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Speaker 1: Now it's time for Cannabis Talk one on one with

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Speaker 1: Blue Joe Grande and Market Greig Washerman, the pop brothers

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Speaker 1: in law with special guest Ian Rassman from Los Angeles Normal,

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Speaker 1: the oldest civil activist cannabis organization in the world. Along

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. My name is Blue.

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Speaker 1: Alongside of me is Mr Joe Grande. As always, thank you,

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Speaker 1: It's always good to be here next to you. I'm

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Speaker 1: not afraid and making up excuses that I have to

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Speaker 1: zoom in ye as I book a guest and then

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Speaker 1: I leave and don't show up for my buddy quit.

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Speaker 1: You know, called shaming me, you said, those who aren't

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Speaker 1: afraid to say, who's that talking? One who went to

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Speaker 1: a super spread event? And now you're calling it a

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Speaker 1: super spread event. I can't go to grounds. I can't go,

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Speaker 1: can't be with my family. You were at it looked pretty,

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Speaker 1: you know. I never you know, my dad's been dead

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Speaker 1: a text messager's dad Instagram and I have an old

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Speaker 1: Jewish father by the name of Craig Washerman that goes

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Speaker 1: love you. Where are the mash got me? Even he

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Speaker 1: even had the nervous call me me off fantastic and

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Speaker 1: then he hits me up when we get to the office, Joe,

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Speaker 1: please stay away from me. You're at a what's it

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Speaker 1: called again, super spreader. You're at a super spreader event.

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Speaker 1: So that is why Craig is not here in the

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Speaker 1: office and smoking in his beautiful office. Well, Ian, Ian

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Speaker 1: just joining this right now from cal Normal is probably thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: why do you guys let me join like he's backing

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Speaker 1: wou he's not as he's not as old as me.

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Speaker 1: That is true what any people are. And Mark should

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Speaker 1: be joining us. So if you hear somebody abruptly come in,

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Speaker 1: Mark's just coming from courts and Mark will be zooming

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Speaker 1: in as well. So it should be a fun time.

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Speaker 1: And on the show to day you guys like Blue

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, we have Ian Rassman and he's from l

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Speaker 1: A Normal. We're gonna get into him real big. But

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Speaker 1: thank you guys off for listening to the podcast, and

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Speaker 1: make sure you follow us on Instagram at Cannabis, Talk

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Speaker 1: one on one at Pot Underscore, Brothers, Underscore at Underscore,

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Speaker 1: Law Marks at osh Law, Craig's a wash Law Dog

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Speaker 1: Blues at one Christopher Wright and I am at Joe

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Speaker 1: grand A fifty two. But before we get to you, Ian,

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Speaker 1: I was told Craig, you have some very important news

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Speaker 1: that you want to share with Yeah. To to two items.

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Speaker 1: One is just really a statement about our current president

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Speaker 1: and how he really feels about about weed, because he's

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Speaker 1: to me, he's lying in the pass about his stance

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Speaker 1: and what he was gonna do. And I think he

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Speaker 1: got a lot of swing voters the first time when

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Speaker 1: he said leave it up to the states. But his

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Speaker 1: director of press communications, his director of press communications tweeted

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Speaker 1: how stems more worried about pot dealers than providing relief

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Speaker 1: for the American people. Because in the next coronavirus package,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have been trying to get in there um

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Speaker 1: um items that deal with cannabis and cannabis relief that

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Speaker 1: businesses that need relief in the cannabis space, and all

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Speaker 1: the Republicans keep saying that they care more about cannabis

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Speaker 1: than they do about the American people, and they're trying

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Speaker 1: to turn this into we're more worried or Democrats are

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Speaker 1: more worried about pot dealers. Is that how he's describing

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Speaker 1: legitimate licensed cannabis businesses in the States that from. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that. That's where are you reading this or

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Speaker 1: you add living this because it'sunds like you were at

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Speaker 1: living this, bro, No, it was ad libby what this

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Speaker 1: was the press? Chiming kid, This isn't a tweet from

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Speaker 1: the press communication the director of press for the president's

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Speaker 1: real election campaign. It's funny how something around this. He

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Speaker 1: that's not what we meant, that's not what we said.

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Speaker 1: When it's like, why would you let this go out?

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Speaker 1: If you're the leader of this department, right and you

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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get that everybody, that's not

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Speaker 1: How is it not what he meant? Well, that's easy,

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Speaker 1: And that's what we get this here in California, how

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Speaker 1: the d e A served a subpoena on the Bureau

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Speaker 1: of Cannabis Control to get certain information about licensed distributors.

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Speaker 1: In the subpoena, they wanted unredacted cannabis licenses, unredacted cannabis

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Speaker 1: heard that there's certain licensed companies, distributors, potential cultivators that

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Speaker 1: And UH, we heard this a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: And I think the subpoena against the three UH distribution companies.

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Speaker 1: BCC fought it. The federal court literally just came down.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna read the excerpt. U s Magistrate Judge Linda

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Speaker 1: marijuana crude oil from Mexico by specific licensees. Court finds

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Speaker 1: thus that the subpoenas and the communications between the agencies

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Speaker 1: the where which is where all the applications for distribution

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Speaker 1: Is it just the stupidity of people? I believe it is.

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Speaker 1: But with all our clients, they're spending hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 1: experiences for myself, you know, back in in the days

427
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Speaker 1: when you know, normal was around. And Bruce, Bruce, you know,

428
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: it's been in my life for for a long time,

429
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: you know. I would say in my twenties. He used

430
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: to come out to the cotton Mouth Kings events um

431
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: in Hollywood and we would be on stage with a

432
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: bunch of our boys and stuff that was rapping and whatnot.

