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Speaker 3: What up those Eke?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good? So for of those you don't know,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have just a casual conversations tell people about

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Speaker 4: Uh so the basis and like the premise of the organization.

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Speaker 1: just go buy this. This came from my hands. Here

435
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: go to make sure y'all shut out. Just siding on

436
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: to the brothers. Y'all make sure y'all have the woman

437
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: and now recorded. Now make sure show from the groceries.

438
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 3: You're the whole process, because I need to know if

439
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: you really made the dreasure. I don't.

440
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: I don't trust you. I don't trust y'all need to

441
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: know because I do the whole process. Here go look

442
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,159
Speaker 1: like before. Here it is in the oven. Here it

443
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: is take it out because some of these women out

444
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: there playing like they cooking and really you just going

445
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: around the corner halfing somebody cater ready to have whatever.

446
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: So I'm all about the process. I'm all about the receipts,

447
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: all about the process. Let me see if you did it,

448
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 1: and I respect people that do that.

449
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 3: I love it.

450
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: Talk your shit, brag, say it, do it and again

451
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: transparency on. If you invest in time, money, resource, then

452
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 1: to me, this is the product that you get and

453
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: there should I have old question about what it is

454
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: that I'm doing with the funds, what I'm not doing,

455
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: how I'm doing, where my passion is and desire and

456
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: so I love that about you and I'm glad we

457
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: were able to, you know, really kind of nail that

458
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 1: down because it is absolutely a cop out. Why would

459
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: I want people to know that you're doing something good? Well,

460
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: the answer is you're not or you're not doing it enough,

461
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: and you don't want to be held accountable because one

462
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: thing's that Zeke. By you putting yourself out there, people

463
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: can expect you to continue doing it and then puts

464
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 1: pressure on you as well, and they don't want their accountability.

465
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: They just want to tap in every now and then

466
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: around Christmas and then say I give bikes every year

467
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: to Christmas. Okay, let's see it every year, though, Let's

468
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: see the consistency of every year. And that's the pressure

469
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: that people don't want to talk about. I want to

470
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: ask you about your programs because I want to make

471
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: sure that it's not going on people's heads when you say,

472
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,120
Speaker 1: you know eighteen programs, what is a program?

473
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: You know?

474
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 3: What does that mean? And just give us a couple

475
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 3: of examples, you know of program work. What does that mean?

476
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 4: So what use We really dissect all the issues that

477
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: go on in our communities and we build organic programs

478
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: around them, meaning that we started from scratch with all

479
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: of our programs and we really kind of shape the

480
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 4: programs to kind of actually be something that is you know,

481
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 4: obtainable to the community, the community understands, and also something

482
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 4: that is a direct reflection of how can we find

483
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 4: progress in these areas.

484
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: So anything from mental health, you know, we got mental.

485
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 4: Health programs, we have political education programs, UH, conflict resolution programs.

486
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: We have of course the our mentoring programs. We are

487
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: food programs. We've been able to independently feed over or

488
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: around a half a million people, UH in the city

489
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 4: of Detroit. You know, we have our our safety programs

490
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: are UH programs to where you know, we focus in

491
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 4: we got the guys talking about safety. We got health

492
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: and wellness, you know, well round of programs in regards

493
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 4: to you know, every day. That's how we stay working

494
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 4: every single day. So with seventeen programs, we'll probably take

495
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 4: about six or seven programs and run it this quarter.

496
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: So the next next quarter, okay, might not just say,

497
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: for like our active time, we really out in the community.

498
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: Our hood to hood programs was really our spring and

499
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: summer programs. Of course we probably won't run those as

500
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: much in the winner in the fall, but we take

501
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 4: the other programs. May we focus a bit more on

502
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 4: mental health during those times or political education during those times.

503
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: So every aspect.

504
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: Of community we really really focus in on, and we

505
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 4: put a lot of time and energy and we create

506
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 4: programs around it so that we can have a level

507
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: of effectiveness with those programs and get more people involved

508
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: and feel like that, you know, these programs are something

509
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 4: that fit them, is going to benefit them.

510
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: How do you keep people from being discouraged from because

511
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: there's always going to be work to do, you know,

512
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be work to do as long as

513
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: we are you know, here and living, there's always going

514
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,719
Speaker 1: to be a problem to solve. And I know, you know,

515
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: in my political education program, you know, I'm always trying

516
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 1: to keep people very grounded and understanding that, because that's

517
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: how I see a lot of people get out the game.

518
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: You know, they ain't making a difference. What's the point

519
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: We're not doing enough? Word? Were behind And I always

520
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: let people know that in this work that we do

521
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: that the seed for the shade tree that you're planting,

522
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: you may not ever have a chance to sit under

523
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: that shade tree. So you need people to have an

524
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: understanding of that that it is literally a drop in

525
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: a bucket. You tell people that, you know, because it is,

526
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: you know, we have to encourage ourselves.

527
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 3: How to encourage people.

528
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: With saying, you know, dang, we're doing this year round,

529
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: you know, but I'm still seeing people killed or murdered.

530
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 3: I'm still seeing this problem. Are their problem? How do you?

531
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Speaker 3: How do you handle that?

532
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 2: Well?

533
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 4: Really, we do our through our data impact reports, so

534
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: that that's something that we do every single year quarterly.

535
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: We have those things too as well.

536
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: It's very important that we show impact and every single

537
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 4: program that we do or what's the point of doing it,

538
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: you know, and then also making sure that we collect

539
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 4: a certain level of data to make sure that we able.

540
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: To show our effectiveness with our program.

541
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: And just like you said, even take for instance, like

542
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: political education, I wasn't very vocal in the president run

543
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 4: for one main reason is because I know here in

544
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: Detroit we have a huge political year next year, and

545
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 4: I felt like, you know, I didn't want to interfere

546
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: with something that wasn't going to be as important as

547
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: this local election next year. So if I were to

548
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 4: put my all into this low to the national election,

549
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 4: which I really didn't believe in, and either situation, and

550
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 4: I was vocal and I was speaking, and then you know,

551
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 4: people seeing all what this happened or that happened, and

552
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: then you know, I may you know, lose ground when

553
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 4: it comes to my voice moving forward. And it's very

554
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: very important local election that we have here in the

555
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 4: City of Detroit next year. So it's just about making

556
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 4: sure that we put ourselves in a position to be

557
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: as effective as possible and then always make sure that

558
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 4: we once again go back to the transparency, show our wins,

559
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

560
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: These are this is what happens.

561
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 4: So even like right now, we participate in the program

562
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: here in the City of detraders called CBI program and

563
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 4: it's Crime Intervention program, uh, you know, just and they

564
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: document everything, so all the shootings fatal, non fatal and

565
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 4: things of that nature. And now we can see you know,

566
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: the area that we work in the decrease in crime

567
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: and violence and so on and so on. You have

568
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 4: to be able to show that data. You got to

569
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: be able to show the effectiveness and once again impact

570
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. It is very important for

571
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: us on our end, but we just got to make

572
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 4: sure that we do our best and then just continue working.

573
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 4: You know, I always tell people this type of work

574
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 4: is revolving door work. So you know, you can't be

575
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 4: worried about you know who not who don't believe, but who.

576
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: Don't want to roll.

577
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 4: Man, you get your solid people, your solid team, and

578
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: you as a leader as people. That's in leadership. You know,

579
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 4: we gotta press. You know, people around us only gonna

580
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 4: press as hard as we press. It's only when we

581
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: start to lack, and only when we start to self

582
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: doubt is when others do the same thing. But if

583
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 4: we continue to keep a you know, a level head

584
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: and regardless. Always one of my biggest things I always

585
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: tell my team and people around me, never get too

586
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: high and never get too low on nothing that we do.

587
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. We have great success stories

588
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: and great wins.

589
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: We're not gonna sit and hang on the top of

590
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 4: that tree like, oh this is the end all be all,

591
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: And then there's times where everything is not so good.

592
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: And we're not gonna ain't on that tree neither and

593
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: say well this is the end.

