1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison, and new he scrugs. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: Hey, I am mad. Is that time Monday? 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: We got some shots? You gonna put that on? You can, babe. 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: I'm still like what Amen saying that? 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 5: Man sun up, man, congratul I'm sorry, Barry Church, heck Maherson, 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 5: Danny Scrug players, go ahead, but I got him shift. 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: Here, get out, I'm saying. That's all. You know what 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm happy to ask you. 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 6: My young brothers get paid, all right, So everybody paying 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 6: attention to Lamar Jackson and what he's going through. 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: But don't let it. 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 6: Slide that another young brother got paid. 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 4: You want you want him again. 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 5: According to Adam Scheff, the Jamien her has signed a 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 5: five year extension two hundred and fifty five million dollars, 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: including one hundred and seventy nine point three oh four 22 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 5: guarantee guarantee. That's a shout out to his agent, that's 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 5: when you go. 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 6: Shout out to his agent was Astley, Yo. Yeah, when 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 6: you go to Super Bowl you do what you what 26 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 6: he did? 27 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: You know what? 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 6: Coming into the year, people are like, man, he got approved, 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 6: he got approved the mation he could. 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 5: Be our starter one you happy age, you happy age. 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 4: Man. 32 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 6: Listen, you already know how I feel about the path taking. 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 6: And it's not the Eagles any of that. 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: It's he's at Alabama, he loses his job in the 35 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: National Championship, he sits on the bitch for a year, 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: don't complains, none of that, goes over the Open takes 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 5: them to the tournament right go to the Eagles. 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: They're like, man, I don't even know. I'm not even 39 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 6: sure about the guy. Man, we might not get he 40 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 6: go to Super Bowl the year after that when everybody 41 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 6: have all these questions about him and get paid one 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 6: hundred and seventy nine million dollars guaranteed. I'm just saying, 43 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 6: as an undrafted free agent guy, when you think about 44 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 6: like the path that these people have to say. 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 5: He's not undrafted, but he was one of those guys 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 5: that you're like, I'm not sure the path to get there. 47 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 5: That's hard to do, man, thank you for doing that, 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: Philly boy. It's gonna make a lot of things harder 49 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: for you and sign another guy. 50 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 7: So yeah, we like that, like that, we like that 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 7: Howie Roseman. Give Howie credit as a general manager. They 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 7: had given Carson Wentz a bag. He was averaging thirty 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 7: two million a year, so they gave him the bag. 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 7: He was supposed to be this guy. They figured out 55 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 7: he wasn't the guy. They ate the money. Okay, they 56 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 7: had a big old cap hit. I think it was 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 7: the largest cap hit hit ever. So they ate it, 58 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 7: traded him off to the Colts, said Hurts, you're the guy, 59 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 7: gave him weapons and a new coach. 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 4: Dude. 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 7: They went out and did it, and so went to 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 7: a Super Bowl. So props to Jalen Hurts. 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 4: And I like you. 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 7: Am happy for the young man from Houston, Texas who 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 7: got bench during the National Championship game, didn't pout, wins 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 7: the game with Tua. They nothing but boys. The next 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 7: year he's a backup, goes and saves the game. They 68 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 7: win the SEC championship. Then he transfers to oklub with 69 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 7: Oklahoma wins a big twelve times. And I'm happy for 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 7: the person and to see that young man be tested 71 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 7: through perseverance. He kept his faith in the Lord and 72 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 7: man he's been rewarded. So for me, man, I'm happy 73 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 7: as heck, especially when I see how guys I like 74 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 7: Marlon Briscow didn't get this kind of opportunity. Shaq Harris 75 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 7: didn't get this opportunity. You know, Quincy Carter. I am 76 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 7: a a I'm a fan of Quincy the person, but 77 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 7: Quincy didn't take advantage of his opportunity. Jalen Hurts did. Man, 78 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 7: Props to him, man, And if you're Dak Prescott, you 79 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 7: know what you're doing, you calling him saying thank you, 80 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 7: thank you man, because it just you know, it was 81 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 7: just rise and time. I mean, there's not gonna be 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 7: agents out here signing less ages, gonna be out here 83 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 7: signing more. 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: So Lamar should be happy. 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 7: To Lamar Jackson, you should be happy because you're saying, hey, 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 7: every time one of these guys, this is Beverly Hills guys, 87 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 7: they ain't got no sales. 88 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: In the front lawns and hill off no. So good 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: for Jalen Hurts Man, Good for him. 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: And you love to see the development like you were 91 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 5: talking about with Hurts I mean, you know, first year 92 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 5: is a full starter. He gets this team to the 93 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 5: playoffs wild card. They got this man ohed by a 94 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 5: Great Bucks team at that at that stage. 95 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: But in the very next. 96 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: Year he takes them to the super Bowl, and the 97 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 5: organization around him did him all the just do I mean, hell, you. 98 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 4: Look what they did. 99 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 5: They brought in all those weapons just for him. You 100 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 5: know what, We're making you the guy, and we're gonna 101 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 5: do what you do best out there. Let you, you know, 102 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 5: improvise out there and get these weapons around you so 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 5: you can make the most of your opportunities out there, 104 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: not like what they do in Baltimore with Lamar. I mean, 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 5: I couldn't even name. You know, only reason I know 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 5: the one receiver bating is because you know he has 107 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 5: a social media where he was going back and forth. 108 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 5: But other than that, I don't even know the receivers 109 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 5: he had to throw to out there. Hollywood Brown, he 110 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 5: got up out of there. 111 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 6: You gotta touchdown though, because I want for that one. 112 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 6: And they got the other boy. They got your other boy. 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 5: Now, so they got a boy, your other boy they 114 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 5: got there. 115 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 6: That's how That's how I know Lamar Jason coming back 116 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 6: That's how I know he'll be back. 117 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: He's gonna be playing, he's. 118 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: Gonna be all right. 