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Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I am Miles Simmons this week,

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy to be joined by Jblong, voice of

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Speaker 1: the Rams. And you know, it's been a little while

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Speaker 1: since not only you've been on the show, but since

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Speaker 1: we've actually done a show. I mean, I think the

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Speaker 1: Rams have played now two games basically, and unfortunately they

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Speaker 1: have lost both. But we've gone to Detroit, we've gone

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Speaker 1: to London, and you know now the Rams are three

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Speaker 1: and four coming out of the bi So we will

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Speaker 1: get to all of that in plus a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: If you're watching this on the website right now, you

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Speaker 1: can probably see my baseball cap right here. It's because

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Speaker 1: as we record this it is one twenty Pacific and

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Speaker 1: the Indians are going to play in the World Series tonight,

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Speaker 1: so that is sort of where my brain is. If

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, you're running the risk of really shortening

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Speaker 1: the shelf life of the podcast because if things don't

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Speaker 1: go your way tonight, I feel like you're going to

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Speaker 1: be very reticent to promote the Between the Horns podcasts

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Speaker 1: with your Cleveland Indians prediction right off the time. You know, well,

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Speaker 1: I didn't predict anything. I just yes, you're going to Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that they're going to win. I hope that

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Speaker 1: they're going to win. You know, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: want all of the Cleveland memes to come back to

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Speaker 1: haunt us. You know, like the Warriors blew a three

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Speaker 1: one lead in the finals, and now the Cavs the

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Speaker 1: Indians might actually do the same thing, which is sad.

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Speaker 1: But in the scenario right before we start talking about

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Speaker 1: football like we're supposed to, the Cubs are actually the Warriors, right,

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Speaker 1: because the Cubs are have the bigger payroll, They've got

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Speaker 1: all the talent, they won the most games, So the

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Speaker 1: Cubs really are are in this scenario the Warriors, So

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Speaker 1: they should be the ones that come back from a

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Speaker 1: three one. You've only got a few more hours to

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Speaker 1: cover miles, So whatever you need to do to soothe

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Speaker 1: yourself to get yourself in the right mindset for first

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Speaker 1: pitch is perfectly okay by me. All Right, well, then

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Speaker 1: let's just talk about football because it will probably be

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Speaker 1: better to distract myself. So the Rams as we set

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Speaker 1: off the top, you know, they lost their last two games,

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Speaker 1: and it really was sort of a tale of two

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Speaker 1: different games, Right, you have that Detroit game where defense

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Speaker 1: can't really stop Matt Stafford, and then in the last game,

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Speaker 1: the offense just can't really get the points on the

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Speaker 1: board they throw the interception. So JB from your perspective,

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Speaker 1: what has sort of gone wrong over the last couple weeks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's tough to diagnose because there's such disparate problems and

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Speaker 1: such disparate losses. I thought the defense did a nice

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Speaker 1: Giants were actually the perfect matchup for them to bounce

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Speaker 1: back because the Giants were so one dimensional they have

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Speaker 1: no running game whatsoever. And I thought the Rams did

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Speaker 1: a nice job loading up, keeping all everything in front

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Speaker 1: of them, tackling well, making sure that yards after catch

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Speaker 1: were minimize. OBJ did not get anything after catch. I

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Speaker 1: think their longest game was twenty five twenty six yards,

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Speaker 1: So from a defensive game plan execution standpoint, I thought

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Speaker 1: that was the perfect recipe for getting back on track

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Speaker 1: going into the bye week. On the other side of

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Speaker 1: the football, look, if there's a first half of the

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Speaker 1: season conclusion to be drawn, it's that the Rams are

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Speaker 1: much better protecting a lead and letting their defense do

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Speaker 1: trying to come from behind. It just hasn't happened for

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Speaker 1: the offense in Case Keenum in that regard yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's probably going to be the case

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Speaker 1: no matter who's a quarterback, right, I mean obviously, you

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Speaker 1: know there have been things, A lot has been said. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: after Case Keenum throws the four interceptions, well, why don't

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Speaker 1: you just turn to Jared Goff And I think head

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Speaker 1: coach Jeff Fisher probably put this well when he said

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Speaker 1: that the interceptions are not all on Case Keenum. And

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Speaker 1: I think there's something to that. I think particularly the

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Speaker 1: first and the last interceptions that Keenum through. You know,

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Speaker 1: Coach Fisher have been making that each interception needs to

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Speaker 1: be looked at like every play in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League is looked at. And if there was a breakdown

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Speaker 1: in protection and picking up a blitz in a route

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Speaker 1: that was run, obviously the quarterback gets the statistical blame

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Speaker 1: be looked at more analytically than that. I will say,

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Speaker 1: over the course of a game, over the course of

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Speaker 1: a season especially, I tend to think the interception total

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Speaker 1: even out in this regard. Since baseball is on our

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Speaker 1: mind today, for every screaming line drive that a diving

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Speaker 1: a batting average tends to even out. Yes, I agree.

