, it's gotten out of hand.

470
00:20:08,816 --> 00:20:11,616
Speaker 2: And the other thing is is linemen now make more

471
00:20:11,735 --> 00:20:15,656
Speaker 2: than we made as quarterbacks then, Like the linemen are

472
00:20:15,656 --> 00:20:18,416
Speaker 2: making ridiculous Like it's ridiculous. I don't know why we

473
00:20:18,735 --> 00:20:20,576
Speaker 2: have to buy them gifts. As much as I love

474
00:20:20,616 --> 00:20:22,376
Speaker 2: them and as much as I appreciate them, it's like

475
00:20:22,816 --> 00:20:25,215
Speaker 2: and everybody makes great money. Now, I don't know.

476
00:20:25,656 --> 00:20:29,656
Speaker 1: Who's trending up hardest right now, not who's the best

477
00:20:30,016 --> 00:20:32,416
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, who's trending up the hardest.

478
00:20:34,056 --> 00:20:36,056
Speaker 2: You're saying a team as a whole.

479
00:20:35,975 --> 00:20:40,936
Speaker 1: Yes, as a whole, and that is a.

480
00:20:40,536 --> 00:20:44,336
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know if we have

481
00:20:44,455 --> 00:20:48,496
Speaker 2: that one team that's just kind of running and necessarily

482
00:20:48,616 --> 00:20:50,656
Speaker 2: hit their stride because a couple of these teams I

483
00:20:50,656 --> 00:20:53,215
Speaker 2: think took a little step back. But I'm still going

484
00:20:53,296 --> 00:20:56,616
Speaker 2: to say the Lions are like after that big win

485
00:20:56,735 --> 00:20:58,975
Speaker 2: on Sunday Night where I think a lot of people

486
00:20:59,016 --> 00:21:02,376
Speaker 2: had questions and all the injuries and they dominated another

487
00:21:02,455 --> 00:21:07,735
Speaker 2: fourteen win team. Going into the playoffs, I would have

488
00:21:07,816 --> 00:21:10,495
Speaker 2: to say that they're they're trending up right. We've got

489
00:21:10,536 --> 00:21:12,936
Speaker 2: the Eagles that have some questions because the quarterback hasn't

490
00:21:13,096 --> 00:21:15,416
Speaker 2: played in a couple of weeks, Minnesota that obviously just

491
00:21:15,495 --> 00:21:19,176
Speaker 2: took a big loss. There. You know, the other teams

492
00:21:19,215 --> 00:21:21,576
Speaker 2: in the NFC, you don't really you're not really excited about.

493
00:21:21,656 --> 00:21:23,455
Speaker 2: And I look at the AFC and I just think

494
00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:27,696
Speaker 2: it's so much about matchups, Like I could see the

495
00:21:27,696 --> 00:21:30,495
Speaker 2: Bills beating the Chiefs, but the Ravens beating the Bills,

496
00:21:30,536 --> 00:21:32,255
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it's going to be fun to

497
00:21:32,256 --> 00:21:34,176
Speaker 2: see how that plays out and who wins and who

498
00:21:34,215 --> 00:21:36,696
Speaker 2: loses and what the matchups are over there. But I

499
00:21:36,735 --> 00:21:39,096
Speaker 2: think that big win for the Lions, and to finish

500
00:21:39,136 --> 00:21:41,735
Speaker 2: the season with just two losses with all the things

501
00:21:41,735 --> 00:21:44,575
Speaker 2: that have gone wrong, I would probably say they're the

502
00:21:44,616 --> 00:21:47,255
Speaker 2: one team that continues to trend up for me.

503
00:21:47,816 --> 00:21:51,376
Speaker 4: Now in the AFC, you obviously have the Chiefs and

504
00:21:51,416 --> 00:21:53,616
Speaker 4: they're going for their three peat right now, and they've

505
00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:56,616
Speaker 4: definitely got some concerns obviously at the left tackle position,

506
00:21:57,056 --> 00:21:59,536
Speaker 4: the health of some of their guys. Patrick Mahomes has

507
00:22:00,016 --> 00:22:01,975
Speaker 4: he played well at times this year, but not the

508
00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:06,376
Speaker 4: dominant nature that we've been necessarily accustomed to of watching him.

509
00:22:06,816 --> 00:22:10,255
Speaker 4: But at the same time, they're fifteen and two and

510
00:22:10,296 --> 00:22:12,656
Speaker 4: they didn't even play last week. Do you think that

511
00:22:12,776 --> 00:22:16,015
Speaker 4: this is another season in which they get to the

512
00:22:16,016 --> 00:22:18,215
Speaker 4: playoffs and they're the team to beat in the AFC?

513
00:22:18,376 --> 00:22:21,735
Speaker 4: Just to see the landscape and how it's gone this

514
00:22:21,816 --> 00:22:24,176
Speaker 4: season for them and a lot of close wins, but

515
00:22:24,176 --> 00:22:26,775
Speaker 4: at the same time, they haven't had the dominant they

516
00:22:26,816 --> 00:22:29,775
Speaker 4: haven't played at the dominant way in which they were

517
00:22:30,416 --> 00:22:31,416
Speaker 4: kind of used to seeing.

518
00:22:32,016 --> 00:22:33,856
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think you have to say that the

519
00:22:33,896 --> 00:22:37,016
Speaker 2: team to beat because they continue to find ways to win.

520
00:22:37,376 --> 00:22:39,136
Speaker 2: And then the other thing I would say is that

521
00:22:39,656 --> 00:22:41,936
Speaker 2: even I just mentioned the Lions, is maybe the team

522
00:22:41,975 --> 00:22:45,376
Speaker 2: trending up. I thought the Chiefs the last game that

523
00:22:45,416 --> 00:22:47,376
Speaker 2: they played with all their guys a couple weeks ago

524
00:22:48,016 --> 00:22:51,416
Speaker 2: was the best I had seen them play all year long,

525
00:22:52,056 --> 00:22:54,815
Speaker 2: and so, you know, you just wonder because they're one

526
00:22:54,856 --> 00:22:56,736
Speaker 2: of those teams that always seems to kind of hit

527
00:22:56,776 --> 00:22:59,215
Speaker 2: their stride at the end of the year and end

528
00:22:59,215 --> 00:23:03,296
Speaker 2: of the playoffs, so home field advantage by really only

529
00:23:03,376 --> 00:23:06,296
Speaker 2: one loss on the season and playing their best football

530
00:23:06,296 --> 00:23:08,816
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, I do think they're

531
00:23:08,896 --> 00:23:11,376
Speaker 2: still the team to beat. Do I believe they can

532
00:23:11,455 --> 00:23:13,535
Speaker 2: be beaten? Of course I do. I think there's a

533
00:23:13,576 --> 00:23:16,856
Speaker 2: couple teams on the AFC side that I just mentioned with,

534
00:23:16,975 --> 00:23:19,975
Speaker 2: you know, with Baltimore and you know, and also with

535
00:23:20,016 --> 00:23:24,735
Speaker 2: the Bills that definitely could beat the Chiefs. So I

536
00:23:24,816 --> 00:23:26,696
Speaker 2: don't think this is a lock by any means, but

537
00:23:26,776 --> 00:23:28,616
Speaker 2: I do think there's still the team to beat.

538
00:23:28,816 --> 00:23:30,616
Speaker 1: The Chargers, being in the same division as the Chiefs.

539
00:23:30,616 --> 00:23:32,775
Speaker 5: They've played twice already, that could end up being a

540
00:23:32,816 --> 00:23:35,856
Speaker 5: matchup obviously before the AFC Championship game, like a guy

541
00:23:35,896 --> 00:23:40,015
Speaker 5: like Harball third game, like, does it give them a

542
00:23:40,056 --> 00:23:42,575
Speaker 5: bit of an advantage like going time number three? He

543
00:23:42,656 --> 00:23:44,455
Speaker 5: knows his team is personnel a little more.

544
00:23:46,176 --> 00:23:48,575
Speaker 2: I just think, you know, because again you look at

545
00:23:48,616 --> 00:23:51,936
Speaker 2: the way teams are playing, both the Chiefs and the Chargers,

546
00:23:52,376 --> 00:23:55,056
Speaker 2: and both of them really play kind of low scoring,

547
00:23:55,975 --> 00:23:59,176
Speaker 2: muddle it up type of games, and it's really going

548
00:23:59,256 --> 00:24:01,056
Speaker 2: to come down I think in the AFC a lot

549
00:24:01,096 --> 00:24:05,015
Speaker 2: of times too, who makes that drive down the stretch?

550
00:24:05,016 --> 00:24:07,696
Speaker 2: Who may that play down the stretch to win a game?

551
00:24:08,096 --> 00:24:09,975
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm believing that the Chiefs, even though

552
00:24:10,016 --> 00:24:12,495
Speaker 2: they're the team to beat, are going to blow out anybody.

553
00:24:12,696 --> 00:24:14,176
Speaker 2: I still think they're going to be in a bunch

554
00:24:14,176 --> 00:24:16,536
Speaker 2: of close games. Now. They've been better in those moments

555
00:24:16,816 --> 00:24:20,336
Speaker 2: than anybody else, so you give them the edge. But

556
00:24:20,455 --> 00:24:22,255
Speaker 2: I think it's really going to come down to in

557
00:24:22,296 --> 00:24:24,775
Speaker 2: a lot of those games. Chargers Chiefs, if they played,

558
00:24:25,735 --> 00:24:28,255
Speaker 2: I believe it would be a one possession game, and

559
00:24:28,616 --> 00:24:31,536
Speaker 2: which team makes those plays either side of the ball

560
00:24:31,896 --> 00:24:34,856
Speaker 2: down the stretch? To win the game, will win the game.

561
00:24:35,536 --> 00:24:37,696
Speaker 2: I just I think it's going to be that way

562
00:24:37,696 --> 00:24:41,016
Speaker 2: in a lot of games on the AFC side, especially

563
00:24:41,016 --> 00:24:43,535
Speaker 2: where the Chiefs are involved. It's just happens to be

564
00:24:43,576 --> 00:24:46,056
Speaker 2: that there's so much better in those moments than everybody else.

565
00:24:46,096 --> 00:24:48,416
Speaker 2: But you know, I sit here, like I think a

566
00:24:48,455 --> 00:24:50,535
Speaker 2: lot of the pundits out there are fans that have

567
00:24:50,616 --> 00:24:53,696
Speaker 2: watched it look at the Chiefs and say, can they

568
00:24:53,776 --> 00:24:58,015
Speaker 2: sustain these one possession wins through the playoffs against Like

569
00:24:58,416 --> 00:25:01,576
Speaker 2: can they keep doing that? You just almost feel like

570
00:25:01,616 --> 00:25:03,416
Speaker 2: it's got to catch up to them, where there's just

571
00:25:03,735 --> 00:25:07,295
Speaker 2: one game where it's close and Patrick doesn't make the play,

572
00:25:07,416 --> 00:25:09,775
Speaker 2: or you know, they don't block the kick or the

573
00:25:09,856 --> 00:25:12,975
Speaker 2: defense doesn't get like you just feel like that will

574
00:25:13,016 --> 00:25:16,056
Speaker 2: catch up to them. But they've just been better at

575
00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:18,975
Speaker 2: it than anybody else, so you lean in their direction.

576
00:25:19,776 --> 00:25:22,015
Speaker 4: Ert you've been in both situations where you've had the

577
00:25:22,016 --> 00:25:24,176
Speaker 4: first round by been the number one seed, and then

578
00:25:24,215 --> 00:25:25,856
Speaker 4: at the same time you've been a team that has

579
00:25:26,016 --> 00:25:28,815
Speaker 4: had to play in the wildcard round. Talk to us

580
00:25:28,856 --> 00:25:31,336
Speaker 4: a little bit about the mentality of you're playing well

581
00:25:31,336 --> 00:25:32,656
Speaker 4: at the end of the season, you get in it

582
00:25:32,656 --> 00:25:35,255
Speaker 4: as a wild card team and all of a sudden

583
00:25:35,256 --> 00:25:37,775
Speaker 4: you catch fire in the momentum and the advantage of

584
00:25:37,816 --> 00:25:41,776
Speaker 4: that versus Obviously there's an advantage to having that extra week,

585
00:25:41,896 --> 00:25:44,376
Speaker 4: to have that week off to rest your body, have

586
00:25:44,495 --> 00:25:47,496
Speaker 4: that extra week of preparation. But talk to us about

587
00:25:47,536 --> 00:25:49,896
Speaker 4: that team and the mentality of the wild card teams

588
00:25:49,936 --> 00:25:52,255
Speaker 4: coming in and if they can build that momentum and

589
00:25:52,256 --> 00:25:55,376
Speaker 4: what the importance is for teams like that and for

590
00:25:55,455 --> 00:25:56,896
Speaker 4: them to go deep into the playoffs.

591
00:25:57,616 --> 00:26:01,616
Speaker 2: I believe the mentality is built off of where you are, Matt, Yeah,

592
00:26:01,776 --> 00:26:04,176
Speaker 2: you know this, Like if you're the team getting the buy,

593
00:26:04,616 --> 00:26:07,136
Speaker 2: your mentality is, yeah, we've earned this, we get to buy.

594
00:26:07,296 --> 00:26:09,736
Speaker 2: Everybody else has to play. They're gonna beat each other up.

595
00:26:09,856 --> 00:26:12,295
Speaker 2: We don't have to play as many games. This is awesome.

596
00:26:12,816 --> 00:26:14,776
Speaker 2: And then if you don't get the buy, but you're

597
00:26:14,776 --> 00:26:17,296
Speaker 2: playing really well, the mentality is in the locker room

598
00:26:17,416 --> 00:26:19,776
Speaker 2: like we're playing great, let's just get out on the field.

599
00:26:19,816 --> 00:26:22,775
Speaker 2: We're gonna beat everybody that we play. And so that

600
00:26:22,975 --> 00:26:27,176
Speaker 2: becomes so important, is the mentality that goes into making

601
00:26:27,256 --> 00:26:30,616
Speaker 2: that run. And you know, in good teams or teams

602
00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:33,816
Speaker 2: that are playing well can build that mentality, however, they

603
00:26:33,856 --> 00:26:37,575
Speaker 2: want to build that mentality, and so that's exactly what

604
00:26:37,656 --> 00:26:39,896
Speaker 2: we did. No matter you know, which team I was

605
00:26:39,936 --> 00:26:43,735
Speaker 2: on or what situation we were in, we would always

606
00:26:43,816 --> 00:26:46,416
Speaker 2: try to, you know, change the narrative to, oh, we

607
00:26:46,455 --> 00:26:48,376
Speaker 2: don't want to buy, like we don't want to buy,

608
00:26:48,455 --> 00:26:50,696
Speaker 2: We're playing great, we don't want anything to slow down

609
00:26:50,696 --> 00:26:53,296
Speaker 2: the momentum that we had. Let's just go make a run.