119 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 6: Look, it's hard for me not to hate y'all know it. 120 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna say congratulations to the brother. You 121 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 6: throw the lord in and I ain't got nothing negative 122 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 6: to say about. 123 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: The man clause to no agent, no trade, no trade clause. 124 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: They did. 125 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 4: They did a good job. 126 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 5: And and obviously when you see a quarterback reset the 127 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: mar not reset the market, because obviously they are big 128 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 5: still bigger contracts out there. But I'm just I'm just 129 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 5: anticipating what is Joe Burrow's cod what are. 130 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: Some of these other contracts going to look like? 131 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 6: And when you look at More, when you look at 132 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 6: when you look at when you look at Baltimore, and 133 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 6: the way that they're dragging their feet with this Lamar 134 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 6: Jackson deal, that that to me says, look, get off 135 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 6: the pot, man, I don't take care of this whole deal. 136 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 6: And so you guys, can you know further your your 137 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 6: your organization along. But you're right if you're dak if 138 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 6: you're coming back to the table to negotiate your deal. 139 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: You love to see. 140 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 7: This, dude, Burrow Herbert da everyvice should be calling Jaylen 141 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 7: a man, thank you, appreciate you, thank you man. Next 142 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 7: time we see you at wherever whever we bind a drinking. 143 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 6: You know, he's to tell them go to the super Bowl, 144 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 6: going to the super Bowl, all right, cause that's what 145 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: they're gonna They gonna come back and say, hey man, 146 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 6: look that man got paid playoffs first starting year, super 147 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 6: Bowl next year, were expecting them to go to the 148 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 6: super Bowl, And yeah, that's that's that's what that's what the. 149 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: Eagles gonna say. 150 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 5: Hey man, Well all the other other people say, all right, 151 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: hey bro, you take the super Bowl. We give you 152 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 5: that type of bread. Yeah, I'm actually I'm actually just 153 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: staying talking. I'm standing on the market that we got 154 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 5: that guy over there now so we don't see y'all 155 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: know who I'm talking about. Act like now, y'all forget 156 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: who I'm talking about now, you know you know. 157 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 8: What I'm talking about on the back be walking, were 158 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 8: being in this conversation five week because I'm give him 159 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 8: some time. We gonna see alrightyr I can't wait for it, 160 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 8: can we make. 161 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: I'm not. 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 6: Paid for my last last because you saying, you know, 163 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 6: one thing we know about new Alright, he's gonna get 164 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 6: it for free. A right, I know we're gonna get 165 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 6: it for free. I know you all right with that? 166 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 6: That's cool. 167 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: I want to see the heartache and pain. 168 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 6: With somebody losing bait, you know what I'm saying, Like 169 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 6: when Church losses back, he went up there, I had 170 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 6: a receipt and all that and say how much you 171 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 6: pay your rece zero dollars and zero get a receipt. 172 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: Hold on this man sitting over here too long? Then 173 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 5: with me, man, I appreciate that. Brother, all ready to 174 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: make that, Let's let me know. 175 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: I'm ready. 176 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: I'm ready to come from the stipulations, you know what's 177 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: going to write the contract up and make sure everybody signed. 178 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 5: We're not. We will go upstairs get it notized, witness, 179 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: and they got people here to do that, so he'll 180 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 5: notarize that thing. 181 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: So that's all good. 182 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 7: But Lamar Jackson deals he wants it well, they're saying, 183 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 7: because this is what the teams do. They're saying, he 184 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 7: wants it all guaranteed, and that not having an agent 185 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 7: has held him up. I would, and you guys play, 186 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 7: I don't know. I just have covered this thing long 187 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 7: enough that I would have hired someone even if I 188 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 7: just hired somebody for one damn year, I would have 189 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 7: hired somebody because you're not where you want to be 190 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 7: and you can potentially get back out there again and 191 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 7: get hurt. 192 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: I mean, Kirk. 193 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 7: Cousins consider being these three year guaranteed deals. How's Lamar 194 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 7: not gotten something? Find somebody to help you out, man, 195 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 7: because there's no reason why talent like that with an 196 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 7: MVP trophy sitting right here now, and I think I. 197 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 4: Think you gotta hire somebody. I'm with you on that. 198 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 5: I think you got to because look, as a player 199 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: in the NFL in the offseason, it's not like you 200 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: got time to be out there calling all these different 201 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: teams and vouching for yourself. This is what I can 202 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 5: bring to your team, and maybe if you if you 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 5: get the Ravens a first and the third, you know 204 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: maybe that we can work something out. 205 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 4: You ain't got time for that. You're over there trying to. 206 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: Make sure your body's in tip top shape, You're making 207 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 5: sure you know your family's good, all that stuff, and 208 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: that's why you hire an agent to be that kind 209 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 5: of middle ground to go out there and do everything 210 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 5: for you. And understand he got he got his moms 211 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 5: and all that good stuff, But is she certified to 212 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 5: be out there talking to teams? So I mean you 213 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 5: got you gotta hire somebody like new he said, maybe 214 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: just for a year, just to get this deal done 215 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 5: and then you can go about your separate ways. But 216 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 5: I think you got to bring somebody into the table. Yeah, 217 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 5: I mean you can't even I mean just reading contracts 218 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 5: or understand it. You're understanding that yours. When you read it, 219 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: it may seem offensive, but then you don't have anything 220 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: to compare it to that, right, So you look and 221 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 5: say a man, Nah, No, you have say ay, man, 222 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 5: just so you know this person, this person, that person, 223 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: this person also have that in their contract as well, 224 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 5: so it's not like they just doing this only to. 225 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: You, right motions. 