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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight fire Fair? It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 1: February second. Some days you wake up you don't remember

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Speaker 1: what day it is. It's been that kind of week,

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Speaker 1: ladies in Germ's that kind of week. We had massive

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Speaker 1: news on Wednesday with the goat Tom Brady retiring the

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Speaker 1: second year in a row. On February one, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: decided to retire. I don't know. I think I've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before, guys. For whatever reason, I endings for

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Speaker 1: me is just like Hall of Fame. I just I

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Speaker 1: can't get that worked up about it. Tom Brady announces

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Speaker 1: his retirement and I'm just like okay, and I'm quickly

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Speaker 1: off Brady and I'm like, okay, what are the Raiders

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Speaker 1: And I start thinking about next, what's next. I'm not

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Speaker 1: really taking the time to soak in Brady's retirement, and

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Speaker 1: part of it because he retired last year and everybody

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Speaker 1: got worked up, and then he came back forty days later.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know this time it's for real. And

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Speaker 1: Brady is gonna announce another video here shortly and it's serious. Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll see you know, I'm kind of getting into it.

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers has given us this

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Speaker 1: retirement stuff. Like guys, just as they like to say

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Speaker 1: in the streets, ship or get off the pot um.

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Speaker 1: I will say. The funniest comment I saw from Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: well not from Tom Brady about tom Brady's retirement. Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady has has has more retirements too than Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has Super Bowls one. I had to laugh, folks, I

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Speaker 1: had to. Anyways, Well, we all know Brady as of

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Speaker 1: now is the goat six super Bowls with the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: one with the Bucks total of seven, career leader in

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Speaker 1: passing yards, touchdowns, three m v P Awards. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: I do think we could be setting up for a

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's versus Lebron situation. Yeah, I now grown where

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady has seven, Patrick Mahomes doesn't get to seven,

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Speaker 1: and then everybody's saying, well, Patrick Mahomes is better then

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was. Patrick Mahomes extensive plays he does it

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Speaker 1: with his legs. He makes unbelievable throws. He's ridiculous that

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Speaker 1: we could have that. But Pat Holmes isn't even thirty yet.

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Speaker 1: We're got at the table that for years. Brady, of course,

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Speaker 1: now is going to be my teammate over at Fox Sports. Allegedly.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Maybe he goes to the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: maybe not. I don't think I need to rehash my

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Speaker 1: two oh one and a half Tom Brady interview is

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Speaker 1: first one. I was living in New York City. I've

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Speaker 1: told us many times on the pod. Tier one listeners

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Speaker 1: know what the heck's up. I get working at this

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Speaker 1: magazine in New York City US Weekly and they say, hey, Jason,

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Speaker 1: there's a Victorious secret party. I'm like, I'm in, yeah,

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Speaker 1: can you interview Tom Brady? He just he won a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He was super young early in his career.

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Speaker 1: This must have been two thousand two. I don't maybe

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Speaker 1: He's like, Victoria's Secret. Yeah, I'm in. So we go there,

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Speaker 1: good party, and I you know, I walked into this

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Speaker 1: right back, and he just stands there watches I go

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is screwed unless they make a play for car.

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Speaker 1: If you saw the news on Wednesday, Jimmy Garoppolo, according

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Speaker 1: any rate, Congrats Tom Brady on a great career. The

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Speaker 1: it enjoyed greatly by hoop heads historians. Mitch Lawrence, longtime

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Speaker 1: writer for The Daily News in New York, now lives

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Speaker 1: in Texas in the middle of an ice store. Sounds brutal,

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Speaker 1: and he has a series radio XM show Serious XM

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Speaker 1: Radio Show, Goodness Gracious and we talk NBA. We disagree

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Speaker 1: on a lot. Now. He's a little more old school

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Speaker 1: to you. Guys will enjoy it, enjoy Mitch Lawrence Serious

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Speaker 1: XM Radio NBA host Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports

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Speaker 1: fans want, but for everything he doesn't. He knows a

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Speaker 1: the midst of a brutal weather uh down in Texas.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely snowy, and I see it's not going well.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Lawrence, how are you man? Yeah, you said, all right,

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Speaker 1: of there's plenty of NBA to watch on TV. How

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Speaker 1: are you alright? Jason excellent, enjoying the NBA as well.

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Speaker 1: gonna be fine. As long as they're healthy, they're fine.

