1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: How are you? Thank you for going. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 2: We're on from one to four every day, then after 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: four o'clock John Cobet Show on demand on the iHeart 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: app and you could listen to what you missed. It's 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: the same as the radio show, it's the podcast version. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: We're going to get right into this. We had Freddy 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: Escobar on some months back. He is the United Firefighters 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles City chief president of that union, and 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Freddy is going to come on because United Firefighters of 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: LA City is strongly opposing Kristin Crowley's firing by Karen Bass. 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: And let's get Freddy Escobar on. Freddy, thank you for 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: coming on again. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 3: Hey John, thank you for having us. And I look 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: forward to this discussion. And we're just going to be 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 3: factual on all the questions. There are beings. 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: OK, all right, Well, give me an overview of what 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: you and I guess this entire organization United Firefighters. What 20 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: do you believe about Kristin Crowley? Is she being treated 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: unfairly by Karen Bass? 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: Well, we're outraged disappointed on her removal as our fire chief. 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: I have thirty five years on the LAF team and 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: the first time in my career we had a fire 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: chief speak up and represent the boots on the ground 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: about what's actually happening at city Hall regarding funding a 27 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: fire department that is understaffed and under budgeted for twenty 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: twenty five period. We support Chief Crowley and as we 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: are very disappointed on her removal, think about it, Labor 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: is supporting a fire chief that usually doesn't happen. 31 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: Why is it that? Karen Bass? And now we have 32 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: another character that went public today. The acting mayor at 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: the time was Marquise Harris Stauson, and he's the city 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: council president and he was acting mayor as the fire 35 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: was breaking out because Bass was in Africa, and he's 36 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: backing Bass. He's backing the firing as well. When you 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: have the mayor and the city council president backing, agreeing 38 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: on the firing, and not commenting at all about the 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: massive underfunding, what does that say about the government in 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: Los Angeles? 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Well, I could tell you what we've been saying, and 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: we've been saying it, and we have the receipts. We 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: are woefully understeffed, an underbudgeted fire department, And we said 44 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: it before this incident broke out in Pacific policies, we 45 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: need additional resources, we need additional staffing. And to answer 46 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: your question, what it says is I have no idea. 47 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 3: I don't have an answer for it other than what 48 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: we've been saying to all the Angelinos, it's time to 49 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: prioritize the LAFD. 50 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: You guys get much less money than they spend on homelessness. 51 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: You know, all the all the crazy people out there, 52 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: and the homeless start more than half the fires in 53 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: La City. And that that that by itself makes me nuts. 54 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: How is it you short changed the firefighters? You spend 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: a billion, three hundred million on the homeless, and the 56 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: homeless are starting the firefighters are starting the fires. I 57 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: mean over fifty percent of the fires are started by 58 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: the homeless. I don't understand what's going on here. It 59 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: seems to be a crazy set of priorities. 60 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 3: Well that is that is a frustration of the members 61 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: that I represent and myself just on homelessness. But no, 62 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: just on homelessness. I want everybody to to think about 63 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: these numbers. In a calendar year, the LAFD runs on 64 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: sixty six thousand calls on just homelessness. That's one hundred 65 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: and eighty calls a day just on homelessness calls. That's 66 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: not including the additional calls that we receive. And we 67 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: have lesser members, less fire stations today than we had 68 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty nine, and we're running four to five 69 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: times the call loads. Just not sustainable what the men 70 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: and women of the LAFD are doing. 71 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: And it's over fourteen thousand fires a year are set 72 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: by the homeless. 73 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 3: That is correct. 74 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: That's a staggering number. That's hard. 75 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: I don't most people don't know this, but fourteen thousand 76 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: times your men and women are called to put out 77 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: a fire started by a street vagrant. 78 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: That's so crazy. 79 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And not only does it start at a rubbish level, 80 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: it goes into people's homes, it goes in to commercial buildings, 81 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: it starts wildland fires. I mean, we have a homeless crisis. 82 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: From where the city of Los Angeles is spending one 83 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: point four billion dollars on a homeworks column. That's only 84 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: things to get worse. But we don't have enough money 85 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: to fund a fire department correctly. It's ridiculous. We're outraged. 