WEBVTT - Selects: Do People Really Run Off to Join the French Foreign Legion?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello folks, and happy Saturday to you. This week's Selects

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<v Speaker 1>episode is my pick. This is Chuck by the Way,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to go with do people really run

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<v Speaker 1>off to join the French Foreign Legion or more typically said,

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<v Speaker 1>do people really run off to join the French Foreign Legion?

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<v Speaker 1>Is from March seventh, twenty thirteen, and honestly I picked

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<v Speaker 1>this one because it was kind of a cool episode

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't know much about the French Foreign Legion

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<v Speaker 1>aside from those supercowl hats that you get when you

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<v Speaker 1>sign up, and people do really run off to join

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<v Speaker 1>the French Foreign Legion. That's the spoiler. So check it

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<v Speaker 1>out and enjoy. Welcome to Stuff You Should Know a

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<v Speaker 1>production of iHeartRadio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Clark and there's twelves will be Chuck Bryant, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes this Stuff you Should Know The Lightning Quick Edition?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this Lightning Quick? Yes? Because of lightning? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a like tornadoes and stuff coming in, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like holding out at the Okay Corral as the

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<v Speaker 1>storm rolls in. But well, we'd also like to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Okay Corral before the storm was getting here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's the point. Yeah, you were saying there

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<v Speaker 1>was a tornado flipping cars on like seventy five up

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<v Speaker 1>north apparently. And I know my dog Buckley is at

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<v Speaker 1>home just waiting to pee all over the place when

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<v Speaker 1>the thunderstarts. So if I can be there and hold him,

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<v Speaker 1>he's fine. The French Foreign Legion, chuck, um. They are

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<v Speaker 1>a fighting force, a military fighting force that one young

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<v Speaker 1>man by the name of Jean Claude van dam ran

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<v Speaker 1>off and joined. Did he really in the movies? Crap?

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. It totally got me. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I never knew. Can you imagine? No, he was? It

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<v Speaker 1>was in the movies. He wasn't really a legionaire. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a bummer. What movie was it? I think legion? Was

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<v Speaker 1>there a movie called Legion or Legionaire? Never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, he's a he's a legionaire. He can he is?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually you can tell. Well, you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that there are that many like big fans, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>bet his big fans are like like big time John

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<v Speaker 1>Claude van Daman, Oh yes, um, like Steven Seagal's fans probably, yeah, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>so just a hardcore you know yeah. Um, but you

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<v Speaker 1>could tell that John Claude van Dam was in this

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<v Speaker 1>movie because he's wearing a hat with a little cape

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<v Speaker 1>in the back. Yeah. The KP is that what it's called. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>spelled k EPI pronounced kpe. And they still wear those

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know it's a it's a tradition that

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<v Speaker 1>is still true today. The little flat cap very stiff

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<v Speaker 1>and rigid. Ye. And uh, they don't always have the capes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when they're out where they need them, they will. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason that they would have them is because for

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<v Speaker 1>the better part of two centuries, the French Foreign Legion

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<v Speaker 1>was stationed in Algeria. Yeah. Uh. And the reason they

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<v Speaker 1>were stationed there is because that's where their headquarters were

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<v Speaker 1>almost from the moment of inception of this um, this

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<v Speaker 1>military group. Yeah. And the reason they were stay they're

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<v Speaker 1>from inception was because they were a bunch of ne'er

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<v Speaker 1>do well criminals in many cases, and so they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you guys are great and you're super tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move you to Algeria. Yeah, to help our colonization

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<v Speaker 1>efforts and get you out of France. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the history first? Yeah, well today, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about today just for one second. Over there are

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand, two hundred and eighty six Legionnaires as of

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<v Speaker 1>December of last year to twenty twelve and to the date,

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<v Speaker 1>to the date, to this date, uh, thirty five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>have died in battle over the years. I saw that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not that bad. But it's a small group,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're seven thousand isn't much, right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>they are the fighting force in the world that has

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<v Speaker 1>seen more continuous action than any other. Oh really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they fight constantly. They've been fighting constantly. Well, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>bad dudes. Yeah, like they're they even say in this article.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're well known to be much tougher than the

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<v Speaker 1>regular French army, right because they're not well they're actually

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know much that has to do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're known for being tough dudes. Yeah, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>also a special forces unit. Yeah, basically, no women. When

