WEBVTT - Catch Me If You Can [5]

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<v Speaker 2>Brenda Woodard, who was actually the fifth victim. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she was older. She was actually going to night school

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<v Speaker 2>and she was taking the bus home as she always

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<v Speaker 2>did when she disappeared. When she was found, she had

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<v Speaker 2>not only been strangled, but she had been stabbed through

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<v Speaker 2>her clothing. And it was apparent that she had been

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<v Speaker 2>undressed and sexually assaulted and then had been redressed because

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<v Speaker 2>her shirt or sweater or whatever she was wearing was

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<v Speaker 2>on inside out at the time and she was stabbed

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<v Speaker 2>through the sweater. Now, she was the one where he

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<v Speaker 2>left the note. What he actually did was he had

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<v Speaker 2>her write the note. It was in her handwriting, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was from him, and he basically was taunting the

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<v Speaker 2>police saying that this is tantamount to how I feel

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<v Speaker 2>about women. If you catch me, I will admit to

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<v Speaker 2>the others. And he signed it the Freeway Phantom. The

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<v Speaker 2>Freeway Phantom wasn't a name that the police gave him.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a name that the press gave him after

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<v Speaker 2>his fourth victim, right before Brenda. So here he is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's taunting the police. He knows enough to know not

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<v Speaker 2>to write the note himself because he could potentially be

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<v Speaker 2>connected to it. And then our theory is is that

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<v Speaker 2>at that time she realized that, oh my god, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to get out of this, and she

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<v Speaker 2>probably fought him and that's why he had to resort

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<v Speaker 2>so killing her.

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<v Speaker 3>The homicide detectives termed the cases the little girl cases.

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<v Speaker 2>This child was laying on the side of the road

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<v Speaker 2>as wouldn't go no way, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Would call out my house.

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<v Speaker 5>Those first five murders should have been a huge warning

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<v Speaker 5>bell for the police.

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<v Speaker 3>We just want to know what happened. This person must

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<v Speaker 3>have saw that they were thinking that maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 3>one person, and he says, oh, they need to know

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<v Speaker 3>this is me.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that they would catch him. I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Celeste Hedley and this is Freeway Phantom. On November fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 6>nineteen seventy one, eighteen year old Brenda Woodard became the

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<v Speaker 6>fifth victim of the Freeway Phantom. It had been a

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<v Speaker 6>month and a half since the discovery of his fourth victim,

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<v Speaker 6>Ninomosha Yates, but the case of Brenda was different from

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<v Speaker 6>the rest of previous victims. Brenda was older, her life's

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<v Speaker 6>circumstances were divergent from the rest of the girls, and

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<v Speaker 6>the evidence that police found was unlike anything they'd seen before.

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<v Speaker 6>Brenda Denise Woodard was born in nineteen fifty eight. Her

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<v Speaker 6>parents were Mary and Edward Woodard. She was the eldest

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<v Speaker 6>of six children. We know that Brenda enjoyed music and

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<v Speaker 6>spending time with her friends. She had several jobs in

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<v Speaker 6>high school, but she struggled in her classes and had

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<v Speaker 6>been held back two years. However, leading up to her death,

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<v Speaker 6>Brenda's life was somewhat tumultuous, and that fact would become

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<v Speaker 6>important later on in the case, so we'll go into

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<v Speaker 6>it here briefly. Until about three weeks before her murder,

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<v Speaker 6>Brenda was living with her family in Baltimore, Maryland, but

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<v Speaker 6>just before Halloween she moved out. The FBI interviewed her

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<v Speaker 6>father about the situation at home. Here's what the reports say,

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<v Speaker 6>as read by a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Woodard advised his daughter had been somewhat of a

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<v Speaker 7>disciplinary problem to him because he had been forced to

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<v Speaker 7>reprimand her several times because of the late hours she

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<v Speaker 7>had been keeping, and because of her reluctance to inform

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<v Speaker 7>him or her mother concerning where she was going when

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<v Speaker 7>she left the house or the name of the person

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<v Speaker 7>she planned to meet. He further recalled that approximately three

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<v Speaker 7>weeks ago, shortly before Halloween weekend, she had been asked

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<v Speaker 7>to help with the housework, particularly to wash dishes. She

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<v Speaker 7>failed to do this, and upon returning home from his

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<v Speaker 7>job with the Giant Food Company Beltsville, Maryland, he talked

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<v Speaker 7>to his daughter and asked her why she had failed

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<v Speaker 7>to do so. Miss Woodard had no real excuse, and

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<v Speaker 7>her father informed her at this time that she was

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<v Speaker 7>welcome to remain in the family residence until she could

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<v Speaker 7>find a job, but after she found gameful employment, he

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<v Speaker 7>would appreciate it if she found some other place to live.

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<v Speaker 7>Unless she was willing to obey her parents and respect

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<v Speaker 7>their wishes. He emphatically denied there had been any fight

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<v Speaker 7>between him and his daughter or that she had been

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<v Speaker 7>forced to leave home. He stated, however, that after the

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<v Speaker 7>incident related above, he and his wife left the family

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<v Speaker 7>residence to go shopping, and upon their return home found

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<v Speaker 7>miss Woodard had removed her clothing and moved next door

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<v Speaker 7>to the residence of Brenda Schumpert twenty one oh seven

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<v Speaker 7>Maryland Avenue, Northeast.