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Speaker 1: So wait, Mitch Uhn, it seems like you think Denver

423
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: and Memphis are the two best teams in the West.

424
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: And again, to the casual guy who listened to our

425
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: podcast has mostly been on NFL all this season and

426
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: is now starting to pivot to the NBA, is like,

427
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you're telling me Denver or Memphis are

428
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,479
Speaker 1: coming out of the West. And I'm like, again, I

429
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: like mpj um, he's had an injury history. I love

430
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray. I think you gets a little overrated in

431
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And I'll just ask you nicely, like, are

432
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 1: you afraid of this team? Come May? If you are

433
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers? Are the Warriors? No Warriors stuff? Yeah, we see.

434
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: The thing about the Warriors is and they they approach

435
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: it from a different mindset than anybody else. Everyone titles

436
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: with this group. They proved last year they don't need

437
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant Uh if they overcome all these issues they've

438
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: had this year. The number one one still, I think

439
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: being what's going on with Jordan Pool and the rest

440
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: of the guys and the whole Draymond Green thing that

441
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: Steve Kirk put it way back when it happened, the

442
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: worst crisis we've had since we've been here. If they

443
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: overcome all that and they're healthy, um, they have all

444
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 1: the winning experience more than anybody else. They trump everybody

445
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: else in the West, Nobody, the Clippers, Denver, Memphis, Um, Sacramento.

446
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 1: None of these teams have done any kind of winning

447
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: like these guys have. The only thing you would wonder

448
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: would be, as you know, as they get ready to

449
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: embark on another what they hope is a deep playoff front,

450
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: are they gonna have the legs? Because sometimes it catches

451
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 1: up with you all these extra you know, you play

452
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: multiple playoff rounds over the years, sometimes that can catch

453
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: up with you. But the saving grace is in the playoffs,

454
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: you don't play back to back and you know the schedule.

455
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: You can deal with it. But that Golden State's a

456
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: unique team because right now they look like a disaster

457
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: compared to what they've been and they are not at all.

458
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: Even though they're the dynasty. There's no super team. And

459
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: I got a point about that too, And the resident

460
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: dynasty doesn't look like the dynasty. Here's my point about

461
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: the super team. There's no super team. There's no team

462
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: right now that's headed for sixty wins. We haven't had

463
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: an NBA without a sixty win team in the last

464
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: twenty two years, since two thousand. Now, sixty wins isn't

465
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: a guarantee. You've said you've seen sixty win teams. The

466
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: Mattericks had a great sixty win team, sixty seven win

467
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: team went back at US, Yeah, and they got beat

468
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 1: in the first round. That's no guarantee. Davis thinking is

469
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: an indicator of a sixty win team is usually a

470
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: great You would say they're a great regular season team.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I can't even tell you the Denver members

472
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: a great regular season teams. I told you before Denver

473
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: is on a paste to win fifty six games. That's

474
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: not a great team. That's a very good team. And

475
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: then the as great as the Celtics have been, they're

476
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: only distant. They're they're on a pace to win fifty

477
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: eight Milwaukee, we don't know about Buston and Joe Massoula

478
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: in the heat of the playoffs. You know, Joe Maszula

479
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: is a guy He's what a great story he coached

480
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: where at Fairmont State in West Virginia. He gets thrown

481
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: into this thing to be the head coach. Will already

482
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: leaves to go to Utah and Meo Douca Doca gets

483
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: embroiled in this scandal where he's basically suspended, slash fired,

484
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a guy Joe Massoula, and people

485
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: are like, well, what's the big deal? Greg pop Fitch

486
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: screwed up six against Miami in the f tim Ducan

487
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: on the floor to get the biggest rebound of the

488
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: night when Chris Bosh got the rebound out the rayal.

489
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Rick Pattino when he coached Kentucky back in the day,

490
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: didn't guard grand Hill on the inbounds and he had

491
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: an unobstructed view to throw the Christian lightner. These are

492
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: great head coaches who have much more experience than Joe Massoula,

493
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: who's going to be in his first playoff rodeo. You

494
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: mean to tell me he can't make a big screw

495
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: up now and then it's not a bad point. I

496
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: do want to go back to the sixty win thing

497
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: because I hadn't heard anybody say that. So twenty two

498
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: years there, I would I would say there's some really

499
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: really good teams this year. We all we read about

500
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: in the preseason Mitch was the tanking for when Bin

501
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: Yama is going to be historic. And I almost wonder

502
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: is something happening in the league now where the regular

503
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: season results are minimized. We saw Phoenix last year when

504
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: sixty seven went all out in the regular season and

505
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: and flopped out in the second round. Chris Paul ran

506
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: out of gas halfway through that series. I almost wonder

507
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: is there less value in winning or trying to win

508
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: sixty plus games because ultimately, like what does it really matter?