226 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, you need to be able to have somebody who 227 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 6: can who can look through it and really like paint 228 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 6: the picture for what they're really trying to do for you, 229 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 6: versus like now I don't like that, get it out 230 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 6: of my face. I mean, but you two guys have 231 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 6: signed contracts for a bag, so you've had advisors and 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 6: people tell you where you fit in at your position 233 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 6: being undrafted, getting playing time where you should be played, 234 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 6: and the NFL has certain accelerators that show you, like, listen, 235 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 6: this is hey, you were drafted undrafted here, but because 236 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 6: of the playing time that you're getting, this is the 237 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 6: amount of money that you should be getting. 238 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 4: When you talk about Lamar. 239 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: As a top tier athlete or a top tier quarterback, 240 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: some of this should be really easy. 241 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: One seventy nine. 242 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: Guaranteed, two fifty five. 243 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 5: Only person that got guaranteed was Deshaun Watson and Kirk Cousins. 244 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: So let's just talk about this. 245 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 6: It should it should be easy to get an advisor 246 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: to fit this in very easily for him. When they're 247 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 6: talking about taking away years, I think Lamar was talking 248 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 6: about three years, one fifty five. 249 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: Sixty something like that. 250 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 6: A'll fully guaranteed because of the way that they are 251 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 6: negotiating the obviously they're negotiating a rate what they want 252 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 6: to pay him less, not give him the same clauses 253 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 6: and no trade and all of that. Look, man, this 254 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 6: is really cut and dry for me. For Lamar, this 255 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 6: is what I want. I want something identical to what 256 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 6: I just saw right here. If it's a dollar more, 257 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 6: because that's all you want, That's all I want. I 258 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 6: just want to make more than him. You know you 259 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 6: ain't mean more than this guy, So those things to 260 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: me are easy. Him not having an agent isn't the 261 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 6: biggest deal breaker. Too many other guys have negotiated that 262 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 6: deals without agents. 263 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: So let's not act like he's the outlier. 264 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: But let's not act like he's the outlier, especially when 265 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 5: it comes down to resetting the market. This is he 266 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 5: just reset the market, right, So look, I just want 267 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: to deal compared to that, the same amount of money 268 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 5: in there five years. 269 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 4: Don't give me a three year or two year? Did 270 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: get me? Come on? Break me off just like that. 271 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna speak to what you were saying. Here's 272 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: the other portion of it. 273 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 7: In Minnesota, you had owners that wanted cousins and they 274 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 7: were willing to pay that. In Cleveland, the haslms were 275 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 7: that desperate because Deshaun Watson was going to Atlanta. I 276 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 7: remember the tweet that Kyle Pitts put out there. It 277 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 7: was cryptic, but it told you, like, man, we're about 278 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 7: to get him coming home. So the Haslms got desperate 279 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 7: and put it out there. 280 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: Steve a shot. 281 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 7: He said, I'm not paying guaranteed money. Jim Mercey said, 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 7: we're not paying guaranteed money. So from Lamar Jackson, where 283 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 7: you got to get to is understanding that when you 284 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 7: talk about this kind of deal with Jalen Hurts, okay, 285 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 7: one seventy nine guaranteed contrast says two fifty five. Are 286 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 7: you okay with that? But the people you're trying to 287 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 7: deal with your technical owner right now. Then you put 288 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 7: it out there that you're able to be traded for, 289 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 7: and only only the Colts have seem interested. Nobody's willing 290 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 7: right now to go where you want to go. 291 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 4: Now that's up. 292 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 5: I mean, look, guaranteed contracts in the NFL, I don't 293 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 5: think you'll ever see it. And the reason is probably 294 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 5: because of injuries, period, and that's that's probably why. And 295 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 5: for Lamar Jackson and the stigma that's around him is injury. 296 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 5: He's injury prone. 297 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 6: It's a few games over the last two years, absolutely, 298 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 6: And so I mean him protecting himself. 299 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: Unlet's just generational wealth. 300 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 6: As everybody throw around, He's entitled to be looked at, 301 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 6: just like the top of the top guys that you 302 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 6: see right now negotiating contracts. I don't know why it's 303 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 6: looked at any different from him. 304 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: As Jalen Hurts. 305 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts is still he's Isn't he perceived as a 306 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: running quarterback. 307 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: He's a mobile quarterback. 308 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna put him and Lamar Jackson not the 309 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 5: same when it comes to what makes them special. Lamar 310 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 5: Jackson is a four to four guy who does when 311 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 5: you see him scramble. 312 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: It's a lot different than Jalen Hurts. 313 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 5: It's more of like a Russell Wilson scramble versus what 314 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: you see when you see a Lamar Jackson, more like 315 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 5: Michael Whi's quarter Who who? 316 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: No, no? Who would you take right now? If Lamar 317 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: Jackson or Jalen. 318 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 5: Hurts, Man, that's what I just saw last year Jalen Hurts. 319 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: All right? 320 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 6: The number seid bro The dude just went to Lamar 321 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 6: Jackson went to the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson got an 322 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 6: MV past Lamar Jackson. No, Yes, you asked a rhetorical question. 323 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 6: I saw I'm throwing in there that he has MVP. 324 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 6: Come on now, you said who's better? I'm just saying 325 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 6: one dude, one guy's you like? You sound like church? 326 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: Who's better? Joe Burrow Nah, justin Herbert is because what. 327 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 9: No Joe Burrow. 328 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 6: Joe Burrow went to the super Bowl, Lamar Jackson ain't 329 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: been to the super Bowl as he talking about, and 330 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: we know that's what happens. 331 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: I'm not. 332 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: It's just the same wre you talking about. You know, 333 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: Herbert and Borrow, Hurts and Jackson. It's the same thing 334 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 5: as far as who's surrounding them, the weapons that they have. 335 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 5: When you look at when you come on, you're giving 336 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 5: me that look when you look at him. I ain't 337 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 5: gonna on that to the conversation, even though we know 338 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: he has a better supporting cast. But when you look 339 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: at Baltimore, you know who's he throwing to? Mark Jackson, 340 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 5: Who's I mean, he's a legit, Mark too much basketball? 