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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: But you're a guess to my home. You gotta come

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Speaker 1: to be empty, and I said, no guests, your presences, presents,

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Speaker 1: and I already had too much stuff. So how did

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Speaker 2: Well, it's I said, no gifts. Welcome. I'm bridge Winneger,

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Speaker 2: having a decent defined day. I wanted to go to

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Speaker 2: breakfast and have a biscuit, and the restaurant was out

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Speaker 2: of biscuits. And these little challenges are where you find

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Speaker 2: out where who you really are. And I think I

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Speaker 2: did well with the surprise. I shifted to another menu item,

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Speaker 2: which the waiter or the cashier told me was her

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Speaker 2: favorite menu item. It ended up essentially just being a

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Speaker 2: tortilla full of potatoes that all said. Everything's fine, And

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited because thank god, we've got one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite people here. Today's guest Carrie O'Donnell. Just a delight, Carrie,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Hi Berzer, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. You're wearing a Palm Springs T shirt. I

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Speaker 3: bought this shirt last weekend and Palm Springs at the

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Speaker 3: right aid there. Okay, as you can see, beautiful. It

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Speaker 3: really speaks to what Palm Springs has to do. And

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Speaker 3: I've never bought something at I did, like a clothing item,

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Speaker 3: so I feel I felt kind of like I felt punk.

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Speaker 3: Of course. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I always feel like there was like crates of T

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's yeah, like just got to get

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Speaker 2: Bright red T shirt put on before I meet Drew.

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Speaker 3: Or yeah, yeah, I bought like socks at CVS before.

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Speaker 3: But I've never I've never done this. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I think you should commit. I works on a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little dad headie, have you.

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Speaker 2: Ever made a tidy T shirt?

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Speaker 3: I think as a as a boy, as a boy

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Speaker 2: Okay, sure, yeah, I think I made one. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done. I have one one. We had like

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Speaker 3: a family dance every year at my school. In one

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Speaker 3: my mom actually was one of the moms that ran it.

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Speaker 3: It was called the family dance. It was one of

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Speaker 2: What's what sort of dancing are you doing at a

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Speaker 3: Well? That was my fourth grade family dance was the

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Speaker 3: first time I ever heard believe by share. This really

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Speaker 3: To know? They're kind of like hawking around like chaperoning.

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Speaker 2: at the middle school dance and I requested Meredith Brooks's

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Speaker 2: The full album. What was the reception? I think supportive

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Speaker 3: like Carrie. This is stupid. Why did you bring this?

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Speaker 3: They were sort of just like okay, Carrie, like we'll

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Speaker 2: That's like the perfect nineteen ninety eight moment, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But the pain of trying to, you know, get them

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Speaker 2: That takes a huge step to bring. I mean to

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Speaker 2: Just to sit there with a friend with to look

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were Twitter friends for a while and then yes,

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Speaker 3: Steve started cat Fancy, and then Eli Youden, who's great,

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Speaker 2: And then it blew up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like I mean again, I was living

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was like just tweeting as Tilda Swinton,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, emerging from various things. Yeah, it's just like

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Speaker 2: Oh that's beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And then Eli wrote back, you know, we're not sure

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Speaker 3: and we actually went to Robert Mercer, who funded Breitbart.

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Speaker 3: guess I can say this now because it's sure, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: Totally. Did you ever see that documentary? I cannot remember

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Speaker 3: It's so crazy. That is that is crazy about your professor.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what I travel with that every my trunk

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Speaker 3: in my refrigerator. It was up for like a year.

442
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I had at a job years ago.

443
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: I would just be on the internet wasting time all

444
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: day and somehow came across that horrible little boy.

445
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 3: He kind of like Jodie Foster, Yeah, she was a girl,

446
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: like a little girl, but like if her teeth were

447
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 3: her head. Yeah, he was not like joy but like

448
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 3: had that he.

449
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: Had like kind of swoopy hair but more of like

450
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: a kid act or energy. That was so horrible. I

451
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: wonder what's happened to him, but.

452
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: It was that was probably the best thing ever sent me. Okay,

453
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 3: it shook me, just kind of fired up, unsettled.

454
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 2: A good gift should do that, just leave somebody feeling

455
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: uneasy and scared.

456
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I like gifts. I mean I'm actually

457
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: maybe it's like the Catholic in me, but I get

458
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 3: really like, like at Christmas time, I'm always like, don't

459
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: get me anything? Why did you do this? And it's

460
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 3: probably really annoying of the person, but I have I

461
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 3: do sometimes have a hard time accepting gifts because probably

462
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: of some underlying issues right that well we don't need

463
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 3: to unpact. But yeah, I like gifts.

464
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: Have you gotten any good gifts recently? Yeah?

465
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: I got a robe.

466
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: Oh that's a great gift. A robe or slippers, the

467
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: things you don't buy for yourself ever, And then once

468
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: you have you're like, why wasn't this part of my life?

469
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 3: My boyfriend got me an iPhone.

470
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 2: Oh very nice.

471
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty amazing. Yeah, I like I just

472
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: like like small. Right.

473
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: Do you like giving gifts?

474
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: No, because I'm I mean, I like, I like giving

475
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: things to people, but I feel pressure. I don't like shopping,

476
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh sure, like shopping for shoes, okay, And like contact lenses.

477
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: Where are you buy contact lenses? Which is I think

478
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: a Mormon company Contacts.

479
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: They're out of Utah. I had a friend who worked there.

480
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 3: And they're really nice. Okay when you have to deal

481
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: with them on the phone, they're like the nicest people.

482
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I had a friend who worked there,

483
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: and I feel like the big benefit of the job

484
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 2: is that would give you cereal.

485
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 3: Oh, which I haven't gotten cereal. Oh well, which that's

486
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: a good deal.