610
00:26:53,735 --> 00:26:56,455
Speaker 2: And then obviously on the other side, like we earned

611
00:26:56,455 --> 00:26:59,136
Speaker 2: the buye, we're gonna be sitting back, We're chilling. Everybody's

612
00:26:59,176 --> 00:27:01,056
Speaker 2: getting beat up and has to play an extra game

613
00:27:01,416 --> 00:27:04,416
Speaker 2: travel on the road. So you know, so much of

614
00:27:04,416 --> 00:27:07,136
Speaker 2: this game is as much mental as it is physical

615
00:27:07,455 --> 00:27:11,816
Speaker 2: and convincing yourself that your situation is the best situation,

616
00:27:12,296 --> 00:27:14,856
Speaker 2: you know, whether that's you know, seating who we have

617
00:27:14,975 --> 00:27:17,936
Speaker 2: to play like, you know, I'm sure there's uh you know,

618
00:27:18,056 --> 00:27:19,416
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think right now at the top of

619
00:27:19,455 --> 00:27:22,416
Speaker 2: my head. Uh oh that that that are playing against

620
00:27:22,416 --> 00:27:25,376
Speaker 2: the Texans, right The Texans aren't playing very well, so

621
00:27:25,936 --> 00:27:28,456
Speaker 2: I think it's a Chargers right, yep. So the Chargers

622
00:27:28,455 --> 00:27:30,696
Speaker 2: are like, Okay, I know we're a wild card team,

623
00:27:30,696 --> 00:27:32,775
Speaker 2: but hey, we got the best matchup in the first

624
00:27:32,856 --> 00:27:35,336
Speaker 2: round of the playoffs because we're playing against the team

625
00:27:35,376 --> 00:27:38,015
Speaker 2: that's you know, been kind of limping down the stretch.

626
00:27:38,056 --> 00:27:41,056
Speaker 2: So it's just part of the nature of us athletes

627
00:27:41,176 --> 00:27:43,575
Speaker 2: is Okay, where do we where? Where can we create

628
00:27:43,616 --> 00:27:46,696
Speaker 2: that narrative that fits what we're trying to do, And

629
00:27:46,735 --> 00:27:49,496
Speaker 2: we're just gonna we're gonna pound that narrative because that's

630
00:27:49,536 --> 00:27:51,096
Speaker 2: going to be the reason that we make a run.

631
00:27:51,376 --> 00:27:53,136
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the human nature part of this.

632
00:27:53,215 --> 00:27:56,735
Speaker 5: Like Ben Johnson, offensive coordinator with the Lions, who you know,

633
00:27:56,816 --> 00:27:58,936
Speaker 5: didn't head coach last year, he said, I want to stay.

634
00:27:59,096 --> 00:28:00,975
Speaker 5: I believe in the offense. I'm going to stay with Detroit.

635
00:28:01,616 --> 00:28:03,735
Speaker 5: Great decision. He's killing it. He's going to have whatever

636
00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:06,656
Speaker 5: job probably he wants. However, these jobs are open right now.

637
00:28:06,856 --> 00:28:10,336
Speaker 5: They're interviewing right now. He's not interviewing because he's but still,

638
00:28:10,336 --> 00:28:12,696
Speaker 5: you're a human and it's like that's got to be

639
00:28:12,816 --> 00:28:16,056
Speaker 5: on your mind as well as you enter. And I

640
00:28:16,096 --> 00:28:17,696
Speaker 5: looked a few minutes ago, the lines are favored to

641
00:28:17,696 --> 00:28:19,456
Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl. They're the number one team right

642
00:28:19,495 --> 00:28:22,255
Speaker 5: now as far as like the odds, Like that's the

643
00:28:22,336 --> 00:28:24,495
Speaker 5: human part of that's got to be difficult for somebody, right.

644
00:28:25,096 --> 00:28:28,055
Speaker 2: Would I would think so, like, I don't really know,

645
00:28:28,536 --> 00:28:31,095
Speaker 2: you know, especially when you know you are We use

646
00:28:31,136 --> 00:28:34,215
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson as that example. It's like, you've never been

647
00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:38,256
Speaker 2: a head coach, So this is like your moment, your opportunity.

648
00:28:38,336 --> 00:28:41,256
Speaker 2: You got to be ready for these interviews. You've got

649
00:28:41,296 --> 00:28:44,096
Speaker 2: to be thinking like, Okay, if the season's over and

650
00:28:44,136 --> 00:28:46,056
Speaker 2: I get one of these jobs, like who's going to

651
00:28:46,096 --> 00:28:47,776
Speaker 2: be on my staff? Who am I going to take?

652
00:28:48,176 --> 00:28:52,016
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and then all of that while whatever your

653
00:28:52,096 --> 00:28:56,056
Speaker 2: normal schedule is to prepare and create and build a

654
00:28:56,096 --> 00:28:59,776
Speaker 2: game plan. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't

655
00:28:59,816 --> 00:29:01,815
Speaker 2: know how you balance it. I mean, you know, we

656
00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:05,616
Speaker 2: always said as players too, like you know, family was

657
00:29:05,696 --> 00:29:07,216
Speaker 2: kind of that other side of it. So we talked

658
00:29:07,216 --> 00:29:09,776
Speaker 2: about Ben Johnson the head coaching spot and is current

659
00:29:10,136 --> 00:29:12,136
Speaker 2: like for us it was or for me it was

660
00:29:12,176 --> 00:29:14,576
Speaker 2: the family, Like, okay, so this is the amount of

661
00:29:14,616 --> 00:29:17,056
Speaker 2: time I'm going to spend, you know, preparing for football,

662
00:29:17,216 --> 00:29:20,056
Speaker 2: and then I need to shut that off and try

663
00:29:20,096 --> 00:29:23,376
Speaker 2: to you know, be a dad or a husband or

664
00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:27,256
Speaker 2: or focus on family over here. And it was really

665
00:29:27,376 --> 00:29:29,936
Speaker 2: hard to do. You know, it was hard to, you know,

666
00:29:30,216 --> 00:29:32,976
Speaker 2: for those things not to get all mixed together and

667
00:29:33,096 --> 00:29:35,096
Speaker 2: me thinking about football when I should be at home,

668
00:29:35,216 --> 00:29:37,376
Speaker 2: or me thinking about you know, family and something that

669
00:29:37,416 --> 00:29:39,056
Speaker 2: was going on when I should be at football and

670
00:29:39,856 --> 00:29:42,896
Speaker 2: balancing that out. So I would have to think that

671
00:29:42,936 --> 00:29:44,856
Speaker 2: would be a huge I mean, I don't think you can.

672
00:29:45,336 --> 00:29:47,815
Speaker 2: You know, if if somebody's calling me today and going

673
00:29:47,896 --> 00:29:50,216
Speaker 2: to do a you know, head coaching intergy interview with

674
00:29:50,216 --> 00:29:52,976
Speaker 2: me today while we're getting ready for a playoff game

675
00:29:53,016 --> 00:29:55,616
Speaker 2: a week and a half from now, Yeah, I mean

676
00:29:55,776 --> 00:29:57,936
Speaker 2: I think you're fully focused on, Okay, how do I

677
00:29:57,936 --> 00:29:59,536
Speaker 2: get this head coaching job? You know, what do I

678
00:29:59,576 --> 00:30:01,496
Speaker 2: need to do and how do I have everything in place?

679
00:30:02,456 --> 00:30:04,696
Speaker 2: And your current team has to take a little bit

680
00:30:04,696 --> 00:30:08,096
Speaker 2: of a backseat in that regard. So figuring out that

681
00:30:08,176 --> 00:30:10,096
Speaker 2: balance I think has to be key. But I think

682
00:30:10,136 --> 00:30:14,136
Speaker 2: you're one unred percent right. Human nature is going to say, Okay,

683
00:30:14,176 --> 00:30:17,456
Speaker 2: I'm going to lean towards you know, I'm gonna have

684
00:30:17,496 --> 00:30:20,456
Speaker 2: to lean into both of them and probably take some

685
00:30:20,896 --> 00:30:23,496
Speaker 2: time away from you know, the current task at hand

686
00:30:24,136 --> 00:30:25,336
Speaker 2: for the future task at hand.

687
00:30:25,896 --> 00:30:27,736
Speaker 4: You played in a lot of these playoff games and

688
00:30:27,776 --> 00:30:31,936
Speaker 4: we are having this discussion before. But Bobby was asking me,

689
00:30:32,536 --> 00:30:36,336
Speaker 4: how does it change going into playoffs, like your mentality

690
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:39,856
Speaker 4: and you know that the intensity goes up tenfold. But

691
00:30:40,616 --> 00:30:42,816
Speaker 4: were you one of those players that had a specific

692
00:30:42,936 --> 00:30:45,736
Speaker 4: routine and tried to stick to that routine not make

693
00:30:45,776 --> 00:30:47,656
Speaker 4: it bigger than it was? Were you also one of

694
00:30:47,656 --> 00:30:50,336
Speaker 4: those quarterbacks? Look, I hated that feeling I used to

695
00:30:50,376 --> 00:30:52,856
Speaker 4: get before the game. I always got those knots in

696
00:30:52,896 --> 00:30:55,176
Speaker 4: my stomach. Oh, would over analyze, do all those But

697
00:30:55,336 --> 00:30:57,416
Speaker 4: once you got out on the field, you get hit

698
00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,296
Speaker 4: for the first time and you start to process and

699
00:30:59,296 --> 00:31:01,096
Speaker 4: you go, hey, this is just football. I got to

700
00:31:01,096 --> 00:31:04,575
Speaker 4: be reactionary, rely on my preparation what I need to do.

701
00:31:04,616 --> 00:31:07,296
Speaker 4: But what time type of mentality you have going into

702
00:31:07,296 --> 00:31:07,856
Speaker 4: these type of.

703
00:31:07,776 --> 00:31:12,176
Speaker 2: Weeks, Yeah, playoffs was different. And so I was one

704
00:31:12,216 --> 00:31:14,575
Speaker 2: of those guys that was really good at focusing. And

705
00:31:14,656 --> 00:31:18,056
Speaker 2: so my kids still joke to this day, like, you know,

706
00:31:18,136 --> 00:31:20,456
Speaker 2: even if I'm if I'm sending you a text, Matt,

707
00:31:20,896 --> 00:31:22,616
Speaker 2: and my kids are in the room with me, and

708
00:31:22,656 --> 00:31:26,575
Speaker 2: they're like, dad, dad, Dad, I don't hear them because, like,

709
00:31:26,616 --> 00:31:28,416
Speaker 2: I'm focused on what I'm trying to say to you

710
00:31:28,456 --> 00:31:31,056
Speaker 2: in the text, and I just tune out all the

711
00:31:31,096 --> 00:31:33,056
Speaker 2: other noise, and they're like, Dad, we're trying to get

712
00:31:33,096 --> 00:31:35,896
Speaker 2: your attention, Like all you're doing is texting. But I

713
00:31:35,936 --> 00:31:39,416
Speaker 2: had an uncanny ability to focus, which obviously a lot

714
00:31:39,416 --> 00:31:41,616
Speaker 2: of guys at our level and sisily playing quarterback with

715
00:31:41,656 --> 00:31:44,656
Speaker 2: seventy thousand people, you know, have that ability to focus.

716
00:31:45,096 --> 00:31:48,896
Speaker 2: But during you know, the normal week, it would come

717
00:31:48,936 --> 00:31:51,936
Speaker 2: about three thirty four o'clock on a Saturday afternoon and

718
00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:54,816
Speaker 2: my wife would be like, all right, he's in the zone.

719
00:31:55,296 --> 00:31:58,136
Speaker 2: Go to the hotel, go to your room, like get like,

720
00:31:58,376 --> 00:32:00,536
Speaker 2: no reason for you to be around anymore because you're

721
00:32:00,576 --> 00:32:03,816
Speaker 2: you're a different guy. When I got into the playoffs,

722
00:32:04,216 --> 00:32:07,096
Speaker 2: it was always like I had to tell my wife, Okay, honey,

723
00:32:07,096 --> 00:32:09,176
Speaker 2: I know in the past, you've given me twenty four

724
00:32:09,176 --> 00:32:13,296
Speaker 2: hours forty eight hours. Now I need four weeks. Like

725
00:32:13,656 --> 00:32:15,256
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a good dad, I'm not

726
00:32:15,296 --> 00:32:17,376
Speaker 2: going to be a good husband. I am locking in

727
00:32:17,416 --> 00:32:19,616
Speaker 2: for the next four weeks and it's going to be

728
00:32:19,656 --> 00:32:21,736
Speaker 2: all football and it's all focused on trying to win

729
00:32:21,776 --> 00:32:24,496
Speaker 2: a championship and then we can celebrate and go on

730
00:32:24,536 --> 00:32:27,776
Speaker 2: trips and do that afterwards. But it was really that

731
00:32:27,976 --> 00:32:29,976
Speaker 2: kind of change for me, Matt, where it was like

732
00:32:30,736 --> 00:32:33,176
Speaker 2: I could never get it off my mind and I

733
00:32:33,216 --> 00:32:36,216
Speaker 2: didn't really want to, Like I didn't want to separate

734
00:32:36,256 --> 00:32:38,296
Speaker 2: it at that point, Like I knew it was all

735
00:32:38,336 --> 00:32:41,256
Speaker 2: about the regular Season's great, but the regular season was

736
00:32:41,296 --> 00:32:42,896
Speaker 2: just set me up to have a chance to win

737
00:32:42,936 --> 00:32:45,976
Speaker 2: it all. So once we got into the playoffs, that

738
00:32:46,176 --> 00:32:49,336
Speaker 2: was it. Like everything else is gone, everything else is

739
00:32:49,376 --> 00:32:53,256
Speaker 2: pushed out. I'm sorry, but this is my focus. And

740
00:32:54,456 --> 00:32:56,056
Speaker 2: you know, and just like we were talking about the

741
00:32:56,056 --> 00:32:59,896
Speaker 2: split focus and bounce, I wasn't even looking to balance anymore.

742
00:33:00,456 --> 00:33:04,016
Speaker 2: My mindset was, Okay, we're playing Sunday. I am not

743
00:33:04,176 --> 00:33:07,696
Speaker 2: taking a minute off in terms of my preparation so

744
00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,816
Speaker 2: I can be the best that I can be on Sunday.

745
00:33:10,336 --> 00:33:12,216
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously my mindset was, I want to

746
00:33:12,256 --> 00:33:14,176
Speaker 2: do it for four weeks because it's going to end

747
00:33:14,256 --> 00:33:16,696
Speaker 2: up by us being in the super Bowl and hopefully

748
00:33:16,736 --> 00:33:17,096
Speaker 2: winning it.