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<v Speaker 6>But Brenda's problems didn't stop there. Brenda reportedly had difficulties

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<v Speaker 6>with relationships. One boyfriend named Walter Clark gave her them

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<v Speaker 6>most trouble. When interviewed by police, Walter told authorities that

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<v Speaker 6>Brenda was infatuated with him, and although the feelings weren't mutual,

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<v Speaker 6>he would regularly have sex with her. Brenda was also

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<v Speaker 6>said to have gotten incredibly jealous when Walter was around

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<v Speaker 6>other girls. In July of nineteen seventy one, Brenda was

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<v Speaker 6>admitted to a mental institution for hysteria. There, Brenda made

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<v Speaker 6>a friend named Pamela Taylor. Police would later interview Pamela,

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<v Speaker 6>who said that Brenda would sometimes climb into a car

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<v Speaker 6>with a stranger and have sex with them to get

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<v Speaker 6>back at Walter. This was important because Brenda's mother, Mary

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<v Speaker 6>described her as being shy, not the type of person

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<v Speaker 6>who would get in the car with a stranger. But

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<v Speaker 6>other friends of Brenda said the same thing as Pamela.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's an interchange between a police officer and Brenda Shumpert,

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<v Speaker 6>who was living with Brenda Woodard at the time.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you think Brenda would get into a car with

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<v Speaker 7>a stranger.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she would.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen her get out of a car driven

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<v Speaker 4>by a guy and I asked who he was.

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<v Speaker 8>She said, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>He offered me a ride and just picked up my

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<v Speaker 4>packages and put them in the car, so I went

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<v Speaker 4>with them.

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<v Speaker 6>However, Brenda started to turn things around that fall. She

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<v Speaker 6>had started taking night classes at Cardozo High School. On

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<v Speaker 6>November fifteenth, the day she went missing, Brenda's father, Edward,

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<v Speaker 6>saw her for the last time. Here's part of his

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<v Speaker 6>statement to police given on November sixteenth, as read by

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<v Speaker 6>a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 9>Yesterday, about five o'clock, she came home and she had

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<v Speaker 9>a record player with her. She knocked on the door,

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<v Speaker 9>and I went to the door, and she came in

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<v Speaker 9>the house. She started to unpack the record player because

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<v Speaker 9>she had just bought it, and I helped her unpack

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<v Speaker 9>it because she was having trouble opening it. I got

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<v Speaker 9>an album on and played it. Then I asked her

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<v Speaker 9>if she was going to school and she said yes, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 9>but she didn't have to leave until six pm. Then

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<v Speaker 9>something stuck with me and I thought I should take

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<v Speaker 9>her to school. She sat there until about twelve minutes

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<v Speaker 9>after six, and then I took her to school. I

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<v Speaker 9>got there about five or ten minutes to seven. I said, Brenda,

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<v Speaker 9>are you coming over tomorrow? And she said yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 9>When she got out of the car, I felt like

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<v Speaker 9>I wanted to kiss her, but I didn't. She said bye, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 9>and I said bye. That's the last time I've seen her.

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<v Speaker 6>After night classes, Brenda and a classmate named Sherman Mitchell

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<v Speaker 6>left school together. They decided they'd go to a well

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<v Speaker 6>known restaurant named Ben's Chili Bowl and then take the

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<v Speaker 6>bus home. Normally Mitchell would have driven, but his car

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<v Speaker 6>was in the shop that day. Mitchell gave this statement

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<v Speaker 6>to police, as read by a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 10>Brenda and I left school about nine to fifty five

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<v Speaker 10>pm November fifteenth, nineteen seventy one, and we walked down

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<v Speaker 10>twenty second Street northwest to U Street northwest and walked

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<v Speaker 10>up to Ben's Chili Bowl. We had two hot dogs,

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<v Speaker 10>one half smoke, and two sodas. Brenda ordered another half smoke,

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<v Speaker 10>and I bought one pack of cool filter king for Brenda.

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<v Speaker 10>I knew she had eight cents, and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 10>if she gave me a nickel on the cigarettes or not.

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<v Speaker 10>We left the chili bowl after being there about twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 10>The walk from the school was leisurely and took about

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<v Speaker 10>fifteen minutes. We left the chili bowl and walked to

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<v Speaker 10>the bus stop at eleventh and U Streets Northwest. He

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<v Speaker 10>waited for about three minutes. We caught a bus Mark

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<v Speaker 10>Garfield and took the Garfrael bus up to eighth and

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<v Speaker 10>eighth Streets northeast to transfer. She could catch any bus

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<v Speaker 10>going out northeast. This was the last time I saw Brenda.