487
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: Actually that feels to me bare minimum, but it's great

488
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: turning the diet or some corn places.

489
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. But like I like getting stuff I like need, you.

490
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: Know, sure, things that like you aren't gonna be able

491
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 2: to leave the house without.

492
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: Or I'll go to like CVS and buy like sixty

493
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: dollars worth of what shit? What what in the world.

494
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 3: I'll go to like get contact solution and deodorant and

495
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 3: then I'll end up like buying like Crans and a

496
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 3: Palm Springs T shirt and a Palm Springs T shirt

497
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: and like well everything there is like four times is

498
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: the price it ordinarily should be because they're taking advantage

499
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: of sick people. Basically, it's like you're sick, but you

500
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: also need to buy your granddaughter a gift. So here

501
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: it is at five times the market value. I bought

502
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: face masks recently. Everything going on in the world.

503
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: Of course, and I just needed to relaxing them to

504
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 2: people that I, oh fate, like a yeah, like a

505
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: medical mass medical I thought you were. I was imagining

506
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: face mask, everybody, chill out, just feel good.

507
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 3: What if that was my defense against I guess the coronavirus,

508
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: just like a masquerade, feathery mass.

509
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: City bus with just a big mass.

510
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

511
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 2: So the podcast is I said no gifts and then sorry,

512
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: you walk up in the rain and you've got a gift. No,

513
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: I really I had to. I mean, I guess I'm

514
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: going to open Yeah, do you want it now? I'll

515
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 2: do it on air. Okay, cool, we'll do a live

516
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: So this is this great bag. Actually this felt very

517
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: you Where did this come from?

518
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: Uh? Target?

519
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: Target that's a nice bag. I had a recent gift

520
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: wrapping experience at Targeted. It absolutely sucked.

521
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: Gift wrapping is my hell. That's part of why I

522
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: don't like guests, right, I can't wrap a gift. One year,

523
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: I got my sister like a bath and body work

524
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: like set with like soaps and a sponge, and I

525
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: could it was like in like hexagonal that can be

526
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: wrapped like, so I made this. I was like twelve,

527
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: but I had her wrap it, which is she wrapped

528
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 3: her own gifts. That was the work I gave her

529
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: a little job. Yeah, it's probably the worst brother moment,

530
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: but well I feel proud of you.

531
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a flowery bag. It's a nice

532
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: like almost a wallpaper and a bow on it. Oh yeah,

533
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: the extra step.

534
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: I thought it went well. Actually the blue and then.

535
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 2: We've got tissue. This is dude. Oh look at this,

536
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: it's got like I just like.

537
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 3: I wanted to it. Yeah, a little crinkle, Oh yeah

538
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: that brings you back, right, I'm just feeding it. Yeah,

539
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

540
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: I think people like that. I mean I haven't got

541
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: any feedback on it, but of course everybody likes a

542
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: little crinkle.

543
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: Crinkle.

544
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: Now I'm just gonna feel before I look's feeling like

545
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 2: a texture that could almost be an alligator skin leather. Yes,

546
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: it's not wet, so it's not alive, but it is.

547
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: Uh maybe it was once alive. Yeah, maybe once alive.

548
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: This could very easily be pleather. There's like some sort

549
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: of I'm gonna pull it out. Okay, let's see there's

550
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: like a I feel like a buckle. This is incredible.

551
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: You have given me what appears to be a purse.

552
00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 2: You brought me like a leather purse. What has happened, Carrie?

553
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: What is this? This is incredible. This is the tackiest

554
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: bag I've ever seen.

555
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's very practical and it's probably ethical.

556
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: It's definitely not real. It's studded, it's got gold studs

557
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 2: all along it. And then I mean so yeah, it's

558
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: like a it's like a zipper on the You could

559
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: throw this over your Shoulderah.

560
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: I think I had to attach it. So I think

561
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: I hope that this is incredible.

562
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like a ten faux leather purse backpack.

563
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: It's sultry. Let's see how it looks. Oh, there's something

564
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: inside of it. You've given me a mug that just

565
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: says weirdo.

566
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: I was thinking maybe put a gun in it or

567
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: some kind.

568
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: Of If I had opened this bag and there was

569
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 2: a gun, I would have killed all three of us.

570
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: I would have shot you, and then I would have

571
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: pointed at Stephen and said, you know what's next, and

572
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: then I would have given my farewell address and that

573
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: would be the end of this podcast.

574
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 3: It was, you know, I thought that that might that

575
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: scenario felt plausible with us being together, so I thought

576
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: maybe I should just start just I just wanted you

577
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: to This isn't really it's more of like, what could

578
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: you put in it? Oh? Of course, So it's like

579
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: it was sort of like trying to show you how

580
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: much you can actually use it.

581
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: Oh, and this is like so you can take home

582
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: by the way without opening the bag.

583
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: But it says what this weirdo? Weirdo?

584
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: Of course it gives me. It's a little uh's I

585
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: take this to the office and everyone knows I've got

586
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: the edge, and then I'm, you know, theastic gal around town.

587
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: Something about me?

588
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: This weird If you took this to an office space

589
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: and they didn't realize who you were, they would every

590
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: member of the office would absolutely despise.

591
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: I want you to bring it to work, well, I will,

592
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: absolutely and I want you to hold it, kind of

593
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: put it. I want you to have a whole experience.

594
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: I'll have this extract around my back, make a big

595
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 2: deal in the kitchen, bring it out, and then.

596
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like giving gifts by like I

597
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: do like more than giving gifts, I like to create

598
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: an experience right for the recipient. So I wanted you

599
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: to feel like, oh like kind of a role play.

600
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: So like you walk in with this, you know, around

601
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: your shoulder, and then what better than to take out

602
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: a mug of coffee, a full mug of coffee.