433
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: And there was a group, you know, called the cotton

434
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Mouth Kings at the time in Cypress Hill and Bruce

435
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: would come out to those events and preach, you know,

436
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: about Normal and about the movement of cannabis and how

437
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: you know it can help people. And if anybody needed

438
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: his card, it was Bruce Martgolan And yeah. So so

439
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm known Bruce for I mean many many years.

440
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: And one of the things that, uh that kind of

441
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: was shocking to me is is I had a store

442
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: here and you know called Village Flora in Orange County,

443
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: and and I opened that store up, and you know,

444
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: I was told that I was going to get raided

445
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: and and um, I remember, you know, they were saying, well,

446
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: two things happened is you know, contact Normal and tell

447
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: them the moment it's happening. And you know, they came

448
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: out and you know and did a whole you know,

449
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: protest in front of my store. Yeah. Oh oh yeah,

450
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: you know. And then and then ye yeah, years later,

451
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I met Candice here in

452
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: Orange County. And Candice, I believe is probably the running

453
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: Normal hero part of it. She's my She's honestly truly

454
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: my hero. She really up to bring me into the organization,

455
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: showed me the path and showed me how to be

456
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: a proper active as her and Bruce really truly my

457
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: my direct personal heroes in helping get involved in this.

458
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: So so Candice and I, you know, we met my

459
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one's first studio and uh, you know,

460
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: and I was trying to explain to her like, hey,

461
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 1: you know, I think I was here blah blah, and

462
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: she actually, um uh she she was talking to me

463
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: about how, you know, they needed space to do their

464
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: meetings and or not. So I just literally was like,

465
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: here's the keys. And she's like, well, you're not gonna

466
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: be here, and I'm like, no, go ahead, and she's like, well,

467
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, here's the here's the password. The long ago,

468
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, run your meetings and set up shops. So

469
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: she ran Canada out of Cannabis Talk one oh one.

470
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: She ran the normal meetings for probably i'd say six

471
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: months or something. Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that.

472
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: She's awesome. I don't want to say she's been running

473
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: Orange County normal for like seventeen years or something, and

474
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: and and the things that she's accomplished here in Orange

475
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: County I've been really truly staggering. Yeah, she's a great person,

476
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: and like I said for me. You know, she ended

477
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: up linking up with I think O see something Else

478
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: Dispensary or something like that and doing it her meetings there.

479
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: But you know, we we we gave her the floor

480
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: for several months to just do a thing, no idea. Yeah, yeah,

481
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: But the one thing he didn't say was when he

482
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: went to go watch those bands, the cotton Mouth Kings,

483
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: he was also there to see Imperial Stars. Yeah, I mean,

484
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: don't cut the short dog. Come on, those who don't

485
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: know that was Blues Group, Imperial Assassins, Imperial Stars, one

486
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: or the other, but that you know, google the name

487
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: and you'll see the clowns and shut down the one

488
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: on one freeway and blew on top of that bus.

489
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, that's the dope part when

490
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: you think about things like that. You were performing with

491
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: those guys so normal has been around for a long time.

492
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: You get involved fifty years. What was the sniff that

493
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: made you even smell this corporation or this this organization

494
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: not corporation? Like, how did you even find them, Candice? Honestly?

495
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: And how did you find cannas and what led you

496
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: to finding Let's stick up with people with with cannabis.

497
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: And that's you know, beyond this crusade. It's hard to

498
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: even remember where I met Canvas now, but it's probably

499
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: some cannabis events somewhere along the way. And um, and

500
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: I recognized what she was doing, and I and I

501
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: saw her passion. And she's a volunteer also. Um. But she's,

502
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: like I said, they've accomplised some amazing, amazing things here

503
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: in Orange County. So um, so I joined her organization.

504
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: UM joined the board down there and and learned, you know,

505
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: just got involved and started learning. So as we were

506
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: talking to we're talking to Ian Rassman, and he's the

507
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: l a, you know, head of Normal. As we're hurting eighties,

508
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: six different countries and someone's sitting here, let on in

509
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: the United States, how do they get involved in the

510
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: normal in their area? That's a great question. So, um

511
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: they're actually are normal. Normal was really started as an

512
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: American thing to change our laws here, but there are

513
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: actually chapters all around the world. UM. I am connected up.

514
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm irish, I connected up with the chapter in Ireland.

515
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, this is great. You know, their laws

516
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: are just terrible over there. Um. Um, you can go

517
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: to Normal dot org and you can find all the

518
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: chapters that are around the country, um and even around

519
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: the world, and there's contact information and reach out to

520
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: your local chapter. But it's really important, I think, to

521
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: get involved, to do something. If you want to support

522
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: this injury as a consumer and you want to see

523
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: a grow, then you should get involved, because we're not

524
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: things are not settled yet, right, Oh how far from it?

525
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean. And and if anything, at a minimum followed

526
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: nor go to Normal's page and they have pre written

527
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: letters to your representatives, whether state federal. You put in

528
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: your zip code and it comes up with who you're

529
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: supposed to send it to. They have pre written letters

530
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: and support of cannabis and cannabis laws and bills. And

531
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: at the minimum, go on and take that move, I mean,

532
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: And that's such a minimum thing to to get off

533
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: your button do and support of this plan. If you

534
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: don't want to go out and do stuff and and

535
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: go to meetings and get like that active, at least

536
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: do that. And it's so simple to go in there

537
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: and support with the resources that are on Normal's website.

538
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: It's it's just ridiculous that that's available and so easy.