594
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: All keep a level ahead and be realistic about you know, life,

595
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 4: and you know the things that we're doing it And

596
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: just like you said, some things we may not ever see,

597
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: you know, the fruits of our labor. But I believe

598
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 4: that we living in a town right now that we

599
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: about to see a lot in this next ten to

600
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: twenty years. So like now is a prime time to

601
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: be able to put place your stuff in the position

602
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: around organizations and people of like minds and get things

603
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: done because this is an era to where everything is

604
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: coming to a shift.

605
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: We already see it now, you know. I know I

606
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: don't have to.

607
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: Preach it acquir with you, but you know, we seeing

608
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: the shift in politics. We see in the shifting mindset

609
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: in the streets and in the community. You know, more

610
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: people have an understanding of you know, rights, wrong things

611
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: that we're supposed to do, and all the rest of

612
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: this stuff. It's gonna take a little time to kind

613
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: of shift into place, but we will see a lot

614
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: of things change over these next couple of decades. And

615
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: you know, the work that we do in the positions

616
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 4: that we put ourselves in is really going to define

617
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: how that looks on our end.

618
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 2: You know when those times when that time comes.

619
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I like how you frame that.

620
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: I want to double back on that to make sure

621
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I add a little bit of clarity when I say

622
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: not enjoy the shade tree. Now those are for people

623
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: who think the problem is just gonna totally go away.

624
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: That we want to wake up and it's not going

625
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: to be any more homelessness or any more you know

626
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: that that Uh, that is what I mean by that.

627
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: But you absolutely hit it on there when you said impact.

628
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Our goal is to make impact, taking impact. Because as

629
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: long as you're making an impact, if I just keep

630
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: making an impact, I used to be an insurance agent

631
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: and an adjuster. And if I just keep dinging at

632
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: the car, ding at the carding at the car, at

633
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: some point it's going to total out ding by ding.

634
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: It may not be a total big crash that totals

635
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: it out and no more car, no more. But making

636
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: the impact, and that's what we have to say. Like

637
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: you said, consistent, keep chipping at it, chipping at chipping

638
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: at it. But you I love you said, and holding

639
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: yourself accountable to the reports because we should be able

640
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: to point to something to show where you've made an impact,

641
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: and an impact will encourage people. And that's again another

642
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: criticism that I have for a lot of folks, including

643
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: people that I work with in the documentary Civil on

644
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Netflix with Attorney Crump.

645
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: I've always talked atturning Crump.

646
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: Okay, people keep seeing the problem. Why are y'all not

647
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: talking about because if I'm outside looking in, I'm saying,

648
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: dang it just keep being a problem. Y'all keep winning. Okay,

649
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: y'all win the civil side, but what about the criminal size?

650
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 1: What about the laws? What laws are changing? And so

651
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: I will criticize him and others Zeke and say, why

652
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Speaker 1: are you not talking about the over one hundred cities,

653
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Speaker 1: because again we're talking about local politics. To your point,

654
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to pick back up on what you said,

655
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Speaker 1: over one hundred cities have implemented some level of police reform,

656
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Speaker 1: and for some reason, they love talking about the problem.

657
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: Thinking there's been this mindset with the old school organizing way, Zke,

658
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Speaker 1: of if we just keep talking about the problem, it's

659
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Speaker 1: going to motivate people. And what has happened is is

660
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: made people say, y'all not doing nothing. I'm not interested.

661
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: It's the same problem. It's made people be numb and

662
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: spell right. It does just the opposite. Instead of saying, no, guys,

663
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: we actually through Treybond Martin to now through all what

664
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Speaker 1: you have seen, there's actually been impact on.

665
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Speaker 3: The law side.

666
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Colorado actually did in qualified immunity. There were no choke

667
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Speaker 1: holds in the city of Houston. They do now have

668
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Speaker 1: a database the whole police officers accountable.

669
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Speaker 3: There are citizen boards now that have the right to fire.

670
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Speaker 1: Things that you don't hear about on the federal level,

671
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Speaker 1: which is why I can't stand a federal level because

672
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Speaker 1: they're might get caught up on that, and we don't

673
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Speaker 1: talk about the things on the local level. How is

674
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Speaker 1: Detroit supposed to know that Colorado made an impact now?

675
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Speaker 1: Somebody may say, well, that doesn't matter to me, Actually

676
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Speaker 1: does because if you're able to look at these other

677
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Speaker 1: states and what they've been able to do, those are

678
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Speaker 1: now proposals now information that you can bring to your

679
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: local state and and not have to reinvent the will.

680
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Speaker 3: So you are the kind of thing that frustrates me.

681
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Speaker 1: It's not that there hasn't been impact, it's just people

682
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Speaker 1: don't talk about it, they don't don't know how to

683
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: market it, they don't don't know how to brand it,

684
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: and still they don't do a lot of the work.

685
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: This is go get real about that. I'm very I'm

686
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: with you on that, but I know that people are

687
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Speaker 1: doing something. And so if you're not talking about this,

688
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: if you're not showing this, you're not connecting the dots,

689
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: particularly in local politics, they're missing it and people are

690
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: feeling discouraged. And so that you that you get that,

691
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Speaker 1: you understand impact and hold yourself accountable to to those

692
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Speaker 1: and I hope you take credit for that saying Okay,

693
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Speaker 1: this crime went down by one percent Newer Detroit has

694
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Speaker 1: something to do with that, like.

695
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Speaker 2: A that's right.

696
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Speaker 4: And then the best thing about us, the absolute best

697
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 4: thing about us is, you know, we really don't even

698
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Speaker 4: have to say a lot of that stuff now, like

699
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Speaker 4: the people know being able to work, so you know,

700
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Speaker 4: so hard, it's so consistent over these past ten years.

701
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Speaker 4: It's like people have put up a post about crime

702
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Speaker 4: violence in the city and you will see so many people, Yeah,

703
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Speaker 4: new Edity Tree, new Aity Tree, new Edity Tree, And

704
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Speaker 4: I think that speaks a lot to the work. I've

705
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Speaker 4: always been like that type of leader, you know what

706
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Speaker 4: I mean. I want to be the type of person

707
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Speaker 4: who you see like you don't have to hear me

708
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Speaker 4: speak about a bunch of I don't have to talk

709
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Speaker 4: like you see it, you know what I mean, You

710
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 4: able to see it with your own two eyes and then.

711
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Speaker 3: You let people talk.

712
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Speaker 1: But I still want you to those this is just

713
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Speaker 1: the communications and me I still what you do. But

714
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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure for those who are

715
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Speaker 1: listening and want to learn how to do this work.

716
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be dependent upon others communicating your

717
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Speaker 1: message as you.

718
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Speaker 2: Know, that's that's work. Yeah, that's that's yeah.

719
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Speaker 4: I'm only saying that just yeah, say like, it's always

720
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Speaker 4: good when people have an understanding of what you're doing

721
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Speaker 4: because ultimately, you know, everything that we do we do.

722
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Speaker 2: For the people.

723
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Speaker 4: So if the people don't have to understanding, you know,

724
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Speaker 4: we can we can at our stelf on the back

725
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Speaker 4: of all that we want to you know, and a

726
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: lot of people do. It'd be a lot of people.

727
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's a lot of self pats on the back.

728
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: But it's just like when people come in and give

729
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: you that pat on the back you know, that's the

730
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Speaker 4: real you know, the real impact once again, because you understand, like, okay,

731
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Speaker 4: people have an understanding of the impact that we do

732
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Speaker 4: have and the changes that we are able to make.

733
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Speaker 4: So it's very important that people, you know, when we

734
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Speaker 4: talk about leadership and work, that people aren't speak speaking

735
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Speaker 4: on speaking.

736
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Speaker 2: On sure that's what you do.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you know I got you,

738
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Speaker 1: you know, like, oh no, because a lot of people

739
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Speaker 1: don't connect the dots, you know. I made the other

740
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Speaker 1: day that I literally had to go to the whiteboard

741
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Speaker 1: to show the dots.

742
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Speaker 3: How it connects because a lot of people may just

743
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Speaker 3: not know.

744
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Speaker 1: But people speaking for you, I think is your greatest

745
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Speaker 1: you know, your greatest accomplishment.

746
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Speaker 3: That's how I got turned on to you.

747
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Speaker 1: I just like, I just I'm not just gonna randomly know,

748
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Speaker 1: you know, Glenn Tattoo Man Page like you need to

749
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Speaker 1: know these people.