603
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: It's been splashing around in my and then wherever I

604
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 2: go people can smell the coffee that's just been dried

605
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: up in my back.

606
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: Do you want to, like I mean, I I want

607
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: you to put it on. I'm going to try that.

608
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I've tried on a shirt on this podcast. I've

609
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: tried on a jacket. This is just one of many things.

610
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: Okay, good, Can I.

611
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: Lift the microphone up? We'll try to How should I.

612
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it first and over the shoulder. Yeah,

613
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: it feels good. I'm gonna put the actual I'm gonna

614
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: put this mugg back in so we know how feel

615
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: when I show up to work.

616
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, just just somewhere in La. You're in La.

617
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm in La. I'm walking down Rodeo heading towards tom Ford.

618
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: I get in unbuckle it.

619
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 3: Do you have your wallet on you or do you

620
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: have Oh I've got my phone?

621
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: Put that in there.

622
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

623
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: This could fit a bowling ball. You know.

624
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: It's deep.

625
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: I'm not putting my other bag in it. It has depth,

626
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 2: and it's absolutely I mean that basically fits.

627
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: It's very abyssle.

628
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: Then that doesn't fit, so I'm going to take that out.

629
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, but now I want to put it on

630
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: my back. Is that a thing I can do with this?

631
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: I think you can switch the strap? Oh I wanted you.

632
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: I put it there, but I figured you.

633
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: It's a deeply versatile bag.

634
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very verse.

635
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: It's total verse.

636
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes, oh look at that.

637
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 2: It's like I'm now selling it over my shoulder and

638
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: I look incredible. You don to the mics. I could

639
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: wear this for the rest of the podcast and be

640
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: totally fine.

641
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then.

642
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Just walk out.

643
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: I think it actually fits you.

644
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it fits me perfectly. It actually gives Now it

645
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: looks like I'm wearing a like a what is that

646
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: a quiver? This is my own little quiver.

647
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. You can put an animal in there.

648
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: You could put a little bird in there.

649
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think imagine a crow, a.

650
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: Crow flying or like half flying because it's it hasn't

651
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: had enough air, just flying to the floor.

652
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 3: I yeah, I just I saw it, and I just

653
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: I knew I had that knew its.

654
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: A zipper on the back. Yeah, that was my favorite part.

655
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: That's for your mints, your altys. Yeah, it's for your

656
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: al toys. I recently have not learned my lesson, but

657
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: I'll just throw my gum willy nilly into my bag.

658
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: It all comes out, gets unwrapped it and then my

659
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: phone is covered in gum.

660
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 3: So it's right here. It separates everything.

661
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that you put your perishables in the back

662
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: up front, you've just got a mug full of coffee

663
00:31:59,080 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: at all times.

664
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: Those kind of crackers that are there's like three of

665
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: them and they're in those plastic and they like peanut butter.

666
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about those weird little like is it

667
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 2: a handy? Yeah, d I haven't have one of those

668
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: in a long time.

669
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: It was a very like Little League.

670
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: Where they would come with the cheese. I liked that cheese,

671
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: except for my problem was once you were out of

672
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: the cracker, if you just eat the cheese fully nauseating.

673
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you've got to have that weird saltine cracker

674
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: of cheese. Yeah, it's like a bizarre little paste to

675
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: But that's easily going to go in there. This could

676
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: become my hiking bag.

677
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

678
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: I would love to be found dead.

679
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: Somewhere with this in the Angela's forest.

680
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: He didn't pack any water, but it did have gum

681
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: and a handy snack.

682
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: It's a very last scene bag.

683
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, at the base of a weird security footage

684
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: of me with this thrown over my back.

685
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Or they find your car parked at the base

686
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 3: of a mountain. There's there's like a coating of dust

687
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: over it, and it's unlocked because of course you wanted

688
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: it in people to know, And it's just in the front.

689
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: Seat and there's no id, nothing in it. It's just

690
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 2: covered in my fingerprints. Oh, I love this. Do you

691
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: carry a bag? I have a backpack okay, and I

692
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: actually sometimes use the Walmart the whole foods like recyclable.

693
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh sure, and what are you carrying in that gym clothes?

694
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: Right? Because I used to my mistake, I use my

695
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: backpack for jim suff okay, and like I.

696
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 2: Swim a little wet and mildewy or something, and I.

697
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: Tried to, you know, I would always lights all wipe

698
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: up the smell.

699
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: It's not going to do it.

700
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I use like recyclable bags for the gym sometimes,

701
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: which probably looks a little questionable, But who cares.

702
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: You're going to the gym. I always look like a

703
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: disaster at the gym, and I don't care. I'm working

704
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: myself for life outside the gym. Yeah, within it, I

705
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: can just be the idea of like getting ready for

706
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 2: the gym is insane to me.

707
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: Like putting on makeup, well, I can.

708
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: See myself putting on a full face of makeup before

709
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: doing working.

710
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: Out, but I could see you like darkening your eyebrows.

711
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: I would love to show up at the gym just

712
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 2: essentially kabuki makeup, just beautiful big cheeks, like a little doll.

713
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: I can see it, a bold lip lip.

714
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: I get crushed by the dumbbell and just struggling with

715
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: all this makeup on my face.

716
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: What do you are? You an active gimmer?

717
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: As of last like about a year ago, I started

718
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: going to this weird well, no, I'm not gonna say

719
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 2: it's weird, it's lovely. It's run by somebody named Dirk

720
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: and Chanel, husband wife team, and they run like a

721
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: small private gym that's like semi personal training. You go

722
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: once a week for half an hour. Well, most people

723
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: go two to three times a week, but I don't

724
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: have that in me. I'm going once a week and

725
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: they work you for a half an hour to the

726
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: point of dry heaving.

727
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: And it was like a half our turbo workout.