539
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: We just need more people to do it. As Dana

540
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: Warbocker told us years ago that the only thing politicians

541
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: understand is getting reelected. So you add in the form

542
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: letters that are written for you. You don't vote how

543
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: I want you to vote. In my area, we're gonna

544
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: vote you out. You know what I like about normal?

545
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: Going back to the beginning, you know, you cant talk

546
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: about our goal in and Keith, one of the uh Ian,

547
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I believe one of the

548
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: one of the founding board members was fellow named Hunter Thompson. Yeah.

549
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: I believe he was on the advisory board of directors

550
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: with Keith. Yeah. And he's a guy who believed in

551
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: the legalization of all drugs and in fact now up

552
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: in Aspen when they have normal meetings, you know, they

553
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: do those twice a year, well before COVID and they

554
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: have that big party up in Hunter Thompson's ranch with

555
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: his wife. And I've been there a couple of times

556
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: if you had a chance to go there. In no,

557
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: but that sounds pretty awesome, Mark Well and the cool

558
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: thing about it, and I still have a picture. If

559
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: you've seen the movie Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,

560
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: Dr Thompson and they got that convertible red car that

561
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: is his actual car. And that car, yep, that car

562
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: remains in his uh shed that he has on the

563
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: on the property. His wife keeps it. And Uh, I

564
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to go in there. All the heads of

565
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: normal when I was like three or four years ago

566
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: that I went stay out of that garage. I went

567
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: in there. I sat in there. I took some pictures

568
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: of the car. I'm sure after a few drinks. I'm

569
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: sure you did absolutely on iconic car, no doubt, Mark

570
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: saw I'm just gonna go in there a little tipsy,

571
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm high, I'm drunk whatever not, Mark, Ian, I want

572
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: to talk about the More Act. I mean, you know,

573
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: the More Act is there on the table. Of course,

574
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: Mark Washerman is gonna crap on it like he always does.

575
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts as he's shaking his head and

576
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: going crazy in his car right now? What are your

577
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: thoughts on the More Act and help people support this? Wow?

578
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: I wish you would right now. Um, I wasn't talking

579
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: to you, Mark, I'm talking to Ian. Please. So the

580
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: More Act Actually, it's really important. Uh. If this legislation

581
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: went all the way through, it would easily be the

582
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: most substantial piece of reform that we've seen in last

583
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: fifty years of normal history. UM. Uh so more, what

584
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: does stand for Marijuana Opportunity, Reinvestment and Expungement Act. Very briefly,

585
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: it decriminalizes marijuana and specifically removes marijuana from the list

586
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: of scheduled substances under the Controlled Substances Act, and it

587
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: eliminates criminal penalties for individuals who manufacture, distribute, or possess marijuana. UM.

588
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: This is very critical. Uh there's a critical distinction here

589
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: um in uh de scheduling rather than rescheduling. And I

590
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: don't think any of us are interested in a reschedule

591
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: of this. You go from schedule one to schedule two.

592
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like that really doesn't push us forward. It

593
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: needs to be de scheduled. It needs to be more

594
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: like alcohol and tobacco and you know, regulated and and whatnot,

595
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: but you know, not not scheduled like a like a

596
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: dangerous drug. Um. I think it's a It's you're very

597
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: right about that. I think what's happened is they they've

598
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: categorized it with the most powerful rugs on the planet,

599
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: heroin cocaine. These are manufactured, These are manufactured chemicals put

600
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: together to create a high whereas this is a plant

601
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: that is very organic and you grown on the side

602
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: of the freeway and and it literally is in in

603
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: a lot of places. I mean a lot of people

604
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know this, but when you're driving through Kentucky, you

605
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: know there's there's cannabis right there on the side of

606
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: the road. We just grows like a weed on the

607
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: side of the road and should be one of their

608
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: biggest exports. Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people don't

609
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: even know that. Like I I was actually a funny story.

610
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: This is alleged story driving driving through there one time

611
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: years ago. Dude, and I'm loaded up with something I

612
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: don't know what it was, and I'm looking over to

613
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: the side of my dude that I was like weed

614
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: right there, and we're looking at the side of it,

615
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: and I'm going there in no way and my buddies like,

616
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: that is weed right there, but I'm like, no, it's not.

617
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: We it's I literally pulled over and I'm thinking about

618
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: should I be pulling over with lead in the car,

619
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to pull over and look

620
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: at this week And I'm pulling over and I'm walking

621
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: up and sure enough. There's nugs on a planet every thing.

622
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, wait, dude, I just grab a

623
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: few at least. Yeah, And I was gonna grab some

624
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: of my buddies like don't touch it. And I'm like why,

625
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: He's like, it's trash, bro it'll you know, you'll get

626
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: a headache. It doesn't get you high, and this and that.

627
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: It's mainly for this and that, and they actually created

628
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: they grow it. There's farmers out there. They're growing it

629
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: all along the freeway and they're growing it for like,

630
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: um different purposes. But they take there, they're attracting all

631
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: the thhd out and they're using it. And I'm sure

632
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: for whatever cbns whatever you know there there's yeah, yeah,

633
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: it's really right there on the side of the freeway.

634
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: That's the problem with the more is this. Tell me,

635
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: unless we flipped the Senate, it will die on the

636
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: floor of the Senate. It's already happened, already happened with marijuana.

637
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Don't let your seven year old about flip the house.

638
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Speaker 1: And even then, we may need the sucremajority to overcome

639
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Speaker 1: a freaking veto I bib If Biden winds, which hopefully

640
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: he will you know, he's not pro cannabis. He wants

641
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: people to get rehab. Still, he's got his head up

642
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: his ass. I can't believe all the of all the

643
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: candidates had to be him. At the end of the day,

644
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I think the House of Representatives have already moved. If

645
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: we flipped the Senate, I think Biden's gonna have no

646
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: choice but to sign whatever is put in front of him.