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Speaker 1: While I agree that at least two, maybe three of

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Speaker 1: the interceptions that Case through against the Giants were not

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Speaker 1: two other footballs he threw into jeopardy that could have

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Speaker 1: been intercepted that were not hauled in for interceptions that

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Speaker 1: might balance out that equation. And there are plenty of

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Speaker 1: other examples for every quarterback over the course of the season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: far this season, it's almost exactly that. There are a

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Speaker 1: not all on the quarterback. But I think you're there's

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Speaker 1: And again Keenum has said that it's not like it's

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Speaker 1: when you have the wide receiver that those plays have

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Speaker 1: then that's a play that's got to be made by

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Speaker 1: somebody who I think we have to consider a veteran

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Speaker 1: wide receiver. Yeah. I'm just looking ahead to Caroline and

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Speaker 1: trying to anticipate what Case and the entire offense are

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Speaker 1: let me start by saying, I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: us felt like this bye week was the best opportunity

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Speaker 1: for Jared to get a starting nod. Since it appears

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Speaker 1: the likelihood of him getting a RAMS designated start in

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Speaker 1: the back half of the schedule has been diminished. It's

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Speaker 1: not nonexistent. But I would also point out that he

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Speaker 1: has been up. He's been active every week since Week two,

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Speaker 1: him and his preparation and his ability to leave him

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Speaker 1: going to play. Yeah, there is. Let's stick with this

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Speaker 1: that one practice that they had and I kind of

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Speaker 1: is only so much you can glean from watching practice, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: of whatever Jeff Fisher, rob Boris the whole offensive staff

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Speaker 1: in practice who, for whatever reason, when they have a

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Speaker 1: So we don't know which one of those players, Jared

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Speaker 1: we find that out. Still, but I also think we've

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Speaker 1: not contradicting Jeff here, but ever since Jared has been drafted,

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Speaker 1: the narrative has been when this young man is ready,

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Speaker 1: the job is his. Yes. Now we're coming off of

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Speaker 1: the bye week, the Rams are three and four. Based

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that it really is Jared's decision

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Speaker 1: performed brilliantly during the bye week. I still think at

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Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting point too, because when you

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Speaker 1: have case Keenan, at least you know what you're going

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Speaker 1: to get every week, right You The unknown of the

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback is a big deal, right, And no matter

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Speaker 1: where you're drafted, and you know, people talk about a

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Speaker 1: lot of different factors and we can see, you know,

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Speaker 1: as much as alec Ogletree. So it takes a team

432
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Speaker 1: to contain him from a running game standpoint. And then

433
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Speaker 1: you have this this I know you want to talk

434
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Speaker 1: about this. I do too. How do you tackle him

435
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: in a week where he has once again been very

436
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: vocal and has even gained the commissioner's ear about how

437
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,680
Speaker 1: he is not being protected. Now, Cam, I will say,

438
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: has been very good about delineating protection in the pocket.

439
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: Verse is acknowledging that he is a running quarterback and

440
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: expects the shots because he doesn't slide and he takes

441
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,679
Speaker 1: on guys in the running game. But I never like

442
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: being the team that faces someone who's asking for protection

443
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 1: from officials. And look, you know, we don't know what

444
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Speaker 1: krue we're gonna get. And then it's not like a

445
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: jury where you can incubate them and keep their their

446
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: even muss on. They're gonna hear it, just like the

447
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: rest of us are. And I fully appreciate their objectivity

448
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: and they want to call everything right right. But when

449
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: you're primed to see something, you see something. It's social psychology,

450
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: it's human psychology. Yeah, I know, I like. I like

451
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: the jury analogy how they're not like sequestered or anything

452
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: like that. No, but I totally agree that you know,

453
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Speaker 1: people ask um. I think Aaron Donald, Will Hazen and

454
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Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher about this after Tuesday's practice, and each of

455
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: them said, Oh, I'm not concerned about this particular thing happening, right,

456
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Speaker 1: So it's not what they were saying is that they're

457
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Speaker 1: not anticipating anything different because they say they know the rules.