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<v Speaker 1>we say dudes, we can say dudes. Yeah, there's never

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<v Speaker 1>been a Fridge foreign Legionnaire who's a woman, and they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been in just about every conflict that the French

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<v Speaker 1>have been in. Yeah, since eighteen thirty and did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that the French Foreign Legion invaded Mexico in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one and stayed there until eighteen sixty five when

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<v Speaker 1>they're finally beaten back. No, I didn't know. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to assassinate the president and install an Austrian prince

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<v Speaker 1>named Maximilian as the ruler of Mexico. Has set it

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<v Speaker 1>up as a French puppet state. I wonder if that

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<v Speaker 1>had any influence on Culinarily speaking, I don't know French food.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see much French stuff pop up in Mexico

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<v Speaker 1>like you do in like Vietnam during that colonial period,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or Indos. Yeah? Why s k okay? So

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to go to the history? Should we

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<v Speaker 1>start out how these guys start? Well? In uh eighteen thirty, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>we tell you a little story about a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>King Louis Philippe. Okay, Uh, it's known as the July Revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>He replaced King Charles ten and X X and H

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<v Speaker 1>after the Bourbon monarchy fell, and this was Parisian radicals

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<v Speaker 1>were involved in this overthrow. So even though he was

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<v Speaker 1>made king in large part because of these radicals and

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<v Speaker 1>because of radicalism, these radicals were some tough guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them were you know, it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>brought in this criminal element in some cases. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't want to say they were bad guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe they were bad guys. Well. The King Louis

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<v Speaker 1>Philippe thought that they were a threat to the monarchy

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, he had gotten to the throne by

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<v Speaker 1>these radicals, and it had attracted radicals from all over Europe,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them were very soldier like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like or former soldiers period, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to France. Let me figure out what to do

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<v Speaker 1>with you. I can't legally make you a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the French army. Yeah, so how about I just make

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign legion made up of foreign dissidents, foreign nationals

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<v Speaker 1>and send him elsewhere. And they were pretty happy with

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<v Speaker 1>that plan. It was March of eighteen thirty one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he laid out his eight articles and pretty much that

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<v Speaker 1>was what the foreign legion was from, who they were

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<v Speaker 1>to be, where were they were to train, what were

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<v Speaker 1>there to where? And a lot of the traditions were

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<v Speaker 1>established in that very first set of articles. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then included in that chuck was one that said that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to UM to check for a birth certificate,

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<v Speaker 1>a certificate of good life manners, and a certificate from

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<v Speaker 1>a military authority saying that this person is a good soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had to have all that if you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to accept a recruit that or um. It was

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<v Speaker 1>up to the commandant's discretion. Yeah. That it reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>of like how they'll be a paragraph and a legal

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<v Speaker 1>contract that says all these things. At the very end

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<v Speaker 1>it'll say like or we could just change our mind

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<v Speaker 1>about all that, right, So basically, yeah, we need all

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<v Speaker 1>these papers and documents. And that was in our article

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<v Speaker 1>seven or article six, and then the seventh article said,

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<v Speaker 1>or just let them in if you' you know, have

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<v Speaker 1>a good feeling right about them exactly. And I worry

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<v Speaker 1>about the papers so much. And that led to this

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<v Speaker 1>thing called UM and known nimatmat yes, which is anonymity

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<v Speaker 1>in French. And it says that you can join the

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<v Speaker 1>French Foreign Legion under an assumed name, because we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to give you an assumed name one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first year of your service in the French

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign Legion. You need to basically take on an assumed name.

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<v Speaker 1>You're leaving your old identity behind. And that's a really strange,

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<v Speaker 1>unusual aspect of the Legion that still exists today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it was mandatory until just a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Until twenty ten, you had to sign up under a

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<v Speaker 1>different name, and then at the end of that year

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<v Speaker 1>you could go through a process called military regularization of

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<v Speaker 1>the situation, which basically meant you could get your old

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<v Speaker 1>papers back from your home country and go back to

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<v Speaker 1>your old name. Right, And you can still do all that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not mandatory any longer. No, But a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys it's like the fresh start, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're looking for. A lot of men who

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<v Speaker 1>join the army, and that's one of the every country.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things that the French Foreign Legion

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<v Speaker 1>touts when you when you join, it's that we're a

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<v Speaker 1>place you can have a second chance. Yeah, forget your past,

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<v Speaker 1>even forget your name. Minor criminal records. I mean back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day they would accept major criminals. Now they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little more selective and they'll overlook like a minor

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<v Speaker 1>criminal record, but nothing like they want accept murderers and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. Right, And for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>they would accept nothing, no one but foreign nationals. You

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't be French and join the French Foreign Legion. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you could join the army, but not the foreign Legion. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They recently changed that, so you can be French and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoin it, right, Yeah, And you can gain your French

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship as a foreign national by serving what three years?