750
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Speaker 3: This is literally like the new Black Panthers. And that

751
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: turned me on to you.

752
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known. I just simply would not have known.

753
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Speaker 1: And I'm myself pretty familiar with Michigan, you know, having

754
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Speaker 1: to work in Michigan and working on campaigns. But I

755
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: just didn't know. So you know, two of those things

756
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: can be done. But I love how you talk about

757
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: that impact report. That's critically important. One last thing I

758
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: want to talk about before we get at it, because

759
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned you know, losing ground and making sure that

760
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Speaker 1: you're focused on local. I love that that is so

761
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: so so important because that is where you make the

762
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Speaker 1: biggest impact. And I love what you said, you know,

763
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Speaker 1: if you got so caught up on the federal it

764
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Speaker 1: could affect you know, how you move with the local

765
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Speaker 1: and that's critically important. So I want to talk a

766
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: little bit about that on there's only like so much

767
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: I guess as an organization you can get involved with

768
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Speaker 1: you know, with politics. So how how do you consider

769
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: how does the newer Detroit you know, getting involved in politics.

770
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Speaker 1: What's the role that you play, and what do you

771
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Speaker 1: plan on doing, you know, next year doing your local elections.

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Speaker 4: Uh So we big once again political education, make sure

773
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: that we able to educate people. We're really gonna do

774
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Speaker 4: a very strenuous vetting process and being able to get

775
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 4: people who are running in do a lot of fact

776
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: checking for people too as well. And just also you know,

777
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 4: people know our word is bonds, So you know, go

778
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: back to the work that we've been able to put in.

779
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: You know, we're name that people trust, you know what

780
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: I mean. Like if if the people had they way,

781
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 4: I would run for mayor, you know what I mean.

782
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: So but you know, because I won't say never.

783
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: But it's just like as a black man in America,

784
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Speaker 4: I feel like I can be way more effective in

785
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: the sector that I'm in right now, and I can

786
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: work closely with those who are in office. But to

787
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 4: just have a seed, you know, and and and kind

788
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 4: of do that. I feel like this is my strong

789
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 4: point at right now. And that's you know, just talking

790
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: right now. I don't know what ten to fifteen.

791
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: Years might have down the line for me, but.

792
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: As of right now, you know, I would rather work

793
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 4: closely with those who are running, but to be able

794
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 4: to have influence in the election, Like you'll see this

795
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: next local election in Detroit. Stay real close to this

796
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 4: one because this is going to be a really defining election.

797
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: Like I feel like the whole country need to be

798
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 4: watching this election in Detroit because we about to do

799
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 4: a lot of things that's untraditional. And then also it's

800
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: about to be a huge shift in Detroit, like the

801
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 4: mayor who've been in office for so long he's not

802
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 4: running again, which is about to open up the doors

803
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: for a lot of newer people that's going to be

804
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: able to come in from from the mayor's spot, from

805
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 4: city council, from all of from state reps. So it's

806
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 4: going to be a lot of new faces in.

807
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just.

808
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Speaker 4: Getting my team to be prepared because nothing comes through

809
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: without us having some sort of solidification in this process.

810
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Speaker 2: We earned that as an organization, and.

811
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Speaker 4: We are going to make sure that we hold people

812
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Speaker 4: accountable the right way and show people how to hold

813
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Speaker 4: politicians accountable and the right way.

814
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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of.

815
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Speaker 1: People don't know, like they literally in my political education training,

816
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: like they literally don't know how to hold you know,

817
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Speaker 1: we say, all hold the account but how you know,

818
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Speaker 1: what does it look like?

819
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Speaker 4: Now?

820
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Speaker 1: You as an organization, I would assume I'm assuming you're

821
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Speaker 1: a non provate organization, are you not? So you're limited

822
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: in how you can And I love that you're showing

823
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: that there's a way to get involved without necessarily endorsing

824
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: a candidate person maybe or saying you need to have

825
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: this candidate, you know, pick this one over the other one.

826
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: What you're saying is we're going to give you the information,

827
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Speaker 1: put it on, put it on the floor, and then

828
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Speaker 1: and you guys decide like what we're And I loved

829
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Speaker 1: zi because again here's another cop out that a lot

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Speaker 1: of nonprofits use. Well, you know, I can't get involved,

831
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Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, Oh actually you can. There's a lot

832
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Speaker 1: that you can do without trying to tell people what

833
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Speaker 1: to do, but give them the information.

834
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Speaker 3: And that's the work that people don't like.

835
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Speaker 1: Zeke and I love you know that you're that you're

836
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Speaker 1: doing that, you're taking on some civic you know, responsibilitcause

837
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Speaker 1: to me, that's the most important thing that you can do.

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Speaker 4: It is and also were actually in the process of

839
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Speaker 4: working on our C four So a lot of organizations

840
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Speaker 4: should understand, uh that you know, you can't get in politics.

841
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 4: Different ways to go around doing it, but you definitely

842
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: have to look into that fiber one C four two

843
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Speaker 4: as well, so you know, it's critically important.

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Speaker 1: Can I put a pin on that because I talk

845
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Speaker 1: about that all the time and just you know, listening again,

846
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Speaker 1: I've done many podcasts on the difference between Bible one

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Speaker 1: C three and five one C four and FIBA one

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Speaker 1: C four Just for those of listening, it does allow

849
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Speaker 1: you to endorse candidates, uh to get behind certain issues.

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Speaker 1: So if you're saying there's an issue, I'm just Amendment four,

851
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Speaker 1: that's saying, you know, moving forward, we want to be

852
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Speaker 1: able to cut tax on something. A five to one

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Speaker 1: C four will allow you to actually advocate for those issues.

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Speaker 1: And those two differences are guys, just because you know,

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Speaker 1: always want to make sure people know. One is Bible

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Speaker 1: one C.

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Speaker 3: Four.

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Speaker 1: You have to raise money, got really hustle and it's

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Speaker 1: not a tax right off. So that's when you get

860
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Speaker 1: into the really the strength of you know, being able

861
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: to say, getting the money behind pushing a lot of

862
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: these issues because those people don't understand. So like your donations,

863
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: all of that matter. Because if you want to get

864
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Speaker 1: behind an issue, and let's say you want to push

865
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Speaker 1: an amendment or something going on with housing, it costs money, guys.

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Speaker 1: It costs money for people to knock on doors. It

867
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Speaker 1: costs money for digital campaigns, it costs money for advertising,

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Speaker 1: it costs money for brochures, It costs money that if

869
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: even if you got volunteers, people need donuts, pizza, food, gas,

870
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: Like there's a big confusion or doing this work actually costs,

871
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: you know, so your donations really really matter. So I'm

872
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: glad to hear that you guys are getting into the

873
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: five one c fourth side of things, but it is

874
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: very challenging. So that tells me you have a very

875
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: strong organization if you feel you can, you know, also

876
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: have a Bible one C four you know, some of

877
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: that action going yeah.

878
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we come up for everything. Everything is strategy

879
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: for us, you know, and leadership. I'm I'm a chess player,

880
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 4: you know, so everything you know, got to make sense

881
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: and then you know, everything has to be able to

882
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: be in line with what.

883
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: We're looking at. So I'm a big believer.

884
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: We we just closed out a decade, so I'm working

885
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 4: on the next decade, the next ten years. We mapping

886
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 4: out what does that look like and then how can

887
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: we put ourselves in a position of power and make

888
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: sure that we able to get power back to the

889
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: people essentially, And in Detroit is a very special place

890
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: right now. A lot of people, you know, got their

891
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 4: eyes on the city for a lot of different reasons.

892
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: But I feel like when when we do what we

893
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 2: do here in.

894
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: This city, it's going to open up a lot of

895
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: doors for people to really understand, like, Okay, we can

896
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: have a certain level of power in politics and use

897
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: it to our benefit because I'm just so sick and

898
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: tired of the days where what that got to do

899
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 4: with me? Where you know, my vote don't count and

900
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: all of this stuff. It's only that because we play

901
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: in the system that's already been built, you know, you

902
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: know for people to play in. Like for us, it's

903
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: like we recreate this system and we make it our own,

904
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: and we put ourselves in a position to have power.

