1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted. I'm Tom Holland let's talk about 3 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: personal trainers. Yes, this is a topic I have just 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of experience with. Have spent or spent 5 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: many years in the industry working as a personal trainer, 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: many many, many years, many different gems, hundreds and hundreds 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: of clients, thousands if you count the camps I taught 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: and working one on one as a personal trainer, group 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: fitness instructor. So today this show is the truth about 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: personal training because this is Fitness Disrupted. And what I 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: do here is give you the truth. Give you the 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: truth so you have the information you need to make 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: the best decisions as to your health. So, oh my gosh, 14 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: do I love this topic. There's so much to talk about. Uh, 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: let me start way back at the beginning. Just give 16 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: you a little bit of history. One of my first, 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: if not my first true real fitness job was working 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: as a trainer who managed a Nautilus facility. So one 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: of these Nautilus gym's where it was just Nautilus equipment, 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: the unique machines that were totally uh, the Nautilus brand 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: back in the day, really really cool, and it's where 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: I actually got my two second four second formula for 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: for exercise, So learned so much back then, and that 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: was back in college. So back in college for summer job, 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: I was just running all by myself, which was really 26 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: kind of cool, this facility, and it really got me 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: excited for fitness. I had already been working out in 28 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: a huge fitness person before then, but this was my 29 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: first paid job where I was taught different principles and 30 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: manage this facility. So it was really really cool and 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: talk about out coming full circle. Now I am Nautilus's 32 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: chief fitness advisor the entire company, so how cool is that? 33 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: And in between all of those years decades, I worked 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: as a personal trainer for many years, many years, worked 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: my butt off all right, mostly in New York City 36 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: and all the top gym's I used to start at 37 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: five am, and oftentimes I did not leave that gym 38 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: until ten o'clock at night. So do the math. That 39 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: is a long day, seventeen hour days. Quite often now 40 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: in between I would be working out and things like that. 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: But one of the gym's was underground and I literally 42 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: would get there before the sun came up and oftentimes 43 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: would not leave that facility that didn't have windows, uh 44 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: in the ground or you know, underground until the sun 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: was gone. So worked with so many different clients, worked 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: with so many different trainers, worked at so many different facilities, 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and I'm here to tell you all about it. Let 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: me fast forward because this is kind of interesting to uh, 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: something that happened just just about a year ago. One 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: of my new revenue streams, as uh the founder and 51 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: CEO of my company, Team Holland, is being a fitness 52 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: expert in lawsuits. Talk about crazy, right, And one of 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: the actually the most common issue I deal with in 54 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: these lawsuits, and I've done a bunch are issues involving 55 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: personal trainers and gym's personal trainers people getting hurt. All right, 56 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: So there is a case I worked on where a 57 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: person got seriously hurt while working with this trainer. Let 58 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: me very very careful how my word things. Uh, this 59 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: person got very injured, was injured working with this trainer, 60 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: and the trainer was being sued. And as part of 61 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: the process of me being a fitness expert in these cases, 62 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I get to post so I get to go into 63 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: a uh, you know, lawyers offices, I sit down the 64 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: lawyer I'm working for, and the lawyers who are posing 65 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: me or or I am against, question me, and really 66 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: quickly one of the questions that came up this trainer 67 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: was not certified and I was one of the issues 68 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: I had, and one of the issues so I was 69 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: working for, uh, the side of the person who had 70 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: been injured. And the question arose from two lawyers that 71 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: were deposing me. Sometimes it's one, this time it was two, 72 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: and the lawyer said, well, uh, do you have to 73 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: be certified to work as a personal trainer? Is there 74 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: a law is their federal law, state law that says 75 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: you need to be certified to work as a personal trainer? 