86 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: We finally had a fire chief that was standing up 87 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 3: for us and speaking off the same page. We're together, 88 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: locked arms, and she's removed. 89 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: According to there's some kind of national Fire Council that 90 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: says you're supposed to have two firefighters for every thousand 91 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: residents in a city, and LA has zero point nine firefighters. 92 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: It seems like the fire department is half funded. 93 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: That is correct. We have a very comprehensive study that 94 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: shows that we need sixty two additional new fire stations, 95 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: one hundred more firefighters, engines, trucks, and we need it 96 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: sooner than later. We cannot sustain what we're doing in 97 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 3: the city of Los Angeles. We need help out there, 98 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: and we need people to start speaking up and telling 99 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: the truth. 100 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Why. 101 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 3: Fortunately the fire chief told the truth, right, and this 102 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 3: is what happens. Tell the truth, you're going to be removed. 103 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: Why do you think Bass and the rest of them 104 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: never want to fund the fire department? Like you know, 105 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: where I grew up, the fire fighters and the police 106 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: were held on an exalted level. Everybody was always fully funded. 107 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: Whatever the fire and the police chiefs needed, they got. 108 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: What is it about Los Angeles unlike any other city, 109 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: because I've seen the firefighter race in other cities. We 110 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: are way way behind most major cities in this country. 111 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: What is it out here? 112 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: Well, it could be the wrong priorities. And they also 113 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: have had fire chiefs that have said, hey, I'll make 114 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: it happen. We could do more with less, and Chief 115 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: Crowley spoke up. We were in locked arms on the budget. 116 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: We're in locked ms moving forward. Now she's removed. So 117 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: she's removed, and the optics of this looks like they're 118 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: putting a potential puppet in place to do what the 119 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: mayor wants, and that is not We're not going to 120 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: stand for that. We're going to speak up. We're going 121 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: to continue to tell the truth, and we're going to 122 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: see if this interim fire chief is going to stand 123 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: up for the men and women in the field in 124 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: the LAFD. 125 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: What do you think Karen Bass saying that she didn't 126 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: get warnings on the extreme fire danger that was coming. 127 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: She said she wasn't aware of the warning. When you 128 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: heard that, what did you think? 129 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. I mean, if you're in Los Angeles and 130 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: if you're in California across the Nation, they were talking 131 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: about this upcoming wins, Perkin like wins that are being predicted. 132 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it's simply ridiculous. 133 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: Do you think she's telling the truth that she really 134 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: wasn't aware of it for those two days. 135 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not gonna judge her character. I'll 136 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: let Joe Public do that. But let's ask around. Everybody 137 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 3: knew that these wins were coming. 138 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: So why do you think she fired Crowley? 139 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: Because Crowley told the truth on the severe underfunding and 140 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: she went public with it right away in the early 141 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: days of the fire. 142 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,359 Speaker 3: I mean, just to put it in one word, skategoat 143 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 3: not making any sense to me. All the reasonings, and 144 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: that's what is our frustration, outrage, all the reasoning that 145 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: they point out to. They're not doing the one thousand 146 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: members for relief, the unwillingness to do it after action report. 147 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: I want you to think about that largest fire in 148 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: Los Angeles City, and we're not going to do an 149 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: after action report. That's that's ludicrous. 150 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: What do you mean we're not They're not going to 151 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: do one. 152 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: They're doing one. 153 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: That's best said Bess said Crowley wouldn't do an after 154 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: action report and you're saying that's not true. 155 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: That is not true. So the reasons that she has 156 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: given all the Angelinos why she was removed are inaccurate. 157 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: They're absurd. It's ridiculous. 158 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: That's what Monica Roe Reguez said yesterday, the council woman. 159 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's frustrating, you know, I'm frustrated because we had 160 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: a general manager speak up and tell the truth. The 161 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: men and women in the LAFD supported her for saying 162 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: that we knew what was that risk. She came out 163 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: out against you know what the norm is. But the 164 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: men and women in my thirty five years never heard 165 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: of fire chief speak out and stand up for the troops. 