341 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 5: Too much basketball Brown, Okay, I mean he's a beast 342 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 5: at the tight end. But you can contain a tight end. 343 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 5: When you look at you know what Hurts is throwing to. 344 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: You got a beast at the tight end with Dallas 345 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 5: got you got those two receivers on the outside, I 346 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: mean off, it's a line. 347 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: So I mean it's. 348 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 5: Tough to say who's better because the surrounding cast. Hurts 349 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 5: in my opinion is that is, you know he is 350 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 5: better than. 351 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 7: You need an agent somebody to get out here to 352 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 7: help promote. 353 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: The need to come on that who's. 354 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: The last person to get paid for the eaves of 355 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 6: those people that you nam Hurts is the last one 356 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 6: who's gonna be the first person to get paid And 357 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 6: then you have to figure out how to get them 358 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: pieces around him for for Baltimore. 359 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 4: So they like, we got Hurts, drafted them low. 360 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: We still got some money left though, we got enough 361 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 5: to pay because we already know we got the supporting cast. 362 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: What are you doing in uh in Baltimore? 363 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 10: Now? 364 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 6: You got Odell now because you got you paid them 365 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 6: eighteen So hopefully this kind of brings something on. But 366 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 6: you you got to find a way to say, hey man, 367 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 6: we know what we have and we know what we need. 368 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 6: We need to have whatever it is. 369 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 5: Another piece of the pie and Jared and Jerry Jones, 370 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 5: the pie has to be able to fit in some 371 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: of those weapons, like you saying, to be able to 372 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 5: bring in receivers and guys who can well. 373 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 6: You don't have to just focus on And that's why 374 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 6: a discredit to Lamar, That's why I thought they did 375 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: a discredit. 376 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: To because they had years. 377 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 5: I mean he won the m v P what his 378 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 5: third year, second year, third year, so they had years 379 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: to be able to put around them. 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For more information, 446 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 6: visit Dallas Cowboys dot com slash Draft. 447 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: Thank you, Heck Maharrison. 448 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: Last for me, Heck Maherrison to guarantee everybody man. 449 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 4: Man kickers, you'll get a guarantee account. 450 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 6: Last part, this is what I understand, Okay, he said, 451 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 6: Tell Lamar going there and tell the me the same thing. 452 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 4: Jaylen Hurts got his guarantee. His contract is not fully guaranteed. 453 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 4: So okay, I'm okay with the. 454 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 6: Jayalen Hurts one, but I'm not gonna give him two 455 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 6: fifty five fully guaranteed. If that's not asking for that, 456 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: I don't see that. What's seventy nine cool? 457 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: Would you give him to Deshaun Watson deal? 458 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: No? 459 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 4: I wouldn't give anybody the Deshaun Watson did. Okay. 460 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what Cleveland was thinking. 461 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: No I do. 462 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: What were they thinking? Please enlighten me. 463 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 7: We we already put we already put our chips in 464 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 7: here for Deshaun Watson and made Baker Mayfield man. We 465 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 7: don't have a quarterback right now, because he's going to 466 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 7: go home to Atlanta. The only way we're going to 467 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 7: get him and end all of our quarterback issues is 468 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 7: give this guy this bag. We go upset everybody. The 469 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 7: NFL people gonna be mad at it, but we don't care. 470 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 7: We're the Haslims. Were gonna pay it because we got 471 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 7: the money and we're gonna do it. They overpays. It's 472 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 7: what Cleveland has to do. They not gonna get that 473 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 7: guy home. You want to live Atlanta, you wanna live 474 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 7: in Cleveland. I'd have been to bot Town. Okay, it's 475 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: real easy, tell you right now, black man, don't go there, 476 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 7: especially if you ain't never lived you ain't never lived 477 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 7: in the North bro I'd never been in the town. 478 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: It was segregators at they told me. 479 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 7: I mean, they told me, I was like twenty four 480 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 7: years old, a young black man, you better go to 481 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 7: the east side. I'm like, but the brown's over here 482 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 7: on the west side, and it snow's less on the 483 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 7: on the west side. 484 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: They're like, go over there. 485 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 7: So you know, I found out myself driving over to 486 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 7: the east side get haircut. 487 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 4: Found myself driving. 488 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 7: Over to the east side to the to the uh 489 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 7: to the store to buy the black makeup because look 490 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 7: at me, like, let me dude, was it was? It 491 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 7: was a very segregated type town. And then when I 492 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 7: was on a black Saint nor they asked me, you 493 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 7: played for the Browns. 494 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 4: No so Atlanta Cleveland real simple to me. 495 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 15: Bro a player, right, yeah, kid, no brush your mon 496 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 15: named gym no familiar. 497 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 4: So it's all that snow man. 498 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 7: I ain't never let man buying clothes ain't never heard 499 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 7: of because I came from Texas up to myth by clan. 500 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 7: Never heard of the man learn what the heating bill 501 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 7: was when you left it on all day? So yeah, 502 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 7: you got overpay you want me to come there? Pay 503 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 7: me Andre rising And how Andre Risey got to Cleveland. 504 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 7: Art Odell paid him more than anybody else. So yes, 505 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 7: the Browns, desperate four quarterback, didn't want Baker Mayfield anymore. 506 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 7: So when they found out he was going to Atlanta, 507 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 7: his a Gams, Dave Mucgletta did the smart Hey man, he. 508 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 4: Got to roll here stop stop. 509 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 7: Guaranteed, now you know he So I like Cleveland. 510 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 16: Cleveland Rocks, shout out of Cleveland Rocks on the west 511 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 16: side right there on the west side, on the west side, 512 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 16: so so yeah, you know so so so that's how 513 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 16: they got it because they were desperate. 514 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 7: But you know they're not They couldn't compete with Atlanta 515 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 7: and you know Arthur Blank, Now, man, I ain't guarantee 516 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 7: nobody nothing. 517 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 4: What about you know what about about Jackson? 518 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 7: We oft to Blank, No, we're going We're going desperate Ritter, 519 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 7: he's so mad scored. 