728
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: Right, It's just like pure weightlifting, and it's it truly

729
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: is hell. I was telling someone recently that, like about

730
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 2: three quarters of the way through the workout, every time,

731
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 2: if there was like a sniper laser on my head,

732
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: I would say, take him out. Yeah, just get rid

733
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 2: of me. I want to die.

734
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: That's that's means it's working. Yeah, I go to twenty

735
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 3: four hour and who and how is that?

736
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: How often are you working out?

737
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 3: Well? When I have a when I didn't have it,

738
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 3: when I didn't work for a year. I was going

739
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 3: pretty much every.

740
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: Day every day. What are you doing every day? I

741
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: don't understand what's happening there.

742
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: I know I did my job thing, looked for jobs,

743
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then I would just to go

744
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: like take care of my stress every other job. Why

745
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 3: was it? But I was a swimmer and oh okay,

746
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: like I feel like I'm but I would go probably

747
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: every day or if not, like every other day or

748
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 3: like you know, if it was like if I wasn't

749
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: that into it that week, I would go like four

750
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 3: or three or four times.

751
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: But bottom line, you were going a variety of days.

752
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: I was going like, but for a while, I was

753
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: like every day, and were you swimming?

754
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: Mostly? I did cardio, lifted and swam. Wow, that's incredible.

755
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it. Well, it's because

756
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 3: I had nothing else to do, and I was like,

757
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: I figure I might as well just like just good, yeah,

758
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: at least be healthy. But when I started this job,

759
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 3: I just finished it was a six month writing job.

760
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: I like didn't go ever, no, of course not. And

761
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: I would go and already find the time steam or

762
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: like just swim for a little maybe or go on

763
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: the Staremaster for ten minutes, right, But yeah, it's it's

764
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: very I'll either be really into it or I'll just

765
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: be like I have to watch the Real Housewives.

766
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I tried water aerobics for the first time. Really,

767
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: I went with I was back home in Utah and

768
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: I went and did water aerobics with my mom.

769
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: Wow.

770
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: It was incredible. It's water is the best. Oh, it's

771
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why you. I mean, it's almost impossible

772
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: to find water aerobics in LA. But uh, while I

773
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: was doing it, it was so great. I don't know

774
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: why we're not doing it more. I mean it was

775
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: essentially I mean it was literally me and then just

776
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: forty sixty plus women, like from my mom's age up

777
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: to like a like a ninety year old woman. But

778
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: I was having a terrific time.

779
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: That sounds and I'm not saying this like that actually

780
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: sounds great. It was.

781
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt like I got a workout and

782
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I put stress on my joints.

783
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: This sort of good company. Oh, excellent company.

784
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

785
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: And it was during the holidays, so they were playing

786
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: like dance remixes of Christmas carols during it, which was wild. Yeah, well,

787
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: this bag is incredible.

788
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 3: You could bring this to the workout.

789
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to take this to the workout.

790
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: Put my water bottle in. Yeah that I'm in a

791
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: full face of makeup. I've got this song over my shoulder.

792
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: It. I think it's really for any occasion.

793
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: This, I mean Christmas, day to night, data night, daya night,

794
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: this en. You combine this with jeans. You can do

795
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: it with a skirt. Oh, yeah, a gown, tuxedo, you're

796
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: going all jumpsuits jumpsuit?

797
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

798
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: Do you want a jumpsuit? No, okay, I don't want

799
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: a jumpsuit either. I've that's been a discussion on this podcast,

800
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: and I would like to own one at some point.

801
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: But I just feel like, where do I go and

802
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: what does it need to look like on my body?

803
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: I think you could rock one. I don't know.

804
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: It just feel like a move.

805
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: It's a statement, I think. But you've tweeted about wearing leotard.

806
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 3: Oh sure, I would like to see that with.

807
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: Me and a leotard headed to the gym with.

808
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: Tap shoes on. But if you did the workout in

809
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 3: tapsheese like this fully.

810
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: You just occasionally hear some clicking while I'm lifting lights.

811
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: That would be incredible.

812
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 3: You do a power lift, dumbbell and a pair of

813
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 3: tap shoes, fully dangerous.

814
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: I went to a tap dancing recital recently, really that

815
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: had a a sci fi story. It was maybe the

816
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: most insane live performance I've ever seen. It was out

817
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: in like I don't know, somewhere on the East Side,

818
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: and it's a friend is in this tap class and

819
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: the teacher puts on every year or so a tap

820
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: show that has a loose story has had some political elements,

821
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: like La had run out of rain. It was kind

822
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 2: of yes, but then there was also like he tried

823
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: to also put jokes into it. It was not a

824
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: good combination of anything but true. I'm gonna, i mean,

825
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: whether my friend remains in it or not. I'm going

826
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: to go to this once a year because it was

827
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: banana time. There were people in like chain mail tap dancing.

828
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: They went to like club Tapwater.

829
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 3: So like a drought, has.

830
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: A drought has descended on Los Angeles? Yes, yes, of course,

831
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: And I think there was some element that a little

832
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: who's that New York a writer that's so horrible that's

833
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: like always the Borrowitz Report. I had a little a

834
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: little bit of that sort of humor, you know, where

835
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 2: it was like Donald Trump the fiftieth is still president

836
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: or what I mean that aside, of course, this podcast

837
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: does not promote Donald Trump, but we also don't permit

838
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: promote Andy Barrowitz because his satire is who strikes Carrie's

839
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: walking out with his bag? I'm taking that bag He's

840
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: hurling through my windshield. Wow, that sounds kind of bold.