76 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: And my answer was no, there isn't. So that is 77 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: one of the top topics of this show, the myth 78 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: that the trainer that you are working with, or the 79 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: trainers at the gym you go to are certified. Don't 80 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: have to be. So my response to the lawyer was no, 81 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: as I said, no, you don't have to be and 82 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: and the lawyer actually said, then why would you why 83 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: would you get certified? And my answer was so you 84 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: don't end up here. I mean, really, that was the 85 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: question why wouldn't you or why would you get certified? Yeah, 86 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: so you have some knowledge because this is a really 87 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: important job and made me a little crazy, and I 88 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: so love working on those cases. By the way, because 89 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: these lawyers don't know what they don't know. I'll do 90 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: a whole show on that as well. But this is 91 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: a really important thing for you to know. Those of 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: you who are thinking of working with a personal trainer 93 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 1: or are currently personal trainers do not need to be certified, period, 94 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: end of story, full stop. And that's nuts when you 95 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: think about it. The industry, the business of not only 96 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: getting people healthy, but oftentimes you're working with people with 97 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: serious issues, cardiovascular, muscular issues, rehabilitating injuries. It is a 98 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: really important and a really difficult job. So, oh my gosh, 99 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: how crazy that you don't need to be certified. You 100 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: literally need no experience or education to be a personal trainer. 101 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: That's crazy, but that's the truth. Okay, So there you 102 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: have it. And to have gone from being a personal 103 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: trainer for so many years to actually working on these 104 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: lawsuits now and all that came in between, and it's 105 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: it's just amazing and I feel so fortunate. Granted, I 106 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: worked my butt off to get to this point, but 107 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: to be able to work on these cases and and 108 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: help out the people that need to be helped out. Now, 109 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: don't think I'm bashing the industry, because I'm not. I 110 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: love the industry. I worked in the industry for a 111 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: really long time. But what I will talk about in 112 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: the show is what needs to be done in the industry, 113 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: what it is, what it isn't. And you just need 114 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: to be aware because there's so much misinformation. That is 115 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: literally what this podcast is all about. It's giving you 116 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: information from someone who has done it, lived it, and 117 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: now working on the lawsuits around it. So really important 118 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: to know. Now, you will have some gyms that will 119 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: tell you, well, we certify our trainers and truthfully awesome 120 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: and and and some gym chains have certification programs that 121 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: they do themselves. And listen, anything is better than nothing, obviously, 122 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: uh and some of them are pretty good. But you 123 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: need to know if you're gonna work with someone what 124 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: their qualifications are. This is your health. And listen when 125 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: you get injured, when when you tweak something, pull something 126 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: at the very least, or or God forbid, something even 127 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: even worse than that. Quite often that body part is 128 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: no longer the same. So in other words, you really 129 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: want to avoid getting injured. And one of the top 130 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: things that train should focus on is do no harm, 131 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: right the old do no harm. My job when I 132 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: was a personal trainer was to get people the greatest 133 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: results in the shortest amount of time. Here's the really 134 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: important part though, the third part much more important than 135 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: the first two with the least likelihood of injury, all right, 136 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: And that third part is pretty much non existent for 137 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: most trainers out there. They don't even oftentimes know that 138 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: what they're doing is is really dangerous or inappropriate for 139 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: that person at that time. And that's in my opinion, nuts. 140 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: All right, it's your health, it's your wellness, it's it's 141 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: how you move, it's your heart. These are really important things, 142 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: and the person you work with should be qualified, all right. 143 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: And so when we come back from the break, I'm 144 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: going to talk about that. What do you look for? 145 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: How do you know? What are these certifications? What are 146 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: these certifications entail? We're in a totally new world with 147 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: the Internet. When I started, that's how long ago it was. 148 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Internet was not around. So when we come back for 149 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: the break and to talk about that, certification process. So 150 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: if and when you are deciding to use a personal trainer, 151 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: you will know what to look for. All right, So 152 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: we will be back right after this short break, and 153 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: we are back talking all about the truth about personal trainers, 154 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: a topic that is near and dear to my heart. 155 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: I loved doing it. It was challenging as heck. It 156 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: was tiring. You know, you could do five, six, eight, ten, 157 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: twelve clients a day or more, really tiring. And here's 158 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: one thing before I get into the certification process. It 159 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: is a really hard business to make a living at. 160 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Really hard for the long term, especially short term. Sure 161 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: you can get hired, you can make some money, but 162 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: it's it's the rare person who makes a career out 163 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: of it. Because there's only so many hours in a day, 164 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: and you charge X, you you multiply that by the 165 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: number of clients, and unless you do what I did 166 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: and say I need eight ten other revenue streams because 167 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a career out of this and I 168 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: want to be the best at it. It is a 169 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: hard business. And one of the reasons it's really hard 170 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: is people cancel all the time. And if people cancel, 171 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: you don't get paid. So think about that. Think about 172 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: a job where it is dependent upon someone keeping their 173 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: fitness obligations, keeping those appointments. And yes, there are some 174 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: gym's most that say there's a twenty four hour cancelation policy. 