1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's time for the Almost Famous 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: podcast where we get to hear well from past Bachelor 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: contestants and Bachelor contestants, but also are wonderful Ashley, like 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: can Eddie Ashley? What's going on? Oh? Hi? Ben? I 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: don't know, not much for me right now, just waiting 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: for this kid to come out, but also very terrified, 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: not looking forward to it. I want my body back, 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: but I also don't want to go through what's about 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: to happen to me. I mean talk about terrifying, okay, right, 11 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: but so many people have done it. You're a strong human. 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: You're going to do great. Strongest human really not You're 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: a strong But have you are you starting to getting nervous? Yes, 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm very nervous. I'm not starting to get nervous like 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: I have been nervous a couple of months. Like a 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: month ago, I was just nervous about like parent hood 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: and adjustment, and now I'm just straight up nervous about labor. 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not worried about parenthood at all. You're gonna 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: be a great mom, You're gonna do great. I I 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: have full confidence um, you're becoming a parent today too. 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually so. I don't know if anybody out there 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: has ever had this happen, But last night I flew 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: in from that golf tournament in Orlando, and I had 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: a ton of stuff to do in the afternoon because 25 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I've been gone for four days. And I got home 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: and my cell phone reception was completely out, and my 27 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: wife I was out like nothing was working, and so 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: I just had to like, no call, no show every 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: meeting I had until I found data about twenty miles 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: from my house and I could text and email people. 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: And that's what I did for an hour and a 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: half last night. So, um, we rescheduled the podcast for 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: this time today so we get out, which is why 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: you guys heard um from Peter and Dustin yesterday. I 35 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: did that solo. Yeah, and uh and now I'm missing 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: picking up Whalen because we were doing the podcast now, 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: so it's like, isn't exactly the most fun thing ever. 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: So Jess went down to pick him up. He'll come 39 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: up and hang out with us here this afternoon. I'm 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: nervous about that. I had a dream last night. It 41 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: doesn't like me and I don't know we'll see. We 42 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: met him before, though I know I don't know if 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: he liked me. I didn't. I didn't exactly ask him. 44 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: I got nervous. But he is on his way. Jes 45 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: so much puppy stuff. Our house is covered in puppy 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: things right now. It is absolutely wild what a puppy 47 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: needs or what she thinks that pupp people want as 48 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: an eight week old, but she is. He has a 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: TEMPERA pedic bed. I mean the bed is more comfory 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: than the bed I sleep on. Nice ben Listen a 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: little tip from somebody who does know how to puppy parent. Um, 52 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: you will be overwhelmed and maybe even annoyed and kind 53 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: of like maybe regretful or at least like questioning your 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: decision for a little bit, maybe like three to six months. Crap, 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: because like they're when they're peeing everywhere, like Lois would 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: pee on our bed, Like that was what was annoying, 57 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: because then you have to change the sheets all the time, 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: and like you just don't know how to break the habit. 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: Are you guys going to be strict, Like do you 60 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: feel like you're going to like properly train We didn't 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: properly train Yeah, we have a plan. So I'm actually 62 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: leaving UM for this podcast, going up to San Francisco 63 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: for a few days, UM for the A, T and T. 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a podcast in there. Um. I'm gonna 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: be gone for about a week and a half. Now, 66 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: Jessica will be here with the puppy and she's going 67 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: to start working with him. She's very excited about this, 68 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: and we planned this ahead of time. And then in March, 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: we're actually going to Israel and so we're gonna send 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: him to puppy school for the two weeks where in Israel. UM, 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: we've been advised by that, and so we'll get him 72 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: trained in Like he's just gonna have like the intensive 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: two week training UM with somebody that we trust and know. 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: So we're hoping that how helps. We also have a 75 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: bell tied to all of our doors now that I 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: did not understand, and I guess she hopes he hits 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: the bell when he needs to go to the bathroom. 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: Do you have a fence in backyard? No, we have 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: electric fence. UM that doesn't work. So we're just gonna 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: like act like it works. And I don't know's that's 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: a good idea. Do you guys have coyotes around there? Uh, 82 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: we do. He's gonna be a big dog. I'm not 83 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: ever going to let him go out alone. There's bear 84 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: and mountain lion. I'll always be out with him. I'll 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: walk him a lot. We'll make sure this dog is 86 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: as safe as safe can be. Well. Hey, actually right, lastly, 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: where'd you get the name Whalon from Whalen Jennings. I 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: love Whalen Jennings. I want to name our kid Whalen. 