458
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: They're just gonna go out and they're gonna play the

459
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: way they play. And I think if you are the RAMS,

460
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: that's all you can do, right because odds are no

461
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: matter what, there's going to be something that happens in

462
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 1: the game, and it might not even be what you

463
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 1: think is a foul or by the letter of the law,

464
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 1: what is actually a foul, and the officials are going

465
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Speaker 1: to call it because that's just it's like you said,

466
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: it's social psychology. It's the way humans brains work. So

467
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on the lookout for it. And if

468
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: you're on the RAMS, I mean, you just I don't

469
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: know if it's you got to anticipate that thing or

470
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: if you just say, you know what, to forget it.

471
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: I just gotta go and play the way I'm going

472
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: to play, and whatever happens happens, especially when you're the RAMS,

473
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Speaker 1: because you want to talk about psychology and what's going

474
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: on right now. I mean, there seems to be something

475
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: about this team that draws the attention of the striped

476
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: jerseys out there because the penalties have not gone their way.

477
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: So I hope DeMarco's back next week. And you're talking about, man,

478
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,159
Speaker 1: what a clean game. There were no personal fouls on

479
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. What was JB worried about? That was flawless.

480
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: I really hope that's a conversation you're having. But on

481
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: this side of Sunday, it does seem like a recipe

482
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Speaker 1: for a potential game changing fifteen yard penalty. And I

483
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong. Yeah, yeah, And but look to get

484
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Speaker 1: back to what Cam was saying though, did you think

485
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: he had a point because ideas Scampbell, Yeah, I mean

486
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Speaker 1: I do. And this isn't the first instance where he's

487
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: had you know, I forget was it Hockey Ley someone

488
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: he had to run in with the official where he

489
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: basically said like, you don't have the kind of senior

490
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: to be out Yeah, I think, yeah, which is weird.

491
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: Come on, and you're a lawyer better than that. And look,

492
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: Cam is an established quarterback in this league. He's the

493
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Speaker 1: reigning MVP. He has done everything you need to do

494
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Speaker 1: to get the protection of an Eli Manning or a

495
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: Drew Breeze or a Tom Brady. He's one of the

496
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: league's brightest young stars, but he's also had the resume

497
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: now to warrant protection just like every other quarterback. So

498
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: because he runs, because he's a big target, I think

499
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: teams know that their best chance of beating Cam Newton

500
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: is to take legal shots and maybe fringe ill eagle

501
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: shots against him and hope that that it breaks your way.

502
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to be aggressive as

503
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: a defense, and if the price associated with that as

504
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: a personal foul somewhere along the way, I think a

505
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: lot of defenses would would roll the dice on that

506
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: because if you have a Cam Newton who is not

507
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: concerned about traffic at his feet or about taking a

508
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: shot high, boys, that's an MVP Cam Newton. Absolutely. But yeah,

509
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: and just that hit though, I when I saw it,

510
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: I think I might have been watching that game on

511
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: red zone or whatever, but I saw it and I

512
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: was like, that's not a penalty because when you see

513
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: it Klais Campbell and I don't think this has anything

514
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: to do with Tim. I'm not trying to call Kalais

515
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Speaker 1: Campbell d anything to say that before I go into this,

516
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Speaker 1: but that hit to me, by the letter of the law,

517
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: it was a foul, right. You think about in that

518
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 1: playoff game whenever it was when I think Kimmel von

519
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: Olhoffen went, oh yeah, it went to Carson Palmer. I

520
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: will never forget that hit because it was so it

521
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: looked terrible. But that was you know when black, when

522
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: Palmer was with the Bengals and they're playing the Steelers

523
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Speaker 1: in that playoff game. That's the kind of hit that

524
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: Cam Newton suffered, right. You think about the hit Tom

525
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: Brady had against whatever team that was. I think it

526
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: was the Chiefs, right, it was that No. Eight, Am,

527
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Speaker 1: I am. I totally right on this. I just keep

528
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: nodding your head and saying, yesterday, I was trying to

529
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Speaker 1: I was trying to think what was going on in

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Speaker 1: O eight. Like to me, that still feels like, oh yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago. Back in the wait,

532
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we almost a decade ago. Yeah, I know, yeah,

533
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: I was really young back then. That wasn't even the

534
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Speaker 1: worst call in that Arizona Carolina game. By the way,

535
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Speaker 1: speaking of Palmer, Yeah, that little shuttle pass that yeah,

536
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: that was returned as a quote unquote fumble for a touchdown.

537
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: What was that? I don't know. And they went and

538
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: reviewed that and then yeah, every turnover, every scoring place

539
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: supposed to be reviewed in the NFL. Yeah, and that

540
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: one doesn't get corrected on the opening offensive drive for Arizona.