175 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: It is so rarely enforced because clients get really angry. 176 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Oh but you know, had a last minute thing with 177 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: my kids. Now, god forbid that client had something similar 178 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: done to them oftentimes, but yeah, people cancel all the 179 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: time and only just talk really quickly about how flawed 180 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: personal training is as a business model. And this comes 181 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: from someone who, as I've said before, war I always 182 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: said I would never own a gym, and I did 183 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: for a very short amount of time, and I'm very 184 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: glad I did because it reaffirmed and I learned a lot. 185 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: One main thing is I knew that I didn't want 186 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: to own a gym because, uh, generally that's to make money, 187 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: not to get people healthy. But the business of personal 188 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: training at a gym is one flawed at its core. 189 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: And the analogy I give is that it's literally like 190 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: a brothel. And I could go into greater detail, but 191 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: suffice it to say, think about it. You know, I 192 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: wrote in one of my books. You know, you you 193 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: literally roam the floors of the brothel trying to pick 194 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: up clients, right, scantily dressed men and women trying to 195 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: pick up clients. And when and if you do, you 196 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: get a very small cut of the take. Most goes 197 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: to the house. And that is so flawed at the 198 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: very core of it, because what happens inevitably and I 199 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: walk this at the gym's that I worked at many 200 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: years ago and then dealt with it as an owner, uh, 201 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: client trainers steel so simple math. Let's say it's a 202 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: hundred dollars an hour, which it is at many of 203 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: the metropolitan gym's, or more hundred dollars an hour. The 204 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: gym may get sixty seventy dollars. It's changing a little bit, 205 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: but the cut is generally not on the trainer's side, 206 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: and the trainer gets twenty to thirty dollars. Let's say, 207 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: so what inevitably happens? Two things inevitably happened to train 208 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: there either steals directly from the gym and says to 209 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: the client list and pay me in cash. Uh. And 210 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: they either tell them that or not that they're that 211 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: they're stealing from the gym. I've seen both sides many 212 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: times and pocket all the money and hope that the 213 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: gym doesn't notice. Or they say to the client, hey, listen, 214 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: you're paying a hundred dollars a session. Pay me sixty, 215 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: pay me sixty cash. And again they may say to 216 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: the client the jim, you know, tell the truth or not. 217 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: But now the trainer makes an hour and the client 218 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: saves forty dollars a session. And the final thing that 219 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: often happens is they just take it somewhere else. Trainer 220 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: goes to the client's house and pockets that hundred. So 221 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: it's tough to say, but it is the truth. If 222 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: you see a trainer who's at a gym for a 223 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: really long time and they want to make a career 224 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: of it, that there's that's generally the sign that something's wrong. 225 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: And I hate to say that because it's like the 226 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: teaching business. There are some teachers who are phenomenal who 227 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: teach underneath. You know, they just love teaching kids. They 228 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: could be teaching at university level or college, but they 229 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: just love it. So there are those people. Don't get 230 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: me wrong, But by and large, if you see trainers 231 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: at a gym for a really, really, really long time 232 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: as someone who's in the industry, something's up. Something's up, 233 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: not always but oftentimes, and and the question is what 234 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: is up? And I will leave it at that, But again, 235 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 1: it is one of the most important industries in the 236 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: world when you think about what we are dealing with 237 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: as personal trainers, helping people live longer, fixed injuries, rehabilitate issues, 238 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: and to have that industry essentially unregulated. You know, if 239 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: I can be in a lawsuit or the person that 240 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: the lawyer asks me and kind of makes fun of 241 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: the why would you get certified? And you know what 242 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: it costs money. I started out as a personal trainer, 243 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: and the difference between me and most of the people 244 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: I worked with was, even when I was just starting 245 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: out and getting my certifications, I knew what I didn't know, 246 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: and I wasn't falling the fads, and I wasn't putting 247 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: clients through crazy workouts, and I was always learning. And 248 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: then I put it all well, I didn't put it 249 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: on I was gonna say I put it on hold 250 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: to go get my master's degree, but I worked right 251 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: through that. I don't know why I had that slip. 252 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: I was working full time as a personal trainer. I 253 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: was getting my master's degree and I was still competing. 