166 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 3: So she's being removed for telling the truth. I want 167 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: everybody to really wrap their minds around that. What's the 168 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: message we're sending out. Tell the truth. They're gonna be 169 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 3: removed La County. They had more houses that were destroyed, 170 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: they had higher fatality, and we're all these losses are terrible, 171 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: But you don't see anybody asking their fire chief to 172 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: step down. Are they gonna blame the fire Are they 173 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: gonna blame us for the water? Are they gonna blame 174 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: us for the lack of maintenance on the hydrants. You 175 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 3: don't see them attacking. Uh fionis this is ridiculous? 176 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Can you can you hang on for Can you hang 177 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: on for another segment? 178 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: Yes, sir? 179 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: All right, good, because I want to cover all those 180 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: issues that you just brought up. We have the head 181 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: of United Firefighters of Los Angeles. I want to get 182 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: their name right. President Freddy Escobar is on with us, 183 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: and we're going to talk more with him coming up next. 184 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 185 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: six forty. 186 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 2: We continue with Freddy Escobar. He's the president of the 187 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: United Firefighters of Los Angeles City and they are angry 188 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: and outraged over the firing of LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley. 189 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Let's get Freddy Escobar on again. Let's let's let's talk 190 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: about what the firefighters had to deal with the day 191 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: of the fire and beyond the reservoir being empty. I 192 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: constantly read apologists for Bass and Jenise Camionias from the 193 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: DWP claim, well, that wouldn't have made a difference, And 194 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: I'm thinking one hundred and seventeen million gallons you're in 195 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: the business, would that have made a difference? 196 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean absolutely, more is better, right, additional water, 197 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: We had hydrants that were working properly. I mean the 198 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: wind condition was a massive factor, but with the amount 199 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 3: of fires, more water, the better it is. I was 200 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: actually down at the command post the first night. I 201 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 3: saw that Engine sixty nine was trying to extinguish a 202 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: fire and the water was just coming back at them. 203 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 3: I mean, these were conditions that I have never experienced. 204 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 3: I'm not a big brust guy, and I've spoken to 205 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: all the not all of them, but I've spoken to 206 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: the men and women who have had that experience, and 207 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: all of them have said it's nothing they've ever experienced. 208 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: What about pre deployment, I mean the Los Angeles Times 209 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: had that big article quoting former deputy chiefs or assistant 210 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 2: chiefs that there should have she should have kept over 211 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: a thousand firefighters onto an extra shift, and she had 212 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: forty engines, and they should have been dispersed in in 213 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: the hillsides from Pacific Palisades out east and then on 214 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: the other side of the mountain from Woodland Hills out 215 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: to Studio City, and that there should have been engines 216 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: driving around, crews driving around and if they saw a 217 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: wisp of smoke quickly, putting out any kind of a fire. 218 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: Is there a legitimacy in that criticism because I know 219 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people the Palisades and they think that 220 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: people should have been there that morning. 221 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and let's see they're getting the source 222 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 3: of information the Pringle is getting is from two disgruntled employees. 223 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: Let's start with that, and it's easy to Monday night quarterback. Right. 224 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: One of the things that isn't being discussed is our budget. 225 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: We were doing a cut before this fire started, a 226 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: white paper to cut an additional seventeen million dollars and 227 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: the fire chief, Right, the fire chief made a decision 228 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: not to staff certain things. But there was pre deployment 229 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: in certain areas, so it's difficult. She did the best 230 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: she could with the limited resources she had. 231 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: But right, right, But they're what they're saying is she 232 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: had a thousand firefighters, she had forty engines, and everyone 233 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: was sent home and the engines stayed in the garage. 234 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: What if she had sent them out that morning, would 235 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: that have been the right thing to do? 236 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: Well, what's wrong about that claim is we don't have 237 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: a thousand spots to put these firefighters. Our budget was cut. 238 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: We have one hundred engines trucked ambulances in our maintenance 239 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: yard to get repaired, and we don't have the mechanics 240 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: to fit them because the budget was cut. When we 241 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: did do a recall, we had more men and women 242 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: at the fire station waiting to be to get receive 243 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: an assignment, and we had nowhere to put them. So 244 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. 