749
00:33:17,256 --> 00:33:18,776
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Steelers for a second,

750
00:33:18,816 --> 00:33:19,736
Speaker 1: because it feels.

751
00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:23,536
Speaker 5: Like they are always one, like like the halfway house

752
00:33:23,616 --> 00:33:27,016
Speaker 5: of winning. They don't lose enough because in the NBA,

753
00:33:27,136 --> 00:33:29,376
Speaker 5: if you're mid in the NBA, you do not get

754
00:33:29,376 --> 00:33:30,096
Speaker 5: a top draft pick.

755
00:33:30,136 --> 00:33:31,016
Speaker 6: You do not get better.

756
00:33:31,256 --> 00:33:34,936
Speaker 5: If you're winning five hundred, you're just going to stay.

757
00:33:34,976 --> 00:33:37,136
Speaker 5: You almost have to bomb out to get way better.

758
00:33:37,616 --> 00:33:40,216
Speaker 5: The Steelers never do that. They always Tomlin has a

759
00:33:40,216 --> 00:33:42,816
Speaker 5: winning record every year. And so here they are again

760
00:33:43,096 --> 00:33:46,496
Speaker 5: not playing well now, but they're in the playoffs. But

761
00:33:46,576 --> 00:33:49,136
Speaker 5: do they need to lose and get a top pick

762
00:33:49,176 --> 00:33:51,296
Speaker 5: in order to move forward because I feel like they're

763
00:33:51,296 --> 00:33:52,576
Speaker 5: in the same spot every year.

764
00:33:52,936 --> 00:33:57,696
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right now for the Steelers, they need

765
00:33:57,776 --> 00:34:01,856
Speaker 2: to find a quarterback like that, that's just the nature

766
00:34:01,896 --> 00:34:05,096
Speaker 2: of our business anymore, like either have one or you

767
00:34:05,136 --> 00:34:08,336
Speaker 2: don't in terms of having one that you believe can

768
00:34:08,416 --> 00:34:12,576
Speaker 2: win a championship or you don't. And if you don't

769
00:34:12,656 --> 00:34:14,616
Speaker 2: have one of those guys, it's going to be a

770
00:34:14,656 --> 00:34:16,976
Speaker 2: struggle week in and week out, and it's going to

771
00:34:17,016 --> 00:34:19,936
Speaker 2: be a struggle come playoff time. And so you know,

772
00:34:19,976 --> 00:34:22,496
Speaker 2: when Big Ben was there, they were always competitive and

773
00:34:22,536 --> 00:34:24,376
Speaker 2: they always had a chance to win in the playoffs.

774
00:34:24,376 --> 00:34:27,816
Speaker 2: And you know, and since Big Ben, they just haven't

775
00:34:27,856 --> 00:34:31,016
Speaker 2: had that guy. I still think, you know, I still

776
00:34:31,016 --> 00:34:32,936
Speaker 2: think there are a couple pieces away, but I think

777
00:34:32,976 --> 00:34:36,496
Speaker 2: they have a good football team. Like if you took

778
00:34:36,656 --> 00:34:40,776
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and put them on this team. I think

779
00:34:40,816 --> 00:34:43,736
Speaker 2: we'd be looking at this team completely differently, and I

780
00:34:43,736 --> 00:34:46,896
Speaker 2: think we'd say this team has a chance to win

781
00:34:46,936 --> 00:34:49,936
Speaker 2: a championship. You know, you put Josh Allen on this

782
00:34:50,016 --> 00:34:52,896
Speaker 2: team with that defense and that run game and a

783
00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:55,776
Speaker 2: couple of the playmakers on the outside, Lamar Jackson. So

784
00:34:56,656 --> 00:35:00,176
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a huge overhaul for them. I

785
00:35:00,176 --> 00:35:02,016
Speaker 2: think they need to add some pieces on the outside.

786
00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:04,936
Speaker 2: They're skilled players. But I think it's as much as anything.

787
00:35:05,456 --> 00:35:07,016
Speaker 2: I look at this league every year, I look at

788
00:35:07,056 --> 00:35:10,016
Speaker 2: the playoffs every year and I say, who's got a

789
00:35:10,056 --> 00:35:11,936
Speaker 2: chance to win a championship? Who's got a chance to

790
00:35:12,016 --> 00:35:14,936
Speaker 2: win in the playoffs, And it's all based around having

791
00:35:14,936 --> 00:35:19,176
Speaker 2: a guy at that position that is different and you know,

792
00:35:19,656 --> 00:35:21,376
Speaker 2: can be different in a lot of different ways, but

793
00:35:21,416 --> 00:35:24,896
Speaker 2: that's different than everybody else. And I think that's more

794
00:35:24,896 --> 00:35:27,176
Speaker 2: than anything else, what the Steelers are missing right now.

795
00:35:27,216 --> 00:35:29,816
Speaker 5: But to get a quarterback, especially even like this year,

796
00:35:29,856 --> 00:35:32,656
Speaker 5: a should or a cam Ward who's going to go one, two,

797
00:35:32,736 --> 00:35:34,856
Speaker 5: three and two of those top three spots. Last year

798
00:35:34,896 --> 00:35:37,136
Speaker 5: you saw like to get one of those top picks,

799
00:35:37,176 --> 00:35:40,776
Speaker 5: you've either got to trade something valuable or suck and

800
00:35:40,776 --> 00:35:43,656
Speaker 5: it's they have a lot of great players, but like

801
00:35:43,656 --> 00:35:45,776
Speaker 5: you said, they cannot find that quarterback.

802
00:35:47,096 --> 00:35:49,896
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I know that's how we look at

803
00:35:49,976 --> 00:35:52,496
Speaker 2: it in the big picture, and that may be the

804
00:35:52,496 --> 00:35:55,456
Speaker 2: case this year, but let's also look at bon Niggs.

805
00:35:55,696 --> 00:35:57,456
Speaker 2: You know, bo Nicks has got his team in the

806
00:35:57,456 --> 00:36:00,576
Speaker 2: playoffs and he was a mid range pick. Lamar Jackson

807
00:36:00,616 --> 00:36:02,936
Speaker 2: was the thirty first pick in the first round, and

808
00:36:03,376 --> 00:36:06,256
Speaker 2: we know what Lamar Jackson has has been and so

809
00:36:07,256 --> 00:36:09,096
Speaker 2: I don't think there's you know, I don't think it

810
00:36:09,176 --> 00:36:13,856
Speaker 2: has to be a top pick, you know. I just think, again,

811
00:36:14,416 --> 00:36:18,416
Speaker 2: the landscape is different, you know, around the NFL or

812
00:36:18,416 --> 00:36:20,936
Speaker 2: in the draft every single year. But you've got to

813
00:36:20,976 --> 00:36:23,416
Speaker 2: find one of those guys. I mean, maybe it's going

814
00:36:23,456 --> 00:36:26,056
Speaker 2: out and maybe it's Sam Donald. You know, again, I

815
00:36:26,056 --> 00:36:27,896
Speaker 2: don't know, he's had one great year. I don't know

816
00:36:27,896 --> 00:36:29,736
Speaker 2: if that's going to be Sam the rest of his career.

817
00:36:30,416 --> 00:36:31,815
Speaker 2: But maybe that's the guy.

818
00:36:31,976 --> 00:36:32,096
Speaker 6: You know.

819
00:36:32,176 --> 00:36:34,216
Speaker 2: Obviously, they went out and got a couple of quarterbacks

820
00:36:34,216 --> 00:36:36,616
Speaker 2: this year in hopes that one of them was the guy.

821
00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:39,136
Speaker 2: But but that's not the case. So I just don't

822
00:36:39,136 --> 00:36:42,536
Speaker 2: think there's only one way to play it. You know,

823
00:36:42,576 --> 00:36:45,696
Speaker 2: maybe Sam Donald stays in Minnesota, and maybe Pittsburgh goes

824
00:36:45,696 --> 00:36:48,576
Speaker 2: and gets JJ McCarthy and maybe that's the guy that

825
00:36:48,616 --> 00:36:52,776
Speaker 2: they find a way to build around. So yeah, when

826
00:36:52,776 --> 00:36:54,736
Speaker 2: you're in the middle or end of the first round,

827
00:36:55,256 --> 00:36:57,056
Speaker 2: you probably have to be a little bit more creative

828
00:36:57,136 --> 00:36:58,976
Speaker 2: or a little bit more convicted or dive in a

829
00:36:59,016 --> 00:37:02,256
Speaker 2: little bit deeper to finding a guy that maybe isn't

830
00:37:02,576 --> 00:37:06,296
Speaker 2: the top pick in the draft. You know, but you know,

831
00:37:06,376 --> 00:37:08,016
Speaker 2: Matt and I might be able to sit here and

832
00:37:08,056 --> 00:37:10,016
Speaker 2: tell you, like, there's some of those guys out there.

833
00:37:10,096 --> 00:37:12,056
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you don't need to be I mean.

834
00:37:12,976 --> 00:37:16,016
Speaker 2: That were drafted in the top five, so you know,

835
00:37:16,056 --> 00:37:17,416
Speaker 2: so I think there's other ways to do it.

836
00:37:17,576 --> 00:37:19,016
Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at this rookie class, you

837
00:37:19,056 --> 00:37:21,296
Speaker 4: got two rookie quarterbacks playing obviously in the playoffs with

838
00:37:21,336 --> 00:37:23,776
Speaker 4: Bo Nicks, and then you got Jayde Daniels who's having

839
00:37:23,816 --> 00:37:26,336
Speaker 4: a phenomenal year. But then you look at some of

840
00:37:26,376 --> 00:37:28,456
Speaker 4: these other quarterbacks that were drafted in this first round.

841
00:37:28,456 --> 00:37:31,896
Speaker 4: Pinnicks played late, obviously, Drake May went through his struggles.

842
00:37:31,896 --> 00:37:34,616
Speaker 4: But how much of the success of these young quarterbacks

843
00:37:34,656 --> 00:37:37,656
Speaker 4: coming in the league, because you know, not always the

844
00:37:37,696 --> 00:37:41,616
Speaker 4: college offensive scheme correlates to the NFL. And I've heard

845
00:37:41,656 --> 00:37:43,576
Speaker 4: you say it before, like it's hard to watch films

846
00:37:43,616 --> 00:37:45,256
Speaker 4: sometimes on these guys and see how it's going to

847
00:37:45,256 --> 00:37:46,296
Speaker 4: translate to the next level.

848
00:37:46,696 --> 00:37:49,936
Speaker 6: How much of it is system fit in your opinion.

849
00:37:51,456 --> 00:37:54,216
Speaker 2: I think most of it is system fit. But I

850
00:37:54,256 --> 00:37:57,776
Speaker 2: think the problem, man, is that we don't always know

851
00:37:58,336 --> 00:38:01,216
Speaker 2: what the perfect system fit is for a quarterback right

852
00:38:01,576 --> 00:38:03,896
Speaker 2: until we see it, you know. So, like c J.

853
00:38:04,016 --> 00:38:05,815
Speaker 2: Stroud was a great example to me. Like I thought

854
00:38:05,856 --> 00:38:09,536
Speaker 2: CJ was really good at Ohio State. I didn't know

855
00:38:09,576 --> 00:38:12,776
Speaker 2: if I thought he could be transcendent based on what

856
00:38:12,856 --> 00:38:15,776
Speaker 2: I saw at Ohio State because of the way and

857
00:38:15,816 --> 00:38:18,136
Speaker 2: the nature of how they played the game and you know,

858
00:38:18,176 --> 00:38:20,256
Speaker 2: throwing the ball down the field more and doing some

859
00:38:20,456 --> 00:38:23,416
Speaker 2: that big passing game. And then his first year in

860
00:38:23,496 --> 00:38:26,496
Speaker 2: Houston and they were asking him to read and get

861
00:38:26,496 --> 00:38:29,056
Speaker 2: the ball out and throw it quick and do all

862
00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:31,336
Speaker 2: this intermediate stuff. And I was like, oh my gosh,

863
00:38:31,856 --> 00:38:34,176
Speaker 2: this guy's way better than I thought he was. Like

864
00:38:34,216 --> 00:38:36,856
Speaker 2: I didn't know he had all this in him, but

865
00:38:36,936 --> 00:38:39,256
Speaker 2: I didn't know because he didn't get a chance to

866
00:38:39,296 --> 00:38:41,936
Speaker 2: show it to us. I think Drake May was the

867
00:38:41,976 --> 00:38:46,176
Speaker 2: guy for me this year that you know, coming out

868
00:38:46,216 --> 00:38:49,136
Speaker 2: of last year, you know, I didn't like his footwork

869
00:38:49,376 --> 00:38:50,736
Speaker 2: and you know, I thought he was kind of all

870
00:38:50,776 --> 00:38:53,016
Speaker 2: over some times on the reads, and you know, so

871
00:38:53,176 --> 00:38:55,616
Speaker 2: I really didn't know how he was going to translate

872
00:38:56,296 --> 00:38:59,736
Speaker 2: to the NFL. I saw some of that stuff in preseason,

873
00:38:59,936 --> 00:39:04,256
Speaker 2: but when he actually became the starter, he played really

874
00:39:04,296 --> 00:39:08,976
Speaker 2: really good football in terms of consistent withness rows, that

875
00:39:09,176 --> 00:39:12,176
Speaker 2: his eyes were in the right spot most of the time,

876
00:39:12,256 --> 00:39:15,296
Speaker 2: in terms of making reads and getting there on time.

877
00:39:15,456 --> 00:39:17,736
Speaker 2: And I was kind of blown away with what I

878
00:39:17,776 --> 00:39:19,616
Speaker 2: saw in New England, and they had a lot of

879
00:39:19,656 --> 00:39:23,216
Speaker 2: limitations around him, but I thought he played really really

880
00:39:23,256 --> 00:39:25,656
Speaker 2: well this year. If you're just looking at the quarterback

881
00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:29,016
Speaker 2: position and what you want your quarterback to be seeing

882
00:39:29,296 --> 00:39:31,136
Speaker 2: and when you want him to be throwing it, and

883
00:39:31,496 --> 00:39:34,256
Speaker 2: the decision making that he had, I thought he was

884
00:39:34,296 --> 00:39:36,976
Speaker 2: really good. And it wasn't what I saw, you know,

885
00:39:37,016 --> 00:39:39,056
Speaker 2: specifically last year. You know, it's a little bit better

886
00:39:39,136 --> 00:39:41,736
Speaker 2: the year before in college, but last year in college,

887
00:39:41,736 --> 00:39:45,416
Speaker 2: it wasn't what I saw. So I didn't really know.