520 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: Don't even mention the ord guaranteed the black man shout out. 521 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 7: By the way, do we all know the mascot of 522 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 7: the Mississippi State team hold dog? Okay, you know what 523 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 7: the new mascot's name is, Jack Dak. Over the spring 524 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 7: football weekend, they named the team mascot. They got new bulldog. 525 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 7: They thug that they should You don't like. 526 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: That if we named it, you know the rocket man. 527 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: Church should should be he ain't pay us for this 528 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: is true, Dak. 529 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: I'm sure, I'm very sure. 530 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 6: Giving back to the program shout out that those are 531 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 6: big deals. Those are big this Hall of Fame big 532 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 6: deal naming the mascot. When you think of Mississippi State football, 533 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 6: that's all you think about, is that, that's what you 534 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 6: think about. So I mean, and he's a great representative 535 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 6: for for Mississippi State and whoever he gets behind, So 536 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 6: shout out to him for that man. That's a that's 537 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 6: a big accomplishment and that she wants some mad respect 538 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 6: to what he did while he was in Misisispi State 539 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 6: and probably what he's doing now for Mississi State and the. 540 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 7: Need to keep him in the fold because because he's 541 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 7: a Dallas cowboy, he's on television ding every week. I mean, 542 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 7: if you're trying to sell your program, and what better 543 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 7: person right now that they have then than Dak Prescott. 544 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 7: I know, Jeffrey Simmons just got a nice bag from 545 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 7: the Tennessee Titans and he's a really good football players 546 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 7: in d line and Dak Prescott is out here doing 547 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 7: national commercial. 548 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy is a brand. 549 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 7: Give them credit as a school for sam and how 550 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: can we go out here and capitalize and utilize and 551 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 7: make Doc Prescott feel special? He said his home. You know, 552 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 7: if they could only get you to say that about 553 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 7: your spot rockets and with a with a with some 554 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 7: of that. 555 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: Show me how holme feet. 556 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 2: You ain't. 557 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 4: Right? 558 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 7: You know, It's it's like what they do for your 559 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 7: uncle Joe at North Texas. I mean they're always making 560 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 7: Joe feel special, and you always Joe Joe Green North 561 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 7: Texas mean Green football. I mean that's what you do 562 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 7: when you get a player like that. And now I 563 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 7: thought it was pretty cool that they named the Masks 564 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 7: new bulldog mascot. 565 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: That you know, shout out yes, yes, sir, yes, sir, 566 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: yes sir. 567 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 5: I don't care how good you was going to l 568 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: s you ain't nobody named me the mascot that the Okay, 569 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 5: Mike is Mike. 570 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 2: Mike staying Mike. 571 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 6: Mike Mike one three all the way to forty five, 572 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 6: so Mike. 573 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 7: I mean, it's just a couple of spots. These places 574 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 7: been here for me to see me stay there. I mean, 575 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 7: if they ever won the sec Man, not that I 576 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 7: know of, yeah, lifetime, I came to my lifetime they've 577 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 7: ever won that thing, so you know, but this is 578 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 7: for Dak. 579 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: I mean, this is as close as they've been. Glory 580 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: basically the Glory years. 581 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: He had number for. 582 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: What he got to sleep. 583 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 6: But yeah, that's when Dak was rolling though he was 584 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 6: he was running that thing which we don't see now 585 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 6: hopefully you know. 586 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 4: H yeah, right, yeah, yeah, so we'll see what they do. 587 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 7: They got a new coach out there too, because remember 588 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 7: Mike Leachs passed away in the off seasons, so they 589 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 7: got a new coach in Mississippi State. So the new 590 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 7: coach was the defensive coordinator, so he does know and 591 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 7: appreciates who Dak Prescott is. Speaking of Dak Prescott, the 592 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 7: offensive line, we're coming up on the NFL Draft. It's 593 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 7: going to be next Thursday. I am coming around to 594 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 7: you more and more about this offensive line. I'm not 595 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 7: ready to put a first round pick there. I'd like 596 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 7: to see buddy from somebody from the D line. But man, 597 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 7: there are some issues within this offensive line. The center guard, 598 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 7: guard for now, guard for the future, tackle same thing, 599 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 7: tackle for now, tackle for the future. I don't know 600 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 7: what Lesko is doing. They've got guys working out here 601 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 7: at the Star right now. But you know, Matt Well 602 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 7: Letsko was a guy that they liked in camp, has 603 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 7: shoulder issues. Does he come back? Josh Ball? Does Josh 604 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 7: Ball make it approve this year three? You got to 605 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 7: see something from Josh Bull though. 606 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: You need to move on. 607 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 7: But there's I don't want to shake my head no 608 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 7: because Josh Ball and Jaylen Tober could surprise this the 609 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 7: same way Terrence Steel surprises. 610 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: I don't want to I don't want. 611 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 17: To know, Okay, all right, right now, I want to 612 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 17: hear the Josh Ball. 613 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 5: We all saw it, man, like we we all saw it. 614 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 5: We ain't blind out here, all right, we all see it. 615 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 5: This is what happens, man, when when the off season 616 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 5: comes around, it's like we forget what happened during the 617 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 5: season like this, this happens all the time in compensation. 618 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: But was it not what we saw from Terrence Steel 619 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: that first year from. 620 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 7: Josh Terrence Steel's first year was no weird near as 621 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 7: bad as what we seen from Josh Ball when he 622 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 7: was able to get in the foot on the field. 623 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: Still first year pretty bad, but he had his ups. 624 00:27:54,359 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: He had some Josh boy had no ups highlight real not. 625 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 7: To make it okay and so and so, Now with 626 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 7: that in his bag, with a new offensive line coach, 627 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 7: what if we see an improvement? What if we see 628 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 7: the guy all of a sudden it's out there for 629 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 7: you to see and you know exactly what you got. 630 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: Because remember his first year was red shirt years. 