1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson, and you were listening to the 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. So I've been very honest the last 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: few weeks about the process of freezing my eggs and 4 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: the toll that it's been taking on my everyday life, 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: specifically my work schedule or what I'm now realizing might 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: be my overwork schedule. But I've received a ton of messages, 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: um just for comfort from you guys, and they've meant 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: so much to me, so thank you so much for those. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: I have also received a ton of questions from you 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: guys about the process, and a lot of y'all are 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: thinking about the process. So I just wanted to give 12 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: you all of the information that I have and give 13 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: you the answers that I have UM living in one 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: place in this scenario, I truly believe that knowledge is 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: power and knowing what this process looks like, the cost, 16 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: the age you need to start thinking about it, just 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: all of those details, they truly can set you up 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: to make the most empowered, best decision for you here 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: at chip Doors. And I answering all of your questions 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: about egg freezing. Okay, So I have been struggling really 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: hard to keep up with all my work stuff. I've 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: told you this. I have Chip Doors here with me 23 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: from at Casual. This is not a not Casual episode, 24 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: though you did not tune into the wrong thing. Um. 25 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: But I have been really struggling to keep up with 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: my work, and so I've had to be really honest 27 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: with that. Like on my Instagram, I've talked about how 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: sometimes I just cannot do a podcast right now, or 29 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: like blogs have been really hard for me to get, 30 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: you know, up on this website. And I'm just struggling 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: to keep up with everything between being on set, keeping 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: up with my clients, and then all the other stuff 33 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: that I do because I just don't feel good well, 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: I mean, your your patchwork sort of lifestyle career. There's 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: no room in there for a vacation even there's definitely 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: no room for like having you know, just not being 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: at your best. Maybe that's way to say it. Like, 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: I do work a lot, and that's actually been something 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: that's become a huge realization to me when I couldn't 40 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: do it, you know now, I'm like, oh, ship, I 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: don't realize how much I do all the time. Um. 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: But also like when you physically not at your best, 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: it's really hard to keep up, and so when I go, 44 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: like what I've basically had to do lately is just 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: go to set when I'm going to set, and keep 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: up with my clients because those are the things that 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: I can't, like, I just can't not do their their 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: TV appearances there, whatever, they don't go away because I'm 49 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: exactly UM. So I've had I have had to allow 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: my assistant a lot more too for that. But when 51 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: I do that, it's like then I'm coming home and 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm like going to bed so early, you know, Liken eight, 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's mentally exhausting, physically, emotionally, all of it. 54 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: It's just exhausting that takes it out of me. So 55 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: I've had to really cut back and because of that, 56 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: I've missed a couple of podcasts. And I'm so grateful 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: that I have the support that I have of all 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: the people who listen to Velvet's Edge, because they've all 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: just been like, take care of your body, do what 60 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: you can. Um. But I did want to get on 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: here and just answer some questions because I keep getting 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: questions in my Instagram. It's a lot to keep up 63 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: with two, so I want to put it all in 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: one place for everyone to listen. Also, do you want 65 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: to kind of talk about what this experience has been like? 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: So I narrowed it down to the top questions I 67 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: get over and over about this egg freezing process, and 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: Chip is going to help kind of guide me through it. 69 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: Because I'm terrible at doing podcasts by myself. I love 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: to host interview. All right, well, um, the first one 71 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: is what we're the deciding factors for you to actually 72 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: move forward with doing the egg freezing again. So the 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: hard part about being a girl is it doesn't matter 74 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: what's going on in your life. When you turn thirty five, 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: your gynecologist is going to say to you, what is 76 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: your thought on having a child? Is that something you 77 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: want to do or not do? If so, we need 78 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: to start talking about what that looks like. Because our bodies, 79 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: when we're born, we have a certain amount of eggs, 80 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: and immediately, like the second day of your life, you 81 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: start losing eggs. You know, it's like you have the 82 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: amount you're going to have the day you're born, and 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: then from then on out you're losing eggs. So by 84 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: the time you get to thirty five, you're getting into 85 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: the place where your egg reserve is starting to really 86 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: die down. Um. You know, it doesn't mean you can't 87 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: have babies after a certain age, but it just means 88 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: the chances are going to be a lot more slim. 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: So what started happening for me is when I was 90 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: thirty five, my gond I was saying that I wasn't 91 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: in a relationship, definitely wasn't in a place in my 92 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: life where I was able to think about doing it 93 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: on my own, you know, just traveling and working and 94 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: I had so much stuff going on at that time, 95 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: but it was definitely on my radar. And she said, 96 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: I want by thirty seven, you need to really have 97 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: made a decision. So, Um, by thirty six, I was like, 98 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: I really need to think about this really heavily. Like 99 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: stuff doesn't look like it's changing. It's like I'm not 100 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: gonna get in a relationship and get pregnant right away, 101 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, so either way, I need to think about options. 