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<v Speaker 6>Brenda had told Sherman to call her later so they

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<v Speaker 6>could keep talking. He said he called after midnight, but

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<v Speaker 6>was told that Brenda still wasn't home. Sherman told law

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<v Speaker 6>enforcement he was surprised by this since it was so late. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 6>Brenda's parents were becoming concerned. Brenda's mother took the bus

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<v Speaker 6>home from work that night, and when she walked to

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<v Speaker 6>her bus stop, she saw a crime scene. There was

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<v Speaker 6>police tape and officers everywhere, but she couldn't figure out

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<v Speaker 6>what was going on. Still, it made her worried about Brenda.

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<v Speaker 6>Here again is the statement given by Brenda's father, Edward,

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<v Speaker 6>to police, as read by a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 9>When I got home today, my wife was crying. This

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<v Speaker 9>was about one o'clock. I asked her what she was

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<v Speaker 9>crying for, and she said, I'm scared. I kept asking

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<v Speaker 9>her and she didn't want to talk. She couldn't hardly talk.

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<v Speaker 9>She was so nervous. She said she got off from work,

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<v Speaker 9>she works at Prince George's Hospital, and she couldn't catch

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<v Speaker 9>the bus because of all the police tape. She said

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<v Speaker 9>the traffic was blocked off and she had to walk

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<v Speaker 9>down the hill to catch the bus. She said she's

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<v Speaker 9>seen a wig. I don't know whether she was on

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<v Speaker 9>the bus or not, a brown wig. Then I asked

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<v Speaker 9>did she call the police, and she said no, she

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<v Speaker 9>was too nervous. She gave me the number and I

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<v Speaker 9>called the police. The girl my daughter was living with

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<v Speaker 9>called my wife and asked her had she seen Brenda

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<v Speaker 9>and she told her no. She told my wife that

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<v Speaker 9>she had not Brenda, and she said this boy called

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<v Speaker 9>her and told her that he and Brenda had got

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<v Speaker 9>off a bus at eighth and H Street northeast and

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<v Speaker 9>this was the last time he's seen her. He said, that's.

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<v Speaker 6>It, Mary Wititdward was scared that maybe it was her

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<v Speaker 6>daughter found by the bus stop, and the next morning,

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<v Speaker 6>on November sixteenth, Mary's gut feeling would be confirmed. In

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<v Speaker 6>the early morning hours of November sixteenth, Officer David Norman

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<v Speaker 6>spotted what he thought was a man slumped over on

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<v Speaker 6>the side of the road not far from Prince George's

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<v Speaker 6>County Hospital. Officer Norman made a U turn across the

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<v Speaker 6>grass median of Hospital Road and parked with his headlight

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<v Speaker 6>shining directly on the body. He walked within two feet

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<v Speaker 6>of the body before he realized it was a black

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<v Speaker 6>woman lying face up with a coat draped over her.

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<v Speaker 6>He determined she was dead because she wasn't breathing, her

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<v Speaker 6>eyes were wide open, and her arms were above her

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<v Speaker 6>head with her hand partially erect. Officer Norman had found

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<v Speaker 6>the freeway Fantom's fifth and oldest victim.

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<v Speaker 11>She had been strangled, and what was different with her

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<v Speaker 11>is she had also been stabbed, so it's very clear

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<v Speaker 11>that I'd like previous victims, she put up a serious

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<v Speaker 11>struggle with her a Sami.

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<v Speaker 6>This is writer Blaine Pardo, who co authored a book

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<v Speaker 6>on the Freeway Phantom with his daughter Victoria Hester.

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<v Speaker 11>It's on a little grassy area on a curve of

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<v Speaker 11>the road. She was found laying face up with her

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<v Speaker 11>hands clasped over her hat. She died really of the

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<v Speaker 11>stab world, although there were some strangulation. She had a

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<v Speaker 11>broken bone in her neck, probably from squeezing of her throat,

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<v Speaker 11>but it was the stab wound that killed her.

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<v Speaker 6>In the police files, I discovered a photo of Brenda

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<v Speaker 6>Woodard's crime scene. Believe me, none of the bodies were

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<v Speaker 6>easy to look at, but this one disturbed me in

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<v Speaker 6>a different way. Unlike the others, her body looked like

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<v Speaker 6>it had been thrown, as if the killer was in

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<v Speaker 6>a hurry to dispose of her. Her body was mangled

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<v Speaker 6>and her bloody clothes were still on the spot where

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<v Speaker 6>her body was placed is on a grassy slope just

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<v Speaker 6>beside the street, and you can see her feet angling

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<v Speaker 6>up towards the road. This crime scene felt violent, it

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<v Speaker 6>felt wrong. When we talked to Detective Jim Traynham, he

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<v Speaker 6>confirmed the dark suspicion that bubbled up in Brenda's mother

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<v Speaker 6>that night.

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<v Speaker 2>Brenda's body was found near the bus stop that her

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<v Speaker 2>mother actually took to go home. When she came out,

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<v Speaker 2>she saw all a police activity, not knowing that it

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<v Speaker 2>was her daughter who was lying there. So again that

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<v Speaker 2>raises several questions. Is it a possibility that he knew Brenda,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew her mother, or he found out information about

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<v Speaker 2>her mother during the time he spent with Brenda. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>these things are all things that we have to consider.

