Speaker 1: It's nine O Genegen with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.
Speaker 2: Guys, this episode's loser takes all. But I feel like
Speaker 2: we're all winners here.
Speaker 3: There's no losers in this in this podcast. No no
Speaker 3: losers listening to it either?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 2: There's no crying in baseball in podcasts.
Speaker 1: Hi you guys?
Speaker 5: Amy liked it? Sign of approval.
Speaker 2: It's fire.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 2: It's good. It's a wild mess mess oh, in a
Speaker 2: good way.
Speaker 5: In an amazing way. Wait, Jenny before, because Tory wasn't
Speaker 5: here last week? Do you know what a coxwin is? Tory?
Speaker 2: Hmm, I'm gonna go Wait Jen wants to hear this
Speaker 2: answer so bad? Go ahead, please, I'm sorry. It's called
Speaker 2: a cox.
Speaker 5: Do you know what a coxin is?
Speaker 1: A cox Son Coxen? We didn't know what a coxin was?
Speaker 5: Well no, no, not we, not we one of us knew?
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, Coxon the only one hair not a loser?
Speaker 2: About an idiot? Oh tell me what is it? No?
Speaker 5: Wait, first, you have no idea what a coxin is?
Speaker 1: Why would she?
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of people? Wait?
Speaker 2: What is going on here?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 1: You just said you feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: know what a coxin is? Okay, let's take.
Speaker 5: I feel like we need a poll.
Speaker 2: Wait, Jen, that is not a word I've ever heard of.
Speaker 2: No me though, Amy, you know you know things, You're.
Speaker 1: She knows college things.
Speaker 5: This is like you know college things. I really do
Speaker 5: want to do a poll that asks before these two
Speaker 5: episodes of nine O two one, OMG, who knew what
Speaker 5: a coxin was?
Speaker 1: Raise your hand?
Speaker 5: Everybody?
Speaker 2: Come on. First of all, you're not even saying it right.
Speaker 5: It's Coxwayne Exnically, I think it is Coxswayne, but I've
Speaker 5: always heard it as.
Speaker 2: Oh that that was no fair you guys, do you
Speaker 2: know what it is? It's like Courtney Cox and Duayne
Speaker 2: the Wayne Johnson had a baby.
Speaker 5: All got it?
Speaker 2: You know, I got it, nailed it Cox.
Speaker 1: That's all you got from Swayne is Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's a I'm.
Speaker 2: Trying to think fast. It's really uh, I'm one of
Speaker 2: It's like swagger. Is it is that right? Like you've
Speaker 2: got like Cox Swayne, you got sweat? Nope, Okay, just
Speaker 2: tell her what it is.
Speaker 5: Claire is the Coxon. It's not Cox Swayne.
Speaker 1: By the way, It's like Coxin it's coxswayn So Claire.
Speaker 5: You know how she had that headset and she's like
Speaker 5: roll left, roll right right.
Speaker 2: Like the yell leader. But for rowing, Yes, you.
Speaker 1: Correct, it's a guy who steers the boat or girl.
Speaker 1: In this case, the girl usually.
Speaker 5: Are quite small compared to the big hunky row because
Speaker 5: they don't want to act. They don't want the because
Speaker 5: the Coxon is not rowing right, so they don't want
Speaker 5: that person to add weight to the boat.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my question for you guys. Did anyone look
Speaker 2: up the origin of this word and why it's named
Speaker 2: That was the original rowers last name cox.
Speaker 5: Way to come through with the smarts there girl.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm just curious why they would name it this,
Speaker 2: So there must be I.
Speaker 5: Am going to find that out and also why you're
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 1: Could you get the proper pronunciation?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I don't know that I can get that
Speaker 5: because I'm typing it. But in rowing, the cox or
Speaker 5: Coxwin is a vital role, acting as a coach, leader
Speaker 5: and strategist in the boat. They steer the boat, call
Speaker 5: out commands. It comes from the word cock meaning small boat.
Speaker 1: Wait, small boat.
Speaker 5: In the word cock, it literally says cock see okay,
Speaker 5: and swain meaning servant, so that person sort of serving
Speaker 5: the boat.
Speaker 1: Maybe first recorded use of goo was in the fifteenth century.
Speaker 1: So it's the cocks boat, the guy in charge, the
Speaker 1: big dude and his swan swains what a swin whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say. That's the guy who drove the
Speaker 1: boat for him because he doesn't know how to do it.
Speaker 2: It's little peepee syndrome. What do they call that when
Speaker 2: a guy because you said it's usually a small man.
Speaker 3: Little little penis syndrome. Yeah, it's the little dude who
Speaker 3: steers the boat.
Speaker 2: What a guy say when they're like, oh, the guy
Speaker 2: that drives like the fast cars, he has a tiny
Speaker 2: dick at it. Yep, that's it. I don't know, this is.
Speaker 5: Getting weird anyway, Back to any of who to the show, Back.
Speaker 1: To actually show we're talking about the next episode.
Speaker 3: It's called Loser Takes All. It aired in November thirteenth,
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety six. I gotta get this six synopsis.
Speaker 2: Valerie's extortion is finally exposed, leaving her penniless and Kenny less.
Speaker 2: Steve reaps what he rose, David shops till he drops,
Speaker 2: Donna is disturbed. And eight six seven five three, Oh my,
Speaker 2: how did that go? Mark Reese is a creepy caller. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's such a creepy caller.
Speaker 3: Directed by Chris Hibbler, written by John Eisendrad.
Speaker 5: Why did Mark do the weird calling thing?
Speaker 2: That was so charming? Wasn't that? That wasn't charming?