102 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: And um, I just decided I was going to go 103 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: to the fertility clinic and see how things looked. I 104 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: really believe like knowledge is power. So if you're just 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: walking around and you don't know, like do I have 106 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: a low egg reserve or maybe I'm fine and like, 107 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't need to push it this many year or 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: this fast because everyone's body is so different. Um, So 109 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: I just decided I would go into her fertility clinic 110 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: and get the answers. Basically, that was what pushed me 111 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: to actually do it. Okay, Um, question about that, I'm 112 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna go off script a little. Um. 113 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: I was actually talking about this with coworkers the other day, 114 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's a pressure that women have 115 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: to grapple with more than men. Obviously, men don't have 116 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: to do it. Lo if you're if you are a 117 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: married man and you're trying to conceive later in life, 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: like it's nobody's fault if your wife is older and 119 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: her aadcount is lower, but it is something that then 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: he emotionally has to grapple with. But as a single woman, 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: it's that's different. You you're faced with these questions that 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: it's not like it's a cheap thing to do. And 123 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: it's also just under the assumption that one day you're 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: going to fertilize these acts. It's not like you're going 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: to get these eggs and say I'm fertilizing it. With this, 126 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: like you're literally freezing them for the future. So it's 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, like how do how do how What would 128 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: you tell women that are like I don't know if 129 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: I want to spend this kind of money, but I 130 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: know I want to have a kid. Well, okay, so 131 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: for me, that's a really good question. Like for me, um, 132 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: let me think about how to answer this, because the 133 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: truth is is, even if you go into freezing your eggs, 134 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to a work be 135 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: later become an embryo, like and I'll get into a 136 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: little bit of that later. But I just knew that, 137 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: like I know I want to have a kid. I 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: know I want a child. I'm not like married to 139 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the fact that it has to be my own. It's 140 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: what I would want. But like I can wrap my 141 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: mind around maybe adoption is going to be for me, 142 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: Maybe being a step mom is going to be enough. 143 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, something different would work for me. But 144 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: I knew that if I got to like forty two, 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: I was in a relationship where I wanted that child, 146 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: and I hadn't tried everything that I could, Like I 147 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: hadn't done my due diligence to do everything I could 148 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: to exhaust all my options to be able to have 149 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: that option, I would beat myself up, that makes sense. 150 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: So I just wanted that, Like that was just Okay, 151 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this the best effort I can, and 152 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: then if I know it's not gonna work for me, 153 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: or it's then if I decide later not to use 154 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: the eggs, or then if the eggs don't turn into embryos, 155 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: then okay, I can grieve that. But no, I gave 156 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: it my best effort and that just wasn't my path, 157 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean you would think too, then 158 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: if your only option becomes adoption or shood or whatever, 159 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: you'll be able to look at those kids differently, because 160 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: like then it's like those were that was a specific 161 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: choice at that point, you know, and it's a gift. 162 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think all the kinds of motherhood is 163 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: a gift. But like if you know that that wasn't 164 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: going to physically work for you, or whatever it was 165 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work for you, then you just can go okay, 166 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: like the universe have different options for me. And that's 167 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: that was what really pushed me. You touched on this 168 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: a little bit in your first response, But what age 169 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: is too old or too young to consider doing this? 170 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if there is a too young I 171 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: don't really know the answer to that. I don't think 172 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: you have to like freak out about it in your twenties. 173 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: I think if I could go back, I will. I 174 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: always say this to girls in their thirties, like, if 175 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: you turn thirty and your single or whatever, you still 176 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: have a ton of time. But what I would do 177 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: if I could go back is start a savings account, 178 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: and even if you're putting fifty bucks a month in there, 179 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: do it for this, you know, because it is expensive, 180 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: which I'll answer later to about cost, but it's expensive, 181 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: and like you don't think about yourself as ever being 182 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: in this position. I didn't, like I've always been a 183 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: relationship person. I never thought, oh my god, I won't 184 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: have the option later. And it's like it's not on 185 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: your radar as the top thing, you know. It's like 186 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: I was building a business, building a career, you know, 187 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: doing tons of other things, joy in life, having fun, traveling, 188 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: like all of that stuff, and I haven't been ready 189 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: yet to settle down and do the kid thing, or 190 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 1: I haven't been in the right relationship yet. But I've 191 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: never thought about like, oh god, times is going to 192 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: run out. It was just kind of like when I 193 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: get there, I'll get there. And then I got here 194 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: and they're telling me like, oh no, no, time might 195 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: run out. Yeah, and so it's a huge pressure. But 196 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: on top of that, to add the financial burden of 197 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: whatever it is is a lot. So if you can 198 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: already have it saved, and then later if you get pregnant, whatever, 199 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: you have an extra