647
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: And if they don't, I think they might be able

648
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: to come up with the majority of hopefully to overwrite

649
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: the veto. But if he vetoed some kind of bill

650
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: like that, I think that would be hell to pay.

651
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: So of course, Kamala Harris is from California, so she's

652
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, she's got she's got his ear, but he's

653
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: still he's still got the old She's from Oakland, Dog.

654
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: I think she's gonna represent the town and you know,

655
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: she's gonna represent California. That's her past. But she's ricked

656
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: on that when she was doing her job. She did

657
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: strow the hammer down, but she's really loosened up on it. Yeah,

658
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: she's doing her job and hopefully she does her job

659
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: and represents for the people. Has signed on she sponsored

660
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Speaker 1: her job she has. You hear this, do you knuckleheads here?

661
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: She is a supporter of the More Act. Oh, I

662
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: understand absolutely no. Since she's you know, since her time

663
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: and the prosecutor, she's become more progressive as far as

664
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Speaker 1: legalizing cannabis and things like that, which I understand that,

665
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: and I think she's far ahead of the game. She's

666
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: much farther ahead of the game than Biden is as

667
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: far as her thoughts on decriminalizing completely and taking her

668
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: anti scheduling it and letting the states decide. Isn't it

669
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: sad though, that we have, uh today greater than sixty

670
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: six percent of the population supporting decriminalizing and and just

671
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: stop making a crime. Yeah, and one or two points

672
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: every year. So it's continuously climbing. The representatives aren't listening.

673
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: Why don't they listen to the people that elect them? Well,

674
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: you know every state. I think it's more than that

675
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: their their thought process. I think it's that, uh, the

676
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: world's got to catch up. I mean, you know, there's

677
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: a lot of elder folks out there. They have to

678
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: believe no, no, no, that's what That's what I'm saying,

679
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: is the we're almost like a bumper car. We're pushing

680
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: them out of position, do you know what I mean?

681
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 1: Like they're sitting in there and there in the front seat,

682
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: still driving, and it's like no, no, no, no no no,

683
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: And it's like you bump them and they always don't

684
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: just pop off. You know, you physically gotta come with

685
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: this great train right now and it ain't gonna stop.

686
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: You know, I agree, the train is coming, but the

687
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: train hasn't got derailed yet. You know. To put the new,

688
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: the new folks in in the Senate, in the in

689
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: the places where anybody out there and vote, we're working

690
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: on that. It's very simply. You could probably go to

691
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: normal I know, I googled it. Just can the favor

692
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: of marijuana whole campaign called Smoke the Vote, And what

693
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: does that explain a little more in um go to

694
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: normal vote. Yeah, go to normal dot org and you

695
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: can follow on and smoke the Vote and you can

696
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: see who's supporting the legislation in different areas and you

697
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: know who who you can vote for it. I want

698
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: to stay on the More Act for a moment if

699
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: we can, because this this so and and Craig to

700
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: go back to something to what you said about the

701
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: form letters that we put out on our website. So

702
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I want to talk for a minute specifically about what

703
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: the More Act could mean for Los Angeles, Right, Okay? So, um,

704
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: the More Act as it may affect Los Angeles due

705
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: to our large population. The passage of this bill may

706
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: release federal money and assistance disproportionately to l A County.

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00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: There are eleven members of Congress in l A that

708
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: could have influence in the passage of this legislation. So

709
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: we wrote letters to these representatives asking them to sign

710
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: on to this legislation and support it, and we gave

711
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: them the bullet points that I'm about to give you

712
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: here to explain why they should do so. And we

713
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: also reached out to our community Greig with those letters

714
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, the pre formatted letter that they

715
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: could send these eleven representatives like this is your representative

716
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: copy paste, tell them that you support this. So what

717
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: could this do for l A? Expungement Number one? The

718
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: More Act would expunge the records of those with prior

719
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: cannabis convictions, and a study by the Government Accountability Office

720
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: found that Los Angeles County had the most per capita

721
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: cannabis arrests of any major county in the United States

722
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: during the period of Los Angeles County residents would thus

723
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: disproportionately benefit from a policy that would expunge expunge cannabis convictions,

724
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: which often functions as a significant barrier to obtaining employment

725
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: and other critical benefits. Right, so, at the time, at

726
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: a time of pressing economic need, the More Act would

727
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: provide a boost to some of the county's more vulnerable residents.

728
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: That's expungement. Immigration. We all know what a sensitive topic

729
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: that is UM nationally and here in Los Angeles poor

730
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: part of our story, right, Let's not forget that UM.

731
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: The More Act would also protect immigrants from being denied

732
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: citizenship because they work in the cannabis industry and remove

733
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: the threat out of deportation for those immigrants involved in

734
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: minor cannabis violations. Immigrants make up more than thirty five

735
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: percent of the population of Los Angeles County, higher than

736
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: any other major county in the United States, and the

737
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: More Act would thus provide critical protections to a substantial

738
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: percentage of county residents and help ensure that they can

739
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: participate in the growing cannabis economy without fear of reprisals.

