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One up in Selectate's First 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: on nine Really any way, your only Tendell first pose 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: required owns issue A expliers fourteen days, have to receipt 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: restrictions appliese terms of sports dot Com Probabler the volume. 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the Richard Sherman Podcast. We got a 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 1: Thursday night game and Mitchell wanted to come on here 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: in preview. Mitchell, we have to Rich, I mean, this 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: is this is must win territory for for both teams, 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: but more so for the Seattle Seahawks. Rich I want 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: to start with Seattle playoff implications. We talked about it 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, we said, don't be 21 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: surprised if they're in this situation. At least you did. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: I thought you were crazy, But here we are. What's 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: going on, rich Well, Mitchell. They're they're in a spot, 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: they're in striking distance Mitchell, but they're they're they're kind 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: of falling apart at the finish line. It's like the 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: four dash and you're at the last hunter and you're like, man, 27 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: look just kick, just get a kick in there, and 28 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: and they're not kicking Mitchell. The monkey is on their 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: back and it's mostly on the defenses back. They have 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to get it corrected. You got you got veteran guys 31 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: like oh Wood's Jordan's Brooks has been you know, I 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: think he's second in the league and tackles Terrek wool 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and we talked about him all year leading the league 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: in interceptions, Quandre Diggs, big time playmaker out there, and 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: old school veteran Bruce Irvan. You know, we got to 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: help get him away. But the time of possession right 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: now for their team, Mitchell is upside down. They're getting 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: doubled Mitchell. That's not enough as an offense. You know, 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: people are like you don't needs to do more well. 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: He needs more time. He needs more time. So they 41 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: need to get that fixed. They need to get some 42 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: stops on defense. They need to be run the ball offensively, 43 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 1: and then they'll have a chance. But if they don't 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: get that fixed, Mitchell this Thursday, it's not gonna be fun. Uh. 45 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: They're they're one in three in their last four and 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: they got the Niners and then Casey Away and then 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: they played the Jets and who knows that. We know 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: they own the Ramps, especially in the regular season. They've 49 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: they've had their number of late but this schedule is 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: a gauntlet down the stretch and they must win. I 51 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: hate to say it. Every game. They got the Lions 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: nipping on their heels, uh my hometown nipping on their kneecaps, 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: not their nipping on the knees. And they got the 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: Commanders and the Giants ahead of them. So this running 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: game you alluded to it, it's been off recently. Kanine 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker the third my guy for those watching on YouTube, 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: Michigan State Spartans, go Green, go White, goes State. But 58 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: if he's not healthy, what does that mean for this 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: team with or without him? Um They're in a rough 60 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: spot with the running backs they got. They they have 61 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Travis Homer, who who who you know did okay, but 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: even with Kenneth Walker Junior, their rushing yards were just 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: supremely low. You know, they just hit a wall. I 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a blocking scheme. I don't know 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: if people have just figured them out and gapped out 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: the I don't know if there's injuries on offensive line. 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like anybody's injury. But just because they 68 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: aren't on an injury report doesn't mean they're not hurting. 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: It's a long season off the line, one of the 70 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: hardest positions to play in the National Football League. But 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: now you've got Eric Armstead and Nicholas John Bosa Mitchell. 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: That's not what you wanna that's not what you want 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: to see when and then you got Chris Jones and 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: Frank Clark the next week, and then you got Quinnin 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Williams and the Boys because he should be just coming 76 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: back at that point from the strange calf like, it's 77 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: not getting any easier for the offensive line, so they 78 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: need to get it fixed now. And it's gonna be tough. 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: That's a this is gonna be the best defense they 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: faced all year. In the off fenses down the rhythm. 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, you think, oh, we're gonna catch a break. 82 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: We got a third string quarterback, like, oh my god, 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: they're banged up, but the third string quarterback giving the 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: ball to Christian McCaffrey behind Trent Williams and the boys. 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: You know, Brandon a you coming off of one of 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: his best games of the season. George Kittle was still 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: at all you know, all pro Pro Bowl talent, a 88 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: guy that could get going at any time point in time. 89 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: And so you think you're catching a break. They're a 90 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: little banged up, it's a Thursday game, but Kyle Shanahan 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: is drawing it up with the best of them. This 92 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: quarterback is more mobile than you think, and they have 93 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: problems with mobile quarterbacks. I know you love this forty 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: Niners defense, and rightfully so, they've got to be one 95 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: of the best defenses we've seen, you know, frankly since 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: the legion of Boom Rich. But put yourself in Pete 97 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: Carroll's position right now. What are you doing to game 98 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: plan to beat the forty Niners. I'm going back to 99 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: the basics, Mitchell. I'm running three deep. I'm stacking the box. 100 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm making the receivers beating me down the field like 101 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to beat my I'm gonna trust the rookie. 102 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: I gotta trust it like you did with the Legion 103 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: of Boom. I'm gotta put eight in the box. Have 104 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: us gapped out because we're not stopping to run well 105 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: right now, and we have to stop something. We have 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: to change something. This quarter scheme that they brought all 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: these guys in the run is doing okay against the past, 108 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: but you're not stopping anybody in the run game. So 109 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: do you really really want to continue that. It's losing 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: your ball games. They that I want to say, they're 111 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: giving up an average of two hundred yards a game 112 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: over the last four games. And you said, like you said, 113 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: there one and four in those ball games. So you 114 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: have to change something up. And Pete Carroll knows discover 115 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: three scheme, go back to it. It's gapped out, whether 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: it's going to stone fronts or underfronts or overfront and 117 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: going to base defense. Are playing nickel and running running. 