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: She said, you can name the dog Whalen. I said, okay, 90 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: that's just like you know that Blake Sheldon song. You 91 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: name the kids and I'll name the dogs. Yeah. Yeah, 92 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: it's kind of what's going on. So that's kind of 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: what's going on with us too. Yeah. I don't I 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: don't know who ol drinking Ashley. We have a huge 95 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: podcast in front of us breaking down this week's episode 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: of um Clayton season of The Bachelor. I'm interested to 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts and how you made it through this episode. 98 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: I felt like it was a lot of back and forth. 99 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I felt like, um, I've enjoyed every episode. I guess 100 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: there's only been two, and this is the first one. 101 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: That felt slow to me a little slow. But we'll 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts. We come back after the break. Funny 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: that you said how you made it through this episode, 104 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: because guess what, I didn't. You didn't make it through. 105 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: What do you mean? I fell asleep in the last 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: ten minutes. Is that because of the episode or just 107 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: because of life? Right now? I think it's both. I 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: think it was both. Um. I mean, I wasn't totally asleep, 109 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: but it was that kind of asleep. And you're like, Okay, 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna watch this with my eyes close and 111 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And you like try 112 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: to listen, but then you're in and out like it 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: was slow. Yeah, it was slow. It was, but it 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: doesn't take away from us breaking it down. We did 115 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: start this episode with kind of the cliffhanger drama of 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: episode two, which feels like it was a month ago, 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: but it was really only two weeks ago. Um. We 118 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: have the Cassidy and Shana thing going on. Um, we 119 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: have women now starting to speak out and tell Clayton 120 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: about the drama going on in the house. Ashley, kick 121 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: us off, Start us off. We begin this episode with 122 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: the cocktail party. Yeah, so we leave off, of course, 123 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: not knowing whether Cassie is gonna get her roast taken away. 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: They have two conversations, both which Cassidy was like, I'm 125 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: not going I am not invested in this thing at home. Yeah, 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: she denies seeing someone at home, so she hasn't had 127 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: a relationship since two thousand nineteen and um, she hasn't 128 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: talked to a guy in a long time. But then 129 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: she also kind of admits there's like a friend that 130 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: she has at home, um, that she's slept with a 131 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: few times over the past few months, but that she's 132 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: already falling into something with Clayton. Um. Again, I really 133 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: do truly believe her. And when when she says it's 134 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: just like a friends with benefits situation, it was like 135 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: maybe a situation at home that she was like sort 136 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: of hopeful about, but like it wasn't going in her direction. 137 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: You know that we debated this with Connor two weeks ago, 138 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: and I still kind of feel like there's a lot 139 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: of people in that position when they go on the show, 140 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Like you know, there's always like somebody and everybody's head, right, 141 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: I mean, when you're in your twenties and you're single, 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: I feel like there's always someone you're like wondering if 143 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: it might work out with. Uh. The only thing that 144 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: was interesting was that Sierra did say something like, um, 145 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: there's a guy back, because she was the tattle tattle 146 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: tale in this situation, the one who told Clayton about 147 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: Cassidy having a guy at home, and she said something 148 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: along the lines of, um, there's a guy at home 149 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: like waiting for her, or like that she that she 150 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: really likes that she's hoping it's going to work out with, 151 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: or like going on the show is going to make 152 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: him jealous type situation. And I can also believe that 153 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: that's a different situation. I mean, I think if we 154 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: look at this thing, let's be honest. You're in your twenties, 155 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: you're single, you're dating. Yeah, you're not gonna stop dating 156 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: because you're going on this show. If you meet somebody 157 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: and you're super into them, while also at the same 158 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: time you believe you're still going to go on the Bachelor, 159 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: I think the right thing to do would just say, Hey, 160 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go on this Bachelor show because 161 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: I've met somebody I'm into and interested in. That's happened 162 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: many times before. Also, but yeah, but that's like when 163 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: the other person is down to commit. If you're dating 164 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: and you're not into this person and they're just the 165 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: friends with benefits or whatever you want to hall of. 166 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: If you're just casually hanging out with him and you're like, 167 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: this isn't my husband, or this isn't my wife, this 168 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: isn't my partner, then I'd say a lot of people 169 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: in that situation it is completely fair for you just 170 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: to go on the show, even if you went on 171 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: a date two weeks before you want on the show, 172 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: because you have no clue where this show is gonna 173 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: speak out. Now. The difference here is she meets Clayton, 174 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: if she's really into him, now she's cutting this guy 175 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: off in her mind and she's moving forward, go for it. Um. 176 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: I think also, though, that that different thing going on 177 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: the other side. Different scenario is if in her head 178 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just gonna go back home to this guy. 179 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here as long as I possibly can. 180 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't think Clayton and I are gonna get married, 181 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: And so this guy is gonna be at home waiting 182 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: for me, and he's gonna be really jealous because now 183 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have all this attention from going on the show. 184 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: I think that would be a problem, which I think 185 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: probably Clayton is trying to figure out if she sees 186 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: this as a game, yeah, or if she actually sees 187 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: this as something she's really into, because it's hard to 188 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: tell right now. Very well put and I think he 189 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: just didn't want to risk it and he sent her home. Yeah. Well, 190 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like super dramatic. It wasn't. She handled 191 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: it relatively, Yeah, I mean it wasn't super dramatic. I 192 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: think her Instagram stories are obviously, yeah, a lot more dramatic. 193 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: We talked about those last week where she kind of 194 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: came out and called out Clayton, you know, called out 195 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: some of the other ladies, and uh, that seems more 196 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: dramatic than what happened on the show. But Cassie's gone. 197 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: The rose was pulled, so it leads us down to 198 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: the rose ceremony. Ashley, any shockers here for you anything 199 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: right now? That some women that I mean, here's the 200 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: problem with this season. With taking the week off, I 201 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: felt like I was just starting to get to know 202 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of them and then I take you know, 203 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: two weeks off of the show, and I forget all 204 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: their names, and I forget a lot of the connections, 205 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: but some of the most of the favorites, the ones 206 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: that like have stood out to me, are still there. Yeah, Kate, 207 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: Tessa and NC go home. I can't I can't at 208 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: all come up with their faces in my head. Of course, 209 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: that they wait till the very end for Cheney and 210 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: for Elizabeth to get their roses, and they're the villains 211 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: and not the villains. They're the enemies right now. Um, 212 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: but they both they both get roses and Shana Shane 213 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: Shane is like, I'm here to win. They are parts 214 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: of Sheney during this episode that I kind of vibed with. 215 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: I was like, I get you, but she is quite villainous. 216 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: She's actually she's got a mean streak we haven't seen 217 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: in a while. I feel like, I mean, I don't 218 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: want to say I was right, but when the season started, 219 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: I said I think this this person. Week one, I said, 220 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: she's got a little bit more to uncover than we've 221 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: seen you and I believe it's still yet to be 222 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: fully seen, and we're gonna see it more as the 223 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: season goes on. We saw a little bit of it 224 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: this episode. But um, after the road ceremony, the episode, 225 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: this new episode really kicks off with a group date. Um. 226 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: A lot of the ladies are at this point are confused. 227 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: They think the drama is getting in the way. I 228 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: don't know if they've never seen this show before, but 229 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks are usually full of drama 230 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: and the usually is getting in the way. You just 231 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: gotta rise above it. But they're tired at this point. 232 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: Uh that you know, they're a little exhausted, a little traumatized. 233 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: I think was the word uh that would say that. 234 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: They would say, So, here's a group date. Susie reads it. Serena, Susie, Eliza, Mara, Marlina, Hunter, 235 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: Genevieve and Jill are going on this date group date 236 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: cards says, I see you love Clayton. Yes. So this 237 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: is one of those group dates that they're seemingly incorporating 238 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: into every season now where it's kind of like a 239 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: therapy group session. This one is led by Caitlin Bristow 240 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: and basically she starts out by saying, like, stand up 241 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: if you if there's part of yourself that you're not 242 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: proud of, and then or that you would like to 243 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: change or something along those lines, and everybody stands up 244 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: and the kind of the common thread, the common theme 245 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: in all these stories is how people changed in relationships 246 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: for other people or they behaved in their past relationships 247 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: in ways that they didn't that they weren't proud of. 248 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: And it's just one of those like really getting to 249 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: know you things and it's very emotional. And at the end, 250 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Clayton reveals that he um has a lot of insecurities 251 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: with his body, which is you know, after talking to 252 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: Ben Smith a few weeks ago, it seems like a 253 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: common theme for both the men and women. Um, these 254 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: are great dates. Uh, And we've said it before when 255 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: Nick hosted this one with um was it Katie season? Uh? 256 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: He hosted this date And Uh, they're incredible dates because 257 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: I do think they feel like an actual date. You're 258 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: getting to know somebody, You're getting to hear from somebody. 