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<v Speaker 6>Trainan believes this murder tells us a lot about the

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<v Speaker 6>killer's m O and perhaps why he was so difficult

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<v Speaker 6>to capture.

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<v Speaker 2>And looking at how the victims, where they were picked

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<v Speaker 2>up and where they were their bodies were dump you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the first two victims came from the very same neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>and they were found at the very same location off

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<v Speaker 2>for two ninety five. One of the theories that's been

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<v Speaker 2>proposed is is that even though there was not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of police activity, you know, surrounding these girls, at

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<v Speaker 2>that time, probably there was a lot of neighbor talk

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of neighborhood interests, So the thought was

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<v Speaker 2>that he's either from that neighborhood, familiar with that neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 2>seen a lot in that neighborhood, so that may have

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<v Speaker 2>caused him some concern, especially if he's like the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>weird guy or had some sort of similar incident where

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<v Speaker 2>people might be kind of like pointing at him. So

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<v Speaker 2>he decides to go outside the neighborhood, and so he's

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<v Speaker 2>now going to other sections of the city. DC is

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<v Speaker 2>a small city to begin with, but it has its

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<v Speaker 2>own select neighborhoods, and those neighborhoods can be very isolated.

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<v Speaker 2>People who live in one neighborhood down in southeast back

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<v Speaker 2>then wouldn't typically frequent with people in another neighborhood up

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<v Speaker 2>in northwest. It just wasn't as much traffic going back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth. So he goes to these other neighborhoods, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he starts going right across the DC line. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go far, but just right across the DC line

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<v Speaker 2>to where he drops the body, so that there obviously

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<v Speaker 2>can be there in plane view off the major road.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is also causes confusion because police departments, you

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<v Speaker 2>think that they like to share information, that we're all

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<v Speaker 2>working together as a team and all that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of rivalry going on, and so

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<v Speaker 2>anytime that you start putting bodies in different jurisdictions, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a lot of infighting and stuff like

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<v Speaker 2>that and not sharing of information like you should have.

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<v Speaker 2>So that probably confuses the investigation as well.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't help that Brenda Woodard's crime scene was so

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<v Speaker 6>different from the previous victims. The only similarities were that

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<v Speaker 6>she was dumped near the freeway and that police found

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<v Speaker 6>green synthetic fibers on her coat, socks, skirt, and panties.

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<v Speaker 6>But what was new was that Brenda had been stabbed

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<v Speaker 6>multiple times, which had not been the case for previous victims.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a superficial stab wound to her head, a

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<v Speaker 6>stab wound her chest through her sweater, and two stab

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<v Speaker 6>wounds to her abdomen. She was also still fully clothed

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<v Speaker 6>and still had her shoes on, which were black boots,

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<v Speaker 6>and police found traces of hair from two different men,

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<v Speaker 6>a black man and a white man. Negroid head hairs

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<v Speaker 6>were found on her boot shirt, braw and coat, and

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<v Speaker 6>Caucasian headhairs were found on her coat and skirt. Some

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<v Speaker 6>investigators have stated they believe the Caucasian hairs originated from

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<v Speaker 6>law enforcement on the scene. Lastly, she had a number

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<v Speaker 6>of defensive wounds, suggesting she put up a struggle against

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<v Speaker 6>her killer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yes, she put up a fight.

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<v Speaker 6>This is retired MPD detective Romayne Jenkins. She says that

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<v Speaker 6>this particular murder brought up a lot of questions in.

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<v Speaker 3>The case, Brenda put up a fight. That's why he

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<v Speaker 3>stabs her, he strangles her, he rapes her. She put

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<v Speaker 3>up a fight, and she does have defiled and wounds.

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<v Speaker 3>But what made her suspicious? What made her go willingly

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<v Speaker 3>with him? Why?

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<v Speaker 6>Romayne says the case of Brenda Woodard was one of

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<v Speaker 6>the most difficult ones for her to hear about.

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<v Speaker 3>We live basically in the same neighborhood, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>same type of apartments, the same people. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>her because she was much younger than I, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was basically the same neighborhood. And I used to hang

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<v Speaker 3>out wish where she lived. I had friends up there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I had relatives who lived up there. In

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<v Speaker 3>the same apartments that as she lived in.

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<v Speaker 6>Romayne. Like many other investigators, was also disturbed by one

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<v Speaker 6>major piece of evidence found at the crime scene, a

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<v Speaker 6>handwritten note tucked inside Brenda's coat pocket. Here's what the

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<v Speaker 6>note said.

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<v Speaker 3>This is tantamount to my insensitivity to people, especially women.

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<v Speaker 3>I will admit the others when you catch me if

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<v Speaker 3>you can, signed Freeway Phantom.

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<v Speaker 11>And the note was something that she had written. It

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<v Speaker 11>was her handwriting, but it was the killer's words.

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<v Speaker 6>This is writer Blaine Pardo again.

