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That's EYL. 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 7: You n I V E R s I t Y 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 7: dot com. 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 8: See it there feeding you know, the machine like machine 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 8: learning technology, feeding it songs from Eminem Travis Guy and 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 8: then it producing a sound, an original song that is 38 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 8: based off that word poses so many legal issues. 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 5: It was a producer. 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: They were like, yo, let's put Timberland for real, and 41 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: let's make beats. And it made like seventy beats in 42 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 4: the hours. 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 8: Fit you just feed it to the machine and just 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 8: put spits out a beat. 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: Or I can take Blast's voice and I could be 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: the person singing it and it's his voice. 47 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 5: Fit on my bike. 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 6: As an artist, how you cause that's kind of scary. Like, 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 6: you know, art is its supposed to be curated by 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 6: you know, it's a lot. How do you feel about 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 6: a machine just making art? 52 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 5: That's scary. 53 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 9: My graduates from my school being forced back drop b drop, Mike. 54 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 10: Drop back drop drop. 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 5: All right, guys, welcome back. 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 6: This is our second home, which is quickly becoming off 57 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 6: first home all the time now. And we got a 58 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 6: special special episode. So by now this show that we 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 6: have done will already have happened, so you would have 60 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 6: known that we had a special performance from one of 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 6: my favorite artists, Blast performance. 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, appreciate that. 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 6: But it all stemmed from what was that party? Where 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 6: do we first? Initially it was at a I met, Damn, 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 6: it was a party. It was outside Amazon, the Amazon. 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 6: So so you might be familiar with Blasts music. I'm 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 6: pretty sure you are, but a lot of times we 69 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 6: don't know the business behind it. So his partners in 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 6: the label Victor and Call, they have a label, a 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 6: label Eagle, and it's interesting because it's independent label. So 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 6: for Earn your Leisia obviously business platforms. So we're going 73 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 6: to talk about the publishing. We're going to talk about 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 6: trial and stipulations of running the label partnerships LA and Newark. 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: We got both sides working here. We can't forget venture. 76 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 6: Capital a bunch of stuff and feel like it's a 77 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 6: dope conversation that happen, especially at this time. So I 78 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 6: wanted to thank you guys for joining us. Appreciate it, 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 6: Thank you very much for having us. Yeah, and I 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 6: use your lyrics for my captions a lot. 81 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 5: I love it. 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 6: My favorite one is on if you're a big step 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 6: of don trip over small ship. That got a lot 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 6: of traction when I pulled it, like, no, that's genius. 85 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: I'm like from yeah, yeah, noah. 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 6: So I appreciate that you ghost ghost written a lot 87 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 6: of captions for me. 88 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: And congrats, congrats just for clarity too out right now officially, 89 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: l you know what I'm saying that that's it. That's 90 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: a good one, A nice little something to keep the 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: taste buzz. 92 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the appetizer. 93 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 6: Advertiser to the mill. So all right, let's start. So, 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 6: all right, where do you guys meet at Because you 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: guys are from South Central, you're from Newark, but none 96 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 6: of you knew each other, right, So where do you 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 6: meet and where does the idea come to actually start 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 6: working together. 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 11: I initially met Vic just renting down a studio in 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 11: Cuover City. It was a studio that he was running 101 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 11: and I would just go there, you know, just trying 102 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 11: to take time away from being at home with my 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 11: son and stuff. So I found a spot and uh, 104 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 11: it was just like like we're your team at because 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 11: he seen me doing everything producing, recording myself, and he 106 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 11: was like, now we got to put something plays together. 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 11: So we came up with this thing called a calendar, 108 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 11: a content calendar, which we'll we'll pick each date and 109 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 11: pick something the posts and just gaze the results from there. 110 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 11: Then Carl, he had reached out from Instagram. 111 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 8: This was a minute ago to a lot of the 112 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 8: DM early. 113 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 11: So what was crazy is vic mom and my mom 114 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 11: stayed around the corner from each other and we didn't 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 11: even know each other growing up. 116 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 5: Oh so y'all grew up next to each other, but 117 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 5: you don't know each. 118 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 6: Other, right, yeah, okay, so all right, y'all, So y'all 119 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 6: build it. 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 5: When does the label start? 121 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 11: Labels started twenty seventeen. This was around the time I 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 11: had my son, and Uh, Initially it was just something 123 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 11: for me to represent myself because I always looked at 124 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 11: it like it's better when a company represents you versus 125 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 11: you represent yourself. And I feel like Carl pretty much 126 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 11: made it make sense for me. Vickers, well, that was 127 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 11: just the initial beginning of everything as far as ego. 128 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: But you was doing music prior to that, right before 129 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: you had the actual label. You was putting out music 130 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: just by yourself. Now, I was actually part of a 131 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: collective before I wanted to know. It's like, what was 132 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: the letter C I t I you and I was like, 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: I know. 134 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 5: You in it. 135 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: I was about to say I see you, but I'm like, 136 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 4: it ain't that. 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: It's dangerous. 138 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 6: That's another collective. So all right, so you you. So 139 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 6: that's interesting. I remember I said that like when an 140 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 6: author like putting a book out, it's always better to 141 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 6: seem like you. You you have a publishing company as 142 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 6: opposed to being an independent author. So he created a 143 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 6: publishing company because it just looks better to have like 144 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 6: one break publishing produce this book as opposed to just 145 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 6: ashcatch just the author. So the label that's kind of 146 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 6: that similar to that. So when you start the label. 147 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 6: It's still with the purpose of you just being the 148 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 6: solo artist on the label, but it looks better if 149 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 6: it's a label as opposed to you just hustling as 150 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 6: an independent artist. 151 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 152 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 11: I mean, of course, we had goals to make it 153 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 11: bigger eventually anyway, so we had to start somewhere, and 154 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 11: I feel like it was perfect to start the foundation 155 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 11: with myself of course. 156 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 5: So what's each one of you guys responsibility in the label? 157 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 12: So, I mean, I'm the president of the label, and 158 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 12: I'm also a Blast manager too though, Yeah, we're both 159 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 12: those hats. 160 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a I'm the CEO co founder too, but 161 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 8: I'm also also Blast attorney. 162 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, man International. Yeah, we'll get that. 163 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 5: We're gonna talk about that. 164 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: So you're managing that first, right, So where did you 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: get the background and that or is that something that 166 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: you saw the talent and you said, all right, let 167 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: me see where I can help, Well, like, did you 168 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: have experience? 169 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: Probably? I mean nah, I really I never wanted to 170 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 5: work in music ever. 171 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 12: That wasn't really my that wasn't really my goal when 172 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 12: I was in college, played football in college. So I 173 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 12: went to University of Washington, went to graduate school in 174 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 12: southern Illinois. So when I moved home, I was working 175 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 12: for Bennie Boone and I was doing like all their 176 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 12: product merchandising. I started working with Dame Dash a little bit, 177 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 12: so like I was really more so in the content 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 12: distribution world, in the product distribution world. And from there 179 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 12: it's really just like the skills I took from playing football, 180 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,119 Speaker 12: I was already running my own company making merchandise, throwing events, 181 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 12: so just taking it intangible from those, I was like, shit, 182 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 12: you already a one man show. I could really just 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 12: plug in these different outlets around Joe Prix, just some talent, 184 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 12: and then we can try to go to the moon 185 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 12: with it. 186 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: So really that's where all conjured up from. 187 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 6: So all right, so when does this really start to 188 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 6: take off? Because I think I got turned on to 189 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 6: your music, like probably like eighteen months ago. I thought like, 190 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 6: that's when like the wave really started to hit, at 191 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 6: least on the East Coach. I'm not sure you probably 192 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 6: had a buzz out here already, But when does this 193 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 6: go from Okay, this is becoming a mainstream situation. 194 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 11: I would say when we did the partnership with Red Bull, 195 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 11: I mean, I definitely had a buzz dropping music with 196 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 11: Being Overdult. 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 5: Which is from La as well. 198 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 11: We got this project called the Sixth Tape, and I 199 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 11: felt like No Love Lost was my follow up solo project, 200 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 11: and I feel like that that made the noise, that's 201 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 11: what had chosen. Yeah, and went double platinum straight out 202 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 11: the gate, and was that twenty twenty yeah? 203 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: Six Yeah, And we knew Bino from being with it, 204 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 4: so I was like, familiar did the tape with it? 205 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah? That that was the Stuck in the Grind? 206 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 5: I remember he's on all over that Stuck in the 207 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 5: Grind LP. That was That's dope. 208 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 4: So the Red Bull situation is interesting, right because and Carl, 209 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: I'm sure you had your hands all over the so 210 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: red build. It was obviously we know it as a 211 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: as a drink, right, but we didn't know that they 212 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: were making actual artists. So how did you approach them 213 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: and make this deal happen? Because this is the first 214 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 4: this is the first tape that y'all put out, right 215 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: for sure? 216 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 8: I mean I always talked to the VIC about it. 217 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 8: I mean, like you know, everybody industry was like, you know, 218 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 8: what label are you picking? 219 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: Right? 220 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 8: It was a conversation like, who what label you going to? 221 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 8: But you know, I think RedBull offered something that the 222 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: labels couldn't, which is like, you know, that can's in 223 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 8: every single place across the globe, Like and not only 224 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 8: do they have the can, but they have f one. 225 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 8: Not only do that f one, they got you know, 226 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 8: the cultural teams in every little city. So it just 227 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 8: it just made sense. We were like, you know what, 228 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 8: what don't we have? Don't we have access to? And 229 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 8: they and they just had it. So they came to us. 230 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 8: They have a record, they have a record side. Most 231 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 8: people don't know that Red Bulls as a record label 232 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 8: and are kind of contacted us and it just went 233 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 8: from there. 234 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 6: So what exactly was the partnership with Red Bull? Were 235 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 6: they like fifty fifty partners in the distribution of the music? 236 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 6: You know, it's like it's like a label deal. 237 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 8: It's like it's like a partnership. Definitely more that I 238 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 8: would say, definitely more of a partnership. And then you 239 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 8: know they gave us, you know, overhead to to sort 240 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 8: of build our company out and you know, we're still 241 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 8: in business today. We're signing artists with them. You know, 242 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 8: we got an office at Red Bull. So it's cool. 243 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 8: It's a really really cool partnership for sure. 244 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 6: So what makes you want to all right, but what 245 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 6: makes you want to choose Red Bull over because I'm 246 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 6: assuming that you had a lot of labels that will 247 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 6: offer you situations because it's still not Red Bull is 248 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 6: still not a music company. So even though if they 249 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 6: have a lot of distribution and they have a lot 250 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 6: of big name most people would have just went with 251 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 6: a music company because that's what they specialized in. So 252 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 6: what made you want to choose a product and a 253 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 6: liquid product company as opposed to a music distribution company. 