509
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: And teams aren't afraid to go on the road anymore.

510
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: We just saw in the NFL nobody's afraid to go

511
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: on the road in the playoffs. Golden State. Golden State

512
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: should be afraid to go on the road. They're terrible

513
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: on the road. They're very good on the road right now,

514
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: but they've won on the Here's here's the deal. Yes,

515
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: the regular season, the teams don't value it. How do

516
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: we know that players don't play? The biggest scandal going

517
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: around right now in the NBA is that you don't

518
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: know who's showing up from game. The game, you know,

519
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: Golden State on the back to back after losing an

520
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: overtime to Boston, goes into Cleveland. Nobody plays the Cleveland

521
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: fae's screwed. People put down their hard earned dollars in

522
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland and go see that team. What kurs stay after

523
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: the game. It's a big topic. No, it's a big problem.

524
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: You have to use the word problem. It's a problem

525
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: for the league. And I'm gonna tell you why, because

526
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: you're alienating your fan base and Adams the road. Adam

527
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: Silver is going to have to at some point with

528
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: his owners. You're gonna have to rethink this whole load

529
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: management thing and rest and the science of it, because

530
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: it's a big turn off. It's a big turn off.

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00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, again, what what does Golden

532
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: Stake care about the Denver fans? If I'm cur I

533
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: don't want to show Denver anything right now. He doesn't

534
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: care at all about the Cleveland fans. And that's the problem.

535
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: There's no reason Jason is a problem when the fans

536
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: have a problem and the product. Here's the problem with

537
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: the product. Your best players take a lot of games off. Now,

538
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: what's a lot too many. Whatever it is, Well, you

539
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: know what I would if I were coaching George. I

540
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: got no problem with that. I said, you know what, guys,

541
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: I need you healthy for the playoffs. That's what matters.

542
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: I would much rather win how many games you need

543
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: to win the playoffs. Usually the regular season is a

544
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: The more you play together in the regular season, the

545
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: chances are you're gonna and the more you succeed, the

546
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: better all feel do in the playoffs, but you have

547
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: a proving ground where you're able to work out a

548
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: lot of issues and you're able to get a blueprint

549
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: of what works, what doesn't work, and it also shows

550
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: you what you're weaknesses are. But I don't like this

551
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: whole notion that, well, we're just gonna play. When we

552
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: are to play in the regular season, you're still putting

553
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: on an entertainment product where you're charging I wouldn't have

554
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: any problem with they weren't charging big ticket, the big,

555
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: big money for tickets. I really wouldn't have a problem.

556
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: I have a problem with this interesting. I look at

557
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: it as I'm not putting on an entertainment product. I'm

558
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: here to win a championship and load managing in the

559
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: regular season if it's gonna help me win a championship,

560
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: and that's what the science and the numbers day. I'm

561
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: getting fully behind it now. Listen, would be ticked off

562
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: if I went to a game with a Curry jersey

563
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: and he didn't even play? Would I be ticked Of

564
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: course that would stink. I wouldn't a ticket. I wouldn't.

565
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go back. Here's the thing what you have

566
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: to hope for. You have to hope for that the

567
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Clipper go all the way, because then it'll be bad

568
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: for the It'll be bad for us because everybody's gonna say,

569
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: see what the Clippers did, call I hardly played, Paul

570
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: George played a little bit more and they won the title.

571
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: That's what you have to hope for. The interesting thing is, um,

572
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, is there anything that says playing a D

573
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: two games is better for you heading into the playoffs.

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00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: I know you made the point that cohesive just matters,

575
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: but mitche I remember those Lebron teams and stuff. Remember

576
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: those Lebron teams that played no defense in the East.

