1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: The following is the production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 5: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that. 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: with Ambar Garcia, Votch Lombardi and Derek Eagleton. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, February eighteenth, twenty twenty five, season twenty one, 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: episode number one oh eight. Welcome to the latest edition 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: of The Break. We are alive from that WBC Mortgage 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: studios at the start. Man, I look I like it. 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: We have changed up a few things. We're given a 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: little try to do some different things around here, make 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: it look a little different for you guys. So check 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: it out. Hopefully you guys have a a good experience 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: watching the show. Will make some more adjustments to it. 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: But got my normal crew here today, Amber Watch. We 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: got Tommy back with us again this week. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 6: Uh, you're going to need one of those things, you 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 6: know how the people that use the thing to scratch 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 6: their backs, the sticks. Yeah, he's gonna need one of 26 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 6: those to be able to just point at each know 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 6: you read because now you can't more fun with this. 28 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 7: Than I need a fancy violin, a fancy fancy while 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 7: I'm speaking, I need to I need a fancy violet. 30 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 5: We need a fireplace inside like an. 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 7: Would be nice, like an indoors safe fire or something 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 7: like that. 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: And man, this is a vibe, mister. 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: I told you, I told you. I'm just I'm trying 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: to change it up a little bit. I want to. 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: I want to be more relaxed, so the conversation flows. 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 7: Me me growing up being a fan of dallascowboys dot 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 7: com and all the work technical glass and all the 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 7: work that you got. Gotta serious, you know, it's always 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 7: phenomenal on the information side, right, But I always want 41 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 7: you'all people to chill and relax a little bit, you. 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 5: Know what I mean. 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 7: So I did my work away from here, and I 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 7: don't know if I could say what on YouTube. 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: I try to be relaxed. 46 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 7: I think people resonate with that because you're really just, oh, 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 7: I'm kicking it with Ambar at the carneyal side of 48 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 7: talking about the Cowboys, Me and Darry Chilling whoever. Our 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 7: people chill at and some cookout or something where there's 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 7: barbecue and dice talking about the cowboys. I think people, 51 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 7: I think people want that vibe a little bit more, 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. So instead of opening up, 53 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 7: well today, man, what y'all think about this Christian Parker character? 54 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 7: To get to talk today? 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 5: Man? What y'all want to ask him? 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: And when you get rid of that table, you'd be 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: amazed how much that conversation just flow. It feels just natural. 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 5: Right, that's why you're in charge. That's why you make 59 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 5: the big bucks. You know what I'm saying. 60 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: I don't know about the big bucks. 61 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 6: But a personal table would be nice. So I can 62 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 6: put my laptop on. 63 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 8: Let me hold you and my coffee. 64 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 5: Hold hold a coffee. 65 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 6: No, this is I'm actually excited. Once we get the 66 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 6: right equipment. This is all we're trying to do. 67 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: We're not gonna spend money until we know you're doing. 68 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I approve I approve that proof. Yes, well, 69 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 6: thank you new couches though that we don't fully sink 70 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 6: in all the way that we can stand up a 71 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 6: little straighter, a little personal table to set our coffee 72 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 6: like free enjoy in right now. 73 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have one. 74 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 7: I'm good, I must say. For a billion dollar organization. 75 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 7: Will these chairs? Man a man. 76 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: You don't have to draw attention to the chairs. It's 77 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: just something for the city doing this. We just we're 78 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: testing it out. 79 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 7: My my back is a little larger than y'all, so 80 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 7: I got to squeeze in his mug and I'm sliding. 81 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Christians slide? 82 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: I mean, how many zeros are in all? 83 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 5: A bunch? 84 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: Okay, more than a zillion. Hey, real quick, before we 85 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: get into our topic for the day, we're going to 86 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: get into our player review. We started it a few 87 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: weeks ago. Today we're going to get into some other 88 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: positions on the offensive side of the ball. But I 89 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: did want to mention you you kind of threw it 90 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: out there. Christian Parker today is going to have his 91 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: press conference at at three o'clock. I think it is 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Central time. I'd love for you guys just to tell 93 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: me if you have one question. Tommy you'll obviously be 94 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: there ambrago times. I don't know if she's going to 95 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: go today. She might have other things going on, but 96 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: I just want to go around the room. Hey, y'all, 97 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: tell me if you had one question to ask Christian Parker, 98 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: what would that question be. Let's start with you, Tommy, 99 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: because you're the professional. 100 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: There's so many that I have for him, and I 101 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: think the biggest thing for me is what is it? 102 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: Because when we talked to Brian Schotenheimer at the end 103 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: of the year and we asked him what is it 104 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: that you want in your defensive coordinator, the biggest thing 105 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: that came up was a teacher and a guy who 106 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: can make complex things easy for younger players, really any 107 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: player to understand. So my question for him is, how 108 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: do you communicate what's your approach to communicating those complex 109 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: topics and making it easier on your players so they 110 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: can go out, they can play fast, they don't have 111 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: to think as much. That's the most interesting thing that's 112 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: that's for me is how does he verbalize that? How 113 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: does he explain? Is there a way that he can 114 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 3: teach us? How he teaches? I think that'll be really 115 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: interesting to pick his brain about, and especially as the 116 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: first time defensive coordinator. You know, he's got so much 117 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: more response on his plate now than just defensive backs, 118 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: so it'll be interesting to see how he conveys his 119 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: teaching style and how he approaches it. A G. 120 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 6: I mean, my question would be something that he definitely 121 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 6: would not answer, but it's it's in regards to more 122 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 6: okay when it comes to player evaluation, and that's a 123 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 6: tricky spot because you're coming in here brand new and 124 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 6: you're kind of having that mentality when you're new to 125 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 6: something or a new place or a new job. 126 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 8: You're kind of doing not what you're. 127 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 6: Told necessarily because it's they're giving him that freedom to 128 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 6: build what he wants. But you you you're not gonna 129 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 6: come out here and right away say Okay, this player 130 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 6: he's not it or can you you know that? That's 131 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 6: where I'm at, Like, it's difficult to do that when 132 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 6: it's your first year here and in that role. 133 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 8: But I would love to know who. 134 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 6: From the roster really doesn't meet the standard that you're 135 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 6: looking for, because one of the things we talked about 136 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 6: all lost season was is it coaching or is it 137 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 6: player lack of ability lack of talent. So I'm curious 138 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: to see the player evaluation that he has coming in 139 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 6: from the outside from the Philadelphia Eagles coming in here. 140 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 8: Who in the current. 141 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: Roster do you actually see the has potential to continue 142 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 6: to be here on the defense and who needs to 143 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 6: say goodbye. 144 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 7: Let me tell you why Derek Eagleson is so phenomenal 145 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 7: at this because he knows I have a. 146 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: Lot to say. He let you first. 