254 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 8: I think we were kind of like we we we 255 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 8: are the culture, like we are the music. We are 256 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 8: the you know, all of us, like all of us together, 257 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 8: we feel like in our respective cities, you know, we 258 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 8: just we've been doing this for a long time and 259 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 8: last music is incredible. You know, his ear, his uh, 260 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 8: you know, his taste, everything about it. So we were like, 261 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 8: the music's fine. The culture like, you know, we don't 262 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 8: need nobody to help us build culture in work community, 263 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 8: Like no label can teach us how to do that. 264 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 8: So we just wanted to partner that could that that 265 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 8: could you know, give us stuff that that we didn't 266 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 8: have access to. 267 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's the I'm just envisioned this now. 268 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: And from just the standpoint of like as you're looking 269 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: on the global scale, is the music showing up everywhere 270 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 4: that Red Bull shows up? And so we know that 271 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 4: big and like MLS and we know that big internationally. 272 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 4: Are you thinking that from a start? And did that 273 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: take convincing right? Like, Hey, I got this opportunity. Is 274 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: everybody on board, like, yeah, okay, we'll do this. 275 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 5: Yeah? 276 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 12: I think it was up in the air fresh for me. 277 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 12: So I wrote my dissertation on Red Bull in grad school. 278 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 12: Oh so I kind of already knew like the different avenues. 279 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 12: I mean, we joke all the time, but like my 280 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 12: favorite term is rdical integration. 281 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 5: That's what I wrote my paper on. 282 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 12: So that's how you even understood the fact of I mean, 283 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 12: everybody know the music world, they really make their money 284 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 12: off all their recoupable expenses that they dish out. So 285 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 12: you know, you start looking at Rebel and looking at 286 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 12: their different mediums. A lot of that stuff is non 287 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 12: recoupable costs when you start doing business with the outside entities. 288 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 12: So where it is, I know we're going to talk 289 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 12: about the venture stuff later, but where it is like 290 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 12: an artists who have to go back take that first 291 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 12: limp sum of money and buy their masters back. In 292 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 12: this situation, we was able to procure business terms to 293 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 12: where we didn't even have to go through that first step. 294 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 12: We automatically obtained all that from the jump, and then 295 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 12: we're going in and really invest right away rather than 296 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 12: being like, all right, I got to really play this 297 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 12: long game, go to these major labels, kiss they ass 298 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 12: try to get my shit back, buy it overpriced, and 299 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 12: then now when I'm like thirty five forty, I can 300 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 12: start getting really into this investment. So it's like, nah, 301 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 12: we wanted to do that now. And I think the 302 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 12: biggest thing is business is problem solving. So at the 303 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 12: end of the day, Red Bull needed a problem to 304 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 12: be solved, which was they never really had a real 305 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 12: prominent hip hop act in Los Angeles where their office is, 306 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 12: and that's really being from Los Angeles solved that problem 307 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 12: for him. So it's like I always say, it's like 308 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 12: the cool kids on the side with the nerves, like 309 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 12: it's cool. Like we went and got the answer, yeah, respectfully. 310 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 5: Out after red. 311 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 6: So all right, you said something integrated vertically and shout 312 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: out to rest in peace. 313 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 5: Uh. 314 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 6: That was one of my favorite lines that he used, 315 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 6: as well as integrated vertically your niggas blew it and 316 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 6: we talked about that like with Apple, right, that's probably 317 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 6: I think Apple has done the best job of being 318 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 6: in vertically integrated. So obviously that's something that you guys, 319 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 6: you know, practice, So how does that look in your 320 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 6: business model? 321 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 12: I mean, man, I think everything starts with just how 322 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 12: we operate from the jump. I mean, we have eleven 323 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 12: employees right now, everybody like on payroll. We got another 324 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 12: x amount of contractors as well, so everything from the 325 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 12: start and the epicenter is really controlled by us as 326 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 12: far as how things are distributed, how they look the 327 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 12: feel of it all. But I think that's a direct 328 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 12: reflection the Blast too though, because when I first met him, 329 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 12: like he said, he was doing a graphic design, editing 330 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 12: the videos, mixing the music record itself. 331 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 5: So I couldn't believe. 332 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 12: I'm like, bro, you were in the studio spending your money, 333 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 12: Like how are you being productive in here? Until I 334 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 12: actually went in there and he was like, yeah, I 335 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 12: do all this, this, this, this and this, So I 336 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 12: couldn't see how the business model couldn't reflect what Blast 337 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 12: is doing. 338 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: You know. 339 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I got your masters obviously the publishing 340 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: as well, right, and then you did something unique You 341 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: started not only just having writers, but started signing writers. 342 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: So like the business plan going into it, like, who's 343 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: coming up with that? 344 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 5: Right? Is that? Like the vision from the beginning. 345 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 8: I think so, I think the vision was kind of 346 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 8: how do we I think this is just like it's 347 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 8: an idea company. It's like, how can we do stuff? 348 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 5: Now? 349 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 8: We're cool, We're cool company because the music is just 350 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 8: like is one vehicle, It's one aspect of it, and 351 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 8: that's how we always viewed it. So, but you got 352 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 8: to be really good at music and talking about vertical 353 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 8: integration is like how do we own that process? So 354 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 8: at Black, you know, it becomes it makes less sense 355 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 8: for Blasts to write the songs, produce all the music 356 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 8: just from a time standpoint, Why would you? Why would 357 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 8: you do that? You know, you guys, you guys build 358 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 8: a you know, built the amazing business for yourself. You're 359 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 8: like cool, you know, now let's get some help, like 360 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 8: let's let's make sure everything's set up. So I think 361 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 8: we were like, cool, how do we how do we 362 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 8: put out more product more efficiently and grow our company? 363 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 8: And you know it was signing more artists, signing more songwriter, 364 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 8: signing more producers, and like Vic said, it just owning 365 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 8: the process. 366 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: So but you had your an entertainment attorney, correct, right. 367 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: So as you're building this, are you still practicing in 368 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 4: your own like the Folks Firm is a real thing, Yeah, 369 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: for sure. 370 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: So how are you managing both? Uh? 371 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 8: Man, It's funny. I got a lot of clients, like 372 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 8: I wrap a lot of artists, producers, creative companies, businesses. 373 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 8: But I'm not I'm not a traditional attorney, like I 374 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 8: think for me, I always saw law as a way 375 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 8: to like get into conversations that I probably wouldn't be 376 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 8: privy to understand the business from a high level. As 377 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 8: a lawyer, you see every contract, you see all the 378 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 8: back end of every business, Like you know, I know 379 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 8: what's going on at you know this label, I know 380 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 8: what's going on at that company. So I feel like 381 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 8: inside the trader and I'm just bringing it back to 382 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 8: the home team. That's how I feel. 383 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 384 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 6: I mean it's interesting because to lawyer, like you said, 385 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 6: to run a label. You have a competitive advantage being 386 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 6: a lawyer, because now it's like that's the number one thing, 387 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 6: Like a lawyer screwed me. I didn't know the business. 388 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: I can't say that if you're a lawyer, no fight 389 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 6: of playing with yourself. 390 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 8: We always talk about it too. It's like, you know, 391 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 8: I'm also a professor at Drexel, so I teach music business. 392 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 8: So our first combos are like, you know, vic to say, 393 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 8: he's like, you know, he's a business guy, not really 394 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 8: a music guy. Like he's like, yo, I do business 395 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 8: and you know, blast and artist. So obviously he knew 396 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 8: he knew a lot about the business. But you know, 397 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 8: our first year or two, you know, I was just 398 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 8: having we were just having master classes in the back yard. 399 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 8: Here's publishing, Like, here's how you collect all the royalties, 400 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 8: you know, here's how you distribute music all over And 401 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 8: you know we're doing the same education for all our employees. 402 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: So that that that's a big thing, right, So collecting publishing. 403 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 4: We always talk about publishing, but people don't talk about 404 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 4: how people get the money from it a lot. So 405 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 4: I know, like Askap is involved in that, So can 406 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: you break that down how people artists collect money from 407 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: the obviously the IP. 408 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, publishing is just a collection sport. It's like really 409 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 8: just collection. You think about publishing is just collection. So 410 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 8: you put the music out and then you collect your royalties. 411 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 8: And on the pub side, you know, you think about streaming, 412 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 8: there's a there's a publishing royalty that's generated every time 413 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 8: a song is streamed. Every single time you push play, 414 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 8: there's a publishing royalty generate. Every time songs played on 415 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 8: the radio, there's a publishing royalty generated. Then there's a 416 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 8: public performance, so every time a song is played in stadiums, hotels, 417 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 8: they should be licensing that music. So that's you realize 418 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 8: when you realize like where you're getting your publishing royalties. 419 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 8: You know, you could sort of create sounds and music 420 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 8: that that sort of appeals to those places, but but 421 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 8: that's really just that's publishing. It's just a collection sport. 422 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 8: And you know, I think most people think about publishing 423 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 8: from like a US standpoint, but it's really an international 424 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 8: game too. Like you know, they're playing your song in 425 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 8: South Korea, they're playing your song in Japan, they're playing 426 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 8: your song in China. You know, what's the collection side 427 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 8: over there? Like how do you collect your royalties and 428 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 8: all these foreign territories, so you need to I'm been 429 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 8: partner and I think we were, Like Warren has been 430 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 8: a great partner for a shout there, like Ryan Press, Wiless, 431 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 8: those guys. 432 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 6: So Ryan Leslie was talking about that with us, with 433 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 6: the international play, with the publishing and all that. So 434 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 6: for musical our so whole blast. You write music and 435 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 6: you sing right. So from my understanding, correct me if 436 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 6: I'm wrong, publishing goes to the the songwriter, producer. Fifty 437 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 6: percent goes to artists. 438 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 5: Is that correct? Man? 439 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: Not? 440 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 8: The fact that you know as much about publishing is 441 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 8: kind of crazy. 442 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 5: Think it too a few conversations. 443 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 8: Fifty percent goes to the songwriter, fifty percent goes to producer. 444 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 8: So like, if you're an artist who is putting out music, 445 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 8: you might not necessarily have any publishing if you didn't 446 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 8: write the song, you didnt produce, right, this is a 447 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 8: guy who writes and produces. So that's that's like a 448 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 8: published publisher's eyes. That's like the greatest person you ever see. 449 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 5: He's smiling within you'. 450 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 6: Let's talk about it, thank you, Let's talk about the music. 451 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 6: How did you? Yeah, you do everything right, So you 452 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 6: said that like from the producer from the singing to 453 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 6: the did you are you trained like that or you 454 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: just taught yourself. 455 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: I just taught myself. 456 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 11: I think just being bored because this was around of 457 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 11: time like when I got into music, I had moved 458 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 11: to the Ie, which is like an hour outside of 459 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 11: LA so I was at home a lot, Like I 460 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 11: wasn't really outside like that. I was just being a 461 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 11: nerd on YouTube, trying to figure out how to do everything, 462 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 11: and I just fell in love with the process over overall. 463 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 11: Like it didn't feel like I was working or learning. 464 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 11: It just felt like I was in the moment, you know. 465 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 11: So it kind of came natural to me to want 466 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 11: to produce and want to write and seeing people like 467 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 11: Ryan Leslie, seeing people like for real Kanye in the 468 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 11: studio jumping from the from the keyboard to jumping in 469 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 11: the booth, it was just like, I gotta be that 470 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 11: type of artist, hip boy from a Yeah, you know, 471 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 11: I didn't know I'm coming up now, but I just 472 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 11: find tanned for sure. 473 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: It's crazy when I saw you on the Freshman cover, right, 474 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 4: but I'm thinking, do you I mean you make music? 475 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's hip hop over, it's R 476 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: and B. It just feels like authentic music to a region. 477 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 4: Like when I hear your songs, I'm like, Yo, this 478 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: just sounds like West Coast, you know, sounding shoty. 