905
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 4: Because if black people didn't see nothing else from this election,

906
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 4: you should see that the highest office you know in

907
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: the land, you know, continue to pander to pander to

908
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 4: our people. Because we have power, we just have to

909
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: be able to utilize it and organize it in the

910
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: right way.

911
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 2: And it has to start from a local level. First,

912
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: you get your local power, you power up.

913
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: Okay, if we got local power, Handy Tree, I'm about

914
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 4: to talk too much.

915
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: After in Chicago, this is the way we do it.

916
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 2: Get your local power.

917
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: There, we get all these different locations in different cities

918
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 4: around the country to power up locally. Then how we

919
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: talk in national power. But it has to start locally.

920
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: It got it.

921
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: It always gotta start it. But it even I even

922
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: push to say that stars and ends, there's always going

923
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: to be especially when you talk about this now the

924
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: state's rights that they're doing. People are concerned on what

925
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: is going on outside their door.

926
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: Period. This ideal that we all gotta.

927
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: Be it just doesn't work that way, And I want

928
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: people to understand it stars local and ends like it's

929
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: always going to be local. You have to Now if

930
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: you can take a blueprint like you mentioned and do

931
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: the same thing in Chicago, that's great, But Chicago gonna

932
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: be worried about Chicago.

933
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: This federal we all gonna be.

934
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: No.

935
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: People in Atlanta want to live a certain way. Detroit

936
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: want to live. That's why you live in Detroit. That's

937
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: why you live in Atlanta. That's why you live in Chicago.

938
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: So it is always local. It is always about how

939
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: do I get this? If I got New Air Detroit,

940
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: how do I get this this organization taken care of?

941
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: How do I make sure that they have the grants?

942
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: How do we make sure we got the building, how

943
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: do we make sure we got access, how do we

944
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: make sure we got zoning and and and all of that.

945
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: That is your mayor and your city mission is guys, period,

946
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: it is. It's no more than if you want to

947
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: change what's going on. If you say, because I trained

948
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: national everywhere. But when somebody saying crime, I need crime

949
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: to be down.

950
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:09,959
Speaker 2: They're not talking.

951
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: If you live in Chicago, you're not talking about Detroit.

952
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: You're talking about Chicago. If you say we got a

953
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: housing problem and you live in California, you're talking about California,

954
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: you're not talking about Detroit. So it's always local. It's

955
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: not because people want to live according to what's happening

956
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: in their front door. So when people say policies doesn't

957
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: affect me, I'm putting up another video about that this week.

958
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 3: It affects you on every level.

959
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: If you got a property appraise or that was elected,

960
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: that's going to determine how much the property is. If

961
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: you got a job, guess what your taxes are going

962
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: to pay for your federal but your state. If you

963
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: got a kid in school, your state board, your school

964
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: board is determining everything from how they get punished, from

965
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: suspension pipeline to school to prison pipeline, to the books

966
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: that they have or don't have. All of that there's

967
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: no if you run a business. I did a great

968
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: episode as we said, we can just put all our

969
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: money together and do it on our own. We don't

970
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: need these politicians. You actually do every single thing that

971
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: you do, from opening up the building to my brother

972
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: killer Mike t I. They just opened up bank here Seafood.

973
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: They not want bank here Seafood on that side of town.

974
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: But Mike got a relationship him and Tip with the

975
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: former mayor and the new mayor and all of the commissions.

976
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: That's how they got that done, not just some matter

977
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: of we got the money to do it. You need

978
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: relationships with these people.

979
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: They need to know.

980
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: They need to know that not only do they have

981
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: to hear from you, but they know they need to

982
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: know their threat. You are a threat if you, like

983
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: you said, he got to come through new Air of Detroit.

984
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: Ain't no such thing as no mayor that can't work

985
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: with that, don't want to work with us because a muscle.

986
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: And that's what we need people to understand. We have

987
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: the power, but knowing how to organize it locally and

988
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: statewide is the answer and the only answer. I want

989
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: people to stop being so focused on federal because Congress.

990
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: People are only going to do with your state and

991
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: your local do so get it local, run it local,

992
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: open up your business local, change your schools local, do

993
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: all of that local, and you're gonna find yourself living

994
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: the type of life you want to live.

995
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right, period. No, that's facts, one hundred

996
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: and ten percent of facts. So I'm with you. I

997
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 4: couldn't agree more. I mean, that's something that we really

998
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 4: focus in on, uh, with our political with our political

999
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 4: education courses too, you know, just making sure that people

1000
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 4: even understand, like all of the different positions we take,

1001
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 4: we were moved to people. These are the positions, These

1002
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: are what positions are accountable for. These are how all

1003
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: these positions directly affect you, Like, we gotta do that.

1004
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: I mean the problem is that the voter dying campaigns,

1005
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 4: all that, all the bs, you know, all of the

1006
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: voter dot why you know, you still haven't explained to

1007
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: me why I'm gonna die if I don't go vote

1008
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: or you know, it's just too too too much cliche

1009
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 4: clicheness going on, and particularly in politics, and then people

1010
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: get mad at people when they don't understand or don't

1011
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 4: want to get out and vote or even why the numbers.

1012
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: You know, the the interview that you did when you

1013
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 4: talked about the black voted, so many people were saying like, oh, well,

1014
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: you know, the most people, most of the black people

1015
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: who did vote voting for Kamala, And what was over

1016
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 4: people ahead is the number of black people.

1017
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: That did not get out and vote. You know, the

1018
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: people the people that you.

1019
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: Know wasn't even involved in the process from the start,

1020
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, which is a huge percent.

1021
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 4: So you know, people have to understand, like when it

1022
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 4: comes to politics, you know, it's it's bigger than just

1023
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: you know, the smoke screen that that people put out.

1024
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 4: You have to be able to have a certain level

1025
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: of engagement and understanding.

1026
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: Of this, of the of the process.

1027
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 3: And people and.

1028
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: What they should just know. You know, I'm always pushing

1029
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: back on people to say they should just know. It's

1030
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: basic cibits. What do you talk to people don't know,

1031
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: like they literally don't know. When I did the just

1032
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: I'll just say this as an example, I thought it

1033
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: was irresponsible to say when Elon Musk said at defund

1034
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: ACLU and AOC said, oh, ACLU, we don't get they

1035
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: don't get money from the taxpayers. ACLU said, we don't

1036
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: get money from taxpayers. Well, on the surface, technically you don't.

1037
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: A taxpayer is not literally writing a check, you know,

1038
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: literally saying we're funding ACLU. But when you break down

1039
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: how everything works from government grants that you get, which

1040
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: is funded by the government.

1041
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 3: Who funds the government, the tax payer.

1042
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: When you talk about major donors, they can write a

1043
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: check to you ze, they can write that off. What

1044
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: do they do they turn that into the irs. That's

1045
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: money that they're not paying. Well, somebody got to subsidize

1046
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: the money that they're not paying. And who was that

1047
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: the taxpayers. It's like if you're if I if my daughter,

1048
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: if I don't give her a hundred thousand dollars check

1049
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: for some reason, you don't think I spend one hundred

1050
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: thousand on you. I had to pay the rent, I

1051
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: still had to put food, I still had, So she

1052
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: would say, well, you don't, you don't fund me, you

1053
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: don't give me a hundred thousand. Somebody said you didn't,

1054
00:49:58,480 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: You didn't give it to me. No, I didn't give

1055
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: it you at once, But somebody had to make up

1056
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: the difference. Those bills still had to get paid. So

1057
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: when we put messages out there like I don't like

1058
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: that they did that, Zeke, And I'll tell you why.

1059
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: I don't wanna go too much on a soup box

1060
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: about it. But when they put messages out there and

1061
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: say we don't get anything from the taxpayer, when you

1062
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: know individuals can write off the donations, when you know

1063
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: donors can write to date, when you know that grants

1064
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: can ratherdate. So when Elon must is saying defund a CLU,

1065
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: what he's saying essentially is defund nonprofits. And what that

1066
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: means is they can I don't know what they gonna

1067
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: come up with, but they may say no more tax

1068
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: write offs. They may say no more grants. And who

1069
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: does that affect. That's gonna affect a new air of

1070
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: Detroit fast faster than it will affect the ACLU, because

1071
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: a CLU has major donors doors small nonprofits were.