245 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: It just seems like the whole government here in LA 246 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: is completely mismanaged. Empty reservoir hydrants don't work, not a 247 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: fire trucks, like a hundred of them are broken, no 248 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: mechanics to fix them if firefighters available, but you don't 249 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: have trucks to put them on. I mean, it just 250 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: seems like nothing's working. The fire department's half funded, Homeless 251 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: people are starting hundreds of fires, fourteen thousand fires a year. 252 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: I've never seen a city in such chaos in my life, 253 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: and I've lived in New York and Chicago. 254 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: I have never seen this. 255 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: Well, that's the way we feel, right, and that's what 256 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 3: we see. And I believe if because and I believe 257 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: all this is going to come out on the after 258 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: action report, it's a third ball, it's a third party 259 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: unbiased report that hopefully addresses all of those issues. It's frustrating. 260 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 3: We've been doing more with less and we need to 261 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: either prioritize LAFD or say, hey, this is the department 262 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: we're gonna have. 263 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: So there is an after action report on the fire response. 264 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: So Bass is not telling the truth when she fired 265 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 2: Crowley because Crowley's not producing one. 266 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 3: Well, I could tell you every reason that is given 267 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: for her removal is inaccurate. Period. That's why we're frustrated. 268 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: That's why we're outraged now, I believe because we're in 269 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: locked arms with the fire chief, with then fire Chief 270 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: Crowley on saying enough is enough. We're asking this for 271 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: our budget. I'm gonna lead this. We're gonna be with you. Chief. 272 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for speaking up. That's why I 273 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: believe she was removed and she's being used a scapegoat 274 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: at all. 275 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: Right, thank you for coming on, and I hope we 276 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: can talk again soon because I think the story is 277 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: going to go on for a long time. 278 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: Well, thank you, And as the story goes on, and 279 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: if you want to hear the truth, he'd be more 280 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: than willing to come and speak to you very much. 281 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: All right, Freddie Askabar United Firefighters of Los Angeles City. 282 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: He is the president of that group, and you heard him. 283 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: He and the union strongly opposing the firing Kristin Crowley. 284 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: And they don't think Karon Bass is telling the truth. 285 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: You know, the number of people who think Bass is 286 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: not telling the truth on a number of issues keeps 287 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: piling up. I'll go through a quick rundown of that 288 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: when we come back. And there is a podcast out 289 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: now that was from November where Kristin Crowley went public 290 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: saying how terribly underfunded the fire department is and really, 291 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: when you look at it, it seems really seems insane. 292 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I mean, the LA Fire Department is underfunded by an 293 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: insane amount of money. 294 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Why is this? 295 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: And all the money is poured into homeless services and 296 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: they're the ones who start fourteen thousand fires. I know 297 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: I keep saying this, but seriously, this cake go on. 298 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 2: This is lunacy is this is a psychotic. 299 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: Way to run a city. We come back more on that. 300 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM. 301 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: Six forty moistline is eight seven seven moist eighty six 302 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: eight seven seven moist eighty six also use the talkback 303 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: feature on the iHeartRadio app. What I've been noticing is 304 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: most a lot of the public figures involved in this 305 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: fire controversy do not believe Karen Bass is telling the truth, 306 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: or they're accusing her of lying, or you know, they're 307 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: using polite language to accuse her of lying. I mean, 308 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 2: just today, Steve Soberoff was quoted recorded speaking at home 309 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: Harvard Westlake at an alumni meeting where he felt he 310 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: was lied to when he was told that he was 311 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: going to get five hundred thousand dollars for ninety days 312 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: of work, and then she Bass came and wanted the 313 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: money back, and sober offf thinks he was lied to. 314 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Now he's tried to soften those comments since, but that's 315 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: what he said when he didn't know he was being recorded. 316 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: So I'll take that as the truth. And then also 317 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: it turns out that the nonprofits, these organizations that we 318 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: were told was going to supply the five hundred thousand 319 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 2: dollars to sober Off, they wanted to pull out. They 320 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: objected to the money going to him. They weren't told 321 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: that that was going to be the destination of the funding. 