couple of thousand bucks, like, you 200 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: can always use that for something else. Well, it's funny 201 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: because it's you know, you're talking about a savings account 202 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: about money, but it's also something that like perhaps think 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: about the physical savings account of the eggs too. It's like, 204 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's something that younger women should think about as 205 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: they near thirty and they they're not in a relationship 206 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: that you know, feels promising, they're there, they're they have 207 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: a higher reserve of viable eggs. Like like, would you 208 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: recommend a younger woman being like, look, if you think 209 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: that you might have want to have a kid, but 210 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: you're in no race to like find the man of 211 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: your dreams and settled down and be married, then put 212 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: some eggs away, then your chances are greater if you 213 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: can afford it. When you're younger, I just say do 214 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: it because especially if you're like a business minded person 215 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: or you're building a business yourself, you know, like that 216 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: takes up so much time and energy, and it's similar 217 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to any man's life, like it just pushes back your 218 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: priority to start a family or you know, even whatever 219 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: it is, like have a kid by yourself, if that's 220 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: what you want to do. But like if you can 221 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: afford it, yeah, because if you're thirty two trying to 222 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: do this, I mean, like I had to do a 223 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: month of priming hormones to try to get my body 224 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: even ready to start the shots, and that ship is brutal. 225 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: But like when you're thirty two, you have such a 226 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: higher reserve probably that you wouldn't have to do that 227 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: or Honestly, a lot of messages I've gotten, unfortunately, are 228 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: people who are younger and they didn't know that they 229 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: would have a low of varian reserve. Like I always 230 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: just say, now, go find out, go to the fertility clinic, 231 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: make an appointment. It's not gonna cost a lot, Like, 232 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: just go do all the tests. See where you're at 233 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: and then just figure out make a decision if that's 234 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: something that you think you're gonna want eventually. Knowledge is power. 235 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: Knowledge is power. So, um, let's get to cost. What 236 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: are the costs? So it's expensive. So one round essentially 237 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: is about fifteen thousand dollars ultimately. Um. And then when 238 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: you say one round, that is all the hormones leading 239 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: up to the injections, up to the retrieval. Well that's 240 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: been my experience. Yeah, So like it's mine was a 241 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: month of hormones, it's going to be two weeks of shots. 242 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: I've had it before and so I did four weeks 243 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: of shots the first I mean four days of shots 244 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: the first time, and then they hanceled that cycle because 245 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't producing enough and enough follicles. So this round, 246 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: it's been a month of hormones. Hopefully it will be 247 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: two weeks of shots and then the procedure and then 248 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the overall cost of the you know, procedure and the 249 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: medical stuff plus the medicine is about fifteen thousand dollars. Wow. Yeah, 250 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: it's not cheap. Definitely not cheap. And here's the hard part. So, 251 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: like I said, last round, I used some shots and 252 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: then it got canceled, so I had to replenish those 253 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: shots this time, which was like another two thousand dollars. 254 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: That ship is so expensive. The medicine itself is about 255 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: half the cost. So um so yeah, So it's hard 256 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: because if it's not taking, you're going into another financial 257 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: dip if you want to keep going. And so with me, 258 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, they and I'll talk about this 259 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: more later. I think there's a question about this, but 260 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: like they want a certain amount of eggs and mine 261 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: doesn't look like I'll probably be able to get that 262 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: in one round. And um so they're like, but this 263 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: is when people do multiple rounds, which is an awesome option, 264 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: but financially that could be a lot because it's like, 265 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean, who can just drop k Yeah, and I 266 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: think a lot of girls doing this are single, So 267 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: that's like a tricky part of it. And that's why 268 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: I suggested earlier. If you are younger, it's something you're 269 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: starting to think about, just start saving. So it's not 270 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: like this huge and so it's not this thing where 271 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: you're like, I want to do that, but I can't, 272 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: you know, like give yourself the option to do this. 273 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: Is it something I'm going off script? Again, does insurance 274 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: cover any of this? So some people's insurance might. I'm 275 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: a self employed person, so I don't have insurance. That's 276 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: like killer, It's just the basic. So definitely when you go, 277 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: especially if you work for a corporation and have really 278 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: great insurance or something like that, check your insurance because 279 00:13:53,200 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: it can take a lot off of the medicine stuff too. Yeah, 280 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: so someone asked how you felt about yourself once you 281 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: finally decided to go through this process. There's I mean, 282 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: there's been a range of emotions. You know. It's like 283 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: I think the second that I said I'm gonna do 284 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: this was the most empowered I've probably felt in my life. 285 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't have to wait to find the perfect relationship. 