259 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: You're also allowing the space to help somebody maybe heal 260 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: a little bit, or to get some frustrations out there 261 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: in a safe environment. Right. You know, we hear um 262 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: some women talk about their insecurities. We also hear obviously 263 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: some of the topics that we know the show needed 264 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: to be talking about talking about um racism, what it's 265 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: like to be somebody of color, UM, what it's like 266 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: to have past relationships that are unhealthy. These are all 267 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: topics that really um for a viewer, and I hope 268 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: for the contestants. I would just try to put myself 269 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: in their shoes. I would think these are really good 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: dates to be on. Now. Uh, it's kind of weird 271 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: this episode because we go from this day to have 272 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: a bay Watch date, so I think one group really 273 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: you know that the weight shifted to a complete opposite thing. 274 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: But Caitlin did a great job at hosting this. It 275 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: was good to see her on our televisions. Um. We've 276 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: gotten to see a lot of her own televisions. UM. 277 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: But I enjoy these dates. I will say that I 278 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: am not against instead of you know, the wedding dress 279 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: date and the wedding photo date, like this maybe replaces 280 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: it and as the constant date that happens every season. 281 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm all for it all for it gets us to 282 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: know them more, and it gets of course all of 283 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: them to get to get to know each other more. 284 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: The group time, the group time portion, the you know, 285 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: the cocktail portion of the state. The The standout moments 286 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: I feel like are with Serene, who talks about how 287 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: she just feels so comfortable with him right off the 288 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: bat um and he says pretty much the same thing 289 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: about her. She talks about how Um her family is 290 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: not emotional, so like dates like this are kind of 291 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: like a shock to the system. Um, but he says 292 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: that they feels like they have a strong connection. Then 293 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: there's Susie, who I still feel, especially after watching this scene, 294 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: he's so much more into her and she's into him. 295 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: The more I watched their interaction, like, I feel like 296 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: she's gonna keep getting Rose after Rose, all the validation, 297 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: and then she's going to be that girl like Top 298 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: four who runs away and he's going to be devastated 299 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: because I think his plan is to pick her. I 300 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: have a theory after this data, especially it's not far 301 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: off yours, she won't be the only one that runs 302 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: away this season the last six. It's gonna be hard 303 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: for him to keep all of them there. Wait, why 304 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: do you think that? Because I just get the sense that, 305 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: like a few of these women are really into Clayton 306 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: right now, and it makes sense. It seems great, Um, 307 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: but with watching the teasers, seeing some of the stuff 308 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 1: he says, seeing how emotionally is I have a feeling 309 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: that like, even if they're into him, at some point 310 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: they go, yeah, I'm not. I just can't continue this, 311 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Like I can't leave this in an engagement, and so 312 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take myself out of it and he's 313 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: gonna be like, crap, like I messed up. This is 314 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: just my theory, Okay, but we'll watch it as the 315 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: season goes on. Yeah, the group they you know, the 316 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: group they portion of this with Clayton or with Caitlin leading, 317 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: It almost felt like a cocktail party right there talking. 318 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: They're conversing amongst each other. They're all in the same circle, 319 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: in the same group. Um, so you know, the cocktail 320 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: party itself was just a good add on to that. 321 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: I feel like they got closer. Some of these relationship 322 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: did build. We got to see a little bit. But 323 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: let's move on to the on on one this week. Um, 324 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: Sarah gets the invite to the one on one and 325 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: we see a familiar face beckat Kuffrin uh kind of 326 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: hosting the date or showing up for the date. Yeah, 327 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: so they have to do like a whole bunch of 328 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: embarrassing things like run around l A and their underwear, which, 329 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: like Sarah feels, is super weird and like, yeah, I 330 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: get it. I had to drive a tractor in downtown 331 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: l A in my bikini. I think that was like 332 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: a little more demoralizing because the underwear that they gave 333 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 1: them looks like a like Olympics swimming suit. It's not 334 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: like it's pretty covering, it's not that embarrassing. It's like 335 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: a sports bra in my opinion. Honestly, no big deal here. 336 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: He's the one that does have to run around the boxers, 337 