1072
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: Just trying to get in.

1073
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: How we live it, one thousand dollars here or there

1074
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: in con donations. When you say we're gonna feed this

1075
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: is very important guys. People understand this. You say we're

1076
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: gonna get turkeys away, We're gonna feed people. You don't

1077
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: go to Kroger and say, hey, give us turkeys, and

1078
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: they just give it to you just because in con

1079
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: donation they write that off. That's right, you ten thousand

1080
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: dollars worth of turkeys. Somebody got to pay for that ze,

1081
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: so they write it off as a tax write off.

1082
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: So if they're saying, de fun nonprofits, let's take us here,

1083
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: you out of it, that means it's gonna make it

1084
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: harder for Kroger to give me ten thousand turkeys. That

1085
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: means it's gonna make it harder for people to want

1086
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: to drop off coats that they can write off. This

1087
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: is critically important that we pay. This is where the

1088
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: federal does matter that we are paying attention to what

1089
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: is happening, because if our nonprofits get shut down, if

1090
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: nonprofits have to start paying taxes tomorrow, it will absolutely

1091
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: affect all eighteen of those programs.

1092
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: It's right, boos, No fact tanks one hundred and ten percent.

1093
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 4: So you know those things are extremely important, and you know,

1094
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 4: we just got to continue to keep doing you know

1095
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 4: what we do. I will say one of the good

1096
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: things about an organization like ours, you know, we just

1097
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: started getting into this lane of even nonprofits. Over the

1098
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 4: past two years, we've been working fourteen So when I

1099
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 4: say that we've independently been able to feed you know,

1100
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 4: half half a million people, it's it's been off the muscle.

1101
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 4: It's been off you know, the barter situations in our community.

1102
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 4: It's been off of us being able to hustle and

1103
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: get it. You know, how we how we you know,

1104
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 4: are able to get out here and hustle and get it.

1105
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 4: And then you know, for us, you have to be

1106
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 4: able to put yourself in a position to if all

1107
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: of this is over, then what's the plan. When I

1108
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: first started uh this organization, I remember going to this big,

1109
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 4: fancy party.

1110
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 2: It was downtown. There was a lot of movers.

1111
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: And shakers in the city, and there was a guy

1112
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 4: there who was a big mover and shaker in the city,

1113
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: and I told him that, you know, I'm starting an organization,

1114
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: a black organization, you know, four black people.

1115
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: And I told him that, you.

1116
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 4: Know, we're doing this on our own, like we're not

1117
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: getting no funding from nobody.

1118
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: We're getting it out the mud, YadA YadA. You know.

1119
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 4: He just kind of chuckled and said, you know, brother,

1120
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 4: you're not going to be able to be successful in

1121
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 4: the movement if you don't get if you don't use

1122
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 4: white people money, or if you're not being able to

1123
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: get money from other different places and spaces, and really

1124
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: just shut me down, which motivated me for eight years

1125
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 4: to really not even want to be bothered with nobody

1126
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: else's money, just to prove to myself that we could

1127
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 4: be able to do some of the work that we've

1128
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: been able to do and have a certain level of

1129
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 4: impact without that. Now moving forward and growing and being

1130
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: able to have like I'm in the business of our

1131
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: people in our community, so being in the business of

1132
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: our people in our community, I have an understanding that

1133
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: these things that you just mentioned is important because we

1134
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 4: do need you know, you got to be able.

1135
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: You got to be able to scale about I've never

1136
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: gotten a grant, a loan, a hook up, or an

1137
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: investor or nothing.

1138
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: I have a staff environments putting.

1139
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: Three hundred people to work twenty four hours at the

1140
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: for profit. I've been a for profit this whole time

1141
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: that I've done, including that training that was just just

1142
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: we just figured it out. So I'm a big believer

1143
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: in figuring it out. But if I want to scale up,

1144
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 1: if I want to it, you gotta you have to

1145
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 1: I've never wanted on. Probably now I'm like cliches, gotta

1146
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: and why. And it's not even because I'm going on

1147
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: an individual campaign crowdfunding type thing. I just need to

1148
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: make it easier so the friends that I do have,

1149
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: if it is a Crump or Charlotte Maye or Killer

1150
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: Mike or whoever, you know, can you help get this

1151
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: training because people need to be able that they can't

1152
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: afford to come to the train, you know, even just

1153
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: the small things, or at least putting yourself in position,

1154
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, to be able to have you know, other options.

1155
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: If there is a twenty five hundred dollars grand for

1156
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: political education, you.

1157
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 3: Know, I don't know.

1158
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: But if you want to scale up add over fifty cities,

1159
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: ask me to bring that training. Who I can't go

1160
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: broke doing it myself, liked, I gotta figure it out.

1161
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: So it's not about you know, oh yeah, I'm doing

1162
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: it because I'm trying to come up.

1163
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 3: No, just to scale up the big to be able

1164
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: to have you got to be able.

1165
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: To do it again if God has called you, you know,

1166
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: for smaller organizations, guys, you're like, hey, we're just gonna

1167
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: do this right here, you know, we're gonna do.

1168
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna it's absolutely gonna make an impact. Keep doing it.

1169
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: But if you've been charged now where you have forty

1170
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: fifty cities, you know that am saying this. We need that,

1171
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: we need that. It's only so much, you know, if

1172
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: nothing else is did somebody need to be able to

1173
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: write off in con donation, even if it's an individual,

1174
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: you go drop stuff off at Salvation Army to give

1175
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: you a receipt to write it back. Sometimes that's people.

1176
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: So we want to put people, even in the individual,

1177
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: even in a position to make it beneficial to help

1178
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: move this along. That That's what I'm saying.

1179
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: And so I'm with you one, you know what I mean.

1180
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: The only thing that my the only reason I brought

1181
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 4: that up is just you know, even when we talk

1182
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 4: about those type of things, So let's say they do,

1183
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 4: you know, take the bottom out, you know, and make

1184
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 4: it harder for organizations like ours. I just want to

1185
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 4: encourage people to have an understanding that all things are possible,

1186
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 4: you know, like just continue to push and put in

1187
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 4: work and deal with your people like we a trillion

1188
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: dollar conglomerate in ourselves, you know, and we work in

1189
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: ourn black community. So you know, people just have to

1190
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: hold themselves accountable to do more. And then we got

1191
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: to be able to do that too.

1192
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: So you know, I.

1193
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: Want not take the bottom out that we need to

1194
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: get active, so they don't take no bottom man like that,

1195
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: Like that just can't be an option because everybody can

1196
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: come a new air of de joit like, you can't

1197
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: hold it all for everybody. You know, you can't have

1198
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: that type of pressure. So if fifty organizations leave tomorrow,

1199
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: it can't be all on you that you really gonna need.

1200
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: Health because now you got all the pressure on you.

1201
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: So in state rights, when we talk about nonprofits in

1202
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: your state, you know, federal that's something else. But to

1203
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: take attention to who your governor is, pay attention to

1204
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: your state. Don't let the bottom get pulled out. We

1205
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: cannot afford it. It will be a catastrophe. If you

1206
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: think it's bad now, it will really be what we

1207
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: need our organization. I don't think all churches do the

1208
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: right thing. I'm hard on pastors, but there are some

1209
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: churches that do that.

1210
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: People.

1211
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: There are some churches that do that have programs that

1212
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: give scholarships, that give out We cannot let the bottom

1213
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: be taken out because no, I'm encouraging people to keep

1214
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing, but I'm also encouraging you to

1215
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: do more two things at once. The bottom can't get

1216
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: taken out. And so this is one that I just

1217
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: want to bring people's attention to that we have to

1218
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: pay attention. We cannot just take that for granted because

1219
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: those these civic organizations, if they do it with ACLU,

1220
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if that's going to happen, Zeke,

1221
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out the people.

1222
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean you've got to. You gotta put

1223
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: it out there because it's a possibility.

1224
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, and you know, and being

1225
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 4: a prominent voice, you know you you gotta do it.

1226
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. This is this is something

1227
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 4: that could happen. So you know what, when you do

1228
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: things like that, you know, it helps them a lot

1229
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 4: of different ways.

1230
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: Okay, if it does happen, let's start to prepare for that.