631 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: He did play. 632 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: This is his first time playing and it wasn't good. 633 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't good. 634 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 7: So I'm just saying I'm not ready to just write 635 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 7: the guy. I haven't seen what he's done. I haven't 636 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 7: talked to anybody, so for me to just all of 637 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 7: a sudden just write this guy off right off, Jay Oltober, 638 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 7: I don't. 639 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 6: Know how you gonna see it. You can't see it. 640 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 6: You know why, because you got somebody else sitting there 641 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: right now. This is gonna be playing the position and 642 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 6: you don't know what. 643 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 4: What are you gonna find or actually he might be 644 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: able to find out? Not really sure. You know. 645 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 7: Here's what I would do. This is simply what I 646 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 7: would do is what we did last year. And you 647 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 7: guys have been around coaches enough. If McCarthy starts to 648 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 7: see something in you, he's gonna say something. So McCarthy 649 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 7: will tell you something. A position coach will tell you something, 650 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 7: and the strength coaches around here, they'll tell you whether 651 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 7: it has a guy been here, has he been doing 652 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 7: the work? I mean, that was what they talked about 653 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 7: with Tam Steeles. He transformed his body, he put in 654 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 7: the work. Philbin talked about how you know he liked 655 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 7: to smart and that he that he grew, they all say, 656 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 7: And you guys play here. 657 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: Where do you where's your biggest improvement? 658 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: Year one? 659 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 4: A year two? 660 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 7: Now Ball's first year, said red shirt, So this was 661 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 7: his first year. We Allo clacked on his first year. 662 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: So can we see that for jay Lon Tober? Can 663 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 7: we see it? That's all I'm saying. Draft Day will 664 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 7: tell us a whole lot too. They sit up here, 665 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 7: roll out a whole bunch. 666 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: Of it, and they didn't bring it. 667 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: Then brought a whole bunch of them through here too, 668 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: brought a whole bunch. 669 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 5: So look, I'm not gonna throw any shade at anybody. 670 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 5: I think if you're sitting there at twenty six and 671 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 5: you can get one of these young offensive guards at 672 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: twenty six, then you got to pull the trigger on it. 673 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 5: But if none of those guys are there, and especially 674 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:57,959 Speaker 5: if you can go with you guy to tcu Vila Avola, okay, 675 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: in the second round, I think that's where you and 676 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 5: if look, if none of those guys in that trade out, I'm. 677 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 6: Okay with trading out. I hadn't been in years past, 678 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: but I'm okay with trading out. Yeah, yeah, because if 679 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 6: you can't get what you want and especially if you 680 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 6: have to reach on a guy, I don't want to 681 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 6: do that. I don't want to reach on the guy 682 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 6: at twenty six because you may have reached on some 683 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 6: of these other picks that you're talking to, these guys 684 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 6: that you're talking about, and we don't want to be 685 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 6: in the same boat. And let's remember Tyron Smith. Okay, 686 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 6: at this point, it's still a liability and we haven't 687 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 6: seen him finish a complete season. So if Terrence Steel 688 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 6: with the second year tender, I expect him to be back. 689 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 6: I expect him to be starting as well. Look when 690 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 6: they announced Tyler Smith, I didn't know a lot about 691 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 6: Tyler Smith. 692 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 5: But I'm telling you what, I'm really happy that they've 693 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: got a guy like that. 694 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 6: And if let's just say inn Ocyrus Torrence from Florida, 695 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 6: a guard is there for you. And Will McClay says 696 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 6: that that's our guy that we could get at twenty six, 697 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 6: then I'm okay with that. 698 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: But if you don't have him, or Joy Porter. 699 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 5: Or somebody like that that's gonna come in and be 700 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 5: a that's going to start for you day one, make 701 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 5: Hay in the second, third, fourth round man. 702 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: So Cowboys hitting at twenty six. 703 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: Steven Jones says, they're only twenty first round grades. Talked 704 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 7: to another S guy that I that I trust. He said, 705 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 7: there's eighteen. So when you talk about taking somebody twenty six, heck, 706 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 7: you basically talk about a second round pick. 707 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: Anyway, what you want to do. And this is where 708 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 4: I raised my hand. 709 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 7: I was absolutely crushing the Cowboys when they did this 710 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 7: when they could have had sharif Floyd traded down and 711 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 7: they took Travis Frederick. We're sitting right here like this 712 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 7: got a first round grade on this guy. He was 713 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 7: even shocked to go in the first round. It's the 714 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 7: second round guy. But they identified that we need a center, 715 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 7: we need somebody to we could plug in day one. 716 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 7: It was a good deal for them, and they got 717 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 7: an extra fifth year out of it. So maybe it 718 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 7: is a guard that they like, but they don't have 719 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 7: a first round grade on that guard. 720 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: But if you got to if you think. 721 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 7: This is a player that you could possibly plug and play, 722 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 7: and you take him at twenty six and you get 723 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 7: five years, I'll take that. 724 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 5: So need versus one when we got Travis Frederick, who 725 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 5: was the center that year, Because I think you were 726 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: in a situation where you had to draft a center. 727 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: You had to get someone. 728 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 6: Travis Frederick was a guy that came in and started 729 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 6: dating with a good question. 730 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 5: I don't I don't feel consta stealing or was he 731 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 5: gone by that time? Might have been Phiel Costa because 732 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: the time went to Frederick. Could you he was fourteen? 733 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: Was it fourteen? 734 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 4: Again? That's I'm just saying. 735 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 6: I'm just saying need verse one at twenty six, and 736 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 6: I don't want to reach on the guy. And if 737 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 6: any of those guys that I just mentioned are there, 738 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 6: then I get them. 739 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 4: Twenty thirteen. He was thirteen thirteen, So it must have 740 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: been phil Costa. And so heck, I think. 741 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 7: Where I think if you're taking a guy in the 742 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 7: first round you say need one, I mean, I think 743 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 7: it's all right to me. 744 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 4: It's all kind of relative. 