541
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Speaker 1: That's a huge play. And you know what's funny is

542
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: that Ron Rivera on the conference called Today's I asked

543
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: him about getting those eight sacks and what was key

544
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: to doing that and keeping that pressure on Palmer and

545
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: he said, well, we started fast and we got off

546
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: to an early lead, right, and so once that happens,

547
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: obviously defenses get to pin their ears back and that's

548
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: why you get eight sacks on Carson Palmer. But that

549
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: particular sack fumble maybe it should not have been right.

550
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: It should have been and the two pieces of their secondary,

551
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: imagine played a role in getting more pressure Carson Palmer

552
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: as well a little bit better coverage. And the passing

553
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: game gives someone like Starlotulalay, who I've known as a

554
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: standout ever since his days as Utah, a chance to

555
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: be NFC Defensive Player of the Week with three three

556
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: of those eight sacks, if I'm not mistake. Yes, yes, yes,

557
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: So he played really, really well, and I think that's

558
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: going to be one of the concerns about the Rams

559
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: this week, just the way that their interior guys are playing.

560
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Anytime you have an interior player that gets three sacks,

561
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: that's concerned, right. And you know, they also had Leonard

562
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: Johnson who based basically he had an achilles injury in

563
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: the offseason. It was the first game that he was

564
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: back playing on Sunday against the Cardinals, and they blitzed

565
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: him all the time. So that's also going to be

566
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: a concern for the Rams, coming off of the edge

567
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: with your nickel corner, if he's getting if he's coming

568
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: in there and blitzing. And I noticed they're blitzing on

569
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: first down, they were blitzing on second down, third done,

570
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. That is tough for any offense to

571
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Speaker 1: deal with, especially if you're getting blitzed on first down.

572
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how you kind of evaluate running defenses too,

573
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: but if the alternative is well, maybe you can ground

574
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Speaker 1: and pound against him. Carolina has one of the best

575
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: running defenses in the league. I think it's just three

576
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: point three yards per carry against so let's hope the

577
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Rams put this bye week to really good use, because

578
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: we haven't seen a total team effort, four quarter effort

579
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: from this LA team. Yet we know it's still out there.

580
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: Every team in the NFL puts together a couple great weeks,

581
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: and so I think that's one of the reasons for

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00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: optimism for the Rams is, you know, offensive, defensive, special teams,

583
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: they have not all clicked at once yet this season.

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00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: Maybe Sundays that day, I think it might be And

585
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: you know what, if it does, then that's going to

586
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: spell really good news. And if it does, then I

587
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: think the other part of the offense that's gonna get

588
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: going is Todd Gurley, because obviously, you know, he's not

589
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: had the kind of season that I think a lot

590
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: of people were expecting. And I think there are a

591
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of factors for that. It's not just the offensive line.

592
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: It's not just Todd Gurley. It's not just the fact

593
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: that teams are loading up the box in order to

594
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: stop the Rams running game because they respect it so much.

595
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 1: You've just got to be able to put it all together.

596
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: And you hope that this week is the week that

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00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: that might happen. From his standpoint, I loved how vocal

598
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: and descriptive he was in the postgame locker room in London.

599
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: Oh me too. Yeah, I thought that was real words

600
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: of leadership there, and he wasn't saying give me the

601
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: damn ball, but it felt like he was going to

602
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: come back after the bye week, like here's what it is.

603
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: That being said, I'm not sure that Caroline is the

604
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: team that you want to try and break out against

605
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: because what they have at linebacker with Keithley and Davis,

606
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: what they have on the defensive front makes them really

607
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: difficult to run the ball against. They had been susceptible

608
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: to the deep pass. They were giving up twenty plus

609
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: yard bombs week in and week out when they're on

610
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: that losing streak. They shored that up last week. So

611
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: finding a way to stretch the secondary and create you know,

612
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: second level opportunities for Todd is a tall order. But again,

613
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Speaker 1: that's what the bye week is for. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: that that's the challenge that Rob Borris and company embrace. Yeah,

615
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: and you know what, I think what he said after

616
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: the game was really really interesting and I'm glad you

617
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: brought that up as I sort of try to find

618
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: it right now, take your time. I think it's worth

619
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Speaker 1: revisiting because Todd has been a man of few words.

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00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: He's been pretty understated to this point since arriving in

621
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Yeah, and as I have found it now.

622
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, somebody said to him, you know, what do

623
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: you think has been leading to the inconsistencies on offense?

624
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: And he just says, I think, man, everybody needs to

625
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: whether it's players or coaches, basically ask themselves, are you

626
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: helping or are you hurting the team? It's as simple

627
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: as that. You know, you can't have mental mistakes everybody.