147 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 7: You know, I got so many quicks. So brother, CP man, 148 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 7: I'm just so curious, right, Like, he's a he's a 149 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 7: young coach, and apparently he has this complex scheme and 150 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 7: he's looking for all kinds of things. Right, what I 151 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 7: thought was going to happen in this process was I 152 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 7: thought he was going to hire like some old dude 153 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 7: coach to be like the translator and to kind of 154 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 7: get some some of the you know, younger coaches on 155 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 7: the same page or whatever to kind of do that 156 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 7: kind of thing. But he's young, and his staff is young, 157 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 7: and some of his young staff came from college. 158 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 5: Right. 159 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 7: I would love to ask him, maybe I could, Hey, man, like, 160 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 7: how do you go about coaching? Like you're a young coach, 161 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 7: so how do you coach coaches to coach for you? 162 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 7: How do you coach young coaches to coach for you? 163 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 7: You know, if you're if some if Mike Patan would 164 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 7: have been like, yeah, I'll come through and you know 165 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 7: kick it with you, you know exactly what Christian Parker likes right, 166 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 7: this is a mix of everything. It's not like last 167 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 7: year where Fluis is here and all the flus's guys 168 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 7: are here. Right, these are new guys to everything. Right, 169 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 7: how do you get everybody on the same page. I 170 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 7: think that's that's going to be super important. Another thing 171 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 7: on that same kind of token or whatever, right, is 172 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 7: if I'm young and I got a young D line 173 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 7: coach or young D line situation, how do we handle 174 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 7: like the veterans that we don't want to change what 175 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 7: they do too much? 176 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 177 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 7: I don't know if I want my young coaches to 178 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 7: go talk to Quinn WHI like, heyo, Quinn. 179 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 5: I know you'd all pro and all that. 180 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like, do you change a 181 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: lot from these guys to you know? I just want 182 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 7: to know what this process looks like. Hey, Christian Parker, 183 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 7: you're a cornerback whisperer. How much of that goes away 184 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 7: because you got more responsibility in the whole defense? 185 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 5: Now, you know what I mean? 186 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 7: Either one of those questions I would love to know, 187 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 7: and Tom you can steal some of that because you're 188 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 7: gonna be there if you want, you just steal either 189 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 7: one of those. But I think he's gonna go up 190 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 7: there and blow us away with how prepared he is, 191 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 7: because that's the rumors we heard, right. Yeah, but I 192 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 7: think that all these tough questions that our colleagues are 193 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 7: going to have for him, I think he's gonna answer 194 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 7: him perfectly. 195 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the big question for me at this point, 196 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: I want to know if he's going to run a 197 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: four to three or three four defense for sure, because 198 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: I have I was intrigued when they made the higher 199 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: of an outside linebackers coach. Most times, what you see 200 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: the teams is typically teams that have a three to 201 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: four defense, they'll have an outside linebackers coach. If it's 202 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: a four to three, typically you just have a linebackers coach, 203 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: maybe an assistant. That made me that was the first 204 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: thing that made me say, maybe there's a chance they're 205 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: going to go to three to four, in which case 206 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: then it becomes very interesting because my question starts saying, 207 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: so what are you doing with O're shown it's overshown 208 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: an outside rusher in a three four? Can he play 209 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 2: middle linebacker in a three four? I'm not sure. I 210 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: think there are a lot of questions about that because 211 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: if he plays outside linebacker, now you kind of change 212 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: what you're thinking from the standpoint of what you need 213 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: to do in free agency, because you may not spend 214 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: a lot of money on a big time pass rusher 215 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: if you're doing a three four outside, if you're gonna 216 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 2: go to a three four, because now you may look 217 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: at it and say, we got Azaraku, we got overshown, 218 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: both young players. We want to get some veterans maybe 219 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: to kind of be a part of that mix, but 220 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: we may not be going out looking for a starter type. 221 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: We feel like we may have two starter types, right. 222 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: I think it just changes how you look at the 223 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: entire offseason from the standpoint of how they're gonna rebuild 224 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: this defense. So I'd really like to know it. And 225 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: to your point, Amber, I'm not sure he would say 226 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: that in an open press conference, but I would love 227 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: to know if they're thinking four to three, if they're 228 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: thinking three four, if there thinking hybrid, They're gonna do 229 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. But I think they have 230 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: a lot of parts that can go either way, and 231 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be really interesting for this defense. 232 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be you can probably expect a 233 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: fairly multiple defense their base. I don't with the personnel 234 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: they've got right now. Free agency you'll be a different story, 235 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 3: and the draft will be a different story with the 236 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: personnel they've got right now. I don't know if a 237 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: full on shift to three four is going to be 238 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: like seamless. Great. Sure you've got the defensive tackles in there, 239 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: but you don't have because Jadavian Clowne is a free agent. 240 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: You don't really have any of those big guys that 241 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: can set the edge for you. I think as a 242 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 3: rocker who did a better job against the run than 243 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: we thought he would yep last year. But we were 244 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: talking about this on Talking Cowboys a little bit yesterday. 245 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: You'd still preferably want one of those bigger, heavier guys 246 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: who can put their arm out into the tackle and 247 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: hold on to the edge for you to funnel traffic. 248 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: Right, But let me ask this question. Let's assume they're 249 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: running four to three. You don't have that guy either. 250 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: In sure, yeah, they don't. But the four to three 251 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit easier because you have the 252 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: there's more to your array at the linemacker spot instead 253 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: of having a five man front per se, Like if 254 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: you're running a fourth three, you got four down lineman, 255 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: you've got somebody at the second level that and step 256 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: up allegedly do it last year, Well, presumably if you 257 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: get a free agent linebacker that right, That's what I'm saying. 258 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: My whole point is, I think there's so many pieces 259 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: that the Cowboys are gonna have to look to replace 260 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: or they're losing in free agency. I think there's so 261 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: many pieces they're gonna have to plug in here that 262 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: either way they're gonna go, they're gonna need to plug 263 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: in those pieces. I don't think that if you look 264 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: at linebacker in and defensive end, slash outside pass rusher 265 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: in a three four, those are areas where they gotta 266 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: they gotta get bodies anyway, they're already deficient right efficient. 267 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 3: If you're going to make a change, now's the time. Yeah, 268 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: because you don't really have any personnel for any kind 269 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: right defense in terms of high level players outside of 270 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 3: your defensive tackles. So I agree with you, if you're 271 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: going to make a change, now is the time to 272 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: do it. And you're absolutely right that if there's any 273 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 3: sort of inkling of what he wants to do. That's 274 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 3: gonna kind of set the tone for what they look 275 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: for in free agency and in the draft. 