479 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: On the way here. 480 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, it reminded me of like when I heard 481 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 4: like a guy like Donielle Jones, I'm like, Yo, that's 482 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 4: Atlanta for that time. So I'm wondering, like, when you're 483 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: making music, are you intentionally saying like I want to. 484 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 4: I want people to feel like where we're from, where 485 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: I'm from, I want them to have that vibe. 486 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 11: I think it's just naturally come out of me, like 487 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 11: just the natural influences, the DJ Quicks and Doctor J's. 488 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 11: I can't escape it. I don't think it's an intentional thing, 489 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 11: but I do feel like I intend to, you know, 490 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 11: keep the soul alive, like the love and the message 491 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 11: is intentional, like I try to speak on a positive 492 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 11: spectrum of things. Yeah, I would say my message is 493 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 11: more intentional. 494 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 6: Because it feels to me when I listen to it, 495 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 6: it feels like and it's why I use your captions 496 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 6: a lot, because it feels like rap in an R 497 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 6: and B it's not like Marvin Gay R and B. 498 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: It's like the new age R and B. Like you 499 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like it's it's. 500 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 6: Hip hop and I feel like, but that has more 501 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 6: because even if you look at Chris Brain, it's a 502 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 6: lot a lot of the new music as far as 503 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 6: on the R and B space, is in that vein 504 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 6: where it's like kind of a hybrid and some of 505 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 6: these dudes is really spind did so did you wrap 506 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 6: at all? 507 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 11: Absolutely? I feel like I came up rapping before I. 508 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 11: I was more insecure about my voice when I first 509 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 11: started making music. I didn't really get confident with putting 510 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 11: out like R and B type rap songs until my 511 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 11: voice developed, you feel me. But I'm a big rap 512 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 11: fan before anything. 513 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 4: You know when Again, when I'm listening to it, I'm like, yo, 514 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 4: I know this dude like grew up on nineties R 515 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 4: and B. Like I'm listening to it like I hit 516 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 4: it down now simple, I hit a case sample and 517 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm like, then I looked, I'm like born in ninety three, Like. 518 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't. 519 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 4: So where did you get the influence for the sound, right, 520 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: Because like I hear those simples I'm like, oh damn. 521 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: That reminded me of like when I was a teenager. 522 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: He was like four. There's no way. 523 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 10: Well, I'm the youngest, uh in my family. 524 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 11: I grew up with all older sisters, you know, so 525 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 11: that was the cheek cad. I pretty much just took 526 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 11: everything that was listening to and just incorporated into my music. 527 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 11: I feel like I give off my my taste. I 528 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 11: get it off of my sister. Like that's who I 529 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 11: used to look up to when it came to music. 530 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 6: So let's talk about the venture capital you guys investing 531 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 6: in companies. 532 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, shout out to Ryan Leslie too. I mean we 533 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 8: talked of Ryan. Uh. We were in London for like 534 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 8: blast first shoutout show out there, and. 535 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 5: Ryan somebody went there. 536 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 6: Really she was just put it on Instagram story and 537 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 6: I'm like a rock with his music saying I love 538 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 6: this guy. 539 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 5: I saw it. I actually saw the show from her Instagram. 540 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 5: That's hard. 541 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 8: When we were out there, Ryan Leslie was out there, 542 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 8: so I ended up meeting him at like one of 543 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 8: the one of like a hotel. We sat there in 544 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 8: the lobby for like an hour or two and just 545 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 8: chopped it up and I definitely say like in terms 546 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 8: of like converting like the culture in the capitol or 547 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 8: you know, converting culture in the commerce. Like I feel 548 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 8: like he's one of the He's the guy like right, 549 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 8: like turning music money into like legacy, like we know, 550 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 8: generational wealth building. So for us, it was you know 551 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 8: at this stage, I mean vic Vic kind of pointed 552 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 8: to it earlier, like you know, the fact that Blast 553 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 8: you know, owns the stuff, the fact that we have 554 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 8: you know, a partnership where we get overhead and we're 555 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 8: able to grow and scale. You know, we didn't want 556 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 8: to wait ten to fifteen years to start sort of 557 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 8: investing back in the community or investing in the products. 558 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 8: So a lot of stuff we invest in now is 559 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 8: stuff that we can impact, like you know, consumer products. 560 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 8: So it's like you know, a post that he could 561 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 8: post us we get throw like a party and we 562 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 8: can put some of our consumer products you know at 563 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 8: the party. Right, we could post it ourselves and generate 564 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 8: buzz for it, so we get a discount on equity 565 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 8: or like you know a company like rec Philly, shout out. 566 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 5: To those guys. 567 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 8: Yeah we invest in rec Philly. Yeah, we those guys 568 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 8: are really hard. But you know, they call itselves like 569 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 8: a gym for creatives, so talking about owning the whole process. 570 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 8: They got like the studios, they got the arts, they 571 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 8: got the design studios, they got the Live Nation stage, 572 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 8: they got like the coworking space. So it's like they're 573 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 8: the definition of vertical integration. Like you get your fifty 574 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 8: dollars membership and you can literally, you know, put out 575 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 8: a song and perform it at the place. So we're 576 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 8: just invested in companies that I think that that we 577 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 8: that we align with right now. But I think you 578 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 8: everybody when you get money, I think it becomes like 579 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 8: an M and a game at some point or a 580 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 8: private equity. You gotta you gotta start buying stuff that 581 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 8: that's in your field and that you can control. 582 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 5: You know, A sixteen Z. Yeah you're you're involved with that. 583 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 8: No, the Culture Fund, right, we're not involved, but you know. 584 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 5: Some people that can introduce you. Yeah, you're interested for sure. Yeah. 585 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 6: So that's that's how people megan. You know, Chris Lines 586 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 6: heard about them. We just had dinner with them the 587 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 6: other day. So they're good too because they obviously in 588 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 6: Nisha Harwich is like probably the biggest venture capital firm 589 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 6: in the world. So the Culture Leadership f I'm just 590 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 6: speaking to the audience. The Culture Leadership Fund is a 591 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 6: division of that get towards black people. For short explanation, 592 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 6: people like and entertainment world stuff like that. But so 593 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 6: they invest in all these companies, but then they bring 594 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 6: the side deals to you as well. So it's like 595 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 6: they'll invest in one hundred companies, but then you can 596 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 6: invest in individual companies as well. So we've invested in 597 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 6: like like probably four or five individual. 598 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a number seven on the world. 599 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 6: But the good thing with that is that they do 600 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 6: the research already, so it's like they already go through 601 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 6: a filter process. So by the time that they're investing 602 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 6: in nothing that in venture is guarantee. But it's like 603 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 6: they got to check off so many boxes for them 604 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 6: to invest in it. So it's like when they bring 605 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 6: it to you, it's like, you know, it's it's fully 606 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 6: vetted and. 607 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 4: It's one of those things where it's like young people, 608 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: young people of color can get into the space right 609 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 4: through a vetted process. 610 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: Right. 611 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: So obviously a lot of people in athletics and music 612 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: have capital or they have liquidation, have cashing, you know, 613 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: what to do with it, and so it gives an 614 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 4: opportunity to educate but also invest too. You set something 615 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: early blast about the content calendar, and I started thinking 616 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 4: as being as an independent label. Obviously the partnership with 617 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: Red Bull is it still that process when you're trying 618 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 4: to create a project. Obviously you just put out the 619 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 4: new project, But when you're creating it, it's like, Yo, 620 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: we have this mapped out, here's how we're going to 621 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: do it. Or it's like, Yo, it's just kind of 622 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: a vibe and I'm in the mood to create. 623 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 11: Nah, you're definitely still hands on everything, but we're still 624 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 11: scaling everything to like we just brought on creative Shout 625 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 11: Out Mayo, which is here right now. But I think 626 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 11: for me, it's more so about delegating to people that 627 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 11: I can trust, you know, so internally I have to 628 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 11: be hands on that ego. We have to be hands 629 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 11: on before we even get an approval from anything on 630 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 11: the other side, you know. 631 00:28:53,160 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 6: So yeah, how important is it to balance being an 632 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 6: artist and running a label, because it's like sometimes like 633 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 6: people are like, you know, the artist, they just want 634 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 6: to be artist. They got to be in an artistic 635 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 6: vibe and then the business people got to be in 636 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: their business vibe. So is there any obviously, you know, 637 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 6: all you guys work together, but for you particularly, do 638 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 6: you ever think about business too much? Or do you 639 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 6: think about art too much? 640 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 4: Like? 641 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: How is that balance it? It? Nah? I don't. 642 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 11: I feel like I found my balance, like just recently. 643 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 11: But again it goes into trusting you know, Carling vict 644 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 11: make it to where I can solely focus on the 645 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 11: music and they still give me updates on what's going on. 646 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 11: It's just like a funnel of information to where the 647 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 11: information is not too high or it's not too low. 648 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 11: It's like, you know, it's perfect for me to keep 649 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 11: my momentum because I think the most important thing is 650 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 11: the art. That's what's driving everything at the end of 651 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 11: the day, and that has to remain authentic, has to 652 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 11: remain genuine and intentionally for anything. 653 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 4: As he's creating the art, I guess, are you not 654 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 4: looking for the talent as well? 655 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: Right? 656 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 4: Like, what's that process like for y'all, because obviously this 657 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: is the main focus. 658 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 5: Is obviously a partner. 659 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 4: Are we looking for new talent to say, all right, 660 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: let's expand outside of just what we know? 661 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I'm not I wouldn't say like were 662 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 12: scouring the earth like for the next class. But I 663 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 12: think we take it as it all comes to us. 664 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 12: I mean a lot of these things come naturally. Synergy 665 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 12: is created naturally. I mean, the essence of our company 666 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,479 Speaker 12: in general is not nothing is like fabricated. So I 667 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 12: think just even creating these relationships with artists and understanding 668 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 12: like the values and the morals that we have as 669 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 12: a company, it's kind of like some of the stuff 670 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 12: is them there like out of bounds for it just 671 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 12: because like they morality don't line up with the business 672 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 12: ethics or the business acumen that we have. But I 673 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 12: think in every area we're looking to expand. No, I 674 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 12: mean I think that's how we stay competitive. I mean 675 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 12: that's how Blast stays fresh as a businessman. I think 676 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 12: that's that's probably like one of the most I mean 677 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 12: bringing up me speaking as a manager, like working with 678 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 12: an artist and actually seeing like, ah, this is like 679 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 12: your real potential and then let's see what happens when 680 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 12: we actually load it up and really try to take 681 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 12: it to the take it to the finish line, and 682 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 12: when you actually get that. I mean I feel like 683 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 12: that that side relief is damn there. Like, Okay, I 684 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 12: did it one time, but it's damn there. Like you 685 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 12: see all these people out here trying to achieve this 686 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 12: music goal, and it damners seemed unachievable when you see 687 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 12: how much music get put out every day and stuff 688 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 12: like that, and how many artists are trying to actually 689 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 12: reach that ceiling. So I think for us, but going 690 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 12: back to the original point, just as far as like 691 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 12: building scaling, I think in every area, we're trying to 692 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 12: definitely max out our potential. 