628
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: You just have to play better. And then you know,

629
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: somebody ask the follow up, well do you feel like

630
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: you're helping you're hurting a little bit of both, and

631
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: he says, you know, some games I'm hurting myself. Some

632
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: games I feel like I'm doing as much as I can,

633
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's definitely not effort because everybody

634
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: we love this game and we want to win, but

635
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: we just have to do the little things, the simple things.

636
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: And then this is what I thought he said that

637
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: was really really interesting. So we practice football is the

638
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: only sport you have where you basically practice every day

639
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: now you practice every day. You play one game week

640
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and you practice every day, so when the game comes,

641
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: it should be second nature. And I think what he's

642
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: referring to there is sort of those mental mistakes that

643
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: keep happening, those those killer penalties, these things that you

644
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: cannot have happen. You have to have the game becomes

645
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: second nature to you because you practice so much. And

646
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: you know, Todd Gurley, he's a second year player, right

647
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: He's very young. I think he's twenty two twenty three

648
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: years old right now. So for him to have I

649
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: think the maturity that he clearly has by stating these things.

650
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: And he's not he's not pointing fingers. No, he's not,

651
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, discluding himself from everything that's going on. He's saying,

652
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, we need to look inward and we need

653
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: to be able to make sure that we are playing

654
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: better as a group. And I thought that was very

655
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: mature and really captain like from somebody who is a

656
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: second year captain in the school. And unless that be

657
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: construed as well, he must be talking about that quarterback

658
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: who just threw four interceptions and pointing a finger that direction. No,

659
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: quite the contrary, he repeated on multiple occasions. I love Case, yeah,

660
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: and has full confidence in Case. But those mental mistakes,

661
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: even if it's a pre snap penalty like a false start,

662
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: that's something that takes away an opportunity from something like

663
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, because if you're in second and four and

664
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden at second and nine, that's a

665
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: running situation that he doesn't get a chance to hit

666
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: that hole, and maybe your offensive line doesn't some tractions,

667
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: so it all is cumulative. And I think you're right,

668
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: he's got kind of like the thirty thousand foot view

669
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: of the whole thing. Yeah, And that's kind of that's

670
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: interesting to me, like not just for somebody who's the

671
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: second year player, but also somebody who's a running back,

672
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, because I we all talk about how, oh,

673
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, the running back position hasn't been devalued at

674
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: all these different things. But Todd Gurley, because of his

675
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: talent but also because of his maturity, is a real

676
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: leader on this team and on this offense in particular.

677
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: And to me, the fact that he said that I

678
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: thought spoke real volumes about the way he sees himself

679
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: in this league and on this team. I thought it

680
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: was really interesting to my experience so far that leadership

681
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily been verbal. Yes, not to this extent. Sure, Yeah,

682
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: so that was this was a different step for him,

683
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: And I was intrigued by yeah, and you know, having

684
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with Todd in yeah, interview situations basically

685
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: every week, Right, Todd Gurley's got to media session every week.

686
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: He's not always the most open, open player. And then

687
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: you know, you get tweets it's like why does Todd

688
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: always look so mad? Like why is he why why

689
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: doesn't he look like he's happy? Like, well, first of all,

690
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: he's talking to the media, so, like I as much

691
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: as I think, like, all right, you know, you are

692
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: a professional athlete, is kind of part of your job

693
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: to like just give me five minutes of your time

694
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: each week, Like, und I understand why a player would

695
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: feel like this really does not help me win? Right,

696
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: I get that. But there's a part to Todd Gurley

697
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: that I don't think people will necessarily see in public,

698
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: and that is the the locker room persona, the teammate

699
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: persona of Todd Gurley. And I thought that came out

700
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: in those comments, So I thought that was good, you

701
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: nailed it. Okay, Wow, I nailed it. Yeay. Um, Well,

702
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: let's let's talk a little bit about the trip that

703
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: we took, you know, because we were in London for

704
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: a really long time, and you know, we talked a

705
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: lot of football. There's only so much football you can

706
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: hash and rehash over over, you know, the bye week

707
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: and they didn't even play lest week. So what was

708
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: your favorite aspect of getting to go to London. I

709
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: don't know how many different steam rooms there were at

710
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: our at our resort. Thank you to the Los Angeles

711
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Rams for allowing us access to it, but I did

712
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: use all of them that I was given access to.