888
00:39:46,056 --> 00:39:48,136
Speaker 2: And then I guess we could use a Jaden Daniels

889
00:39:48,136 --> 00:39:51,456
Speaker 2: who this isn't exactly who he was at dollege, you know, like,

890
00:39:52,696 --> 00:39:54,416
Speaker 2: you know, if you're taking a guy and saying, Okay,

891
00:39:54,416 --> 00:39:56,736
Speaker 2: this is exactly what I saw, and then you place

892
00:39:56,776 --> 00:39:58,855
Speaker 2: it and you're like, oh my gosh, it's the same guy,

893
00:39:59,376 --> 00:40:02,056
Speaker 2: and he's in a system that seems very similar. But

894
00:40:02,136 --> 00:40:05,296
Speaker 2: he's doing all of those things. Which is another question

895
00:40:05,416 --> 00:40:08,256
Speaker 2: that you always fight with as an analyst or probably

896
00:40:08,296 --> 00:40:10,896
Speaker 2: as a coach, is like, Okay, he's really good in college,

897
00:40:10,976 --> 00:40:13,536
Speaker 2: but you know, he can't be the same guy in

898
00:40:13,576 --> 00:40:16,136
Speaker 2: the NFL CA any like, you know, because it's different.

899
00:40:16,896 --> 00:40:18,936
Speaker 2: He looks like exactly the same guy. So the guy

900
00:40:18,976 --> 00:40:20,536
Speaker 2: that won the Heisman last year that was the best

901
00:40:20,536 --> 00:40:24,616
Speaker 2: player in college football is the best rookie quarterback and

902
00:40:24,936 --> 00:40:26,416
Speaker 2: you know it was one of the top quarterbacks in

903
00:40:26,416 --> 00:40:29,696
Speaker 2: the league. And it's because he's doing the exact same

904
00:40:29,816 --> 00:40:32,656
Speaker 2: things that he did. And it's obviously why it's such

905
00:40:32,656 --> 00:40:36,256
Speaker 2: an inexact science is because you don't know if what

906
00:40:36,336 --> 00:40:38,336
Speaker 2: were in college is the best that they've got. You

907
00:40:38,336 --> 00:40:40,896
Speaker 2: don't know if the system fits him, you don't know

908
00:40:40,936 --> 00:40:44,416
Speaker 2: how it's going to translate. And sure enough, we've got

909
00:40:44,456 --> 00:40:46,496
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys that have played really really well

910
00:40:46,896 --> 00:40:50,936
Speaker 2: in the pros you know already this rookie year. And

911
00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:52,976
Speaker 2: you know, I think there's some different elements there, but

912
00:40:53,016 --> 00:40:57,016
Speaker 2: I think fits is extremely important. And you know, the

913
00:40:57,096 --> 00:40:59,976
Speaker 2: quarterback being able to see the game the way the

914
00:41:00,016 --> 00:41:02,096
Speaker 2: play caller designs the game or the way the play

915
00:41:02,096 --> 00:41:05,096
Speaker 2: calor calls the game. If your quarterback sees it the

916
00:41:05,136 --> 00:41:09,335
Speaker 2: same way, it gives you, you know, and a much

917
00:41:09,336 --> 00:41:11,456
Speaker 2: better chance of succeeding, especially early.

918
00:41:26,736 --> 00:41:28,656
Speaker 1: I tell jokes, that's how I make my living.

919
00:41:28,736 --> 00:41:33,176
Speaker 5: So my NFL personnel scouting is not a tiptop like

920
00:41:33,216 --> 00:41:36,815
Speaker 5: probably yours or Matt says. So this question is really

921
00:41:36,856 --> 00:41:39,096
Speaker 5: just like a dude asking how do they miss? How

922
00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:41,616
Speaker 5: do you miss on a quarterback? How do you miss

923
00:41:41,896 --> 00:41:43,696
Speaker 5: when it's a top five to seven to ten pick

924
00:41:43,736 --> 00:41:45,216
Speaker 5: and then they end up not being what you thought

925
00:41:45,216 --> 00:41:48,056
Speaker 5: they were after all the time, money efforts, science.

926
00:41:48,496 --> 00:41:50,816
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think, you know, I think there's

927
00:41:51,056 --> 00:41:52,256
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of ways to look at it.

928
00:41:52,336 --> 00:41:54,936
Speaker 2: I think, first of all, you know, we throw around,

929
00:41:55,056 --> 00:41:59,136
Speaker 2: especially come draft time. This guy's ceiling, oh, this guy's

930
00:41:59,176 --> 00:42:02,816
Speaker 2: stealing is so high, And my question is always how

931
00:42:02,816 --> 00:42:05,336
Speaker 2: do you know with ceiling unless he's been there, Like,

932
00:42:05,696 --> 00:42:07,776
Speaker 2: how do you know what a ceiling is until he's

933
00:42:07,776 --> 00:42:10,816
Speaker 2: shown us what is ceiling? So we throw around this

934
00:42:10,896 --> 00:42:14,896
Speaker 2: word ceiling as if somebody is going to get infinitely

935
00:42:15,016 --> 00:42:18,736
Speaker 2: better at the next level. I have no idea why

936
00:42:18,776 --> 00:42:22,256
Speaker 2: we do that. Because a guy can run really fast

937
00:42:22,296 --> 00:42:26,336
Speaker 2: and throw really far, we think he's ultimately going to

938
00:42:26,696 --> 00:42:29,136
Speaker 2: be able to think really fast and process really well.

939
00:42:29,176 --> 00:42:33,016
Speaker 2: And like, I don't know, but that's the term we've

940
00:42:33,096 --> 00:42:35,576
Speaker 2: come to use for all of these guys, and a

941
00:42:35,576 --> 00:42:38,856
Speaker 2: lot of times it's the really athletic guys, right because

942
00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:42,416
Speaker 2: we say to ourselves, they've got this unbelievable physical skill

943
00:42:42,496 --> 00:42:46,616
Speaker 2: set that now, if their mental skill set matches their

944
00:42:46,656 --> 00:42:49,976
Speaker 2: physical skill set, their ceiling is way up here. But

945
00:42:50,016 --> 00:42:51,776
Speaker 2: we have no idea if that's ever going to happen.

946
00:42:52,216 --> 00:42:55,696
Speaker 2: And so that's how you miss is that we project

947
00:42:55,696 --> 00:42:59,536
Speaker 2: the guy's ceiling when we don't know what a ceiling is.

948
00:42:59,896 --> 00:43:02,976
Speaker 2: I have seen plenty of college quarterbacks come into the

949
00:43:03,056 --> 00:43:06,976
Speaker 2: NFL and five years, you know, into the NFL, they

950
00:43:06,976 --> 00:43:10,696
Speaker 2: are the exact same quarterback they were in college. They

951
00:43:10,696 --> 00:43:13,856
Speaker 2: didn't get better, they didn't improve in any area. So

952
00:43:14,056 --> 00:43:17,176
Speaker 2: now they get swallowed up in the NFL because what

953
00:43:17,296 --> 00:43:19,536
Speaker 2: they were in college is just isn't good enough in

954
00:43:19,576 --> 00:43:22,416
Speaker 2: the NFL. And we've seen other guys like a Tom Brady,

955
00:43:22,776 --> 00:43:26,336
Speaker 2: who was, you know, good college quarterback, Like you know,

956
00:43:26,496 --> 00:43:28,376
Speaker 2: he wasn't even a great college court. He was a

957
00:43:28,376 --> 00:43:31,096
Speaker 2: good college quarterback, and we saw him come into the

958
00:43:31,176 --> 00:43:35,376
Speaker 2: league and every year he got better. Like he's like

959
00:43:35,456 --> 00:43:37,616
Speaker 2: fifty seven years old, and I'm not sure he's hit

960
00:43:37,616 --> 00:43:39,856
Speaker 2: his ceiling yet, Like I don't even know, Like he

961
00:43:39,896 --> 00:43:42,856
Speaker 2: could probably come back and be even better. Like it was.

962
00:43:43,096 --> 00:43:45,576
Speaker 2: It was amazing to watch because you're like, how does

963
00:43:45,616 --> 00:43:48,576
Speaker 2: this guy get better? How is this guy throwing forty

964
00:43:48,616 --> 00:43:51,816
Speaker 2: touchdown passes at forty five years old? Like you just

965
00:43:51,896 --> 00:43:54,815
Speaker 2: couldn't figure it out. But but that's the other side

966
00:43:54,816 --> 00:43:57,496
Speaker 2: of it, is that average quarterback, Like we've all seen

967
00:43:57,496 --> 00:43:59,976
Speaker 2: the pictures at the you know, Combine, and we've all

968
00:44:00,136 --> 00:44:03,456
Speaker 2: know where he was drafted overall because he was average

969
00:44:03,456 --> 00:44:06,896
Speaker 2: in college, but just got better and got better and

970
00:44:06,936 --> 00:44:09,256
Speaker 2: got better. And you know, you could probably stay the

971
00:44:09,296 --> 00:44:10,936
Speaker 2: same about me, Like I sat on the bench for

972
00:44:10,976 --> 00:44:13,376
Speaker 2: four years in college, so people didn't even know who

973
00:44:13,416 --> 00:44:16,496
Speaker 2: I was as a quarterback. But you know, playing an

974
00:44:16,496 --> 00:44:19,416
Speaker 2: arena football in Europe, I think helped me to develop

975
00:44:19,496 --> 00:44:21,056
Speaker 2: so that when I got back into the league, I

976
00:44:21,136 --> 00:44:23,736
Speaker 2: was a better quarterback. I was closer to my ceiling

977
00:44:24,256 --> 00:44:27,536
Speaker 2: at that point, but nobody knew that. Like all everybody

978
00:44:27,576 --> 00:44:29,136
Speaker 2: would see is like, well, the ceiling's not very high.

979
00:44:29,176 --> 00:44:31,376
Speaker 2: Because he's sat on the bench for four years at

980
00:44:31,376 --> 00:44:35,136
Speaker 2: an FCS school, he must not be very good. But

981
00:44:35,216 --> 00:44:38,096
Speaker 2: we don't really know. And that's why we miss is

982
00:44:38,136 --> 00:44:40,976
Speaker 2: because you know, if if there was a chart out

983
00:44:40,976 --> 00:44:43,816
Speaker 2: there that said, Okay, Matt ceiling is right here and

984
00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:47,216
Speaker 2: he's playing at this level, then we could go, oh, okay,

985
00:44:47,256 --> 00:44:49,416
Speaker 2: he's only got a little ways to go. Let's go

986
00:44:49,456 --> 00:44:51,976
Speaker 2: find the guy. But but you know, it's not out there,

987
00:44:52,016 --> 00:44:54,296
Speaker 2: and so it's just a crapshoot. Most of the time.

988
00:44:55,216 --> 00:44:57,736
Speaker 4: You're like one of the greatest redemption stories of all time.

989
00:44:57,776 --> 00:45:00,376
Speaker 4: And then you've got guys you have to appreciate it.

990
00:45:00,416 --> 00:45:02,776
Speaker 4: I'm guessing as an analyst, when you see a guy

991
00:45:02,776 --> 00:45:05,936
Speaker 4: like Baker Mayfield what he's done over the last two seasons,

992
00:45:05,976 --> 00:45:08,856
Speaker 4: are a guy like Sam Darnold, who these guys were

993
00:45:09,096 --> 00:45:12,176
Speaker 4: high draft picks but were written off, you know, just

994
00:45:12,216 --> 00:45:14,536
Speaker 4: a few years ago, and then they come back, they

995
00:45:14,576 --> 00:45:17,096
Speaker 4: get into the right system, they have the right offense,

996
00:45:17,216 --> 00:45:19,496
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they excel. Even Bryce Young

997
00:45:19,536 --> 00:45:22,896
Speaker 4: this year gets bench shirley on. Everybody's saying, oh, this

998
00:45:22,936 --> 00:45:24,816
Speaker 4: kid's going to be a bus He's not this, that

999
00:45:24,976 --> 00:45:26,736
Speaker 4: or the other, and then he comes out and plays

1000
00:45:26,776 --> 00:45:28,376
Speaker 4: tremendously well down the stretch.

1001
00:45:28,776 --> 00:45:31,056
Speaker 6: Do you love why? I mean, I know I do,

1002
00:45:31,336 --> 00:45:31,816
Speaker 6: But do you.

1003
00:45:31,776 --> 00:45:35,456
Speaker 4: Love and appreciate that aspect of the NFL and for

1004
00:45:35,536 --> 00:45:37,776
Speaker 4: guys like that and what they've been able to do

1005
00:45:37,816 --> 00:45:38,296
Speaker 4: this season?

1006
00:45:38,616 --> 00:45:42,176
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And I think different stories different ways. So

1007
00:45:42,816 --> 00:45:45,776
Speaker 2: like you said, I can you know, associate with the

1008
00:45:45,856 --> 00:45:49,176
Speaker 2: Jared Goffs and the Baker Mayfield, who are guys that

1009
00:45:49,936 --> 00:45:53,456
Speaker 2: in their first spot. I believe we're starting quarterbacks in

1010
00:45:53,496 --> 00:45:56,855
Speaker 2: the NFL, like really good quarterbacks like Bakers should still

1011
00:45:56,896 --> 00:46:00,576
Speaker 2: be in Cleveland. You know, I understand the Rams and

1012
00:46:00,816 --> 00:46:03,736
Speaker 2: getting Matthew Stafford, and you know, you can say what

1013
00:46:03,816 --> 00:46:08,176
Speaker 2: you want there because obviously staff is incredible. But Jared

1014
00:46:08,496 --> 00:46:10,656
Speaker 2: led them to a super Bowl in you know, his

1015
00:46:10,736 --> 00:46:12,776
Speaker 2: first few years. I mean it was playing really really

1016
00:46:12,776 --> 00:46:15,536
Speaker 2: good football. So he was a good player. And so

1017
00:46:16,016 --> 00:46:18,696
Speaker 2: I understand that because I played really well in Saint

1018
00:46:18,776 --> 00:46:21,736
Speaker 2: Louis and then they kind of said, hey, yeah, we're

1019
00:46:21,776 --> 00:46:24,216
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna go a different direction, and then being

1020
00:46:24,256 --> 00:46:27,496
Speaker 2: able to come back and show people like I was

1021
00:46:27,496 --> 00:46:29,496
Speaker 2: never not that guy, Like I don't know what you

1022
00:46:29,536 --> 00:46:31,456
Speaker 2: saw or why you decided that, but I was never.

1023
00:46:31,536 --> 00:46:34,216
Speaker 2: So I loved those stories like I love you know,

1024
00:46:34,496 --> 00:46:37,176
Speaker 2: Baker and Jared and the success that they're having, and

1025
00:46:37,296 --> 00:46:39,656
Speaker 2: kind of going, I don't know what you guys were thinking,

1026
00:46:39,696 --> 00:46:42,416
Speaker 2: but this is who I've been all along. And then

1027
00:46:43,016 --> 00:46:46,336
Speaker 2: I can also relate to, you know, the Sam Darnolds.