693 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 6: Talk about artist management, that's something that a lot of 694 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 6: people don't fully understand why it's important, what the responsibilities 695 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 6: of a manager is. 696 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, talking about that. 697 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, But like I said earlier, I played football, So 698 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 12: I played middle linebacker in college. So I called all 699 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 12: the plays. So I'm getting three hundred and fifty pounds 700 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 12: defensive linement lined up right, So it's not I mean, 701 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 12: I feel like this is very synonymous with that, like 702 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 12: talking to employees, making sure that we actually delegating tasks properly, 703 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 12: and then just accountability, like I mean, a lot of 704 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 12: I would say it's multiple different types of managers, but 705 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 12: like I'm a manager, but I also look at myself 706 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 12: as more so like I operate more in that president role. 707 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 12: I guess you could say, but it's just about me. 708 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 12: I get up there, Mary five thirty every day. But 709 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 12: I'm used to that because of sports. I'm used to 710 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 12: that because of the team stuff. And then also just 711 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 12: challenging blasts and making him uncomfortable before anybody else can 712 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 12: make him uncomfortable, having those uncomfortable conversations, like me and 713 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 12: him that have multiple one on one sit downs where 714 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 12: it's just like we're working through stuff and just growing pains, 715 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 12: just building a friendship, building a business, doing that manager 716 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 12: artist relationship. So I think that just as much as 717 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 12: the artist is invested in themself and trying to sharpen 718 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 12: their tools, like I gotta do the same exact thame too, Carl. 719 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 4: You said internationally known as a as a entertainment attorney. 720 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 4: And I heard obviously the show in London, London, and 721 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: so it makes me think about the strategic plan to 722 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: have him become a global artist. A lot of times 723 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: people create locally, and the sound states local. What metrics, 724 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 4: what analytics are you using to say, like, all right, 725 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 4: London is a place we can go or the next 726 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 4: international city is the place we can go. 727 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 5: How that? How did that happen? Man? 728 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 8: I think London chose blast for sure, Like I think 729 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 8: outside of LA I don't want to. I know we 730 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 8: have metrics to back it up. I think London is 731 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 8: probably a second on. Like we go out to London, 732 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 8: it's like, you know, it's crazy. So I think the 733 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 8: like you know, the listening metrics Spotify, Apple Music, SoundCloud 734 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 8: that told us that London was was the top market 735 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 8: outside of LA and then you put up a show 736 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 8: link and it sells out like this. That also tells 737 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 8: you Okay, nah, this is crazy. But you think about 738 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 8: like you know, London is a really black city. Like London, 739 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 8: there's like you know, it's like the Africa pipeline doesn't 740 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 8: really start in America. It's like you go out to London, 741 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 8: it's like, you know, everybody is from Ghana or in 742 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 8: Nigeria and you know, so so it felt like, you know, 743 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 8: we haven't been to Africa and we playing we're going 744 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 8: this year, but it felt like a bridge to Africa, 745 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 8: like you know that that's what London feels. 746 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 5: Like for me. 747 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 10: So everybody out there is first generation, first generation, a. 748 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 6: Lot of immigrant we did a show in London. It 749 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 6: was amazing, and London and energy out there, like you said, 750 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 6: is different because they when you're an immigrant, you have 751 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 6: a different level of psyche. I feel like, I mean, 752 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 6: like your parents is just teaching you just to fit 753 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 6: into society, and then they're looking at us and the 754 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 6: way that we're doing things. They're kind of like renegade 755 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 6: to the whole situation. So it gets not only educa 756 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 6: but inspiration and motivation as well. So it's like, you know, 757 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 6: in like Toronto, Canada is another one. It was just 758 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 6: like places where there's a lot of black people, but 759 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 6: they they don't have that scene like in America. We 760 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 6: take a lot of things for granted because we've been here, 761 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So it's like, you know, 762 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 6: of course there's issues with America, but it's like the 763 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 6: opportunities that we have in America, a lot of people 764 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 6: don't have those opportunities in different places. So it's like 765 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,800 Speaker 6: even from a music standpoint, like it's harder to break 766 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 6: out of Toronto and London, like Drake has done it 767 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 6: and a few artists have done it, but look at 768 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 6: those artists compared to hundreds and thousands of artists that 769 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 6: have done it in America, right, Like there's still not 770 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 6: really a huge rapper Like Central Sea is making headway, 771 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 6: but think about it's still not really a huge South 772 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 6: to gigs. But nobody has become Drake out of London ever, 773 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 6: Like that's kind of crazy if you think about it. 774 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, now that's a fact. I mean nobody has come like. 775 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 8: But I also to say, like, I think like art 776 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 8: just comes from like a broken fabric, and I think, 777 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 8: you know, the best art comes from America. And I 778 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 8: think like, you know, you think about the generations of 779 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 8: hurt and pain, and you know you think about Las 780 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 8: you know, South Central, the riots to you know, the 781 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 8: way black people came here, the way you know, people 782 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 8: lost their property. 783 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 5: Right. 784 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 8: I was, I was looking at looking up Oakwood, right, 785 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 8: Oakwood and Venice, and I was like, you know, people's 786 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 8: owning their homes. It was like a real black place. 787 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 8: And you know, you go to Venice, now you go 788 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 8: to Oakwood, it's like the population the black population dropped 789 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 8: from like thirty five to like sixteen percent. And that's 790 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 8: the best realt that's one of that's some of the 791 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 8: best real estate in LA. It's Venice, like, right, near 792 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 8: the water, right near the airport. So I think art 793 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 8: is kind of like a I think the reason why 794 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 8: some of those not saying there's no, there's not a 795 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 8: struggle in London because there is, obviously, but like you know, 796 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 8: it feels like black people in America have kind of 797 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 8: been leading, like the the global civil rights movement for 798 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 8: the longest of time and challenging everything, and I think 799 00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 8: the art's reflective of that. 800 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 5: No, that's a fact. That's a fact. 801 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 6: So as far as partnerships, right, you guys obviously have 802 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 6: a partnership with Red Bull, but you have any other 803 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 6: partnerships and his partnerships and collaborations part of your strategy moving. 804 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 12: Forward, absolutely, I mean, I think that's that's the baseline 805 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 12: of everything planning on given just giving the keys to anybody, 806 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 12: especially the foundation we set up to this point, like 807 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 12: we already Carl mentioned it earlier. We had every single 808 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 12: music label exec every chairman tell us like, you can't 809 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 12: record radio single at Red Bull, You're not gonna be 810 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 12: able to achieve these numbers, blah blah blah blah blah. 811 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 12: And I just was like, shit, hang up in the 812 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 12: middle of the and they faced like you're not gonna 813 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 12: tell me what we can and cannot do learn But 814 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 12: I think, I mean, at this point, we didn't we 815 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 12: didn't shot all those all those records down, like we 816 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 12: checked off every box that they said an artist and 817 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 12: the independent structure could check. And I think that's heavily 818 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 12: based off the fact that we are the culture and 819 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 12: we come with the culture, and there's these these relationships 820 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 12: that we've procured. 821 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 5: Rather it be Kendrick Lamar, rather it be nas. 822 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 12: Rather it be Rick Ross, like they all organic through 823 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 12: some type of network channel that we already pretty just had. 824 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 12: So as we continue to do that, I mean, I 825 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 12: think that with the partnership situation, I think everybody understands 826 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 12: going in the business with Eagle, like that's what it's. 827 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 5: Gonna be when I'm in black space. Like that was 828 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 5: the brunch on Sunday. 829 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 4: Til Sunday Man, I mean, Grammy nominated. Did we not 830 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 4: say that at the side of the show. We did 831 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 4: not myself. We got to knowledge that, Man, Grammy nominated obviously, 832 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 4: you know you've been grinding obviously from l A so 833 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 4: to be Grammy nominated for you know, so with with Kendrick, 834 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 4: I mean, what was that like for the label right, 835 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 4: this is there's three guys obviously from employees. But you're like, yo, damn, 836 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: we've been in this game maybe five six years. We 837 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 4: already not made it for something. 838 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 5: What was that? Like, I want to hear your perspective 839 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 5: of this. 840 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 8: To be honest with you, I don't think it mattered, 841 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 8: to be honest, Like, I literally don't think we were 842 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 8: we It's cool. I think some people want us to 843 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 8: be happier, but it's like, I think the fabric of Eagles, 844 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 8: like you know, we already believe, Like to even look 845 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 8: at a record label and be like, we're not signing 846 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 8: with y'all because we know the music is good. We 847 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 8: know we got these relationships, it kind of just takes 848 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 8: a different type of confidence and faith. So I think 849 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 8: we just you feel like that's just a not that's 850 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 8: a part of the process, and we want to win it. 851 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 8: Like it's like cool the nomination don't but it's like, yo, 852 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 8: we want to win it. 853 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 5: I definitely thought that was going to be the answer. 854 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 8: You said, well, and that's the other We kind of 855 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 8: all this like it's a good and bad thing. I think, 856 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 8: you know, we do it in different ways, but like 857 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 8: we're literally all kind of the same, Like the fabric 858 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 8: of the company is like, you know, we're definitely not 859 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 8: the We're not We're not going to go into office 860 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 8: and get hold you know what I'm saying, when they're 861 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 8: not gonna come and tell us lies and it's not 862 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 8: us like all three of us. Like he might be 863 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 8: quiet about it, you know, Vic might be louder about it. 864 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 8: You know, I might be more suit and tigh about it. 865 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 8: But we all like the same fabric. We're gonna own 866 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 8: this shit like regardless. 867 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 6: So, like you spoke about Kendrick, do you guys have 868 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 6: any inspirations as far as looking at labels like a 869 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 6: TD or like you know whatever, Like no, right, do 870 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 6: you guys get mentorship from any of those people? 871 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,760 Speaker 5: And do you guys like look. 872 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 6: At those type of people where it's like, all right, 873 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,760 Speaker 6: this is something we can use and kind of model 874 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 6: some things out there. 875 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 12: I wouldn't say like mentorship to be honest with you. 876 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 12: I mean, that's no disrespect to nobody, But I just 877 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 12: think that even the way when we came in I 878 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 12: mean the state of Law one, we did that deal 879 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 12: in the pandemic, So in the state of Music in 880 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 12: Los Angeles was so different from when Blast was starting 881 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 12: to really like create that large buzz that the whole 882 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 12: sound of everything. It was going from like gang bang 883 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 12: Ratchet to smooth my locky. So it was like that 884 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 12: transition to category yeah ratchet, but you know, just that transition, 885 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 12: I think that it changed everything. 886 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 5: I mean, music changed, people moved how they move around. 887 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 12: You started to see people just in different pockets, people 888 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 12: trying to make different type of music. 889 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 5: More positive music. 890 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 12: And I think Blass definitely set the tone to make 891 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 12: that cool outside of people like Kailin for real being 892 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 12: o Rideault. 893 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 6: Well, I think that there is a pocket of like 894 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 6: Sir Boogie Blast. I feel like it's kind of in 895 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 6: a similar type of coming out of California. Like it's 896 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 6: like a new R and B hip hop infusion type. 897 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: Even like I was, I was thinking, like, yo, who 898 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 4: has that l A R and B? And I'm like, 899 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 4: it's a couple, like you just named some Klane that 900 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 4: that sound. 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I mean both they companies are 969 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 12: real business terms mean all money in and OPM, like 970 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,319 Speaker 12: those are two of the paces of business. So when 971 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 12: you think about that, and that's right in front of 972 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 12: your face, you kind of get inspired inadvertently, even just 973 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 12: just watching their program, how they moved around, how they operate, 974 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 12: and how they stood on it too. 975 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 6: The demonstration that's so y'all from South Central y'all y'all 976 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 6: did y'all no NIP at all? 977 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 2: No. 978 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 12: I never knew n personally, but I definitely, I mean 979 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 12: I grew up. 980 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 5: I feel like you know, God right, the energy for sure? 981 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 6: How was the energy in LA like because we got 982 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 6: the it kind of hit New York like Victory Lap 983 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 6: like that's when he became big in the East Coast. 