713
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: That was my favorite part. No, Look, as much as

714
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: I love my wife and baby, I have not had

715
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: much time to myself in the last six months, so

716
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: that was that was a week on the road. Would

717
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: just kind of a little a little daddy alone time

718
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: and I got to regroup and and do my game

719
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: prep and and really enjoy life in a British countryside resort,

720
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: which is a really unique experience. We did get into town,

721
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: you probably more so than I. So I'll turn it

722
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: back to you for your impression zone of the inner city.

723
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: If you like this spa was this like the best.

724
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen anything

725
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: like it, honest. Okay, because Danny Danny Clappinger rams reporter

726
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: who I assume if you're list into this podcast, you

727
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: know who she is. But she basically said the same

728
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: exact thing me about how awesome the SPA was, And

729
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: I now feel like an idiot for not doing it,

730
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, like double confirmation, right, Like I'm a reporter,

731
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: That's what I always need. So now that I have

732
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: the second source, I feel stupid. I mean, I almost

733
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: feel like you're disqualified from even speaking about our London

734
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: experience now if you don't if you don't have depth

735
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: in the twenty five meter marble encased pool, indoor hot tub,

736
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: indoor and outdoor hot tub, like swim indoor out into

737
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: the outdoor portion of the hot tub, why didn't I?

738
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: There was a dry sauna, there were there were steam

739
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: rooms that were gender specific, there were steam rooms that

740
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: were mixed gender. There were steam rooms of varying temperature,

741
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: a varying scent, a very aromatherapy. So yeah, my routine

742
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: was to use the spot at least once per day

743
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: while interspersing some football coverage. Gosh, well, if you know me,

744
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: you probably would understand that I probably should have done

745
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: that because people say I need to relax orris on

746
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: a massage as well, which was the best hour of

747
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: my week. Yeah that you know what. DeMarco said that

748
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: to me too. So yeah, apparently I failed because I

749
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: did not do any of these nice things when I

750
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: was at the resort. When the international series strikes again,

751
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: you'll be better prepared this. But you I saw from

752
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: your walk, from going out with you, but also from

753
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: some of the pictures that you took that you had

754
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: a great cultural experience in greater lunch, I thought. So,

755
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: you know, we went to Stonehenge. If you've checked out

756
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 1: the video on the rams dot com, Bradley Marquez, Johnny Hecker,

757
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: Chase Reynolds, they were at Stonehenge while I was there too,

758
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: sort of working, but also you know, for my own

759
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: pleasure because that place was so cool, Like honestly, it

760
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: is one of the coolest places I've ever been in

761
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: my life. And I think one of the things you

762
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: know that we think over here in I mean in

763
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: the US about Stonehenges that like was just a bunch

764
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: of rocks, Like why are all these rocks in this

765
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: like this just a bunch of random and like somebody

766
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: put them there and it's aliens and we don't know

767
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: what it is, but you know, when you go there,

768
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: you learn that it's actually a monument and it's very meaningful.

769
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: It probably was very meaningful for the indigenous peoples who

770
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: lived there, you know, twenty five hundred to three thousand BC, right,

771
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: like that's when this thing was constructed, and they had

772
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: roads that went to the river, and that's how they

773
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: probably got the stones from the river up there to

774
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: the monument. And now you see this monument and it's

775
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: been there for you know, four thousand ish years, right,

776
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: forty four thousand, forty five hundred, five thousand years almost,

777
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: and it's still there and you can still see how

778
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: the grooves of certain rocks were were placed so that

779
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: the things would stay there, and they just they don't

780
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: mess with it. They don't they don't let you get

781
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: any very close to it, and it just is there

782
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: and it's really cool. And I don't know that I

783
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: really did a very good description of like how cool

784
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: it is. I'm just I'm saying I'm confused because I

785
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: feel like you just talked about stonehein for three minutes

786
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: and didn't mention any alien influence because there was no

787
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: alien influence. What are you talking about, It's an alien monument.

788
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Well that's what people like to think, you stupid American.

789
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but like it was funny because, um,

790
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: what they said was that it was kind of uh

791
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: they probably they What they think is that the people

792
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: went to this monument to either celebrate the solstice or

793
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: commemorate the solstice or things like that, and they would

794
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: bring the remains of their like human family members ostensibly right,

795
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: who knows what they thought they were back then. Um,

796
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: but they would bring those those family members and they

797
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: would like bury their ashes in like in and around

798
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: the monument. And so like that's where you have stone

799
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: is you know, when the sun comes down and it

800
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: comes right into the the in between the stones and

801
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: things like that. It's very very fascinating and very interesting,

802
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: and I wish I could doesn't change the fact that

803
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: they still needed alien tractor beams to drag the stones

804
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,959
Speaker 1: up from the river in the first place. How about

805
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: the castle? The castle? The castle was cool. I liked