276 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 7: You could be multiple, you know you can because four 277 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 7: three three four is an old man's blanket term. You 278 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 7: can really just bump two people over a gap and 279 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 7: make you stand. And it's the same thing just like 280 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 7: uh if you look up like fans, you knowing what 281 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 7: he does with like his five man fronts, penny fronts 282 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 7: is what they call it. In my mind, like that's 283 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 7: really like a three three stack with these guys just 284 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 7: kind of walk down to it. So everything comes from 285 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 7: a family where it's similar. It's just that instead of 286 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 7: stacking and shedding here, you might just be your C 287 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 7: gap guy or your B gap guy. I think if 288 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 7: he can't find a way to use the dudes that 289 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 7: we have, then we hired the wrong dude, you know 290 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 7: what I mean, We hired the wrong guy if he 291 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 7: can't figure it out. But I think it's gonna look 292 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 7: similar to what the Eagles do. And the Eagles are 293 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 7: a three fourteen. They just run a gang of Nickel, 294 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 7: and Nickel puts you in those even front sometimes. And 295 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 7: if that's gonna be the case, then cooke. 296 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: Ye, all right, here we're gonna do. We're gonna take 297 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: our first break when we come back. 298 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 7: By saying, yes, what you saying right about that? What 299 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,239 Speaker 7: you're saying, sure vouchers correct, go ahead. 300 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: We gotta take our first break. 301 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 6: No, it's just it's funny because I feel like during 302 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 6: all my years here, when changes happen on the defensive 303 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 6: side of the ball, every year during this time, I 304 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 6: feel I hear people talking, oh, well, what kind of 305 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 6: scheme is it gonna be? 306 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 8: What is it gonna be? 307 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, like it hasn't even 308 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 6: matter that much because like the results have been well, 309 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 6: not as bad as it was last year. From sure 310 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 6: that was historical, but it's just let's just wait and 311 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 6: see which one fits better. And that's the thing. We 312 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 6: have a perception of what we think these players are, 313 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: what we think these players can do. We don't know 314 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 6: what he specifically is thinking and how he sees this. 315 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 6: So it Yeah, we can talk about it, but I'm 316 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 6: just gonna wait and see what actually happens. 317 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing about it is you're right from 318 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: the sandpoint that it doesn't really make You can have 319 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 2: good defenses that play multiple different kinds of fronts and schemes. 320 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: Like there's success in a lot of different ways. I 321 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: think the key is what you're doing and how you're 322 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: going to deploy your personnel dictates what kind of personnel 323 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: you need. And that's where I start wondering how much 324 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: of the how many of these guys fit, and how 325 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: many guys don't fit, like a guy like Marys Leafle, 326 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: how they run, the type of scheme they run will 327 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: probably make a big difference as to whether he's a 328 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: guy they keep around or not, or want to keep 329 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: around or not. Right, you know, as far as a 330 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: defensive player, not necessarily just you know, speaking about any 331 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: other thing, special teams, whatever, but I think you know 332 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: there are other players like that that you look at 333 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: and you're like, based on the scheme, it would dictate 334 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: how valuable this player is for this particular scheme. And 335 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: that's why I'm interested to know which one he's thinking, 336 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: because that'll help me get a better idea in my 337 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: mind on what they're going to be looking for in 338 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: free agency, what they'll be looking for in the draft, 339 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: what kind of players fit that are currently on the roster, 340 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: and who they really need to go out and get 341 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: and where they need to bolster it right. All right, 342 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna take our first break. We're gonna come back. 343 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna jump to our player review. We're gonna get 344 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: into the running back position. 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As you 409 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: remember from our Player of preview, we kind of want 410 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: to look at this from two different facets. One, what 411 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: was the past performance. What'd you think of the position 412 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: last season? Things you like, things you didn't like, areas 413 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: where you think there needs to be improvement. And then 414 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: future what do you think of where the Cowboys are 415 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: right now and how they best prepare themselves to be 416 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: able to meet the challenges of the twenty twenty six season. 417 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the running back position. You got Javonte Williams, 418 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 2: who was your starter free agent this year but played 419 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: really well for the Cowboys last year. Miles Sanders they 420 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: brought in last year but really never really got a 421 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: footing here as a player of consequence for them. He 422 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: got Malik Davis, who they brought in later but had 423 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: an impact I think closer to the end of the year. 424 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: Hunter Lipke. I think he was probably used more this year, 425 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: and he's been in the time he's been here with 426 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, He's found a role, and I think it's 427 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: a good role for him. And then you got Jayden 428 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: Blue and film Off, two rookies that basically had rookie 429 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: type seasons and active a lot, didn't play a whole lot, 430 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: but certainly a couple of things that you saw, I 431 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: think from both of them that give you some reason 432 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: to believe that maybe they can ascend to be good 433 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 2: players for you at some point. What was that on 434 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: which one? Blue? He can run? He can run? And 435 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: there were some plays, there were some plays. We saw 436 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 2: it in the last game of the season. There was 437 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: some plays he made. Uh, the last game season would 438 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: have been in Washington. Yeah, it doesn't matter like it 439 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: was the Cowboys. That's not the point. The point is 440 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: he has he has he has skill. Yeah, he has skill. 441 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: And by the way, and by the. 442 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 8: Way, agreed, agreed, he has a. 443 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: Long way to go. Even washing right, doesn't matter, That 444 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. He's got he's got skill. The issue is 445 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: can he become the player that they want him to be? 446 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: Is he gonna know what to do? Can't he pick 447 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: up There are lots of things that. 448 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: You have to know. 449 00:19:58,840 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 8: He has skills. 450 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 6: We saw it in his college career, and so we 451 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 6: know what he was bringing into and what he was 452 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 6: bringing to the table. But again, those issues that was 453 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 6: that were keeping him off the field where he wasn't 454 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 6: I don't think he was able to really take full 455 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 6: advantage of the opportunity that was presented up until that 456 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 6: last game of the season where at that point, you know, 457 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 6: the game was not that great and it was like 458 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 6: I was not left with a huge impression. Yeah, scored 459 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 6: a touchdown and everything, and you see the speed. I 460 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 6: just it's it's upsetting to me in the sense that 461 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 6: I take it more personal than I should when you 462 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 6: see the guy has talent, he's so talented. But then 463 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 6: I feel like the whole year was kind of he 464 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 6: said as far as growth and development, because. 