322 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: I guess bast asked him to contribute money for the fire, 323 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 2: and they didn't know what was going to sober Off 324 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: that he was going to they get a half million 325 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: dollars for ninety days work, and that's why she had 326 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: to go to sober Off and say we can't do this. 327 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: So she wasn't straight with these philanthropic organizations. 328 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: She wasn't straight with sober Off. He says, she lied. 329 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: And now you have Monica Rodriguez yesterday saying that Bass 330 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: is misrepresenting the facts when it comes to Crowley being 331 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: fired because Crowley doesn't have enough time to put together 332 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: an after action report. They just finished cleaning up all 333 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: the damage from the floods last week. She says, Bass 334 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: is misrepresenting the facts. Well, that's a very polite political 335 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: word for lying. And now you had just Freddie Escobar 336 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: on intimating the same thing that, hey, there is an 337 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: independent after action report coming. So to say you're firing 338 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: her for a firing Crowley for a lack of an 339 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: after action report is just false. And there seems to 340 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: be a lot of this swirling around Karen Bass. She's 341 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 2: I think the biggest whopper of all. She's claiming she 342 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 2: didn't know she wasn't aware of any fire warnings? Would 343 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: it actually absolutely saturated Los Angeles media? People around the 344 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: country knew it was coming. So she doesn't seem to 345 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: be honest here. People think she's lying. People think she's mischaracterizing, 346 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 2: misrepresenting things, not being forthcoming about all the details. 347 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: Is anybody going to demand an accounting of all this? 348 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 2: That's too many people here. The only one sticking up 349 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: for publicly is this acting mayor Marquise Harris Dawson, who 350 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: was supposedly running things when Bass was in Africa, and 351 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 2: he's trying to break out Crowley too for not calling him. 352 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: What is with Harris Dawson in Bass? She didn't call me? 353 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Was Harris Dawson not following the news either? If I'm 354 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 2: the mayor, If you're the mayor, what would you do 355 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: you see extreme fire warnings? Of course you're gonna call 356 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 2: the fire chief immediately as soon as you hear extreme 357 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: fire warnings on Thursday? The second you call the fire chief, right, 358 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: I would. I don't think you need any special knowledge 359 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: or education. You don't have to be a genius to 360 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: do that. It's like, Wow, this sounds really dangerous. I'm 361 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: gonna call fire chief, see what we have planned? Does 362 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: she need any you know, special emergency powers from me 363 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 2: to Harris Dawson said, I was acting mayor at the time, 364 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 2: and I was not getting a flow of information from 365 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: the chief during that time period. Frankly, I did not 366 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: talk to her until I showed up to a press 367 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: conference at four o'clock that afternoon of the fire. 368 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: Well why don't you call her? 369 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: Why didn't Marquise Harris Dawson call Crowley since Bass was 370 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: in Africa, shouldn't he. 371 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: Have done it? 372 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: And now he's trying to distract too, saying, well, we 373 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: have to fire Crowley, this, that, and the other thing. Look, 374 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: I've been clearer. I don't think Crowley made all the 375 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: right decisions that day. But Bass and Harris Dawson, this 376 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: is classic scapegoating right in front of our eyes here, 377 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: and neither one wants to take any responsibility for their 378 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: lack of action or their mistakes. Harris Dawson said, while 379 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 2: firefighters are out fighting fires, facing fires, you're in the 380 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: comfort of your office doing an interview with a news 381 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: outlet that you know to be antagonistic towards the mayor 382 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: and several of the council. 383 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't know who he's talking about there. 384 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: I thought that demonstration of poor judgment was enough to 385 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: warrant separation. This is over Crowley giving interviews during the 386 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: fire saying the city failed the department. I guess that 387 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: would be Fox eleven. Fox eleven is considered hostile to 388 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 2: the mayor and the city council. Why because they report 389 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: the truth. There's a pattern here. If you report truth, 390 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: you're part of the hostile media. If you tell the 391 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: truth as fire chief, then you have to be separated. 392 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: What's with all the euphemism is out of him? 393 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: And why is Harris Dawson in Bass complaining that Crowley 394 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: didn't call them? Why don't you call Crowley? And why 395 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: hasn't anybody in the media asked them that? Well, why 396 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: didn't you make a call? You had the power as 397 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: acting there. What is this going on? These people are 398 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: shameful cowards, absolutely shameful cowards, and they think nobody's gonna notice. Well, 399 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 2: I guess maybe a lot of people don't notice because 400 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 2: there's only a handful of outlets reporting on all this stuff. 