286 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't have to my life doesn't have to line 287 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: up a certain way that's written down on paper, Like 288 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I have the options. I'm taking my power in my life. 289 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: And you know, it just feels like you're sort of 290 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: like doing something for yourself and being really responsible and 291 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: owning your power like I'm a woman hearing me more 292 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: more kind of thing, like I can do this, like 293 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: not like well, I mean I was just about to 294 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: say that sounds a little like I don't need a man. 295 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: I want a man, you know, Like I want to 296 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: have a family, and I definitely still as independent as 297 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: I am, have very traditional ideas of like a life 298 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: that I want with a family. I just do. I 299 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: love that, Like that's what I want. Um, but it 300 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: just life is just weird and you don't know what 301 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be doing or how it's going to 302 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: work out. And so like setting myself up to get 303 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: the things that I want felt so empowering, you know. Um. 304 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Since I've been doing it, it it's brought up a 305 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: lot of grief for me oddly, like it's very um. 306 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: There are days where I feel super empowered and I'm 307 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: like I'm going to take over the world, you know, 308 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: And there's days where I'm like, this is really hard 309 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: to do by yourself. And I wish that I had 310 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: a support of a partner right now that was in 311 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: this with me and walking through this and I was 312 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: doing it for us, and so he was like you 313 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: got this, babe, you know, like that kind of thing. 314 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: I've felt that a lot. I've really really grieved that 315 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: in my life. Luckily for me, I have a wonderful 316 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: support system and a lot of amazing women around me 317 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: who have gone through similar things, and so they've been 318 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: able to kind of like give me that support that 319 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: I need. But yeah, it's it's I mean, it is 320 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: definitely like not for the faint of heart. It's like, 321 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: women are fucking I say this all the time right now, 322 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: but women are fucking warriors. Like to be able to 323 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,479 Speaker 1: go to work and do all of this stuff physically 324 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: and like take on this undertaking and the emotional capacity 325 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: of what hormones due to your body and then like 326 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: the grief that it could bring up or anything that 327 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: it could bring up for you. It's fucking hard. But like, 328 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: how amazing that we can do hard things. I mean, 329 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: it's incredible. It was funny. This is a little off topic, 330 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: but I was with some friends last night and we 331 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: were talking about like that what like little ships we 332 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: were to our mom's. Like my mom worked full time. 333 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: She would come home, but she would cook dinner and 334 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: we'd be like, this is disgusting, We're an asshole. Yeah, 335 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: she probably like in hindsight, like cried herself to sleep 336 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: that night, you know, but she loved us so much 337 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: that she would never let us see that pain, right, 338 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: And of course, like if I knew that I was 339 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: causing my mother that kind of pain, I wouldn't have 340 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: said it, like I was just being a kid. Or 341 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: if you had known the day your mom had and 342 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: then cooked you, you would have been like whatever you 343 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: put on my plate, you know, like you just as 344 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: a kid, you don't know that kind of stuff. But 345 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: and honestly, like I don't know that I fully grasped 346 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: what women go through, like with pregnancy and like just 347 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: all of it. It's a lot, and we are not 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: in this world of like I mean, there's you know, 349 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: some women don't work and that's fine, but it's still hard. 350 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: I don't care who you are, and um, a lot 351 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: of women work, and so you still have all like 352 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: life responsibilities, a job, all this stuff, and your body 353 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: is making a human being, Like what the fun? And 354 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: then think about people with twins and triplets in their 355 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: bodies that end up on bed rest for five months. 356 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I know being told you 357 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: had to lay in bed for five months. No, because 358 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: I've had to basically do that for a month like 359 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: on and off, and like it's it's so difficult it's 360 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: so frustrating, it's so emotional. Yeah, part of me wish 361 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: I could lay down for a month and taking exactly 362 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: until like until you have to do it. It sounds 363 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: ideal and then you're like, Okay, I've watched as much 364 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: Netflix as I possibly can. Plus life goes on and 365 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: like all of your responsibilities are still there. Um, So 366 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: has it been scari or painful? Um? I think the 367 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: scariest part was like the unknown. So this round, okay, 368 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: now I take that back. The first round was scary 369 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: because I didn't know, and so it was like that 370 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: unknown feeling of like, um, what is it going to 371 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: feel like to give myself shots? What is that gonna 372 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: How are the hormones going to affect my body? This 373 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: time was scary, um for different reasons, because you know, 374 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I knew a lot more so I felt comforted in like, Okay, 375 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: I know what that's going to feel like with the hormones, 376 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: although I didn't because they put me on more and 377 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: it was a little different, but like I kind of 378 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: knew how I would react, um, and like I would 379 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: need more sleep. I tried to set myself up a 380 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: little better. Couldn't work as much, you know, blah blah 381 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: blah um, and then I knew what the shots would 382 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: feel like, which are not fun, but they're doable. Like 383 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: it's a tiny needle and it's I'm doing I'm about 384 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: to do four times a day, which is not fun, 385 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: but I think some people only do twice, and like 386 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: it's doable, you know. Um. It's scary for different reasons though, 387 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: because I had to cancel the last round, and so 388 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, is this gonna work for me? And am 389 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: I doing this for nothing? Like those are the scary 390 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: things I think. Like I'm going to Chicago and actually 391 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: flying out after we do this podcast, and I'm going 392 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: to have my first ultrasound, and I think I'm going 393 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: to feel a lot less scared and a little more 394 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: peaceful if I have a positive ultrasound, you know, like 395 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: once I get more into the shop process and they're 396 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: like Okay, hey, this is going well and like oh, 397 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: here's how many follicles and those kind of things, I 398 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: think that will take some of the fear away. But 399 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: if you're in it and you're like doing all this 400 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: stuff to your body and your body, you can kind 401 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: of react kind of crazy. Sometimes you're just like what 402 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: if I'm doing this for nothing, you know, and that's scary. Yeah. Um, 403 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: but I think you know, like you touched on this earlier, 404 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: like you're doing it for for answers really like ultimately, 405 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: you're doing it in the hopes that you're going to 406 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: have to be able to have your own child. But 407 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: if the answer that you get through this process is 408 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: that it's not possible for you to have a child, 409 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: then then I look at other options. Exactly. I don't 410 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: think I answered the painful part, did I? Um? Not really? Okay? 411 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, So with the medicine, like the hormones, 412 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: I've had to do progesterone to testosterone and estrogen and 413 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: it's not painful. It makes the testosterone I went through 414 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: like it kind of makes your body mimic early pregnancy. 415 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: So I literally would get morning sickness like I was 416 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: puking and whatever. And then I kind of figured out 417 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: ways to balance it out, like I need to eat 418 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: right when I wake up. I can't have coffee on 419 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: an empty stomach, you know, Like you just started to 420 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: figure out different things. So that was okay. Progestra makes 421 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: you feel tired as hell, Like it is just exhausting 422 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: and that's where that brain fog stuff I've been talking about. 423 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: That's what I feel is just like I'm like here, 424 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: but I'm not here kind of thing, you know. Um so, 425 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: but it's not painful. It's just sort of like ick. 426 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: And that's it's anytime I think, you know, like okay, 427 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: I just have to do this for four weeks, like 428 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: I can, you can. You can kind of suffer through 429 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: it and like if you have an end goal, it's 430 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: like I can do anything for that amount of time, 431 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: like I'll be okay there you know this two shot 432 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: pass um. The shots. One of the shots that I 433 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: have to do burns a little bit, like when the 434 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: medicine goes in. But again, all of the shots are 435 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: tiny needles and you put them in your stomach. Um. 436 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 1: It's not fun by any means, but it's doable. Like 437 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: it's it's smaller than a botox needle. And I love 438 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: when those needles go in. So, but it must have 439 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: been hard the first time. They're like, well, here you go, 440 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: give yourself a shot. Like some of them you have 441 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: to like mix up a concoction yourself. And I was like, 442 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna die because I'm going to suck this up, 443 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: like I but you figure it out. And I don't 444 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: know that there's a way to like super fuck it 445 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: up or they probably wouldn't let you do it yourself. Um. 446 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, Like honestly, this morning when I woke up, 447 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: I was like, you just like kind of because you 448 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: know what it's going to feel like, and you're just like, blah, 449 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: it's not what you feel like going to do, but 450 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: you just do it. You take a deep breath and 451 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: you just fucking do it. It's a millisecond of pain. 452 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: It is a millisecond of pain. But again, if you 453 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: want me to hate on men for a second, if 454 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: y'all had to do it, I would. I mean I 455 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: just feel like I would hear about it all, you know, 456 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: like it's just yeah, but women can do it. So 457 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: how long is the process from start to finish? Okay, 458 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: so a month of priming hormones is what I've done. Again, 459 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't think everyone has to do that. Um, and 460 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: then I'm about to do shots for two weeks and 461 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: then you do the procedure and then you do a 462 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: pill that kind of brings your body back to getting 463 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: a period because all the stuff that you do takes 464 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: that away, and so that for me, the last REALND 465 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: was about fourteen days. And the weird thing about once 466 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: you start the shots and then once you're on that 467 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: pill until you get your period, you can't work out, 468 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: you can't um have sex, like, you can't do a 469 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: lot of physical activity because it expands your ovaries, like 470 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: it just blows them up so that they can go 471 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: in and get the eggs, and so your ovaries can 472 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: get twisted. So like if someone said to me, like, oh, well, 473 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: you can still do like yoga, and I'm like, actually, 474 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: that's the worst thing you can do because any sort 475 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: of weird position could twist your ovaries and then you 476 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: would have to have surgery. So I'm not trying to 477 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: have another surgery with this stuff. So I just I 478 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: don't exercise, um, which is a little bit of a 479 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: buzz kill, But again you're just like, this is a 480 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: short period of time. Probably adds to your tiredness too, 481 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: it does. And I think the weird thing is is 482 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: like your body changes. This is the closest I've ever 483 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: had to like go experience what it would be like 484 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: to be pregnant. Um. But it's a weird thing because 485 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: you know, like who are my only you're off and 486 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: so you don't feel your best, like I'm not, like, oh, 487 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like some sex maniac, Like I feel so 488 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: sexy right now, I feel so not sexy. Um, and 489 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: your body is changing. I haven't had energy to work out, 490 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: so I really haven't worked out for like a month. 