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<v Speaker 11>So the belief is that he may have had this

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<v Speaker 11>note pre written and said copy it because there's words

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<v Speaker 11>in this is she never would have used it said

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<v Speaker 11>this is tantamount to my insensitivity, which was misspelled to people,

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<v Speaker 11>especially women. I will admit the others when you catch

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<v Speaker 11>me if you can. And it was signed the Freeway

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<v Speaker 11>Phantom where the freeway is hyphenated. The note on its

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<v Speaker 11>own is the scariest thing because it's the killer reaching

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<v Speaker 11>out to everybody out there, saying who he is and

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<v Speaker 11>what he's doing and why he's doing it. It's not

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<v Speaker 11>a very long note, but what's interesting is when you

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<v Speaker 11>look at it, you literally can see where he went

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<v Speaker 11>along and almost checked off each word to make sure

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<v Speaker 11>it was right. The phrase freeway fanom had been picked

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<v Speaker 11>up by the news media and was being used both

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<v Speaker 11>a newspaper and on TV and radio describing killer, so

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<v Speaker 11>he was admitting, I am the freeway fanom. This is

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<v Speaker 11>a victim of the freewaydea. We ended up going to

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<v Speaker 11>one of the investigators who pioneered forensic linguistics, who actually

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<v Speaker 11>caught the unibomber. We actually gave him a copy of

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<v Speaker 11>the note. Had said, help us see what you can

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<v Speaker 11>do with this, and he went over in great detail

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<v Speaker 11>and he said, there's a lot of interesting things in here.

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<v Speaker 11>One of the things he pointed out to us was

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<v Speaker 11>my insensitivity to people, especially women. So has he been

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<v Speaker 11>killing young men too and we don't know it? And

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<v Speaker 11>he said the Hyphenetiana Freeway was very interesting. He literally

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<v Speaker 11>sent me the Library of Congress to go through newspapers,

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<v Speaker 11>thirty years worth of newspapers trying to find instances where

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<v Speaker 11>free way was hyphenated. And he believed it's a West

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<v Speaker 11>coast thing. I couldn't find anything on that, but he said,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm almost positive that's something to do with the West coast. Now,

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<v Speaker 11>the only reference I ever found to it was in

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<v Speaker 11>a psychological book from nineteen fifteen nineteen twenty something like

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<v Speaker 11>that about homosexuality, which is interesting because it's a kind

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<v Speaker 11>of book you might find in a mental institution. A

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<v Speaker 11>mental institution in Washington, DC area had a pretty distinct

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<v Speaker 11>tie to all of us.

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<v Speaker 6>If you remember, Brenda Woodard was briefly in a mental institution,

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<v Speaker 6>and later in the investigation, one of the prime suspects

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<v Speaker 6>would also have ties to a mental institution. More on

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<v Speaker 6>that in a later episode.

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<v Speaker 11>To me, that note is everything because it's the first

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<v Speaker 11>time and the only time that the killer reaches out

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<v Speaker 11>to the authorities. It was todping, catch me if you can't. Terrible,

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<v Speaker 11>just absolutely terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>And it makes you wonder too. Did she fight back

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<v Speaker 4>because she basically wrote her own killer's note.

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<v Speaker 6>This is author Victoria hester Blaine's daughter and co writer.

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<v Speaker 6>She's speaking to the question Romayne brought up earlier about

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<v Speaker 6>why Brenda put up a fight either before or after

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<v Speaker 6>she was forced to write the note.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we know it's her handwriting. She literally had

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<v Speaker 4>to sit there and write, either copy it or take

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<v Speaker 4>his word for word and write it down. And she

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<v Speaker 4>probably knew what was happening next probably put it all together,

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<v Speaker 4>which is probably why she fought so hard, because she

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<v Speaker 4>saw it coming, whereas the other girls were a lot

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<v Speaker 4>younger and may have not known. They may have not

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<v Speaker 4>understood or felt the same fear. But that's like new

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<v Speaker 4>level as having your victim write a note and then

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<v Speaker 4>putting it in the pocket on their body. That was

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<v Speaker 4>it's creepy to read, Like even just looking at the handwriting,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just creepy knowing that a killer wrote that.

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<v Speaker 11>And I don't think it was dictated. We spoke with

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<v Speaker 11>Remaine Jenkins and she was like, if it was dictated,

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<v Speaker 11>there would have been more misspellings, there would have been

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<v Speaker 11>more mistakes associated with it. This was something that was copied.

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<v Speaker 11>It was very specific.

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<v Speaker 6>There were also the peculiar language choices used by the

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<v Speaker 6>killer throughout the note.

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<v Speaker 11>The word tantamount. Think about this, Who uses that word?

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<v Speaker 11>Everything else? All the rest of the wording is almost

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<v Speaker 11>everyday type of thing, the word insensitivity. You'll hear people

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<v Speaker 11>use that. How often do you hear people use the

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<v Speaker 11>word tantamount?

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<v Speaker 6>Since it's such an unusual word, we thought we'd quickly

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<v Speaker 6>define it here. Tantamount means to be equivalent in value, significance,

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<v Speaker 6>or effect. Merriam Webster uses this example. His statement was

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<v Speaker 6>tantamount to an admission of guilt, meaning something may not

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<v Speaker 6>equal something else literally, but it may be of about

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<v Speaker 6>equal value.