984 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,759 Speaker 6: But that was obviously the end of the situation. So 985 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 6: how was it like what the bullets had no names, 986 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 6: Mike tapes and all that like that came. 987 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 5: Out like my junior year in high school. 988 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 12: So I mean, you see the video like niit first 989 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 12: video the Hustle in the House, You're like, damn, like 990 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,320 Speaker 12: everybody know that gas station on Crimshaw and Slass and 991 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 12: so you like, oh my god, hundreds and hundreds of 992 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 12: people out here, like I wouldn't want to get no 993 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 12: gas that day, right, But I think just the im 994 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 12: media impact in it, it was just like, Damn, you 995 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 12: got somebody that's that is rapping and that sounds like 996 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 12: la but the production value is so high that it 997 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 12: was like this is actually like tasteful and I can 998 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 12: actually rock with this. 999 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 10: Aside from all the crazy business stuff he was. 1000 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 4: Doing already, you said one of the verticals obviously is 1001 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 4: you said the publishing company, I got the songwriters, which 1002 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 4: fashion is one of those things that's listed. 1003 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 5: What's the plans for that? 1004 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 12: I mean we got to merch partnership, So another another 1005 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 12: partnership on the table. And I think again early on 1006 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 12: Blast being so creative and understanding how to really kind 1007 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 12: of like conjure up a vision and consistency through branding, 1008 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 12: like he was doing stuff that he didn't even understand 1009 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 12: that he was doing, right, And I'm just like, Damn, 1010 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 12: somebody made you like a color pardor like a color 1011 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,719 Speaker 12: code or something like how you coming up with all 1012 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 12: of this, And it was really just so natural that 1013 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,160 Speaker 12: when we started moving forward and making this merch, we 1014 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 12: walked into all these meetings showing like, we've already sold 1015 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 12: x amount of merch independently, We've already did all this 1016 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 12: so that, you know, you got to kind of have 1017 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 12: a proof of concept when you want to have ownership 1018 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 12: of all this stuff. So when we walked in with 1019 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 12: proof of concepts and showing that this is our merch business, 1020 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 12: this is the merchandising factory work with, this is how 1021 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 12: fast we can produce merch, they didn't have no problem 1022 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 12: handing that over to us. And I think now in this 1023 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 12: stage our tour merching goes so crazy that it's like, 1024 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 12: I think our big focus this year is just making 1025 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 12: sure that consistently year around that even when we're not 1026 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 12: on the road, that our merch business is growing in 1027 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 12: every single space from our product way, from product to 1028 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 12: the delivery to the packaging, even down just to the 1029 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 12: customer experience. 1030 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 6: So you said your tour and being on the road 1031 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 6: obvious that's a major part of any artist's career. 1032 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 5: Do you do. 1033 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 6: That yourself as far as devenizel or do you work 1034 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 6: with somebody like Live Nation to help out with that. 1035 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 12: Yeah, we did our whole list tour with Live Nation. 1036 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 12: We got William Morris Entertainment as our agency. Shout out 1037 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 12: to both of them. They did a super do job. 1038 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 5: Okay, So are you hands on with that or you 1039 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 5: just let them just. 1040 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,240 Speaker 10: Hands were approving. We're approving every stop. 1041 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,839 Speaker 12: Were approving pretty much how we're doing it, the capacity, 1042 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 12: I mean, but that's why we chose them as a 1043 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 12: partner too, right like, because we respect their opinion, we 1044 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 12: trust what they've already done in the game, and they 1045 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 12: coming to us and really like teaching us and mentoring 1046 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 12: us how to be able to move through this world 1047 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 12: because we're getting money together. 1048 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 10: So it's not like it's usually beneficial for both parties. 1049 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 4: And when you're looking at them deals that we're looking 1050 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 4: at line item like yo, we need percentage of the 1051 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 4: if there's a bar in the venue, we need percentage 1052 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 4: of concessions. 1053 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 3: We're doing all this Yeah. 1054 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 8: No, we definitely did. I mean, you know, every venue 1055 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 8: has a different like you know merch raise. It's like 1056 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 8: some venues are like, yo, we need twenty percent of 1057 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 8: the merchant some five. Yeah, we went through all that 1058 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 8: and you can't sell it, yeah, or you can't sell it. 1059 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 6: That stuff that even like so when we do it, 1060 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 6: we do it on ourselves and that stuff that we 1061 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 6: had to learn because so we have a big festival 1062 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 6: called Investments in Atlanta, right, and that's at the Georgia 1063 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 6: World Congress Center, a venue like that. We just we 1064 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 6: bought a venue for the weekend and we control a venue, 1065 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 6: so we sell merch. Whatever we do, we get one 1066 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 6: hundred percent. But then we do an event at MSG 1067 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 6: and that's a ticket Master event. So then it's like, 1068 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 6: all right, well it's twenty percent that you got to 1069 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 6: give to them. They got to sell a merch for you. 1070 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 6: It's a bunch of different things, and it's like even 1071 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 6: with getting paid, we had to learn that because it's 1072 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 6: like going back to GWCC. We set the ticket thing 1073 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 6: up ourselves and it's daily deposits that come in. Ain't 1074 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 6: time somebody buys a ticket. The next day we get 1075 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 6: paid from that, which is good because if you're funding 1076 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 6: something yourself, then you need the money. But then it's 1077 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 6: like a ticket Master venue, we don't get paid until 1078 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 6: like thirty days after the event, which you just got 1079 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:01,879 Speaker 6: to be able to budget that because it's like, all right, 1080 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 6: you're not going to get this money until it's over, 1081 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 6: so make sure you got money on reserve. This is 1082 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 6: stuff that you don't really you don't really know unless 1083 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 6: you actually are in it and doing it. 1084 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 4: Learn we're trying to put net now into the contrast, 1085 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 4: ninety is over like a whole different year. 1086 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 5: But put that ninety in. 1087 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 4: I think the most thing, most obviouslynything is going to 1088 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 4: happen is that you're gonna forget. Yeah, it's like three 1089 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 4: months later and you've got so many things happen. 1090 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 5: It's like, wait, what happened? 1091 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 6: Did we get the ninety Yeah, so we're trying to 1092 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,120 Speaker 6: work on the net now now. 1093 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 8: I think the net thing is like the core of 1094 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 8: the problem with the music business. 1095 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 5: Right. 1096 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 8: It's like, you know, if more teams have liquidity, right, 1097 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 8: money in their pocket now, like they wouldn't have to 1098 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 8: do so many bad deals. But like publishers and back 1099 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 8: end sport, it takes nine months to collect. Like Chosen 1100 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 8: could be at radio number one, but you're not getting 1101 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 8: that money right now, nine months away. 1102 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 5: You know what's so crazy? All y'all. How old are y'all? Thirty? Thirty? 1103 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty, that's crazy. 1104 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 5: So we're not that far off in age. But so 1105 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 5: there's a different generation for them, but it's not that far. 1106 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 6: But so ghost Face got one of the best lines 1107 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 6: of all time when he was like, waiting on these 1108 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 6: royalties take too long. 1109 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 5: It's like waiting on babies. 1110 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 8: Like it's like it almost makes you have to take 1111 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 8: in advance right in our industry, and advance can be paralyzing. 1112 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 8: Like you take advance and now all of a sudden, 1113 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 8: your business is compromised at so many different levels because 1114 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 8: you got to pay that back, you have less freedom. 1115 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 8: So I think like real time royalty payouts, like you 1116 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 8: think about the next technologies in the industry and change 1117 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 8: things for creators. I think that's the sort of. 1118 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 6: Real time royalty. So that is that anything? Like is 1119 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 6: that blockchain technology? 1120 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 8: I think it is blockchain. 1121 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:45,879 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1122 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 8: I talked a lot about how that was what I 1123 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 8: saw blockchain. You know, everybody had their sort of theories 1124 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 8: on what blockchain is going to help. But as related 1125 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 8: to the music industry, I thought it was going to 1126 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 8: help in two places. I thought metadata, right, like painting 1127 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 8: a record you know, a lot of people don't get 1128 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 8: because songwriter splits are off the information is not at 1129 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 8: one spot, and it's not you know, there's no chaining record. 1130 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,920 Speaker 8: So I thought, you know, blockchain would help with that 1131 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 8: and then real time royalty payouts. But you know, so 1132 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 8: much stuff lives off chain that like you know, when 1133 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 8: I see like an NFT go up for like a 1134 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 8: music royalty, that's a joke, Like that's exactly, it's a joke, 1135 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 8: Like you're never gonna get paid because we're all not 1136 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 8: getting paid from the record label. Like you got your 1137 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 8: own twenty percent of a song that you're not going 1138 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 8: to get royalties from because you got to go do 1139 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 8: the same royalty process we do. So when things go 1140 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 8: on chain, when I think, like you know, we actually 1141 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 8: get stuff like faster, it's gonna be it's gonna that's 1142 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 8: gonna be the truer creator economy in my. 1143 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 4: Is that the vision for the publishing company that you're creating, 1144 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 4: right because at some point, like you're the company that 1145 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 4: is now collecting all this data, right, right, So is 1146 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 4: it to now see the flaw in the system and say, 1147 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 4: all right, here's how we can correct it. 1148 00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you got I think, like it's definitely 1149 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 8: not a goal right now, just because like you know, 1150 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 8: we'd have to go to foreign territories and establish that 1151 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,280 Speaker 8: collection relationship. People do though, Like there's been pub companies 1152 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,960 Speaker 8: that started and like, yo, I'm gonna go to South Korea, 1153 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 8: but you're gonna have to like go to South Korea 1154 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 8: and like sit down and you're gonna have to go 1155 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 8: to Italy and talk to like the people over there 1156 00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,319 Speaker 8: in Germany and develop that one and one like here's here's 1157 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 8: our license, here's our collecting. So it's not feasible, So 1158 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 8: which is why there's like sort of a monopoly on 1159 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 8: publishing because whoever has those relationships already, You're just like 1160 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to y'all, who's gonna charge me the 1161 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 8: less to collect? 1162 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 3: Who's taking the smallest percentage? 1163 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 8: He was taking the smallest percentage. But you think about it, 1164 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,720 Speaker 8: and it's like, you know, if payments become a royalty, 1165 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 8: calculations become a little bit more streamlined, then we can 1166 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 8: see what money's out there, because you know, the technology 1167 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 8: allows us to see it. It's an interesting time. 1168 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 3: Y'all can be bringing off in South Africa right now. 1169 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 8: Right now, we know how much money we make in 1170 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 8: and all that sort of stuff. 1171 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting to see how Web three is really 1172 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 6: going to affect the music business. And this is another 1173 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 6: conversation that we was having on Chris Lines all the 1174 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:00,879 Speaker 6: night when he was it's just like even talking about 1175 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 6: like crypto, right, and he was like, right now, everybody's 1176 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 6: looking at things singular, and it's gonna make more sense 1177 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 6: when it's looked at as a collective. So as opposed 1178 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 6: to saying like, okay, crypto is separate from you know, 1179 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 6: NFTs is separate from AI. It all got to work together. 1180 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 6: So the analogy that he gave was actually pretty brilliant 1181 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 6: where he was like, okay, like GPS, right, GPS is 1182 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 6: a technology within itself, payment processing systems is a technology 1183 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 6: within itself, and then the cell phone is a technology 1184 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 6: within itself. But nobody realizes that Uber is a combination 1185 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 6: of all of it, right, Like Uber, there's no Uber. 1186 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 5: Without GPS, which but it just has to work. 1187 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 6: It's integrated in it, right, and then you need the 1188 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 6: payment processing system to work with the GPS. 1189 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 5: It's on your cell phone. Now you create Uber right. 1190 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 6: Where it's like there's no Uber without GPS technology, but 1191 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,439 Speaker 6: you're not just looking at like GPS is its own 1192 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 6: separate entity, right. GPS is really integrated in everything that 1193 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 6: we do. You don't even realize that a great and 1194 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,240 Speaker 6: everything that we do. Right, So it's like once the crypto, 1195 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 6: and then once the blockchain, and once the AI, all 1196 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 6: of that gets integrated in everything now, like you said, 1197 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 6: like real time royalty payments and different things of that nature. 