806
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Windsor Castle. You and I went there together, and I

807
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: thought that Windsor Castle was really interesting just because you

808
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: have all of these different rooms where some like like

809
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: royalty lived there and like, you know, this is a

810
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: place that is older than our country. So that to

811
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: me whenever I go other places and you know, you

812
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: have these places where it's like, yeah, this was built

813
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: in like twelve hundred eighty or you know, whenever it

814
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: was like you should so like oh like mind blown,

815
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: like we're start until seventeen seventy six, like what So. Yeah,

816
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: I thought the Windsor Castle was cool too, And the

817
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: stadium experience on Sunday was more than I expected. It

818
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: really was. From the moment we pulled up in the

819
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: buses and there were just mobs of people Oh yeah,

820
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: way out to see the Giants and the rams Um.

821
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: I thought the field was in great condition for football.

822
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: It seemed. I don't think like moisture slipping played a

823
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: factor in the game, not for the players. If you

824
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 1: had an NFL Jersey bingo card oh thirty two teams deep,

825
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: you could have punched that thing out before kickoff, no question.

826
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: Red Jersey imaginable was accounted for stadium on something it's

827
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: very interesting, including a Maurice Jones Drew special. Did you

828
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: really see Joe? That's awesome? Did like did more? Did

829
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: Mojo also see it? Did you take a picture with

830
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: the Nate Baine actually took a picture of it and

831
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: taxed it to me right before kickoffs, so I got

832
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: to show it to Maurice. Oh, that one's in our

833
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: broadcast position. Yeah, I mean the only thing and this

834
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: is this is a real first world problem, and like

835
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,479
Speaker 1: vintage reporters only complain about things. But I was really

836
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: cold because we were outside and I fortunately had bought

837
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: a beanie and I had bought some gloves, but I

838
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: was really cold, and like I didn't get the glove

839
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: I thought I had, but I didn't get the gloves

840
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: with like the touch sensors on your you know, on

841
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: your fingers. So I'm like trying to mess with my

842
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: laptop and I have to keep taking my glove off

843
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: in order to, you know, send a tweet, and like

844
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, type up what I'm doing and like

845
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: post the article, find a picture. All these things I

846
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: do on game day, and it was it was a

847
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: little bit inconvenient, but I can just feel the audience

848
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: empathizing with you. I know, people are probably flipping me

849
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: off in their cars, and I probably deserve it. But yeah,

850
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: that was If there was one thing that I would

851
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: have liked, it would it would have been a little

852
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: heater next to me, a little personal heater that I

853
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: could warm up with a little bit more. I don't know.

854
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: All things considered, it wasn't raining. Yes, that was one

855
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: of the great things about the week. Yeah, despite you know,

856
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't go outside very much since you were

857
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Speaker 1: always in the spot, but it didn't really rain when

858
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Speaker 1: we were there. One practice that I recall, just a

859
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: brief showered in practice. But all in all a great experience.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it'd feel much better be four and three rather

861
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: than three and four. But you know, speaking for ourselves

862
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: as peripheral staff and traveling with the RAMS, great experience,

863
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. And it was it

864
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: was really nice to just go to London and be

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Speaker 1: able to see all the things that we saw. I mean,

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00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: like getting I'd been to London once before when I

867
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Speaker 1: was like ten or eleven or something like that, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you do all these different things. You see

869
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: the Eye, you see Big Ben, you go to Buckingham

870
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: Palace and all that. But I think my impression when

871
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: I was in Piccadilly Circus was like, Wow, this is

872
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: like a mix between Times Square in San Francisco and

873
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: it just even though you were in a foreign country

874
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of ways, it feels very familiar because

875
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: it's just a big city and you know, with different

876
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: money and people with different accents. But I really enjoyed it.

877
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: Do you want to go back to my unofficial little

878
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: Twitter poll about London and having teams there? I think

879
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: it would take two. I agree with you build a

880
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: stadium for two teams so that you always have a

881
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: home game in that stadium and there for a nine

882
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: thirty am Eastern six thirty am Pacific kickoff. Yes, would

883
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: you as a fan wake up to watch that? Additional?

884
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 1: What would that make it a fourth window? Would you

885
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: add that into your NFL Sunday viewing experience more like

886
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: the college football Saturday where you have the new eastern kickoff.

887
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, I see being on the West Coast,

888
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: it's tough, right because this is and usually I probably

889
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to watch it anyway, but at least

890
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: on this week, you know, with the bye week, I

891
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: was able to get up it probably six I woke

892
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: up probably around six forty five and started watching the

893
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: Bengals in Washington. And I don't know that I would

894
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: really want to do that every week on a Sunday. Yeah,

895
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: that's hard at least for me as a as a

896
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: fan of the league and as a fan of the game.