254 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: I did iron Man Malaysia when I started the master's 255 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: program in Exercise Science and Sports Psychology. But I knew 256 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to have more information, more education than just 257 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: about everyone in the business. What an easy way to 258 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: separate myself in an industry that wasn't regulated. And I 259 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: wanted people to know that when they worked with me, 260 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: when they heard what I had to say, that it 261 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: came from education and experience and passion and walking the walk, 262 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: all those things. You know. Back in the mid to 263 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: late nineties, when I said I'm going to make this 264 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: my career, that's exactly what I thought of. I'm gonna 265 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: get as much education. I spent so much money and 266 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: money I didn't have. I was not making a lot 267 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: of money at all, could barely scrape by. But I 268 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: loved it. I knew it was my future, and I 269 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: spent money where it should be spent. I I uh 270 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: talk about you know, I definanced my first bicycle to 271 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: do an iron Man. I you know, it was credit cards, 272 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: but I loved it. I was investing in my future, 273 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: all right. So certifications now there are a few top ones. 274 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Back in the day, as I was talking about, there 275 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: wasn't the internet, so you couldn't go online and get 276 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: your certification online, which you can to day. And many 277 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: certifications are just that pay the money, take an online 278 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: test where hey have the book open and google whatever 279 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: you want to do, and you got your certification. The 280 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: ones I got back in the day, you actually had 281 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: to go generally to a hotel for an entire weekend, 282 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: and you took tests. You were trained by different people 283 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: and how to do the exercises, and then there were practicals. 284 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: Most of that is is not there today. It's online 285 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: tests now. Listen, there's great value in just studying that 286 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: book and taking the test and learning all those different things. 287 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: I never stopped learning. My favorite gifts every Christmas from 288 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: my wife are three new textbooks. She gets me three 289 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: new textbooks every year, and it's generally a sports psychology one, 290 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: a physiology one, and a nutrition I never stopped reading 291 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: and never stopped learning. So there are top certifications out there. 292 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to name them right now so they 293 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: want to, uh, you know, be sponsors of the show, 294 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: but they're out there. You can google it. Uh. There 295 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: are better certificate. There's basically three or four of the 296 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: top ones. I got all of those back in the day, 297 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: all right, because I wanted and one. Several of them 298 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: are more cardiovascularly based, some are more strength based. There 299 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: are nutrition ones, but just no. So you know what 300 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: your your trainer has. So let's get right to that point. 301 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: If you if you're gonna work with a trainer, one 302 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: of the top questions you ask right off the bat 303 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: do you have certifications? And if so, what are they? 304 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: And generally people asked to see them too, because anyone 305 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: can tell you they have them. And now you can 306 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: google online or you can go to that certifications website 307 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: and oftentimes you can search to make sure they have them. 308 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: They can also show you a certificate. That's a really 309 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: important thing. So certifications for their training. Now, there are 310 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: trainers that have bachelor's and masters and pH d s. 311 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: Very few PhDs are working as trainers. Um but yes, 312 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: so undergraduate degrees in kinesiology, physical therapy, anatomy, physiat all 313 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that's important. So what knowledge, what 314 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: education does your trainer have? Super important? And then another thing, 315 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: do they walk the walk? Do they live the lifestyle? Again, 316 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: a totally separate topic. Does your trainer have to be fit? 317 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be I think it's super important. That's 318 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: why that was a huge part. I said, I'm gonna 319 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: walk the walk, I'm going to do these races. I'm 320 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: going to live and be the embodiment of what I'm 321 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: selling because that's really important to me. Does that mean 322 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: your trainer doesn't have the knowledge? Now? And and quite 323 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: often in this business it's the unfit trainer who's got 324 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: the most knowledge, and the fit trainer who's got the 325 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: great genetics but very little knowledge, all right, And and 326 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: the best person, in my opinion, that that I set 327 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: out to become, was the fittest with the most knowledge, 328 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: with the most information. That to me makes complete cates. 329 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Why are you settling? It's your body? Why are you 330 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: settling for someone who has not put that into effect 331 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: what they're trying to sell you, they haven't necessarily done. Again, 332 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,959 Speaker 1: the topic for another day. We will definitely do it. 333 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: Before I start a rant. I think we need to 334 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: take a very so one final break. I am Tom 335 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Holland this is Fitness Disrupted, and I will be right back. 336 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: And yes, we are talking all about the truth about 337 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: personal trainers. Let me say this too. Personal trainers are. 338 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: This is gonna sound crazy to you, but that's what 339 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: this shows about, is the truth. And and you know, 340 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: disrupting personal trainers are really not in the weight loss industry. 