841
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It was a weird thing to see. You know,

842
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: within Los Angeles, most things you go see are like

843
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: kind of people performing at the top of their skill

844
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: level or whatever, and this is more just like a

845
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: bunch of people had gotten together at a local gym

846
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: to learn how to tap dance, and then the leader

847
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: decided to make it a sci fi story. Well, I

848
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: feel like we've gotten to we have gotten to the

849
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: part of the podcast where we're going to play a game. Okay,

850
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: I'm gonna actually get you a choice. All right, I'm

851
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: not going to tell you what either game is, but

852
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: I'll give you the title of the the gun you

853
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: promised earlier this is the gun I brought. No, I'm

854
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: going to tell you the title of each game. And

855
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: you get to pick okay, gift or a curse or

856
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: gift master, gift or a curse okay, and a number

857
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: between one and ten.

858
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: Six.

859
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: Okay. I'm going to calculate some things and when I return,

860
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: will play the game. But while I'm calculating, you can

861
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: promote something. You can promote yourself, you can recommend something

862
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: to do whatever you want with the random amount of

863
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: time you're about to be given.

864
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: Okay. I do a podcast called I'm a co host

865
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 3: of a podcast, Sex Unique Podcast with Lara Marie Shane Halls.

866
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: She's had it for years and I've joined recently as

867
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 3: a semi regular co host and we're going on a

868
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: live tour.

869
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: Carrie, I'm back. Great gift or a curse. I'm going

870
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: to name three things, okay, three anything. It can be

871
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: an object to personal whatever, and you have to tell

872
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: me if it's a gift or a curse and why

873
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: all right, and there are correct answers. So there's a

874
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: strong chance you can get zero out of three and

875
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: then you walk out. If you're shamed, great, but you

876
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: could also come away a big winner.

877
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: So it's based on what you think.

878
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 2: Based on what I know. Oh my objective truth. Okay,

879
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: so number one, Number one, I always have a hard time.

880
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: I find the things and then my eyes go I

881
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: basically go cross it and can't see what I'm looking at. Oh,

882
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: number one text reactions gift or a curse? These are

883
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: you know, the heart, the exclamation point, the question mark

884
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: that you can react to a text on an iPhone?

885
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 2: Does that? Do you know what that is?

886
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

887
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think.

888
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say? Gift? It's a that's a curve ball.

889
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like people would normally say curse,

890
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: but I think it's a gift.

891
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: Why do you think?

892
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: Because I initially thought this is hell and now I

893
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: like it because it's I like that it's weird and impersonal,

894
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: because it's like funny, and to me, it's funny whenever

895
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: someone likes something or I liked what it does. It's

896
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: chaotic and it's actually underrated. It is a gift.

897
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: It's a gift. I had this exact emotional journey with them.

898
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Initially I stayed away. I wouldn't do it. I felt

899
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: like another emoji something or other. I wasn't going to

900
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: do it, and then I was, you know, I don't

901
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: know what broke me. I think eventually I was just like,

902
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: I'll dip my toe in this water. We'll give this

903
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 2: like a heart, and now I'm fully on board. It's

904
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 2: like it's also just like a nice punctuation to a

905
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: conversation where it's like I'm ready for this to be over.

906
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: When I've liked something, it's like, I'm not real, I

907
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 2: don't need any more talk back from you. We're gonna

908
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: just I liked the last thing you said and we

909
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: can move on the haha. Usually I will I'll type

910
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: out a.

911
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: Ha ha. Yeah, I don't care for the haa. But

912
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: I like heart or.

913
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: I like it, dislike, dislike basically anything.

914
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: It's a nice conversation. It's like you're right, it's letting

915
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: both people know, Like I'm going to need a little

916
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: breather right now for this.

917
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I acknowledge that you're You've said something,

918
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 2: but that's all we have. The road has ended.

919
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

920
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I think I'm on board with it. I

921
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 2: like the question mark. I think I can do it

922
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: more like is a little scary, like is a like

923
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: for me? Is just that's truly like, Okay, I'm done talking. Yeah,

924
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: I don't want any more engagement from you. I appreciate

925
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: whatever you said to me, and now we're done.

926
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 3: That's a business that's like very business like, Like I

927
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: like it.

928
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: It's almost like a red read receipt. It's like saw it.

929
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: That's all that needs to happen. Maybe we need to

930
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: shift away from the heart because it's a like but

931
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: it looks like love. Maybe there's like somewhere in between. Yeah,

932
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: like hmmm, yeah, I wouldn't mind hmmm, just like, oh,

933
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: all right, do you like read receipts? No, I don't

934
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: think anyone does, but I occasionally do like them when

935
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm like in a panic moment, I just need to

936
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: know if somebody read the thing. Yeah, like like in

937
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: a business situation.

938
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I or like yeah, if you something sent

939
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 3: to them like a lank or you know, something like

940
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: an attachment or something, right, Yeah, I think that I remember.

941
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: It does bring you back to my days of BlackBerry.

942
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: Oh you never had a BlackBerry? Oh BBM was like

943
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 3: the first taste of like passive aggression on social media

944
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 3: and just like because you could see when someone read

945
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 3: what you wrote and they could leave it on read

946
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 3: and it would have like the r in the check market.

947
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: I couldn't deal with that, but it was it was powerful.

948
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: I sent an email yesterday apologizing to someone and have

949
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: not heard back. And I am now just living with

950
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: this growing fear and anxiety about what their reaction is.

951
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: And there's nothing worse than that, Like did they.

952
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: See the email? They taking a pause?

953
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: Are they taking a pause? Are they just bad at

954
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: getting back?

955
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: I had a friend once who was like, I was like,

956
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 3: you don't really respond to me ever, so I feel

957
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: like I don't know why I text you, Like I

958
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: was just I wasn't like shaming them. I was just

959
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: kind of like, it's more of just an observation, right,

960
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: And they were like, yeah, you know, I I do

961
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: read your messages and I take a moment to think

962
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: about it, and then I'm like okay, and then I

963
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: sort of forget.

964
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: Not a good formula for communication.

