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Speaker 1: There's a great line in the movie The Good Shepherd.

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Speaker 1: I like that movie. No one else did.

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Speaker 2: But it's a movie kind of about the formation of

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Speaker 2: the Central Intelligence Agency and the guy who's forming it.

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Speaker 2: He turns to somebody and he says, I really want

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Speaker 2: this agency to be America's eyes and ears, not its

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Speaker 2: heart and soul. But over time, Central Intelligence Agency, they've

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Speaker 2: gone way beyond their purview and in many ways they

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Speaker 2: have become the heart and soul of this country. So

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Speaker 2: we're about to dig into this. We're going to look

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Speaker 2: back on some of the scandals, and they're not all

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Speaker 2: from ancient times. Many of these are very recent. Let's

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Speaker 2: figure out exactly what this agency is and what they've

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Speaker 2: been doing, shall we.

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Speaker 1: Mike Ben's is going to join us to do that next.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're going to talk about CIA scandals of

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Speaker 2: the CIA, I'm not sure that you could find a

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Speaker 2: better guest than my friend. Mike Ben's, executive director of

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Speaker 2: the Foundation for Freedom Online, is exposed so much it's

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Speaker 2: jaw dropping at this point in time. Okay, Mike, before

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Speaker 2: we get into the scandals, we have so destroyed the

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Speaker 2: intelligence operations in this country that people don't even really

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Speaker 2: understand what CIA is supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: What are they supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: The CIA is supposed to be a plausibly deniable support

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Speaker 4: which is a long way of saying that in nineteen

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Speaker 4: forty eight, when the rules based international order was set up,

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Speaker 4: we needed a way for the State Department to operate

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Speaker 4: a cloak and dagger plausibly deniable black ops shop in

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Speaker 4: order to do the sources of things that would cause

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Speaker 4: was responsible for. So the US government needed a way

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Speaker 4: to make things happen without looking like the US government

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Speaker 4: did it. And that's when it's State Department related, that's

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Speaker 4: usually on US economic grounds or political grounds. And when

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Speaker 4: the CIA work is related to military, it's usually involving

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Speaker 4: paramilitary groups or terrorist groups or other unseemly factions that

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Speaker 4: we are providing military support to.

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Speaker 3: So there's both a political and.

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Speaker 4: A military component to what the CIA is supposed to do.

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Speaker 4: The problem is is because they are a professional political

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Speaker 4: subversive organization literally set up to inaugurate organized political warfare.

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Speaker 4: That's the exact term that George Kennon used is nineteen

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Speaker 4: forty eight memo the inauguration of organized political warfare to

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Speaker 4: give the CIA its remit that political warfare can boomerang

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Speaker 4: back on Americans when the US foreign policy establishment thinks

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Speaker 4: that Americans are domestically going to vote for someone who

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Speaker 4: will undermine their preferred foreign policy agenda. That's what you

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Speaker 4: saw in the nineteen sixties when the CIA was playing

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Speaker 4: around at home to influence left wing groups to stop

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Speaker 4: the anti Vietnam War movement. That's what you're seeing today

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Speaker 4: as the CIA is working to basically do the same

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Speaker 4: thing to the right wing when it comes to the

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Speaker 4: anti war or the nationalist rather than globalist wing of

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Speaker 2: Now, nineteen forty eight to the sixties is not, by

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Speaker 2: any stretch of the imagination, a long period of time, Mike, So,

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Speaker 2: why did they face inward so quickly or did they

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Speaker 4: Well, you could argue that they did from the very beginning.

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Speaker 4: there really was a break in the bipartisan consensus when

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Speaker 4: it came to the construction of the American Empire. There

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Speaker 4: was a fair amount of optimism from the late nineteen

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Speaker 4: war in Vietnam, and then that resulted in scandals during

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Speaker 4: busted constructing front groups like the Congress for Cultural Freedom,

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Speaker 4: and this was all. Gloria Steinem herself would later describe

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Speaker 4: whose role is political subversion first and foremost, sets its

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Speaker 4: sixties and seventies, the CIA was busted in other scandals

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Speaker 4: that was held up by Senator Frank Church and the

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Speaker 4: Church Committee hearings. They were busted in scandals like mk Ultra,

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Speaker 4: the first time in US history, a Senate Intelligence Committee

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Speaker 4: it was done on October thirty five. First that He

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Speaker 4: So he then put the intelligence community through a reorganization

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Speaker 4: Dama for Democracy became the main plausible deniability layer for

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Speaker 4: And so I think several of the scandals we're going

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Speaker 2: Which brings us to the first of the scandals, the

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Speaker 2: fake vaccination Drive.