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: which can be a little weird. Um they have to 338 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: do they have to sing about each other's about their 339 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: feelings for each other on a mic in the middle 340 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: of the park. Like it's awkward, but of course they're 341 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: getting out of their comfort zone, right, Um, I just 342 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: like don't feel this at all? Is that horrible? I 343 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: just don't feel their chemistry. I do later on at 344 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: the dinner portion, like I get it way more, but 345 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: not during this day the day day. Maybe it's just 346 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: the awkwardness. Um it is a you know, it is 347 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: one of Clayton's first one on ones and so it's 348 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: hard to know how to navigate it. And you're doing 349 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: a bunch of like ridiculous things together. Uh yeah, I 350 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: would agree with you. I mean, the dinner portion did 351 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: seem to like connect them a little bit more. She 352 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: talks about her being adopted and she actually felt like 353 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: she didn't belong and she she had a lot of 354 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: like emotional issues because she was given up from her 355 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: biological parents and um it also for her parents, she like, 356 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, she looks different from them, she has totally 357 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: different ethnic background. Um. But of course she loves her 358 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: adopted family. But she said, like it took her a 359 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: while to realize, like all the love there makes sense, 360 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: and it does, and they you know, like I said, 361 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: those are the Those are the moments during this episode 362 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: that I enjoy because ultimately, the drama back home will 363 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: get into that in a second, because shrimp Gate was 364 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: kind of happening throughout this thing as well. But you know, 365 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: the the drama is always entertaining up to a point. Um, 366 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: But the connection and hearing these people's stories are the 367 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: things that will I think, kind of grasp onto and 368 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: hold onto and understand as they continue to try to 369 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: build their relationship and to see how Clayton responds to 370 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: these those type of things. It's really important, Um is 371 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: he gonna be there for them? And is he going 372 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: to continue to reinforce like his support of them even 373 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: within their insecurities and and but yeah, let's skip into 374 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: during this whole thing, shrimp gates going on. It's it's 375 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: a little bit wacky. Don't need to hear the words 376 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: shrimp ever again, jo Shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp, shrimp. 377 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: It's a lot. So basically, guys, I mean, you you 378 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: saw the episode, you know what happens. Elizabeth makes some shrimp, 379 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: not a ton, you know, maybe like a twenty pieces 380 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: or something, and Chanai, her arch enemy um decides that 381 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: she's going to go take like like fifty of the 382 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: shrimp because she calls out for everybody to help themselves, 383 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: and she certainly helps themselves, so helps herself. And it 384 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: doesn't go over very well. Of course there's tension from it, 385 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: but shouldn't. I also doesn't eat them all for herself. 386 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: She does go around and like offer them and she 387 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: of course makes it the biggest deal because during this offering, 388 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Elizabeth doesn't acknowledge the kindness you want to look at her, 389 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: and it's just all ridiculous. And this is where the 390 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: drama that I normally like. I was talking to Peter yesterday, like, yeah, 391 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: I do enjoy drama. It's fun. I think that, like 392 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: the second episode was full of actually interesting drama. But 393 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: this stuff is so silly and this doesn't keep me captivated. No, 394 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: I want to know what the producers are doing at 395 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: this point, Like they're sitting back to like this is awesome. 396 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: This is gonna be so good. She's gonna take some 397 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: shrimp and it's gonna be a big deal and then 398 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna make everybody talk about it for a long 399 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: portion of this episode and totally distract from anything else 400 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: going on. I you know, I don't even know how 401 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: to respond to this, Ashley, because I feel like, as 402 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: a viewer, I was watching this being like, both of 403 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: these people should not make a big deal about it. 404 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: Elizabeth made shrimp, she offered it up like, oh, you 405 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: know whatever, that's great. We had a lot of people 406 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: when we were in the house cooking food for other people. 407 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: They loved cooking, or they knew how to cook, and 408 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: they would cook and offer it up to the masses 409 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: to enjoy. Now, Elizabeth did that and Chaney took it. Now, 410 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: should have say, taken the shrimp from the some from 411 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: the person that she's in, you know, disagreements with No. 412 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: I don't think I was smart. I think she knew 413 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: a little bit that it was gonna cause dramma being antagonistic. Yeah, 414 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: but at the same time, Elizabeth could have just shaken 415 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: it off, made a little more shrimp. She's not paying 416 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: for the shrimp. The show's paying for the shrimp. She 417 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: could have passed the shrimp off, made a little bit more. 418 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Said Hey, I'm just not going to get in the 419 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: weeds on this. But I think at this point we're 420 00:23:54,440 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of in the the cyclone of issue right now, 421 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: like where they're arguing. Yeah, so this thing was a mess. 422 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: Um absolutely a mess, so weird, but it's not gonna stop. 423 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: We're in the cyclone of drama right now. I think 424 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: drama everything is gonna be a little sensitive, and I 425 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: think that's what we saw here. Well, Ashley, we have 426 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: one more group date to get to in this podcast. 