465 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: But do you think so, because the way I look 466 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 2: at it, I look at a guy like him, and 467 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: if he did the things he was supposed to do, 468 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: a ton of growth probably happened this year because that 469 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: means the coaches were getting him to understand this is 470 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: what it takes to be a professional. This is the 471 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: level of practice that you need to have. This is 472 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: the level of preparation that you need to have. Watch 473 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: Devonte and follow what he does and so there could 474 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: have been a ton of development that we didn't see, 475 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: what was happening behind the scenes that didn't necessarily have 476 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: to reflect itself on Sunday during games. It was more 477 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: about how do you get yourself ready for Sundays, And 478 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: so that development may have happened. We don't know. We'll 479 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,719 Speaker 2: find out this next year if he actually did develop, 480 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: But my suspicion is they were probably trying to teach 481 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: him the lesson of this is what it looks like 482 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: to be a professional, and hopefully he took some of 483 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: that learning and he will apply it this next year. 484 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 6: Well, luckily we did have a guy like Javonta Williams 485 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: play the way that he did to where you didn't 486 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: really need extra help from that sense. Also, Malick Davis, 487 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 6: I love him as a player. But the other times 488 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 6: prior to that game, the few opportunities that Jaden Blue 489 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 6: did get throughout the season, it just it wasn't I 490 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 6: can't remember that. 491 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 8: It wasn't. 492 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't impactful or anything, And it's just one 493 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 6: of those things that you have a certain type of 494 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 6: expectation and that maybe. 495 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 8: That's all me. 496 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 6: I had a higher expectation, sure, I'll take it. Then 497 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 6: lower my expectation. What are we doing here? 498 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: But I mean he was fifth round draft picks, So 499 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not expecting a fifth round pick to 500 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: necessarily come in and light the world on fire. Right, 501 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: there's a reason why he dropped to the fifth round. 502 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 8: No, I was with him, you were, yeah, okay, because 503 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 8: what I have seen with you talk. 504 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 6: You keep talking about speed, speed, speed, speed, but you 505 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 6: can't do much with speed when you're running into a wall. 506 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: So you're saying if you're blind, it doesn't really matter, 507 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: if you're just running into darkness, it doesn't really. 508 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 7: I thought we was just just acting and in characters. Look, 509 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 7: we need to put them back behind a table. A table. 510 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 6: Sounded terrible, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't mean 511 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 6: to No, I don't mean to be mean. It's just 512 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 6: what's coming through out of my mouth is just. 513 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 8: I'm desperate. 514 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 6: I don't have patience anymore. I don't have the time 515 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 6: to keep waiting. 516 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: For You're not wrong, So it's not fair. 517 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 6: But it's still not fair when when when you say that, 518 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 6: Derek and I take him second to analyze what. 519 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 8: I just said. Sure, my analysis, it. 520 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 6: Is not fair to the player to where he was 521 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: drafted and to where he's at now. It's not fair, 522 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 6: but I think it's just more. I'm just frustrated with 523 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 6: everything because I don't I don't want to keep having. 524 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 8: To wait for guys to develop. 525 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 6: That's why when we talk about free agency at this point, 526 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 6: I want to spend my money on free agents. I 527 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 6: want to bring in free agents. Help, don't talk to 528 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 6: me about, oh, the draft, let's build through the draft. Yes, 529 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 6: you have to, that's the scheme. Like, that's how this is. Sorry, 530 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 6: that's how this whole thing works. But yeah, I'm just 531 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 6: I'm just I'm just desperate. Sorry, go ahead, Tommy. 532 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: I don't know how I can top that. 533 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, I'm just frustrated. It's not fair 534 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 6: for me to act this way. I apologize for my behavior. 535 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: You're good, like touched all the bags there. 536 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 5: I took y'all's feedback, right, Tommy. 537 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: Please, we need to cut that whole segment and just 538 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: put it out by itself like this is Ambergars. 539 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: Go hanging with Jaden Blue is. I think what coaches 540 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: and what everybody's gonna want to see is can he 541 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: be more mature next year? And maturity everywhere widespread, and 542 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 3: that was the thing with him at Texas. I think 543 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: tashark Choice did an excellent job with him. There can 544 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 3: he get on track here in the NFL, because like 545 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 3: you guys have all mentioned, you can't teach speed, and 546 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 3: he's got it. And I think the other benefactor that 547 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: he doesn't have they had in college but doesn't have 548 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: now is Steve Sarkisian play calling. That's not saying Brian 549 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: Schttenheimer's not a good play caller, but sark would get 550 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 3: him out on wheel routes and get him in space 551 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 3: so much to where you could take advantage of that speed. 552 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: And you just don't see as much of that at 553 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: the NFL level, and certainly not in what Brian Schttenheimer 554 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: is doing. You saw him run a jet sweep or 555 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: a screen pass here and there, but it certainly wasn't 556 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: as much as that. It was more between the tackles, 557 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 3: trying to ground and pound and use your offensive line 558 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: that you invested so much in, and Jayden Blue just 559 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 3: was never really a strong between the tackles runner. Obviously, 560 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 3: the fumble production in college had a big part to 561 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: do with that. If I'm again last year, so that 562 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: was obviously a big question with him. But from a 563 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 3: speed standpoint, absolutely, he's got everything you need and then some. 564 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 3: He can hit the home run ball. It's just can 565 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: he get the singles and can he get on bas 566 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: is more or less what it's like two baseball references 567 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: in the last three minutes? Can he do those kinds 568 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: of things would be my thing with Jayden Blue. 569 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 7: Jayden Blue, how his process went early in the season. 570 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 7: I don't think he's bought bought himself any guarantees this year. 571 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 7: If my last name was Jones and were like, all right, 572 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 7: where are we at with Jada on Blue, I would 573 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 7: have to move forward as if all right, we need 574 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 7: to get better here at running back two and three? 575 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 7: Like he was the what the fifth most trusted guy 576 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 7: last year? They trusted Williams and it was like, all right, 577 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 7: why we rolling Miles Sanders out here? They trusted Miles 578 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 7: and we pulled we pulled Malik from from the crib. Yeah, 579 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 7: because they trusted Malik more. You know, Hunter Lucky's another 580 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 7: guy that eventually got carries in Blue didn't. So honestly, 581 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 7: Blue didn't do anything to kind of you got a 582 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 7: drafted here in the Joneses. You know, they love their 583 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 7: draft picks and they're more patient with those guys. Man, 584 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 7: Blue didn't guarantee us nothing. So if it's me, drafting 585 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 7: in day three should be all about defense, of course, 586 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 7: But man, if I can find a guy that can compete, 587 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 7: that can you know, be a little better, possibly, then 588 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 7: I'm looking in I'm looking in that direction because Blue 589 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 7: hadn't sealed anything for me to that point. 590 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and this is gonna be an I'm gonna preface this. 591 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: I am not saying that I don't like the idea 592 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: of Davonte Williams coming back. Yeah, would there be interest 593 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: on your part if you were a Jones, if you 594 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: were a person making a personal decision here to look 595 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: at other possible free agents that are out there at 596 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 2: running back that may have a little more of that 597 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: home run ability in them, because I think that's the 598 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 2: one thing about Javonte. Javonte does everything really really well. 599 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: Accept the home run ball, which I can live with. Like, 600 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: I think you got enough explosive players on the offensive 601 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: side of the ball. You don't necessarily need your running 602 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: back to be explosive. But if you had an explosive 603 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: running back, how much more does that add to this thing? 