577
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: When he was with the Calves Lebron Kyrie Kevin, they

578
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: played no defense and I remember multiple times the Toronto

579
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: Raptors were supposed to be the team to beat, and hey,

580
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: you gotta keep an eye on the Celtics and you

581
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: gotta keep it. And Lebron would just flip the switch

582
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: even after Kyrie left and they would still get to

583
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: the finals. It's like, dude, we've got Lebron, We're fine. Well,

584
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: here's one of the deals about Lebron. And he happens

585
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: to be in the news because he's gonna break Kareem's record.

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00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: To me, it's not the record he's gonna He's gonna

587
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: leave with a lot of benchmarks to me. To me,

588
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: the big one is eight straight NBA finals. I believe

589
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: it was right now when you're saying Toronto's got to

590
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: Marta Rosen and Kyle Lowry, so what they had Lebron James,

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00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: that's a whole different discussion, isn't it. This guy is

592
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: an immortal. Those guys were all star players, borderline all NBA,

593
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: not even all NBA. So I never bought into Toronto.

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00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: This is old history. You're gonna beat Lebron James in

595
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: a series. I don't care if Lebron James is walking

596
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: out there with two guys off of Euclid Avenue in Cleveland.

597
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: He'd beat in a series. That's the way he is.

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00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: He's just you know, you're talking about a guy who's eight.

599
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: He's an argument for Mount Rushmore spot right, So in

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00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: the argument, what do we argument he's not on Mount Rushmore? Well,

601
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: how many people do you put on Mount Rushmore? I

602
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: think four? Four? Good? We're on the same page there,

603
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: because when you go to South Dakota, there are four

604
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: guys up on the head on the mountain. They're not five.

605
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Put five. Listen, there are people who put the three

606
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: centers Russell, Chamberlain, Jabbar and Michael Joe. Who are those people?

607
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's the people who are older than you. Right,

608
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm older than you think. But but you didn't watch

609
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: Will play. You didn't watch Russell play. I did not.

610
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: I was not born. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: That's an interesting mentioning Bill Russell's interesting and I'm not

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00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: meaning this to denigrate him at all. He was essentially

616
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: a six eight six nine forward center who played Will

617
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: great head to head. If you transition Bill Russell what

618
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: he was for fifteen years into today's game, what is

619
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: Bill Russell in today's game? Because we know what Lebron

620
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: and Jordan were in that game. That's hard. I mean, listen, uh,

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00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: there are people who said he could have scored more.

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00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: That wasn't his role. Did you know that Bill Russell

623
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: changed his sport? Now, that's not high jump or something

624
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: like that. He introduced the block shot before Bill Russell. Oh,

625
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: I think he said changed boy, Okay, no, he changed

626
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: his sport. He changed this seed. To me, when Bill

627
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: Russell passed away, I know the off court stuff, the

628
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: civil rights activism, what he tried to do for African Americans,

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00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff very important. First legacy. He changed his world.

630
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Nobody had chased down other players block shots and turned

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00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: it into a fast break the other way in the

632
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: in the in the first twenty years, in the NBA

633
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: thirty years, Excuse me, he did. Now if you're saying,

634
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: what would he do in today's NBA, Look, he couldn't

635
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: shoot threes. He wasn't shooting threes back then. All your

636
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: big men have to shoot threes. He would still be

637
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: How do you account for a little of competitiveness, the

638
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: fact that the guy was so clutch, he was wanting

639
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: one to know in winners take all games in his

640
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: life college. You don't care about that, well, you care

641
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: about no. I know, I know, I sound like a hater.

642
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm not. Again, there was two I mean, Mitch wasn't

643
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: there like thirteen teams in the league when Bill Russell,

644
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: now you, I mean how many European players? Well, they were,

645
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: they didn't know. They weren't spanning the globe to bring

646
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: in the best in the on the planet like Mitch.

647
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: An interesting point right now is the three best players

648
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: in the league right now, Luka don Chech Janice, Tuna,

649
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: Coopo and Nicole Ki Right, you could argue find if

650
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: you want to toss them bet in there, all three

651
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: of them are europe They're not even Americans. Those guys

652
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: weren't even in the league in the fifties. So there's

653
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: no I mean, listen, Bill Russell was a historically great player.

654
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: He does not, I don't he's even in any discussion

655
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: from Mount Rushmore. It's again, he was incredible in his time.