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Speaker 1: By the federal government. You know this, this, you know,

741
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: this is directly affects me because you know, I know

742
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: plenty of my friends that I grew up with that

743
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: have gotten little little charges that were you know, they've

744
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: got caught with you know, five or five pounds of

745
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: weed back in the day, and they're trying to deport

746
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: them even half hounses for good. You know, I means

747
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: that the half pounds is not not so much unless

748
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: they have criminal records with that. But you know, four

749
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: or five pounds, I think it was over three pounds

750
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: that they would they were trying to deport you you know,

751
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: and this is somebody that was not like that didn't

752
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: just hopped the border and he was born here, bro

753
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: like his whole family was born here. I mean his

754
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: his ears weren't born here, but I mean him and

755
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: his brother were bright here like an age of like,

756
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, two years old. Where they you know, they've

757
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: been their entire life there. They've graduated high school, they're

758
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: going to college and ridiculous had a story I was

759
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: going to post the other day. I never go out

760
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: of posting it, but it was called a puff too Far,

761
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: and it's a DOCCA resident someone who's eligible for the

762
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: DOCCA program had to go back to Mexico for some reason,

763
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: and during the pandemic and all this other crap that happened.

764
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm not we're not immigration attorney, so I don't know

765
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: the exact details. But on his way back end he

766
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if he had to go

767
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: back to Mexico to fill out certain papers in order

768
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: to come back here, he had had to answer whether

769
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: he smoked weed or not. He admitted that he did,

770
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: and that kills the immigration process in Mexico. Now, how

771
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: many critical that people are making millions and millions of

772
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: dollars and this poor kid who took admitted to taking

773
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: a puff is now precluded from coming into the United States. Well,

774
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: how asked Bacts? Is that hold that? Dot Craig. We'll

775
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: be right back after this break. Welcome back, Welcome back

776
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: to Cannabis Top one oh one with Blue Joe Grande,

777
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: Martin Greig Washerman and we are here with Ian from

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00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: Normal And you know, right now before we get to

779
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: the Big High five, we got how to get back

780
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: to Ian because we were discri war on cannabis and

781
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: specifically it's impact on Los Angeles and what else you

782
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: got to say about it all? Yeah, so this is

783
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: really a core part of our story on who Los

784
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: Angeles normal is. So remember one a couple of things

785
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,800
Speaker 1: about Los Angeles. As the most populous county in the

786
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: United States with over ten million people, l A has

787
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: a population greater than forty one individual states, I know,

788
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: right hand. So, and we are arguably the largest cannabis

789
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: friendly city on the planet, right, I mean that's that.

790
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: Nobody would dispute that. So today a significant portion of

791
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: the California cannabis industry considers l A home. And there's

792
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: no doubt that significant cannabis dollars are flowing through our streets, right,

793
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean in the Bay Area as well, I mean

794
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: from yeah, you know the triflect but yeah, for Los

795
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: Angeles is definitely the porch too. They put it on there,

796
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: get rid of it, whatever or however, when it comes

797
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to cannabis, Um, there's a great dichotomy between the Los

798
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Angeles of today and the Los Angeles of the past. Right.

799
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: So l A is well known around the world is

800
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: this large melting pot with people from all over the place. Um.

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00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: And and due to our large numbers and diverse population,

802
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: we have a significant population of black, brown, and minority

803
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: residents in l A. Right, So the war on drugs

804
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: in the seventies, eighties, nineties, and two thousands ravage these

805
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: commune these locking people up in massive numbers. Um. Today,

806
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: with all the cannabis dollars flowing through Los Angeles, it's

807
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: vitally and morally important to consider social equity measures and

808
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: criminal expungement that specifically address these communities a right, So

809
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: opportunity must be created to ensure that the community is

810
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: most negatively negatively impacted by cannabis criminalization will now benefit

811
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: from this new regulated market. So this is really an

812
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: important part. And how does that happen to me? And

813
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: I love the stats and facts about it, but how

814
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: does the execution happen? How do the black and brown

815
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: get to benefit from this? Well, so we do have

816
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: a social equity program in l A. And I'm glad

817
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: that we have one, but I think it's yeah, I know,

818
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I know, so it falls short. There's no doubt, tell

819
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: the truth about it. What do you mean, don't fall shorty,

820
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: I'll jump in And just because I'm a minority is

821
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: probably easier for me to say this is that you know,

822
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unsophisticated people that have gotten these

823
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: licenses that don't know how to operate businesses. So when

824
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: you have a no no, just what the social no no,

825
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: the social echity program is different than that. These people

826
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: don't even aren't getting anything because the system was set

827
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: up unfairly hold on how people and how people applied

828
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: for social equity in the first place. We're not talking

829
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: about so the people who are already you're in, they

830
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: were in on pre I c O s. We're talking

831
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: about the people that got them and then and then

832
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: now that they have them, you've got so so me

833
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: and you let's see your multi millionairere investor. And I'm

834
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: sitting here with this but being a minority black and

835
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: the minority right, and I'm saying here, let's less go

836
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: into business. I have the money I have to own

837
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: fifty one, which means I have complete control of your money,

838
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: your business, everything that you're throwing at me. Okay, So,

839
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: which is very difficult for someone that just you know,

840
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: I give you two million dollars and say you're gonna

841
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: take it because you're yeah, And then it's not the

842
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: fact that you know no, no, you know and you

843
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: can also do a third and then and then that

844
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: though the actual the actual stuff that went down inside

845
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, I mean we're talking in Los Angeles minority.

846
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: You know, there was there was a lot of the

847
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: portals opened up early. People knew about that. They were

848
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: utilizing that the other people. So now you've also got

849
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: some kind of a sneaky like you know, I would say,

850
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: suspicion of foul play. Um and and and so you know,

851
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: and and then people you know, the outcome of all that, Yeah,

852
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 1: they gave everybody an opportunity to tell what's the outcome.