401 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 2: But there is seems to be a lot of dishonesty. 402 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: I mean, even in the Alex Michaelson interview, just the 403 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: way she's answering the questions to be Frank, I wasn't 404 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: aware of the warnings. Now Crowley's been saying this not 405 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: just during the fire. I mean they got you know, 406 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: Harris Dawson has his panties all tied up because it 407 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: was during the fire. 408 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Well, listen to this. They don't have the audio on 409 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: this yet, but. 410 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: Back in November, Kristin Crowley went on a podcast hosted 411 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: by a Metro whistleblower named Jane Osborne, former chief safety 412 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: officer at Metro. She was fired after speaking out by 413 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: what she uncovered at La Metro. Ah, so she played 414 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: the role of Kristin Crowley last year telling the truth 415 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: about La Metro, probably over the lack of safety, and 416 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: Osborne got fired and she had Kristin Crowley on to 417 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: tell the true about bass. Osborne said in interviewing Crowley, 418 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: based on my conversations with her, she was sounding the 419 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: alarms the entire time that she was the chief, that 420 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 2: she didn't have the resources she needed, that she was underfunded, 421 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: and that she was understaffed. So I don't see how 422 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 2: the firing is justified. In the podcast, Crowley said, when 423 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 2: it comes to my position as chief of advocating and 424 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 2: fighting for the safety and well being of a firefighters, 425 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: that's my job to stand up and say the fire 426 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: department can no longer operate this way. 427 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: We're understaffed. This is an exact quote. 428 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: We're understaffed, under resourced, underfunded, and our Los Angeles City 429 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: Fire Department is literally at a crossroads. So the Maverick 430 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: move for me is to stand up and say our 431 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: fire department can no longer do this. She said this 432 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: in November, and this underfunding has been going on forever. 433 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: We just had Freddy Escobar on the president of the 434 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: United Firefighters of LA. 435 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: He says, we have fewer. 436 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 2: Stations than we did in nineteen sixty nine, fewer fire 437 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,479 Speaker 2: stations than nineteen sixty nine, and they have five times 438 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 2: as many calls. 439 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: The vagrants produced. 440 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 2: Sixty six thousand calls a year, one hundred and eighty 441 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: a day, and they start fourteen thousand fires. And that's 442 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: where the money's going. Boy, do we need a Doge 443 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: investigation here? 444 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: Huh? 445 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: That's incredibly corrupt, inept, and incompetent. You're spending a billion, 446 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dollars on the homeless, and they they 447 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: create sixty six thousand fire and paramedic calls a year 448 00:27:53,000 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 2: and fourteen thousand fires. Wow, and all that money. We 449 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 2: spend a billion four every year and we just get 450 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 2: more homeless, more mental patients, more more drug addicts, more fires, 451 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: more emergency calls. And I'm telling you we have half 452 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 2: the firefighters that's recommended by these national fire organizations. 453 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: We have half. So they have been funded and that's 454 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: what that's. 455 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: What everybody agrees to. We just had Freddy Escobar and says, no, 456 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: that's true. They're funded a fifty percent rank. Who out 457 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: there wants your city only funding fifty percent of the 458 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: minimum fire department requirements. What I'm talking about is minimum, 459 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: and we're fifty percent below that now. And we pour 460 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: over a billion dollars to all these lunatics out there 461 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: who spend all day calling in emergencies and starting fires 462 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: us with the fun of it. It's we're truly in 463 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 2: crazy land. And then you have all these people covering 464 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: up for Karen Bass. She's in Ghana trying to get 465 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 2: a consulate arrangement here in La for Ghana. What are 466 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: you doing? Oh I wasn't. Frankly, I wasn't aware of 467 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: the fire warnings check to go to Ghana. We needed 468 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: a consulate. This is crazy, absolutely crazy. She should none 469 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: of these people should get away with this. I mean, 470 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: this is this is this like murder. I mean we 471 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: we had what eleven people die in that fire. Twelve 472 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: people died in that fire. 473 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI AM 474 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: six forty. 