656
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: To just kind of slough him off. No, No, he's

657
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: certainly listened an all time great, no doubt, but Mount Rushmore,

658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: I think you've got to start with Lebron. You gotta

659
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: go Michael Jordan's after that, probably Magic Johnson, and I

660
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 1: would think Kareem abdul Jabar would probably before. No, it's

661
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: a decent for I mean, you say you start with Lebron.

662
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: You know, the big difference between Lebron and Michael was

663
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: Michael didn't quit on his teams. And I'm not talking

664
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: about I'm not talking about leaving his team. I'm talking

665
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: about in games in the playoffs Lebron and Cleveland against Boston,

666
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: Lebron in that series against Dallas for Miami that first

667
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: year of the of their three, he did things in

668
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter where he let his team down. He

669
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: mentally collapsed, he mentally imploded. You never saw that from

670
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's. Michael Jordan as a co editor is above

671
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: Lebron James. I don't totally disagree with that. By the way,

672
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: Unsolved Mysteries should dedicate, like a ten part podcast to

673
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: what the hell happened to Lebron in that Dallas series. Yeah,

674
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: I've had multiple players from both sides on my podcast

675
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: and on radio shows. Nobody seems to know what happened.

676
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: It was so uncharacteristic. All that being said, you know,

677
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I think it's undeniable Lebron. If I was having a team,

678
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: I would take Lebron over Jordan for the first forty

679
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: seven minutes and in the final minute give me Michael

680
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Jordan's because Lebron elevates the play of all the guys

681
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: around him. I mean, he's now top five in NBA

682
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: history and assists. That's insane for six ft nine guy

683
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: who was small forward. Yeah. Well, you know, Michael, you know,

684
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: at both ends of the court dominated Uh yes, Mike,

685
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, uh much more. Lebron's chased down block of

686
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Andre Guadala leading to the Kyrie Irving shot is one

687
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: of the great sequences which he triggered to get leaveing

688
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: the win. Michael Jordan at the defensive end was it

689
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: was a assassin as much as he was at the

690
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: offensive end. And that's what people never talked about. Michael Jordan. Well,

691
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: he talked seven scoring titles which hadn't been done since

692
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: Will It's by the way, and all the great last

693
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: second shots and all the heroics. Michael Jordan as a

694
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: defender asked guys who played against him was yeah, just

695
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: to push back on one thing, real quick match. So

696
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: you said he didn't quit on team, on his team,

697
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a baby not not where Lebron

698
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: checked out on his team's in the game. So the

699
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: weird part, and again, you know I've talked about this

700
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: ad nauseam, Michael, this is a just a fact. Michael

701
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: Jordans quit on the Chicago Bulls twice after they won

702
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: three in a row. He quit. I know we can

703
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: talk about his father's terrible death, but he quit after

704
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: three titles. Then he came back they lost when he

705
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, tried to play baseball blah blah blah, and

706
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: he quit again after three titles. So he quit twice.

707
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Lebron has never see he taken time off. He didn't.

708
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: Here here's the difference. I'm talking about when Lebron would

709
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:28,439
Speaker 1: stop competing in games in the fourth quarters. Go back

710
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: to that year when he left Cleveland, that ridiculous fourth

711
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: quarter did whatever that game was, His effort was just stunning,

712
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: Lee bad. Michael didn't do that. He left it all

713
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: the floor every night. You never had a game where

714
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: he said, why isn't Michael Jordan's trying his hardest. Why

715
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: isn't he shooting? Why isn't he busting his desk? You

716
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: never had you never saw that in the game. Now,

717
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: what you're bringing up is factual. Yeah, three titles in

718
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: a row. Okay, And by the way, Leron James, I

719
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: didn't do three titles in a row. No, you don't

720
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: know how he got to eight finals in a row,

721
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Um, But listen, the other thing is

722
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: that's he dragged along some okay teams and then he

723
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: had obviously Kye here and Kevin Love. But still eight

724
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: finals in a row. We're not gonna that's gonna be

725
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: one of this enduring marks. The other thing, I like Mitch,

726
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: so you you know you've been around the media block

727
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 1: everywhere you go any outlet, baby, radio, TV, print, whatever

728
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: you're you know you're dominant. You know what you're doing

729
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: on the NBA. The same is true with Lebron in

730
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: the NBA. Wherever he goes, whoever his teammates are, whatever

731
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: the coaches, it doesn't matter. He succeeds and gets to

732
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: the finals and wins titles. Okay. Michael Jordan's stayed in Chicago,

733
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: which sure should be applauded, but he never won anything

734
00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: without Scottie Pippen and Phil Jackson on nothing. When Jordan

735
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: quit that first time, Pippen led the team back. I

736
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: think they won like fifty five games without Jordan, fifty

737
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: four whatever the number was. Lebron leaves teams and it

738
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: is nineteen twenty wins and thirty wins maybe with the

739
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: Miami Heat. I know they missed the playoffs, but um,

740
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: it's just they're different guys. Obviously. I think, you know,

741
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: the longevity gives Lebron the not over Jordan as the goat.