965
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: And I was just imagining them like going and then

966
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: like seeing something and walking towards it.

967
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 2: That I'm not on board with that at all. Okay,

968
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: you've gone one. We're moving on to the next thing.

969
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: Gift or a curse, whole grain mustard.

970
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: Curse. Why there's just something I'm a I like dijon

971
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 3: or yellow, and there's just something flemy about grain mustard. Okay,

972
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't trust it. Fully, I love mustard,

973
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: but grain feels a little bit curse to me.

974
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: Oh well, unfortunately, fully wrong, No whole grain mustard. And

975
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: this is a recent discovery for me. Fully a gift.

976
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: I think it's fantastic. It feels like a I don't

977
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 2: even know what I'm eating when I'm eating a whole

978
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 2: grain mustard. What is happening? Is that just a bunch

979
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 2: of extremely small seeds that I'm putting on food, But

980
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 2: it's bursting with flavor?

981
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 3: The unknown?

982
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: I like the unknown. And I had a brought worse

983
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: and I put some whole grain mustard on it and

984
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: I went wild. Okay, I went absolutely crazy.

985
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: So I.

986
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: Reconsider I'm boulder mustard. Yeah, Djon, I'm like, i feel

987
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: like I'm moving away from the dejon. To be honest

988
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: with you, I'm like, I'm always on a yellow mustard.

989
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 2: Of course I'll eat it honey mustard. I don't mind

990
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: a honey mustard. It's not my number one.

991
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Pick tenders into it.

992
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh, of course I haven't done that in a while

993
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: of course, But for me, the whole grain mustard is

994
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: a gift, and I think that we should have that.

995
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: The only thing is, I don't know what you're putting

996
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: it on other than a broadworst. Yeah, it's very it

997
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: is severe and Germanic. Yeah, I guess pretzels. Maybe dip

998
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: a pretzel in that.

999
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 3: But you already have like the salt, yeah, the little flakes,

1000
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: you know, things of salt. So it's to me crunchy

1001
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 3: on crunchy all.

1002
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 2: Right, Well, okay, I don't know that the whole grain

1003
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 2: mustard is crunchy, but maybe you've just had a bunch

1004
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: of bad experiences. Well, I don't care. We're moving on.

1005
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: You've gotten one, right, and you've gotten one. You've just

1006
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 2: missed the mark by a mile. This final one, you've

1007
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: got to tell me, and this is your chance. It

1008
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: at least not full humiliation, giftter a curse. Funfetti cake,

1009
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think for a moment of course, fun canny.

1010
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 2: Well you think I'll just let people know. Fun fetty

1011
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 2: cake is like a cake with colorful dots, sweet dots throughout,

1012
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: and then usually has a sweet frosting on the outside,

1013
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: and very photogenic. I would say you'll see it on

1014
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: various Instagrams, this sort of thing. Okay, I've reached it, Okay,

1015
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: gifter a curse.

1016
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 3: It's a curse. Why. There's just there's just something about

1017
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: it that I don't relate to or like when I

1018
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: eat it, it's like, it's just it's so sweet and

1019
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: I love like a simple frosting, a few sprink like

1020
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: specs of you know, there's just something about it that

1021
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 3: it's like it feels super unnatural, and I, yeah, I know,

1022
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm not a fan.

1023
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 2: Carrie Carrie, Carrie fun Fetti cake is an absolute curse.

1024
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 2: Right made I come back.

1025
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: I felt I could feel, I felt it that you agreed.

1026
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: It is the most upsetting hat.

1027
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 2: I had one sent to me for a birthday a

1028
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, and immediately I was like, the

1029
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: people who sent this to me do not know me

1030
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: at all.

1031
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 3: It is a betrayal. It's so cold, it's sterile, it's clinical.

1032
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: The sweetest thing in the world. It's I think it

1033
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: is a result I mean of Instagram culture and this

1034
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: sort of thing where it's like it's it looks fun

1035
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: on in photos and it's also like, yeah, that's got

1036
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: this annoying nostalgia element tied to it, but it brings

1037
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 2: there is zero depth, which just eating up.

1038
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 3: It's like home acs sweet.

1039
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: It does say just a bad cake.

1040
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, it does. It is so like

1041
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: it's like almost scientific.

1042
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean I think it did come from

1043
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: like I mean, I could be wrong here. I don't

1044
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: know my food science history, but it feels like it

1045
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: came in like that period of the early nineties when

1046
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: we were like making food as experiments rather than as

1047
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: food or something, and it fortunately disappeared for a while,

1048
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 2: or at least felt like it was being held at

1049
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: seven year old's birthday parties. But it is now like

1050
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: part of office culture. We got a fun fetty cake

1051
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I'm going to have to drink

1052
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: four cups of coffee with that to balance out the sweetness.

1053
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: And it feels like so sick. It feels like cold

1054
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 2: math cold.

1055
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: Looking at numbers when I see funfetti, I'm like looking at.

1056
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 2: Like you're not feeling you're looking.

1057
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 3: You know. And I worked at Coldstone Oh summer and

1058
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 3: think they have some kind of like cake battery.

1059
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I hate the cake batter ice cream. It's horrible.

1060
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 2: I mean Coldstone is a bad ice cream place. Take

1061
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 2: me to a basket and rob and take me anywhere.

1062
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: Just yeah, Tcby treats sure tea in the Country's Best.

1063
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 3: Coldstone was That was weird. That was a weird summer.

1064
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: Did they make you sing?

1065
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was. Also I was. It was in

1066
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: between junior and senior year, and my parents were like,

1067
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: I was going abroad senior year for the fall semester

1068
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: because I just wanted to get it in before I left,

1069
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: and they were like, if you're gonna go, you have

1070
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: to get a job. Like and so I worked at

1071
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: Coldstone and my superiors were all like teens.

1072
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they were. It was very younger than you.