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<v Speaker 11>And that really stuck with the authorities, like they really

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<v Speaker 11>later investigations really focused on that, because unfortunately, if you

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<v Speaker 11>go around going, hey, did this guy ever use the

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<v Speaker 11>word tantamount, You're going to get a lot of people

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<v Speaker 11>at start saying, well, yeah, that's the case. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 11>it's an interesting word to have in your vocabulary. I

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<v Speaker 11>write a lot of books. I don't think I ever

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<v Speaker 11>used it prior to this book.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I had to look it up because I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, what does that even mean? I've never heard

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<v Speaker 4>of that word. It's definitely not something in everybody's vocabulary.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know, maybe he heard it somewhere and

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<v Speaker 4>he thought it maybe made him sound smart, maybe that's

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<v Speaker 4>what he was going for. Or was this something that

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<v Speaker 4>a word that was a part of a court case

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<v Speaker 4>that he lost that really pissed him off. So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 11>Several of the investigators we talked to, so that's such

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<v Speaker 11>an interesting word and it's almost like he's trying to

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<v Speaker 11>make himself sound more intelligent, and it's not the correct

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<v Speaker 11>use of the word Jim's about, so it's almost forced.

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<v Speaker 11>It also tells you about the location where he kept

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<v Speaker 11>his victims. Had to have good lighting, had to have

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<v Speaker 11>a desk to write on, had to have a pencil,

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<v Speaker 11>and everything had to be there for that to happen.

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<v Speaker 6>Detective Romayne Jenkins considers the note to be one of,

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<v Speaker 6>if not the most important pieces of evidence in this case.

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<v Speaker 6>As for her assessment, she largely agrees with Blaine and Victoria.

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<v Speaker 3>I always felt if these cases ever closed, the antswer

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<v Speaker 3>lies with Brenda Wooded. Why do you say that because

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<v Speaker 3>of the note, Because of the note that he left.

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<v Speaker 3>He wanted to note found and Brenda Woodard wrote the note.

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<v Speaker 3>Brenda Woodard knew about the other girl's cases. She warned

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<v Speaker 3>her own family, her sisters, to be careful because there's

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<v Speaker 3>somebody out here snatching young girls. She knew about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you look at her handwriting, it's in her

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<v Speaker 3>normal writing. There is no no sign of stress, no

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<v Speaker 3>sign of stress, none, none that somebody said write this

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<v Speaker 3>note and she just did it.

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<v Speaker 6>Did you keep a copy of the note.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the note and we were sworn to secrecy

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<v Speaker 3>that we were never to divulge the contents of the

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<v Speaker 3>note because that's the only thing they had. They had

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<v Speaker 3>nothing else, and they realized the importance of the note

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<v Speaker 3>because a lot of times when you have high profile cases,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody wants to run to the police and say I

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<v Speaker 3>did it. You know, they want to confess. But if

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<v Speaker 3>they couldn't tell you the contents of the note, then

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<v Speaker 3>you knew this person was not responsible. So that's why

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<v Speaker 3>we were We were told not to divulge the contents

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<v Speaker 3>of the note, and to my knowledge, it wasn't done

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<v Speaker 3>until recently. The note was talked about, but the contents

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<v Speaker 3>were not revealed until recently. Within the last few years.

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<v Speaker 6>The news of Brenda Woodard's death shook up the community

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<v Speaker 6>and the investigation. Now there were six different agencies involved

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 6>in the case, MPD, Prince George County, Maryland State Police,

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<v Speaker 6>Chevrolet Police, and the US Park Service, and the cases

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<v Speaker 6>were officially designated the Freeway Phantom Cases. In our investigation,

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 6>the shift in law enforcement involvement is evident. A source

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 6>provided US with thousands of documents from the varying jurisdictions,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 6>including the FBI. These include suspect interviews and evidence collected

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 6>from crime scenes and from potential suspects. Most of this

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 6>begins after Brenda. Even members of the local DC government

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 6>started to speak out about the murders. Here's an excerpt

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<v Speaker 6>from the book The Mystery of the Freeway Phantom by

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<v Speaker 6>author and community member Wilma Harper.

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<v Speaker 8>On November eighteenth, nineteen seventy one, Mayor Walter Washington emphasized

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 8>Police Chief Jerry Wilson's all out appeal to the public

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<v Speaker 8>for help in the search for the killer or killers

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 8>responsible for the murders. In a surprise move, the mayor

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 8>joined the police chief at a press conference and said

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 8>he was deeply and greatly concerned about the killings. He

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 8>pledged the entire resources of the city government in helping

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.400
<v Speaker 8>the FBI, the District of Columbia, and Prince George's County

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.800
<v Speaker 8>police departments in the search. Mayor Washington also strongly endorsed

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 8>an appeal the police department had made to the community

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 8>asking for assistance in the solution.

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<v Speaker 6>Of the crimes.

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<v Speaker 8>The appeal was published in the Daily News under the

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<v Speaker 8>caption does anyone know the Phantom.