Speaker 5: Weird? It was weird?
Speaker 2: Was so weird?
Speaker 5: It was trying.
Speaker 1: He was trying to be Why am I defending him?
Speaker 1: He was trying to be why why?
Speaker 2: Why? Starting now? I don't know. It kind of falls
Speaker 2: in line with the books he gave you about himself.
Speaker 1: Weird, just as weird.
Speaker 5: Like if you hear me crank call you and ring twice,
Speaker 5: I'm was it.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking it was like one time I'm thinking about you,
Speaker 3: two times I wish I was with you, and three
Speaker 3: time means I don't check her own well, I want
Speaker 3: to be First of.
Speaker 5: All, you're never gonna get three times, because who can't
Speaker 5: make it to the in the nineteen nineties, who couldn't
Speaker 5: make it to the phone in two rings?
Speaker 1: I know what's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: But she had to stop and wait like she waited
Speaker 3: it out to get the message. Now because she knows
Speaker 3: like the code.
Speaker 5: Do you think Kelly was into it? Or Kelly was
Speaker 5: like this guy's weird.
Speaker 2: I think Kelly has PTSD. Sorry, jumped in there. She's
Speaker 2: been through a lot, and I feel like, don't mess
Speaker 2: with her. She's just like going through it, like it's
Speaker 2: just okay, I'm here, all right, present, you know.
Speaker 5: So true. She's like, I.
Speaker 1: Really am not ready for a relationship. I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep saying that nobody's listening.
Speaker 5: Was this episode where they have the dinner? Uh huh yeah, oh,
Speaker 5: the dinner. The dinner was uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: The couscous the African couscousse was wasn't it African?
Speaker 2: Casa Blanca?
Speaker 5: From Casa Blanca? He was ahead of his time with
Speaker 5: the couscous because I feel like Couscus didn't really get
Speaker 5: it twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: It hadn't had its moment in the sun.
Speaker 5: It's like, whoa. It's like Brussels sprouts. Remember when they
Speaker 5: were gross? And now everyone's like Brussels sprouts. Yes, please?
Speaker 1: And I don't say that, don't I say keep those
Speaker 1: things away from me.
Speaker 5: They give me a diye to get a little tummy from.
Speaker 2: I actually like them. The one vegetable like you do.
Speaker 5: If they're like done by Cats Sudia, where they basically
Speaker 5: are like salt and.
Speaker 2: Like Bride, would be fine of anyone. Well, I like
Speaker 2: them with balls and bacon, but just the way you do.
Speaker 1: We're talking, let's just talk about this storyline. Let's get
Speaker 1: into this one with a weird.
Speaker 5: Full not happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's like you.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all we have to say about it.
Speaker 2: Really is that he's weird, and.
Speaker 5: Bless him because he's a really nice guy. Now, I
Speaker 5: really liked your interview with him, but this is not happening,
Speaker 5: like it is not there is nothing there. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 5: it's not good.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's because I know and
Speaker 2: I'm watching for it now. But the kiss, it's just.
Speaker 1: There's it's zero. There's the zero, the meter moves zero.
Speaker 2: And it's not you, Jen. I'm just like this, both
Speaker 2: of them. On his behalf as an actor, like men,
Speaker 2: I feel like he's kind of aggressive with Kelly, like
Speaker 2: he's pushing this relationship, but then he has an opportunity
Speaker 2: to kiss her and it's like it's like a G
Speaker 2: rated film where they barely like like, well, try to
Speaker 2: kiss her.
Speaker 1: Okay, do something made me uncomfortable?
Speaker 2: Amy, true, the.
Speaker 5: Dinner was rough. I was learning watching it going.
Speaker 1: I mean we've all had dinners like that, the prospective
Speaker 1: romance guy person partner. But yeah, you know by the
Speaker 1: end of that dinner, like, yeah, I got nothing.
Speaker 5: You know, by the end of that dinner the writers were.
Speaker 1: Like, we got to do something so so good?
Speaker 2: Do you think they knew at this point?
Speaker 3: Honestly as a viewer, as the person watching it, I
Speaker 3: there are glimpses that there are little moments of sparkle
Speaker 3: coming out of his eye that I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 5: Bring that more. That bakery.
Speaker 2: Not enough and you know what, And I really like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to like say Dalton because he's playing
Speaker 2: character Mark. I like the pepinist step when he's with
Speaker 2: Brandon and Tracy, Like, I.
Speaker 5: Like, all that's interesting, Tory, that's really interesting. Like if
Speaker 5: his scenes were better with them, which they do, have
Speaker 5: a little bit more life, Yeah, I mean, not to
Speaker 5: be weird, maybe he was like intimidated, Like maybe.
Speaker 1: He felt nervous. Are you about to blame it on me?
Speaker 1: He felt so Nervi's around.
Speaker 5: You maybe though, because you're right, Torri that the scene.
Speaker 5: Although I don't I find him random, he does have
Speaker 5: a bit more energy and life in the scenes in
Speaker 5: the news room.
Speaker 3: I think it's because he's got Brandon there. He's got
Speaker 3: that like guy thing, the banter growthing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when he's a guy that had worked so
Speaker 2: much up until this point, I was just surprised that,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not him playing himself, he's playing a character.
Speaker 2: He feels like he lacks confidence.
Speaker 5: Give a random example that just popped into my head.
Speaker 5: Sometimes even a good actor isn't right in a certain part.
Speaker 5: It makes me think of Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly.
Speaker 5: Do you guys know about that.
Speaker 2: Eric Stoltz is a great actor, a great a wonderful math.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Tory. That's what I was just about to say.