427 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: At this point, you're pretty close to falling asleep. I 428 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: stayed up through the actual um bay Watch part of it. Okay, 429 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: you know when it comes to the kitchy dates like this, 430 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: I actually kind of enjoyed it because I don't know, 431 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: I guess like you have all the girls in the 432 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: same outfit and they're they're participating in the same competition, 433 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: and we gotta figure out which one's as the best. 434 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Salomo running was kind of fun. I 435 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: actually think that Sena mean like she made a a move, 436 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: her move like it worked. She was hot. I think 437 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: he was into it. Um. Then there was Gabby who 438 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: showed off her goofy side and who else like kind 439 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: of stud Like. You know what's weird is we haven't 440 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: seen a lot of teddy teddy's on this date such 441 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: a like a just a standout on night one, and 442 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: we haven't really seen her make a dent thus far. 443 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: But I don't think that means anything. I think she's 444 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: gonna be around for quite some time. I kind of 445 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: thought this date was was a fun watch, easy crazy. Yeah, 446 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: it wasn't bad. Like I didn't hate it. Um, we 447 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: saw a lot of it in the teasers and the promos. 448 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know what they're going to do with it, 449 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: but it was like a funny day. It was goofy. 450 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: It was good. Um. Not a lot for me came 451 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: from it, Like I didn't take a lot of it. Um, 452 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: but it was it was good. It was it was 453 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: what it is. Now we do ever, and I believe 454 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm in the right section of this show. It's kind 455 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: of a blur right now. But we have the Shenane 456 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Um issue kind of popping up again, and she 457 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: is making comments about her a d h D which 458 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: is just inappropriate. It's not okay, it's not right because 459 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: a lot I can't deal with with. I think this 460 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: is ridiculous when she's bringing this up. Uh the okay. 461 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: When I said earlier in the episode that there was 462 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: parts where I was like, I feel I feel this girl. 463 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: It was it was when they got the date card 464 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: and it was like we're going to the beach and 465 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: all the girls were like bit like as if somebody 466 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: told them that they were going to like the south 467 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: of France. And then she was like I hate these girls, 468 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I love that. That's hilarious. But besides that, 469 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: now she's been pretty awful. Yeah. No, I mean that 470 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: that part is is okay, you know, it's it's it's 471 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: a funny moment. But this d h D thing, a 472 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: d h D stuff, needs to stop. It's not okay. 473 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: It's using somebody's um insecurities, um mental health against them. 474 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: And she day has no backing for anything she's saying. 475 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: She has no clue what's going on, and it's just 476 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: it's not fun to watch, Like, I just don't enjoy it. 477 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't enjoy I mean, this is bowling one oh one, right, 478 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean when you take somebody's you know, vulnerabilities of 479 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: opening up to you again and using it against him, 480 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: like that's that's wrong. It's not, it's not it's not okay. 481 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: If you open up to me, Ashley and you're like, 482 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: I'm really nervous about having this child, and that's the 483 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: best a big deal to say, Like not every new 484 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: mom would say that that's a big deal. And I said, 485 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: at some point I would use that against you in 486 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: a in a mean way. You know that would hurt 487 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: you deeply, And you can't defend yourself because that was 488 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: something you opened up about, and so you can't even like, 489 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: like the only thing you can stay up for yourself 490 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: against is saying like, yeah, that's who I am, that's 491 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: what it's going on in me and and that's just 492 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: not fun for me to watch. I wanted to stop. 493 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: It needs to stop, and it feels like most of 494 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: the viewership is calling for it to stop, like, hey, 495 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: can we just like good over this? And can Cheney 496 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: at least admit that she was wrong? And I don't 497 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: know if we're ever going to get there. Well, yeah, 498 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: the thing about this whole drama is that she's like 499 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: hates Elizabeth and we have no freaking idea why she 500 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: just picked somebody random in the house she makes fun 501 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: of to put hatred toward and that is like pretty 502 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: much definition bullying, right. Yeah, And we see the women 503 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: getting sick of this drama. It feels like some of 504 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: the only drama that's kind of like surfacing right now. 505 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: The women are getting sick of it. I hope it 506 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: ends soon. We always say this about week four or five. 507 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully it starts to end and the drama more comes 508 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: up with like emotion of how much like Clayton and 509 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: less about each other. But that's where the episode ends. 510 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: That's what we have to look forward to for that 511 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: this week, it's the cliffhanger of what's gonna go on? 512 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen? That's this week's episode. Actually fall asleep 513 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: during it. I was very impartial to it. I thought 514 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: there was good moments. I thought there was okay moments. 