118 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, I can't give you guys calls, but running 119 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: cover three week or cover three strong and these guys 120 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: just knowing, hey, this gap is these gaps are all 121 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: taken care of, and guys just have to own their gaps. 122 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: And you can play fast like that and you're playing 123 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: against some young corner Yes it puts pressure on your cornerbacks. Yes, 124 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: it puts pressure on your safeties. But it has to 125 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: be somewhere right now. What you've been doing for the 126 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: past four weeks is not working. Has to change. What 127 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: are you doing offensively to beat this vaunted defense? So well, 128 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: your only chance it's taking shots down the field. Metchell, 129 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: you've got to Pro Bowl, All Pro Ride receivers. You 130 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: gotta take your chances down the field. You gotta char 131 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: various award is gonna be on one. Diamador Lenore who's 132 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: been playing really well. Um in the absence of Emmanuel 133 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: Moseley has been has been doing fine. But you gotta 134 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: take your chances there. You gotta you gotta trust that 135 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett Um or DK Metcalf can can have a 136 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: chance against them, and you gotta give him a chance. 137 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: Geno Smith has been playing unbelievable football, but they're expecting 138 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: to play hero ball like it's unfair what they're asking him. 139 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: To do with no run game at all. You know, 140 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: with the semblance of a run game, you're like, Okay, 141 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: you know, go do your thing. But they're not giving 142 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: him anything from the run game, and he's still been 143 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: able to get it done for the most part. He 144 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: just haven't hasn't had the time. You know, if one 145 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: team has forty minutes of offense and the other team 146 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: has twenty minutes of ball offense, you could you it's 147 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: it should be easily to expect the other team to win. Well, Richard, 148 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: this is this is one of uh, I guess the 149 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: best probably the best Thursday night football game of the year. 150 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: I know you're excited to be on the broadcast, to 151 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: be there in person with Thursday night football, UM, certainly 152 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna be easy for it. You don't have to travel 153 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: very far for it. But Vegas has this as a 154 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: forty nights are favored by three and a half. Um, 155 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: who do you who do you like in this game? 156 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: What's your what's your score prediction at the end of it? Well, 157 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: it's a divisional game, so you know, all all uh 158 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: not in Vegas, but all bets are off. You know, 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: it's easy, you're said, but uh, but all bets are off. 160 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: So it's a division game. Anything can happen. It's on 161 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: a Thursday night, short week. Um, deebo. Samuel's just just 162 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: got injured there, banged up. Both teams are sore. Um. 163 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: But you just you just are concerned with the weaknesses 164 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: that the Seattle Seahawks showed last week, in the week 165 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: before and against the Raiders. You know, Brandon Jacobs. You're like, 166 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's just Brandon Jacobs, but they did it. Carolina 167 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: did it with for with deantre formant and he was 168 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: running it up and down the field. It ran for 169 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: another two forty and so you're now you're like, hey, 170 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: that's a real problem. And I don't think two days, 171 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: three days, there's enough time to get it fixed schematically 172 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: unless you go back to the basics, you know, go 173 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: back to the scheme, you know, go back to your 174 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: bread and butter, the foundation of it. And I hope 175 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: they do well. Rich. I know you're excited for this one. 176 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: And next time we're gonna be seeing you is on 177 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: on Thursday night football. Let you sign us off, and 178 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be welcoming a big time guest, certainly 179 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: one of my favorite athletes over the last decade. I'll 180 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: let you introduce him as well. Yeah, Mitchell, appreciate you 181 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: joining us. Appreciate everybody who's stuck around. This guy is 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: when you're really gonna want to stick around for Honolulu 183 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: Blues favorite son, one of the best to ever put 184 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: on that jersey. Unfortunately, the Detroit Lines need to change 185 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: some things and bring them back in the folding and 186 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: maybe give him a parking spot and to build them keys, 187 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: you know, a bathroom, maybe in office. I don't know. 188 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: You need to make him feel better. But Calvin Johnson 189 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: is joining us, stay too, Welcome back. It's the Richard 190 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Sherman Podcast. I got an incredible guest, the great Megatron 191 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson. Man, I appreciate you joining. How you been 192 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: good to be here? Man, good to see I'm doing 193 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: good Man, Families doing well. Business is doing well. So 194 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm all good. When I got out of the game, 195 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: you know, I was in a little bit in flux 196 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: like everybody else for the most part, trying to figure 197 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: out exactly what I wanted to do. So I stuggled 198 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: what I was, what I was already doing. I was 199 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: doing some real estate and form doing real estate was 200 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: able to get into some quote unquote green zones and 201 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: buy some properties in the cannabis space and um. From there, 202 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: we decided to you know, we could be a landlord, 203 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: create some passive income, or we can you know, put 204 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: a team together, and we did the ladder. You know, 205 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: we put a good team together and we've been marching 206 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: every since. How I mean, that's basic incredible. My brothers 207 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: in it. And he has a fifteen thousand square foot 208 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: unit in North Hollywood. He was one of the first 209 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: to get his license in California because they were you know, 210 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: he had some some past transgressions and they end up 211 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: developed been a social equity program that allowed him to 212 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: be first in line. You know, you just have to 213 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: have a capital to do it. And it's gone. It's 214 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: been great form, man, and so whodos to being in 215 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: on that early. It's it's it that's the barrier for 216 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: for anybody, but especially for black folks just you know, 217 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: it's so capital intensive, man. You know, everybody's asking how 218 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: do they get into the industry. You know, it's black 219 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: folks in general, and I'm just like, you know, you 220 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: gotta have the capital, you gotta have the world ball. 221 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: But the capital is the main thing, but there's a 222 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: lot of ways to be involved in the industry and 223 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: actually having the license and building out, you know, doing 224 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: brick and mortar. You know, you can provide ancillary services 225 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: to the business, to packaging and marketing. There's a lot 226 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: of services that work with this business. Have you done 227 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: any deals with Cliff because Cliff is big in the 228 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: real estate space, and you know, I know you guys 229 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: teammates in Detroit and he's been everywhere real estate right now, 230 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: I haven't done anything big in the real estate space 231 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: as far as I mean non cannabis really since I've 232 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: been in the cannabis space, really been head down that 233 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: family and foundation. So that's taking all my thought spare time, 234 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: and really if it's non cannabis base related currently and 235 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: not really you know about too much of an eye 236 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: at it. There are some projects, bigger projects that are 237 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: out there, but it's just out there. It's just in 238 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: the area right now. Well, matter that I'm that you've 239 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: done great