1231
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: And then if if if you know, we put ourselves

1232
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 4: in a position to fight for it. Okay, well, these

1233
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: are the things that we have to do in order

1234
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 4: to fight for it. So it has to be said,

1235
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: you know.

1236
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: What I mean, like it's so much bigger than just

1237
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not minimizing any program, but like legal assistance,

1238
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: like these motions that gotta get filed again, we go

1239
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: to law school for this. You don't need money on

1240
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: the civil side. Who's gonna file these motions where everybody's saying, oh,

1241
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: why somebody won't do it? Okay, go invest three to

1242
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: four to five years of your own money. You're asking

1243
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: an attorney to invest three to four to five years

1244
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: of your own money hoping that you win, hoping that

1245
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: you win, and if you do, you get your money

1246
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: back on the back end. But by the time then

1247
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: you don't invest in so much. You know, I'm talking

1248
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: about the civil rights of it all. That's why people

1249
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: don't want make civil rights attorneys. Okay, go do three

1250
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: four five years. The host caught case that we worked on,

1251
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: you got two hundred and fifty two hundred and six

1252
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: seven years the man to rate thirteen black women in

1253
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, fourteen. We still file emotions on that today.

1254
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, still file.

1255
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: Emotions on that today. Who's gonna be paying these legal fees?

1256
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying.

1257
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: When you have nonprofit organizations legal aid assistance.

1258
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 3: All of that.

1259
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: Who go help with that? That ain't in kind, that's

1260
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: not some I'm like just showing up. Oh, let's all

1261
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: chip in. No, this is stuff where we actually need

1262
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: resources and money and services. So the attorney that's doing

1263
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 1: this free work for thirty two thousand dollars a year,

1264
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: which is nothing. Forty thousand dollars a year, they can

1265
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: at least pay the rent.

1266
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: This is we are all the same definitely with it.

1267
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, like people, you can't just do this for free,

1268
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: like somebody gotta you gotta pay the rent.

1269
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: After school programs.

1270
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: I can volunteer my ass off, but at the end

1271
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: of the day, if I'm not paying my rent, I'm

1272
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to go get a job. So can I

1273
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: get fifty you know how much I can pay the

1274
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 1: sub I've been in sebichiations, but I'm always on somebody's roster.

1275
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: And whatever city I live in, for five hours, I

1276
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: make forty five dollars. With three degrees forty five dollars

1277
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars you get a day if you lucky.

1278
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: That's why at anytime I can work it anytime. It's

1279
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: always in the data PAB. It's available every day that

1280
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: I can go work. It's again, this is where when

1281
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: we talk about these programs, these grants, all this, we

1282
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: just necessary, guys, It's not just we all just can

1283
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: do it on our own. Note the average American cannot

1284
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: cover a six hundred dollars emergency.

1285
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: That's just a fact.

1286
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: So we cannot ignore it. I'm all about, don't beg

1287
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: go get it, get it, get it, get it. I've

1288
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: always been a for profit I've never been anything else.

1289
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: But I want to know. We are in a dangerous time.

1290
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: You know that we have to pay attention to fun

1291
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: and do it ourselves. But people ain't got fifty dollars

1292
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: to give you, Zeke. They don't have fifty dollars to

1293
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: give you. And it's gonna take a whole lot of fifty,

1294
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Speaker 1: you know, to be able to cover fifty, you know.

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 3: So that's that's all.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed when I see organizations like you said, I

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: do want to encourage people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, encouragement.

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Speaker 1: I also want encourage and pay attention to this policy.

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: Well before we got to tell me a little bit

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01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: about you just did an amazing thing in Detroit with

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01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: beating a homeless tell us a little bit about that, Yeah,

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: this was.

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01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: Our four fun annual hotels for the Homers. So once

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 4: again it goes back to you know, what can we

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01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 4: do to have more of an impact? You know, everybody's

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01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: passing our turkeys, and you know, I'm always I'm people

1308
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 4: people say, you know, Zee, why you so heard on

1309
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: the turkey people that passed out up turkey.

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01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 2: Somebody has me that the other day.

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01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 4: And my thing is this, you know, and and all realness,

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01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 4: you know, for small organizations and small churches and people

1313
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 4: who just trying to put something together and do something.

1314
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: I think that that's a good thing to do.

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01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 4: But if you a millionaire and if you you know,

1316
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 4: you got means to do other things, I don't want

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01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 4: to see nobody go out and buy ten thousand turkeys

1318
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: to pass out. You know, we did the math on

1319
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 4: that yesterday. We said in my office and some of

1320
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 4: my guys we talked about somebody who's passing out like

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01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 4: ten thousand turkeys or something crazy, and I was, well,

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01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: let's do the number on that, like how much is

1323
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 4: an average turkey if they paid for it? And you

1324
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: know a lot of times, of course, it's like we said,

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01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 4: a lot of these grocery stores they'll donate it or whatever,

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01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,479
Speaker 4: but if you paid for it, let's put a dollar

1327
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 4: amount on that ten thousand turkeys at ten fifteen dollars.

1328
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 4: We did it fifteen dollars. That's one hundred and fifty

1329
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. And it's just like, are we really taking

1330
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to pass out a

1331
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 4: frozen a piece of food that most people who are

1332
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 4: really hungry and really need this food don't even have

1333
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 4: the means to cook this thing. And that's like we

1334
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 4: start to look at that, you know, some years back,

1335
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 4: and was like, what else can we do that's impactful

1336
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: around this time that's going to really be able to

1337
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: change and save some life. So we waited to after

1338
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 4: the turkeys, you know, so what's the very next day,

1339
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 4: Black Friday? So now every single Black Friday weekend we

1340
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: first started out, the first time we did it, we

1341
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: can only afford forty people to say that, the forty

1342
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: rooms for.

1343
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: People to stay the night at the hotel.

1344
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 4: And then we was like, well we owned something with this,

1345
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: and you know, we've just been able to make it

1346
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: bigger and better. So now every weekend during Black Friday,

1347
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 4: we completely rent out an entire hotel. We take hundreds

1348
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 4: of people who living on the streets off the streets

1349
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: for a whole weekend. We give them food, we give

1350
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 4: them clothes, but the most important thing that whole weekend

1351
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 4: in the conference room, we have all different type of resources,

1352
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: job resources, housing resources, mental health, substance abuse. We got

1353
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 4: our barbers and beauticians coming in uh doing here, you know,

1354
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 4: just about anything that somebody living on the street we need.

1355
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: We have those resources available all weekend and we've been

1356
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 4: able to help so many people. We actually gave away

1357
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 4: a car this year to a single mother for who

1358
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 4: is just who came in living on the streets.

1359
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: You know.

1360
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 4: Now she got a vehicle to get back in forth

1361
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 4: to work, to get a kick started. We was able

1362
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 4: to get you know, a few people in the housing

1363
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 4: immediately on the spot, and then the resources that we

1364
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 4: had we were able to help you know, the rest

1365
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 4: of the people with But I mean, homelessness is a

1366
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 4: real issue.

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 2: You know, we talk.

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01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 3: About predicted so many different things.

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: I love I want to put a pin on that

1370
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: and make sure that didn't go nobody said, because people

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01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: can say okay, well you just need it.

1372
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: The weekend they going back homeless.

1373
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: No, you provided the resources to get to the root

1374
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: of the problem that is affecting homelessness, and I love

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01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: that continue.

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01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: No, And just for the people that say those types

1378
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: of things, well I need you to have that same

1379
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 4: criticism for people who passing out frozen turkeys to.

1380
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 2: People who live.

1381
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 4: If you don't have a problem with that, you, for shure,

1382
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 4: shouldn't have a problem with hundreds of people coming off.

1383
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 2: The streets who have kids.

1384
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: So these are just people, you know, adults, and people

1385
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 4: think about homelessness. They look at the adults not to

1386
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 4: know like this adult got three or four kids that's living,

1387
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 4: you know, on the streets with them. So wea hundreds

1388
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 4: hundreds of kids, uh to you know who we completely

1389
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 4: get off the street, they can take a shower, they're

1390
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: living in a warm condition, and then the entire weekend

1391
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 4: were helping them, you know, get out of the situation

1392
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 4: as best as we possibly can to provide more resources.