Speaker 5: He was cast as Marty McFly, And if you go
Speaker 5: on you Tube, you can find video of the they
Speaker 5: shot with him, Like they started filming the movie with
Speaker 5: him and they had to like realize, like this is
Speaker 5: not something's not right. It happens and he was let
Speaker 5: go and replaced by Michael J. Fox. I won't get
Speaker 5: into the whole back to the Future lore, but and
Speaker 5: you do see, yeah, like there's a whole thing because
Speaker 5: they they like the lore of back. They wanted Michael J. Fox,
Speaker 5: but he couldn't do it because a family ties. Blah
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah. Eric Stoltz was playing it too
Speaker 5: dramatic or serious, whereas they wanted it to be funny,
Speaker 5: which and maybe that's what's happening here. He's a good actor,
Speaker 5: but it's just he's not right in this part with
Speaker 5: Kelly because he's playing it to.
Speaker 6: Murderer on board and had empathy and I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is so great for him, and like and then
Speaker 6: he's playing it so bump bump murderer.
Speaker 5: Playing it creepy or something.
Speaker 2: I don't get Murderer.
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't get I didn't even.
Speaker 1: Get murderer then.
Speaker 2: So I can't agree with you on that.
Speaker 1: But you're right, he's just not right in this role
Speaker 1: as the love interests opposite Kelli Taylor, which makes.
Speaker 2: A lot of sense because my dad had cast him
Speaker 2: in so many things. He probably was like, no brainer,
Speaker 2: put him here, and it just wasn't the right role
Speaker 2: for him or character understood, and like he could have
Speaker 2: played who's the news editor in high school like the
Speaker 2: or in college Josh, oh he died, but the Coxswain
Speaker 2: he would be a.
Speaker 5: Great Yeah, keep right that guy because that guy never
Speaker 5: had a love interest, right, I see what you're saying, Tori.
Speaker 5: He could have sort of been a you know, a
Speaker 5: Month's character type, like he came in for bits and Bob.
Speaker 5: But it's just not something he.
Speaker 1: Has to play serious, right, He's not like a maybe
Speaker 1: wasn't coomfortable playing like that romantic lead guy.
Speaker 5: At dinner, I was like, this, when's this kind of.
Speaker 2: Like bits of like Casablanca and I grew up here.
Speaker 2: It's hard. Oh my god, it was hard to kiss
Speaker 2: a woman in high school with a veil.
Speaker 5: I was like, and isn't there like a weird joke?
Speaker 5: I think this is where you like open up to
Speaker 5: him about your past about her and he says something
Speaker 5: uncomfortable and I just was like, oh, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Used to have an addiction to ice cream in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night or something. I was like, that's
Speaker 1: not really the same pal, but okay.
Speaker 2: You know what I kind of wanted from him there, like, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, he's like, what were you an axe murderer?
Speaker 2: And I was just thinking of Mike Myers and I'm
Speaker 2: married an axe murderer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and yes, of course it was so.
Speaker 2: But she's like, no, I had a dark problem. I
Speaker 2: thought I said I had a drug problem. Did you
Speaker 2: say drug problem? I thought you said a drug I
Speaker 2: said a drug? Interesting and I heard it dark and
Speaker 2: I was like, that wasn't it wasn't a dark time period. Okay,
Speaker 2: my bad. But then when I thought he was going
Speaker 2: to confess like, you know what, I Hey, I'm just
Speaker 2: like a normal guy going in my twenties, like I've
Speaker 2: dabbled in drugs. And I was like, okay, they're gonna
Speaker 2: line on this, and he's like, yeah, scream sandwiches free
Speaker 2: and my dead dog buried in there. Like what his
Speaker 2: reaction to it was?
Speaker 5: What lacked? Like the connection? Right, So if you're dating
Speaker 5: this girl and there they're liking each other, his reaction
Speaker 5: would be like more connected.
Speaker 3: Okay, So you're what if you're in the scene with him, right,
Speaker 3: and you're sitting there as the actress and you're waiting
Speaker 3: for or you're sitting there as the character and you're
Speaker 3: waiting for, like, how's he going to react when I
Speaker 3: see this? You're thinking, Oh, he's trying to, you know,
Speaker 3: make a joke, be like sweet, maybe also a little
Speaker 3: belittling if you're the character a little bit like you
Speaker 3: don't really you're not picking up what I'm putting down.
Speaker 3: So I feel like Kelly is confused at the end
Speaker 3: of that scene, like you.
Speaker 1: I wanted her, and I feel like the director probably
Speaker 1: wanted her and the producers probably wanted her to be
Speaker 1: like looking at him like wow, what a guy.
Speaker 2: But wanted her Akau.
Speaker 3: But I well, I don't think I could muster it
Speaker 3: up because it just didn't feel it because.
Speaker 5: It wasn't there. Some of it's the problem on the page, right,
Speaker 5: because why did they write a writing right?
Speaker 1: They tried, they tried to make him. So yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 2: Say though, Jen, and I know it's hard for you
Speaker 2: to watch because you're in it, But for me watching
Speaker 2: it as just a viewer, I thought Kelly did really
Speaker 2: great Akau, considering that it is when you are not
Speaker 2: getting something back from an actor and you're playing a
Speaker 2: scene as was to be romantic and funny and banter
Speaker 2: and just you're supposed to feel all those butterflies that
Speaker 2: you would feel and a dinner scene on a date
Speaker 2: in real life and excited and you're not getting it.
Speaker 2: It's really challenging and sometimes you push too much because
Speaker 2: you want it so bad. And I thought you did
Speaker 2: a really great job because I know that you didn't
Speaker 2: have chemistry with them, but I could even see you
Speaker 2: through that, and I felt like Kelly did. He didn't
Speaker 2: have any with Kelly, but well, thanks, I guess yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I don't know. I tried.