in your career, you're gonna do great in 240 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: that industry. I mean, it's growing rapidly. Do you think 241 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna go corporate? Do you think most people are 242 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna end up, you know. I mean, the tobacco industry 243 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: is going up monopolize and eating everybody seems and that's 244 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: the fight here in Michigan. You know, we're part of 245 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: the Michigan Cannabis Industry Association, and that's the fight is 246 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: to keep basically at the end of the day, keeping 247 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: corporate cannabis out of the industry. You know, a lot 248 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: of people that have been here to people that have 249 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, have suffered from minorities or just anybody else had. 250 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Like you said, those past train transgressions in the industry 251 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: allow them to flourish. And if you allow corporate to 252 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: come in that you lose that whole essence of being 253 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: able to allow those who are impacted the most buy it, 254 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: to be able to have some kind of financial fluency 255 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: through the industry. That's a blessing thing because in California, 256 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: they even they're even starting to release people in jail, 257 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, that had marijuana related charges and things like that, 258 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: no matter how much it was, no matter what the 259 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: the and taking it off their record. So I mean, 260 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: we're seeing progress hopefully hopefully. I mean every year you 261 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: you hear about it potentially getting legalized federally. Um. I mean, 262 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: you know we thought Biden would do it, but you know, 263 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: here we are and you ain't done. You think somebody 264 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: would run on there, figured it might that might have 265 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: to help get him over the hut right there, right right, 266 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Well it's coming up, somebody gonna right on the your 267 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: A line. Uh well, speaking of your retirement, because you know, 268 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm on in that transition phase right now, and like 269 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: you said, it's ups and downs to that, you know, 270 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: and you you retired with with with a lot of 271 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: gas left in the tank. Any regrets about you know, 272 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 1: stopping when you did, or anytime you went back and 273 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: be like, hey, I might want to play our team 274 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: called or something. I mean I could have kept playing. 275 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: I could have liked lempt along, but that wasn't who 276 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: I was. You know. I came to the league. I 277 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: said I had a couple of goals. I wanted to 278 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: play for teen years and I have like ten thousand yards, 279 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 1: you know, just be known to have that. I just 280 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: want to leave my my name on the record books, 281 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: you know, any sort of fashion I could and I 282 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: was able to do that I did in nine years. 283 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, I wanted I wanted to stop playing after 284 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: eight years, you know, and now it just coming to 285 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: that's just because the body, man, and the body, the 286 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: stresses on the body mentally. You know, I was just 287 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: over at the time. I didn't feel like you know, 288 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: at the time the organization was was going up. You know, 289 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: it was more so just deconstructing, you know. But I 290 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: mean she was kudos to the Lions now, you know, 291 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: they that they had they had a hell of the 292 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: last six weeks, you know, so you know, I love 293 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: what they're doing over there right now. But yeah, man, 294 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: the body, the body, the body talks to you. You know, 295 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: if you're not getting peace of mind, and I didn't 296 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: have peace of mind, you know, they're just living in pain. 297 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: You know. That's not that's not that's not quality of life. 298 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's not at all. And that's that's what 299 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: kind of kind of let me know that I was 300 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: done last year. I try to come back with the 301 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks, you know, trying to run with time 302 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: and try to get to get trust, slide one more 303 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: on the finger and uh and we got out there 304 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: and the Redskins game. You know, first of all, commanders 305 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: are they were the football team that whatever they are yeah, 306 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: we played. We played the whole time. They were you know, 307 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: right right right they were. But like, my body was 308 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: still good. I had a good week of practice. You know, 309 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: I was coming off injury, but I felt good. I 310 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: finally felt in shape. Like I was like, I'm about 311 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: to go out there and finally you know me shine. 312 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: And when I tell you, we were jogging out for 313 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: warm ups, got my helmet own, jogging out for warm ups, 314 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: and I screamed, my damn calf. I didn't even get that. 315 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: I tell you, old man, that's what I'm telling you. 316 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: Your body telling you. That's exactly when they warmed up. 317 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: That was the hardest conversation I ever had. I had 318 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: to go up to the coach and be like, hey, 319 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: I can't go to that. I can imagine like you 320 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: you yeah, you're good all week, not even on the 321 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: injury report. And then he come up pregame like coaching 322 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: tweet something looking at me. They already didn't done to 323 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: forty six man, Like I already didn't put that through 324 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: this In all I was in that locker room. I 325 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: called my wife. I said, hey, this might be it. 326 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: That's my big but they ain't got much smoke. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, 327 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: how they're gonna talk to you. But yes, sir, yeah, 328 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: but your boy Stafford got out. He got out of Detroit. 329 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: He got out of Detroit, and you know that you 330 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: have to be happy for him, you know, I think 331 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: that was everybody asked me if you know what happened 332 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: for Matthew. You know, I kept in kind I'm still 333 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: keeping contact with Matthew, but I was, you know, I 334 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: was really happy for the fact that, you know, it 335 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: happened the first year that he went to l A. 336 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, it just goes to show we had the tools, 337 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: We had what we needed in Detroit. We just need 338 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: to go all in. We just can go all in 339 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: at the time, you know, but we had the tools. 