515 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: I thought, for the most part, this is the weakest 516 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: episode we've seen by far this season. I'm hoping next 517 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: week picks it up a bit, and I think it will. Um, 518 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: just wasn't that fun for me other than a few 519 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: dates like one one maybe Caitlin's date. I like that, 520 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: and the Baywatch date was kind of like entertaining. But 521 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: I was also on my phone texting during it, like 522 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm out. So that's this week's episode of the Bachelor. 523 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: Let's take a break here. When we come back, we're 524 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: a breakdown Bachelor Nation headlines. On this week's headlines, We've 525 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: got a big one during Kimball, Mary's Christina Creeden. We 526 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: have two marriages this week. We do. It's a it's 527 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: something to celebrate. We have a lot of good headlines 528 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: this week, which I always like enjoy. But the quote 529 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: from them was it was an emotional night. Yes, So, um, 530 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: we've seen Jordan Kimball cry before, you know, I'm not 531 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: surprised that he cried seeing his bride, he said, seeing 532 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: her for the first time, we didn't do a first look. 533 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: It was at the end of the aisle in her dress. 534 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: I started crying. Uh. He said that he for sure 535 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: thought he would be able to keep it together, though, 536 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: he said, ever since the moment, ever since that moment, 537 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I've realized how important she is to me. Um. I 538 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: mean to cry in front of lifelong friends and family 539 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: and everything. I never I never loved her as much 540 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: as I do today. The whole day was so calm. 541 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: I was just so relaxed, and then right before I 542 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: started walking down with my dad, I literally lost it. 543 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't stop crying. That's so cute. He also says 544 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: he was like blindsided by this love and she's just 545 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 1: the sweetest person. He can't handle how sweet, genuine and 546 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: true her heart is. He feels like a protector. He's 547 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: here to support her Um, and they will always have 548 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: He says. We always share different kinds of perspectives, but 549 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: but from coming from the Bachelor to this would to 550 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: the Bachelor kind of prepared me in a way that 551 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: I was ready to take UM. This all seriously so great. 552 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: We also have this weekend other wedding that happened before 553 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: this week, but it's something to celebrate. Direk Paith one 554 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: of our favorite Mary's model Saffron this gorn to e. 555 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: Did you know that they're getting married this week? They 556 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: were married? I think previously? Really were they married at 557 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: your wedding? I believe they were, um, based on you know, 558 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: she lives in London, he lives in the United States. 559 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: They were trying to figure out how to make that work. 560 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: But they announced that this week, and so we can 561 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: start celebrating this week. So if you haven't, you gotta 562 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: go out there and stilebrate them. Oh that's so awesome. Um. Yeah, 563 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: they just showed off their wedding rings on Instagram. It 564 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: said one fourteen one. Yeah, yeah, that's when they got 565 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: I think that's when they officially got married. No way, 566 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: So it's a it's a big deal. They're two incredible people. 567 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: We got to celebrate them. They're awesome. Well, onto some 568 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: sadder news. Uh we did here this week that Marissa 569 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: and Riley from Bachelor in Paradise did officially split. There's 570 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: a rumors out there. We had kind of talked about it, 571 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: suspected it, but it is now official. Yeah, it's sad, 572 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: but we did see the writing on the wall there. 573 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: She deleted all the pictures of him off Instagram a 574 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. He did not UM, but they 575 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: haven't posted of each other since, you know, mid December, 576 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: late December. Um, there was a mutual statement that came 577 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: out announcing the split. You know, maybe Ben, we can 578 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: now get we can now figure out if she did 579 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: kiss somebody else on the beaches paradise. Not to make 580 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: light of this very sad situation, it was a historic 581 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: engagement too. It was the first were really helping black 582 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: people to get engaged. I'm on the Bachelor franchise. Yeah, 583 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: we're hoping it worked. But you know what, you can't 584 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: be upset with him for not working. That just happens. 