1393
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 4: So the thing is always long term solutions with us,

1394
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: and this program is just grown man. And there's still

1395
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 4: no major sponsorships with this UH program, but I know

1396
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 4: we'll get there. But once again, we were gonna continue

1397
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: to do what we do and and and and show

1398
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 4: people that there are other options to do things outside

1399
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 4: of the typical cliche community work. You know, you know,

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01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 4: we get all star Turkey Drive. Why y'all want to

1401
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: get you know, five or six people who worth millions

1402
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 4: apiece to get outside and go past our turk.

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 2: I just I just so.

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: You're not alone.

1405
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: It don't make no sense.

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with it. Hey, I'm with it,

1407
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: like you. I was very clear on the Breakfast Club.

1408
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: You know, even when it comes to celebrities and politics,

1409
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: like I don't you know, you'll hear people say, you know,

1410
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: that's why we don't need our entertainers talking for us

1411
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: and all that. I don't want to shut the entertainer up.

1412
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't want you to not be a part of process.

1413
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: What I'm asking to do is, though, partner with organizations

1414
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: that do this year around, because it does no good

1415
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: to hype everybody up for three months and then from

1416
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 1: hanging like you, you actually made the problem worse because

1417
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: once again you abandoned them. Once again you you came

1418
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: in and you said this is important and important and important,

1419
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: and then when the smoke got heavy, because really a

1420
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: lot of them get out of then.

1421
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: Like the smoke, a lot of it. They only want

1422
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: to be applaud They only as long as we're clapping

1423
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: for you. That's fine. The minute you get boomed, the

1424
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 3: minute you.

1425
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: Get criticized, which is the majority of this work, the

1426
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: minute you start now, oh yeah, I'm done politics. Well

1427
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: you just made it worse. I would rather you had

1428
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: just not gotten in. If you're not going to get

1429
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: in and immediately say I'm going to partner with this organizer,

1430
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: you are actually hurting us, sir, you really are, because

1431
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: we could really benefit from a post a couple times

1432
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: a year, just a couple times a year to get

1433
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 1: the eyeballs on what the work that we're doing.

1434
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1435
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm wanting the chains involved, but I want you

1436
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: to not be involved on your own.

1437
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 3: I want you to get somebody else. It's like you

1438
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: said one hundred and fifty that you know like to

1439
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: do it one hundred and fifty thousand.

1440
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you just hit the nail on

1441
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 4: the head with that said, that's one of my biggest

1442
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 4: and I mean my biggest griefs with it comes to

1443
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 4: you know, whether it be rappers or entertainers or celebrities

1444
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 4: or whatever, and then they they'll come once a year

1445
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: and they'll bring all this media and all this fan

1446
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 4: fare and all the rest of this stuff for one event.

1447
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 4: Then once again, you know, not paying for nothing. You know,

1448
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 4: most of these people, you know that I mentioned, they

1449
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 4: not going in they pockets. You know, they they partnering

1450
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 4: up with the big companies and corporations that's making it happen.

1451
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 4: They just the face opposed to working with organizations that's

1452
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 4: working in their community, like that's one thing of working.

1453
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 4: And all of these different communities across the cut, you

1454
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 4: see how many people that's really got the heart and

1455
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 4: the want of this work. And you see, you know

1456
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 4: how they don't get no support, you know what I mean,

1457
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 4: How how are we living in all these cities where

1458
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 4: we know we got people same as people who are

1459
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 4: going to at least do the turkey drive once a

1460
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 4: year or the backpack once a year. How you are

1461
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 4: not at least partnering up with your local organization to

1462
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 4: help them further their work. Because these people work every

1463
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: day you in the studio, they are free. So it

1464
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 4: was like it's common sense to me, and you know,

1465
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm mst I'm gonna push that I'm gonna continue to

1466
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 4: push that.

1467
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: Let's just be honest.

1468
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 1: They want the shine, they want all the shot, and

1469
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: I tell them you can have the shine like you're

1470
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: You're going to have a bigger base than me. You're

1471
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: going people are gonna like you because they're like the music.

1472
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: So nowhere reason I'm not taking anything from you. What

1473
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: I'm asking to do is to help killer. Mike gets

1474
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: this better than anybody here.

1475
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 2: I love that interview that he did.

1476
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,600
Speaker 4: You know, I got that pin just because he just

1477
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 4: hit the nail on the head man Like, if every

1478
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: celebrity thought in that manner, you know the type of

1479
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 4: motion that we will see in our community right right,

1480
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 4: If every celebrity picked organization that's working. Not these hand

1481
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 4: picked organization are the same ones, boys and girl clubs

1482
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 4: and all that. Not saying that they don't do good work,

1483
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 4: but the community rooted in the community organizations. If these

1484
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 4: celebrities from these cities start to work and really partner

1485
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 4: up with these organizations, you will see change in our

1486
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 4: communities like that.

1487
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: And nobody asking them to do Like I'm not even

1488
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: asking you for a check, I'm not asking you to

1489
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: do I'm just asking you to let your millions of

1490
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: people know this is what we're doing, so that we

1491
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: certainly would love to take a check by all me.

1492
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is just shine some light this way.

1493
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: Let me help me break through the noise, because the

1494
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: bullshit always gets the attention and entertaining. Everybody go on

1495
01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: Instagram to get entertained. Just slide me in every now

1496
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: and then and kill me that he understand the role

1497
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: of a mobilizer, like he said, and he's actually an

1498
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: organized he started. But he'll tell you, Hey, I'm singing

1499
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: and dancing on stage. My job is to show you, Hey,

1500
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: this is what they're doing over here. This is what

1501
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: they're doing over here. Go look over here, and then

1502
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: hopefully some man the people will come. Straggle overlong and

1503
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 1: I gotta work harder and get five, ten, twenty people

1504
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: every night, you know, because they don't come in massive

1505
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: droves because this is hard work. People don't want to

1506
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: show up for the hard work. But if be an

1507
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: entertainer and a celebrity just to partner, like you said,

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01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: just pick one that you get behind and get behind

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01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: just me. You might just share it to your story

1510
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: once a quarter. Like literally, I'm I'm literally willing to

1511
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: take the basic minimum, you know, thing to help get

1512
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: our message out because you have more people following you

1513
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,480
Speaker 1: than me or demand killer.

1514
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 3: Michael do that.

1515
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: Like if you were say, Okay, I'm gonna do X

1516
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: y Z no this company, you need to work with her.

1517
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: You need to make sure that you're partnering with her,

1518
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, using the turkey for example, if you gonna

1519
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: say we're gonna give turk, you need to make sure

1520
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: you know who Zeke is because he's gonna also need

1521
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: this for this and this and that. So if you

1522
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: want to work with me for my face, is gonna

1523
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: require you to work with Zeke. You know, a turn

1524
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: of celebrities could push that line if they want to.

1525
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 1: They could.

1526
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 4: So all we got to do is keep holding you know,

1527
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 4: keep holding the line, holding them accountable, and keep doing

1528
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 4: the work. I mean, that's one thing that you know

1529
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm big on, man, Like you know, people told me,

1530
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 4: you know, five six years ago, somebody asked, somebody say like,

1531
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 4: why don't you just.

1532
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: Push push more?

1533
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 4: Like for what you're doing, you'll be able to get

1534
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 4: some of these bigger interviews and get shine more light.

1535
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 4: I'll say, man, my people in my movement can't come

1536
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 4: with me that I don't care about all that I

1537
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 4: tell people, some people don't know my name, but they

1538
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 4: all point be like new Arad trait, like that's that's

1539
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 4: more important than me, like the movement, than being able

1540
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: to push that and then get people to understand, like,

1541
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 4: you know, the movement of all all of us, it's

1542
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: not just about one person or you know, one one

1543
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: one in the visual. You know, it's just about all

1544
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 4: of us coming together and playing our role. That's the thing.

1545
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 4: Like all we gotta do is play our role. Like

1546
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 4: you said, what's the what's the putting? Uh put put

1547
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 4: posting you in your story posting Like that's bare minimum

1548
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 4: stuff that you know, what is that?

1549
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: Is that really that big of an ass?