340 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: And it just shows that, you know, a different culture, 341 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: You're going to a different culture. You know. Um now 342 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: things can change. Would that have changed anything for you? 343 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Like if you if you would if the Patriots or 344 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and you know, when we're in our prime 345 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: or you know, the Cowboys, somebody would have called and 346 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: been like, hey, Detroit, we're gonna give you a few 347 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: first round pick give us man to Troy, and we're 348 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: gonna change the same for him, Like your body still 349 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, your body is still your body. 350 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: But with that have re energized you and gave you that. 351 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: You know, I believe one. I believe that. You know, 352 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: if you got to contender that calls up, that's gonna 353 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna, like you say, right what you said, it's 354 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: gonna reenergize that body. I believe, like you know what 355 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: made me. I can't go out here and try to 356 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: try to slide with my finger. Hey, I'm sure Aaron 357 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: Rodgers with a card and told today right about now, 358 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: hey give up. I don't give a damn by the 359 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: division or nothing. I got tired of seeing I got 360 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: tired of seeing them on the other side of the field, 361 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: and I got tired of saying, bro, and he always 362 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: beat you on some crazy way, some heil Mary behind them. 363 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: What don't do that all? You gotta bring that back up. 364 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: That was the one time I was supposed to get 365 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: my one interception. They pulled me like so they sent 366 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: me you know, they send on the receivers that for 367 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: the for the for the heil Mary, and they pulled 368 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: me back. They called the time out of something. They 369 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: pulled me back and send the regular defense back on. 370 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you mean, Like there's only one play here? 371 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: He got to go to the end zone, Like who 372 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: was better to do this right now? And then yeah, yeah, 373 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: like what are we doing? What are we doing? You 374 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: don't take you out the game decisions like that. Man. 375 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I still I still remember the first time we played 376 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: you and I did the whole optimist prime thing and 377 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: that was hilarious. That was hilarious. But like I've been 378 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: telling people, I was like, you're the best player I 379 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: had ever played against. I ain't lined up against many 380 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: people where I'm like god Lee, like every day playing 381 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: y'all went bomb first playing, I said, okay, damn, we 382 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: didn't get that either. But look you had that too. 383 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: I said, we're probably about to go on a long 384 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: ride right here. Let me go ahead and get my legs. 385 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: You were ready to you, but earlier before we played, 386 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,479 Speaker 1: all our coaches tried to install that, like like Gunner, 387 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: I forget to Saint. So somebody had did it to 388 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: you in the red zone. Boy, we must have walked 389 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: out of that. Me and I said, co man, come 390 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: on now, like he a Hall of Famer, but like 391 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: I like, it's like, come on now, you ain't gonna 392 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: just like I ain't gonna slout. You gotta let him 393 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: eat me and then you can do all that. But 394 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: you was the first person they did that too. Yeah, 395 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: that that was crazy. Man. When I saw it, I 396 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: was just like, you know what the hell they're doing? 397 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: All right, Matthew, let's go. It's just embarrassing food right now. 398 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: He was such a damn gun slinger. Missed the fingers, 399 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: man going gang signs. That don't even mean to you 400 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They're doing rockets all the time, man, 401 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: But you just gotta get that. It's it's the funny thing. 402 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: We're just watching new guys come to the team that 403 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: hadn't you know, had a quarterback like that, and just 404 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: like seeing them like that first past and they're like 405 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: looking at him like like what's this? Yeah, hey, you 406 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: see these fingers that you just get used to it. 407 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: Don't worry. He's gonna put it on you though, right right. 408 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be where you want. It's gonna be hard 409 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: to be somebody shots. You know, you're gonna have some bruises. 410 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: You have to miss the fingers, but hey, just be 411 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: happy he's gonna put it on you. There's worse. There's 412 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: worse things in the world. But that year y'all had 413 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: tightest young you know who was my boy? You know 414 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: he kind of went the this thing. But he was talented. 415 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: Um No, Well, I trained with him for the draft 416 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: and we had the same agents, so I know him 417 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: really well. And he was would that's one hell of 418 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: a talent, but he had he had a great opportunity, man, 419 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: he did. Yeah. Yeah, that was one of the sad ones. 420 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: So you played to the kid too, though, Yeah, very good, 421 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: very very good, good heart good. He know, he just 422 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: got kind of lost in the in the league. Yeah. 423 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: But you played against a lot of great cornerbacks. Obviously, 424 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: you played against Derail, you played against Champ, you played 425 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: against him some some of the greatest to ever played. 426 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, Chuck when he was playing. Uh who do 427 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: you think the best cornerbacks, um, that you ever went against? Um, 428 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: if I got the top five, I'm talking to you 429 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: right now. It's like you got Derail, I got pat P, 430 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: I got Chuck, And I always plut out Harrison this 431 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you the reason why I play out 432 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: heirs and this because I got me right, man. My 433 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: first year you know, going against it was just more 434 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: of an attitude thing. Royal Williams, he hated it going 435 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: and going into that first game you can playing out, Roy, 436 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: sorry about that. Roy has always be like, man, I 437 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: can't stand playing against oh yeah, out of yeah, And 438 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, so I'm like, oh, well, well 439 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: that's your problem. You got him all game going behold 440 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: the whole game he was on me, and I got 441 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: to see firsthand why he hated going against how every 442 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: play he's jamming everything, He's trying to get his hands 443 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: in your face. You know, he's gonna carry, he's gonna 444 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: ride you. You know, it's just the most annoying. But 445 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: he's talented, so he's just like just giving it all 446 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: to you, and it's very frustrating. It's a very frustrating game. 447 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be a battle, it's gonna be 448 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, but it's like almost as if you're in 449 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: the trenches on the whole game with this guy. And 450 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: I think that just playing somebody like that, that that 451 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: came at me every play, NonStop. Whether he was hurt 452 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: the prey before, he's still gonna play. You know, that 453 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: kind of attitude just kind of got me right, So like, okay, 454 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: I gotta go against this and my division tries to 455 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: get twice a week, let alone who else has come 456 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: behind me? Okay, I see that, I see the mindset 457 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: I gotta have. Yeah, I mean he was he was 458 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: one of the greats that never gets enough credit. I 459 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: mean one of the all time great press corners. Like 460 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: putting all the all the arms. I'm putting your hands 461 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: on You're not just standing up here. I'm putting hands 462 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: on you every time quarters. Hey, well look for me. 463 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: If if you running for five, you gotta have something. 464 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: You gotta ask some to make up the difference. Baby, amen? Amen, 465 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: what do you think you would be a great receiver 466 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: coach or a greater receiver coaching and then the dB coach? Yes, yes, 467 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: sometimes i'ld be a better dB coach than I would 468 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: be a receiver coach because you got to see it 469 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: and go against it. You know what gave you the 470 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: most problems? You know, like, yeah, that's a great point. 