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Speaker 1: What did they do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was a major international scandal. So in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: But it turns out it was actually these were all

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Speaker 4: these vaccine clinics in order to collect their biometrics. Now,

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Speaker 4: But of course, even that cover story, as scandalous as

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Speaker 4: that is, on its own, I think is quite a

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Speaker 4: was eighty five percent of the population in Iraq, in Syria,

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Speaker 4: these vaccine clinics in order to to collect that, which

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Speaker 4: I think if they were busted in Pakistan, there's an

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Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, the CIA was busted running a fake

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Speaker 4: looked like it was a Cuban social media company set

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Speaker 4: up by Cubans rather than a CIA operation using fundsier

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Speaker 4: mark for Pakistan, then transferred to a CIA contractor and

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00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: then transferred to friendly Cubans in Cuba. And so Zunzanio

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00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 4: means means mocking bird or means hummingbird. So basically it's

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00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 4: the took the Twitter bird idea. They took you know,

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Speaker 4: the like button, the retweet button, They took the same

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Speaker 4: user interface, and they recruited about sixty thousand Cubans onto

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Speaker 4: this platform and the documents I can actually read some

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Speaker 4: of the direct quotes here because it's just incredibly shocking

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Speaker 4: how how devious this whole thing went down. So there

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00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 4: was a surveillance dimension to this CIA social media Twitter knockoff,

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Speaker 4: where they collected a vast database I'm reading a direct quote,

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Speaker 4: A vast database of Cubans, Ands and Neo subscribers, including

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Speaker 4: their age, gender, and receptiveness and political tendencies to be

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Speaker 4: built in the future. And this is according to our

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Speaker 4: These these leaked documents that you can find online. These

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Speaker 4: are pup these are now you know, leaked USA documents.

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Speaker 4: They created a database of every user's political tendencies for

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Speaker 4: political purposes in order to use that data to micro

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Speaker 4: target efforts towards anti and pro government users.

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Speaker 3: So basically they.

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Speaker 4: Segmented all the users according to data to how receptive

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Speaker 4: each user would be to programming and algorithms in their

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Speaker 4: news feed to form what they called smart mobs, that is,

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Speaker 4: to form rental riots if they were given programming to

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Speaker 4: meet up and join this protest. And so they initially

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Speaker 4: lulled people to the platform the way they got sixty

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Speaker 4: thousand users in the first place in Cuba is according

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Speaker 4: to the USA documents, is they started with non controversial

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Speaker 4: content such as sports, music and hurricane updates to build

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Speaker 4: up subscribers, and then introduced political messaging to encourage smart

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Speaker 4: mobs and anti government dissent. So basically they knew that

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Speaker 4: if the algorithms favored overthrowing the government from Jump Street,

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Speaker 4: nobody would join. But if they safely got hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 4: which was their goal of people to the platform, and

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Speaker 4: then once they were already on and locked in and

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Speaker 4: dependent on it, they switched up the algorithms to promote

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Speaker 4: anti government sentiment, to get them to hate their government,

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Speaker 4: to get them to take to the streets and riot

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Speaker 4: that they'd be locked in in a captive audience to

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Speaker 4: do so. So if they're doing that with Cuban Twitter,

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Speaker 4: I think this goes a long way towards explaining the

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Speaker 4: era we just went through with the massive CIA infiltration

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Speaker 4: of actual Twitter and Facebook and YouTube, where a huge

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Speaker 4: chunk of the trust and safety team in all three

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Speaker 4: of the US major social media companies came to be

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Speaker 4: infiltrated by folks with direct ties to the Central Intelligence Agency.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Finally, I have to ask before I let

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Speaker 2: you go for the grand finale, what did they do

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Speaker 2: in Bangladesh?

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Speaker 3: Well, this is incredible.