604 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: Because I think there were probably a few runs at 605 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: least this year that if he had that ability, you 606 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: might have seen a touchdown as opposed to a twenty 607 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: yard run, eighteen yard run, whatever the case might have been. 608 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: Now you might be sacrificing a guy that really is 609 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: good picking up the blitz, which I think is mightily 610 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: important with this offensive line, particularly what you gotta tackles. 611 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: I think it's really really important. But that all being said, 612 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: would you consider that if you had the type of 613 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: player available to you in free agency at running back 614 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: that was more of a home run hitter. 615 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 7: I think the Jones is And as much as I 616 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 7: like Javonte, I think they have this mindset as well. Like, hey, man, 617 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 7: Tony Polo was like a Day two guy. Rico was undrafted, 618 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 7: He's just fine. Javonte was. Nobody had him as a 619 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 7: top running back. Then look at what we did to him. 620 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 7: I know that they talking to his people now and 621 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 7: they seem urgent about talking to him and his representation 622 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 7: or whatnot. But man, I think if it goes bad 623 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 7: or anything like that and they say, are We're gonna 624 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 7: move on from Williams? Man I think the Joneses feel 625 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 7: good about all right, we got this scheme, we've invested 626 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 7: in the line Tyler Booker works out, he's gonna be 627 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 7: even better next year. These guys are gonna keep growing together, 628 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 7: continuity and all that good stuff to outside wide receivers, quarterback. 629 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 5: That's gonna make it difficult for defense to key in 630 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 5: on the run. 631 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 7: I don't think it's weird that they'll look at outside 632 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 7: help and be like, well, if Davonte wont ten million dollars, 633 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 7: we can't do it. We'll just get somebody for the 634 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 7: veteran minimum that we've been doing and we'll be just 635 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 7: fine at that. 636 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 5: And I like Javonte a lot. 637 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: I do too, But there has to be a limit though, 638 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: right There a limit on what you're gonna spend. 639 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was gonna say. I'm sorry, you 640 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: get the nail on the head. No, he really did. 641 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was gonna say. I think Javonte Williams, 642 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: if anything showed you that you can not put anybody 643 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: in this blocking scheme. But you can put a guy 644 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: in this scheme who may not have the track record 645 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: numbers wise, or what Chavante was the injury history. You 646 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 3: can put a guy in this backfield and with this 647 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: offensive line, with this blocking scheme, especially on the interior, 648 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: you can have a guy that, if he's good between 649 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: the tackles, you're probably going to get a good year 650 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 3: out of him. And that's why I think they want 651 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: to keep Javonte Wings because it's already worked. It's proven 652 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 3: that it's worked. So why move on from something in 653 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: risk it not working if you have something that works. 654 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: The counterpoint would be if he does ask for, you know, 655 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 3: something that is out of the Cowboys price range, and 656 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: in terms of getting a home run guy in free agency, 657 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: if you do, you'd probably have to spend a pretty 658 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 3: penny on that as well. So when you have an 659 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 3: off season where you need so much on defense, is 660 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: that really where you want to allocate those that kind 661 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: of dollar And I don't think it is, So let 662 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 3: me ask. 663 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 7: You a question, Yes, sir, I think Javonte does everything 664 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 7: the right way. I don't think he's quite special from 665 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 7: a skill set perspective. He gets what he gets, he 666 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 7: runs tough, he gets tapped. 667 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: Falls forward, although falls forward. 668 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: Javontay Williams said two hundred and fifty two carries for 669 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 7: twelve hundred yards last year, and that's good. Let's say 670 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 7: the Cowboys go crazy and free agency time. Boy, they 671 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 7: got us a little bit of everything. It's Christmas. Say 672 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 7: that running back from Notre Dame is. 673 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 4: On the board? 674 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: Who who is specialty? 675 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 7: What you think that dude to do with two hundred 676 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 7: and fifty two carries in his offense behind his line 677 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 7: on wide receivers and Javonty had what thirty five catches 678 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 7: for one hundred and thirty seven yard? Timmy, what you 679 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 7: think that dude from Notre Dame would do with two 680 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 7: hundred and fifty carres and thirty. 681 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: Five would be he would be very good. He'd be 682 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: very good. But here's the thing. 683 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 5: Seventeen hundred rushing yards is what I'm. 684 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: Thinking I would and maybe some catching out of the backfield, 685 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: of course, just say. 686 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: He can catch out of the back yeah, of course. 687 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: The thing is, though, one, are they going to be 688 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: able to spend that much to the point in free 689 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: agency to where you say we are really good on 690 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: defense now all of a sudden, like we're good, we 691 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: can draft anybody in the draft. Now. I don't think 692 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 3: that there. I don't think they'll they'll be able to 693 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: do it. Well's I don't think they have the resources 694 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: to do that. 695 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: Let's assume that they go eighty percent of the way there, 696 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: and then they use that first round draft, that first 697 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: first round draft pick on defense, Dan, are you interested 698 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: with the second first round. 699 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 7: Pick Zeke may Marinelli's defense look real good by the 700 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 7: way he took them dudes off the field was resting. 701 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm not dispeating that Fontay Williams man. This offense looked 702 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: really good last year too, though, Right, And here's the 703 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: thing with Yvonte, I understand, like Love would be awesome, 704 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 3: that's great. I love Jeremiah Love. He's fantastic, great player. 705 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 3: You have way too many needs on defus to where 706 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: even if you get eighty percent of the way. 707 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 7: But it's Christmas time and they had Christmas, and we 708 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: can really go into the draft and take what Jeremiah 709 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 7: Love is a top five player in this draft, and we. 710 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: Got it at twenty. If you got him at twenty, 711 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: would like still right, I want to jail at twenty twenty. 712 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Jail twenty would be a CD LAMB show. 713 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: I guess that's my point, though, Like I think that's 714 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: why I look at this, and I say running back 715 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: is a position that I would consider if the right 716 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: guy fell to me at the right moment where it 717 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: was a steal like ceedee Lamb, I would do it 718 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: somebody of that caliber because I look at it, I 719 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: look at I look at Detroit, and I think somebody 720 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: like Javonte Williams would be a great comparable to a 721 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 2: David Montgomery. Yes, imagine what Love would be in the 722 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs role. Like when you have that kind of 723 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: dual threat at running back and you've got a little 724 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 2: bit of everything. You got the guy that can do 725 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: the the base stuff and do it really really well 726 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: and can pick up the blitz and all those things. 727 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: And then you got just this guy that good luck 728 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: with trying to corral him. He's just he's too fast, 729 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: he's too elusive, he's just it's hard to get him right. 730 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: And he can catch out of the backfield. I think 731 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 2: that takes your offense to a whole different level. And 732 00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: then you throw on top of that, you got the 733 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: wide receivers at Yeah. 734 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: If he's there at twenty, I'm all for it. Okay, 735 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm all but he's not going to be there. 736 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: But not a twelve. You're not there at twel I. 737 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: Find hard to believe he's going to be there at twelve. 