745 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 7: They this is not a team that doesn't need help 746 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 7: at several levels. I mean your offensive line, you could 747 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 7: go defensive line, you could go linebacker. I mean you 748 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 7: go defensive end. I mean, there's they got spots tight end. Personally, 749 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 7: I would I hope they didn't take it tight in 750 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 7: the first round, but I look at it. 751 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 4: I just say, man, there's they have options. 752 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 7: But at twenty six, I thought, if you're telling me 753 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 7: there's only eighteen or twenty first round grades, you're sitting 754 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 7: at twenty six, cloth likely you're not taking a first round. 755 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 5: If there have been a draft where that's been the 756 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 5: amount of grades, like first eighteen first round grades on guys, 757 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 5: then that. 758 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: Means they're not thirty two. They're not. 759 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 5: So I'm just saying, like, are there ever years like 760 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: that where you have thirty two first round grades on guys? 761 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 5: It's just I'm just dictating. I'm just basically trying to 762 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 5: say that may be the testament to how poor this 763 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 5: This draft year was a. 764 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: No, no, this is what you're what you're asking. This 765 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 4: is very common. This is very two years ago. Two 766 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 4: years ago, that was I feel like that was a 767 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: pretty steep draft. 768 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: City Lamb and. 769 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 5: Justin Jefferson and all those guys were in the draft 770 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 5: at the same time. 771 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 7: I think that was pretty and so here in the 772 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 7: kind of interesting thing there you think about it. So 773 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 7: here's Ceedee Lamb and Justin Jefferson. These were the guys 774 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 7: at the back end. Jalen Rager goes before bus, Jerry 775 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 7: Judy goes before Sean Payton trying to get rid of him. 776 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: Then he had Henry Ruggs went to the Raiders. He's 777 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: out the league. So you have five guys go. 778 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 7: Smart teams got dudes back in, so you know they misevaluated. 779 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 7: While you could say Ruggs was a first round pick 780 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 7: and went, Now you have five guys first round grades. 781 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 7: They really weren't. But just overall, that's kind of the 782 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 7: norm here is you're talking about, you know, eighteen to 783 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 7: twenty two, just first round grades on guys. You got 784 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 7: thirty two teams, but you don't have grades that fit that. 785 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 7: So a lot of times when you're talking the back end, 786 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: you're talking about trying to find a player that maybe 787 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 7: fits what you do. Clyde Edwards Hilaire wasn't listed as 788 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 7: a first round pick, but for Kansas City, for what 789 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 7: they wanted and what they needed, they felt like this 790 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 7: guy was what boomed for them. I mean, Lamar Jackson, 791 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 7: here's a guy that was about to be out the 792 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 7: first round. 793 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 4: They Ravens jump back in and get them. 794 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: So it's miss a genius, but yeah, yes he is. 795 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 7: He got to take a break head I'm late when 796 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 7: we come back headon was going to top top. This 797 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 7: Converse stationed off right here? Uh plays that try to 798 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 7: you buy tostitles on dascown. What's dot com radio? 799 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 14: Nobody protects you from mayhem like all State. You hear 800 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 14: that I'm a torrential downpour torrential? 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I am new he Scruggs 855 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 7: players asked about to you by Tosteve Toole's. 856 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 2: Undrafted and you hit gold. 857 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes you hit goal. 858 00:37:59,320 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: Happens. 859 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 5: Draft departments out there like those guys on the beach man. 860 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 5: What's those machines that they're looking for? Metal metal detectives. 861 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 5: Sometimes you just find a five dollar toe ring, but 862 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 5: sometimes you get a bear charge. 863 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 4: Shout, shout. I told this out and I want to 864 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 4: get you guys, just to get your sense on this. 865 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 7: There'll be a lot of guys that are drafted that 866 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 7: are going to be twenty five years old or they're 867 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 7: twenty four. 868 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: About the turn super sit twenty five this year because. 869 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 7: Of the extra COVID year, also the ability to get 870 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 7: guys who've been four year starters, five year starts, guys 871 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 7: who started a lot of football games. How do you 872 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 7: feel about guys that are twenty five years old becoming 873 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 7: rookies for the Dallas Cowboys. 874 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 6: I'm okay with it, to be honest, and I'm only 875 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 6: thinking of it from a standpoint of man. So if 876 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 6: you are twenty five and you have an eight year career, 877 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 6: at least that put you here at thirty three. 878 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 5: When we was back and playing, it was twenty one, 879 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 5: you was out. You have an eight nine year career. 880 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 5: You ain't even thirty at a year. Yeah, you're retired, right. 881 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 5: You get in twenty one, you're still trying to mature 882 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 5: a little bit. You twenty five, you have a little 883 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 5: bit more maturity. 884 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: I'm not. 885 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 5: I don't have an issue with it now. It is 886 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 5: it is a little late you twenty five. Like, man, 887 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 5: I'm still getting Popeyes for guys, you know what kids. Yeah, yeah, 888 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 5: but I mean, you know, understand point of Hey man, 889 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 5: I think it might help these guys, you know, if 890 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 5: they take advantage of the fact that, hey man, I'm 891 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 5: a little bit more mature. I probably know a little 892 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 5: bit more. I've been around a little bit. You started 893 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 5: for five years, you may have a little bit more 894 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 5: experience to be more ready for NFL football. Yeah, I 895 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 5: think you said it all there, Dmac. I mean when 896 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 5: when you talk about an older player coming in as 897 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 5: a rookie, it's it's all about the maturity level and 898 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 5: understanding of football and concepts. Because when I came out, 899 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 5: you know, was twenty twenty one, getting ready to turn 900 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 5: twenty two, and you know, I understood football, what cover 901 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 5: three was and all that good stuff, but I didn't 902 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 5: understand pretty much the nuances like where's my help at? 903 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 5: You know, if I'm playing outside man leverage, I can't 904 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: let them outside because you know, all my help's inside. 