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Speaker 4: So this just happened three months ago, So earlier this year,

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Speaker 4: the US overthrew the government of Bangladesh. There was a

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Speaker 4: long standing prime minister named Sheik Hasina, who was a

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Speaker 4: very popular, democratically elected prime minister who was basically at

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Speaker 4: political war with the United States. She refused to allow

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Speaker 4: the US to build a military base in Bangladesh. She

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Speaker 4: sort of was refusing to allow Bangladesh to be used

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Speaker 4: for soft power projection purposes by the US into China

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Speaker 4: and India. And there were several conflicts with Meandmark and

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Speaker 4: neighboring regions. So the US wanted regime change. If there's

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Speaker 4: so many components of this story, it's it's mind boggling.

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Speaker 4: But actively the longest short of it is in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 4: the CIA, USAID, and the US State Department all provided

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Speaker 4: tens of millions of dollars to the political opposition group

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Speaker 4: called the Bangladesh National Party the BNP in order to

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Speaker 4: win the election against Hassina, the prime minister. But they lost,

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Speaker 4: and they lost very badly. It was a very lopsided,

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Speaker 4: one sided election, and so the State Department was very

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Speaker 4: dejected about losing the twenty eighteen election. So a CIA

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Speaker 4: cutout called the International Republican Institute the IRI, this was

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Speaker 4: set up. The IRI is the GOP offshoot of the

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Speaker 4: National Down for Democracy NED. NED was the central lynchpin

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Speaker 4: of the nineteen eighty three reorganization of the CIA. It

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00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 4: was conceived in William Casey's office, that was the CIA

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Speaker 4: director under Ronald Reagan in order to be able to

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Speaker 4: fund groups backed by the CIA without them getting direct

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Speaker 4: funding from the CIA. They'd be funded instead by the

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Speaker 4: IRI and the NDI, which is the DNC offshoot of

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Speaker 4: the nd So this.

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Speaker 3: Is a bourne died in the wole CIA cut out.

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Speaker 4: Literally its existence is owed to a letter from the

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Speaker 4: CIA director to set them up as a means to

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Speaker 4: funnel money to CI back groups without having the CIA

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00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: claim the CIA's direct fingerprints on it. So the IRI

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00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 4: submitted a memo to the State Department in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: They called it a baseline assessment. And this is a

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Speaker 4: standard thing that's done when US intelligence is trying to

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Speaker 4: get the lay of the land in a region, for

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Speaker 4: how to run an operation, they do a baseline assessment

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Speaker 4: of all the assets that they have in the region

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Speaker 4: that can be instrumentalized in an operation. And in their

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Speaker 4: baseline assessment, they wrote that it would be politically and

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Speaker 4: feasible for BNP to win the next election organically, that is,

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Speaker 4: they simply didn't have the votes. They lost too badly

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Speaker 4: in this previous election.

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Speaker 3: So they needed.

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Speaker 4: Instead a strategy to quote destabilize Bangladesh politics and to

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Speaker 4: overthrow it in a color revolution through street protests combined

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Speaker 4: with poaching members of the Bangladeshi military to coop the

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister out of office.

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Speaker 3: But there's a cute trick here that they.

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Speaker 4: Pulled, which is so they in this baseline assessment, they

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Speaker 4: surveyed all the different groups within Bangladesh who hated the

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Speaker 4: government that was just elected. And what they settled on

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00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: were two racial minority groups in Bangladesh.

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Speaker 3: The LGBTQ community and.

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Speaker 4: Student groups at Bangladeshi universities who primarily listened to music

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00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 4: like hip hop and rap. And so what the IRA

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Speaker 4: the CIA cutout then proceeded to do over the next

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Speaker 4: over the next six years, was built up a network

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Speaker 4: of two hundred and seventy assets across the l LGBT community,

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Speaker 4: across the Bangladeshi rap and hip hop community, and across

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00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 4: the community leaders of these two racial ethnic groups in

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00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 4: order to drive up anti government dissatisfaction and get them

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Speaker 4: to take to the streets in protests hundreds of thousands

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00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 4: of people strong in mostly peaceful protests that included violence, arson, riots,

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Speaker 4: and attacks on police in order to throw shake Casena

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00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: out of office, which they successfully did. They literally raided

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Speaker 4: the presidential palace. She had to flee the country in

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Speaker 4: a helicopter. She was replaced by a guy who was

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Speaker 4: a former Clinton Global Initiative fellow who Sheaike Hasina. The

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00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: ousted Prime Minister had tried to indict on corruption probes

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Speaker 4: and was only stopped when then Secretary of State Hillary

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Speaker 4: Clinton personally threatened to have the IRS it her son,

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Speaker 4: who is living in the.