491 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: And I didn't realize how much weight I put into 492 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: like my physical body, you know, Like I've just always 493 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: been very active, I've always worked out, I've always eating healthy, 494 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: so I've been in shape, and like clothes fit me 495 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: a certain way and I've felt fine about it. I 496 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't really have a concept of that, and 497 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: now like clothes don't fit me the same way, and 498 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't feel the same way. Like I didn't realize 499 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: how much weight that can put on how you feel 500 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: about yourself. So I've had to really start shifting. Like, 501 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: but think about what your body is doing, like it's 502 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: doing something really amazing right now, and like really trying 503 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: to love myself from that aspect versus like the pressure 504 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: that I put on my physical appearance. Appearance. I feel 505 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: like that makes me sound so shallow, but that's just 506 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: the truth. Well, yeah, I mean it's like I definitely 507 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: know like truly pregnant women who like struggle with gaining weight, 508 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: and then some women are like fuck it, I'm eating 509 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: for two and then don't care. So it's two extremes. 510 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, um, yes, and it feels I think it 511 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: feels weird because you feel almost like your body is 512 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: not your own. Like it's like my body is doing 513 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: something right now that is awesome, but it's also pumped 514 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: full of all these things that I would never actually 515 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: put in my body. So that feels weird, Like I'm 516 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: so weird about medicine and weird stuff. Um, but I've 517 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: had to just really lean into it, like that's okay, 518 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: and like this in the grand scheme of your life 519 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: is a short period of time that is so worth 520 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: it and so beautiful that you can even have this option. Um. So, 521 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: in order for retrieval to be successful, how many eggs 522 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: do you need to retrieve? My doctor keeps saying they 523 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: would love like fifteen to twenty because the deal is 524 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: is it's a numbers game, Like, so you go in, 525 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: you retrieve these eggs and they freeze them. And I 526 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: think this answer is one of the next questions too, 527 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: But they freeze them. They don't test anything. They they're 528 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: they're not like they don't know if they're healthy eggs 529 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: or like quality eggs or if they're not. So when 530 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: you find that out is when you go back in 531 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: and you're trying to make an embryo later, so when 532 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: you have the sperm to and so and they can 533 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: test also then for like um, chromosome issues or anything 534 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: like that. So like you want when did they test 535 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: the viability at that point? At that point, so like 536 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: when I go in, say I get uh six eggs 537 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: or something, Um, they won't know anything about those eggs 538 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 1: until it later when I want to use them. So 539 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: it's scared. That's another that's a fear part for sure. Um, 540 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: so you want as many as you possibly could get, 541 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: which is why they say, like so if I'm only 542 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: able to get six this first round or something, that 543 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: I might want to do an other one just to 544 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: have like a higher number of options, you know. Like 545 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: I saw Amy Schumer post something because she's been doing IVF. 546 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: She got thirties six eggs or something insane and one 547 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: of them turned into an embryo, which was actually like 548 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: super discouraging when I read that. But everyone's body is 549 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: so different. And I've really been researching on how to 550 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: like have better quality eggs. There's a book called It 551 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: Starts with the Egg and it's all about the diet 552 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: and um, the other things you're putting in your body beforehand, 553 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: and so like hopefully you can get a better round, 554 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: like not even just numbers wise, like quantity wise, but 555 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: quality wise, because that's actually what matters. And it only 556 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: takes one. It only takes one. Only takes one. I 557 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: answer that question. And you touched on the viability and 558 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: um missing chromosomes. So that was a question that someone 559 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: had post. Oh yeah, so you were saying the number 560 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: the more, the better, the more. Yeah. So you mentioned 561 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: that Amy Shummer shown IVF. What's the difference between freezing 562 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: your eggs and IVF? So freezing your eggs is actually 563 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: just the first part of IVF. So instead of like 564 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: what she's doing is she did what I did, and 565 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: then they made it into an embryo and then started 566 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: it back inside of her or I guess she I 567 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: guess she got it and started back already. Um, but 568 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm just doing the first part, which is just to 569 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: take the eggs out, and then I'm freezing them because 570 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: I'm not actually ready to have a child. Yetta, Okay, 571 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: So is like in vitro fertilization, right, I mean it's 572 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: fertilizing the exactly. It's just the first half of IVF, 573 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: which is why Like IVF is like thirty dollars. So 574 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: it's like, that's why, that's why this is fifteen because 575 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: it's just the first part and so then when you 576 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: go back later to make it into an embryo, it's 577 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: another fifteen thousand or whatever. Start saving those fifty ship man, 578 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm all over it. So, um, let's talk concerns. Are 579 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: there any long term, long term concerns with you shooting 580 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: yourself full of these hormones and stuff. Well, that was 581 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: a huge thing for me because I am super clean normally, 582 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: I hate taking medicine. I don't take birth control. I'm 583 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: very like I like to keep I mean, it's very 584 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: important to me to keep my hormones regulated. Like I've 585 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: had um stuff where they're off in the past, and 586 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: that's like, you know, caused me to be extra tires. 