Speaker 1: I did my best. I did my job.
Speaker 5: I think he sort of acknowledged it to in the
Speaker 5: interview because what it lacked he was going to having emotion, right,
Speaker 5: because he didn't like if someone tells you that you're
Speaker 5: dating they have this dark secret and they open up
Speaker 5: to you, you would physically like lean in, You might
Speaker 5: take their hand and be like it's okay, Like I
Speaker 5: like you anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the going part with him, it was just
Speaker 1: tough for him at that time.
Speaker 2: He's disclosed, right, his personal life was in a dark
Speaker 2: place then, So yeah, maybe he was so shut off
Speaker 2: he couldn't even access the ability to pretend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it wasn't you. It definitely isn't good. No,
Speaker 5: it isn't good.
Speaker 1: It's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3: I feel like you know whatever, But that's that storyline,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't go anywhere. It kind of just it's
Speaker 3: slowly creeping towards like they're getting into each other and
Speaker 3: she's getting a little more uncomfortable with his style of communication.
Speaker 5: I e.
Speaker 1: The phone call hang up.
Speaker 5: And she kind of smiles at it, but I was like,
Speaker 5: a weirdo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like still she's like, I got one.
Speaker 2: Toe in and I'm trying real hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It also could have been semi a conscious choice, because
Speaker 2: we don't want the audience to be like, we really
Speaker 2: love Kelly and Mark together, right, We want to be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's good looking, we like them together. Okay, well, we
Speaker 2: want to see where this is going, the old creepy,
Speaker 2: weird stuff. So you're like, wait, is this happening? Is
Speaker 2: that happening? You're confused, But then ultimately you don't want
Speaker 2: her to fall in love with him because he wanted
Speaker 2: her and branded but he wanted that.
Speaker 1: Nope, let's talk about Stephen Claire.
Speaker 5: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the coxwing and Dick.
Speaker 2: You said you didn't want to talk about that anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the storyline and the character young lady.
Speaker 2: Uh huh with you with you? I like Dick more
Speaker 2: in this episode.
Speaker 1: Wait, you like Dick in this episode?
Speaker 2: I thought it was a jackass.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just flexing its too hard. Unlock knows, Oh
Speaker 5: my gosh, and Steve joke about it.
Speaker 2: Steve, that was probably the only reason that he had that.
Speaker 2: I just think you like him at all. I don't
Speaker 2: like the character, but I like physically even wasn't into
Speaker 2: like them anything. So, yes, he's a jackass in this episode,
Speaker 2: but I'm enjoying watching it play out.
Speaker 5: It's also so a weird how suddenly she's completely with Dick.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so nice Claire. She would never be Dick.
Speaker 1: They're coupled up. She likes Dick, Amy, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you. You need to grow up.
Speaker 5: Do you think it's intentional?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 5: Did they name that guy Dick on purpose?
Speaker 2: Let's play a fun game while you're listening to this
Speaker 2: episode every time, make sure you download it and give
Speaker 2: us five stars first, every time we say d I
Speaker 2: c k ak Dick uh your choice. You can take
Speaker 2: a shot of coffee, take a shot of water, take.
Speaker 1: A allow yourself to laugh at it. I feel really
Speaker 1: stupid and guilty laughing at it, but it makes me laugh.
Speaker 2: Wait, Amy, you you know there was the thing back
Speaker 2: in the day that we would hear that in college.
Speaker 2: People would be like had a thing for each one
Speaker 2: of us, and they'd be like a party drinking a
Speaker 2: drinking game. So anytime, like for me, it was like
Speaker 2: anytime Donna wears a belly shirt, take.
Speaker 1: It shot, anytime Kelly cries a drink a beer.
Speaker 5: It was such a thing we watched in college.
Speaker 2: But you didn't You didn't have drink.
Speaker 5: I didn't do anything because we were in our sorority.
Speaker 5: We would all squash into that room. I mean we
Speaker 5: had twenty five people squashed into the tiniest little TV room,
Speaker 5: like the biggest this room. I didn't on couch, so
Speaker 5: we were more like popcorn or like eating anytime, I
Speaker 5: mean like.
Speaker 2: Trisk it got it true?
Speaker 5: What would it be for?
Speaker 2: Like, like what about Valerie? What was it every time
Speaker 2: she's conniving? Right?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, oh man, I've got I'm like I have.
Speaker 3: We can't talk about val yet. We're gonna talk about Claire. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're saving the best for last.
Speaker 1: Yes, So Steve prepares his cag Brothers for this race
Speaker 1: against Dick and his team, and.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, Steve starts to look attractive again
Speaker 3: instead of like a frat guy trying to prove something.
Speaker 5: Lost the plot a little bit. Who won that race?
Speaker 1: The other guys did?
Speaker 2: Dick one? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: Claire Dick is the winner.
Speaker 5: Dick for the win.
Speaker 2: Yay Dick.
Speaker 1: That's when we were shouting.
Speaker 5: Team Dick though, like I don't know, like I get it.
Speaker 5: They're like, let's give let's give Steve and Claire a problem,
Speaker 5: and let's bring this other guy in. And it brought
Speaker 5: them back together.
Speaker 3: Because he really, he really put his his jealousy and
Speaker 3: his whatever he was dealing with, his.