341 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: This is where it went completely awry. Okay. Personal trainers 342 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: get you strong. Personal trainers can rehabilitate injuries. It's prehab 343 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: versus rehab. It's personal trainers are going to get you 344 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: as strong as possible, fix your weak links, work on 345 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: your imbalances so that you can stay injury free, so 346 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 1: that you can enjoy your activities of daily living as 347 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: much as possible. And if you come to them with 348 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: an issue maybe you did, you know, injury yourself, playing sports, 349 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: doing something, then they can help you with that. That 350 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: is even more complicated, right, You need a trainer who 351 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: ideally knows how to basically apply physical therapy principles. But 352 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: those are the two reasons, okay. And it's really simple. 353 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: If you came to me as a client seven days 354 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: a week, seven sessions for an hour, it is what 355 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: you do outside that session that really dictates whether or 356 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: not you'll lose weight. Okay, If we just do cardio, 357 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: if we just do cardio for an hour straight and 358 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: I push you and that's it, just cardio. And how 359 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: many trainers actually do that with a client. I used to. 360 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: I used to run with clients when I moved up 361 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: to Connecticut, I used to run with clients from five 362 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: am till ten am eleven am. That's topic for another show. 363 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: But yes, you are going to lift weights, You're gonna 364 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: do other things. You're gonna burn some colies, of course 365 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: you are. But a pound is thirty cows. Most people 366 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: go to a trainer two to three times a week, 367 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: if you're lucky, right, three times generally for most people. 368 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't care, though, if you go seven times a week, 369 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 1: weight law us is going to be slow at best 370 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: because you're gonna burn several hundred calories at best, most 371 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: likely working with your trainer. So what does a trainer do? 372 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: Ideally when it comes to weight loss. They influence what 373 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: you do outside the gym, the food choices you make, 374 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: and the activity level you continue, the workouts you do 375 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: outside the gym, But first and foremost, it's about what 376 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: you eat. That's weight loss. So you go to a 377 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: trainer to get strong, to add life to your years, 378 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: to strengthen your heart, to strengthen your muscles, and all 379 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: of the myriad other benefits of exercise, strength training, cardio. 380 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: But you do not judge your exercise program, and you 381 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: do not judge your trainer by whether or not you 382 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: lose weight with them. This is what's so flawed. Also 383 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: about those unnamed shows on TV that go to weight loss. 384 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: You don't judge the value of your program based on 385 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: the numbers on a scale. That's for your nutritionists. That's 386 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: for what you eat, all right. That is so important, 387 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: the earth shattering in this world of personal training. That's 388 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: why you go to a trainer, all right. You go 389 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: to get motivated, You go to learn proper form if 390 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna exercise outside the gym, right, you go to 391 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: fix those weak links as I said, but it's not 392 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: about weight loss. It's not about weight loss. But they're great. 393 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Don't think then, I'm not telling you to go to 394 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: a personal trainer. Oh my gosh. When you find someone 395 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: you click with and you find someone who has knowledge, 396 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: and you find someone who motivates you to make those 397 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: changes as I just said, outside the gym, that's what 398 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: you're looking for. I should also say that one of 399 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: the most important things. If you're in the gym and 400 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,239 Speaker 1: you're thinking of of using a personal trainer, watch them 401 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: in action. Please watch them in action. It never ceases 402 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: to amaze me. Yes, I still go to the gym 403 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: when my kids are playing their sports. That's how I'm 404 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: maximizing my time. And I also want to see what's 405 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: going on. You know, the future of fitness is working 406 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: at home for the majority of it for most people. 407 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: But I go and it never ceases to amaze me 408 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: when I watched the trainers and the horrific body language, 409 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: the horrific way they do not pay attention to their clients. 410 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Watch your trainer. So if you're like, you know, I'm 411 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: thinking of using this woman or or this gentleman as 412 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: my trainer, watch them in action. Are they paying attention? 413 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: What do they do? Do they do the same workout 414 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: with all their clients. That's a problem. Okay, Yes, everyone 415 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: has their style, everyone has their philosophy, but they should 416 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: not be doing the exact same workout for every client. 417 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: That makes no sense. So watch them in action. Really important. 