1550
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: And it's just like we just got to keep doing,

1551
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 4: keep going, keep holding ourselves accountable and you know, keep

1552
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 4: our ears to the streets and keep working for the

1553
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 4: streets and for the people. And I think that, you know,

1554
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 4: we do a great job at that as an organization.

1555
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 4: And then you as well, I gotta commend you, sister,

1556
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 4: you know, you do a tremendous job and making sure

1557
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 4: that you hold people accountable. And you talking about the

1558
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 4: stuff that need to be talked about and discussed. So

1559
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 4: I just appreciate you too as well, you know, just

1560
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 4: taking the time to even interview me today about a

1561
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 4: lot of the stuff that we do as an organization

1562
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 4: because I know your reach, you know what I mean.

1563
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that somebody else might see this and be like, well,

1564
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: let me talk to this brother too, you know what

1565
01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 4: I mean. Already talked to Charlamagne. I gotta get up

1566
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 4: get that seat one day on the Breakfast Club. But

1567
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 4: you know, it's just steps, man. That's that's all we

1568
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 4: gonna do, is keep taking steps, keep focusing on the work,

1569
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 4: you know, and keep putting the people first. Like that's

1570
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 4: that's gonna always forever be the mission and the goal.

1571
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody, like you said, my my my program

1572
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: pushed the line the logo. There's one person holding the pee,

1573
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: won the U, the S, the H and then there's

1574
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: a child on the side watching.

1575
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 3: So everybody has their role to do.

1576
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: I have to do my role because if I if

1577
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: I got put on with you and I saw what

1578
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,759
Speaker 1: you do when I got a platform, Hey, my platform

1579
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: is not as big as everybody else, is not big

1580
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: as Shannon Sharp, but still, I'm gonna do my part.

1581
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: Were still with our heart. I'm gonna do my part

1582
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: to mention you on revolt. I'm gonna do my part

1583
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: mentioning you on the breakfast club sitting right there. I've

1584
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: done my partner. They got their part, open up them.

1585
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 1: You gotta do that his part.

1586
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 4: I can.

1587
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: I'm held accountable.

1588
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: But and then the un tak Yeah, at the end

1589
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: of the day, you gotta be held accountable for your part.

1590
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: And that's what I teach Verse module. It's not about we,

1591
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: it's about me. That's little pop out people love saying, well,

1592
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: we all need to do this. No what you're gonna do,

1593
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: Let's just talk about what you gonna just you don't

1594
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: worry about everybody else. Stop waiting on this big meeting

1595
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: with everybody. Yeah, I say this and close out whether

1596
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: you are religious. If you're not religious, and you don't

1597
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: have to worry about it, but if you are, you

1598
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: will be held accountable. You will people say you you

1599
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: the goat, you to goat, you to goat. Well in

1600
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: the word it says something about at the end, you're

1601
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 1: gonna be standing before them twenty four elders. Right now,

1602
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: we're in twenty twenty four, and it's been twenty twenty

1603
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: four and all year the year of accounty, and you

1604
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: will be be saying it, that's real. You will be

1605
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: standing for twenty four elders, and the question will be

1606
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: asked where they will separate the goat from the sheep,

1607
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: the week from the tear. So if you want to

1608
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 1: be the goat on earth, the greatest all time, that's fine.

1609
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: But in the end, when it's time for accountability, the

1610
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: question will be asked, will you have you been about

1611
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: the shepherd's business? And the shepher's business is did you

1612
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: feed the homeless? Did you give them cloth? Did you

1613
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: come see me in prison? Did you do your work?

1614
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 3: And not one.

1615
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: Answer will be able to be well. I am boxy,

1616
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: and he never got back to me. I told him,

1617
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: but she never put me on. I told such and

1618
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: such and they never told no, no, no, no, no no.

1619
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: The question is what did you do to be about

1620
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 1: the shepherd's business? So those who are always waiting on

1621
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 1: somebody else and somebody need to do this, and somebody

1622
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: need to do that, and on live somebody. I do

1623
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: want more help, I do want us to help. I

1624
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: do want more visibility. But if they don't, never give

1625
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: us no visibility. If they don't never talk about it.

1626
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: I got this right here after mud didn't nobody put

1627
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: me on nothing. This came from blogger radio for thirty

1628
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: four dollars a month. This can't raising my hand at

1629
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: local elections. This came from getting on the grind Orlando

1630
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 1: and Orlando knowing I can rally a thousand people at

1631
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: any time, at any moment in a building. That's what

1632
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: came from the work, the hustle, and the muscle. I'm

1633
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 1: not a talking head. I'm an organizer, respected staying what

1634
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: it is. So guys organizing. Thank you Zee for your time.

1635
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be thirty minutes. I done got way

1636
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 1: more some time than I asked. But it is an

1637
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: honor to know you. It is an honor to be

1638
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: in community relationship with you. I'm excited about whatever you

1639
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: have in Detroit. I'm putting together a tour now. Detroit

1640
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: is obviously you know, on the list, and we'll talk

1641
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: more about that. You know, you and I have been

1642
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,879
Speaker 1: talking about that because I really want to see Detroit,

1643
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, really really, you know, I didn't like what

1644
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: I saw in this last election. To be just quite

1645
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: honest with you, meaning I think the voice needs to

1646
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 1: be that. I'm just gonna go ahead and say, and

1647
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: this is no disrespect, you know, to Conmers, Rashida to Lee.

1648
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: But I do want and I hope you know that

1649
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 1: that there's more you know, black presentation, that the things

1650
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: that Detroit need, that Black Detroit. You know that those

1651
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: things are getting taken care of because because basically Dearborn

1652
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: you know, spoke for all of Detroit. And that's fine.

1653
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: You know, people get out and vote and they do whatever.

1654
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,480
Speaker 1: You know, Rashita to leave has a very strong demographic,

1655
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: and she was pushing very hard for her down in

1656
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: Palestinian people, as she should.

1657
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 3: I have no problem with that, but I.

1658
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: Do want to see Detroit certainly, you know, make sure

1659
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: that there at all tables local to the federal UH

1660
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 1: and on down. So anything that I can do to

1661
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: help with that, I'm down. You'll got a big election

1662
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: coming up. You know, I've offered saying it now, I've

1663
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: offered it to you many times. Always available to partner

1664
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: with you, you know, for the political education training and

1665
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: hopefully you know we can get together because that's exactly

1666
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 1: what I'm planning on doing, next year with the tour.

1667
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, let's get it one hundred and ten percent.

1668
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 4: I know we got a real big play that we're

1669
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 4: gonna put together the next year.

1670
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: I feel it.

1671
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 4: And then just whatever you need from us, you know,

1672
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 4: anywhere in this country on the ground system.

1673
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 2: You know, we got your back. And then let's just

1674
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 2: keep continuing and do the work.

1675
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 4: Let's keep pushing that line, like you say, And you know,

1676
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 4: I know exactly, I know for a fact that we're

1677
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 4: gonna see what we need to see and get it

1678
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 4: accomplished what we need to get accomplished, just because we

1679
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 4: just determined people, you know what I.

1680
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: Mean, people, And be clear, God tired of people playing.

1681
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: That's right, It's real clear about one thing I do

1682
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: love about this. Let's expose up.

1683
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 3: I love it. I hope Cat Williams do a new interview.

1684
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: He didn't start flop on January one to pop it

1685
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: off like let's hit it because I want all twelve

1686
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 1: months of Pandora.

1687
01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 3: But I love it.

1688
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: I let this year exposed the faith, the phony, who

1689
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: really with us?

1690
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: Who with her?

1691
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: I want more exposure to separate me from them, the

1692
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: real ones from from them. So k Dotton already got

1693
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: us together with already Lett turned the TV off. You

1694
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: know all I wanted was a black he didn't already

1695
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: said it all, so ready to go and win position.

1696
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Z for your time New eraon Detroit.

1697
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: You guys follow them on social media, Instagram, all social

1698
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: media sites. And again you're gonna see me talking about

1699
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: this brother and this organization because I'm just gonna keep

1700
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: on doing my part push the line.

1701
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Zeke for joining me.

1702
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you appreciate it.

1703
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: If you like what you heard on Straight Shot No Chaser,

1704
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,800
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1705
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,240
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1706
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,680
Speaker 1: Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartRadio on Teszlin figure Out,

1707
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,639
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1708
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,800
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