897
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: I like to watch as much NFL as I possibly can.

898
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: But being on the West Coast like fans obviously, I

899
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, have a lot of appreciation for fans anyway,

900
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: but those who got up at six thirty am to

901
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: watch that Rams game against the Giants, like props to you,

902
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: because that's not easy to do always on satur on

903
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: Sunday mornings. Yeah. The thing about the NFL and London

904
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: to me is going to a Place sixty event with

905
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: some local British children that I was reminded of the

906
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,919
Speaker 1: fact that the game is so foreign to them from

907
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: just a flag football, backyard scrimmage tackle concept. It's tough

908
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: to make a sports stick when your audience doesn't play

909
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: it informally. I think that's a large part of I

910
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: wish I could attribute this point to someone else who

911
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: raised it to me. The explosion of soccer in the

912
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Speaker 1: United States in our current generation is well, you and

913
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: I and so many in our generation grip playing aiso soccer. Right,

914
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: So even if we didn't become soccer starts or soccer

915
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: players or even soccer fans, at least some more of

916
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: us were exposed to soccer and all the rules of

917
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: soccer and get it. It would be tough to, I think,

918
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: to break into that audience, that market, that fan base

919
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: when what's a line of scrimmage like one Mississippi to

920
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: mississ what like, you know, like like those just kind

921
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: of that childhood experience is not built in. There's no

922
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: let's to get together with with friends and throw the

923
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: football around, right, and you know that that comes through

924
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: even when you know they're playing the game and on

925
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: the scoreboard JumboTron like after a penalty or whatever, they

926
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: put up what the penalty is and then they explain it,

927
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: and that basically I still benefit from that. So I

928
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: would like to see you got to get in the

929
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: rule book, JB. You know all these rules, but it's

930
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: funny you brought up like you know what a catches?

931
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Come on, seriously, but you brought up soccer and we

932
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: got to go to the arsenal game too. I almost

933
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: forgot like that was really cool experiences too. Yeah, just

934
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Speaker 1: because I like, Okay, you said like we grew up playing,

935
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Speaker 1: so I did not grow up like with the soccer

936
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Speaker 1: stuff like I'm not a soccer No orange slices and

937
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: Caprice sons on Miles Saturday morning for t ball, all right,

938
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Speaker 1: but not for soccer. But there's some I get some

939
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: enjoyment out of it, Like when I'm watching the US play.

940
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: I'll watch the US play any showing like we can

941
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: be in another country in Tidley winks, and I will

942
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: be super stoked about it. But going to see that

943
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: particular game, I had a really good time just because

944
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: it was it was an experience to watch these fans

945
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: have their chants, have their cheers for basically every little

946
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: moment in the game. And I think Arsenal scored what

947
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: five six goals, beat the breaks off whatever team they

948
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: were playing, So that was really cool to see. I

949
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: think I would add to the patriotism aspect, like I'll

950
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: watch anything that America is participating in. I'd also watch

951
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: anything that's being performed at its highest level. Yes, right,

952
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Like it's so distinguishable when you're watching you know whether

953
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: you've watched your kid chase it around four corners of

954
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: a park for a Saturday morning, or whether you play

955
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: rec league soccer. When you see something in person, I've

956
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: always said this is why a hockey is so appealing

957
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: in person too. When you see like playoff NHL hockey

958
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: in person, Man, there's nothing like that. Yeah, Like, it

959
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: just jumps off the page at you. Like what I'm

960
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: seeing right now. No one in the world does better. Yeah.

961
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: That to me as a spectator, sport always works. Yeah,

962
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Speaker 1: I agree. All right, Well let's wrap this up, Jabie,

963
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me this week. Always

964
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: appreciate Sorry for anyone who's disappointed to Marco's not here.

965
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: I am a very inadequate fill in for Defar in

966
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: many respects, but I love him just as much as

967
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: you do. So thanks for having me back. No my pleasure.

968
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you were able to stop in and

969
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: help me out with this thing. And you know, fans

970
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: always appreciate any positive negative feedback that you might want

971
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: to pass along about the show. Definitely, thanks for tuning in,

972
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Speaker 1: Thanks for finding us wherever you found us, either on iTunes, SoundCloud,

973
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Speaker 1: or wherever you download your podcast. Be sure to stay

974
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Speaker 1: tuned to the Rams dot com is We've got coverage

975
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: leading up to this game against Carolina. We will see

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Speaker 1: you for between the Horns and next Wednesday,