418 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: And I knew I loved you, know, as as crazy 419 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: and and stressful with money and things that were going 420 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: on in my life. Back when I was a trainer, 421 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: it was a really tough time in my life. I 422 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: loved what I did and I knew that people were watching, 423 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: and I took pride in what I did. And you 424 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of that today. And again, we 425 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: have the ability to literally change people's lives. For the 426 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: bad are as trainers. And when I see someone not 427 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: paying attention, when they have their hands in their pockets, 428 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: when they're just dialing it in, drives me crazy. It's 429 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: too important a business. And you know, I've worked with 430 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: so many clients over the years who had been turned off, 431 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: and thank goodness, they didn't give up. But they had 432 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: really bad trainers over the years, boot camp style, people 433 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: who screamed at them, you know, who made fun of them. 434 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: And that's not okay in my world. Alright, everyone's motivated differently. Sure, 435 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: there's some people that like to be yelled at. Most don't. 436 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: In my experience, there's some crazy trainers out there too. 437 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: As we get near the end of the show, let 438 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: me leave you with with at least a couple of stories. 439 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: Here's one. I went to work with the clients. So generally, 440 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: what you do is you work in gyms, as a trainer, right, 441 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: you get hired and then you ideally, especially in the 442 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: bigger cities, you go off on your own, which is 443 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: scary because you leave the gym where they are feeding 444 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: you clients and taking a lot of money to going 445 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: to a gym where you have to bring all your clients. 446 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: You have to keep more money, but you've got to 447 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 1: get the clients and you gotta keep the clients. So 448 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: that's scary. And then you either continue to do that 449 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: and or you start to work out of people's homes 450 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: and houses and apartment buildings, and that's an outside as well. 451 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: So back when I was up in Connecticut finishing up 452 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: my my last couple of years as a personal trainer, 453 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: I ended up working with you know, effluent clientele. For 454 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: the most part, it's just the area. And one was 455 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: literally paying so as a husband and wife who were 456 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: both working out with a trainer separate times, not at 457 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: the same time, and they were paying, yes this is true, 458 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: four hundred dollars an hour each of them. Now listen, 459 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: I got paid really well as a personal trainer in 460 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: my final years, and and uh, this was nuts. And 461 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I should say that because the guy, bless his heart, 462 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: who was training them eight hundred dollars two days. He's 463 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: done for the day, right, unless he wanted to make 464 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: a crazy amount. I'm sure he did continue some days, 465 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: but no credentials really, but he marketed himself as the 466 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: trainer to the elite, the trainer to the wealthy. So 467 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: my point in bringing up that story several but entertainment. 468 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: But just because the trainer charges a lot of money 469 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: does not mean that they are good. Oftentimes it's inversely 470 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: proportional the caliber of the trainer to what they charge. 471 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: There's some trainers, as I said, who will stay in 472 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: the gym for a really I know some, So again 473 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: I'm not painting them all with a really broad brush, 474 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: actually I am. Uh. What I should say is, uh, 475 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: there are the unique few, like great teachers as I 476 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: said earlier, who stay love what they do and don't 477 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: need to make a crazy amount of money and don't 478 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: need to leave. They just love it and they'll stay 479 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: in the same place. So there are those people, and 480 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: you know them, you will see them, and you'll you'll 481 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: talk to people that work with them. And and by 482 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: the way, there's the final thing to look for in 483 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: a trainer. Ask for for recommendations as for referrals or 484 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: people that have worked with them and talked those people, 485 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: say how was this guy? Did he cancel he or she? 486 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: What did they do? What did they help you with? 487 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: Working with a personal trainers super important that you find 488 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: the right person for you with the right credentials and 489 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: that matches you. And by the way, yes, even though 490 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about like you know, just because they look 491 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: great doesn't mean they're qualified. Absolutely, it's genetics people. That's 492 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: what drives me completely berserk about this Instagram world of trainers. 493 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: My gosh, just because they have good genetics doesn't mean 494 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: they have any idea what they're doing. And they didn't 495 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: get the body that they have by doing the workouts 496 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: that they're pushing to you. That's nuts. But if you 497 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: are a triathlete, if you are someone who wants to 498 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: build muscle, if you are a woman who wants you know, 499 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: something specific, generally go to the person who specializes in that, 500 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: who has that body type. And you want to be 501 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: a bodybuilder, then go to a bodybuilder. That just makes sense. 