1198 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 5: Like it's all going to make a lot more sense. 1199 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 6: I feel like we have the beginning stages and it's 1200 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 6: not making a lot of sense. But once it really 1201 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 6: starts to get a little bit more streamlined integrated, all 1202 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 6: of this new technology is going to make a lot 1203 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 6: more sense and make it a lot more efficient. 1204 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1205 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 8: I don't know what song that was when it was 1206 00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 8: remember what's song and nip going like that ran at 1207 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 8: the end of the song about new technology. 1208 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 12: That song the box money, Yeah yeah, my big businesses 1209 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 12: found stuffy Yeah yeah, yeah, it was distinctly I was 1210 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 12: a freshman in Washington. 1211 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 6: How you feel about how you feel about AI because 1212 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 6: we see this stuff where like they had an eminem 1213 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,600 Speaker 6: song you see that, Yeah, and they used the voice 1214 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 6: and it sounds just like an Eminem song. 1215 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 8: I was literally on CNN talking about AI and music, 1216 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 8: like and AI has a too great. We've been using 1217 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 8: AI to create music more efficiently and faster for a 1218 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 8: long time now. Like a lot of the products that 1219 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 8: producers and songwriters use to put out music quickly is 1220 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 8: AI driven. But you know generative pure generative AI music. Right, 1221 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 8: So like actually like feeding you know the machine, like 1222 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 8: machine learning technology, feeding it songs from Eminem, Travis Scott 1223 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 8: and then it producing a sound an original song that 1224 00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 8: is based off that work. It it poses so many 1225 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 8: legal issues that. 1226 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 5: It's not like it was a producer. 1227 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 4: They were like, yo, let's put Timberland for real, and 1228 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 4: let's make beats. And it made like seventy beats in 1229 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 4: the house. 1230 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,880 Speaker 8: Fit you just feed it to the machine and just 1231 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 8: put spits out of. 1232 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 6: Beat GBTV like all right, sing me a song in 1233 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 6: a sad mood with the Louisiana accent and it'll come out. 1234 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 4: Or I can take Blast's voice and I could be 1235 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 4: the person singing it and it's his voice. 1236 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 5: Fit on my body. 1237 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 6: They had a djin, I think it was one of 1238 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 6: these DJs. They played the record and it was like 1239 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 6: one hundred thousand people there and it was like and 1240 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 6: they thought it was a new record, like know what 1241 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 6: I mean? They didn't even know, like this was just 1242 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 6: an AI driven So as an artist, how you cause 1243 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 6: that's kind of scary, Like, you know, art is supposed 1244 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 6: to be curated by you know, it's a lot. How 1245 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 6: do you feel about a machine just making art? 1246 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 5: That's scary. 1247 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,040 Speaker 11: It's scary, It's like and then it is becoming so 1248 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 11: real you can't even tell the difference. So it's just 1249 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 11: I don't know, it's mind boggling for me. 1250 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a fact. So do you still practice law? 1251 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 6: Like are you still all right? You're running a label? 1252 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 6: Are you still are you the lawyer for the label 1253 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 6: as well? 1254 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, but we don't we don't have much like EA, 1255 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 8: sure for sure, Like you know, I handle you know, 1256 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 8: our contracts and stuff like that, like protecting file for trademarks, 1257 00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 8: copyrights for sure. I also think we're definitely bringing some 1258 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 8: some people on for that. But yeah, I still operate 1259 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 8: the Folks firm in downtown Newark, and I have an 1260 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 8: associate attorney. I have offered manager, so I still take 1261 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 8: on some new business, but I've kind of transformed that 1262 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 8: practice practice to more of a like advocacy process practice, 1263 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 8: like how can I like do some cool stuff in 1264 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 8: law to like I'm taking expungement cases like stuff like 1265 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 8: that just to kind of keep my just make an impact. 1266 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 5: It's also it's also a good network. You know Vernon Brown. 1267 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 8: I heard Vernon Brown. I think it's a teacher Pace exactly. 1268 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, so Vernon Brown, he's I knew him my whole 1269 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 6: life actually, but he's Cash Money's lawyer. Yeah, and one 1270 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 6: of the most respected in the music business for a 1271 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,439 Speaker 6: long time. But he's he's an adjunct professor at Pace 1272 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 6: teaches law. But it's a great networking tool and it's 1273 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 6: a great way to kind of stay sharp and you 1274 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:49,480 Speaker 6: meet a variety of different people by still practicing, still teaching, 1275 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,479 Speaker 6: and it all. 1276 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 8: Comes together, you know, you know what deals are happening. 1277 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 8: It's like it's just so much of a benefit for 1278 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 8: my other business if I know, like, oh, this is 1279 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 8: what the ar curator is, like, this is what this 1280 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 8: is what this guy signed a record a record contract for. 1281 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 8: It's like, you know, I feel like that information is invaluable. 1282 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 4: So as a professor, right, he said, your professor Addrexel 1283 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 4: Yep from a standpoint of creating curriculum, what are the 1284 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 4: things that you're seeing from your students are like, Yo, 1285 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 4: these are the things that they want to know versus 1286 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 4: these are the things that you should know. 1287 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 8: Man, I'll be honest. Teaching the music business program, they 1288 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 8: want to know hip hop. Like the business of hip 1289 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 8: hop and black culture is like the strongest thing ever. 1290 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 8: Like they have curriculum. My class is probably the hottest 1291 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 8: class at Drexel because every semester I'm bringing in guests, 1292 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 8: like and they just want to hear from like tier 1293 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 8: Tierra Wax manager or whoever the hot artist is at 1294 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 8: that time. And those kids are producers, They're on fruity loops, 1295 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 8: they're like making beats. So I think it just gives 1296 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 8: me like insight on like how strong black culture is 1297 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 8: and how strong hip hop is because those kids at Dredful, 1298 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 8: they really want to work in the industry, to kind 1299 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 8: of work in work on hip hop projects. 1300 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 6: I want to get all you guys perspective on this. 1301 01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 6: Academic says something recently that got a lot of attention. 1302 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 6: He said that hip hop is becoming more and more 1303 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 6: regional and not global, where like afro beats is becoming 1304 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 6: is a global form of music, and he was like, 1305 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 6: you know, hip hop is becoming a regional art form, 1306 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 6: not global. 1307 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 5: What's your thoughts on that? Going first, I think. 1308 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 12: I mean, I think one. So we just we just 1309 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 12: went on tour at the end of the year. We 1310 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 12: damned the tour the last six months. We had an 1311 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 12: Australian leg of tour, we had a European portion of 1312 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 12: the tour, and then we had obviously domestic but just 1313 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 12: just talking about those international plays for the most part, 1314 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 12: like Carl was saying, like Africa, Nigeria five hour flight 1315 01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 12: from London, so that's New York to LA So it's 1316 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 12: like being able to tap in with European markets. All 1317 01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:01,120 Speaker 12: these Caribbean descendants and all these first generation African millennials 1318 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 12: and stuff like that that are in our age bracket 1319 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 12: that's moving around the world. 1320 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 10: It's like they're servicing more of a global market anyway. 1321 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 12: But on the back end of it, it's like all 1322 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 12: of this is really the essence of it is poor 1323 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 12: from American hip hop culture. So it's like, I don't 1324 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 12: ever think that hip hop can become regional because all 1325 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 12: you hear in London is a version of drill music. 1326 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 5: That's all you hear. 1327 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 12: So it's like you can't really say hip hop is 1328 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 12: becoming at all regional because we were in New Zealand 1329 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 12: and like it was a girl trying to rap for us, 1330 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 12: Like it was a New Zealand girl trying to rap 1331 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,760 Speaker 12: for us, and she literally was trying to rap like 1332 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 12: the city girls. 1333 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 10: And it's like, that's not that's not. 1334 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 12: Even like that, remember that, Like we were sitting there 1335 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 12: having a conversation but at a restaurant, like, well, that's 1336 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,800 Speaker 12: not too like, it's not it's not even gonna work 1337 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,160 Speaker 12: like your accident all that when we started talking where 1338 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,080 Speaker 12: you dress, none of it adds up with what you're 1339 01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 12: trying to portray. So I never from the way that 1340 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 12: people in the way that American accents are mimicked in 1341 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 12: the UK and every other part of the world, like 1342 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 12: people grow up practicing this and watching our TV shows 1343 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 12: and pretty much you talked about Central C Central C 1344 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 12: number one line about Dosi Cat, you know what I mean, 1345 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,720 Speaker 12: like everybody quoting that. So I don't think at all 1346 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 12: it is really become a regional. Now is the message 1347 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 12: starting to become repetitive? I do think that some of 1348 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 12: the message in hip hop is starting to become repetitive. 1349 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 12: But I feel that's a whole nother conversation. 1350 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 8: I would say, I feel like music itself is always regional. 1351 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,520 Speaker 8: I think like only a certain level of song breaks 1352 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 8: through anyway, right, like twenty years ago, like I think 1353 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 8: probably pro Ada, like the same amount of songs we're 1354 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,120 Speaker 8: breaking through from hip hop culture, like fifty cent in 1355 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,760 Speaker 8: the Club, Like we still got those records now, But 1356 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 8: like hip hop's regional, like it is, like it's just 1357 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 8: a regional game, but every genre is regional. Like you 1358 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 8: go to Brazil, they got their reasonal touch, but only 1359 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,440 Speaker 8: a certain bracket of those songs break through ely right, 1360 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 8: it's the same thing. Yeah, I think I think only 1361 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 8: a small fraction of songs from hip hop have breaking 1362 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,080 Speaker 8: through globally. That's been the history of hip hop. 1363 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 11: Yeah sure, yeah, I kind of agree with what Carl said, 1364 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 11: even just traveling, like going to Europe and stuff, seeing 1365 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 11: how it's artists that you never heard of, but you 1366 01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,440 Speaker 11: you'll look them up. See they following their the biggest 1367 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,440 Speaker 11: thing in that one section. So in a sense, I 1368 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 11: feel like hip hop is regional and music is just 1369 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 11: in a weird space, like we just we just want 1370 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 11: change right now. It's like we're feeding for something new. 1371 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,560 Speaker 11: So anything that's off the ward, left field, we just 1372 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 11: hold on to it, like yeah, this, this is it. 1373 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 11: This is the next thing, you know what I'm saying. 1374 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I feel like and it comes in ways too, right. 1375 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 6: It's like right now, Reggaetny's is huge, you know because 1376 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 6: a lot of the artists Bad Bunny and Well and all. 1377 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 6: I mean, it's a language barrier as well, because Spanish 1378 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 6: is spoken in half the world's population, so that gives 1379 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 6: them an advantage. The Afro Beaches is on the rise 1380 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 6: right now. It is spreading, and I feel like hip 1381 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 6: hop is going through a remake. I feel like it's 1382 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,160 Speaker 6: going through a remake, like you know what I'm saying, 1383 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 6: and that happens it's fifty years old. Like it's like, 1384 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 6: this is the fiftieth anniversary of hip hop this year. 1385 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 6: So it's it's grown from you know, just hip hop 1386 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 6: to the gang culture to the bad boy era to 1387 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 6: you know, so it's over the drill music. So I 1388 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,960 Speaker 6: feel like, you know, we're looking to see what's the 1389 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 6: next iteration hip hop. 1390 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 4: I think this is interesting. We're having a conversation with 1391 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,720 Speaker 4: you all, because you've created EGO. We would Dougie Fresh 1392 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 4: and he said, there's five elements of hip hop, right. 1393 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,160 Speaker 4: He said, it's the MC, there's the DJ, there's the graffiti, 1394 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 4: there's breakdancing. And he said he now this is really, 1395 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 4: this is really he really said this to us. And 1396 01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 4: he said the fifth one was him. He could create 1397 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 4: the human beat box, right. And I was like, you 1398 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 4: know what, there's a sixth element that's being created right now, 1399 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 4: and it's the business of hip hop. And so the 1400 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 4: fact that Eagle is creating that and obviously what any 1401 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 4: leision is we always say, like yo, hip hop is 1402 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 4: at the core of what we do. I'm thinking now, like, 1403 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 4: you got all these verticals right on the landscape. What 1404 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 4: verticals do you think that you're missing or you want 1405 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 4: to add over the next couple of years. 