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<v Speaker 6>The FBI also made some peculiar choices. At one point,

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 6>they made a lookalike doll of Brenda. They took a

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 6>picture and circulated flyers with the photo and information of

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 6>her disappearance. The flyer gave basic background detail of time

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.200
<v Speaker 6>and place, of where she was last seen and where

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 6>her body was found. It also outlined what Brenda was

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 6>wearing and how she was killed. The flyer was addressed

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 6>to all cab drivers and directed people to call the

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 6>FBI's listed phone number. There is also a lot of

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 6>negative information about Brenda herself. In the police report. The

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 6>description of her was brief. Here's what it said, as

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<v Speaker 6>read by a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 7>Immature, naive, sex with strangers for rides, hitchhikes, living with girlfriend,

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 7>attended night school, en route home by bus, psite counseling.

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 6>And in police interviews. Investigators seemed fixed on the idea

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 6>that Brenda was overly promiscuous, often suggesting that was the

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 6>reason she was killed. As we heard earlier, several friends

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 6>did report that Brenda would sometimes accept rides for men

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 6>that she did not know. However, many people spoke to

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 6>the contrary, including the last person to see her alive.

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<v Speaker 6>Sherman Mitchell. Here's more from the police report, as read

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<v Speaker 6>by a voice actor.

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<v Speaker 7>Mitchell did not think Brenda would on impulse jump into

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 7>an automobile of an unknown person. He did not think

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 7>she would turn tricks for money, nor did he think

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 7>she was on any kind of narcotics. Mitchell advised that

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 7>he has never in his life taken any narcotics and

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 7>were certain Brenda had not. He advised that was easy

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 7>to make friends with and was very sympathetic towards others.

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 6>Another one of Brenda's friends, Diane Murray, expressed similar sentiments.

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<v Speaker 6>This is also from the police report read by a

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 6>voice actor.

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<v Speaker 7>Woodard, to her knowledge, never accepted a ride with anyone

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 7>who would drive past and offer her a ride in

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 7>an automobile. This has occasionally happened in the past when

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 7>the two of them would be together on the street.

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 7>In all instances, Woodard would refuse the invitation to ride

0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 7>in the automobile.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's possible that Brenda did, in fact accept rides

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 6>from strangers, it's odd that police were so quick to

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 6>solely adopt that perspective, and from reading the documents, it

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 6>looks as though investigators wrote Brenda off as a result.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 6>So while Brenda's actions may have put her at higher

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 6>risk of being victimized, her death was in no way

0:31:54.760 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 6>less tragic and she deserved a proper investigation. Also, the

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 6>rhetoric about her promiscuity was not only damaging to the case,

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 6>but it really reinforced harmful and unfair stereotypes. Meanwhile, the

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 6>community was terrified, now more so than ever. Strangely, many

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 6>people were concerned about one specific detail.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the community was up in arms because several of

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 3>the girls had the name Denise. So everybody who had

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 3>a daughter or somebody kin with the name Denise, they

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<v Speaker 3>were very cautious.

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 6>This is Romaine Jenkins again, as she says, three of

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 6>the total six confirmed Freeway phantom victims had the middle

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 6>name Denise.

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<v Speaker 3>And people prayed on this extent, I'm gonna get your daughter, Denise.

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna snatch her from school. You know. Parents were

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 3>getting phone calls like that. And whether they were actual

0:32:57.320 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 3>people doing this, who had anything to do with the investigation,

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>we don't know. It was just the thing, be wave.

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 3>If your name is Denise, then you come in this

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 3>house at a certain time, don't talk to strangers. And

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 3>and parents were concerned. They were really concerned.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 6>Author Wilma Harper wrote about this in her book The

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 6>Mystery of the Freeway Phantom. She says it started when

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<v Speaker 6>one expert was interviewed by a local newspaper.

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<v Speaker 8>The day after the body of Brenda Denise Woodard was found.

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<v Speaker 8>Doctor Sheldon Freud, an internationally known psychologist working with the

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 8>Prince George's County Police Department, warned black girls named Denise

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 8>that their lives were in danger. Both Freud and the

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 8>police believed the phantom was deliberately seeking out teenagers named

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 8>Denise as targets for his highway slaughter.

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 6>And then, as Wilma Harper writes, things came to a

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<v Speaker 6>head at Brenda's funeral.

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 8>Funeral services for Brenda Denise Woodard were held on November

0:33:56.240 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 8>twenty second, nineteen seventy one, six days after her body

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 8>had been found just off the Baltimore Washington Parkway. The

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 8>Reverend Thomas Jennings at the Tenth Street Baptist Church conducted

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 8>the service by eleven am. About ninety persons, many of

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 8>them girlfriends of miss Woodard, had viewed the body. They

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 8>signed their names in a book on a pedestal near

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 8>the entrance way to the chapel. The cover of the

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 8>book said in memory of Miss Brenda Woodard friends who called.

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 8>It was noted that at least ten of the girls

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 8>who signed the book were named Denise. One mourner sobbed

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 8>loud enough for those around her to hear, Oh Jesus,

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.840
<v Speaker 8>oh Lord, I hope he doesn't see those names. She

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 8>was referring to the killers and the possible homicidal hate

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:43.840
<v Speaker 8>for the name Denise.

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 6>Writer Blaine Pardo is skeptical about the Denise connection.