738 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: If you traded back twelve and you got to fifteen 739 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 2: and he was. 740 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 5: There twelve, fifteen to twenty all the same thing to me. 741 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: But I know what the reason why I say that 742 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: is because then at fifteen, is fifteen still too high 743 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: for you. 744 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: To take him. It's not even necessarily that it's too high. 745 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: I just think you have bigger needs, Like if you 746 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: have if you have guys that are close enough in 747 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: grade right where they have Jeremiah Love, great is going 748 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 3: to be the biggest thing because it's like a sunny 749 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 3: style from Ohio State is still on the board and 750 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 3: it's him or Jeremiah Love at twelve. I'm taking styles. 751 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: You need a linebacker, you need the guy just doesn't 752 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: miss tackles. And I'm not trying to hate on Jeremiah 753 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 3: Love or disagree with the point that he would be 754 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 3: fantastic in this offense, but I mean this, this offense 755 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: is already great. Ivanta Williams made them a great offense 756 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: because he set up the explosive guys that they had 757 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 3: on the perimeter with keeping the offense on schedule. You 758 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: don't need to change that. Yes, it can get better, 759 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: it can always get better. But if they bring back 760 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: George Pickens, you can still have the same success. And 761 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 3: if you add a dominant defense to that, then you 762 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: can talk about winning some more games and trying to 763 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 3: make a push in the playoffs. 764 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 6: I agree with everything you're saying. I'm on your side, Tommy, 765 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 6: We're on the same side. 766 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the butts coming. 767 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 8: For him for y'all. 768 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 6: Okay, Statistically, the Cowboys have had several years one of 769 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 6: the top the offenses on stats. 770 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 8: Where did I get you? 771 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 2: You're also assuming that a lot of that won't get 772 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: solved by the other players that they get in free agency, 773 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 2: by the new coach. 774 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 6: We're assuming everything here because you're telling you you got 775 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: everything you wanted on this. 776 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 5: You can't assume. I mean, let me, it'll it'll get 777 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 5: you a number one offense. 778 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 8: I'm saying. 779 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 6: Invest like on the defen right now with bringing in 780 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,439 Speaker 6: help to that side. We don't know what's gonna happen 781 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 6: on free agency, but even on top of whatever happens 782 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 6: in free agency, I still think you need to address 783 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 6: it through the I can go ahead. 784 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 7: I can get it, and I'm gonna get it. I'm 785 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 7: gonna get it after you. Football is soon. These moments 786 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 7: in football are so small. If Javonte doesn't get caught 787 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 7: verus Chicago and Denver, both those games go totally different. 788 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 5: You were able to run the ball versus those teams, okay. 789 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 7: Got caught any any fumbled versus the Bears, and the 790 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 7: whole game went bad. If you add an explosive element 791 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 7: to that. And I ain't saying don't draft defense. Sure 792 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 7: draft the defense, but if you add an explosive element 793 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 7: to defense, yeah, you may have been the number one 794 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 7: offense passing the ball, but that balance, that balance some 795 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 7: of these games where you got taken out of because 796 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 7: you didn't have balance, you didn't run the ball well 797 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 7: and in the lay part of these games. Or or 798 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 7: or JJ mccarthin and scored forty on us because he 799 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 7: keep getting the football you killed with a better running back, 800 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 7: would a better dude? 801 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 5: Now you good to Derek? 802 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 2: All right, So let me ask you this question. 803 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 7: That's the question dar beginning people with questions. Boy, so 804 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 7: he make you an answer to your demid do you. 805 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 2: Think do you think the Cowboys have been better on 806 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball in free agency or 807 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: in the draft. 808 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 6: Come on, Gil, Gil, the Cowboys having better on the defense. 809 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: Over the last the last ten years, have they been 810 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 2: better in free agency or in the draft. When you're 811 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 2: talking about defensive. 812 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 8: Players, free agency phenomenal. 813 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 2: So if that's the case, maybe you leaning. And by 814 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: the way you look at the flip side on the 815 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball, they be really good in 816 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: the draft, really really good in the draft. Do you 817 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: not say, Okay, we got to go in and we 818 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: gotta fix this defense with veteran players that we know 819 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 2: what we're getting. We don't want to wait for a 820 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 2: young guy to develop. We'd rather spend in free agency 821 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: to get veteran players that we can surround some of 822 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: the young By the way, they got some young town, 823 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: they got over shown, they got Quin, they got some 824 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: stars on the defense, they need to surround them with 825 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: other players who can play there. 826 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 3: Roll. 827 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 6: So now you're copying what I've been saying. I've been 828 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 6: saying this all along. I agree with what you're saying 829 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 6: right now. I agree that you addressed the defense a 830 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 6: lot better through free agency rather than the draft. We've 831 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 6: seen it happen. But are they gonna do that? Well, 832 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 6: you're looking at the names and the money, and again, 833 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 6: I don't know how much the cap has is going 834 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 6: up this year was going certificant amount? 835 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty four year. 836 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, more than all of us make together. 837 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: Times. 838 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 8: YouTube start over over there, YouTube start. 839 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 7: But but if your last name was Jones, how would 840 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 7: you like? 841 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 5: Like, what side would you? 842 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, they may not do something, but if your last 843 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 7: name was Jones, how would you How would you. 844 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: Go about it? 845 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break and we're 846 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: gonna come back and let her answer that question. 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I kept going during 910 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 2: the break. 911 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 7: See what Okay, what we talked about is I was 912 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 7: still talking about the running back, and I'm not just 913 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 7: I don't want to just take the running back for 914 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 7: the sake of taking the running back. If you get 915 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 7: wiped out on defense, I don't want to curl up 916 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 7: in a shell and be fearful. 917 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 5: I want to stick in there and draft. 918 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 7: What people doing the end at all the time is oh, 919 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 7: we got wipe that defense, or I just trade back. 920 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 5: You can't guarantee a trade back. 921 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 7: You gotta call somebody and be like, hey, what you thinking, 922 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 7: or they got to call you and a player of 923 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 7: great desire got to be there for them to trade up. 924 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 7: So I don't even think about moving picks or whatever. 925 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 7: I want to stay at twelve. I think there's a 926 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 7: scenario if you get wiped on defense, some receivers go. 927 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 7: You know the quarterback is gonna go, and you're looking 928 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 7: at either a running back who's a top three player 929 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 7: in this draft, versus a defender that you might have 930 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 7: a second round grade on. If I'm in that situation, 931 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna cower and be like, oh, I got 932 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 7: a trade back, my damn Cowboys taking Jeremiah Love, who's 933 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 7: a stud top five player in this draft, and we'll 934 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 7: figure it all out later. 935 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: Now, you are you at all concerned if you've already 936 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 2: done a deal with Javonte, no, and you've already spent 937 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 2: a decent amount of Let's say, let's say he got 938 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 2: a deal with he was making eighty year, We got Javonte. 