587 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: So I see this natural doctor Dr Motley. I've actually 588 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: done a podcast with him too. He's amazing. He's a 589 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: chiropractor kinesiologist, and he helps me to keep everything regulated. 590 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: So I've already been like before I even knew I 591 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: was doing this, very in tune with like keeping hormones regulated. 592 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: I've never done birth control because I didn't once it 593 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: made me feel like shit, and so I just try 594 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: to keep all that normal. And so that was a 595 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: huge concern of mine going into this, Like it's it's 596 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: like literally the opposite of everything else I do in 597 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: my life. But um, I've started also researching, and there's 598 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: a lot of like different diets and stuff that people 599 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: do once they get off of the stuff to try 600 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: to get them like back in. And I mean, sure, 601 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't have the like it like up the risk 602 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: for breast cancer later or something. I mean I think 603 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: anytime you're fucking with your hormones, it's bad like that, 604 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, like of course it could. But to me, 605 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: the there was no like proof that freezing your eggs 606 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: does that women do it all the time, and the 607 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: option of freezing my eggs was, you know, a better 608 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: option for me than um not. So I just decided 609 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: to take that chance. And like I'd know a ton 610 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: of women who have done it, and they're completely fine. 611 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: So I don't want to see you grow on a 612 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: beard though, that's what everyone keeps me like, have you 613 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: started talking like this? Do you have any hair on 614 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: your chest yet? With that testosteron? No? But like I 615 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: will say, I'm like a fucking piste off all the time. 616 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: As you can tell, I'm like, let's talk more about 617 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: men where um, so let's sort of take it back 618 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: to the very beginning advice on choosing a doctor. Okay, 619 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: this is actually a great topic for me because people 620 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: keep being like, why are you one of Chicago? So 621 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: I did go to a cility clinic and Nashville there's 622 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: actually only one and they're great, Like, I have nothing 623 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: bad to say about them at all. For me, my 624 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: experience was going to that. It was the Nashville fertility Clinic. 625 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: They worked with so many people or whatever, but I 626 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: would be sitting in the lobby with like couples of 627 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: are like to a couple that was pregnant, and I 628 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: just felt super isolated, you know. And so I found 629 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: out about this company because honestly, one of the nurses 630 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: was on The Bachelor Whitney if anyone watched Chris soul season, 631 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: and I knew that she had done this, and so 632 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: I kind of had heard about this company because people 633 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: like Caitlin Bristow and a couple other people had done 634 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: it and they've talked about it, and um, I became 635 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: very intrigued because they only do egg fertilization. It's also 636 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: a company that was started by women, Like it's all 637 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: the people that work there are women, and it just 638 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: feels very like, you know, if you're going into this 639 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: as an empowering thing, it felt very empowered to me 640 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: and very like they're super hands on. They've been there, 641 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: most of them have in their eggs, and so it 642 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: just felt right like it's a very boutique situation where 643 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: they know what it's like, they can relate, they're there 644 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: for you and it's only egg freezing. Also, the doctor there, 645 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: and this is something I can recommend everyone. The doctor there, 646 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: his rate of actual births and pregnancies was extremely high, 647 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: Like he's won a bunch of awards for that, Like 648 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: he's in the top you know, percentile of that, and 649 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: so that matters. You don't want to just like go 650 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: into this and freeze your eggs and not know about 651 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: your doctor's success rate. So that would be one of 652 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: the biggest things that I would recommend to people to 653 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: look into, like how many like births have they actually 654 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: had from this process? And OVA, which is where I'm 655 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: going in Chicago, has had a very high percent. And 656 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: so that was like it sold me. That was the 657 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: final straw of why I did it. There, research your doctors, 658 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: Research your doctors, and find the place that like feels 659 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: writes to you, because like I said, you're not in 660 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: your best state, Like it's like kind of a fragile 661 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: time in your life. And so when I go up there, 662 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: anytime I go into the office, like these women make 663 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: me feel so calm about everything, and that's just super 664 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: important to me. It's like the experience of it, you know, 665 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: and like knowing that a lot of them have done 666 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: it and there they a lot of them have kids 667 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: from it. I mean that's super motivating and it's like, Okay, 668 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: like this can happen, this can work, And I need 669 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: that extra push right now because I think if I was, 670 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, in another situation, it might not be as 671 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: inspiring to me. Right And you're also vulnerable, you're on 672 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: the emotional state because of the hormone. Yes, you need 673 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: that comfort. So We've asked all the questions that um 674 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: your followers or readers or whatever listeners, but I had 675 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: one question that is there a second act for any 676 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: of these eggs? So say you get pregnant naturally, or 677 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: a woman who's frozen a bunch of eggs passes away 678 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: and expect are you trying to get my eggs? No, 679 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm just like how much they call rude? But now 680 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: is there a like is there a use for these 681 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: eggs that might not be used? Like, that's a great question. 