471 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: Football season is heating up, and now it's a perfect 472 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: time to download fan Duel, America's number one sports book, 473 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: because right now new customers get a no sweat first 474 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: beat up to one thousand dollars. 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Has there ever been any thoughts in your 492 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: head of like coming back, Hey, they got they gotta 493 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: retire your number. You got the gold Jackie. Now, let's 494 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: not be silly, you know what I mean, let's not 495 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: be stupid Detroit like I couldn't believe they. I don't 496 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: know if you want to talk about it. I don't 497 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: know if you want to go there, you tell me 498 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: if you know. You know what. So I got to 499 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: meet um, you know, Mike Disner. He's come over to 500 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: the Lions recently. You know, he's been around the league 501 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know he's from Detroit. You know, 502 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: he wants to try to make that relationship right. So 503 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm faithful that, you know, having people like 504 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,239 Speaker 1: that around the organization that want to make that thing right. 505 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: I want to make it right because essentially, at the 506 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: end of the day, man, if I'm not associated, you know, 507 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: with the Lions, that kind of hurts everything that goes 508 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: on in the NFL too. Be kind of you know, 509 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm almost like a like a like a step child almost, 510 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: you know. So I not not saying that a step 511 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: child is bad or anything, but I'm just kind of 512 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: like I'm not, you know, little cast off a little bit. 513 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: You're not saying that step child I chose their own word. 514 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: But but I mean being in obviously in the good 515 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: graces with the team. Um, that helps being in the 516 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: good graces with the NFL. Unfortunately it works that way. UM, 517 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: But obviously I do really want to be around the guys. 518 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: I want to be around the team because I know 519 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: I have a lot to get back to the play. 520 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: It's not just my position to dv Real, just the 521 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: team in general. You know, I've been there a lot, obviously, 522 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: from football to the business. So there's a lot of 523 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: stuff that I could, you know, take full circle. I 524 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: love taking my experiences and sharing them with those that 525 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: are coming up, because we didn't have enough enough of 526 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: that in the black community. We didn't have people that were, 527 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, constantly like hey, this is how you do this. 528 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: But at the same time, we have to know who 529 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: we you know, we gotta be able to go and 530 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: ask those questions to um and not be whether it 531 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: private probably getting the way of doing that. So I've 532 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: been in both of those places, you know, so I've 533 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: seen that thing full circle. I just want to be 534 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: there too, you know, to be armed just so you know, 535 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: they got questions about whether it's football or life and 536 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: jen On Okay, I'm an open book. So that's how 537 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: it should be, especially with the greats game like you 538 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: are one of the old time greats to ever play 539 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: the game, and obviously one of the greats that you 540 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: and Barry are the lines that anybody will ever remember. 541 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: You think of Detroit, you think of the jersey, the 542 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: Honolulu Blue, you think of you too. So it helps 543 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: the franchise. It It just feels right, you know, it 544 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: feels right when an all time great is good with 545 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: his franchise. You know, even us in Teatta, we had 546 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of a beef, you know, going the 547 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: exit wasn't the way you wanted it to be. But 548 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: we've kind of mented the fence because it's just right, 549 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: you know. It just it feels better when you're men 550 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: the fence and your your back home and you're able 551 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: to to have that relationship. Have you been in the building, Okay, Okay, 552 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna tell you 553 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: what happened last time I was in the building. But 554 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stop and no, I haven't been in 555 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: the building. Okay, then what this is my plate? Detroit, Hey, 556 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: reach out to Calvin Johnson and allow him in the building. 557 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Give him McKey giving him a key card, do not 558 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: ask him any questions. And then and then things you know, 559 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: you don't come in like who are you? Who are 560 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: you here for? Like Mr Johnson? Yes, you're parking spots 561 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: ight over there? Yeah, right there. That'd be lovely. That's all. 562 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: That's all we need to do. Things would be better, 563 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: that'd be double when we get to that time. Yeah, 564 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: I can't wait. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. And 565 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: they got better leadership now mm hmm. Yeah. So what 566 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: you think are the receivers now? Because it's now, they've 567 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: got seventeen games, so it's not fair they're gonna break 568 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: your record because they got an extra holding in game, 569 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: but so they technically not breaking your record, the seventeen 570 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: game record versus the sixteen whatever. Who am I? But 571 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: what do you think about him? You know, because it's 572 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: a different breed of receiver coming out these young kids. 573 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: It's slithery. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's different. You know, it's 574 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: not I don't see as many as the big guys 575 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: out there and the teams were going for now, it 576 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: seems like maybe the one has changed for a lot 577 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: of teams, you know, for that like I said, that 578 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: slippery guy, you know, that kind of like a b 579 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: kind of guy, you know, Tonio Brown, you know. But 580 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, I mean the level of play is improved. 581 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: I feel like right when I left for a couple 582 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: of years and maybe I'll just being you know, you know, 583 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: really critical, feel at the level of play wasn't near 584 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, as far as talent wise. But I feel 585 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: like the last couple of years, obviously with my LSU boys, 586 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: who those boys are balling. Obviously, Um, I am biased 587 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: towards that. I love SEC football, but those guys are 588 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: playing the talent level with Judge uh justin Jefferson over 589 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: and with the Vikings. Yeah, man, I mean he got it. 590 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean is he's the best in the league. I 591 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: mean right now in Tyreek, I guess. I mean, DeVante 592 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: is just so scared. I love you know the fact 593 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: that I'll never to see him from a young cat, 594 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: you know, you know, dropping balls and stuff too. Now 595 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: the great you know, just talented receiver using late hands 596 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: and just I love I love to watch him play. Man, 597 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: I've seen him growing. The town level is uh very 598 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: high there. Yeah, He's he's been incredible. I mean, he 599 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: he's one of the best I've played against, to just 600 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: his line of scrimmage, his detail within his routes, to 601 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: fear that he can strike into because one step. That's 602 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: what people didn't understand about covering you and Julio too. 603 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: It didn't matter if you were there, you know what 604 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Like you had to figure it out how 605 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop him from cat even if I'm there, 606 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: we're next to each other, I gotta hope for a 607 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: bad ball because if it's a ball that only you 608 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: can get to, it ain't nothing to do about it. 609 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: So it's like his leg hold him down. I lean 610 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: on him on something. You know, there was one time 611 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I try to botch you all the way out of bounds. 