1406 01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, really, no vertical that we want 1407 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 8: to add other than like growing building a real company, 1408 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 8: like actually building something horizontally and vertically that we could sell, 1409 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 8: Like when a company does due diligence on EGLE, we 1410 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 8: want there to be like you know, we have every 1411 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 8: HR policy, we have all the back end of what 1412 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,960 Speaker 8: a real company looks like so because I honestly feel like, 1413 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 8: you know, a lot of people from hip hop haven't 1414 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 8: been able to build like or han't had the experience 1415 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 8: to build something that was like you know, the Google 1416 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 8: or like those real massive companies. So shout to Larry Jackson. 1417 01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 8: I saw that, you know Gamma, you know, like stuff 1418 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 8: like that is really really dope to see. I think 1419 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 8: when they look under the hood, I just want, you know, 1420 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 8: Egle to be like, man, that's a that's a wide company. 1421 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 8: They got employees. You know, everyone asks health you know 1422 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 8: small so everyone has health insurance stuff like that, right, 1423 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 8: Like that's a real company. 1424 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like everyone When people talk like yo, 1425 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 4: I got a label, right, you see an artist, I 1426 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 4: gotta label, I often want to like do they even 1427 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 4: know what it entails? 1428 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 8: Is a staff? Y'all have meetings like like is there 1429 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 8: a schedule? Like how are you guys holding each other 1430 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 8: account policy? 1431 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 5: It becomes something different like I'm an artist and I 1432 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 5: like you, so I'll sign you. How do I do that? 1433 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 3: I'll create a record label and now you're an artist 1434 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 3: and now I have a record label. 1435 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 8: I think that's the next fifty years of hip hop, right, 1436 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 8: I think like, you know, it's the fiftieth anniversary of 1437 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 8: hip hop. How much of hip hop is black people 1438 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 8: even own? 1439 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 5: Right? 1440 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 8: I know it's a really small number. I don't have 1441 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 8: the metrics, but it's you just people just don't own 1442 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 8: their masters, they don't own their publishing. So the next 1443 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 8: fifty years it's about developing a business sophistication to properly 1444 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,640 Speaker 8: staff and service your music in a way that you 1445 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 8: don't gotta you know, hold your stuff out. You don't 1446 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 8: got to sell it to this company for no reason. 1447 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 8: So I think, you know, I think that's what we 1448 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 8: want to be known for. And people look under that hood. Man, 1449 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 8: that's a that's a strong company. You know, there's a 1450 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 8: lot of employees, there's a lot of reach. They're doing 1451 01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 8: so many different things. They got competitive you know, benefit packages, 1452 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 8: all that sort of stuff. 1453 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think we just changed the term. 1454 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 5: We just did it. 1455 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 4: And since you're the entertainment lawyer, we're gonna have to 1456 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 4: train on this. This is the business education. This is 1457 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:25,160 Speaker 4: gonna be the sixth element. 1458 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:26,600 Speaker 8: Six element. Yeah, I like that. 1459 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:27,600 Speaker 5: So let me ask you this. 1460 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 6: You brought up a good point as far as selling 1461 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,519 Speaker 6: your artist your masters. 1462 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 5: This is something that's very popular these days. 1463 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,680 Speaker 6: We just met somebody the other day that he's the 1464 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 6: one that brought Nickhi Minoag's catalog. 1465 01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,880 Speaker 5: I even know she sold the catalog. We have to know. 1466 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 8: I know, I know who you're talking about. Okay, I 1467 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,120 Speaker 8: know where that you know their office is, right. 1468 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 5: I don't After this, we'll talk. 1469 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,720 Speaker 6: But we have IRV Gotti on his couch and he 1470 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 6: sold his catalog for I think two hundred million, right, yeah, uh, 1471 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 6: incentives to make it three hundred explained. So now people, 1472 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,759 Speaker 6: it's like the last eighteen months, everybody's on the cattle future. 1473 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,800 Speaker 6: I just seen metro booming, so it's like liquidation events 1474 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 6: and they getting valuations like tech companies. So that's obviously 1475 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 6: beneficial whenever you can get a lump sum of money, right. 1476 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 6: I always say what people don't know about Elon Musk 1477 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 6: is that he actually sold PayPal for one hundred million 1478 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 6: dollars and then went broke because he used that money 1479 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 6: to fund space as in Tesla. Now he's the richest 1480 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 6: person in the world and he's worth two hundred billion, right, 1481 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 6: But it's like he wouldn't have had SpaceX or Tesla 1482 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 6: if he didn't sell PayPal. But then there's another argument 1483 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 6: where people are like, well, we gotta hold on to 1484 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,760 Speaker 6: what we create and we keep selling it. 1485 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,560 Speaker 5: You're not buying that. 1486 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 6: What's your what's your thoughts on people selling their catalogs 1487 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,680 Speaker 6: and that? Would you guys ever want to do that? 1488 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 6: At some point? 1489 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 5: I would? I want to. 1490 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,400 Speaker 8: I want actually want to hear blast? Yeah, I want to. 1491 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 11: That's funny because every time I see, like when they 1492 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 11: do a post of like how metro so did, it's 1493 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,160 Speaker 11: always a rent in the comments, like black people. 1494 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 5: Don't never keep with you. Yeah that's a fact. That's 1495 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 5: a fact. But you brought up a good point. 1496 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 11: It's like you have to take the stairs that you like, 1497 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 11: you sell paypals, and people don't see the long term play, 1498 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 11: you know, they focus on what you're doing right now. 1499 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,840 Speaker 11: So I don't really know my answer to it, but 1500 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,600 Speaker 11: I feel like I got to educate myself but be 1501 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 11: patient and see the long play of why people doing it, 1502 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,040 Speaker 11: you know, because of course you want to own it, 1503 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 11: but for what it's not only about ownership, it's about 1504 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 11: controlling it too. 1505 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think too. It's like, you know, everybody else 1506 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,120 Speaker 8: is building an exit, right, so it's like real even 1507 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 8: real estate. You invest in real estate, buy real estate 1508 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 8: property for fifty k, and you sell it for a 1509 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 8: million dollars, that's a that's a steal, right. I don't 1510 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,439 Speaker 8: know what that the ex is on that, but like 1511 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 8: there's always a time where it makes sense to sell 1512 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 8: an asset to get other assets and to build other stuff. 1513 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 8: That's like literally what everybody else is doing. So there 1514 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 8: was a I don't know what company. So there was 1515 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:11,000 Speaker 8: a I think it was a like a hair product company. 1516 01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that sold you know what got Yeah, this 1517 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 5: conversation we were just yesterday. 1518 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, there was the same outrage that Blast kind of 1519 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,720 Speaker 8: spoke about where everyone was like, Yo, why are you 1520 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,439 Speaker 8: selling you know, a black owned company? 1521 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 3: And it was like Alia, Yeah, it's like yo, it 1522 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 3: came up. 1523 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 6: That's when we asked her the first time we met. 1524 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,479 Speaker 6: It was like he was like, you know, people asked me, 1525 01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 6: you know why I sold my Masters, Like I got 1526 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 6: a hundred million. People asked why I sold it? Said 1527 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,960 Speaker 6: because I got a hundred million, That's why I sold it. 1528 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 6: Like you know what I'm saying. So it's like, I 1529 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 6: think we really have to do a better job of 1530 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 6: educating black people that is not, and some of it 1531 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,559 Speaker 6: is valid because you know, we have a lot of trauma. 1532 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,080 Speaker 6: So whenever we see QC or whatever, it's like, oh, 1533 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,760 Speaker 6: you sold out. But the other people never get that, 1534 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,960 Speaker 6: do You never see the white people like yo Eli 1535 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 6: must sold out like you know what I'm saying that, 1536 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 6: like all right, this is business, is what he's doing whatever. 1537 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 6: But for black people it happens all the time, whether 1538 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 6: it's haircare, whether it's music. 1539 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 5: It's like you sold out, Da da da da, And 1540 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 5: then it'd be like like that you got like hate mail, 1541 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 5: like people like really I. 1542 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 4: Had a conversation with her last night about it, and 1543 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 4: it was like it didn't hurt as bad because she 1544 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 4: had somebody to pattern it off of. So like richlu 1545 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 4: My Dance, who is you know over at Essence in 1546 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 4: charge of Essence He sold Shrey moisture that it was 1547 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 4: a one point six billion dollar deal, Jesus Christ one 1548 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,600 Speaker 4: point six and so like when she was interested in 1549 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 4: going down that Avenue was thinking about selling like well, 1550 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 4: she had him to lean on. And the problem is 1551 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 4: like we don't we've never we don't see it, right, 1552 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,639 Speaker 4: Like even the people that we know that are wealthy 1553 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:48,560 Speaker 4: of our billionaires. They're all first generation I said the 1554 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 4: stuff to day, but they're learning too, right, and so 1555 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 4: as they learn, yeah, they're gonna have to educate, and 1556 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 4: like that's part of our role, right, like sitting down 1557 01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 4: with these people to educate people on the structure of career, 1558 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,960 Speaker 4: eating an asset and selling an asset and then maybe 1559 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,200 Speaker 4: creating more assets. 1560 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 3: But we're so stuck on, like we have that financial trauma. 1561 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 3: It's like, Yo, you sold out. 1562 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 4: The product ain't the same how you say you change 1563 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,040 Speaker 4: the chemicals? Bro different my head, it's like yo, bro, 1564 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,360 Speaker 4: Like really, but I think what you said and I 1565 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 4: love it. I meant to say it earlier. It was like, 1566 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:26,639 Speaker 4: when we think of business, we talk in terms of companies, 1567 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 4: but when we talk music we talk in terms of labels. 1568 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 8: What you like, I'm listening as the manager. It is 1569 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 8: an operator, Like it like, what's a. 1570 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 4: It's a you're not creating. It's not a record label. 1571 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 4: This is a record company. We're in the business of music. 1572 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:44,840 Speaker 4: But when we change that language, it feels like oh 1573 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 4: that it's like, oh, this is a label. I got 1574 01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 4: an artist and now I have a label. But do 1575 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 4: you have a company. 1576 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:54,120 Speaker 8: It's elementary you know it's it's something that like again, 1577 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,599 Speaker 8: like it's how we control the next with the years 1578 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 8: of black music, like just changing the way we think 1579 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,640 Speaker 8: about it, like really trying to build a company and 1580 01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,560 Speaker 8: owning every process of it, learning how we distribute, like 1581 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 8: you know, bridging a gap on connections overseas, like just 1582 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,960 Speaker 8: owning those processes, Like that's how we do it the 1583 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:10,719 Speaker 8: next fIF the years. 1584 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,200 Speaker 6: Another thing, going back to this selling, We had a 1585 01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,679 Speaker 6: conversation with Rich and he was saying, what people don't 1586 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 6: talk about is what happens if you don't sell, because 1587 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,160 Speaker 6: we know that the vast majority of businesses don't make 1588 01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 6: it to be a second generation business. It's even higher 1589 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 6: for black businesses, right, So he brought up one company, 1590 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 6: I won't mention their name, but a very successful black 1591 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 6: legacy brand, and he was like, at the peak of 1592 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,120 Speaker 6: their success, like in the nineties, the company was worth 1593 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 6: like six hundred million dollars, and now the company's worth 1594 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:39,960 Speaker 6: thirty million dollars. 1595 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 5: So nobody tells that story. 1596 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 6: Like that's another part of the coin too, Like damn, 1597 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,840 Speaker 6: like you had it up here and then you wrote 1598 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 6: it all the way down here, and then you know, 1599 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 6: a kid ends up messing it up and you know, and. 1600 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 12: It's like I think that's like a doctor Dre situation, 1601 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 12: you know, right, Like doctor Dre was averaging like ten 1602 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 12: million a year, shold it for two hundred and it's like, shit, 1603 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 12: he's got like a brain an urhythm just had divorce. 1604 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 12: It's like themn my next twenty years, Like who is 1605 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 12: going to be able to operate this creativity? Like me 1606 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,240 Speaker 12: and you already hear like crazy stories of doctor Dre, 1607 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 12: how you about super ain't in the studio and stuff 1608 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 12: like that. So I can only imagine him thinking like, ah, 1609 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 12: do I want X, Y and Z that it is 1610 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 12: in my vicinity to be taking control of this and 1611 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 12: not treating it the right way? Or would I rather 1612 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:32,840 Speaker 12: cast out on my next twenty years or what I 1613 01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,400 Speaker 12: was already making and make those investments for the long term, 1614 01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 12: Like you're a saying sell that pap really. 