682 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,399 Speaker 1: I've actually thought about that. I haven't even been able 683 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: to go there mentally because I'm just like, just get 684 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: the eggs, you know, Like I'm more concerned about that 685 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: part right now. But I think about that. I'm like, 686 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: I know in their egg bank, they probably have a 687 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: ton of eggs just sitting around. And like, my other 688 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: thought is because this is just how my life has 689 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: worked in the universe, is always up to something. I'm like, 690 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: I just know I'm gonna go through this, and this 691 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: is going to be a sort of like growth experience 692 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: for me or some sort of strength building, you know, 693 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: like bring Kelly to the next level of who she 694 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 1: needs to be kind of thing. Um, and then I'm 695 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: gonna get pregnant naturally, you know, like it's just I'm 696 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: gonna go through all this stuff and then probably just 697 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: get knocked up, which would be great. But then, like, 698 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: what about the eggs, Like you're saying, I don't know, 699 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: I've thought about it. I'm could I donate them? You know? 700 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: I mean, is that even an option? Is what I'm 701 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: curious about. And were reading a story about a family, 702 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: a couple that did in vitro and they they weren't 703 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: ready to have the babies yet, but they fertilized, but 704 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: they had an agreement between the two of them. And 705 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is something that the clinic 706 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: makes you do or if this is something they just 707 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: decided to do that if they ended their marriage, neither 708 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: of them could use the fertilized eggs without the permission 709 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: of the other party. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like because 710 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: then you're bringing a child into the world that someone 711 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: else is responsible for, but you're not married any longer. 712 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: And the woman wanted to have the kids, and it 713 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: was devastating because the court stood by the contract and said, 714 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 1: you signed this contract. So they get divorced. Yeah, they 715 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: end up getting divorced, and she wanted to go ahead 716 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: and have a baby and he wouldn't. The only way 717 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: that she could have a baby of her own now, 718 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: because she had reached an age where she didn't have 719 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: my legs, was to do use one of those, and 720 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: the court wouldn't let her do it. So I'm just wondering. 721 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: This is a lesson, do not fertilize your eggs until 722 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: you know that you want to have the kid. Then well, 723 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: the other thing about that that the reason they probably 724 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: did it is because, um, the viability is better if 725 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: they are fertilized. If they're already fertilized, like I guess, 726 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: they freeze better, like it can maintain better, because like 727 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: there is a chance if you're just doing the egg 728 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: that you know when you take them out, some of them, 729 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know the right terminology, but 730 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: some of them are correct scrambled. This is just just 731 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: trying to make glad of it. I don't know. Um, 732 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, so like I know your chances are higher 733 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: if you go ahead and fertilize. Well, then the lesson 734 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: here is make sure your contract says I get to 735 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: keep these babies either way. Anyway, I hope that I've 736 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: helped answer a lot of you guys questions. You can 737 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: always message me at Velvet's Edge on Instagram or at 738 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: info at velvet's Edge dot com. Um sorry too if 739 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: us sounded a little I feel like I was kind 740 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: of like, wat want. I think this is a great experience, 741 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: Like I right now, I want so many fucking hormones, 742 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: and I think that it's hard and I don't want 743 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: to lie about that, but like, it's also amazing, you know, 744 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: and the fact that we can do this and technology 745 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: has given us this, it's insane and it's amazing, and 746 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: it does open up the world just so many possibilities 747 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: for women because you can build your career, you can 748 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: make the life you want, and you can still have 749 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: babies like you just don't have to do it on 750 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,919 Speaker 1: the timelines we've been held to in the past, which 751 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: is amazing. Well, I think there's a lot of those 752 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: timelines weren't about women being able to carry babies. It 753 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: was about the viability of eggs, but science didn't know 754 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: that yet. Now we're at a place where we know 755 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: it's truly about viable eggs versus viable womb. Because older 756 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: women making carry babies right, So yeah, so do what's 757 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 1: right for you, do your research, and if there's anything 758 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 1: I can help anybody with, please feel free to reach 759 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: out at Velvet's Edge. I will keep you guys posted. 760 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm heading to Chicago to note, so fingers crossed for 761 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: some good news and hopefully I'll be back to my 762 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: normal self soon and we can be back to podcasting regularly. Yeah, 763 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: do you have anything chip, You're just I'm just like 764 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: worried why I can't do my eggs. I think they 765 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: figured that out. Thank you guys for listening and I'll 766 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: be back soon with an update. This is Kelly Henderson 767 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: and you've been listening to the Velvet Edge podcast. I 768 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: truly believe that every one of us has a little 769 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: velvet and a little edge, so it's so important to 770 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: remember that to be strong, you must be soft too. 771 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing in those stories with me. 772 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: You can follow Velvet's Edge on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, 773 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: as well as velvets edge dot com. If you haven't yet, 774 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: go to Apple Podcast and subscribe, rate and review this podcast. 775 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: Join me every Wednesday for more conversations on lifestyle, beauty, 776 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: and relationships. Thanks for listening,