Speaker 1: Macho self aside and he just put all he put
Speaker 1: his Dick aside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is ego And I did it, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what? And the music I was like, wait, it
Speaker 2: was like, Jen, you want to know. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but Amy will know. What was the famous rowing movie?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know, because George Clooney did one just
Speaker 5: the other day, but that was recent, so there was
Speaker 5: a roaging movie back in the day. Are you thinking
Speaker 5: like Dead Poets Society or one of those type of
Speaker 5: movies where they wrote it like a private school.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 5: Perhaps I can't think of a rowing movie other than
Speaker 5: the George Clooney one that just came talking about.
Speaker 1: I would watch that. I would watch a rowing movie.
Speaker 5: Really, I'm looking it up rowing movies. No, it might,
Speaker 5: but I could see it in Poet Society like that
Speaker 5: type of thing. Definitely. The Boys in the Boat was
Speaker 5: the one that, uh, George Clooney just did, which is
Speaker 5: all about.
Speaker 2: It was literally Oxford Blues, Oxford Blues.
Speaker 5: Yes, was it Oxford Blues?
Speaker 2: Rob Low?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that feels like that had a rowing Yeah. Wasn't
Speaker 5: he in the Oxford Blues?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: I never saw Oxford Blues, but it was sort of
Speaker 5: like it talked about when I was like in high school.
Speaker 2: Did you guys want them to?
Speaker 7: Did you?
Speaker 1: I wanted Steve to say, hey, don't throw her in
Speaker 1: that dirty water?
Speaker 5: Oh my god. By the way, a question about that.
Speaker 5: It obviously was her in the water. Was it her
Speaker 5: being thrown?
Speaker 1: Say so, yeah, I talk is that stunt double or
Speaker 1: although don't like, oh no, be careful, she's almost about
Speaker 1: to touch the ground.
Speaker 2: Don't be care I was.
Speaker 5: And then she came up looking so good, she's cute.
Speaker 5: She didn't can't help. Yeah, she didn't lie.
Speaker 2: It was very wild things how she came out of
Speaker 2: the water.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was right. Yeah, like it was like a
Speaker 5: first trap. She's like, but I thought going in it
Speaker 5: looked like maybe it was a dummy. Seemed dangerous to
Speaker 5: like throw her in the real her.
Speaker 1: And also we know how filthy that water is there
Speaker 1: in that dog oho, and you.
Speaker 5: Got to take that in one shot, right, They're not
Speaker 5: going to dry her all off, right and do it again.
Speaker 5: Seems like that's like you got one take here. That's
Speaker 5: why I don't think it was her being told.
Speaker 2: Maybe they did it with sentible and then once with her,
Speaker 2: or it looked.
Speaker 5: Like a dummy, like a fanny person to stop it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just a giant doll. Didn't seem like clear.
Speaker 1: And eventually she goes over to his house at night,
Speaker 1: and she says she never wants to talk about Dick again.
Speaker 5: He never wants Dick again.
Speaker 1: Nope, right, and Steve says, I'm your man.
Speaker 3: I was happy, though, and I also was happy that
Speaker 3: the directors gave or director whatever gave that scene enough
Speaker 3: time to breathe at the end to like see them
Speaker 3: have a little bit more of a connection because usually
Speaker 3: you just cut right out.
Speaker 2: Of that and be like, okay, what sex.
Speaker 1: But I I enjoyed that Chris Hibler.
Speaker 2: Did as we always loved working with him. A great
Speaker 2: job in this episode. I feel like all of the performances,
Speaker 2: the shots, like you're saying, he let the scenes breathe
Speaker 2: when they needed to, got out of them when he
Speaker 2: needed to, were really great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they're back together, so let's go kind
Speaker 1: of health. I know we didn't want them together, and
Speaker 1: they were a.
Speaker 5: Part together than she was with Dick. They're just not
Speaker 5: They're not endgame.
Speaker 1: But they're more fun.
Speaker 2: They're fun. Dick was boring.
Speaker 5: Dick was cute though, he just was a very typical
Speaker 5: fraternity boy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one likes a basic Dick.
Speaker 7: Yeah, next up David.
Speaker 2: Oh a downward spiral.
Speaker 5: You guys, it's rough?
Speaker 1: What is happening?
Speaker 7: I have?
Speaker 3: I am so nervous to watch him come on screen
Speaker 3: because I just don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna go get drunk? Is he is?
Speaker 5: He good an actor? Is a good actor because he's rough? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He was so great. Oh my god, his body looked
Speaker 2: so good in that scene when he came in wet
Speaker 2: from the Donna's like in November. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 2: so cold. It's fifty degrees. It's like, that's sounds crazy cold.
Speaker 1: Like, no, I'm not going in the ocean.
Speaker 5: It well, because it's uncomfortable to watch. He's unco It's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm on the edge of my
Speaker 1: seat because I just I'm not sure what's going to happen.
Speaker 5: The shopping at the mall, the whole thing, and he's
Speaker 5: kind of having a meltdown, and it was just like,
Speaker 5: oh boy, this is very.
Speaker 1: Is it bad?
Speaker 5: Though?
Speaker 2: That I like me, this is like a personal thing
Speaker 2: because I played Donna, but that I do like seeing
Speaker 2: them together and their interaction. I think kissing her and
Speaker 2: hugging her, and I'm like wanting for her for him
Speaker 2: to be okay because I want them together. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: he's like, say the word we're going to Cairo, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, go go with him anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wouldn't advise you to go on that
Speaker 3: trip as your best friend. I would say, let's just
Speaker 3: give him a minute to stabilize.
Speaker 2: Oh you always say the practical words the ballet.
Speaker 5: They did it. They did it pretty well, like you
Speaker 5: get them. At first, you think he's doing okay when
Speaker 5: you guys are at school, and then he says want
Speaker 5: to go shopping, and you're kind of like, yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Says, want to come over. But then they go to
Speaker 1: the mall and then.