1028
00:46:46,376 --> 00:46:48,736
Speaker 2: You know that I was cut by my first NFL

1029
00:46:48,816 --> 00:46:51,776
Speaker 2: team and had to journey around and fight my way back,

1030
00:46:51,816 --> 00:46:56,296
Speaker 2: and and I can appreciate that for for two different reasons.

1031
00:46:56,376 --> 00:46:59,736
Speaker 2: You know that there's one reason where you know, you

1032
00:46:59,856 --> 00:47:02,736
Speaker 2: do wonder about circumstance, right, you wonder about where the

1033
00:47:02,776 --> 00:47:05,056
Speaker 2: Jets were and they drafted him and did they give

1034
00:47:05,136 --> 00:47:08,136
Speaker 2: him a real chance to compete? And so it's nice

1035
00:47:08,136 --> 00:47:11,016
Speaker 2: to see him having success in a situation now if

1036
00:47:11,016 --> 00:47:13,456
Speaker 2: that was the case, And then I can also associate

1037
00:47:13,456 --> 00:47:16,656
Speaker 2: it with the other side of saying, maybe Sam wasn't

1038
00:47:16,696 --> 00:47:20,016
Speaker 2: ready at the time, just like I'm not sure I

1039
00:47:20,176 --> 00:47:23,776
Speaker 2: was ready at the time that I got my first opportunity,

1040
00:47:24,656 --> 00:47:29,096
Speaker 2: and so there's something too being able to step away

1041
00:47:29,096 --> 00:47:31,656
Speaker 2: from a situation and go, Okay, how do I need

1042
00:47:31,696 --> 00:47:33,656
Speaker 2: to get better? You know, instead of just saying, oh,

1043
00:47:33,656 --> 00:47:35,736
Speaker 2: this was all the jets, So this was all the

1044
00:47:35,776 --> 00:47:39,736
Speaker 2: packers cutting me and nobody recognizing my talent may have

1045
00:47:39,776 --> 00:47:41,816
Speaker 2: been the case to some degree, but I think there

1046
00:47:41,896 --> 00:47:43,496
Speaker 2: was also part of it where I had to go okay,

1047
00:47:44,096 --> 00:47:47,656
Speaker 2: but if nobody's seeing it, what am I missing?

1048
00:47:47,936 --> 00:47:48,016
Speaker 6: Like?

1049
00:47:48,456 --> 00:47:51,536
Speaker 2: What's the problem here? And where can I get better?

1050
00:47:51,896 --> 00:47:55,056
Speaker 2: So when I do get my next opportunity, I'm ready

1051
00:47:55,096 --> 00:47:57,656
Speaker 2: for it, and so I can appreciate all the different

1052
00:47:57,736 --> 00:48:00,056
Speaker 2: levels of that, you know. I sat down with Geno

1053
00:48:00,096 --> 00:48:02,776
Speaker 2: Smith this year and I was asking him that same thing,

1054
00:48:03,216 --> 00:48:06,376
Speaker 2: you know, like where were you and why did this happen?

1055
00:48:06,376 --> 00:48:08,776
Speaker 2: And how can you be so good now? And he goes,

1056
00:48:09,176 --> 00:48:12,096
Speaker 2: because I needed to learn, you know, and he used

1057
00:48:12,096 --> 00:48:14,216
Speaker 2: a phrase, and I always love this phrase. He said,

1058
00:48:14,416 --> 00:48:16,976
Speaker 2: I didn't know what I didn't know, And that is

1059
00:48:17,016 --> 00:48:19,056
Speaker 2: so true with so many guys. As you get into

1060
00:48:19,056 --> 00:48:22,176
Speaker 2: the NFL and everybody expects you to know everything, and

1061
00:48:22,456 --> 00:48:24,656
Speaker 2: you think, oh, I know everything. I was really good

1062
00:48:24,696 --> 00:48:26,776
Speaker 2: in college. So I got it all. I know, I

1063
00:48:26,776 --> 00:48:29,376
Speaker 2: know it all. And then you realize, oh god, I

1064
00:48:29,416 --> 00:48:31,416
Speaker 2: didn't know that. Oh and I didn't know that, and

1065
00:48:31,456 --> 00:48:33,536
Speaker 2: I needed somebody to show me that. And so, like

1066
00:48:33,656 --> 00:48:37,576
Speaker 2: you mentioned Bryce Young, what a great example that you know,

1067
00:48:37,816 --> 00:48:40,456
Speaker 2: he's starting for you know, a year and two games,

1068
00:48:40,816 --> 00:48:42,696
Speaker 2: and then he gets benched because he's not playing very

1069
00:48:42,696 --> 00:48:45,456
Speaker 2: good football. I mean flat out not playing well in

1070
00:48:46,256 --> 00:48:48,816
Speaker 2: at all, you know, holding the ball too long and

1071
00:48:49,136 --> 00:48:50,776
Speaker 2: you know, not being able to see it in all

1072
00:48:50,816 --> 00:48:53,976
Speaker 2: this stuff. So then he sits behind Andy Dalton for

1073
00:48:54,016 --> 00:48:57,176
Speaker 2: a few weeks, the ultimate pro in Andy Dalton. And

1074
00:48:57,216 --> 00:48:58,776
Speaker 2: now he comes back at the end of the year

1075
00:48:59,336 --> 00:49:03,016
Speaker 2: and he is literally a different player. Like I watch

1076
00:49:03,056 --> 00:49:05,296
Speaker 2: him and I'm like, could five or six weeks on

1077
00:49:05,496 --> 00:49:09,176
Speaker 2: the bench really, you know, change all of that. Like

1078
00:49:09,296 --> 00:49:11,176
Speaker 2: he's getting it out on time, he's making throws that

1079
00:49:11,216 --> 00:49:13,496
Speaker 2: he made and you're just you're kind of odd by

1080
00:49:14,296 --> 00:49:15,816
Speaker 2: how bad it was at the beginning of the year

1081
00:49:15,856 --> 00:49:18,896
Speaker 2: and how good it is now. But you know, I

1082
00:49:18,936 --> 00:49:20,576
Speaker 2: sat down again with him because we covered one of

1083
00:49:20,656 --> 00:49:22,616
Speaker 2: his games, and he said that was a big part

1084
00:49:22,656 --> 00:49:25,216
Speaker 2: of what he did was step back. And now there's

1085
00:49:25,256 --> 00:49:28,296
Speaker 2: no expectations, and he just watched kind of how Andy

1086
00:49:28,296 --> 00:49:30,856
Speaker 2: did it and how Andy played and how the offense

1087
00:49:30,936 --> 00:49:33,416
Speaker 2: was supposed to run. And now he's come in a

1088
00:49:33,456 --> 00:49:37,936
Speaker 2: completely different player because of that. And so I just

1089
00:49:38,056 --> 00:49:40,536
Speaker 2: I appreciate that side of it too, Like it's okay

1090
00:49:40,576 --> 00:49:43,896
Speaker 2: to say I wasn't good enough. I didn't have all

1091
00:49:43,936 --> 00:49:46,496
Speaker 2: the tools. I didn't know what I needed to know

1092
00:49:46,536 --> 00:49:49,536
Speaker 2: the first time around. And I appreciate guys that, if

1093
00:49:49,816 --> 00:49:52,256
Speaker 2: taken on that run said, but now I got it.

1094
00:49:52,536 --> 00:49:54,696
Speaker 2: Now I've learned it. You know, I've accepted that I

1095
00:49:55,016 --> 00:49:57,816
Speaker 2: was around this coach and that player and they helped me,

1096
00:49:57,856 --> 00:50:01,216
Speaker 2: and now I see what I didn't know. Now I

1097
00:50:01,336 --> 00:50:03,456
Speaker 2: know it. Now I've got a chance to put my

1098
00:50:03,496 --> 00:50:06,616
Speaker 2: best foot forward like a Sam Donold is right now.

1099
00:50:06,656 --> 00:50:08,456
Speaker 2: And so I do appreciate that side of it too,

1100
00:50:08,496 --> 00:50:09,815
Speaker 2: because because I was there.

1101
00:50:10,176 --> 00:50:12,536
Speaker 5: Final two questions in mine is how you look at me?

1102
00:50:12,616 --> 00:50:14,376
Speaker 5: I'm like a six point five on the look scale.

1103
00:50:14,416 --> 00:50:17,656
Speaker 5: I know I'm no beauty. No, I don'tkay, no, I'm

1104
00:50:17,696 --> 00:50:19,936
Speaker 5: better than average, but I don't I'm definitely no beauty.

1105
00:50:20,256 --> 00:50:22,776
Speaker 5: Or I look at Kurt like a nine, right, and

1106
00:50:22,816 --> 00:50:25,936
Speaker 5: I would be so frustrated, to be good looking and

1107
00:50:25,976 --> 00:50:28,216
Speaker 5: have to wear a helmet when the other sports your

1108
00:50:28,256 --> 00:50:30,896
Speaker 5: face is out there. If you're good looking, it's more

1109
00:50:31,976 --> 00:50:33,456
Speaker 5: did you ever have the need to like rip the

1110
00:50:33,496 --> 00:50:35,816
Speaker 5: helmet off, like after a touchdown so people could see

1111
00:50:35,816 --> 00:50:36,416
Speaker 5: that face?

1112
00:50:36,456 --> 00:50:38,176
Speaker 1: So you get those shaving deals.

1113
00:50:38,896 --> 00:50:42,016
Speaker 4: Kurt had more personal like the penalty, the fifty nerd

1114
00:50:42,016 --> 00:50:44,936
Speaker 4: penalty for taking his helmet off on the I check.

1115
00:50:44,776 --> 00:50:46,256
Speaker 6: This, I got this.

1116
00:50:46,496 --> 00:50:48,496
Speaker 5: Just wonder what good looking people feel like when they

1117
00:50:48,536 --> 00:50:49,656
Speaker 5: have to cover their face up.

1118
00:50:50,056 --> 00:50:53,416
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really know that. I make a question

1119
00:50:53,816 --> 00:50:56,896
Speaker 2: for people that don't play football because that was never

1120
00:50:56,976 --> 00:51:00,256
Speaker 2: anything that I actually consider at any point in time

1121
00:51:00,376 --> 00:51:04,176
Speaker 2: in life. But to your point, though, I mean, you

1122
00:51:04,216 --> 00:51:06,136
Speaker 2: see it now all the time with you know, guys

1123
00:51:06,136 --> 00:51:08,536
Speaker 2: that are on commercials, Like I think that was one

1124
00:51:08,536 --> 00:51:11,096
Speaker 2: of the things that the NFL. There wasn't as many

1125
00:51:11,096 --> 00:51:14,296
Speaker 2: guys doing commercials, you know, back in the day, And

1126
00:51:14,336 --> 00:51:15,776
Speaker 2: I think that was a big part of it was

1127
00:51:15,816 --> 00:51:19,856
Speaker 2: because people didn't recognize us like they recognized you know,

1128
00:51:20,256 --> 00:51:23,296
Speaker 2: guys that were on a basketball court because they didn't

1129
00:51:23,296 --> 00:51:25,216
Speaker 2: have the helmet on, and so there was only a

1130
00:51:25,256 --> 00:51:28,576
Speaker 2: select few guys that got those commercials. That's kind of

1131
00:51:28,616 --> 00:51:30,616
Speaker 2: The cool thing now is we see all kinds of

1132
00:51:30,656 --> 00:51:33,696
Speaker 2: different guys getting commercials now, so uh, you know, it's

1133
00:51:33,736 --> 00:51:36,656
Speaker 2: more about personality than it's about anything else. But I

1134
00:51:36,696 --> 00:51:39,856
Speaker 2: gotta say, never once crossed my mind. I need to

1135
00:51:39,896 --> 00:51:43,376
Speaker 2: rip my helmet off so people can see.

1136
00:51:43,736 --> 00:51:45,496
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would have been the first space that have

1137
00:51:45,536 --> 00:51:49,656
Speaker 5: been sure. Here we are Lions Kansas City. When we

1138
00:51:49,696 --> 00:51:51,696
Speaker 5: talk about breaks, there's there's the break, and then there's

1139
00:51:51,696 --> 00:51:54,696
Speaker 5: the super break where a lot of those guys you know,

1140
00:51:54,776 --> 00:51:58,016
Speaker 5: Jones and Mahomes and they didn't even play week eight.

1141
00:51:58,656 --> 00:52:00,616
Speaker 5: That's when it starts to feel to me like there

1142
00:52:00,616 --> 00:52:02,656
Speaker 5: may be too long of a break. Now again, I

1143
00:52:02,736 --> 00:52:05,896
Speaker 5: mentioned earlier, I tell jokes. I don't know personnel.

1144
00:52:06,136 --> 00:52:07,656
Speaker 1: That's just that's just.

1145
00:52:07,656 --> 00:52:10,456
Speaker 5: The coaching, knowing the personnel right and knowing who can

1146
00:52:10,496 --> 00:52:12,616
Speaker 5: take off two weeks and still bounce back three weeks later.

1147
00:52:12,976 --> 00:52:14,576
Speaker 2: I think so, But I mean, look at I mean,

1148
00:52:14,616 --> 00:52:16,536
Speaker 2: you tell jokes. You say that, so like if you

1149
00:52:16,616 --> 00:52:18,536
Speaker 2: take time off from doing.

1150
00:52:19,576 --> 00:52:21,616
Speaker 6: I'm the worst. Yeah, you know the last one is

1151
00:52:21,656 --> 00:52:22,136
Speaker 6: pretty good.

1152
00:52:22,336 --> 00:52:24,696
Speaker 5: Yeah, if I'm off, if I don't tell jokes for

1153
00:52:24,696 --> 00:52:27,416
Speaker 5: two weeks and I go, if I'm torying you back

1154
00:52:27,416 --> 00:52:29,376
Speaker 5: on stage, I'm rusty as awful.

1155
00:52:30,496 --> 00:52:33,056
Speaker 2: Yeah, that timing element, right, that that just kind of

1156
00:52:33,096 --> 00:52:36,336
Speaker 2: feel for you know, and so I always felt like

1157
00:52:36,376 --> 00:52:37,816
Speaker 2: that when I was playing. Now the thing you have

1158
00:52:37,936 --> 00:52:41,136
Speaker 2: to do you have to remember, though, is even though

1159
00:52:41,176 --> 00:52:43,736
Speaker 2: it's like twenty three days off or whatever it is,

1160
00:52:43,736 --> 00:52:47,416
Speaker 2: for Patrick Mahomes, like he's still practicing every day. He's

1161
00:52:47,456 --> 00:52:49,776
Speaker 2: not playing in the game for those three hours, but

1162
00:52:50,296 --> 00:52:52,976
Speaker 2: he's still going through every practice just like he always

1163
00:52:52,976 --> 00:52:55,936
Speaker 2: goes through the practice. So it's not like taking twenty

1164
00:52:55,936 --> 00:52:58,376
Speaker 2: three days off from playing football and then we're throwing

1165
00:52:58,416 --> 00:53:00,336
Speaker 2: him out there for a playoff game and we're expecting

1166
00:53:00,376 --> 00:53:02,536
Speaker 2: him to play. Well, that's the first part of it.