853
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: They know they're giving out an extra hundred licenses. They

854
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: did a whole research and report by some guy who

855
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: said that the people that got in early were normalized,

856
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: so whatever that means that their number was put where

857
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: it should have been if they had logged in at

858
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: the right time. And uh, that's what they found. There

859
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: was a lawsuit against the city because of all the

860
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: early signings and an alleged potential fraud. And I got

861
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: settled on the eve of a restraining order hearing, and

862
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: that's when the city allowed a hundred more in and

863
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna give out I believe the next round. They're

864
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: changing the next round from first come, first serve to

865
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: a lottery system, so it won't matter as long as

866
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: you apply within a certain window, you're gonna be up

867
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: for a lottery. And then no one can complain they

868
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: got in early or you know, there was fraud. They're

869
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: still maybe will be allegations of fraud every turn, uh,

870
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: in any type of situation like this, But they're turning

871
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: it into a lottery from a first come, first serve,

872
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: but they are giving out an extra hundred in what

873
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: was phase three, round one of social equity retail. And

874
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: they're furthermore not going to get out any licenses, I

875
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: believe until only to social equity applicants. They're getting their

876
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: coming down more stringent on the social equity applicants deals

877
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: and paperwork with the incubator or the person who's funding them.

878
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it is brutal. It's brutal that you know.

879
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 1: You know, and Oakland they put up all the money

880
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: and and and there, and they have to be in

881
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: control of the business. Well in Oakland they were giving

882
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: out grants as well, you know, and and the Oaklands

883
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: a different animal. I have not I actually got a client,

884
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: that a potential client that I got to look into

885
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: the Oakland program. Um, I'm really not sure exactly what

886
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: that programs like. But here in l A, it's, uh,

887
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: it's brutal because there were a lot of big companies

888
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: coming in trying to circumvent the rules on the social

889
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: equity applicant UH being in control. And I represented several

890
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: of the social equity applicants and my response was they

891
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: want to get in if they want to wait till

892
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: where you don't need to be a social equally applicant

893
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: anything is anybody can apply if you can find the

894
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: property in his zone that's not undue concentrated. If you

895
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: want to get in now on the back of somebody

896
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: who was arrested, going to jail incarcerated, you know that's

897
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: what it's gonna cost. But I mean, I understand the

898
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: issue though with man I'm giving this person and you

899
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: know it's a tough Well. I I I sat with

900
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: some of these these applicants myself, and and to be

901
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: honest with you, I just don't try to screw me. No.

902
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: I Well, I had to walk away because I knew

903
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: that they just didn't have the ability to operate the

904
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: business that I was looking to move forward to, and

905
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: so in that situation, and I could just have the

906
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: conversation with him and go, no, man, you know, you know,

907
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: there's no way I'm gonna pony up a million dollars

908
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: to to give you know, but I'm not sure I

909
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: could have found one. But but there were several out

910
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: there that didn't have that ability to to operate. You know.

911
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: You know what's nice in this in this what they've

912
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: done is in the next round is because everybody in

913
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: the first round, I've already secured property because that was

914
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: the requirement when you filed for your life to get

915
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: into very expensive requirement. Was that the very expensive requirement

916
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: that very Eve took out. So they took that out.

917
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: So in the second round, you're gonna have if you

918
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: if you get the picked as a lottery recipient, you're

919
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: gonna have up to a year to find property because

920
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: because now, I mean people are sucking. I had a

921
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: lot of people who had to bail out because you

922
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: know they're already holding properties per year. Yeah, lottery or

923
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: no lottery, you're gonna be after carrying property for quite

924
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: a while until you get you know, you've better budget

925
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: that in and carrying the property expensive to go through

926
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: the process, right, So at least in this round, the

927
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: are getting rid of that requirement, which I think will

928
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,479
Speaker 1: help a lot of applicants. You know, they'll be worth

929
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: a lot when they get their authorization if they're picked

930
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: in the lottery to be able to go market or

931
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: go find the partners that aren't that are going to

932
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: screw them. So there's no doubt that there were a

933
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: lot of questions over the last round of licenses that

934
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: we're giving out in some irregularities and and people getting

935
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: in first and whatnot. But let's let's be honest about

936
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: the number we're talking about here. We're talking about a

937
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: hundred licenses. You guys like, it's not grand number, that's

938
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: one one. Let's let's put that into perspective. Let's I

939
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: wish I was sitting in front of Google right now,

940
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: but let's put that into perspective. For some of the

941
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: other states that have cannabis programs UM, places like Oklahoma UM, Colorado, UM,

942
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: they're per popuota, per capita access to cannabis UM in

943
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: terms of retail locations. Dwarfs are access to cannabis here

944
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: in California, So there's so many stores everywhere exactly what

945
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a store in every freaking cornering. Why

946
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: can't you throw a cannabis store in every quarter and

947
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: other places and let people do what they need to do.

948
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: Let the markets sorted out in all the criminals brings

949
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: in the criminals. They say, isn't that crazy that that's

950
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: the out like the criminals. And not only that, you

951
00:51:52,640 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: hear said, well, well, the studies have clearly showed the opposite. Opposite. Yeah, well,

952
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: I think what's gonna happen though, is that I think

953
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of these new operators that are getting in

954
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: now will suffer later because there is gonna be that

955
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: time where it does become into Walmart's and liquor stores.

956
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sold, I believe, just like a pack

957
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: of cigarettes. And when that happens, you're still gonna have

958
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: your dispensary owner. That's like, man, what happened, just like

959
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: the liquor store owner, right, because the liquor store owner.