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<v Speaker 1>Three years in good standing? Yeah, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go back to your original name and stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're going to get citizenship, you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it under your declared name. Right. And you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>that the what was it called where you go through

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<v Speaker 1>that process of the military regularization of the situation. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such a weird name for name change. It really is,

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<v Speaker 1>um But it's not just the name change. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>like that represents the end of your first year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it represents the end of the French Foreign Legion owning

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<v Speaker 1>you during this time. During your first year, you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>have a civilian bank account, you can't get married, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't wear civilian clothes even off duty. You can't buy

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<v Speaker 1>a car, you can't travel abroad on leave to anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>but France. You have to wear your uniform. Yeah, all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Yeah, in some form or fashion you have

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<v Speaker 1>to wear a uniform. So yeah, it's um they own

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<v Speaker 1>you for the first year. It's definitely harder than the

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<v Speaker 1>French Army. Like you said, yeah, and whatever status. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're married and you join the French Foreign Legion, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to enlist as a single man, right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I guess you can remain married technically,

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<v Speaker 1>but the papers say that you're a single man. I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine if you run off to the French Foreign Legion,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the marriage might be on shaky ground as it is,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're not married. Yeah, this good point. They're probably

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<v Speaker 1>not of like already married men. Doesn't seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>very family supportive place. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you are getting away from a situation or something like that. Honey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to deny your existence and change my name,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really worth it because I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a legionnaire and where and where the kp right and

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<v Speaker 1>gain the respect of the French. You think I'm just kidding, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's funny is they are I read an article.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an article in the December twenty twelve Vanity Fair

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<v Speaker 1>called the Expendables. That's pretty interesting. It's about the French

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<v Speaker 1>Foreign Legion what they're doing now. Yeah, I saw some

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<v Speaker 1>of that. You remember in our gold episode talked about

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<v Speaker 1>illicit gold mining in Guiana. Yeah, apparently one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that Foreign Legion's doing now is they're fighting those

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<v Speaker 1>gold miners now, shutting that down. That's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things they're doing because Afghanistan's winding down for the French,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're kind of looking for new stuff to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's one of the things new guys to go

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<v Speaker 1>beat up. Right, Your first contract if you join up

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<v Speaker 1>as a legionnaire, is a minimum of five years and

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<v Speaker 1>pay for a corporal starting out is one forty three

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<v Speaker 1>I guess euros per month plus of course, you know

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<v Speaker 1>all room and board, but that's your take onme pay

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<v Speaker 1>right or not. I don't know about takeome, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>your salary and you get forty five days leave and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know there is a path to prosperity to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree in success just like any other army, you

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<v Speaker 1>can work your way up through the officer ranks and

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<v Speaker 1>after that first five years, successive contracts are six months

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<v Speaker 1>to five years and I'm not sure how they determine that,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's up to you, like if you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to go six months of time here, guys, gotcha?

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<v Speaker 1>Or I'm not sure. I couldn't actually find any information

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<v Speaker 1>on that. If they're like, no, you you must sign

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<v Speaker 1>for three years, right, six months whatever. Yeah, they're like

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<v Speaker 1>you'll probably be dead by then anyway, so and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>keep all of your euros. So in that article, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I was that I came across was

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<v Speaker 1>that the the the legionnaires view themselves and apparently are

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<v Speaker 1>viewed by the French as that's why the articles called

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<v Speaker 1>the expendables as basically there to fight and kill and die, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that there's a lot of honor in dying, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's unnecessarily. But they're just they kind of are nihilistic.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the impression. And I think they even used

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<v Speaker 1>that word. They're nihilists really, well hilists, not say nihilists. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I did read part of the article though, and they

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<v Speaker 1>said that normal people don't join the French form legion right.