502 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: And that is one of the huge flaws with the 503 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: gym model too. By the way, the personal training manager 504 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: at many of the gym's is also a personal trainer, 505 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: and so oftentimes they will take the best clients, and 506 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 1: oftentimes they will pair up clients who come in with 507 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: a specific issue or a specific want with people that 508 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: don't necessarily the trainers that aren't best suited for them. 509 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: You know, I would work at gym's where I was 510 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: doing Ironman triathlons and running marathons, and and they would 511 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: give those clients who asked for that to other trainers 512 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: just because, just because because they were friends or or 513 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: something else. So, whatever your goals are, if you are 514 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: in the market for a personal trainer, then find that 515 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: person who specializes in that. And that doesn't mean that 516 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: they do that. I mean, we all know. You know, 517 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: you can be a professional triathlete, be a really bad coach, 518 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: be a really bad teacher. So you want to get 519 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: all those things because it is expensive and it is 520 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: your time, and I want you to get results. I 521 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: loved being a personal trainer. I love the craziness and 522 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: the challenge of it. And listen, if you the percentage 523 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: of change in personal training is really difficult for all 524 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: the reasons I just outlined, especially the flawed Hey, it's 525 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: about weight loss. And and I'm out to change that amount, 526 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: to change that in a big way. That that mindset, 527 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: the thought. We're going to talk about what exercises and 528 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: what it isn't and what we're what the goals are. 529 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: You don't necessarily no, I'm not saying you can't go 530 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: to a personal trainer for weight loss. Of course, it's 531 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: part of the whole puzzle. But you have work to 532 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: do too outside the gym, okay, outside your trainer. It's 533 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: all connected. So we talk about on the show each 534 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: and every week. It's not all or nothing diet, nutrition, motivation, 535 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: behavioral change. It's all so connected in ways that you 536 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: can't get in these four word clickbait internet articles. So 537 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: if you're in the market for a personal trainer, if 538 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: you're working with one now, if you're in the business, 539 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: by the way, if you want to be a personal trainer, 540 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: holy cow, one of the greatest jobs in and they 541 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: are over the statistic the numbers. I just saw over 542 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand personal trainers supposedly working now, and I'm 543 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: sure it's even more. And it's it's an industry that's 544 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: gonna boom and grow uh in the future. It's no 545 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: sign of slowing down. Just look at all the gyms 546 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: and all the boutique places popping up everywhere. Alright, so 547 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: listen for those personal trainers out there that are in 548 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: the market to to do that. Awesome, but be passionate 549 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: about it, all right. One of my major issues with 550 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: the business was the people who were like actors. You know, 551 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: once wrote an article. People got really angry trainers did 552 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: when I said, this is not a stepping stone. It 553 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't be. It's too important. And that may sound like 554 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: tough love, but I don't care. This is Fitness Disrupted 555 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: as what this show is about. Hey, if you're a way, 556 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: if you're you want to be an actor, go wait tables, 557 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: go bartend all right, get a temporary job because you're not. 558 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: You don't have the time or the motivation to dedicate 559 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: yourself to studying and loving being a personal trainer. It's 560 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: too important. It's a great way to end the show. 561 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: More people angry with me, but there you go. It's 562 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: too important. Thank you as always for listening to Fitness Disrupted. 563 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: You can listen at Apple Podcasts, on the I Heart 564 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,719 Speaker 1: Radio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. And hey, 565 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: you know what I would really appreciate if you have 566 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: follow this show, and hey, if you have a couple 567 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: extra minutes after you follow the show, leave a review, 568 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I would really appreciate it. So again, for those of 569 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: you who are thinking about becoming a personal trainer and 570 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: are passionate and want to really make a difference in 571 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: people's lives, Guess what when you help people achieve their goals. 572 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: When I help people train for their first five k, 573 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: ten k, half marathon, marathon, triathlon, walk, a thon, whatever 574 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: it was. When you help people do that, achieve what 575 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: they didn't think they could, there's no greater feeling in 576 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: the world, and you help people who had pain stop 577 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: having that pain. There's no greater feeling in the world, 578 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: and there's no greater business in the world, in my opinion, 579 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: and have it the truth about personal trainers. I'm Tom Holland. 580 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: This this Fitness Disrupted, Believe in Yourself m H. Fitness 581 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: Disrupted as a production of I Heart Radio. 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