612 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna try to tend our 613 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: path to the out of bound. So even if you 614 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: go out, we're going out of bounds. And what it 615 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: was about that when you playing against a larger corner 616 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: like yourself, it's hard to get out of that. You know, 617 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: when you run, you know, full speed, and you start 618 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: to pin me against the sideline, it's hard. You can't 619 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: just stop and you can't just speed up and go around. 620 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: It's just right the man especial the ball coming, you 621 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: ain't got no space for real, room for area. Yeah, 622 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: I hate when y'all do that. But the vets you 623 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: boy then young boys that used to just let you run, 624 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, thank you. He can jump forty 625 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: inches in the air and he already six twelve, so 626 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: good luck. Oh man. It's fun though, Man, I I 627 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: really enjoyed those matchups. You know, it keeps you up. 628 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: It's something that you gotta prepare mentally, physically, emotionally. You 629 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be a grind what you happen here, 630 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, because now you some tour you know, your 631 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: your your businessman. Twenty one year old Calvin Johnson. That 632 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: was when somebody else cleats at the combine. What advice 633 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: would you have for him? Uh? What advice would I 634 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: have from him? Man? That's tough because there's so many 635 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: different things to a rookie coming into the league. Um. Obviously, 636 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: like we always get told is to find that find 637 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: that veteran that you see. You know, we got the conscious, 638 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: we understand what's right and what's wrong. What's the finding 639 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: guy is doing is right? Because if you don't have 640 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: an idea on how to do right how to take 641 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: care of your body. That's what you need because this 642 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: is your business. You know. If you don't know how 643 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: to take care of this right here, then you won't 644 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: be playing in this league for long. But this is 645 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: this is number one, you know to that point. You know, 646 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys like getting married while 647 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: you're playing ball, because it's it's such a it's such 648 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: a demanding sport. You know. You have to be selfish 649 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: with your time, you know, and you have all these 650 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: buckets that you need to keep feel from the like 651 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: off the field, on the field, you know, and if 652 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: if you're not keeping those things feel you know, it's 653 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: kind of like central when you come to performing. You 654 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: really can't have be at your best if the ball 655 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: you if you all your batteries aren't start stuff. So 656 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: for me, that's just me personally, you know, I feel 657 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: like I had to be selfish with my time and 658 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: and and take care of that body. You know. If 659 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to be the best that I could be 660 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: and devote all my attention to uh the playing ball 661 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: and crushing some of the directors, you did that. Um, 662 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: But I'll give you my perspective on that because a 663 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: lot of times my wife helped me feel those buckets 664 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: and took a lot off my plate so I could 665 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: just focus on that. I didn't have to worry about 666 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: how this bill getting paid, or what happened with the car, 667 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: or or what's happening over here, or do we gotta 668 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: get tickets for such and such, or if the hotel 669 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: is getting situated, on if the clothes getting watched started, 670 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: food getting like I'm getting fed, or or when I'm 671 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: and during the season, they know what time it is, 672 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, she knows what time it is, so she 673 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: knows I'm sitting there watching films. You sit there and 674 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: and and bring me some ice for my knees or 675 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: or rub my back car bring me the massage gun 676 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: or game ready and have it ready when I'm at 677 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: the house. A lot of times they helped fill my 678 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: cup with my foundation. You know, I mean, I wanted 679 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: to have these big grand cre some events, but I 680 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: didn't have a time to like, you sit there and 681 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: buy it or get the organizations, and my wife would. 682 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: My wife would be sitting there bank we got these organizations. 683 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: We negotiated with this place. We're here, the Christmas trees here, 684 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: to Santa Claus is gonna be here at this time, 685 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: Like we got a hundred and fifty families coming, like 686 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: we we got everything on their list, and it was amazing, 687 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: you know, and thank goodness, she had the passion for it. 688 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: So honestly, it really helped, you know. But sometimes there 689 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,479 Speaker 1: are distraction there. There There can be men that get 690 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: distracted by women during your time. You're sitting there during 691 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: the season trying to chase these girls around, you're gonna 692 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: lose sight. You know. Well, if you're like you said, 693 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: if you got a good one like you got, if 694 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: I met my wife now while I was playing, could 695 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: I have done it? Yeah? With kids, that's that's a 696 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: whole difference different. But I used to talk about it, 697 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, does the same things, you know. So if 698 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: I had, but it is just time me for me, 699 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: I didn't. It wasn't Yeah I didn't. I didn't find mine. 700 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: When did you get married? I got married an eighteen 701 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: so it wasn't early. Let's not get credit. But we 702 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: we've been together for for ten years now. Oh yeah yeah, 703 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: so it though, So this guy, I gotta hear from 704 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: you because you know, I hope to one day get 705 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: a jacket, you know that I don't gotta buy and 706 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: that had to be crazy. How was that? Man? So 707 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: I just think about it like this, you know, you 708 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: think about all the guys that you looked up to, 709 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: and then you realize, holy shit, I'm in the same 710 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: room to the guys that they looked up lough that 711 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: made them great, and the guys that they looked up 712 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: to them three generations deeper this thing. And I'm just like, man, 713 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm just a all you know, I'm just like here 714 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: ready to just sitting in the corner, just trying to 715 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: take it all in, man, just just trying to soak 716 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: it all up. And just the greatness in the room. 717 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: This is, this is the NFL right here, These already 718 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: guys that made this thing. He's already got when you 719 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: talking about football, this room right here, son, it was 720 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm an a kid in the candy shop. Um, just 721 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: because I was around all this great talent and hear 722 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: all these great stories that never would have fathom that. 723 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: And you can't even think about, you know, how the 724 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: great crazy stories that you've had in your time. Imagine 725 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: from all the different eras. So um, you know, not 726 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: only that, but you know the second year around, I 727 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: have to worry about speech, you know, and really being 728 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: able to take into experience with the guys that really 729 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: hang out with him. Cause that first year, all you're 730 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: doing is focusing on your speech all getting your family situated. 