1167
00:53:03,456 --> 00:53:06,016
Speaker 2: But I also when I look at Kansas City, they're

1168
00:53:06,056 --> 00:53:10,576
Speaker 2: not like a real timing oriented team. They're just kind

1169
00:53:10,656 --> 00:53:12,456
Speaker 2: of like it's kind of all over and it's kind

1170
00:53:12,456 --> 00:53:14,776
Speaker 2: of based on a field more than it is timing.

1171
00:53:15,096 --> 00:53:17,855
Speaker 2: For me, twenty three days would have been a long time.

1172
00:53:18,376 --> 00:53:21,056
Speaker 2: Like I was based off of hit the back foot,

1173
00:53:21,336 --> 00:53:24,656
Speaker 2: let the ball go, trust your receivers, see you know

1174
00:53:24,696 --> 00:53:26,936
Speaker 2: the body language of the defense to know what what's

1175
00:53:26,976 --> 00:53:29,056
Speaker 2: going to be open and where you get. So timing

1176
00:53:29,216 --> 00:53:32,096
Speaker 2: was like Vito for the way that I played the game,

1177
00:53:32,136 --> 00:53:34,336
Speaker 2: I couldn't make up for it with all these other skills,

1178
00:53:34,336 --> 00:53:36,976
Speaker 2: So that would have been a long time. Like I

1179
00:53:36,976 --> 00:53:39,256
Speaker 2: would have probably been asking Andy Reid, Hey, can I

1180
00:53:39,656 --> 00:53:41,296
Speaker 2: can I at least play a half? You know? Can

1181
00:53:41,336 --> 00:53:43,896
Speaker 2: I go into this game and just just get my feel,

1182
00:53:44,056 --> 00:53:45,816
Speaker 2: you know, kind of like a preseason game. Let me

1183
00:53:45,856 --> 00:53:47,976
Speaker 2: get my feel, let me get my comfort, like, Okay,

1184
00:53:48,136 --> 00:53:50,856
Speaker 2: I'm I'm here, I'm good mentally, I feel good, then

1185
00:53:50,896 --> 00:53:53,256
Speaker 2: you can take me out. But but I do think

1186
00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:56,296
Speaker 2: that's a long time to be off. But I think

1187
00:53:56,296 --> 00:53:59,056
Speaker 2: if there's one team based on the way that they play,

1188
00:53:59,536 --> 00:54:01,016
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't even say one team, like I could

1189
00:54:01,056 --> 00:54:03,416
Speaker 2: see the Ravens doing that too, like Lamar Jackson, because

1190
00:54:03,456 --> 00:54:06,176
Speaker 2: it's not you know, it's not like m boom boom boom,

1191
00:54:06,336 --> 00:54:09,296
Speaker 2: you know, from an efficiency standpoint, it's more like feeling

1192
00:54:09,336 --> 00:54:11,496
Speaker 2: the game. Because I don't think Patrick Mahome is going

1193
00:54:11,536 --> 00:54:13,096
Speaker 2: to forget how to feel the game, and I don't

1194
00:54:13,096 --> 00:54:14,936
Speaker 2: think Lamar Jackson is going to forget how to feel

1195
00:54:14,976 --> 00:54:17,456
Speaker 2: the game. They're going to go play the way they play.

1196
00:54:17,896 --> 00:54:20,776
Speaker 2: But for guys that are more like me, you know,

1197
00:54:20,816 --> 00:54:23,296
Speaker 2: and there's probably someone the Chiefs that are more kind

1198
00:54:23,296 --> 00:54:25,896
Speaker 2: of rep guys that need to be out there. I

1199
00:54:25,936 --> 00:54:27,936
Speaker 2: could see that being, you know, a little bit of

1200
00:54:28,016 --> 00:54:29,936
Speaker 2: an issue in their first game back.

1201
00:54:30,136 --> 00:54:31,976
Speaker 5: You guys can watch cart every Sunday in NFL Game

1202
00:54:32,056 --> 00:54:36,056
Speaker 5: Day morning at nine am Eastern on NFL Network. I'm

1203
00:54:36,096 --> 00:54:38,576
Speaker 5: a massive fan. I know you and Matt know each

1204
00:54:38,616 --> 00:54:42,096
Speaker 5: other massive fan. We're both massive fans for different reasons.

1205
00:54:42,376 --> 00:54:44,136
Speaker 5: I was always, you know, wanted to watch it. I

1206
00:54:44,216 --> 00:54:45,496
Speaker 5: was like, take your home and off, man, you're so good,

1207
00:54:45,536 --> 00:54:48,136
Speaker 5: look and show us your face. So thank you real,

1208
00:54:48,256 --> 00:54:50,216
Speaker 5: thanks a lot for the past half hour. We really

1209
00:54:50,216 --> 00:54:52,576
Speaker 5: appreciate it. We'll be watching you coming up this weekend.

1210
00:54:52,616 --> 00:54:56,056
Speaker 2: Kurt. I appreciate good luck with this, and I appreciate

1211
00:54:56,096 --> 00:54:56,776
Speaker 2: you guys having me on.

1212
00:54:56,936 --> 00:54:57,296
Speaker 6: We need it.

1213
00:54:57,296 --> 00:55:14,256
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you brother, Thank you, Kurt. I watched

1214
00:55:14,936 --> 00:55:17,656
Speaker 5: WWE on Netflix, and I am a wrestling kid.

1215
00:55:17,656 --> 00:55:18,296
Speaker 1: I don't really not.

1216
00:55:18,536 --> 00:55:20,216
Speaker 5: I don't want to say I'm not a wrestling guy now,

1217
00:55:21,496 --> 00:55:23,256
Speaker 5: but I don't keep up with it now like I

1218
00:55:23,336 --> 00:55:23,896
Speaker 5: used to as a kid.

1219
00:55:24,136 --> 00:55:25,336
Speaker 6: I was dimard. I'm am arketsall.

1220
00:55:25,336 --> 00:55:30,736
Speaker 5: We're hillbillies like it's I had Jeff Jarrett earlier today,

1221
00:55:30,776 --> 00:55:32,776
Speaker 5: who is in the w W Hall of Fame and

1222
00:55:32,896 --> 00:55:35,096
Speaker 5: is still like part of wrestling in his fifties. And

1223
00:55:35,176 --> 00:55:36,856
Speaker 5: was just talking to him about back in the nineties

1224
00:55:36,856 --> 00:55:40,736
Speaker 5: and two thousands, and did were you a wrestling kid?

1225
00:55:41,296 --> 00:55:42,896
Speaker 6: You know what I was in the heyday.

1226
00:55:43,176 --> 00:55:46,976
Speaker 4: So it's the whole Colgan, the Junkyard Dog.

1227
00:55:46,336 --> 00:55:49,016
Speaker 6: I mean, give me, give me four.

1228
00:55:49,496 --> 00:55:51,776
Speaker 4: All right, I've got a whole Colgan for sure, because

1229
00:55:51,816 --> 00:55:55,176
Speaker 4: he's whole Colgan. Rick Flair, I used to love the

1230
00:55:55,216 --> 00:56:00,536
Speaker 4: junkyard Dog. I used to love Sergeant Slaughter, I mean Slaughter.

1231
00:56:00,256 --> 00:56:02,616
Speaker 5: When he turned bad, when he turned like Middle East

1232
00:56:02,696 --> 00:56:05,016
Speaker 5: art Slaughter. Yeah, that was that was weird. Yeah that's

1233
00:56:05,496 --> 00:56:06,296
Speaker 5: Andrey the Giant.

1234
00:56:06,376 --> 00:56:08,216
Speaker 6: But now you're doing more than four. You know, you

1235
00:56:08,256 --> 00:56:08,736
Speaker 6: said five.

1236
00:56:08,816 --> 00:56:10,576
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore's four, You do him four plus.

1237
00:56:10,616 --> 00:56:13,336
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm doing five because Mount Rushmore is going

1238
00:56:13,416 --> 00:56:14,736
Speaker 4: to add somebody up there someday.

1239
00:56:15,736 --> 00:56:17,936
Speaker 1: I'm not even the president, the WWE man.

1240
00:56:18,016 --> 00:56:20,456
Speaker 6: I mean We've got to add somebody. Give me, so

1241
00:56:20,496 --> 00:56:22,656
Speaker 6: say you're five again, out loud, Hulk, Hulk.

1242
00:56:23,376 --> 00:56:28,016
Speaker 4: I had Andre the Giant, Rick Flair, I did. I

1243
00:56:28,136 --> 00:56:30,576
Speaker 4: named a lot more than I needed to. Sergeant Slaughter.

1244
00:56:31,616 --> 00:56:33,816
Speaker 4: Let's just go with those four well, who are you?

1245
00:56:34,296 --> 00:56:35,216
Speaker 4: Who is your gid?

1246
00:56:35,456 --> 00:56:36,815
Speaker 6: Did you ever go tho? Did you ever go to match?

1247
00:56:37,216 --> 00:56:39,616
Speaker 4: So my first match I ever went to, which was

1248
00:56:39,696 --> 00:56:41,656
Speaker 4: random because I don't think I went to another match

1249
00:56:41,696 --> 00:56:45,576
Speaker 4: my entire childhood, was in Cincinnati, Ohio. We were going

1250
00:56:45,616 --> 00:56:48,856
Speaker 4: with my cousins and guess who comes out but the

1251
00:56:48,936 --> 00:56:49,656
Speaker 4: Hulk himself.

1252
00:56:49,696 --> 00:56:51,816
Speaker 6: Did you know he's going to be there? No, no idea.

1253
00:56:51,816 --> 00:56:53,696
Speaker 4: I didn't even know who Hulk Wasn't that I mean

1254
00:56:53,816 --> 00:56:56,216
Speaker 4: I was a young kid and all I sort I.

1255
00:56:56,056 --> 00:57:01,736
Speaker 6: Am American for sure. Yeah, it was. It was epic.

1256
00:57:02,016 --> 00:57:03,336
Speaker 6: Do you remember anybody else there?

1257
00:57:03,816 --> 00:57:07,296
Speaker 4: No, not one other person, not one other person, but

1258
00:57:07,336 --> 00:57:09,376
Speaker 4: I remember the Hulk and that was song and it

1259
00:57:09,576 --> 00:57:10,616
Speaker 4: just was epic.

1260
00:57:11,296 --> 00:57:11,496
Speaker 6: You know.

1261
00:57:11,736 --> 00:57:14,576
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing because forever, you know, as a kid,

1262
00:57:14,816 --> 00:57:16,696
Speaker 4: you're sitting there watching these guys beat the hell out

1263
00:57:16,696 --> 00:57:17,536
Speaker 4: of each other and you're like.

1264
00:57:17,816 --> 00:57:19,896
Speaker 6: How do they do that? Like how do these dudes

1265
00:57:20,296 --> 00:57:21,056
Speaker 6: go in there and fight?

1266
00:57:21,096 --> 00:57:22,896
Speaker 4: And then as you get a little bit older, it

1267
00:57:22,976 --> 00:57:25,656
Speaker 4: loses a little bit of luster for you just because

1268
00:57:25,696 --> 00:57:27,896
Speaker 4: you're like, they still beat each other up and it's

1269
00:57:27,936 --> 00:57:29,696
Speaker 4: amazing what they do week in and week out. But

1270
00:57:29,776 --> 00:57:32,136
Speaker 4: at the same time, they're really not beating each other up.

1271
00:57:32,736 --> 00:57:34,736
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it loses the luster up they're not

1272
00:57:34,776 --> 00:57:35,296
Speaker 1: really fighting.

1273
00:57:35,336 --> 00:57:38,616
Speaker 5: But as you get older, older, it gains the Oh

1274
00:57:38,656 --> 00:57:44,176
Speaker 5: my god, the athletes that these girls, freaks, freaks create

1275
00:57:44,256 --> 00:57:50,896
Speaker 5: the like flips, the landing there's the landing on like

1276
00:57:50,936 --> 00:57:53,296
Speaker 5: you're back inside, even that little padding on the floor,

1277
00:57:53,496 --> 00:57:55,216
Speaker 5: the ends they're jumping off. They're two hundred and fifty

1278
00:57:55,216 --> 00:57:57,216
Speaker 5: pounds undred seven. The athleticism is wild.

1279
00:57:57,496 --> 00:57:58,136
Speaker 6: It is wild.

1280
00:57:58,216 --> 00:57:59,856
Speaker 4: And then would you get up on the top ropes

1281
00:57:59,896 --> 00:58:01,536
Speaker 4: like you see and you see these guys do backflips

1282
00:58:01,536 --> 00:58:03,776
Speaker 4: and land on somebody or get thrown out of a

1283
00:58:03,856 --> 00:58:07,616
Speaker 4: ring and land perfectly in the middle of full table

1284
00:58:07,656 --> 00:58:10,016
Speaker 4: and break the table just for entertainment value. I mean,

1285
00:58:10,256 --> 00:58:13,296
Speaker 4: it's phenomenal how athletic these guys are, and especially at

1286
00:58:13,296 --> 00:58:14,016
Speaker 4: their size.

1287
00:58:14,096 --> 00:58:15,696
Speaker 5: I was talking to Jeff, Jared, the guy was talking

1288
00:58:15,736 --> 00:58:16,976
Speaker 5: to today.

1289
00:58:17,176 --> 00:58:18,176
Speaker 6: I was like, Hey, if.

1290
00:58:17,896 --> 00:58:19,616
Speaker 5: Somebody gets hurt in a match, like if your right

1291
00:58:19,616 --> 00:58:23,056
Speaker 5: shoulder gets hurt, and they communicate under their breath or

1292
00:58:23,416 --> 00:58:25,576
Speaker 5: some speaking carny, they're all these languages they can speak

1293
00:58:25,576 --> 00:58:28,136
Speaker 5: in the ring, so people don't know that they're talking, Like,

1294
00:58:28,256 --> 00:58:31,256
Speaker 5: will you then protect their right shoulder if they're a

1295
00:58:31,256 --> 00:58:33,016
Speaker 5: the right shoulder, so you're only working on their left side.