960
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: Now you can go to Costco and buy the bottle

961
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: of Kirkland. That's that bottle of great Goose. Yeah, so

962
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that's gonna cup right here. Player. Look

963
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: at the backpack boys, eliminates the backpack boys, and I

964
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: think it's time for the high five. Yes, I would

965
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: agree with you so many things we can talk to

966
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 1: Ian about, but it's now time for the high five

967
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: with Ian Rassman from Los Angeles Normal. It's so great

968
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: to hear everything you have to say. And I appreciate

969
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: you doing what you do for the community and representing

970
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: that black and brown like you do. I mean, I

971
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: just really want to say that I appreciate you for

972
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: doing that and uh sticking your neck out for folks

973
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: like us, and appreciate you. Thank you you guys. You

974
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: guys have been such great supporters of Normal right from

975
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: the get go, so I really have to thank you

976
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: for your support. I brought a small little gift to

977
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: get you guys caught up with Mark. I see Marks representing,

978
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: always representing. Yeah, there you go, brother, Mark is always representing.

979
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: So I brought you guys a pen. Also, now you're

980
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: gonna struggle to represent as well as Mark over there

981
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: because he's got some fancy duds. But Joe, you've lost

982
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: some weight, so I know you're gonna represent. Thank you.

983
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: Thank you for noticing you never lost a decent amount

984
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: of weight since I saw you laugh. It's because I've

985
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: been carrying Mark around the show so much that it's

986
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, helps me and log. Craig, here's one with

987
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: saying Joe was Joe was fat? No, Craig, here's one

988
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: for you. Who can I trust to give it to you? Here?

989
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: Just stick it to give it to the black guy.

990
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: He said, give it the pit. I trust him the most,

991
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: see that, Pinocchio. Here we go Question High five. Question

992
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: number one with Ian Rassment from the Los Angeles Normal.

993
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: How old are you the first time you got high?

994
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: And where'd you get it from? Uh? Let's see, I

995
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: was um nineteen in college. I was fairly late. I

996
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: suppose what school did you go to? I was up

997
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: in questa question where that? Oh nice, it's okay, A

998
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: little bit up north? Yea cool, right up in Central Coast.

999
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: Question number two of the High five. I guess what

1000
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: is your best? What? What? What? Oh? My God? To

1001
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: use cannabis? I suppose back in the day it was

1002
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: a traditional flower like a joint, just a joint. Thanks

1003
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: for joining us, Craig. Number three, Question number three of

1004
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: the High five with Ian of Normal Los Angeles Chap

1005
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: craziest place you've ever used an abyss or smoked it. Um,

1006
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, going you know you sparked a memory

1007
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: about the standing on the bus. I was in Australia,

1008
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: I think in two thousands or two thousand and one, UM,

1009
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 1: doing a tour along the East coast and you end

1010
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: up in Byron Bay and uh, and suddenly you're like,

1011
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm like thirty minutes from Nimben. Nimben is

1012
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: like the Venice Beach of like off the books, you know,

1013
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: back as it was in the eighties, is off the

1014
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: book sort of place to go, and it was well

1015
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: known that the police didn't crack down on it or

1016
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: anything there. So headed off to Nimbin on a little,

1017
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, ten person shuttle bus with a bunch of

1018
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: other tourists backpackers. Um. We get up there. There's there's

1019
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: a two dispensaries in town. It's small town's one street,

1020
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 1: maybe one intersection. UM. Two dispensaries, um and and a

1021
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: Hemp cannabis museum with the claims of the world's biggest joint.

1022
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: So I got into dispensary, get what I was looking for,

1023
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: and I go out UM and UM consumed a little

1024
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: bit right there in the dispensary, and then I head

1025
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: out to go check out the museum. I come out

1026
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: of the museum and there's police cars everywhere, like, oh yeah,

1027
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: so the police showed up um with dogs and went

1028
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: in to raid the dispensaries. I swear to God on

1029
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: the this was like tolerated and invent and the one

1030
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: freaking day I go there, the police decided to make

1031
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: an example of it and cracked down. And they went

1032
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: into the dispensary and arrested mostly tourists. I don't think

1033
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: they actually arrested them, but they sort of processed them

1034
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: and brought them out. I come out of the museum

1035
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good. I see what's going on. I'm like

1036
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: starting to get the shakes going. Shoot, I was just

1037
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: in there five minutes ago. Um, and they brought drug

1038
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: dogs in and if the dog sat down next to you, oh,

1039
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 1: I was never there. Yeah, I don't know any of

1040
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: those so anyway, but they did release all the tourists.

1041
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: We get back on the bus. The tour guides like, Okay,

1042
00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: that was that's not the So we're to go to

1043
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: a little park and unwind, and so we did. We

1044
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: headed off to this little hill overlooking the lake and

1045
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: sat down and everybody talked about how they got busted

1046
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: by the police on their tourist visit to Australia. What

1047
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: a high the guy. So the bus thing, this guy

1048
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: and and a whole bunch of counter protesters showed up

1049
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: for this thing too. So you have this bus, uh,

1050
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: like a hippie old school bus converted and painted rainbow

1051
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: colors all over the place. And this guy and like

1052
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: a green one piece jumps suit like the Riddler from Batman,

1053
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: gets up and he starts with this microphone on the

1054
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: top of the bus, and he's rallying people and like,

1055
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: there's this chance. And when the dog, when the police

1056
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: dogs got out of the car, they started this chant

1057
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: who let the dogs out? And like the crowds shot

1058
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: back exactly. Um, that was That was absolutely probably one

1059
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: of my more wild cannabis experience because I was on

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Speaker 1: the more or less the good side of that experience.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you're not getting cuffs on, you're always

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Speaker 1: on the good side. By by minutes by literally just

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Speaker 1: meant I missed that one. Fantastic That was a blessing.