Speaker 5: The mall was uncomfortable. The valet is uncomfortable, the swimming things,
Speaker 5: and he's so like, oh it.
Speaker 2: Was, Oh, I really like Donna's Nighty though, Donna's Granny
Speaker 2: Nighty with little little straps like that. Yeah, my mom
Speaker 2: has someone just like that. It was it was like
Speaker 2: so cute that it was cute.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would wear that for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually get myself. It's like breathable, like nice
Speaker 1: sleeping gown.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't like nightgowns. I liked him as
Speaker 5: a kid, and then now I just get all tangled
Speaker 5: up in that mess. Wait.
Speaker 2: Wait, oh, Dave's really gonna love you in a sleeping gown. Wait,
Speaker 2: you got to get those ones that come all the
Speaker 2: way around like smocking around the net.
Speaker 5: Wait, you guys, I literally woke up this morning and
Speaker 5: was like I slept so I went to bed last
Speaker 5: night and I was it was so cold. I was like,
Speaker 5: it's freezing, right. I slept so good, And I think
Speaker 5: it's because I was absolutely freezing, Because I think it's
Speaker 5: so I don't know if any lady could wear a
Speaker 5: nightgown and just be oh, you'd be sweating.
Speaker 2: Or flannel jammies.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, remember the onesies we used to like
Speaker 5: as a kid, I'd sleep.
Speaker 2: In like, remember I have them, I wear them.
Speaker 1: I still have a basket of those somewhere.
Speaker 5: Just sleep in that. I would be so hot.
Speaker 3: And then also so stinky when you get out of it.
Speaker 3: You're like, what is that smell.
Speaker 2: In the polyester of.
Speaker 5: The weird plastic on the foot, the nubs.
Speaker 2: Those are like kids like onesies, like the adult ones
Speaker 2: had them too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so I knew it.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This guy on.
Speaker 1: Wesley the actor, Yes, he would wear a Winnie the
Speaker 1: Pooh onesie to work. Wesley Jonathan.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it was Jonathan. I knew it was
Speaker 5: Wesley Jonathan.
Speaker 2: I love that for him.
Speaker 1: He would wear his Winnie the Pooh onesie with the
Speaker 1: poo head up on and then his just little face out.
Speaker 2: Guys, what is wrong with this. He was ahead of
Speaker 2: his time. All the kids are wearing the masks all
Speaker 2: the kids wear now school.
Speaker 1: We were always like, wow, you look so comfortable.
Speaker 2: He's like, I am right and didn't care. See that's cool.
Speaker 2: Like I have a snoopy onesie I wear all the time.
Speaker 2: Not sha, I think that's so cute. I've never seen
Speaker 2: your snoopy onesie. Oh it's a Christmas one. It's good.
Speaker 2: I'll send you a picture.
Speaker 1: But yeah, he Okay, David inherited all this money.
Speaker 2: What was it, two hundred eight thousand? How much does
Speaker 2: he already spent?
Speaker 1: And then how much does he have left over to
Speaker 1: buy the peapad? Because I'm getting a little nervous.
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's going to be gone fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there it goes. How's he going to afford the
Speaker 1: peach pit?
Speaker 2: Wo whitch situation? I mean, I know it's we're leading
Speaker 2: to he's being manic about everything and excessive and binging.
Speaker 2: But a lot of young people that gets famous and
Speaker 2: money quickly when they're young, this does happen to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to buy stuff that they never could before.
Speaker 2: Talk and then you lose everything. I don't know who
Speaker 2: he has a.
Speaker 5: Quarter of a million dollars. I mean he's probably spent
Speaker 5: what a thousand at them all at the most.
Speaker 3: You think he's not two dollars penn well over a
Speaker 3: thousand at that mom or.
Speaker 2: If they had a lot of bags, then they had boxes.
Speaker 5: What do we think he's giving for the peach bit
Speaker 5: a hundie one hundred, one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Whatever he's giving. Val is ready to suck it up.
Speaker 1: She doesn't care, Nope, And then they start breaking out.
Speaker 5: I mean I was like, oh boy, he forgaved her
Speaker 5: pay back together or he's even going to remember this.
Speaker 5: He's so like out of his mind. He forgave her
Speaker 5: for remember when she wanted to like on him off
Speaker 5: on uh jingil Monica, Like, I guess he forgot about it.
Speaker 5: He sure did. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Everyone just wants to throw money at this girl or
Speaker 2: not lucky her, Like what the heck?
Speaker 3: I know because Kenny was like, just keep the money,
Speaker 3: I don't want it. I would have been like, it's like,
Speaker 3: I'll take that back.
Speaker 5: Why do you think that Brandon?
Speaker 2: Okay, way are we going to this now?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think we should say why do we think
Speaker 5: Brandon really is the only one that has any anything
Speaker 5: over Valerie, like not anybody else. She only like kind
Speaker 5: of listens to him, even though she lies to him.
Speaker 2: Because he's the only one that truly cares about her
Speaker 2: no matter what, Like she's not a good person, and
Speaker 2: he still loves her.
Speaker 5: But he doesn't learn, Like she lied to his face.
Speaker 5: He knew everything, and he pushes her on it and
Speaker 5: she still lies. But it's like he for he just
Speaker 5: always just forgives her too.
Speaker 2: He's like that with the pretty ladies. Though. I gotta say,
Speaker 2: though I have never seen Brandon which with such big
Speaker 2: I know, when he yelled, fired up out of character,
Speaker 2: I was like, good for you, Like I loved him
Speaker 2: never He's always so calm and like diplomatic. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was turned on.