742
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: That's why I started Mount rush Wall with Jordan. I

743
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: know some people disagree, Um, Lebron over Jordan's, Okay, I mean, look,

744
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Lebron is gonna leave. First of all, here's the thing

745
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: about Lebron's that's amazing. At his age, he's still like

746
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: the number one option on his team. I'd take him

747
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: over Anthony Davis, who, by the way, shouldn't have made

748
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: the top seventy five team. Every time it's unfortunately, every

749
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: time I watched Anthony Davis play, I say to myself,

750
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: he is not a top seventy six player in history league.

751
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: He made the top seventy twight. Howard has a better

752
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: resume than Anthony Davis. Did Chris ever make it no

753
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: Chris whatever. But I want to go back to something

754
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: about Lebron. Lebron's fourth title is a two point oh title.

755
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: It's in the bubble. It's without any travel, obviously, so

756
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: he didn't have to go to Portland. He didn't go

757
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: out to go to Houston. Travel in Houston. You have

758
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: to go to Denver. Put up with all that air

759
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: travel in the playoffs. And the great thing about the bubble,

760
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: for especially lesser players, is that they didn't have to

761
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: face vicious road, hostile road crowds because everybody was playing

762
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: in a gym in Lake Queen and Vista, Florida. So,

763
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to tell you or me, that's a

764
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: regular title, Lebron one to me, he's got three point

765
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: seven five. He ain't got four. Oh. No way, Wow,

766
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Well it's weird because if you want, well, yeah, so

767
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: some of the players who were in the bubble struggled

768
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: mentally to sit in a room not It's obviously was rest,

769
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: but I'm not saying it was I'm not saying it

770
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: was PRIs Jason. You think that's harder. And sitting in

771
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: your room in Lake Buaina Vista, the Disney resort, in

772
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: your palatial room, you think that's harder than going into Boston.

773
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: But it's it's just so different again, you know, Mitch, like,

774
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: look and look at the Boston Garden and look at

775
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: all the players who had big bubbles, and since then,

776
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: what happened to him? Well? Yeah, but that's that's the

777
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: interesting thing. Like the Bubble, you were isolated again, not

778
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: compared to prison, because it's a five star resort or

779
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 1: whatever it is. You're in a room, you're getting food

780
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: delivered to you. You cannot interact with the outside world.

781
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: You can't hang around your family, like after a loss

782
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: of the Boston Garden, it's brutal. You go back to

783
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: your hotel room. Maybe your wife is traveling with you,

784
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: maybe you have family in town. You can't see any

785
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: of that. And we're talking about two months now. I

786
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: didn't do it. I didn't go to the Bubble, But Mitch,

787
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't think it was incredibly challenging

788
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: to stay essentially confined to a hotel room. I still

789
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: think two months to try to win a title, I

790
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: think it's gotta be different to play video games around

791
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: the clock. I think I still think it's more challenging

792
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: to go through and enduring a regular playoff run where

793
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: you have to travel, you have to get on planes

794
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: and although yeah they're traveling and they're not going commercial

795
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: and they're not going by stagecoach or covered wagon, you

796
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: talk to anybody who's played, and the travel and the

797
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: grind they playoff run starting in late April, mid April,

798
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: going through mid June, there's nothing like it, especially when

799
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: you have to take that oh my god, you lost

800
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: the game, so the series extended. You have to take

801
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: the extra flight, which teams, all veteran teams want to

802
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: prevent that. And then, by the way, you have to

803
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: put up with the all the venomous, all the channing,

804
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: all the stuff that you endure. Now regular title is

805
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: much more challenging to me than what they had to

806
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: put up in I heard what Lebron said, it was

807
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: his most challenging thing. And it's not just him because

808
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: it's a regular time. Yeah, it's interesting because Paul George

809
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: has openly talked and there's a lot of NBA players

810
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: who were dealing with just getting in your own head

811
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: and depression and just being in weird places mentally when

812
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: you just can't be around anybody. And here's the toughest

813
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: part mentioned. I would totally think that you would agree

814
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: with me. Yes, it's tough to go into Boston Garden

815
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: for three hours and get yelled at. You know what's

816
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: tougher having a phone in your pocket where millions of

817
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: fans around the globe have access to just attack you

818
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: on social media around the clock. It never stops. I

819
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: know you can easily say, well, don't look at it.