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<v Speaker 11>The name Denise pops up at several of these victims,

0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 11>and that became this, Oh my gosh, he's killing girls

0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 11>with the middle name Denise. Okay, today I could go

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 11>and google high school directory maybe and find out who

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 11>all these people are. Nineteen seventy, how would you even

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 11>know how to find someone with the middle named Denise.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 11>And again, you have to always look at these through

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 11>the lens of how things were then. But that became

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 11>a big deal, and there were there were actual TV

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 11>broadcasts that we looked at where they were like, Hey,

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 11>if your daughter's middle name is Denise, you know you

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 11>need to escort her to school and pick her up

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.920
<v Speaker 11>because this is what this killer's focusing on.

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<v Speaker 6>Detective Jim Trainham says they successfully debunked the idea that

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 6>the killer was targeting people named Denise.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>We kind of did a little research back then, and

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Denise was an extremely popular name during that time period.

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 2>So there again, you know the likelihood if you have

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>enough people let them be named Denise or having Denis

0:35:56.000 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>as part of their name increases and so that could

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>just very well would be a coincidence there. One of

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the things that we did was there were numerous behavioral

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>or psychological profiles done of the phantom, and we kind

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>of looked at the different profiles and how they kind

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 2>of varied. Some of them talked about how Denise played

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>a significant part and others didn't. I honestly believe that

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>these people were chosen at random.

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:30.720
<v Speaker 6>Whether or not he was actually targeting girls named Denise.

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 6>People in the neighborhood were convinced of the danger, and

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 6>the paranoia in the area was out of control. According

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 6>to a Daily News article published three days after Brenda

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 6>was found, there had been more than four thousand tips

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 6>called into the police tip line during that period, not

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 6>all of them useful. Here are a few examples as

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:51.360
<v Speaker 6>read by voice actors.

0:36:52.680 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 12>My father, Well, what's your name?

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I got some information you are, Well, what is it?

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.919
<v Speaker 7>When you find the phantom, you'll be a surprise. If

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 7>the phantom where the policeman's here before.

0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Then.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 6>On November twentieth, the Washington Daily News sponsored a public

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 6>service announcement in the form of an open letter to

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 6>the killer. Heard on the radio and on television.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 12>This is an appeal to the person responsible for the

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 12>death of six young girls. Please call this number four

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 12>six two nine four one five. This is the paypile

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 12>and it's not tapped, and you will hear my voice only.

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 12>Here's why I'm asking you to call right now. I'm

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:39.959
<v Speaker 12>more concerned about you. You probably feel the whole world

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 12>is after you.

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 2>You may be scared.

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 12>He must be just plain tired. If you are, there

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 12>is someone you can turn to without fear.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:54.400
<v Speaker 6>Shortly thereafter, the phone number received eight calls, with heavy breathing,

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 6>no sound or tips, and a woman hysterically crying in

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 6>the background. Following all of this, a five thousand dollars

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.239
<v Speaker 6>reward was offered by The Washington Evening Star, and a

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 6>one thousand dollars reward was offered by WUST Radio. In

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.879
<v Speaker 6>one interesting twist, there was even an official connection made

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 6>to the Zodiac killer. On December first, a San Francisco

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 6>homicide detective sent communication to the Washington Field office comparing

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 6>the Freeway Phantom and Zodiac cases. The note stated, though

0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 6>that there were many differences between the murders. The Zodiac

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 6>did not sexually assault his victims. The Zodiac also didn't

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 6>target a specific race, nor did he strangle his victims.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 6>But there was a request to compare the handwriting and

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.360
<v Speaker 6>fingerprints on the Freeway note with those of the Zodiac

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 6>notes and Cipher's. However, none of this went anywhere. After

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 6>a few weeks, the hysteria died down. Months went by

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 6>without any murders, and most people assumed that the Freeway

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 6>Phantom was done. Sadly the end, that wasn't true.

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 2>We thought that after Brenda was stabbed, and after this

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>screw up with Brenda because it didn't go as smoothly

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 2>as he wanted, he went into hiatus for a while,

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 2>nobody heard of you from him. But then he goes

0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>in the opposite direction down two ninety five. That's when

0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Diane Williams was killed, and he drops her off on

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:24.959
<v Speaker 2>the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 6>Next time on Freeway Phantom.

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<v Speaker 3>We were reading in the newspaper that there was a

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<v Speaker 3>body found.

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<v Speaker 6>We just knew that that was Diane.

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Her boyfriend escorted her to the bus stop, so we

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 4>know that she got at least to the bus. We

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 4>have no idea how she got where she was based

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 4>on where she was dropped off.

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<v Speaker 2>The main thing, you were hoping sometime at one of

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 2>these crime scenes that the assailant would drop something, he

0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 2>would lose something that was his.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoever did the cases get right into the community never

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.000
<v Speaker 3>raised any suspicion at all.

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<v Speaker 5>It's typical to generate a lot of suspects, like literally hundreds,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:16.200
<v Speaker 5>if not thousands, or tens of thousands of suspects, so

0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 5>finding who you're looking for is like trying to find

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:20.280
<v Speaker 5>a needle in a Haysback.

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