1296
00:58:33,016 --> 00:58:34,896
Speaker 5: He goes, Dude, that's almost every match somebody gets hurt

1297
00:58:34,936 --> 00:58:37,776
Speaker 5: doing something and you're like, right ankle, so the guy knows,

1298
00:58:38,256 --> 00:58:39,416
Speaker 5: just kick him in the left ankle.

1299
00:58:39,696 --> 00:58:40,736
Speaker 6: Just but it's a dance.

1300
00:58:41,096 --> 00:58:44,736
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild because the core it can't all be coordinated, right.

1301
00:58:44,896 --> 00:58:46,936
Speaker 4: They have to constantly call it. That's what we're talking

1302
00:58:46,976 --> 00:58:49,336
Speaker 4: about calling it in the ring. Yeah, and the cadence

1303
00:58:49,376 --> 00:58:51,176
Speaker 4: of that and to make it look real and then

1304
00:58:51,336 --> 00:58:52,456
Speaker 4: entertaining at the same time.

1305
00:58:52,496 --> 00:58:53,896
Speaker 6: It's pretty amazing what they do.

1306
00:58:53,976 --> 00:58:56,176
Speaker 4: And then also when they get up in front of

1307
00:58:56,176 --> 00:58:58,016
Speaker 4: the audience and they go on their rants.

1308
00:58:58,136 --> 00:59:01,656
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think it's goodst spectacular, I would go

1309
00:59:01,736 --> 00:59:06,136
Speaker 5: Stinging is my favorite all time, especially blonde hearts. Aside

1310
00:59:06,136 --> 00:59:09,096
Speaker 5: from wrestling, there are four people that I've tried to

1311
00:59:11,016 --> 00:59:12,976
Speaker 5: have sit down and do an interview with me in

1312
00:59:13,016 --> 00:59:14,776
Speaker 5: person that I have not been able to get and

1313
00:59:15,056 --> 00:59:16,856
Speaker 5: only four as the White Whales.

1314
00:59:17,136 --> 00:59:19,816
Speaker 6: David Letterman is my hero. Yes, I remember you saying that.

1315
00:59:20,416 --> 00:59:23,376
Speaker 5: Mark Grace is my favorite ballplayer ever, baseball player Chicago

1316
00:59:23,376 --> 00:59:27,696
Speaker 5: Cubs first baseman never met him, tried Sting is one.

1317
00:59:27,576 --> 00:59:30,576
Speaker 1: Of them, and I've never met Sting.

1318
00:59:31,016 --> 00:59:33,976
Speaker 5: In my first book that I wrote, he signed it

1319
00:59:34,016 --> 00:59:35,616
Speaker 5: and sent it back, but I never sent it to

1320
00:59:35,656 --> 00:59:36,616
Speaker 5: him to begin with, which was.

1321
00:59:36,616 --> 00:59:37,936
Speaker 1: Weird because I wrote whole thing about him.

1322
00:59:37,936 --> 00:59:39,176
Speaker 5: I wrote a whole thing about him in the book,

1323
00:59:39,296 --> 00:59:41,296
Speaker 5: and I get a mailed back to me and he

1324
00:59:41,376 --> 00:59:43,656
Speaker 5: signed the page that I wrote about him, didn't write

1325
00:59:43,656 --> 00:59:45,296
Speaker 5: a message or anything. He just mailed the book back,

1326
00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:47,696
Speaker 5: and I was like, that's really cool, but that's really

1327
00:59:47,696 --> 00:59:51,336
Speaker 5: weird because I never said it and maybe write a

1328
00:59:51,376 --> 00:59:52,656
Speaker 5: note because I love Sting.

1329
00:59:52,816 --> 00:59:55,256
Speaker 6: No, no, bro, you just get a signature over, like

1330
00:59:55,256 --> 00:59:58,056
Speaker 6: his name is the wildest thing. Oh a, Bobby, thanks

1331
00:59:58,096 --> 01:00:02,456
Speaker 6: for writing about me. Nothing Sting, love Sting.

1332
01:00:02,856 --> 01:00:04,336
Speaker 1: We got to go hang out with Stone Cold Steve

1333
01:00:04,336 --> 01:00:05,216
Speaker 1: Boston at his ranch.

1334
01:00:05,936 --> 01:00:09,536
Speaker 3: There's awesome love that dude, dude whatever we called them

1335
01:00:09,536 --> 01:00:13,536
Speaker 3: from the truck because we flew in and I'm never

1336
01:00:13,616 --> 01:00:16,456
Speaker 3: laid anywhere right, like not that talented, So I got

1337
01:00:16,456 --> 01:00:18,056
Speaker 3: to be disciplined on when I'm gonna get somewhere, where

1338
01:00:18,096 --> 01:00:19,656
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get somewhere, I say it, I'm gonna be

1339
01:00:19,656 --> 01:00:20,096
Speaker 3: about it.

1340
01:00:20,376 --> 01:00:23,376
Speaker 5: So we're like mister Cold, we're gonna be at your

1341
01:00:23,456 --> 01:00:26,496
Speaker 5: ranch at two pm. And he doesn't live near airport.

1342
01:00:26,536 --> 01:00:28,296
Speaker 5: So we flew private into a small place and then

1343
01:00:28,296 --> 01:00:30,136
Speaker 5: we're gonna drive like thirty minutes over to his ranch.

1344
01:00:30,256 --> 01:00:32,576
Speaker 5: There were so many clouds over the airport we couldn't land.

1345
01:00:33,176 --> 01:00:37,336
Speaker 5: I'm humiliated because I'm like, we're right, we're not gonna

1346
01:00:37,376 --> 01:00:37,616
Speaker 5: make it.

1347
01:00:38,056 --> 01:00:38,376
Speaker 6: We can't.

1348
01:00:38,576 --> 01:00:41,896
Speaker 5: We gotta fly to a different airport another half hour away.

1349
01:00:42,456 --> 01:00:46,136
Speaker 5: And so we call him. He's like, yeah, uh, that's

1350
01:00:46,176 --> 01:00:47,976
Speaker 5: all right. I'm just at the ranch anyway, just let

1351
01:00:48,056 --> 01:00:51,176
Speaker 5: me So I'm nervous. I'm nervous about even showing up late.

1352
01:00:51,576 --> 01:00:53,536
Speaker 5: And I'm like, I just want to tell you, Steve,

1353
01:00:53,696 --> 01:00:56,816
Speaker 5: I'm so I should not have been late. And he's

1354
01:00:56,896 --> 01:01:02,216
Speaker 5: like and he curses nonstock and he's like, dude, ranch anyway,

1355
01:01:02,376 --> 01:01:03,176
Speaker 5: we sat with them.

1356
01:01:03,576 --> 01:01:06,896
Speaker 1: He could not have been a nicer, warmer, more generous.

1357
01:01:07,336 --> 01:01:08,816
Speaker 6: It was amazing. That's amazing.

1358
01:01:08,896 --> 01:01:11,816
Speaker 4: Yeah, So you love people like that too, And he's

1359
01:01:11,896 --> 01:01:13,816
Speaker 4: he's authentically real too, right.

1360
01:01:13,936 --> 01:01:18,376
Speaker 5: Especially super elite in their field who are constantly celebrated

1361
01:01:18,376 --> 01:01:20,216
Speaker 5: because they don't have to act like that, right, yet

1362
01:01:20,296 --> 01:01:22,616
Speaker 5: they still do. And I find that a lot though,

1363
01:01:22,616 --> 01:01:24,216
Speaker 5: Like the more famous the person, the nicer they are

1364
01:01:24,256 --> 01:01:25,576
Speaker 5: because they have nothing to prove.

1365
01:01:25,576 --> 01:01:27,296
Speaker 4: Right, they're more harmful a lot of us, and they're

1366
01:01:27,376 --> 01:01:29,256
Speaker 4: like they're past all the other minutia.

1367
01:01:29,656 --> 01:01:31,856
Speaker 5: I would go sting. I would go stone cold Steve Auston.

1368
01:01:31,936 --> 01:01:33,256
Speaker 5: That was right when I was like checking out or

1369
01:01:33,256 --> 01:01:34,056
Speaker 5: watching it every week.

1370
01:01:34,096 --> 01:01:37,336
Speaker 1: But he's massive. U. Macho man, Randy Savage.

1371
01:01:36,976 --> 01:01:38,456
Speaker 6: Oh, macho man, I forgot it.

1372
01:01:38,576 --> 01:01:40,536
Speaker 1: Old brother who was the greatest athlete.

1373
01:01:40,576 --> 01:01:45,336
Speaker 5: So he played maybe minor league baseball or college baseball really,

1374
01:01:45,416 --> 01:01:48,736
Speaker 5: but get this, he was let's say, right handed, broke

1375
01:01:48,816 --> 01:01:51,016
Speaker 5: his arm, so he just played with his other hand

1376
01:01:51,416 --> 01:01:54,056
Speaker 5: and had to learn. And so then what didn't pitch anymore,

1377
01:01:54,176 --> 01:01:56,376
Speaker 5: like played first base, but started to play with his

1378
01:01:56,456 --> 01:01:58,416
Speaker 5: other hand. He broke one of his arms and then

1379
01:01:58,496 --> 01:02:00,136
Speaker 5: used his other arm, had to learn. He was that

1380
01:02:00,216 --> 01:02:02,856
Speaker 5: kind of athlete. That's absurd. It's absurd. That's what we're

1381
01:02:03,056 --> 01:02:06,136
Speaker 5: These guys are like crazy. So macho Man is there

1382
01:02:06,256 --> 01:02:09,936
Speaker 5: and probably like a Rick Flair just because of what

1383
01:02:10,016 --> 01:02:10,896
Speaker 5: he meant to the sport.

1384
01:02:11,096 --> 01:02:12,496
Speaker 6: I mean, Rick's pretty special.

1385
01:02:12,576 --> 01:02:14,496
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was watched the Netflix thing. It's cool that

1386
01:02:14,976 --> 01:02:17,376
Speaker 5: wrestling has gotten so big. It has it's back into

1387
01:02:17,416 --> 01:02:19,456
Speaker 5: pop like pop culture, even like the sports, like they

1388
01:02:19,496 --> 01:02:21,256
Speaker 5: hold up the championship belts for like an interception and

1389
01:02:21,296 --> 01:02:22,096
Speaker 5: stuff like it's back in.

1390
01:02:22,176 --> 01:02:24,656
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm telling you it took the kids down

1391
01:02:24,736 --> 01:02:28,016
Speaker 4: to the Summer Slam here in Nashville at Nissan Stadium.

1392
01:02:28,576 --> 01:02:31,656
Speaker 4: It was incredible, like just the production and everything that

1393
01:02:31,696 --> 01:02:34,936
Speaker 4: goes in. We sat two rows behind and it was

1394
01:02:35,096 --> 01:02:38,696
Speaker 4: Roman Reigns and brock Lessener in the main event, and

1395
01:02:38,776 --> 01:02:42,416
Speaker 4: I mean it was awesome and people love it. I

1396
01:02:42,456 --> 01:02:44,816
Speaker 4: mean that stadium was packed to the gills.

1397
01:02:45,056 --> 01:02:46,496
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a football stadium.

1398
01:02:46,176 --> 01:02:48,536
Speaker 4: Too, it is, but then they also put the seats

1399
01:02:48,536 --> 01:02:50,936
Speaker 4: on the field, so you're talking about further capacity in

1400
01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:52,336
Speaker 4: what you get for even a football game.

1401
01:02:52,376 --> 01:02:54,656
Speaker 6: I mean, it was packed and it was awesome.

1402
01:02:54,976 --> 01:02:56,376
Speaker 1: This has been my very first ever episode.

1403
01:02:56,376 --> 01:02:56,616
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1404
01:02:56,616 --> 01:02:58,696
Speaker 5: When I'm sure the microphones have been on, we could

1405
01:02:58,736 --> 01:03:00,576
Speaker 5: have just been talking to ourselves. So if anybody is

1406
01:03:00,616 --> 01:03:02,776
Speaker 5: actually hearing this, thank you for listening.

1407
01:03:02,856 --> 01:03:03,896
Speaker 6: Hey, Kevin run us.

1408
01:03:03,936 --> 01:03:06,776
Speaker 5: Each game, let's let's we'll pick each winner in each

1409
01:03:06,816 --> 01:03:08,656
Speaker 5: of the playoff games and we'll call it a day.

1410
01:03:09,376 --> 01:03:11,936
Speaker 5: We do have Tim McGraw coming up in the next

1411
01:03:12,136 --> 01:03:16,656
Speaker 5: episode or two. Jared Allen coming over, so we hope

1412
01:03:17,016 --> 01:03:18,536
Speaker 5: that they resigned us for another episode.

1413
01:03:18,536 --> 01:03:22,456
Speaker 6: Weren't kidding. We're in a one week contract. Game one.

1414
01:03:22,536 --> 01:03:23,736
Speaker 6: Just go a FC side first.

1415
01:03:23,576 --> 01:03:25,936
Speaker 7: Kevin, you got Chargers Texans, Chargers Texans.

1416
01:03:26,576 --> 01:03:28,736
Speaker 6: I'm going with the Chargers. Want the Chargers. Yeah, I like.

1417
01:03:28,856 --> 01:03:32,776
Speaker 4: I like the Chargers, justin Herbert and just what they bring,

1418
01:03:32,816 --> 01:03:34,256
Speaker 4: the physicality in which they play with.

1419
01:03:34,336 --> 01:03:35,496
Speaker 6: I just I like the Chargers a.

1420
01:03:35,496 --> 01:03:37,776
Speaker 5: Lot down arrow on the Texans right now as far

1421
01:03:37,816 --> 01:03:41,656
Speaker 5: as like trending up or down. I didn't really get

1422
01:03:41,696 --> 01:03:45,656
Speaker 5: season two from Stroud. Unfair to expect better than his

1423
01:03:45,776 --> 01:03:48,416
Speaker 5: rookie year, but you just expect growth one to two,

1424
01:03:48,856 --> 01:03:51,256
Speaker 5: as they say, the most growth happens between one and two, right.

1425
01:03:51,296 --> 01:03:53,616
Speaker 4: But I think Houston surprised a lot of people last

1426
01:03:53,656 --> 01:03:57,016
Speaker 4: year with the rookie quarterbacks and all they have a

1427
01:03:57,056 --> 01:03:58,976
Speaker 4: young team and the way that they came in and

1428
01:03:59,056 --> 01:04:01,536
Speaker 4: just kind of took over that division last year. But

1429
01:04:01,576 --> 01:04:04,816
Speaker 4: then this year, people the expectation level rises and they're

1430
01:04:04,856 --> 01:04:07,336
Speaker 4: expecting this team to be really good, and then all

1431
01:04:07,336 --> 01:04:08,896
Speaker 4: of a sudden people kind of are like, Okay, we

1432
01:04:08,936 --> 01:04:09,496
Speaker 4: got to get.