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<v Speaker 1>They said they're all just a little little off, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, good about. They're tough dudes, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the span The Spanish tried the same thing in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty they tried to form the Spanish Foreign Legion and

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't take so now it's just called the Spanish Legion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's made up of Spaniards. Yeah. And some folks say

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<v Speaker 1>America could try something like a foreign legion with the

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<v Speaker 1>influx of non Americans in this country to maybe serve

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<v Speaker 1>under our regular armies. And I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 1>ever been pitched. Patial citizenship should be in the Dream Act. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>why not, dude, I don't know. I'm sure people would

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<v Speaker 1>be like, this is why not? Well, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>email us later. Yeah. I didn't consider it. It just

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<v Speaker 1>came to my head. Um, you got anything else? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I want a KPE. I'll get you one for your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when those were like hip in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighties with the breakdancing. Uh? Yeah, those are awesome. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so funny what different cultures latch onto from different eras. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yes, somebody said that will look very cool

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm doing a headspin. Yeah, and the KPE was adopted.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome breaking Ohio, like the Painter's cap and uh. When

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<v Speaker 1>I was just growing up, the painter's cap and the

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<v Speaker 1>bicycle caps were very big in the eighties. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the bike caps with the billful. I had a couple of,

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<v Speaker 1>like Italian ons. I just thought it was so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the name of that one brand that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>had the bike had, you know what I'm talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>trek No, it was like a French name, I believe. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Uh, I think I had one though.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought like, it's similar to the word champion, shamano

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<v Speaker 1>or something. But it wasn't that Japanese. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you mean, it's gonna come to me. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it is Japanese. I'll bet it's Italian or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm saying it's Japanese shimano. Yeah. I love it

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<v Speaker 1>when we do these things though, where we can't think

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<v Speaker 1>of something, because we always get emails where people like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming in my home the name we're sorry for all

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<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, that sounds close. It's not. It's not so

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<v Speaker 1>close that that we're not going to get emails. But

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<v Speaker 1>those of you screaming right now, settle down, grab you

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<v Speaker 1>only get a hold of yourselves podcast If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn more about the foreign legion. You can type

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<v Speaker 1>that word or those words into the search barhostuffworks dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and that will bring up this fine article. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go, and I said search bar. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>time for listener mail. I guess before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>for listener mail. Yeah, this is from Donato and it's

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<v Speaker 1>about autopsies. Dudes, just finished listening to how on autopsies work.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention a couple of things. I'm currently

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<v Speaker 1>in law enforcement and have attended a few of them.

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<v Speaker 1>My first one was really fascinating. The emmy tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get me to vomit, like handing me a brain to

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<v Speaker 1>pass to his assistant, but it actually really turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be extremely exciting for me. So screw you, emmy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not vomiting. Look at me. I'm juggling in sprain.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I wanted to point out you did not

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<v Speaker 1>mention the extraction of vitreous fluid from the eyeballs using

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<v Speaker 1>a needle. That part was a little freaky to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to admit, and after a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>asked why it was done, which leads me to to

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<v Speaker 1>toxicological Toxicological examination. Fluids and samples from some organs are

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<v Speaker 1>sent for examination in these cases, and in my experience,

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<v Speaker 1>Emmy's will not provide a final autopsy before toxicology results

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<v Speaker 1>come back. And lastly, the difference between cause and manner

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<v Speaker 1>of death COD and m D. They are used interchangeably often,

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<v Speaker 1>but COD is the physiological mechanism responsible for death, where

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<v Speaker 1>MD is the explanation how the COD came to be.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, asphyxia is the COD and is the MD

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<v Speaker 1>if a person is smothered with their pillow gota. So

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<v Speaker 1>CD can be considered purely medical, while the MD is

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of medical and investigative and evil and evil.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope it did not double tap something you

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<v Speaker 1>guys covered. Oh that's an old timing reference. Nice call

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<v Speaker 1>out to green Berets Delta Delta Force. Thank you, Donado,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Donato. Appreciate that he's written in before. Awesome, Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for writing in again. Has he made listener mail before? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what he wrote in before after. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just winked at chuck Um. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>See if you can get on listener mail twice. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone ever has, right, well, Sarah the Amazing eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>probably fifteen year old. Yeah, that's right, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>correcting me. And Sarah, come on, we haven't had a

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