Speaker 1: He turned on.
Speaker 2: I was turned on like he was. He stepped up.
Speaker 1: I liked it too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, he does take control from time to time
Speaker 5: where he really he is the leader of the bunch, right,
Speaker 5: there's no denying it.
Speaker 1: Right, he was sitting there reading a magazine like old
Speaker 1: Jim Wood made.
Speaker 5: It was father figurey, Jenny, You're right, he was ready
Speaker 5: to sort of be the father figure to Valerie. Right,
Speaker 5: and then it's like she lied to the parent and
Speaker 5: then he was like me perfect.
Speaker 2: But still even when he is the leader and does
Speaker 2: the right thing and takes charge, he still he never
Speaker 2: yells like that. I have never in all these seasons
Speaker 2: heard him maybe reading one other time, I can't remember.
Speaker 5: Do you yell as an actor? Because wouldn't it like.
Speaker 2: You open your mouth and shout.
Speaker 5: So it doesn't like blow out mikes or sound like
Speaker 5: you just can actually yell.
Speaker 3: Well, I think in that situation the boom man, who's
Speaker 3: usually in the shot, would give him a little bit
Speaker 3: more room up there. Yeah, boom when he knows that
Speaker 3: the scream is coming, the yells are coming.
Speaker 2: Right, He probably heard rehearsal and was like wow.
Speaker 3: When Blake used to be like, oh yeah, if you
Speaker 3: ever like because that would happen. We'd been messing around
Speaker 3: or whatever, and one of us would screech or scream
Speaker 3: or slap or make some big noise and the sound
Speaker 3: men would act as if their ear drums had been
Speaker 3: blown out, which they probably had.
Speaker 1: Oh sound guys.
Speaker 5: Do we feel sad to see Kenny go?
Speaker 2: Okay? First of all, can we go back to the beginning.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of mention and visuals of Mustard
Speaker 2: in this episode, Mustard, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Are you picking up when I'm putting down?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Kelly makes uh a Colonel Mustard in the war?
Speaker 1: Okay, she says, yeah, so did Colonel Mustard or something?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, was it Colonel Mustard in the.
Speaker 1: Laboratory with the Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 5: Was a clue. It was a clue.
Speaker 2: Right, So there's two references. And then almost the entire episode,
Speaker 2: Valerie wear's the worst out that I've ever seen. It's
Speaker 2: an ever scene, this mustard yellow. I loved it. So
Speaker 2: it was like, oh, it was so good.
Speaker 1: It was so cute on her body, her body.
Speaker 2: Okay, so go ahead, Kenny.
Speaker 1: Kenny, I have got to say, I'm going to miss him.
Speaker 2: Because he wore his last he wore suspenders.
Speaker 5: That's all. I would have done something so different with Kenny.
Speaker 5: If I were the creator and writer, I would have
Speaker 5: I sort of think the affair was sort of a
Speaker 5: compelling storyline. I think I would have gone in a
Speaker 5: different direction and dragged it out more.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like more like drama with the wife.
Speaker 5: Yeah, more dynasty ish, like not the whole like I'm
Speaker 5: fake pregnant and I want money more like they almost
Speaker 5: get caught and just you know, more sort of leaning
Speaker 5: into that, and maybe she falls in love with him
Speaker 5: even more and he's in love with her, and you're
Speaker 5: sort of wondering, and why doesn't he leave the wife?
Speaker 5: And I don't Just more sort of drama with that.
Speaker 3: I don't know about all this, Like I fell in
Speaker 3: love with him, I fell in love with her, talk
Speaker 3: like he ain't buying it.
Speaker 5: It's too fast either, Like love takes time and he
Speaker 5: doesn't love her, come on, takes time, Like I think
Speaker 5: he loves his wife the whole, like he's leaving the wife.
Speaker 5: He's never leaving the wife. The wife. He needs to
Speaker 5: leave them. If you're going to be honest, she needs
Speaker 5: to say, Kenny, I'm gonna take.
Speaker 1: You for everything you got, and you're the secretary while
Speaker 1: I'm at.
Speaker 5: It, Yeah, yeah, you need to go.
Speaker 2: Wait else they have you know, he's had sex with
Speaker 2: the secretary, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like probably we're really just kind of what's
Speaker 1: it called assuming leaders a little too long? She knows,
Speaker 1: well exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brandon did have some balls too, because he walked
Speaker 5: into that office. Brandon had some serious balls in this
Speaker 5: episode too, because that took balls to go and.
Speaker 1: Have balls like it's Brandon Walsh first of all, and
Speaker 1: second of all, Yeah, Jim Walsh owns the company, So
Speaker 1: of course I.
Speaker 5: Don't think Jim owns the company. I think Jim's just
Speaker 5: a high up exec at the company.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Jim owns the company.
Speaker 5: It's your because I remember Jim almost got fired or
Speaker 5: something weird happened.
Speaker 1: He got to shop back and then everybody.
Speaker 5: Loves Yeah, he's a big wig at the at the company,
Speaker 5: which is all the more reason why it's like Kenny's
Speaker 5: choices are really odd.
Speaker 2: I still think like Brandon did step up though, like yeah,
Speaker 2: he didn't have to do that.
Speaker 1: Well, he had to get the truth, he had to find.
Speaker 5: He didn't say to Kenny is like hey Kenny, uh,
Speaker 5: I get it, Like Valerie is, you know, extorting you,
Speaker 5: But what are you doing Kenny, Like, hey, Kenny, you're
Speaker 5: married and now you're kind of like praying on a
Speaker 5: young girl. He didn't do that.