905 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 5: I'm thinking coming out of college, I got this manded man, 906 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 5: I don't know. If he goes outside, I'm gonna be 907 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 5: on a trail. Like you, got to think about the 908 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: little nuances of the game. And as you get older 909 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 5: and more mature and understand football a lot more, it's 910 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 5: easier to pick up those schemes. It's easier to get 911 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 5: a leg up on the younger guys out there because 912 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 5: you understand the playbook. 913 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 4: All right, this is cover three. 914 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 5: If we invert this, this is my responsibility here, and 915 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 5: you understand everybody else's responsibility, not just yours. So I 916 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 5: think it's huge from the maturity aspect of it and 917 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 5: understanding the concepts of football. 918 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 12: No. 919 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 5: Twenty five years old, you would think that a guy 920 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 5: would be a lot more mature. 921 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: Twenty five is still dumb. 922 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 6: So you know, the maturity, the maturity aspect of it, 923 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 6: and also, like you said, the knowledge of the game 924 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 6: as well. 925 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 5: You know, that's that's always been the learning curve, the 926 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 5: mental part. When you when you talk to guys, you 927 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 5: hear them talk about man just mentally understanding the game. 928 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 5: But hey, man, even for the guys coming into twenty one, 929 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 5: you come in, you do it right. 930 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 4: You get to play golf every day of the week, 931 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 4: these are so hidden. 932 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 7: Hooker, the quarterback for Tennessee, is twenty five years old, 933 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 7: and I heard some people saying, well, man, he got 934 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 7: to be worried about that quarterback is twenty five late. 935 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 7: And I'm thinking to myself, and this was on serious exit. 936 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 7: These guys play till they're forty now, cireus, if you're 937 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 7: twenty five now, I just does a guy know your offense? 938 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 4: And can can he get it? 939 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 7: And he's from all accounts you just read about Hinton 940 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 7: Hooker being such a great leader. So I'm like, to me, 941 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 7: a twenty five, I'm not worried about that. 942 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 4: That's a great point. 943 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 7: I just think if the guy's good leader and he 944 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 7: can learn the concepts. Because I'm imagining right now, like 945 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 7: Jalen when they Jalen Hurts are drafted by Philadelphia, you're 946 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 7: whoever takes. I'm assuming they're going to have a guy 947 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 7: there already. It's not like I'm asking this guy to 948 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 7: go play right away. But I just look at Hendon 949 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 7: Hooker and I don't know what round he'll go in, 950 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 7: but to me, he has very DAC, a very DAC 951 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 7: like type career. 952 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's revered in Tennessee. 953 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 7: They love the guy, and obviously this is kind of 954 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 7: a good rebirth for the program. Finally beat Alabama after 955 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 7: like a dozen years. Yeah, good play. He was up 956 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 7: in the Heisman Trophy balanting, but he got hurt. Obviously, 957 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 7: we know what they can do here in terms of 958 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 7: re having guys with If they take a Hendon Hooker 959 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 7: and he's here for four years and he's learned under 960 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 7: Dak Prescott and Dak has miss games. I don't care 961 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 7: about the guys age. I just want a guy who 962 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 7: can come in and. 963 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 5: Help thoughtless Uh same here. Yeah, I agree with that. 964 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 5: I don't care about his age. 965 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 6: I expect them to be more mature, like football mature, 966 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 6: and then out off the field of mature as well. 967 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 5: So I'm all for it. I think it's I think 968 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 5: it's a good thing. That's no shot of the guys 969 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 5: who are twenty one, because you have some guys that 970 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 5: mature early. You have some guys that are coming here 971 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 5: and they're responsible. Pat Peterson's, Dak Prescott's Justin Jefferson. All 972 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 5: these guys who come in and they haven't had any issues. 973 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 5: They seem like they picked up the playbook and they 974 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 5: know how to be professionals. But then you also have 975 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 5: some guys who may need a few more years. Because 976 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 5: we've been around guys who get it and be like, 977 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 5: oh man, this dude here all last long six months? 978 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 4: I give six months here now? 979 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, just like that, he couldn't fight it. I got 980 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 5: I do. I got a question for y'all. All right, 981 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 5: tell me tell me this, Okay, better year? Which which year? 982 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 5: Just based off these numbers? Do you think was a 983 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,879 Speaker 5: better year for us? 984 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: All right? Who I'm gonna ask church first? All right? 985 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 5: Twenty three hundred and fifty four rushing yards, thirty seven 986 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 5: hundred and eighty four passing yards. That's a year, right, 987 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 5: versus twenty one hundred passing yards and forty eight I 988 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 5: mean rushing yards and forty eight hundred passing yards? 989 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 2: Which year was better? Which year was better for the cowboy? 990 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm definitely going with the first one, the first one? 991 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 5: All right? 992 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 2: Rush yeah, rush, YEA doubt. What do we need to 993 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: focus on in the draft? The dang old line? 994 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 4: All right? 995 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 5: Help yourself, man. This is when you had Travis Frederick and. 996 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: You had a play call. 997 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 6: No, no, it wasn't one. Steale Callahan. The twenty fourteen, 998 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 6: So I mean, run the ball, go ahead. The game 999 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 6: that passed you by the twenty sixteen was the same, 1000 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 6: was the same. The numbers were around the same with 1001 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,479 Speaker 6: Dak Prescott's and Ezekiel, and the old line was the same. 1002 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 6: And you were a ballanced team and you wasn't Nott 1003 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 6: throwing five thousand yards? 1004 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 5: And what did you do with thirteen and three? We 1005 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 5: won a playoff game. So man, old line. I've been 1006 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 5: banging old line all the time. Man, you are you 1007 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 5: are your best team when you can run the ball 1008 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 5: in your old line. It's not like like it was 1009 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 5: last year. For as far as we went, we made 1010 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 5: the playoffs and lost to us. Friend, if your old 1011 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 5: line was in better position, I think you you would 1012 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 5: have went a little further in the uh in the season. 1013 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 4: All Right, that's the show. Danny McCrae, Heck Maharson, Barry Church. 1014 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:40,720 Speaker 12: I knew. 1015 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 2: If you run very much, but it wasn't me. 1016 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 4: We'll talk to you Monday. 1017 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1018 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.