731 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: But really, the selecting years really when you like get 732 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: to really vibe and have a good time and enjoy 733 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: the the greatness that you're around. Were you surprised? I 734 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: mean you shouldn't have been, because you know, first ballot 735 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, you like the definition of the first 736 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. But was there ever a time 737 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: he was like concerned or you didn't think about it 738 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: at all? You know, everybody got a different approach. I 739 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: tried to put it out of mind. But as you 740 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: as he got closer and closer, you can help. But 741 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, hear about it, and they call you like, hey, 742 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: if you get selected and you be willing to come 743 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: down to the Super Bowl, I'm like, man, are you 744 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: messing with me? Like I don't even like this is 745 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: like a whole month before they even made the decisions, 746 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: something like, damn, why y'all doing that? So I try 747 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: to put it in hindsight because obviously I had a 748 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: lot of focus on your family and the business. So 749 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't hard. But at the end of the day, 750 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: everybody's constantly mentioning it to me, and yeah, of course, 751 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: like in the interview, is like, yeah, I want to 752 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: be a first ballot Hall of Fame. But I didn't 753 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: think that my relationship with the team was going to 754 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: affect that. I did. I truly thought that that would 755 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: probably affect, you know, me going first. So honestly, just 756 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: like saying I was I was good where the chips failed. 757 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: But when when they knocked on my door and my 758 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: wife surprised me because she can't hold water, she held 759 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: it all day, man, And like she said, we got 760 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: a family zoom because we was dooming like once a 761 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: month with the family. It's during COVID and she's like, 762 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: we got a family's oom to night and I'm like, 763 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: all right, she coming to garage. I'm on on in 764 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: the meeting. She's like, come on, come on, I guess 765 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: because they're outside at the door and she's like, come on, 766 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: everybody's on the car. I'm like, all right, I'm coming 767 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: in the crunch while you're rushing me and I get 768 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: to the come inside and she was like, oh, that's mail. 769 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: Mel came over her friends and male ain't number like 770 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: five folk, you know, tiny little things. I looked at 771 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: the door like a bear at my door, you know. 772 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, hell no, that ain't man. Let 773 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: me get my pistol right quick. She was like, don't 774 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: go get your pistol leaven alone. I'm like, what you mean? 775 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: What you mean? Do you see what I'm saying? Right? 776 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And then so you know, finally 777 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: and I like right then I was like, oh sh 778 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: And the rest was history. Yes it is, Yes, it 779 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: is bad. I got to feel cut. It was. It 780 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: was a health of blessing. I definitely prod on spot. 781 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: You overcome with emotions. Right. He's culmination, man, of of 782 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: all your work, everything you've you've done your whole life. 783 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: That's why you're like, man, I want to be good 784 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: with Detroit. You're good with the National Football League, like 785 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: the one of the greatest to ever play. You got 786 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: something that will be here forever. You know, you will 787 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: be remembered forever. And that's why Detroit needs to stay. 788 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: You'll need to get on the train because we went 789 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: on without. He already got the jacket let's let's let's 790 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: reassociate you all with greatness. Let's let's bring it together 791 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: right when you're getting great again. You know, things are 792 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: be beautiful. And man, oh man, do you do any 793 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: like high school coaching or speaking at schools or anything 794 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: now or you just you just totally away from the game, 795 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: you do, know. I love myself and I love getting 796 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: back to the game. I did my camps to my foundation, 797 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: but I got friends at coach football, so they're having 798 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: to come talk to their teams. My old high school coach, 799 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: I just happened to be in Georgia on this past 800 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: weekend and they had their their high school championship game, 801 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: and he had me come talk to the team before 802 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: the game that morning, like seven forty five or something 803 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: like that morning, had breakferences with him and stuff like that, 804 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: and they went on to win the championship. Man, so 805 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: that feel good, you know. So I can see the 806 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: team having success still over there. And uh so I 807 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: love I love getting out and being able to you know, 808 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: whether I prepare stuff would just go off cuff, you know, 809 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: and just you know, have time to spend time with 810 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: the youth. Now this is gonna sound bad and I 811 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: don't mean it in a bad way, but there ain't 812 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: many all time great receivers coming from Georgia Tech. I mean, 813 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: you went to marry Is pretty much like you know, 814 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: but like, why weren't you at l s U are Bama? 815 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: You know, what are we doing? So you know, that's 816 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: funny that everybody asked me that, man, because at the 817 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's between Georgia Georgia Tech. You know, 818 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: I imagine if I want to Georgia mightn't won a 819 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: championship with U g A, with Marga Rick and you 820 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: know Stafford and all that stuff that they are very 821 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: likely I didn't go to Georgia Tech. And then it 822 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,320 Speaker 1: was a fist two reasons. It's a fielding and what 823 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm my business and I had a much better feel 824 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: for Georgia Tech. And I ain't gonna put the person 825 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: on blast at Georgia who like kind of kind of 826 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: dumped me on my visit and I was just that 827 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: left a bad taste in my mouth. So that I 828 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: big part of the reason why I didn't go to Georgia. 