Speaker 3: That's none of his beast wax. Honestly, none of this
Speaker 3: is his business. But I like he's trying, but.
Speaker 5: Still Kennys Kenny comes off like a little too clean
Speaker 5: in this, like everybody's giving Valerie all the grief.
Speaker 3: When I was watching that, I made I remember you
Speaker 3: saying I like this guy, you know, even though he's
Speaker 3: accidentally falling in love with this girl, Like I really
Speaker 3: like him.
Speaker 1: I was when I was watching himself, like how could
Speaker 1: she like him?
Speaker 5: He's I had a terrible taste.
Speaker 3: He's like he's pit of me, like I'm a big
Speaker 3: expect I can buy my way out of lies, and
Speaker 3: it's just yeah, he's so far charming.
Speaker 5: He's the dick.
Speaker 2: He is dick. Yeah he should.
Speaker 5: It's like on a young girl too, like we're not.
Speaker 5: I mean, I understand she's over, you know, eighteen, and
Speaker 5: I think she's over twenty one, but like he's like forty.
Speaker 5: And like also the nonchalant way that Kelly says, Oh
Speaker 5: he hit on me when I was the babysitter, and
Speaker 5: it's just like he.
Speaker 1: Is he doing it for a long time. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just one of those guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah ill ew Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I did also feel like, wait, Kelly is really
Speaker 1: stirring some pots in this episode. She's busting up in there,
Speaker 1: telling him fou secret to Brandon. She just marches up
Speaker 1: on the Valerie at the coffee bar.
Speaker 5: She did not keep the secret in any way.
Speaker 2: I liked it. Kelly was great. I liked it too.
Speaker 2: I did. I did have a moment where I'm like,
Speaker 2: God forbid, they're wrong. I know me too. I feel
Speaker 2: so bad as Kelly's friend like that, she like because
Speaker 2: she would never have done that if she thought it
Speaker 2: was real.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh what if that would have been
Speaker 1: Donna saying to Kelly, don't do this because you don't know.
Speaker 5: Kelly like, I know, but we knew, we knew, and
Speaker 5: Steve knew. Steve was like one plus one is not
Speaker 5: e going to like, She's got all her facts all
Speaker 5: jumbled up.
Speaker 2: A lot of clue detective mystery like sleuth things. In
Speaker 2: this episode.
Speaker 4: Valerie is a bad liar. She's not a good liar'st like,
Speaker 4: she's not the only the only cares. The only one
Speaker 4: she pulled off was the one with Ginger le Monica.
Speaker 5: That one was she.
Speaker 1: Pulled that off, and even then she wasn't good at it,
Speaker 1: but the rest of the people were just accepted it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Ginger, you know, played the part. Yeah, m hm,
Speaker 2: So what now? Valerie and David own the peepad and
Speaker 2: they're going to live happily ever after. I'm fine, I
Speaker 2: think we're going to Vegas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's mad.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna lie broken up by this time. So
Speaker 2: I r L in real life. Yeah, so they probably weren't.
Speaker 5: That's not happy to even.
Speaker 1: It looked very natural though. It looked like, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: do this again. That feels good.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, because they actually have some chemistry. You realize
Speaker 5: that when you see when you compare you and Mark
Speaker 5: to the two of them, it's like, oh wow, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Val has chemistry with everyone though.
Speaker 5: Yeah she does.
Speaker 1: She's uh, she's very snack in the grass.
Speaker 2: No, very like I was.
Speaker 5: Gonna say, vixen.
Speaker 1: Is that the vixeny sectualized?
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
Speaker 1: What do you give it?
Speaker 2: What do you give it? What's your school?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry it's not higher than eight. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: it a nine. Whoa, whoa, I'm really sorry. I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed the fast pace like I was fast. Yeap, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all. Maybe it like moved.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eight eight and a half.
Speaker 2: Let's let's do the different.
Speaker 5: Wow, I'm the lowest. That's that's weird, that's rare, weird. Wow,
Speaker 5: it was the coust I just was so bored by
Speaker 5: the cous dinner, the weird calls. I was like, I
Speaker 5: don't I'm not enjoying this weird though.
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm sorry. Okay, what's next week?
Speaker 3: Next week we have The Things We Do for Love? Nope,
Speaker 3: that's the one we watched tonight.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: The next week, we have lost in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5: And I think it's not on streaming for those listening,
Speaker 5: We're gonna have to get our DVDs out because I
Speaker 5: think there's music. I think I think Jamie Walters is back.
Speaker 2: Wait, we filmed in Vegas? Actually, correct? Did you go
Speaker 2: to Vegas?
Speaker 5: I don't think you all go, but I think some
Speaker 5: of you go, and I think Jamie Walters is back.
Speaker 1: Well, then you go?
Speaker 2: Do I go?
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I think I think it's David
Speaker 5: and Valerie. Now I can't remember, but I don't think
Speaker 5: you all go because I think that that Jamie Walters.
Speaker 5: I can't remember. I don't want to necessarily think again,
Speaker 5: I think so, and I think that's why it's on streaming,
Speaker 5: because he must be singing. I'm sorry why it's not
Speaker 5: on streaming. I'm pretty sure. I think he's definitely back.
Speaker 5: He's involved.
Speaker 1: How about we see you guys next week. We'll find
Speaker 1: out for sure.
Speaker 5: And here's my note. If anytime during the day you
Speaker 5: hear the word dick or any reference to a coxin,
Speaker 5: just give a little giggle, awink.
Speaker 2: And a giggle. Nobody will know why you're laughing. You
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Speaker 1: Because we made you laugh. That's all we want. Bye guys,
Speaker 1: Bye guys.