1073
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Teen Like yeah, like I was twenty one. Oh wow,

1074
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: they were, Yeah, because seventeen sixteen and they were not.

1075
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 2: They did not approve of the way I did things.

1076
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't think I could deal with that.

1077
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: But I went an autopilot at the end and I

1078
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: was just really good at it. But in the beginning

1079
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: it was really hard. I got a milkshake return, but yeah,

1080
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,280
Speaker 3: just sitting and you just pick at all the little

1081
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 3: the fun you know, the funny ice cream y gotta

1082
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 3: have it I gotta have it.

1083
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: The sizing is inexcusable.

1084
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: There was a ston there was a peanut butter chocolate

1085
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: shape that was I gotta have it was two thousand calories.

1086
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: That actually feels low to me for some reason. I

1087
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: mean a full day's calorie. Yeah, I've been It's delicious.

1088
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 3: That was the one thing that.

1089
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: They gotta have it. In high school, one of my

1090
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 2: friend's brothers worked at cold Stone and stole probably five

1091
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: hundred of the punch cards. WHOA, And so for years

1092
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: I could just go in and use the punch cards

1093
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: to get free ice cream fully rubbed Countureman. But now

1094
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: have realized I don't like their ice cream, so it

1095
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: doesn't matter.

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00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: It's also like I remember one time this big family,

1097
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 3: because it was in the summer, these big families were

1098
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 3: coming at night, and this one family had like seven

1099
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: people with them in this party, and they were a

1100
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 3: ton of ice cream. It ended up being like eighty dollars.

1101
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: And the dad was like, you swindled me, or like

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00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: he was he thought like, and I was like, the

1103
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: price the prices are on the you're like fifteen dollars

1104
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: ice creams. It's not It's not me, it's insane.

1105
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean is a full curse. Let's move on.

1106
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Let's find a better cake. This cake it sucks sheet Yeah,

1107
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 2: grow up, read a book. Okay, so we've you've got

1108
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: two out of three.

1109
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: Great.

1110
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: Okay, final part of the podcast. We're going to try

1111
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 2: to help somebody. This is called I Said No Questions.

1112
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: People are writing into I Said No Gifts at gmail

1113
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: dot com. They're asking for help getting people in their

1114
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 2: lives gifts. They need to get other people gifts, and

1115
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: so let's give one a shot here. This is an

1116
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: interesting one. Highbridger. My fiance's stepfather is turning sixty and

1117
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: the only thing I know, he loves his beer and

1118
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: rock and froll. Okay, we want to get him something special,

1119
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: any ideas. Uh that's from Matthew and Houston and so uh,

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00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: fiance's stepfather sixty years old, loves beer, he loves.

1121
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 3: Rock and rolling. Texas.

1122
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 2: The picture, Yeah, it's probably from Texas unless he's a

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00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: somebody that mom met on a fling in you know,

1124
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: New Orleans or something. But he's rock and roll sixty

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00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: years old, which leaves him in like the I guess

1126
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: that's the early sixties.

1127
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 3: Was boo. He's Boomery on the younger Boomerang.

1128
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see. So I feel like maybe concert tickets. Yeah,

1129
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: I was thinking I was the Stones coming through town.

1130
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: I had a just like flash of the venue beers.

1131
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 3: Oh yes, this water bottle and they're like eighteens.

1132
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: Yes, so maybe no, you go ahead some kind of

1133
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: like craft beer tour. Oh, not a bad idea, but

1134
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: like a brewery. Yeah, preferably a brewery that has like

1135
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: a band playing. Oh wait, does this happen?

1136
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: Probably? I mean we're just like a rock and toime,

1137
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: you know, like some kind of like brewery and like

1138
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 3: a near like a Chipotle. I mean, I know what

1139
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: it looks like. It's like kind of like a half

1140
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 3: restaurant half brewery. Oh okay, sure if there's like rent

1141
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 3: that out. Oh that's not a bad I have like

1142
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 3: an a CDC man and cover band playing Carrie.

1143
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 2: That's way too much for the fiance's stepfather. That was

1144
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: That also threw me because it's like this person is

1145
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: so far removed from Yeah, but it sounds like he's

1146
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: in their life. Yeah, that's true, So he's definitely. Maybe

1147
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: he's a good guy.

1148
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: He's like one of those step dads. That's like cool

1149
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: and right, You're like, oh, I call him like like

1150
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: ka Huston calls Kurt Russell.

1151
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: Pa, Oh that's right, Like maybe like that kind of

1152
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: pictureing Kurt Russell.

1153
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he would I would see some kind of

1154
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 3: I mean Rentiana Brewery is a lot. I'm not going

1155
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 3: to go that far. Actually, I'm going to take it

1156
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 3: back because.

1157
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: That's like no, that's almost like bar mitzvah or something.

1158
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 3: Just just have him like go to like a have

1159
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: a people meet, have like a section sequestered at like

1160
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 3: a fun like outdoor outdoorsy bar. Okay, cover man plane.

1161
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: You are throwing people events.

1162
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the caterer and yeah, I think, okay, well,

1163
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: I think those are good ideas. I mean, once we

1164
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: got to Kurt Russell, I thought, why not get him

1165
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 2: an air fryer so he can fry up some wings.

1166
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: He's sixty, he's worried about his heart. I feel like

1167
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: those are a little more health conscious. And that seems

1168
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 2: like it's like right at the crossroads of beer and

1169
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: rock and roll. You want to fry things.

1170
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, or like teach him how to or like a

1171
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: guide to how to make beer.

1172
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, that's a that's something you do once you're retired.

1173
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: I imagine in your bathtub.

1174
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 3: Of course, he's like a garage batht for some reason,

1175
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: Like it's like a little private.

1176
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: Russell is back there brewing up his own personal broom

1177
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: for the event, carries throwing.