939 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 8: Chris Messin's getting everything. 940 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 7: We Gotte and Jeremiah Love and I love, and I 941 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 7: want shyy to figure out how to use them both. Yeah, 942 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 7: I want to shyy to figure out how to use 943 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 7: them both. 944 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 5: That's how I feel. 945 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. 946 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 5: That's how I feel. 947 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: We just made the decision. It's happening. 948 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,359 Speaker 7: Kenneth Walker had sharbon and Sharpe got hurt. But they 949 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 7: come in pairs, Stevenson and Hendrickson, come and pay us. 950 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 951 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 3: Look again, I'm not disagreeing. 952 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 7: I know, I'm just raising my voice because we ain't 953 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 7: got the table. 954 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 3: Or Cronin said last night don't voice for something. 955 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 5: I don't know who that is. We're just talking about. 956 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 7: I just don't want to be well, I'll take the 957 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 7: cornerback that I got graded in the twenties. 958 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 6: I think we can all agree on something because we've 959 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 6: seen it time and time again, is that they're going 960 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,720 Speaker 6: to draft the best player available, doesn't matter the position. 961 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 6: I mean, with a few exceptions, like they're not going 962 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 6: to draft the quarterback right there. So, but they've told 963 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 6: us time and time again they're gonna have their board 964 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 6: and they're gonna go with the best player available. So 965 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 6: I can see a scenario where that does happen. However, 966 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 6: it does become interesting. What if they do sign Javonta Williams. 967 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 6: What does that contract look like? 968 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 5: Because we're so smart, and you so smart, you think. 969 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 8: You can get everything, it doesn't work out. 970 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 5: Well, No, that's that's that's my that's my reality. You're 971 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 5: so smart. We agree, No, I promise. That was my 972 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,760 Speaker 5: next point. 973 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 7: I'm like, take Jeremiah Love anyway, Javontae not signed a 974 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 7: five year deal, Like what if they think I'm thinking 975 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 7: two more years or something, maybe a guarantee some avoid 976 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 7: at the end. Javontain not gonna be here forever for 977 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 7: a whole another five more years. Take the rookie and 978 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 7: go through your eye as Javonte first is Montgomery first. 979 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 2: And it's rookie money. By the way, it's rookie money. 980 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 7: Then let Jeremiah Love take over in year three and 981 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 7: let him fly because you still need somebody this that 982 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 7: knows the nuances of past pro Okay, I don't want 983 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 7: Jeremiah And if you gotta keep that safe right here, 984 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 7: back in the day, it would have been licky mean, 985 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 7: let's just leave Williams in the and let him do 986 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 7: his thing. And we made the same And by. 987 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 5: The way, you're brilliant. 988 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 3: I think the thing that we have. 989 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 2: The thing that that has to happen in order for 990 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 2: them have the flexibility in the draft to get the 991 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 2: player that they want, who is just the best player available, 992 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 2: is they gotta do it in free agenc. So if 993 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 2: they don't, if they don't go out in free agency 994 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: and fix the things that they need to fix, if 995 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: they don't have bodies that can play the positions that 996 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 2: they need them to play going into the draft, then 997 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: they're handicapping themselves. And then when they get to the draft, 998 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 2: it is what it is. You are forced to pick 999 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 2: because that's all you can do. My thought is that's 1000 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: why you do free agency in the way that we 1001 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 2: want them to do free agency. They gotta go out, 1002 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 2: they gotta get linebackers, they're gonna have to get some 1003 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 2: pass rushers, they're gonna need some cornerbacks, maybe some safeties. 1004 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: And then you walk into the draft and you're like, Okay, 1005 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 2: we could fill the team right now. We fact, we 1006 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 2: can get better. We can fill the team right now, 1007 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 2: and then whatever falls to you, you take advantage of it, 1008 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 2: because if you're not in that position, you don't have 1009 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 2: the flexibility to get a guy like Ceedee Lamb or 1010 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 2: in this instance, if a Jeremiah Love falls to you 1011 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 2: and they really love him like we love him, they 1012 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 2: can They wouldn't be able to say. 1013 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 3: That is absolutely correct in a perfect world, yes, And 1014 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: I don't think that they're in a perfect world. I 1015 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: think they have way too many needs on defense, where 1016 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 3: even in free agency, I don't know if you can 1017 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 3: supplement everything, because you need pass rushers, you need linebackers, 1018 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 3: you need corner you need safety. And at some point 1019 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 3: that that happens to me, let me ask you this 1020 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: as much. 1021 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 2: Yes, are we also assuming? Are we also assuming that 1022 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: Christian Parker without even knowing how he thinks, of what 1023 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 2: he thinks of what kind of scheme he can run, 1024 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 2: and what he thinks of players that last year may 1025 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 2: not have been great players? Can we really make that determination? 1026 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: Like if he came in here and he was like, 1027 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 2: you know what, I've watched this Jamar James kid. I 1028 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: think I can make him into a player. Sure, Like 1029 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: there's a real reality that he could look at a 1030 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: lot of the players that we just dismissed. Because, by 1031 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: the way, every new coach is coming to here, I've 1032 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: seen them at times take a player that we thought 1033 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, and all of a sudden that player 1034 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 2: is playing at a different level. It's like, wow, Wow, 1035 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 2: I'll go ball all the way back to to uh 1036 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 2: no no, I was gonna uh the left tackle back 1037 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 2: when Parcels first got here, they were about to run 1038 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 2: him out of town. That would have been two thousand 1039 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 2: and five. But they're about to run him out of town. 1040 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 2: That I wanted to flow flow and and fans were like, man, 1041 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 2: this guy can't play. Everybody was on this case. And 1042 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 2: the first thing Parcels said, is y'all need to sign 1043 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 2: that guy because he play? And sure enough he went 1044 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: on to have a career. 1045 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 5: He was going to Pro Bowls. 1046 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 2: I mean, he was that kind of player. Like so, 1047 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 2: I I think it happens, and I think there are players. 1048 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: There was a time when guys like who's our right tackle? 1049 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 4: Now? 1050 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,399 Speaker 2: Still still there was a time when people were ready 1051 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 2: run still out of town, and then all of a 1052 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 2: sudden it was like, oh wait, Dyvie might be able 1053 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 2: to play. I just think coaching matters, and coaching can 1054 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 2: get something out of certain players that other coaches just can't. 1055 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 3: You're right, that's right, But how many of those guys 1056 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 3: do you think they have? Forget? 1057 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 2: I understand there will be there may be, there may 1058 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 2: be two, there may be sure, there may be too. 1059 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is, depending on the kind of 1060 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,919 Speaker 2: scheme he's playing, and then depending on what players he says, 1061 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: I can do something with that guy, it might change 1062 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 2: it from you saying hey, we need six guys to 1063 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: saying you know, we really only need three guys. We 1064 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 2: need three real guys. We might By the way, you 1065 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 2: can't fix every problem. No team is without a problem, 1066 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: no right, no team is without a problem. So if 1067 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 2: you had nine guys on defense you felt really great 1068 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 2: about and two that would just kind of like we 1069 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 2: have to kind of cover them a little bit, that's 1070 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 2: a pretty good defense if you got the right scheme, right. So, 1071 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 2: all I'm saying is I think we look at it 1072 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 2: and say, yes, I would love to change six different guys. 1073 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if six is necessarily realistic, nor is 1074 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 2: it what you need in order to be successful. What 1075 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 2: we've always said is, and we said this throughout the 1076 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: year last year, I don't need the top defense in 1077 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 2: the league. I need a top fifteen defense with a 1078 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: top offense, and I can do some damage. 