585 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: And uh, you know we've all had that, you and 586 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: I both So another interesting headline, Tasha Adams exits Bachelor 587 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: Nation podcast Clickbait Your Booth takes Over. I'm actually quite 588 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: interested by this, but we don't really have a lot 589 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: of information. UM. Tasia hasn't said anything about her exiting 590 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: these podcasts. She did take the podcast names off of 591 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: her Instagram profile. UM, but it was the host of 592 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: Clickbait that announced it Joe Ambla. He said that she 593 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: is now being replaced by Tia Uh. Natasha Parker is 594 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: also still there, interested to know why she decided to leave. 595 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 1: She was kind of bouncing between Clickbait and um Bachelor 596 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. She's no longer the host of Clickbait. Well, 597 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: on the Happier News, Raven and Adam welcome their first baby. 598 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: They said, little man made it is there? Quote? Okay, 599 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: how cute is this child? His name is Gates z 600 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: got Stock and gots Stock. It was funny because Raven 601 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: was on my other podcast couple months ago and she 602 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just learning kind of kind of how 603 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: to say my new last name got Struck. So good. Um, 604 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: this kid is so cute. Do you have to go 605 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: check him out on Instagram. I have talked to Raven. 606 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell her birth story, but damn guys, 607 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: she went through the ringer. She is a wonder woman. 608 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: She may or may not talk about it one day, 609 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: but like, well, that's all that's important is that she 610 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: and baby Gates are doing really well. Yeah. Well, final 611 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: headline of the week. Clayton is our bachelor right now. 612 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: He's responding to the TikTok rumors about past relationships, uh 613 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: and escapades, and his quote is I never claimed to 614 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: be a saint. Well, no you didn't. That's fair. But 615 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: he is responding to these which, you know, put some 616 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: weight behind him. Hey, Ben, do you even know about this? 617 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you know about this TikTok? I? I saw it 618 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: because I feel like somebody on our text dress stupid 619 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: you sent it to me. Oh well, somebody had sent 620 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: it to me, and I think I passed on to you, 621 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,399 Speaker 1: Like what the heck is going on? So some guy 622 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: like eating ramen right, being like, oh, I was watching 623 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: TV and this guy popped up, and uh, I noticed 624 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: him because he was the same guy that was, you know, 625 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: hooking up with my girlfriend. Yeah. Basically, the guy in 626 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: the TikTok says that he like walked in on his 627 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: girlfriend and Clayton hooking up. I mean we're not saying 628 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: like Clayton doesn't know. He may not have known that 629 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: this girl is in a relationship area and we have yeah, 630 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: we we have no details. I can just tell you 631 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: that this is what Clayton saying. He says, as far 632 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: as addressing what I've seen online, Yeah, I've seen these 633 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: TikTok's come up lately regarding my past or you know, 634 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: the relationships that I've had in the past. Listen, here's 635 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: the thing. I've never claimed to be a saint, per 636 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: se um or a settle bit. For the last six 637 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: years of my single life. Yeah, I was single and 638 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that singleness. There was a period of my life. 639 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: Or yeah, I wasn't looking for anything serious and I 640 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: was just having fun and enjoying the aspect of dating. 641 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: It is what it is. So yeah, we we don't 642 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know what happened there. But 643 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: maybe he did hook up with a girl who had 644 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: a boyfriend. But like also maybe he had no idea 645 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: that the girl had a boyfriend. Yeah, like, yeah, we 646 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: have no backstory of this other than the fact that 647 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: he's responding to it. And typically, if you know, you 648 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: respond to something that like has hit you at some 649 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: level personally, but he is responding to Well, that's all 650 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 1: the headlines we have for today, and that's the podcast 651 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: this week. We'll be back next week breaking down the 652 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: fourth episode of Clayton season of the Bachelor. We'll be 653 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: here doing it. Ashley and I'll actually be I think 654 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: in uh San Francisco for this episode with the whole 655 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: I Heart team. We're gonna be doing an event at 656 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: the A T and T Pebble Beach Pro Am. I'm 657 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,800 Speaker 1: not playing in the premium, but I'll be there watching it. 658 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: Um and Ashley, you will be back home. He's going 659 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: with you like any Bachelor contestant. Yeah. I think Dean 660 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: will be there. Wells is gonna be there. Um. I 661 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: believe that's it for right now. I don't know. I 662 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: think we're gonna have some special episodes going on that 663 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: week Boys Weekend Dolphin. That's right. It's gonna be a blast. 664 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: But we'll be back talking about Clayton's season then. Until then, 665 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: I've been been, I've been Ashley by guys. Follow the 666 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart 667 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.