829 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, education was in Man. 830 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, if I go to Georgia Tech 831 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: had to when the word on the street of the 832 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: time was we got to you get that degree from Georgia, 833 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: tell you get the papers, you go work anywhere you 834 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: want to work. So that was the big thing in 835 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: my mind, was like, Hey, I go work wherever I 836 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: want to work. I get the engineering Jordians Tech, and 837 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: I'll be all right if football don't work out, I'm 838 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: all right. But you know football took off like wildfire 839 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: and the rest is history. Yeah, did you ever feel 840 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: concerned because of why I'm going to Georgia Tech? Get 841 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: you You're not expecting to be prolific first round pick, 842 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, like you like you were. Did that ever 843 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: get because Georgia I mean especially now. But even then 844 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: they putting them out. They don't put them out. Georgia 845 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: was putting them out. They had a great time. But 846 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: at the time, the only thing they got me over 847 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: the hump with Georgia Tech was that they had NFL experience. 848 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: Chan Gailey used to be the Dallas Cowboys coach. I 849 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: had an NFL coach at my receiver position, which helped 850 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: me tremendously in my growth when I got there. So 851 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: they had they had um he had great assistant coaches 852 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: around him, guys that had experience, if not in the NFL, 853 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: that been in college for a while. So I think 854 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: that's why we know we had success while I was there, 855 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: but we didn't. Everybody thinks I was there when running 856 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: when they're running the triple option, I missed that. But 857 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: that was the only reason why, I mean not the 858 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: only reason, the only reason why the coach there had 859 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: success with that triple options because he had Chen Gaily's guys, 860 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: um that were left over, Marius Thomas, all those guys, 861 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: and they were able to take them to the a 862 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: C Championship early on, but you know, not too much 863 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: after after Do you feel crazy about these numbers in 864 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: the league? Nowadays you can wear one through at any position. 865 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, yeah, that was my number. And in high school, man, 866 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: I didn't I work baseball number, baseball man twenty one. 867 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: You know, I wore for various reasons the prime time 868 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: with the big one, man that they don't have one number, 869 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: and they would have let you were too. They're gonna 870 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: let you go out there in the world that was cold. 871 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: That's funny, man. You got kids, Yeah, I got three boys. 872 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: I got a nine year old. I got a nine 873 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: year old, I got a four year old, and one 874 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: and three quarters. You spread them out now, Yeah, I 875 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: had my first one. I had before I got married, 876 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: so I had him while I was playing. Yeah, he 877 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: was like a third teen and in my last two 878 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: I have my wife. Okay, so what are they gonna play? 879 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: Are you know what I mean? That's always the argument 880 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: that is that, and it's it's it's good. I mean, 881 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously with our experience, but I'm good with 882 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: him playing. Not until it gets the middle school. That's 883 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: how I did. My mom would let me play. So 884 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: I got the middle school. I wanted to play. When 885 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: I was little, I saw like the fairbird Flames you know, 886 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: Arey Berry, that's where you played that with Literal League, 887 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: And I see him with the with the orange flame 888 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: on the blue hell and somebody just want to play 889 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: the book. Cool. My mom wanta let me play, though, 890 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: So when I got the seventh grade, and that's when 891 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: I started, I'll do the same thing with them if 892 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: they show interest. I wouldn't force him. I'm gonna make 893 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: him play baseball, make him play soccer, go run and 894 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: build some motor skills, you know whatever. But I ain't 895 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: can make you play football, and she just want to play, right, 896 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing my son. I'm not gonna make 897 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: it like I'm gonna let him play flag and stuff 898 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: while young, just to know the game and know the 899 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: rules and you know what you want to do in it. 900 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: But running track soccer? Did you ever run track? Yeah? 901 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: I ran? I ran, try ran football one four about four. 902 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: I hated that day for about four right a man. 903 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I was always last leg. But then baseball took over 904 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: for track. I got drafted out of high school for baseball. 905 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: But baseball is my first love. And then once I 906 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: started playing football in high school, started getting good at it, 907 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 1: Like it's just trump baseball. Baseball got born. Yeah, I 908 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: heard you got drafted by the Dodgers. You ain't ever think, man, 909 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: I might want to, you know what I mean, take 910 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: less hits and just get a few hits. Hindsight is always, 911 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I thought about it, and we had 912 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: guys that were going to the farm league from our 913 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: school already, you know, and how to say that situation 914 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: but will be mine. But you know, guy's getting caught 915 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: up in the farm league and stuff like that, and 916 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: I want to always want to go to college. I 917 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 1: never wanted because my sister, she wanted to Cark Atlanta, 918 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: and my mom will send me up there and it 919 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: was only thirty minutes from the house. And she just 920 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: sent me up there on the weekends and get touted 921 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: by my sister. I know, my sister hated it. But 922 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: after we were done, you know, I got to hang 923 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: out on college Captus. You know. So I was in 924 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: the middle of Atlanta Day Atlanta University Center, and you know, 925 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't forego this right right right. 926 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: That's what I tried to explain to people. People are like, man, 927 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like people that never been 928 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: to college, you know, and and and coming from my 929 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: family and first that technically first generation you know, me 930 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: and my brother, but you learned so much going to college. 931 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Like that experience, that independence, that that that growth. Everybody 932 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: else can get it. You can get it working and 933 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: getting an apartment and learning that way, but I feel 934 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: like it exponentially like speeds up your growth. I mean, 935 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: you go from one year being at home with with 936 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: with being sheltered to just being out on your own 937 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: and be having the ability to do whatever you want 938 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: to do. You go do the party right, and you 939 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: got to decide. You're like, hey, do I get home 940 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: in time to write this paper or what? You know? 941 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: That's cool, man, Well, I really appreciate you joining me. 942 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this for a long time. 943 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: And if you ever need me to come for a 944 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: foundation event, donate something, show up for a camp, I'm 945 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: here saying likewise, brother, I appreciate you. Man. It's great 946 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: to talk to you. I like I said, I'm happy 947 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: to see you doing well. I'm too, man, you're looking 948 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: sharp out there, but keep you. I appreciate that. Brother. 949 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: There's nothing but love and respect. And I'm gonna sitting 950 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: that jersey because I've never got a side properly. So 951 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 1: I said that to you. Sounds good. Sounds good, baby, 952 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: you too. The volume