475 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: When we come back, we're going to talk to State 476 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: Senator Susette Martinez Valderis. She's from the Lancaster Santa Clarita District, 477 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: Republican and the Republicans in Sacramentar are calling out Newsom 478 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: because even though Prop thirty six passed, they these Republicans 479 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: are saying that Newsom is not following through with the 480 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: funding in order to rehabilitate the drug addicts. Like the 481 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: drug addicts are gonna get arrested now and they have 482 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: the option to get some kind of drug treatment, but 483 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: that has to be funded. That's another thing they ultimately 484 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: never fund. They never fund the drug treatment. They passed 485 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: Prop forty seven ten years ago and said, well, you know, 486 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna use the money that we're saving for drug treatment, 487 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: and it didn't happen. 488 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: Same thing here. 489 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 2: It's like they don't fund the fire department, they don't 490 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: fund the drug treatment, they don't fund psychiatric facilities for 491 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: all the crazy people in the street. I'm telling you 492 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: you need dojen Elon musk, Sorry, you need Trump musk 493 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: and doze here. 494 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: I think that's evident. 495 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the amount of corruption and waste and 496 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 2: theft going on. We'll get to that after three o'clock. 497 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: I got something funny, though I only had. I've been 498 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: in here, and I'd bring this to you because of 499 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: all your strange phobias. Okay, have you ever heard of 500 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: morteuse sequis phobia? 501 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: I have not. It is a crippling fear of ketchup. No, 502 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't fear ketchup. 503 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: New York posted a story on a woman from Great Britain. 504 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: Her name's Lee Woodman, and she has panic attacks every 505 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: time she's near ketchup. 506 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: Why does she think it's blood? 507 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: She's had to steer clear of it as long as 508 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: she could remember, and everybody makes fun of her. She 509 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: feels like she's having a panic attack, so she's banned 510 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: ketchup from her house. She avoids looking at it, and 511 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: she throws out any cookware that's been infected with ketchup. 512 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: If she thinks ketchup is touched, I guess any of 513 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: her pots or pans or dishes it's out. 514 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: That is weird. 515 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: She's thirty two years old. I can't even look at 516 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: a bottle of ketchup or have it anywhere near me. 517 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 2: And I guess it's common enough. I mean, it's I've 518 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: never heard of it, but it's got an official medical 519 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: phrase to describe it, more to sequisophobia. 520 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: But I don't understand it, she. 521 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: Posted on social media. The video has got almost a 522 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: million views. I'm fully aware of how dramatic it sounds. 523 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: I've always been embarrassed by it. If someone were to 524 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: hold me at gunpoint, I would freeze in panic. And 525 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: that's exactly how I'd feel if someone shoved ketchup in 526 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: my face. 527 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: So what happens is she has a burger or something, 528 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: or a hot dog, and there happens to be some 529 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: ketchup on it. 530 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: She acts the way you do when there's an earthquake. 531 00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: She runs around without her clothes, screaming. If it's put 532 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: in my face, I'll freeze the smell and texture is 533 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: really bad. If someone waved it in my face, I 534 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: would be sick. The smell that makes me feel so sick. 535 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: My worst fear is it being all over my dishwasher, 536 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: because then I would never be able to use that 537 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: or any of my plates or cutlery. 538 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: Again. 539 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: Wow, She says, it's not about it reminding her of blood, 540 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: and she's upset because people see it as a joke 541 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: and find it funny. 542 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I look, it's odd. 543 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 3: You should empathize, right, I mean people think I'm odd. 544 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: So well, that's right, that's right. Who are you to 545 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: tell her that's crazy? Huh right, exactly. 546 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: Look at the mirror there, all right, we come back, 547 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: uh State Senator. She's at Martinez Valderas, and it looks 548 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: like Gavin Newsom and the Democrats and the legislature have 549 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: decided to say, screw the voters, we don't care that 550 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: Prop thirty six was passed. They are not going to 551 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: spend any money on, for example, treating the drug addicts. 552 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: That Prop thirty six has created this mechanism that you 553 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 2: arrested drug addicts, you either go to prison or you 554 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: go for treatment, which is the way it used to 555 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: be well. Newsom and the legislator leaders don't want to 556 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: fund the treatment or the mental health issues that are needed. 557 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: That's coming up next, Debor Mark. Yeah, I got to 558 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: find like some kind of odd ball fear you have 559 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: that I can really and I'll never share with you, 560 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: whether just bring a hamburger, I'm afraid. 561 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: Of Burger's, Eric, I just don't eat. 562 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: Them, that remark Live the CAFI twenty for our newsroom. Hey, 563 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 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