1615 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just put up the bumpers, right, like put 1616 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,560 Speaker 4: up the bumpers for the next generation. So like you 1617 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 4: can't mess this up? Yeah, maybe if you try, you couldn't. 1618 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1619 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:48,840 Speaker 12: And I think this is like directly correlated to like 1620 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,560 Speaker 12: you think about like natural selection and like Darwinism and 1621 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 12: like those theories about how you like over time, it 1622 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,560 Speaker 12: takes small portions to like, oh, think about like what 1623 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 12: or or something like that. And the Amazon, like fifty 1624 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,639 Speaker 12: years ago they beat might have been like two inches shorter. 1625 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 12: But now as climate changes, all that stuff changes over time, 1626 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 12: the bird changes. 1627 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,040 Speaker 5: So I think as far as the business should go 1628 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:13,519 Speaker 5: the same. 1629 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,800 Speaker 12: Way, like it take a future a future or a 1630 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,640 Speaker 12: metro booman or a doctor Dre or a jay Z 1631 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,559 Speaker 12: to make these type of investments and sell these companies 1632 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 12: to be able to jump to that next level of 1633 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,800 Speaker 12: business executiveship to be like, oh okay, now it goes 1634 01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 12: from us just being the supplier of the product to 1635 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,839 Speaker 12: us having say in what product is the next product? 1636 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 12: So I think as that keeps rolling over, like you said, 1637 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,679 Speaker 12: these next fifty years, we'll see a whole different turnaround 1638 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 12: just because little about little. 1639 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 5: We'll start to see more people in more people in position. 1640 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 12: Hopefully that will change the tide of the gatekeeper, and 1641 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 12: there'll be more capital. 1642 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 4: Right, there'll be people that look like us that have 1643 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 4: more capital or capital what decision means yep. 1644 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,360 Speaker 6: So all right, let's talk about the future for eagle. 1645 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:04,680 Speaker 6: So how many you have artists on the label. Now, 1646 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:05,720 Speaker 6: how many artists you have? 1647 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:13,200 Speaker 8: One signed artist? Hopefully another one soon singh. He's literally 1648 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 8: like a like a baby blast, like. 1649 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 5: Baby blast her baby blast. Maybe let's not call him 1650 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 5: a baby blast. Might not appreciate that. I don't want to. 1651 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 5: I want to say it, right, is it? J J 1652 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 5: Millan J million million. 1653 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 10: He's We'll say he's another one hundred percent produced, writes 1654 01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 10: his music. Oh yeah, plays instruments, producers. 1655 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 8: He produced half the BEINGO and Blast product six stage two. Yeah, 1656 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,400 Speaker 8: so you hear his tag. I'll through that project. 1657 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 6: So what's what's the goal as far as Yeah, what's 1658 01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 6: the what's the vision for Eagle in the next five 1659 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 6: to ten years? 1660 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,479 Speaker 5: Of course all verticals. 1661 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,560 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think one is making sure that 1662 01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 12: well Carl mentioned earlier, like our employee, he's the artists 1663 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 12: that are with It's like it's important for us all 1664 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,880 Speaker 12: to be on the same page on structurally how we move. 1665 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 10: So I think that's the baseline of it. 1666 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 12: Like even when even with us having Jamillion as an artist, 1667 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 12: we pour into him just as much as a human 1668 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,559 Speaker 12: being as we pour into him musically and like business wise, 1669 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 12: because if he's not if you don't have the regular 1670 01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,839 Speaker 12: human intangibles. He's not going to go that far regardless 1671 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 12: if we're on his side or not, because we're not 1672 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,720 Speaker 12: with him one hundred percent of the time. But we 1673 01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 12: taking every effort right now from the people we hire 1674 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 12: right now, people we letting go all that type of stuff. 1675 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 12: All that goes into what this long term vision for 1676 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,880 Speaker 12: egoism that is to grow vertically and the grow horizontally. 1677 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,000 Speaker 5: Too, Blasphim. 1678 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 4: He's the standpoint we got Nas, worked with Kendrick, worked 1679 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:51,559 Speaker 4: with DAGs, Sogn, Snoop Ross Ross, who's on the list 1680 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 4: that we. 1681 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:52,960 Speaker 5: Haven't gotten this? 1682 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:55,639 Speaker 11: I say for real, I say that in every interview. 1683 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,720 Speaker 11: But I think my biggest goal is to have a 1684 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 11: Jack executive produced by for Real. That's one of my 1685 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 11: biggest things. But in terms of like artists collaborating, I 1686 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 11: feel like I'm still establishing myself in my own voice 1687 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 11: and my own narrative. 1688 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,840 Speaker 5: So that's my main focus. 1689 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 6: M Yeah, your music is very It's a high vibration music, 1690 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 6: thank you. It's not depressing music. That's important people vib 1691 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,640 Speaker 6: to every time. Like I feel like when you put 1692 01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,080 Speaker 6: out new music, I can count on Russell Westbrook to. 1693 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:33,200 Speaker 5: Be in his call listening to this. 1694 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 3: I was there last night, like, y'all must have grown 1695 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 3: up each other. 1696 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:40,000 Speaker 5: Yo. 1697 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 4: When you put still on my way, Yo, that just 1698 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,479 Speaker 4: kept ringing on my timeline. I'm like, yo, I gotta 1699 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,320 Speaker 4: go download this, so. 1700 01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,800 Speaker 5: Shout out Brodie Man. He pulled up last night to 1701 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 5: the release. 1702 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 6: So now we appreciate youall, guys, MA anything else, y'all 1703 01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 6: want to let the people be aware of. 1704 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:02,800 Speaker 5: Projects out now. 1705 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 11: Project just for clarity to go run out there for me. 1706 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 11: Much love to everybody that tapped in Eagle Gang. 1707 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 3: We got Mustle producing on there. 1708 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Roddy Richards on the project, Terrris Martin, Larry June, Yeah, major. 1709 01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 5: And you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Anything else, good money. 1710 01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. 1711 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 4: I wanted to say this really quickly because I I 1712 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 4: don't know how we went through this whole interview, like 1713 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,200 Speaker 4: we're having Blast here and Shoty not mentioning that his 1714 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 4: nickname is Blast. 1715 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 3: That's how did we get through this whole without you 1716 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 3: even saying that? 1717 01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:43,920 Speaker 5: Well, so this is a story. I spell it different. 1718 01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 5: I spelled the red live. 1719 01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:47,920 Speaker 4: I used to get in this car he'd be playing 1720 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 4: your music. I'm like he's only rocking it like this, 1721 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,519 Speaker 4: like this is pretty nice. 1722 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 5: I take it. 1723 01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,400 Speaker 6: No, that's definitely so welcome audience. That's that's very not 1724 01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,320 Speaker 6: a lot of people know that. But my name is 1725 01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:07,120 Speaker 6: for Shot. So growing up, my nickname was Shoddy. That's 1726 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 6: like every nobody. A lot of people don't even know 1727 01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 6: my name was for Shot for a long period of 1728 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 6: time because everybody just called me Shody. And then like 1729 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 6: my real close friends, like like family, like. 1730 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,400 Speaker 5: They call me Blast. That's crazy. 1731 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 6: So that was still is like like people like I 1732 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,240 Speaker 6: know like that somebody really like they call me Blast, 1733 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:27,680 Speaker 6: Like I know that they really really know me. 1734 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 12: You're not gonna do It's the insight how you got that, man? 1735 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,720 Speaker 5: Blast got the name well, so I used to. 1736 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,560 Speaker 6: I used to play ball and another one of my 1737 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 6: friends to want it's just like Shoddy Blast, like a 1738 01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 6: shotgun Blast, but there was no actual firearms in this. 1739 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:49,160 Speaker 5: It was it was I had a ratchet. I had. 1740 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:54,800 Speaker 5: I had a ratchet, not a ratchet. I'm not trying 1741 01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 5: to be. 1742 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,400 Speaker 6: But I'm actually a big fan of your music, man, 1743 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,759 Speaker 6: and I appreciate it. My son is tired of hearing 1744 01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 6: me play it because I play you and tims all 1745 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 6: the time in my car. You're like, Yo, can we 1746 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,920 Speaker 6: listen to something else? I'm like, where you want to 1747 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,320 Speaker 6: listen to, like drill music video something or I'm like, 1748 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,639 Speaker 6: we're not listening to that in the car. But it's 1749 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 6: actually really like I said, it's a high operation. 1750 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,760 Speaker 5: It's a dope. It's a dope vibe, and I really 1751 01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,639 Speaker 5: I like it. I actually like the music. 1752 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,479 Speaker 6: So, you know, whenever we get a chance to talk 1753 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,679 Speaker 6: to people that were actually fans of that even makes 1754 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:34,840 Speaker 6: the conversation even better. 1755 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 5: Like I'm actually a fan of the music. 1756 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,840 Speaker 6: So and now knowing you guys, I'm a fan of 1757 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 6: what you guys are doing business wid I feel like, 1758 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 6: you know, you guys definitely have a great head on 1759 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,240 Speaker 6: your shoulder and got a vision for what you want 1760 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 6: to do. So anything that we can do to help 1761 01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,400 Speaker 6: you guys, like I said, definitely try to connect you 1762 01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 6: with a sixteen Z that's easy and anything. 1763 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 4: You know. 1764 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 6: Stop by the coffee shop too in Newark. What's the 1765 01:22:59,000 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 6: name of the coffee shop? 1766 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,720 Speaker 8: It's a wine bar. 1767 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,960 Speaker 5: When is it open August? Okay, Yeah, it's going to 1768 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 5: be like a night life vibe. 1769 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Jersey is a place stat everyone's actually 1770 01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 8: like yo, when you leave in Jersey type, why, I'm 1771 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 8: actually from like south like right near Philly, so like 1772 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:21,760 Speaker 8: Camden County. 1773 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,040 Speaker 5: Oh that's even worse. 1774 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 3: You live in Camden obviously live in Newark. 1775 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 5: Are you from Camden from Yeah? 1776 01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, But I didn't grow up like one step. 1777 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 5: Up shout everybody in Camden, Shout to the Wana, the 1778 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:38,479 Speaker 5: whole Campden. 1779 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 8: Like my grandpa is like like he was like one 1780 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,840 Speaker 8: of the early like first black students. So I came 1781 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,800 Speaker 8: to high So it's like a very interesting like the 1782 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,759 Speaker 8: see Camden the way it is now is definitely different 1783 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:51,920 Speaker 8: from me. 1784 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 2: It wasn't. 1785 01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 8: The history of Camden is like very you know, the 1786 01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 8: r c A Plant was there, Like it's just it's 1787 01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:58,920 Speaker 8: like it's like a Midwest city in the middle of 1788 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,479 Speaker 8: New Jersey, Like factories left and it's like he's abandoned 1789 01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:03,599 Speaker 8: Camden Once. 1790 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,160 Speaker 4: It was like I went to a water park up there. 1791 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,320 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, man, you know you know exactly, yeah, 1792 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,519 Speaker 4: I know, yeah, I said, yeah, we can't come. Is 1793 01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:14,519 Speaker 4: there another one that got. 1794 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:21,200 Speaker 5: Jersey to Jersey? Man? Yeah? But Newark? Yeah so so, 1795 01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,640 Speaker 5: but Newark is actually in the process of changing. You 1796 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 5: can see it. 1797 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 3: You can see it. 1798 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 5: Man. 1799 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 8: I moved there during the pandemic. I was actually living 1800 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 8: in Camden County. That's where my first law office was. 1801 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 8: So I was doing a lot of deals and actually 1802 01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 8: I think we're wallowing, Gilly actually record what was where 1803 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,080 Speaker 8: my office was at. So I was doing it there 1804 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 8: and then moved up to Newark during the pandemic, and 1805 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 8: based on base, I just saw it. You just see it, 1806 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,479 Speaker 8: like you know, marijuana is legal in Jersey. Newark was 1807 01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,800 Speaker 8: an international airport, twenty minute train ride into the city. 1808 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,719 Speaker 8: Black culture hub like literally black mayor, you know, black 1809 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 8: congressman like all time and stuff. So you could just 1810 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,200 Speaker 8: see the fabriculous city, like, man, this is a place. 1811 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 8: This is a place that you can afford, you can 1812 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 8: help sort of shape the next fifty years of and 1813 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:12,680 Speaker 8: we just don't have stuff to do. It's like so 1814 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,120 Speaker 8: I'm like, all right, let's get that wine bar popping. 1815 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 6: Don't let us know, man, we know for people out 1816 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,760 Speaker 6: there too, So shout out to doing you know what, 1817 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,599 Speaker 6: doing my god versus my enemies. 1818 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 5: You ever see those shirt? Yeah? Yeah, he. 1819 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 8: I gotta connect with him Salent, good. 1820 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,479 Speaker 6: Dude, all right, my gosh, I appreciate y'all. Thank y'all 1821 01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 6: for waking up early. That says a lot too. 1822 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 3: No. 1823 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 6: I know, you know, y'all just had the party yesterday. 1824 01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 6: So I appreciate y'all waking up early. Man, and once again, man, 1825 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,360 Speaker 6: love is love. 1826 01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 8: Thank you, I appreciate it. 1827 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1828 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 9: My graduates from my school being forced back drop b drop, 1829 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,080 Speaker 9: Mike drop back drop. 1830 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 1831 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:14,720 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 1832 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas. Man of Venezuelan charged with 1833 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 1834 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 1835 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,519 Speaker 1: Donald J. 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