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Speaker 3: US if she proceeded with that.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to read just before we sign

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Speaker 4: off on this, I want to read a few direct

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Speaker 4: quotes from these leaked documents from the IRI about their

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Speaker 4: involvement in the CIA running the rap game in Bangladesh.

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Speaker 3: This is incredible.

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Speaker 4: I'm now reading the direct grants that were given in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one. So here is a

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Speaker 4: Bangladeshi hip hop artist named Tofiki Ahmed, and here is

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Speaker 4: what Iri writes to the State Department. Tofiki Ahmed released

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Speaker 4: the first of two music videos under the IRIS Small

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Speaker 4: Grants program for his song Tooy Perish which means you

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Speaker 4: Can Do It, which targets youth in Bangladesh with a

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00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: message of perseverance in difficult times and encourages them in

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00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 4: every possible way, including protests and street movements. The video

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Speaker 4: was produced by IRI and released on YouTube and Facebook.

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Speaker 3: Then they have a.

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Speaker 4: Second entry another grant another US taxpayer money distribution to

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Speaker 4: rappers in Bangladesh to Overthrow the government.

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Speaker 3: To vik Achmed.

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Speaker 4: Released his second music video titled Dot E Da Kaar.

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Speaker 4: The song's lyrics are address a variety of social issues,

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Speaker 4: including poverty and workers' rights. The song was designed to

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Speaker 4: reveal social issues in Bangladesh and build up disappointment and

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00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: dissent to government so as to call for social and

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Speaker 4: political reforms. So the song was designed by the Central

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Speaker 4: Intelligence Agency to build up disappointment and dissent with the government.

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Speaker 4: They even include links to the music videos, which are

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Speaker 4: pretty hilarious, if I if I can say, but they

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00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: ended up recruiting eleven different hip hop artists, giving them,

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Speaker 4: putting them on CIA payroll, and then blaring them to

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00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of Bangladeshi students in a sort of

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Speaker 4: Derek Zulander style call to listen into this music and

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Speaker 4: take to the streets to overthrow their government. I should

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Speaker 4: note that the Obama administration CIA did the same thing

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Speaker 4: in Cuba with a rap group called the Santa Cedro Movement,

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Speaker 4: but this happened starting in the Trump era and then continued.

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Speaker 4: But it's just very funny also when you consider that

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Speaker 4: this is the IRI, which is the gop wing of

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Speaker 4: the CIA. Oh and their work with the LGBT community

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00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: was amazing as well. They spent US tax payer money

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Speaker 4: on transgender dance festivals in order to normalize within the

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Speaker 4: political opposition in Bangladesh. Because these these transgender and gay

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Speaker 4: groups were at the forefront of the street paramilitary activity,

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Speaker 4: they were effectively acting as a local antifund. So you

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Speaker 4: had the Republican CIA promoting transgender dance festivals with CIA

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Speaker 4: rap themes in order to do a BLM style overthrow

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Speaker 4: the government.

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Speaker 2: That's you. You You are the best man. That was

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Speaker 2: a freaking wealth of information.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Keep him on for another hour. I think

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Speaker 1: we should probably wrap up, don't you. We'll do that.

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Speaker 2: Next we have to bring the Central Intelligence Agency to heal.

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Speaker 2: And that gets very, very difficult, doesn't it, Because we're

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Speaker 2: talking about taking on an agency whose job, as we

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00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: just heard Mike Ben's layout, whose job has been to

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Speaker 2: destabilize governments regime change around the world. So we need

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Speaker 2: the government to take on the agency who is specially

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Speaker 2: trained to take on the government. I realize that creates

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00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: a big problem, but it can be done.

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Speaker 1: What we need is a.

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Speaker 2: House and Senate and president with the courage to do so,

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Speaker 2: because you cannot have a bunch of unelected spy chiefs

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Speaker 2: running the United States of America. And we most definitely

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Speaker 2: cannot have the civilian oversight of the Central Intelligence Agency

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Speaker 2: afraid to do oversight. It doesn't work that way. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: you might as well just hand them the keys to

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Speaker 2: the country. So going forward, we're going to need courage.

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Speaker 2: I think we can do it, do it again,