1079 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 3: But if you want a top fifteen defense, you are 1080 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 3: still that far away personnel wise from being there. I 1081 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 3: think even if. 1082 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 2: You're how far away I mean when you said you're 1083 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 2: that far away, what do you mean that? What do 1084 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,399 Speaker 2: you mean? 1085 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,439 Speaker 3: What is that many players away? Sure? 1086 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,880 Speaker 2: Well, but that's what I'm saying. That number, what is 1087 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 2: that number? Because I think right now, yes, you can 1088 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: say I want six guys, I want six new defensive players. 1089 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,320 Speaker 2: I think we can all agree. If you had an 1090 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 2: all you could get everything you wanted. You'd say I 1091 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: could probably take six new players on defense, right, that's 1092 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: probably not realistic. The reality is, if you got three 1093 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 2: really good players, you could change this defense. You could 1094 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 2: change the fortunes of this defense with three really good players. 1095 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I am a believer in that you 1096 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 3: try to get as much depth as you can at 1097 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 3: every position. And sure, yes, you're right, it's impossible and 1098 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 3: that's not college. You're never going to be perfect. But 1099 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: even still, they're just I just think there are so 1100 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 3: many holes to where even if you get those three 1101 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 3: great players, well, things be better, no doubt that. It's 1102 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 3: hard to be worse than it was last season. And 1103 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 3: if you were in that position like we were talking about, 1104 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 3: where you're completely wiped on draft Knight and Jeremiah loves 1105 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 3: staring you in the face versus a second round graded defender, 1106 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 3: absolutely you take the better player because that's a seeding 1107 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: LAMB situation. But if we're talking about straight up free agency, 1108 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 3: do you really feel like they have enough space not 1109 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 3: just with the cap, but to marry it with what 1110 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 3: Christian Parker wants and what is going to be available 1111 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 3: to you potentially in the draft to be able to 1112 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 3: get to that six, whether it be a combined six 1113 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,280 Speaker 3: of guys you keep, guys you add in free agency, 1114 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 3: guys he had in the draft. 1115 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 2: Yes, I think. I think they have enough resources and 1116 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: they can flip switches on a lot of contracts so 1117 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 2: they can make it as much from as they want. Yeah, 1118 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: but I think they have enough money if they're willing 1119 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 2: to do it, to go out and get three impact 1120 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 2: players in free agency. 1121 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 5: On defense, the Patriots added five guys. 1122 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 2: Three is well within there. 1123 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 7: And none of those guys are like superstar we talking 1124 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,839 Speaker 7: about like Kleon Chase, Harold Lamer is a good player 1125 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 7: and middle Williams is playing well. 1126 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 5: He ain't like Aaron Donald or you know what I'm saying. 1127 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 2: Like they at Seattle went out and got a lot 1128 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 2: of guys. 1129 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 7: They added some guys and New England, I just got 1130 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 7: them pulled up. They drafted a tackle and a running 1131 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 7: back first, and they just signed five guys to come 1132 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 7: in and just play for them. 1133 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 5: And they were a team. What they were third overall 1134 00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 5: last year? 1135 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 2: Fourth will will Yeah, they were four and thirteen last year. 1136 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,959 Speaker 2: That was your record. 1137 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 7: They went from fourth overall to we playing in the 1138 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 7: Super Bowl and got wooked. 1139 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 5: You could turn this thing around. 1140 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,319 Speaker 2: I'm telling you a lot of people free agency, like 1141 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,760 Speaker 2: with some regular dude, right agency. 1142 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 3: What are the Patriots doing the draft? They hit on 1143 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 3: so many of their. 1144 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 2: On the offensive side of the ball. They win free 1145 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 2: agency defense too, though. Look at their safety I'm blaking 1146 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: on like safety from Col's name, but he was unbelievable. 1147 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 2: They drafted like I think he was a Day three pick. 1148 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 3: Craig Woods. 1149 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 5: There we go. 1150 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: And that's still my point, Like they used the bulk 1151 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 2: of their great of their assets early in the draft 1152 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball. And I do 1153 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: believe I think it's I think it's a strategy. You're 1154 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 2: seeing the teams that are successful right now, they're really 1155 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 2: going heavy on defense on veteran players because you know 1156 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 2: what you're getting and you can you can take guys 1157 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 2: that and by the way, they're not taking the Michael Parsons. 1158 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 2: They're taking guys that are lesser than that. But you 1159 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 2: put them all together and they're greater than Micah and 1160 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: whatever else you can get. Right. And so my thought is, 1161 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 2: QUI out in free agency, get those kind of guys 1162 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 2: that can fill roles. Let Quinnen be your your I 1163 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 2: was about to say, be a bag bone. Yeah, he's 1164 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 2: your bad dude, right. Let him be the guy that 1165 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 2: that defenses have to have to prepare for. Let overshown 1166 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: be the guy that defenses have to prepare for. Go 1167 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 2: get me some of those mid level guys that can 1168 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 2: play their roles extremely well. Just your job, see ball, 1169 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 2: Go get ball linebacker, right, you know. And if you 1170 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,680 Speaker 2: can do that, yeah, you can get three or four 1171 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,439 Speaker 2: of those guys in free agency this year and free 1172 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 2: yourself up in the draft to go wherever you want 1173 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: to go. 1174 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 3: And that is the absolute correct strategy. But you also 1175 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 3: have to hit and make sure you get the right 1176 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 3: and it's easier. 1177 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,359 Speaker 2: Can you do that, Yes, But it's easier to hit that. 1178 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 2: It's easier to hitting free agency, in my opinion, than 1179 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 2: it is in the draft. You know exactly what you're 1180 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,439 Speaker 2: getting in most absolutely in free agency. So that again 1181 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,439 Speaker 2: I'm saying, give me the veteran guy on defense, Get 1182 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,240 Speaker 2: the guy know what I'm getting, and I'll take chances 1183 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 2: on offense because I got a great offense right now, 1184 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: I'll take my chances on offense. On defense. Side of all, 1185 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,960 Speaker 2: get me guys I know can come in and play 1186 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 2: a role. All right, We appreciate you guys joining the team. 1187 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,280 Speaker 5: There what. 1188 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna, We're gonna. I think we might we might 1189 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,399 Speaker 2: stick with this. 1190 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 3: We're wrong with. 1191 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,320 Speaker 8: Need my table because I needed my coffee so I 1192 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 8: can finish. 1193 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 2: Wait, that's fair, that's fair. We will get We will 1194 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 2: get you a table, or we'll have Tommy hold it 1195 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 2: one or two. We'll get you get your favorite. 1196 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: I'm just sit there like Amber. 1197 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 2: You ready for your laptop? You need coffee? Here we go? 1198 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 2: All right. We appreciate you guys. 1199 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:26,839 Speaker 3: Jones. 1200 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 2: We're back next week for botching on Bardi. Tommy yarsh Ambergarcia. 1201 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 2: I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The Break live on 1202 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1203 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1204 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.