1433
01:04:09,376 --> 01:04:10,016
Speaker 6: Up for this game.

1434
01:04:10,096 --> 01:04:13,576
Speaker 1: Bad division, bad division, really bad division.

1435
01:04:13,736 --> 01:04:16,016
Speaker 5: I'm agreeing with you, though, I'm just be guess Texans

1436
01:04:16,056 --> 01:04:18,216
Speaker 5: down more than Chargers up.

1437
01:04:18,216 --> 01:04:19,656
Speaker 1: But Chargers are going to be really good in the

1438
01:04:19,696 --> 01:04:20,336
Speaker 1: next couple of years.

1439
01:04:21,256 --> 01:04:24,416
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Harbaugh. Look, he's a stud man. He

1440
01:04:24,456 --> 01:04:25,336
Speaker 6: wins everywhere he goes.

1441
01:04:25,376 --> 01:04:27,496
Speaker 5: He's gonna be getting like a Tyreek who's not the

1442
01:04:27,536 --> 01:04:29,416
Speaker 5: Tyreek of five years ago. But Tyrek's like, I'm leaving

1443
01:04:29,456 --> 01:04:32,296
Speaker 5: the Dolphins and he's gonna have a wider, a big

1444
01:04:32,376 --> 01:04:35,536
Speaker 5: number one, not just mconkey, and it's They're gonna be awesome.

1445
01:04:35,536 --> 01:04:38,376
Speaker 6: He only wins, all right. Next game, Steelers.

1446
01:04:37,936 --> 01:04:42,096
Speaker 5: Ravens, Yeah, Ravens, and but you know, the Steelers are

1447
01:04:42,136 --> 01:04:43,696
Speaker 5: going to play them closer than they should because they

1448
01:04:43,736 --> 01:04:45,296
Speaker 5: always play them closer than they should.

1449
01:04:45,576 --> 01:04:47,656
Speaker 4: They will and this is the third time they've met,

1450
01:04:47,816 --> 01:04:50,376
Speaker 4: and it was recent that they played, so they're so

1451
01:04:50,496 --> 01:04:53,096
Speaker 4: familiar with each other. But I just think the Ravens

1452
01:04:53,176 --> 01:04:56,696
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, the way he's playing, and Derrick Henry and just.

1453
01:04:56,696 --> 01:04:57,776
Speaker 6: All the weapons that they have.

1454
01:04:58,096 --> 01:05:00,256
Speaker 1: What about the pressure on them more because he's got it.

1455
01:05:00,896 --> 01:05:03,696
Speaker 6: He's got it, man. Is that a real thing to him? Now?

1456
01:05:03,976 --> 01:05:09,176
Speaker 5: Like everyone and says, I do not perform when it

1457
01:05:09,216 --> 01:05:10,696
Speaker 5: comes to the playoffs, well, I.

1458
01:05:10,696 --> 01:05:12,376
Speaker 4: Think they've earned the right to say it's Super Bowl

1459
01:05:12,496 --> 01:05:15,016
Speaker 4: or bust. I mean, because there have been such a

1460
01:05:15,016 --> 01:05:17,096
Speaker 4: dominant team for so long during the regular season and

1461
01:05:17,136 --> 01:05:20,176
Speaker 4: they get to this stage and to take that next

1462
01:05:20,216 --> 01:05:23,656
Speaker 4: step as a player and to become the lead of

1463
01:05:23,696 --> 01:05:26,056
Speaker 4: the elite, which he already is the elite elite.

1464
01:05:25,736 --> 01:05:28,136
Speaker 6: In the regular season. Now he's got to go win

1465
01:05:28,176 --> 01:05:29,456
Speaker 6: a super Bowl next game.

1466
01:05:29,576 --> 01:05:32,776
Speaker 7: Yeah, Broncos Bills, Broncos Bills.

1467
01:05:32,936 --> 01:05:36,576
Speaker 5: This is just a which quarterback is far and above

1468
01:05:37,776 --> 01:05:39,776
Speaker 5: the best quarterback? And I mean that this is a

1469
01:05:39,816 --> 01:05:41,736
Speaker 5: quarterback game right right And really, to.

1470
01:05:41,656 --> 01:05:42,336
Speaker 6: Me, it's the Bills.

1471
01:05:42,336 --> 01:05:44,576
Speaker 4: And plus they're at home, and you know that there's

1472
01:05:44,576 --> 01:05:46,936
Speaker 4: going to be conditions, and I know that Buffalo is

1473
01:05:47,616 --> 01:05:51,936
Speaker 4: Buffalo's I mean, yeah, Denver's cold for sure. But at

1474
01:05:51,936 --> 01:05:54,416
Speaker 4: the same time, it's just a different environment up there

1475
01:05:54,456 --> 01:05:56,576
Speaker 4: with the Bills mafia and everything else going on. And

1476
01:05:56,616 --> 01:05:58,896
Speaker 4: when you have Josh Allen back there pulling the trigger,

1477
01:05:59,016 --> 01:06:01,856
Speaker 4: I mean, it's going to be a difficult game for

1478
01:06:01,856 --> 01:06:04,816
Speaker 4: the Broncos to go into that stadium and beat that team.

1479
01:06:04,896 --> 01:06:06,536
Speaker 6: Right now? Yeah, did o Marx, That's all I need

1480
01:06:06,536 --> 01:06:08,016
Speaker 6: to say. Did A Marx in that one. I agree.

1481
01:06:08,016 --> 01:06:10,456
Speaker 7: Next NFC time Packers at the Eagles.

1482
01:06:10,616 --> 01:06:12,376
Speaker 1: That's a fun one. I'm going to go with the Eagles.

1483
01:06:14,456 --> 01:06:16,936
Speaker 5: Hey, so is he out a concussion protocol yet? Do

1484
01:06:16,976 --> 01:06:19,696
Speaker 5: we know like Jalen Hurts.

1485
01:06:19,496 --> 01:06:22,336
Speaker 4: He's still he still was in concussion protocol? What I

1486
01:06:22,376 --> 01:06:25,416
Speaker 4: and what I read now that could have changed today.

1487
01:06:25,616 --> 01:06:27,376
Speaker 1: Yes, And we're recording this late Tuesday.

1488
01:06:27,376 --> 01:06:29,616
Speaker 5: This is going to go up early Wednesday, so he

1489
01:06:29,656 --> 01:06:31,456
Speaker 5: could be out right now.

1490
01:06:31,496 --> 01:06:34,696
Speaker 4: That would change the dynamics of this game dramatically, all

1491
01:06:35,216 --> 01:06:36,096
Speaker 4: because green Bay.

1492
01:06:36,176 --> 01:06:38,976
Speaker 6: Green Bay's got a stout defense. There's what's up, Kevin.

1493
01:06:39,016 --> 01:06:40,696
Speaker 7: He's still in as of two hours ago, he's still in.

1494
01:06:41,176 --> 01:06:42,736
Speaker 5: More we're expecting him to be out. So let's just

1495
01:06:42,736 --> 01:06:47,096
Speaker 5: say everything. Help is still going to go Eagles green Bay, though,

1496
01:06:48,376 --> 01:06:49,736
Speaker 5: like you said.

1497
01:06:49,336 --> 01:06:51,696
Speaker 6: If Jalen hurts us out, I'm going to go green Bay.

1498
01:06:51,736 --> 01:06:53,496
Speaker 1: Okay, But if he's out, I say, there's no way

1499
01:06:53,496 --> 01:06:53,896
Speaker 1: he misses.

1500
01:06:54,056 --> 01:06:55,616
Speaker 6: There's no way. There's no way. So we're both going

1501
01:06:55,656 --> 01:06:59,096
Speaker 6: to go Eagles. What do you think about Sirianni? So,

1502
01:06:59,216 --> 01:07:01,216
Speaker 6: Nick Sirianni, I called them pipes.

1503
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Speaker 4: He was with me his first year in the league

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01:07:03,536 --> 01:07:06,336
Speaker 4: in Kansas City and you as a player of coach.

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01:07:06,536 --> 01:07:09,096
Speaker 4: He was a coach, first year coach there, and he was,

1506
01:07:09,216 --> 01:07:11,816
Speaker 4: you know, like the bottom of the barrel, but awesome.

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01:07:11,896 --> 01:07:15,176
Speaker 4: Dude walked around with these tight shirts, always flex in

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01:07:15,296 --> 01:07:16,456
Speaker 4: on people and all this stuff.

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01:07:16,496 --> 01:07:17,896
Speaker 6: But he's made his track up.

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01:07:18,176 --> 01:07:18,496
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:07:18,816 --> 01:07:19,976
Speaker 6: I'll tell him this to his face.

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01:07:20,016 --> 01:07:22,576
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, what are you doing bantering with fans

1513
01:07:22,576 --> 01:07:24,216
Speaker 4: on the sideline and doing all that stuff.

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01:07:24,216 --> 01:07:26,656
Speaker 6: I'm just like, come on, Pipes, what are you doing? Pipes?

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01:07:27,136 --> 01:07:29,896
Speaker 4: I mean, but at the end of the day, you

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01:07:29,896 --> 01:07:31,936
Speaker 4: you can't take away his track record. I mean, the

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01:07:32,016 --> 01:07:35,536
Speaker 4: dude wins ball games and that team is as good

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01:07:35,576 --> 01:07:37,656
Speaker 4: as they are. And then the NFL and they've been

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01:07:37,736 --> 01:07:40,136
Speaker 4: for quite some time. So if they're at full health

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01:07:40,216 --> 01:07:42,976
Speaker 4: and we've got hurts playing, I'm going.

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01:07:43,216 --> 01:07:43,616
Speaker 6: Yeah, me too.

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01:07:43,696 --> 01:07:47,456
Speaker 4: Next Commanders, Bucks, This is the you know what, this

1523
01:07:47,536 --> 01:07:49,056
Speaker 4: is the game that you sit there and you go

1524
01:07:49,976 --> 01:07:51,136
Speaker 4: you could go either way.

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01:07:52,616 --> 01:07:56,616
Speaker 6: I'm going to go Bucks. Again. If it's either way,

1526
01:07:56,616 --> 01:07:57,736
Speaker 6: I'm usually going to go quarterback.

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01:07:57,736 --> 01:07:59,536
Speaker 5: And if quarterbacks tight, I'm gonna go to quarterback and

1528
01:07:59,616 --> 01:08:02,736
Speaker 5: coach yep, and I'm going to go Bucks. Baker do

1529
01:08:02,816 --> 01:08:06,136
Speaker 5: for four thousand yards. Baker's also not a rookie mm hmm.

1530
01:08:06,416 --> 01:08:08,296
Speaker 5: And from my time playing in the league, you never

1531
01:08:08,296 --> 01:08:09,896
Speaker 5: know what rookie is gonna do when the lives come on.

1532
01:08:09,936 --> 01:08:12,416
Speaker 4: Right And when you look at Washington, their defense is

1533
01:08:12,416 --> 01:08:14,816
Speaker 4: struggled a little bit down the stretch, and.

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01:08:15,416 --> 01:08:18,456
Speaker 6: They've got a rookie quarterback, but he's amazing. I think

1535
01:08:18,456 --> 01:08:19,856
Speaker 6: they'll be able to put up some points.

1536
01:08:20,296 --> 01:08:22,936
Speaker 4: But I just believe Baker Mayfield the way that he's playing,

1537
01:08:23,296 --> 01:08:27,496
Speaker 4: and especially these last three games, I mean, I believe

1538
01:08:27,496 --> 01:08:29,055
Speaker 4: the Bucks are gonna win at home.

1539
01:08:29,856 --> 01:08:30,296
Speaker 6: Last one.

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01:08:30,336 --> 01:08:31,656
Speaker 7: Here Vikings at the Rams.

1541
01:08:31,736 --> 01:08:34,416
Speaker 5: See, this is the one. To me is this is

1542
01:08:34,416 --> 01:08:37,496
Speaker 5: the Mystery Prize. I'm gonna go and this is that game.

1543
01:08:37,536 --> 01:08:40,096
Speaker 5: And I know Chaos is your boy. He is I

1544
01:08:40,136 --> 01:08:42,776
Speaker 5: know KSI boy. So I'm gonna go first, and I'm

1545
01:08:42,776 --> 01:08:46,336
Speaker 5: gonna go Rams, because again, if i'm gonna go, it's close.

1546
01:08:46,336 --> 01:08:49,175
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go quarterbacks first, and I'm gonna go Stafford

1547
01:08:49,176 --> 01:08:53,456
Speaker 5: and Darnold. I'm taking Stafford. And if I'm gonna go coaches, listen,

1548
01:08:53,576 --> 01:08:54,576
Speaker 5: Kaos's from.

1549
01:08:54,376 --> 01:08:59,456
Speaker 6: The McVeigh tree. He is exactly. So I'm gonna go

1550
01:08:59,456 --> 01:08:59,936
Speaker 6: with the Rams.

1551
01:08:59,976 --> 01:09:03,016
Speaker 4: They're familiar with each other. I mean, and they're coming

1552
01:09:03,016 --> 01:09:06,176
Speaker 4: off a devastating loss. At the same time, when you

1553
01:09:06,256 --> 01:09:08,416
Speaker 4: look at the Vikings what they achieved this year. They

1554
01:09:08,416 --> 01:09:10,376
Speaker 4: played earlier in the season, it was a heck of

1555
01:09:10,376 --> 01:09:12,856
Speaker 4: the game and Stafford, he was like seventy five percent

1556
01:09:12,856 --> 01:09:15,376
Speaker 4: in that game and played out of his mind.

1557
01:09:15,616 --> 01:09:17,416
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with my boy, Yeah you should.

1558
01:09:17,456 --> 01:09:18,896
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with my boy. I'm gonna go with

1559
01:09:18,936 --> 01:09:22,016
Speaker 4: the Vikings. And you know the fact that they're what

1560
01:09:22,136 --> 01:09:24,856
Speaker 4: were they fourteen and three this season and they're playing

1561
01:09:24,856 --> 01:09:25,816
Speaker 4: an away game right.

1562
01:09:25,656 --> 01:09:28,496
Speaker 6: Now, crazy that itself is crazy. It's kind of nuts.

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01:09:28,856 --> 01:09:30,536
Speaker 5: All right, Thank you guys for listening. We will see

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01:09:30,536 --> 01:09:32,576
Speaker 5: you guys again real soon. And then we have a

1565
01:09:32,616 --> 01:09:34,496
Speaker 5: theme song on the backside too, so hit that theme song.

1566
01:09:34,536 --> 01:09:36,776
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1567
01:09:36,816 --> 01:09:39,976
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1568
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Speaker 6: I don't even know where these buttons are, but push

1569
01:09:41,576 --> 01:09:42,536
Speaker 6: one of them, all right, Bye, guys.

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