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Speaker 1: Definitely one of the crazier stories. We heard alright, Ian,

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Speaker 1: we are on question number four of the Cannabis Talk

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Speaker 1: One on One high five what five go too munchy?

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Speaker 1: When you get hot? Curbably ice cream? I spozed ice cream?

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Speaker 1: What kind of ice cream? You? Yeah? Species? What kind

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Speaker 1: of ice cream? And I not? Yeah, ice cream is

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Speaker 1: ice cream. I had some last night. I had what

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Speaker 1: kind you have? I had the strawberry shortcake, the delicious

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Speaker 1: Yeah from the ice cream check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's funny because I just got

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Speaker 1: my son for the first time. I got on one

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Speaker 1: of those taco ice creams and he's Chaco Taco. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Chaco Taco. And at first, I'm like, let's get a

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00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: taco ice He looks at me sideways. I'm like, no,

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: I go, They're really good. But he's looking at the

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Speaker 1: list and he's allergic to red dice so he's like,

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00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: he's very limited to what kind of ice cream you

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Speaker 1: can get, right, So he finds the size on the

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Speaker 1: This is about two weeks ago he had that. He goes,

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Speaker 1: I get my daughter a bite. Oh my god, they're

1084
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: like hooked. Where can we get the us good too? Though?

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Speaker 1: Oh y ufo, those are all bombed right there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: question number five with a high five E. And if

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Speaker 1: you could smoke cannabis with anyone, uh, you know, I

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna go with um, Stephen Hawking or Copernicus

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00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: or Galile or somebody that really had um that was

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00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: responsible for some profound discoveries about our place in the

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00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: universe and really how small we are UM in comparison

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Speaker 1: to the scientists. Yeah, I'm a huge cosmology fan, just

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00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: a big nerd when it comes to space. UM. And

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Speaker 1: I think that would be cool to sit down and

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00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: have a philosophical conversation. You know, why are we here

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00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: with with some of those How did you come up

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00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: with the theories? And how did you figure out? What

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00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: did your theory? Now though, real quick, let's just go

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01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: to that's take another show. I know, it's so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny as you say that, and I can trip

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01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: out on that sometimes too, not only like when did

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Speaker 1: they figure out it was around? When did they figure

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: out space? When did you guys figure out the different planets?

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01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: And there's a new planet in this and that. It's

1105
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: just like it's so baffling. Sometimes you feel like you're stoned. Yeah,

1106
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, you have to sort of think about that

1107
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: sometimes when you look at what's going on in the

1108
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: world today and and you know, just just try and

1109
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: keep it in perspective. You know, we're just done this

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01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: tiny little rock in the corner of the universe that

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01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: nobody knows about, spinning around this hot ball of fire,

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01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: and you know, and there you have it. So try

1113
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: and do some good each day. Um, and you don't

1114
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself? Said A great way to wrap

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Speaker 1: it up, brother, anything else you want to plug before

1116
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Speaker 1: we let you go? Um, please do come support us

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Speaker 1: at Los Angeles Normal. I mean, we are an all

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01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: volunteer organization. UM, so we're definitely looking for people in

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: the community that have energy to give and want to

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01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: join us. Please come check out l a Normal dot org. Um.

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Speaker 1: We do regular public monthly meetings where we bring in

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Speaker 1: educational speakers. UM. Celebrities. Are you guys came onto our show?

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Speaker 1: That was fantastic. Appreciated having you guys on our show

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Speaker 1: a few months ago, just the Pop Brothers. No. All

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Speaker 1: for you guys was that there were we there. I

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: don't remember and see they don't they just put it

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Speaker 1: on when you're no, no, no, that was the actually

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Speaker 1: prerecorded that was prerecorded. I was a pre recorded show.

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Speaker 1: Mark remember we came that was the Tommy Chong show.

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Speaker 1: We had Tommy Chong. Yeah, um, and so so definitely, Look,

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Speaker 1: we're definitely looking right now for volunteers in our marketing. Government, affairs, membership,

1132
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: and community aren't reach departments. UM. So please, if you

1133
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: have some energy to to to give to pushing this

1134
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: industry forward, please do you reach out to us. UM.

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Speaker 1: These public monthly meetings that we do are free and

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Speaker 1: they're on the third Wednesday of each month at four

1137
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Speaker 1: pm UM. And you can check us out on Facebook

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Speaker 1: it's Los Angeles Normal, LinkedIn l A Normal and Instagram

1139
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: at Los Angeles Normal. There it is there, it is guys.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me say one other thing really quick

1141
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: to Ian Tom. I recently had a quicker conversation with

1142
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Speaker 1: Keith Stroupe, who, as you mentioned, the founder of the

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Speaker 1: Normal years ago. He is going to be coming on

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Speaker 1: Cannada's Top one one shortly at a little Fantastic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That guy has got some stories. I mean he has

1146
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Speaker 1: he has these stories. Oh my goodness. Yeah, that's gonna

1147
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Speaker 1: be an epic uh, an epic episode. Canadas Talk one

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Speaker 1: of mine. Well, guys out there, if you're listening to we,

1149
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Speaker 1: we do want you to go out to cal normal

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Speaker 1: and make sure you go to normal dot com that's

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Speaker 1: n O r M L spelled normal or dot org

1152
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Speaker 1: again and make sure you do support. Just don'tate a

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Speaker 1: little time, don't a little of your energy, a little

1154
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Speaker 1: bit of your mind, maybe a little bit of your money.

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Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one one. Remember this if no one else,

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Speaker 1: she loves you. Thanks for listening to another podcast of

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Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one oh one, the world's number one source

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Speaker 1: for everything cannabis, featuring Ian Rassman from Los Angeles. Normal