820
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: These guys were born with the phone. You know. These

821
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: are guys who, since fourteen years old, have been on

822
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, Kevin Durant gets Kevin Garrant gets affected

823
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: by it because he can't not respond at any time.

824
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: What is Lebron James? What are Lebron James doing a

825
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: lot of those playoff runs we always see him talk about.

826
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, he had a turn for it. I

827
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: can't remember off top of my head, but zero Dark

828
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: ninety I think it was. What was that Zero Dark ninety,

829
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: like the movie Zero Dark thirty. Right, that's the way

830
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: you gotta handle your profession. Look, some guys like Kevin

831
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: Durant it doesn't bug him, Paul George. I wouldn't be

832
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: surprised if it bothered Paul George. He's not exactly the

833
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: toughest warrior out there. Yeah, a lot of guys. C J.

834
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: McCollum openly talked about the struggles of the mental aspect.

835
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: DeMar deroz In. There's a story on ESPN like we

836
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: saw Janice in the bucks really melt down in the

837
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 1: in the bubble. Like again, it's different and some people

838
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: didn't want to ask that was a totally different thing.

839
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is from my vantage point, it's less

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Speaker 1: of a title than a regulars. All right, well that's

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Speaker 1: good stuff, Mitch. I like the back and forth. Mitch

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Speaker 1: Laurence serious XM radio, newspaper veteran and uh, he's seen

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Speaker 1: it all, Mitch. I'll just final note um. Patrick Ewing

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Speaker 1: was one of my favorite players growing up. I have

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Speaker 1: his autograph, I have a Patrick Ewing jersey. I just

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Speaker 1: love the guy. Born in New York. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: I struggle to know what Patrick Ewing would be in

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Speaker 1: the current NBA because you know six team foot fade aways,

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Speaker 1: eight team foot fade aways that he would take, well,

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Speaker 1: are like one of the worst shots you can take

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Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, I mean the game has changed. We

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Speaker 1: we know that the game evolves. If if you love

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Speaker 1: three point shooting, if you're not into you know, if

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Speaker 1: you don't love defense, hey, the NBA's for you. But

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Speaker 1: the three point Yeah, And I know what you say.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to look at some guys to say, how

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Speaker 1: would they play today? You would think that Patrick Ewing

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Speaker 1: would get a three point shot. My my deal with

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Speaker 1: Patrick June these days, Jason is my heart goes out

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Speaker 1: to him because of what's going on at Georgetown. Oh geez,

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Speaker 1: wait is he still there? I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: longer he is, But it's weird because there's all this

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Speaker 1: love over your kitchen. I'm like, Okay, he's a good

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Speaker 1: regular season player. I haven't totally seen in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: He did have a good Bubble playoffs. But then you

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Speaker 1: stack Yo Kich next to Ewing. Yokich has already had

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Speaker 1: a better career. And I don't care about All Star games.

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Speaker 1: That's irrelevant. All NBA matters a lot m vps matter, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, is that is that a hot take,

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Speaker 1: Mitch that your Kich has already had a better career

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Speaker 1: than you. Well, he's had two m v ps. Patrick

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Speaker 1: didn't have one. The last Nick to be do you

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Speaker 1: know the only Nick to be an m v P

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Speaker 1: in the regular season was Willis Reid. They've had one

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Speaker 1: in their franchise history. And Patrick couldn't win that because

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Speaker 1: who was around playing against him? His buddy Michael. Jordan's

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Speaker 1: his buddy, Michael. Yeah, damn, tough life, Patrick, but I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's doing all right. All Right, Mitch, thanks a

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Speaker 1: lot for taking the time, and we'll talk to you soon. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Jason and I enjoyed it, enjoored the back

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Speaker 1: and forth. Take care,