1178
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm am I going to sincere with this.

1179
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely not I want. I'm trying to have people I.

1180
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: Like a live you know, like iused to go to

1181
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: Atlantic City and had these peer bars and like Bruce

1182
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: Springsteen cover bands would play and you'd be like, yes.

1183
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: On Jovi, write a song. I feel like looking your

1184
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: fiance's stepfather in the eyes and playing a song a

1185
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: tender balance. If nothing else, it will change the dynamic

1186
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 2: in a huge memorable way.

1187
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: He's having anxiety or is it a man, right, Matthew

1188
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: Matthews having anxiety about like he really cares about stepfather.

1189
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: That's that's like, you're right, It is like very because

1190
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 3: it's if it was you being like I have to

1191
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: get my stepdad something. I can see that. But like

1192
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: your fiance stepdad, Like you're really.

1193
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 2: Lay emotion and pressure there. That's kind of unprecedented for

1194
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: this podcast. Wild yeah, I mean, and then you're reaching

1195
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: out to a stranger who hosts a podcast, so for help.

1196
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: So again, this is a complicated situation, and I feel

1197
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: like it's going to end in some level of tears.

1198
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: Any when you said eye contact, any moment, that just

1199
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: guarantees at one point in the night, he's going to

1200
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: look across the crowded room at his fiance stepdad, and

1201
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: they're just going to have this like just like a tender,

1202
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: meaningful moment, hetero male moment of just like he did

1203
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 3: good kid, well, like that kind of thing.

1204
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: For all we know, mommy's dead, so maybe stepfather is

1205
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 2: the only person in their lives.

1206
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: So he suffered. He came in when his fiance was

1207
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 3: about ten.

1208
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: He's probably that feels like that's when stepdad steps in.

1209
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 3: And then the biological mom passed.

1210
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: She probably died or she's been gone for probably ten

1211
00:59:58,760 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: to twenty years or.

1212
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: A divorce, but they still because she was there, he

1213
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: was the stepdad was there raising the kids, or just

1214
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: single fiance as an only child. She her dad took

1215
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 3: off years before. So like he came in and really

1216
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 3: swooped in and became filled that void. But then they

1217
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: just split up. But he was like, I still want

1218
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 3: to have a relationship with you, so like once a

1219
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: week they'd go to get dinner, meet up, and she

1220
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: was like, you know, you really have been the only

1221
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: father figure in my life. So like that could also be.

1222
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: I love it. So like we're gonna have to consider

1223
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: maybe the ex wife.

1224
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 2: The ex wife I also, I mean that just brings

1225
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: up one thing. Maybe we introduce stepfather to father. Maybe

1226
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: that's the gift. It's a son in law stepfather and

1227
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: father ski trip. I think that that's the gift. I

1228
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: think I've landed on it.

1229
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 3: I think that might be. And then drinking at those

1230
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 3: like outdoor, right, you're a a or what have you?

1231
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 3: I was at around deck chair.

1232
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,959
Speaker 2: Yes, no, you all have your brats and whole grain

1233
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: mustard and what do you do every night?

1234
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: Do you like sitting hot tub together?

1235
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: But you get to know each other? Yeah, of course,

1236
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: and eventually you return and you've mended this family in

1237
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: a way that you I mean, is the ultimate gift

1238
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: for fiance stepfather and father? Or you're really going to

1239
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 2: kind of force the mom out of the picture at

1240
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: this point really fast.

1241
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 3: I'll wrap up really quickly. But what if what if

1242
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 3: the girl the fiance's dad is actually a famous rock

1243
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: and roll singer or yeah, or like a in the area,

1244
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: like a big rock person. Okay, sure he plays malls,

1245
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: yeah or or something. And the stepdad is enamored with

1246
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 3: the ex husband.

1247
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, he's just like it has like a guy

1248
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: crush on her right right, wants some kind of validation

1249
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: from this person he looks up to.

1250
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 3: So maybe get the ex husband to come in with

1251
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 3: his band and play at the brewery.

1252
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: Ex husband writes a song for step father. We're just

1253
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: playing one of his bigger known hits. Yeah, I want

1254
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: to rock and roll all night? Is that what that's

1255
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 2: on you up, Jeane? If you're listening, Yeah, A gift

1256
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: is coming. Well I think we I mean we we

1257
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 2: nailed that. There's a variety of ways. If you don't

1258
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: if there's not something there for your stepfather, then maybe

1259
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 2: don't get him anything. Yeah, I don't know. Don't ask

1260
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: for help if you can't take it. Yeah, exactly, Carrie.

1261
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 2: It's been an absolute delight.

1262
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 3: This is amazing.

1263
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm walking away from this podcast with a beautiful friend,

1264
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 2: a friend. If nothing else, this is going to be

1265
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: a friend. It's going to be slung over my back.

1266
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: I'm so happy I can imagine you like on the

1267
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 3: streets of Silver Lake.

1268
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: Yes, just going about my business. This is just full

1269
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 2: of files and coffee. Well, thank you for being here,

1270
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: so awesome, wonderful, and I hope everyone had a nice time.

1271
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna move on with our lives great. I said,

1272
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 2: no gifts. That's an exactly right production. It's engineered by

1273
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is by

1274
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: Miracle Worker Amy Mann. You can follow the show on

1275
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter. At I said no gifts, And if

1276
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: you have a question or need help getting a gift

1277
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: for someone in your life, email me at I said

1278
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 2: no gifts at gmail dot com. Listen and subscribe on

1279
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me. And why

1280
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: not leave a review while you're at it?

1281
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: Hell, I invit? Did you hear Gonta mad myself perfectly clear?

1282
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to

1283
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: me empty. And I said, no guests, your own presences, presents,

1284
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you

1285
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: dare to surbey me? Became within